#giant sized x men

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THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR A GIANT SIZED XMEN AU me and oomf brainstormed (stupidly) where Akihiro replaces Logan in the lineup

All of the consequential conversation turned into us mashing him and aurora like Barbie's I'm different situations where they met earlier

Training! Auraki Vs baseball! Auraki which consists of of normal X men horniness but auraki. Enough said

Also mostly unfinished but aki stealing warrens money to buy rora all the outfits she wants. As is right

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Does anyone know any sea shanties?

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2008's Giant-Size Astonishing X-Men Vol.1 #1 cover by penciller John Cassaday and colorist Laura Martin.

R.I.P. John Cassaday (December 14, 1971 - September 9, 2024).

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I like the image of him just shaking his fists at them in disappointment like an old man dealing with damn kids on his front lawn 😭

Giant Size X-Men #1 (1975)

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHBHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

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Lil Nas X eats his home slave Tom - 4/14

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Giant-Size Wolverine retcons

Marvel, famously, loves having Wolverine as a cash cow, to the point it has its own entry on TVTropes. This manifests as a LOT of Wolverine #1s being released as well as the clawed-one showing up on deceitful covers and guest starring anywhere they think they can justify it. Less common (but still frequent enough) is Forrest Gumping him into historical events or rewriting events he was there for as a character study cynical profiteering.

Sunfire is still great - 'banal prattle.' You tell em

This is the latter, foregrounding Logan in Giant-Size X-Men to the detriment of almost everyone else. In the original Giant-Size X-Men, Logan sits at the back and says very little. Here he takes charge and uncharacteristically identifies that the new squad lacks synergy and a sense of teamwork. He opens with 'it's your first day as new X-Men, people. I'm going to show you how this works.' Uh, isn't it yours too? Did I miss a meeting?

Poor Kurt. Eddie Munster is just mean

So he starts a fight, telling everyone there's one too many people. Colossus objects for sexist reasons (not objection to killing lol) and Storm puts him in his place. Sunfire and Thunderbird both have little patience for white people or bullshit and Logan catches a fireball...

... and an elbow to the spine. Ororo goes off with electricity and Kurt just doesn't want to die, so he BAMFs behind her and starts choking Storm from behind. Logan turns the tables on Proudstar and drops a one liner about metal conducting electricity. I'm no wizard, but I don't think it interacts well with human flesh, either, especially if they have a metal skeleton. Obviously he takes everyone down and has the biggest dick in the world.

Yeah... about Thunderbird.

Banshee bursts in and reveals Logan is acting against Chuck's wishes. I'm generally in favour of that but I'm not fond of its narrative function at all . He has an open shirt, a toothpick in his mouth, and looks oh so pleased with himself. I'm not some reactionary purist who worships the sacred texts and pushes back against retcons. Quite the opposite, in fact. Additive retcons are fantastic when done well - Magneto being a Holocaust survivor stands as one of the best in fiction.

I don't think that's what this is, or at least it's not successful. In Giant-Size X-Men #1 there's no time for this pissing contest because all the other X-Men need rescuing ASAP. Chuck rounds them up and handles the basics then defers to Cyclops, the field leader of many years. They leave immediately and nobody is getting along. Sunfire leaves then comes back. Scott is all business because he's worried about the folks on Krakoa and there just isn't time. If they respect the chain of command in the field that's good enough. Team building can come later.

What's achieved here besides sidelining everyone to centre edge lord Logan? Not a lot, in fact I'd say it minimises Logan's character arc most of all. He was a grumpy loner who eventually learnt to trust people, came to see the X-Men as family, and committed to the team. Logan knowing half this stuff already and having this degree of social confidence just undermines that, as well as Cyclops' leadership of this ragged band. Not sure what Whedon was thinking tbh.

That wasn't the end of it, though. Interestingly, this is Chris Claremont writing here. Again, I'm not a purist and I'm under no illusion about CC's later X-Men work. He'd worked with these characters for a long time but Giant-Size was Wein & Cockrum, so he's choosing to expand the origin story. Thunderbird is still alive so they're still pretty new here. Anyway, Cyke is running a danger room training session - Storm vs Thunderbird.

After some kinda bizarre ethnic posturing Ororo is pinned.

Unsurprisingly, she starts to wig out due to her claustrophobia. Logan picks it up with his advanced senses and jumps in. Scott owns the mistake and ends the training session.

I find it hard to buy Scott would feel like his authority was undermined here. Logan is being as paternalistic as ever, but Scott blames himself for failures. He doesn't externalise it and he understands he's not leading children anymore. It's Chuck who has difficulty adapting to this specific dynamic. Also, Logan had zero interest in leadership. None. It was Ororo who was a friendly rival to him and ended up succeeding him as leader. He also didn't especially trust or show respect to anyone. Everyone else has problems but the focus and Charles' confidant is Wolverine. That's silly as hell.

Okay, private insecurity and self-doubt, totally Scott's thing. I'm just going to ignore literally everything else that's happening, especially 'damaged goods.' Ugh.

The second story came out in 2005 in Giant-Size X-Men #4. Aside from the Wolverine oversaturation and other weird shit I've pointed out, I feel like there was a concerted effort to bring certain characters closer to their FOX movies counterparts. Chuck started looking like Captain Picard, Scott was Flanderised a bit but moreso deemphasized, and Logan started to look and act more like Hugh Jackman. He joined more teams, regressed in social growth yet became way more important to the X-Men. More important to the very fabric of the Marvel universe.

I get why it happened (capitalism) but I think it was executed poorly in many instances. These are particularly egregious, but Wolverine was and is fucking everywhere - under many different writers. There's always going to be a sense of asynchronicity under those circumstances. I've actually come to really dislike Logan lately. Obviously it's an issue for most long running characters, but his particular regression to the mean every new book bores the shit out of me. He's not growing at all, even when everything around him changes. On Krakoa he was mostly just gruff and stabby, monologuing about hell, beer, time, nature, poison, and being the best he is at what he does. 🙄

He'll usually find someone worse than him to point at and call out with transparency he never applies to himself. Magneto, Scott, Beast, Scott, Chuck, teenage Scott, Sabertooth, Omega Red, Beast, Chuck, and Scott again. Someone please deconstruct this guy! Send him to therapy, break him down to his base components and examine them. Fuck his moping or running naked with wolves or fighting the W-digo - give him a messy boyfriend and force him to get the fuck over Jean Grey.

He can still fight ninjas and mentor troubled teens and sulk about whatever his latest thing is - just have him grow! His books will still sell, people will still cheer when he says bub, and snikt isn't going away. Hire Al Ewing to do it like he did with Loki, Hulk, Magneto, Sunspot, etc. Some of those changes actually stuck and the characters are more popular than ever! Is that too much to hope for? Almost certainly, but one can hope.

Boy I got carried away on that outro, lol.

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Time Is a Flat Stepping Disc Part 1 The Illyana Rasputin timeline issue by issue

Giant-Size X-Men #1 Where it all began. Illyana is innocently playing on her Communist Soviet farm and is saved from a runaway tractor by her brother, who then sadly leaves her to join the X-Men.

Is it available on Marvel Unlimited: Yes Has it been reprinted in an Epic Collection: Yes

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I'll take your place :)) 

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Jay & Miles X-Plain the X-Men, Episode 474 - Giant-Size Winter Special #13 (feat. Anthony Oliveira)

In which the Warlock ongoing series is fun, and fun is good; people should maybe leave Doug Ramsey’s grave alone; Tony Stark is probably not in touch with the Indigo Girls; the heroes skate awfully close to the “no killing” line; Bastion gets exhumed, rehumed, and re-exhumed; you should really read the Avengers Academy Infinity Comic; and you remain the best listeners of any podcast, ever.

X-PLAINED:

X-related characters of Avengers Academy

Warlock vol. 5, #1-9

Warlock (more) (again)

M-Tech

Jay’s Bluey Test for all-ages media

The visual semiotics of Warlock Project Mainspring

Hope (Esperanza Ling)

Chi-Chee

Psi-cops

Gatekeepers

Technarchs

The transmode virus

A fancy hat

Many guest stars

The Phalanx (more) (again)

Psiren

Psimon

The techno-mechanic virus

Complicated feelings

Psycho Man (more) (again)

Astro-computers

Hope’s actual powers

Template

Magus (more) (again)

Avengers Academy Marvel Voices Infinity Comic

Why there are so many Canadian comic-book writers

Superhero comics vs. religious texts

Defining heroism

Escapade

Captain America of the Railways

Bloodline

Red Goblin

Moon Girl

Kid Juggernaut

Blackheart

Ongoing storytelling

Emplate as a queer character

Marcus Wetherell

What else to read if you love Avengers Academy Marvel Voices Infinity Comic

The 11th Annual Super Doctor Astronaut Peter Corbeau Awards for Excellence at X-Cellence

Many people to whom we are profoundly grateful

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Urrrr, vampire Storm.

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Oh just remembered this

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Fanart of my oc, Elias from this story by @simplyserenitystyles !

We adore😍❤️

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Giant-Size Astonishing X-Men #1

RIP John Cassaday

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Kurt Wagner, Nightcrawler (2/x)

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Giant-Size X-Men assemble!

After Havok, Polaris, and the 05 except Cyclops (plus a secret team of abandoned children) are lost on Krakoa, Professor Xavier travels the world to ease his conscience assemble a team to rescue them.

He starts with Nightcrawler in rural Germany, in the nick of time - saving him from a pitchfork wielding mob. He only wants to be a 'whole Kurt Wagner' and joins. Not sure he had much choice here.

I am the bigwig, Wolverine. Lol

Next Chuck meets with the obnoxious Wolverine in Canada, offering him the chance to not be owned by the Canadian government. Logan says yes, but some government suit objects. He roughs him up and threatens him then leaves with the professor.

Banshee just says yes immediately. He's got nothing going on.

Come join me in a life of violence and hatred.

Ororo is living the dream in Kenya, not recognising the guy she pickpocketed a decade prior. Sensing a sincerity (that doesn't sound right) she agrees to 'leave the nest.'

Sunfire, perhaps surprisingly, puts aside his dislike of the west and dons the loudest costume in existence. He'll change his mind so many times. I love him.

In the USSR, this communist oaf finds someone new to tell him what to do. His parents look terrified.

The unfortunately coloured John Proudstar tells Chuck to go fuck himself, explicitly on anti-colonial grounds. Xavier calls the Apache cowards (Jesus Christ dude) and pushes Proudstar's buttons just right. He joins as well, to prove himself.

Chuck teaches everyone English in minutes, the same way Krakoan would be learnt decades later.

Here they all are in baldie's mansion. Colossus marvels at the existence of Spandex and Sunfire tells Chuck to hurry up. Cyclops pulls off a pretty fantastic dramatic entrance and briefs the team on the situation. The new X-Men were born!

It's often said that the Fastball Special was the first mutant circuit, but Lorna empowered by Storm's electricity predates it. Together they yeet Krakoa into spaaace. Iceman and the Summers brothers combine powers to make a crude but fast ice boat. Having reread Giant-Size for the first time in years, I'm noticing how many concepts Hickman picked up and reworked for HoxPoX.