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frostfires-blog · 2 months ago

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Hello, TGCF lover! I found you from your post of 4 Famoys Tales & 4 Calamities. Do you mind if I send you MXTX Ask Game? Oh yeah, have you read SVSSS, too?

Now, because you love Naruto, Gintama, and Attack On Titan (your top 3 anime from your profile), can I ask your opinions on these ships : Naruto/Sasuke & Hashirama/Madara , Levi/Erwin & Eren/Armin, and Gintoki/Takasugi & Gintoki/Hijikata? Sorry, if you don't ship them, I don't mean anything negative, just want to know your thoughts on them because I love your writings....🤩💐

Oh, do you also ship Ochako/Toga (from BNHA) or Gojo/Geto (from JJK)? Why (if you ship them or not ship them)?

Hey! Apologies for the delay... Thanks for sending me an ask!🪷 Sure, I don't mind at all. In fact, I'd love an excuse to talk about MXTX's works!💫 I have read SVSSS too, but I haven't watched the donghua past the first 2 episodes—since I really couldn't stand the art style/3D CGI. I have very complicated thoughts about SVSSS though, which is why I don't talk about it much here—even though I read SVSSS fics all the time.

Before I start sharing my thoughts on the ships listed, I'd like to clarify that this is solely my opinion, and I have no intention of insulting anyone for their preferences. Although I'd like to think that I have broad, flexible tastes when it comes to ships—I am actually quite finicky. Oftentimes I'll ship one pairing but not another, despite their comparable dynamics and tropes.

❉ Naruto/Sasuke

Naruto was my very first anime, and at the time I had absolutely no concept of BL and M/M pairings since I was new to fandom, fanfiction, and shipping culture in general. So at the time I naturally mostly gravitated towards the canonical and M/F pairings in the show. Retrospectively, I can definitely see why people ship them since they have so much development and symbolism supporting them. However, somehow I still can't bring myself to say I outright ship them since I never got into the pairing as I was watching the series. If I had to describe it more coherently, then I'd say that I feel like that ship has sailed for me—and I can no longer really see them as anything other than a platonic duo. If I were to watch the show for the first time right now, I'd definitely ship them—which is why I greatly respect the pairing. They are one of my favourite anime duos, though. I don't know if that made any sense. Sorry if I came across as hypocritical.

❉ Hashirama/Madara

Everything I said about Naruto and Sasuke applies here too—albeit to a lesser extent since I'm not the biggest fan of Madara and Hashirama individually as characters. I don't dislike them, but there are so many characters in the series I like more.

❉ Levi/Erwin

To be honest, I don't ship them. Is it because I fangirl over Levi? Probably. Is it because I disliked Erwin's character until relatively recently? Also probably.

❉ Eren/Armin

As an EreMika shipper, I don't ship Eren and Armin together. People will criticise me for this, but I've grown to detest Armin since the middle of Season 4. I wasn't always an avid supporter of EreMika, but they've really grown on me. Even so, I never perceived Eren and Armin's dynamic as anything more than platonic.

❉ Gintoki/Takasugi

I do ship Gintoki and Takasugi together! GinTaka/TakaGin is probably my second favourite ship for Gintoki. They narrowly missed the cut-off for my top 30 favourite ships post-series. I only started shipping them towards the end of Gintama and have grown to like them even more after the final movie... That cherry blossom boat scene was everything! I wish we could've gotten more of them in the series—since I've always enjoyed their interactions, even before I shipped them. Although they initially appear to be diametrically opposed due to their conflicting ideologies—nevertheless, I firmly believe they embody the birds-of-a-feather trope well. In addition to having similar demeanours, they are both haunted by the guilt of losing their sensei. For a long time after the Joui War, Gintoki was the object of Takasugi's hatred—but he was also the life force Takasugi relied on to continue existing. However, it is later revealed that Takasugi was merely projecting his self-hatred onto Gintoki. Although their dynamic has undergone a significant transformation over time—resulting in a relationship that is both complex and robust—they have both played an integral part in each other's lives. On a less serious note, Gintoki is such a shippable character lol. I fear in my mind, he has a thing for smokers.

❉ Gintoki/Hijikata

Although I have a much stronger preference for GinTsu and GinTaka, I also like GinHiji. Their antics are always hilarious to see unfold, and their banter is enjoyable. Like GinTsu and GinTaka, their great chemistry stems from their numerous similarities as well as their differences. Although GinHiji receives a fair amount of growth during the series, I believe that, overall, GinTaka has greater development while GinTsu has a stronger basis founded on their similar backstories and matching symbolism.

❉ Toga/Ochako

I don't mind Toga/Ochako, but I wouldn't go so far as to say I ship it either. Initially, I didn't quite understand why people shipped them until I watched EP158. I understand the hype now but am not invested enough in either character for me to ship it. For me to ship a pairing—aside from their dynamic and development—I need to have an interest in both characters individually. Any support I show towards the ship will always be motivated by my desire to eliminate Uraraka as a potential love interest for Izuku—which is why I can't commit to saying I ship it with pure intentions. That being said, I still think they have more compelling development than IzuOcha/UraDeku.

❉ Satoru/Suguru

A lot of people have a lot to say about me not shipping these two when I like FushiIta/ItaFushi and Shiguang (from Link Click), especially given the multiple parallels between these ships. As for why I don't ship them, I really don't know. I respect the ship and see where people are coming from, given the abundance of symbolism and tropes associated with them. However, I still can't quite commit to shipping them. If I had to come up with a justification, I'd probably blame the series' structure, as watching JJK 0 before the Hidden Inventory Arc made me more reluctant to become attached to them as a pairing. I find it difficult to become invested in a pairing that I know is doomed before I've had an opportunity to form an attachment—so far, only two ships have broken this mould for me. It's somewhat hypocritical of me, I'll admit, because virtually any M/M ship in a shounen anime is practically guaranteed to remain non-canon. Nevertheless, they are among my favourite platonic duos in the series, as I really enjoy their chemistry with one another—specifically during the Hidden Inventory Arc. In my opinion, Fushiguro and Itadori prevailed because they were honest and communicated with one another—which was something Gojo and Geto failed to do, and that ultimately caused their downfall.

I hope I didn't miss anything. Also, I tend to write with less formality in asks than in my analysis posts. I know you said that you liked my writing style, so I hope my more relaxed tone here wasn't disappointing. I'd also like to reiterate that these were merely my opinions, and I had no intention of offending anyone.😅

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frostfires-blog · 14 days ago

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Hi, Bleach fan! Just saw your IchiRuki post and I love it! You can't imagine how excited I am to found IchiRuki shipper in 2024!

So, what do you think are Ichigo and Rukia's greatest personality strengths and weaknesses? Why? What do you love about their dynamic? What are your favorite (canon) IchiRuki moments? What are your favorite headcanons of them?

Do you have any fav ships (from any fandom) that the dyanamic remind you of IchiRuki?

Thanks if you want to answer

Hi, sorry for the wait! I'm just as excited to see another IchiRuki shipper! I swear ever since TYBW came out, we've been heavily persecuted... So it's nice to be asked about IchiRuki in a positive context rather than a negative one. Just an obligatory disclaimer before I start: Although I have been spoilt for the series ending, I have not officially read the manga. I know that rival shippers are going to use this against me... But I needed to clarify that in case I slightly misremember something. However, I doubt I will since I won't really be speaking about anything beyond where the anime left off.

[My answers are under the cut because I rambled too much again sorry ❀]

-> Ichigo & Rukia's greatest strengths: ⦁ Their strong natural chemistry: They just have a genuine and instantaneous emotional connection that elicits a sense of familiarity and warmth. ⦁ Conversely, they fit into both the "birds of a feather" and "opposites attract" tropes. This implies that, despite their differences, they share a few commonalities—which is what accounts for their strong connection. ⦁ They have both positively impacted one another, consistently uplifting and motivating one another and bringing each other back from their lowest points. Most notably, Rukia is a source of strength, motivation, and light for Ichigo. In the same way that Ichigo is a driving force in Rukia's life, serving as a source of courage and resolve. ⦁ As a result of their similar experiences and struggles—especially with self-doubt and loss—they possess a unique understanding of one another that no one else possesses. Consequently, they are able to instinctively support one another in overcoming these challenges and progress towards bettering themselves.

-> Ichigo & Rukia's greatest weaknesses: ⦁ The significant disparity in their lives, circumstances, and careers could stand in the way of their relationship—though with some concessions, this is not immutable. ⦁ They elicit each other's stubbornness and strong willedness, which often results in bickering. While I find this endearing, I know this is a source of contention for many fans. ⦁ Towards the end of the series—in particular during the TYBW arc—they don't get as much screentime together.

-> What I love about their dynamic: ⦁ Simply speaking, they are a perfect amalgamation of my favourite tropes and symbolism. ⦁ Their perfectly counterbalanced designs and symbolism seamlessly integrate into their respective roles in the series, not only enhancing their dynamic but also conveying the notion of being fated or destined soulmates. ⦁ Their mutually important roles in the series, along with their profound trust and respect for one another, foster a sense of equality and balance seldomly seen in shounen F/M pairings. ⦁ Throughout the series, their most significant moments are consistently paralleled and inverted. This not only enables both of them to mutually support and uplift one another but also further reinforces their dynamic as a cornerstone of the series.

-> My favourite canon IchiRuki moments: There are honestly so many, as I love all of the interactions, but if I had to limit myself to a top four, then it would be as follows:

4) When Rukia transfers her powers to Ichigo for the first time (Episode 1) - This has to be one of the most iconic IchiRuki scenes considering this is the moment where it all began.

3) Ichigo saves Rukia from her execution - Another obvious choice. What makes this moment appealing to me is that Ichigo enables Rukia to finally be upfront about her feelings and reinvigorates her desire to exist. This allows this scene to transcend the typical hero saves the girl premise.

2) Rukia and Ichigo reuniting during the Fullbring arc - This scene brought me to tears with its masterful parallels of both of the previous entries on my list here by having Rukia show up to support and guide Ichigo once more. I adore the manner in which Rukia can uplift him and encourage him with only a few words and her presence.

1) Ichigo thanking and saying farewell to Rukia after losing his powers - Some might find it ironic that this scene tops my list, but my reasoning goes beyond my fondness for angst. In my opinion, this scene—as well as its aftermath—cements how deeply Ichigo and Rukia care for one another. In the anime, the compelling voice acting as well as the soft colours and fluid animation deepen my love for this scene. Conversely, the manga's fluid panelling and delicate expressions are remiscent of that in shoujo manga.

P.S. I would've highlighted some scenes from the 3rd Bleach Movie: Fade To Black—but since its still debated whether the movies are canonical, I opted not to.

-> My favourite IchiRuki headcanons:

I'm more of a trope, motif, and symbolism analysis person—so I've never really given any thought to headcanons... To be honest, I don't think I fully know what counts as a headcanon. I love seeing people use Sun×Moon, Day×Night, Ying×Yang, and Fire×Ice symbolism for IchiRuki. Also, this is much less common, but I also like seeing fan artists use Forget-Me-Not flowers for IchiRuki—that's totally their flower. I don't know if those count as headcanons...So I'd love for you guys to share your favourite headcanons in the comments...

-> Ships that remind me about IchiRuki:

To be honest, this is a tricky question to answer... Everyone is drawn to ships for different reasons... Every ship is different, and every series is different... So it goes without saying that just because you ship a pairing in one series doesn't mean you'll ship a similar ship in another show. People always get offended when someone always gets offended when comparisons are drawn between ships—especially those from different series. Having said that, I tried my best; so, please don't criticise me too harshly I'd love to hear about any other ships that remind you guys of IchiRuki since I'm sure I might have missed a couple of good options...

1) ChiKawa / Chika Kudo × Satowa Hozuki (Kono Oto Tomare!) — > Similar personalities/dynamics: ⦁ Just like Ichigo, Chika is a devoted and caring friend who can be a bit straightforward, impulsive, and short-tempered at times. ⦁ Just like Rukia, Satowa is graceful, determined, and stubborn. Satowa, like Rukia, has difficulty opening up to others and is adept at putting on a damsel in distress act to get her way in troublesome situations. ⦁ Both pairs initially get off on the wrong foot and often bicker because of their stubbornness, but ultimately come to respect, trust and care for one another. > Common tropes: ⦁ Both pairs share the "belligerent tension", "birds of a feather", "can't live with them, can't live without them", "everyone can see it", and "slow burn" tropes. > Similar backgrounds: ⦁ Before the start of the series, Chika often got into fights and had a "deliquent" image, which is somewhat reminiscent of Ichigo's backstory. ⦁ Satowa, like Rukia, is apart of a presigious family and faced immense pressure, which resulted in her becoming isolated and aloof. > Similar in appearance: ⦁ Both pairs have a guy with bright, light-coloured hair and brown eyes. Both pairs have a girl with straight, black hair with bangs.

2) Takumi Usui × Misaki Ayuzawa (Kaichou wa Maid-sama!) — > Similar personalities/dynamics: ⦁ Usui, like Ichigo, is confident, reliable, talented, and protective. ⦁ Misaki, like Rukia, is intelligent, diligent, and determined. Both characters struggle with being honest with themselves (and others) about their feelings and wants. ⦁ Usui enjoys teasing Misaki, similarly to how Rukia oftentimes teases Ichigo. ⦁ Both pairs initially get off on the wrong foot and often bicker because of their stubbornness, but ultimately come to respect, trust, and care for one another. > Similar backgrounds: ⦁ Usui, like Rukia, is partially a member of a prestigious family and is now isolated and somewhat aloof as a result of his upbringing. ⦁ Misaki, like Ichigo, cares greatly for her family and younger sibling and works hard to protect her. > Common tropes: ⦁ Both pairs share the "belligerent tension", "birds of a feather", "can't live with them, can't live without them", "declaration of protection", "everyone can see it", "like an old married couple" and "slow burn" tropes. > Similar in appearance: ⦁ Both pairs have a guy with light and bright-coloured spikey hair. Both pairs have a girl with straight, black, shoulder-length hair with bangs.

3) ItaFushi / Yuji Itadori × Megumi Fushiguro (Jujutsu Kaisen) — > Similar personalities/dynamics: ⦁ Both pairs have matching MBTI results. With Ichigo and Yuji falling under ISFP while Rukia and Megumi fall under ISTJ. ⦁ Yuji, like Ichigo, values protecting others—especially his friends—and is equally hard-working, determined, passionate, and impulsive. ⦁ Megumi, like Rukia, is intelligent, serious, blunt, diligent, and talented. He is equally as aloof, stubborn and short-tempered. ⦁ Both pairs have complementary personalities and fight well alongside their respective partner. Both pairs are very intuitive of their partner's needs and get along well—despite occasional teasing and bickering. > Similar Backgrounds: ⦁ Like Rukia, Megumi has a complex relationship with his older, adoptive sibling. Megumi and Rukia are both apart of prestigious clans that are involved with eliminating supernatural creatures. ⦁ Like Ichigo, Yuji has a mysterious family background with some of his family members being somewhat connected to one of the series' main villians. Both characters possess latent, inherent abilities as a result of their heritage. Both characters battle with literal "inner-demons". > Similar circumstances/roles in the series: ⦁ Both pairs consist of the protagonist and deuteragonist of their respective series. ⦁ Both Ichigo and Yuji were living relatively ordinary lives until they ran into their respective deuteragonist and had to awaken supernatural abilities to save themselves and the latter from a supernatural creature. ⦁ Both Rukia and Megumi have disobeyed orders/rules in order to protect their respective protagonist. ⦁ Both Ichigo and Yuji risked being executed as a result of the powers they awakened but were saved by their respective deuteragonist. ⦁ Conversely, at different points in their respective series, both Rukia and Megumi had lost their will to live and were then saved by their respective protagonist. > Common tropes: ⦁ Both pairs share the "battle couple", "can't live with them, can't live without them", "declaration of protection", "everyone can see it", "fan-preferred couple", "friends to lovers", "I owe you my life", "rescue romance", "star-crossed lovers", "slow burn", "sun × moon" and "you are better than you think you are" tropes.

4) GinTsu / Gintoki Sakata × Tsukuyo (Gintama) — > Similar personalities/dynamics: ⦁ Gintoki, like Ichigo, is very strong-willed, stubborn, short-tempered and impulsive. Conversely, behind their cool and detached image, both characters are very charismatic, compassionate, reliable and empathetic. ⦁ In terms of MBTI results, Rukia and Tsukuyo both fall under ISTJ. Like Rukia, Tsukuyo initially believed in placing duty above her personal feelings and struggled with emotional transparency and self-worth. Both characters are very responsible, diligent, determined and blunt. ⦁ Both pairs have complementary personalities and fight well alongside their respective partner. Both pairs are very intuitive of their partner's needs and get along well. ⦁ Although both pairs often bicker and tease each other, this does not detract from their respect, trust, and care for one another. > Similar backgrounds: ⦁ Like Ichigo and Rukia, who comprehend and assist one another because of their similar past experiences, Gintoki and Tsukuyo have comparable understanding and support. This theme is further developed in Gintama's "Red Spider Arc" where Gintoki and Tsukuyo's backstories are even more explicitly contrasted. > Similar circumstances and roles in series: ⦁ Both Tsukuyo and Rukia have defied orders to protect their respective protagonist. ⦁ Both Tsukuyo and Rukia struggle with emotional transparency and self-worth. Both characters have learnt to embrace their feelings and be less constrained thanks to their respective protagonist. > Corresponding symbolism & motifs: ⦁ Both pairs have canonically been associated with celestial motifs with Rukia and Tsukuyo being associated with the moon while Ichigo and Gintoki are associated with the Sun. ⦁ Rukia and Gintoki have been respectively described as the "light" in Ichigo and Tsukuyo's lives. ⦁ Rukia has been associated with Winter and Night while Ichigo has been associated with Summer and Day. Conversely, Tsukuyo has been associated with night and autumn while Gintoki has been associated with day and spring. > Common tropes: ⦁ Both pairs share the "a shared suffering", "back-to-back badasses", "battle couple", "belligerent tension", "birds of a feather", "can't live with them, can't live without them", "declaration of protection", "everyone can see it", "flirting under fire", "friends to lovers", "I owe you my life", "mutual respect", "slow burn", "sun × moon" and "you are better than you think you are" tropes.

If you made it till the end, I'm so grateful. Thanks for reading my ramblings. Please let me know your thoughts in the comments below. Also, remember not to spread misinformation and to respect others' right to formulate their own opinions.

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