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ok first of all trio of all time. give them a book but only if rosenberg writes it. second of all i want to say that rose does not carry a gun so i believe with my whole heart that she stole jasons gun while he was distracted just to aimlessly shoot in the vague direction where someone was
#rose grabbing jasons gun while hes busy investigating a dead body then not even hitting who she was shooting at#i love her thats my failgirl#shoots at nothing#gets attacked and taken down in like 5 seconds#gets up again and has to be physically restrained so she doesnt keep trying to fight a good guy#tuesday spoilers#dc
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Random HC's That I Probably Overexplain - Cater Edition 1!
TW: Angst heavy, using kids for profit via social media, emotional/physical abuse (nothing explicit/gory) His mom was a family life vlogger. I've dabbled on this topic a few times before, but never got really into it. His mom ran a channel called the "Beloved Diamond Family", in which his mother went by Dreamy Diamond, and his older sisters went by Dazzling and Ditzy Diamond. He was "Daring Diamond" or sometimes just called "Little Gem/Diamond". "Daddy Diamond" was never around, but his mom sometimes went on rants about him on camera. They rarely made it onto the channel though. Part of the reason the Diamonds moved so much is because of his dad's work, but the other part was because of how much information his mom would divulge and put her kids in danger. Cater's dad did his best to protect his kids from the consequences of her actions, but couldn't get ahead of them. Cater was the star of many of the videos, as he was the baby and everyone wanted to see more of him. He hated being made to do everything that his mom said, or repeating the actions a hundred times until he got it "perfect", but the comments of other parents telling him how much their kids loved him and whatnot was enough to keep him going. It's also why he's so attached to his phone now and a big part of why he just keeps up the facade. To be caught at a less than picture perfect moment or with a subpar reaction at this point scares him. Irrationally, he worries about his mothers reaction, and because he's never really been to school for long enough to make friends, he has to act the only way he knows how and hope that people keep liking the show he puts on. A lot of the videos were pretty fluffy, happy videos, but Ms. Diamond would do anything for views, and did put out videos of Cater sobbing over his dead pet, about him breaking his arm on his skateboard, and a lot of her "prank" videos that were mostly just endangering her kids or trying to prove her husband was cheating. (At one point she did a "slip and slide" in the kitchen and called Cater over to try some of her cookies. He couldn't have been more than five or six, so he came running in excited and ended up in urgent care. All the scars and marks he got from his moms wacked out ideas have been carefully hidden under makeup and magic for years now, but sometimes he doesnt have the energy to cover them up on his clones). Obviously, none of the Diamond kids were off very well, but when they were "too big to be cute anymore" his mom kind of let the channel die out and became a more severe alcoholic. However, when her channel started to pick up traction again years later, Ms. Diamond decided to keep her channel going with behind the scenes clips and telling stories about her kids while mildly tipsy. She didn't tell her kids she was going to do this, and now that they're all 18 and over they want to stop her, but don't want to cause more drama from her. Cater's bigger sister wants to take her to court for everything she's done, but Cater and his eldest sister just want to ignore it and sweep it under the rug like nothing is going on because it hurts too much to revisit the things they used to have to do. Cater's mom is...a BoyMom. Like she is Not Normal about her son to a creepy uncomfortable extent and Cater doesn't know how to deal with it, he mostly tries to break contact with her, but she is relentless and a master guilt tripper. He had been looking forward to his 18th birthday to officially disown her or put a restraining order on her, but never had the heart to actually do it, because...it is his mom, and family never abandons each other unless you want to be a piece of shit, right? (This is not serious, please, if you have family that doesn't treat you well don't be afraid to leave if you can)
#v talks#twst#twisted wonderland#twst hcs#twst headcanons#cater diamond#twst cater#my baby boy I'm sorry I do this to all my favourites#I can build on this more if you all Want but like. It'll involve my OC bc they're dating#like I could#fully infodump about Vizzie or something and tie everything together with a little bow#but I probably wont lmao#random hc's I probably overexplain#<- if you want the rest of them and in case I forget to make a masterlist for these....or get too lazy#abuse tw#tw abuse#random hcs i probably overexplain
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first off, i LOVE your analysis series. may i give you some raya angst, because i just think the fandom needs more?
how long do you think it takes for raya to relax around people, to be able to talk and have people RESPOND?? this girl spent her entire teenage years, when you're just trying to figure yourself out and survive, alone and in a broken world. SIX YEARS. no wonder her gay realization of namaari's crush on her hasn't set in yet, she's been so determined to find sisu.
how long do you think it takes for raya to stop jumping up in the middle of the night, to keep herself from wanting to whip out her sword whenever she hears a sound? how many times do you think she's almost puled her sword on her ba?
how much sensory overload do you think she gets? it's been six years of only talking to tuk tuk, only being around one other living being. and sure, she's seen and interacted with others during the time gap, but just barely.
now, from what we've seen of her before world broke, she was fairly outgoing and social, but also wary of people. how much do you think that has changed? like, no wonder that she's always written to be attached to namaari. that's her only real semblance of human interaction through the six years, and the only thing that stayed. other than tuk tuk, namaari has probably interacted with raya the most in those six years.
but think of the bonding that they'll have. they're so connected now. raya knows nobody else. any of the friends she might have had would have been turned to stone, and therefore would be six years younger than her. and of course she has boun and tong and noi and sisu, but it's not the same as having someone her age, someone who shares the same guilt and weight.
anways, this is all over the place but i just have so many feelings. sorry to bother you with this mess but hhh i want more people to explore her trauma and give her a damn hug.
SHEEESH. Ok, this has been sitting in my inbox but its time to answer. I do love some Raya angst (or is it just me projecting my own feelings) how long do you think it takes for raya to relax around people, to be able to talk and have people RESPOND?? I'd like to think a while. Six years is a very long time. She has learned to be independent and has found so much comfort in her solitude that I can see it becoming purely instinct to be on edge around people or simply have people actually approach her. Coz as we've seen Raya is the type who used to talk to herself or Tuktuk most of the time so I'm sure its weird for her to hear OTHER people's responses. In fact, it may even cause her a little trouble hearing their opinions that might trigger her in a way since all those years no one was physically there to challenge or question her own thoughts and actions. Being hyperaware is definitely a kind of PTSD. I'm not expert but Raya is definitely traumatized lmao. So the answer for that part is a very long time till she stops physically reacting. Though, I feel like she'll still be on edge but learns how to restrain herself without pulling a sword or a fighting stance towards anyone who doesn't mean to sneak up on her. In terms of sensory overload, I'm pretty sure ya girl had numerous mini panic attacks to full blown ones she tries her best to suppress and fails most of the time. As someone who is highly sensitive to sound, taste and smell to point where I get crazy overwhelmed, I gotta tell you its not easy. Shit drives you nuts and its soo frustrating and you kinda wish you were alone. So Raya probably has thoughts like that going back to her time being alone without the need to exert herself. Also, I think Raya is actually a major introvert with an extrovert personality (again this is me projecting 👀) She seems social but its mostly a front. I think Raya has been alone/independent for such a long time so being an inconvenience to people is not something she wants so she makes sure everyone knows she's okay. But obviously, its exhausting putting up a front, i think everyone knows that. It's why in fanfics, people write her to always slip away from social events after a bit coz everything is too loud or she's interacted enough. She has always used her energy for herself, so using it for others is overwhelmingly exhausting and it takes a lot for her to exert herself like that especially to things and people who are unfamiliar. That's also why I believe she leans closer to Namaari, coz she is familiar. They've both literally seen the worst of each other. Now, post Druuns, they have the chance to explore the things that doesnt involve killing each other. They've seen the ugly parts so what's left are all the best parts 👀.
#i live for raya angst#her character is so in depth#its very relatable#raya#rayaari#raya and the last dragon#ty for this anon!#namaari
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3 and 8 general; 7 and 10 love; 1, 2 and 6 domestic life (sorry if there are too many, i'm in love with cereza x talbott 😔💕)
3-What was their first kiss like?
Their first kiss happend on their second valentines day together when they were on year 6.(the valentines day ball sq) Like i previously said, they decided to take their relationship slow since both of them were awkward about it and it was new to them. They always got very nervous about the topic of kiss since it would be the the first kiss for both of them and they didnt want to screw it up, but that was until one day.
During the ball of valentines day, after Talbott showed Cereza the surprise he prepared for her in the library they stayed there for a while being love birds until it happend. Their first kiss. Talbott was the one who asked if Cereza was okay with it and when she said "yes" they kissed. Even tho it was a little awkward at first since none of them never kissed before they started to get into, it felt magical for them.
8-Who gets jealous easier?
Oh well I never thought about that before, since both of them really trust eachother to not cheat. But i think Talbott would still feel a little insecure when other guys try to flirt with Cereza and get angry if they keep bothering her giving them the death stare.
Although i do have to say Cereza also has a jealous side she is just good at hiding.(sometimes)
7-What are their favorite things to do together?
They like going on small dates, like nothing really especial as a dinner or anything like that, just them being love birds and spending time together. Maybe like going on a picnic, watching the stars together and getting some flowers. (Cereza like to make flower crows for Talbott and Talbott tries to do the same although he claims her flower crows are better than his.)
They enjoy study dates, although sometimes they keep teasing eachother during it just to get their focus off the studies. They mostly tease eachother with compliments and being flirty.(if u go to the library and see one of them smiling like an idiot and the idiot and the other a blushy mess dont worry they are on a study date.)
They also like flying together when they are both on their animagus forms, Cereza still doesnt know how to fly properly as owl but she is trying her best and Talbott is there to catch her if she falls.
10-Do they prefer verbal or physical affection?
Cereza loves giving physical affection, although she tried to restrain herself during the start of her relationship with Talbott cause she didnt know if he was comfortable with yet. Little did she knows that this man is a touch starved mf but she noticed that with time. She loves giving him hugs and he loves her hugs, also pats, hand holding, kisses on the cheek and on the lips are on her list as well and Talbott is living for it.
As for Talbott he isnt good with words, i mean saying words, but he is really at writing them which is what he uses to his advantage. At first he wasnt sure if Cereza would like his poetry but he took a shot and oh boy she loved it so much that she keeps that poem on her stuff as a treasure, she does that to all his poems she likes to keep them so she can read it again and have a goofy smile on her face while feeling like a protag of a romance book. Talbott also likes giving Cereza little gifts, nothing expensive just stuff as flowers, poems and sweets, he also gave his feather to her which she turned into a necklace.
1-If they get married, who proposes?
Both of them proposed at the same 🤡 Cereza planned a romantic dinner at their house(they started living together before getting married) and she was planning to propose Talbott, little did she know that this man was also planning to propose her on that same night. They both did it on the same time and both of acted surprised:
"wait, no way, no way I- omg"
They both had a good laugh of it tho and accepted eachother rings lol.
2-What’s the wedding like? Who attends?
(it looked something close to these two pics)
They married on a Brazilian Beach, the ones who managed to get into their wedding were the Khanna twins,(yes i have two Rowans in my story and none of them died fuck u Jc) Cereza's family, Talbott's grandparents, Barnaby(who is dating Michael), the Weasleys, Penny, Chiara, Jae, Tulip, Merula, Andre(of course), Badeea(who painted a beautiful picture of the wedding btw) and Ben. They only invited only the few they were still very close with it and some others that i didnt mention couldnt come unfortunately.
6-Who worries the most?
Talbott 100%, although if u want to see this man on his full worried mode wait until Cereza gets pregnant and when they find out they are getting twins. Yep twins, two little girls. When the babies are born this man starts working at home, so he can take care of the twins and Cereza(being a mama is tiring) while keeping an eye on them. Eagle dad doesnt rest and keeps his family safe all the time.
#hphm#hogwarts mystery#Talbott winger#talbott winger x mc#talbott winger x cereza gomez#cereza gomez#hphm mc#hphm cereza
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How can you excuse all of the abusive things Luther has done to his siblings (especially Klaus) throughout the series? And don't pull the "he was drunk" card. And without implying that Luther locking up Vanya isn't intentionally cruel or intended to hurt her? He has the ability to think logically, unlike Vanya he isn't experiencing a literal psychotic break down.... Please, explain this to me logically. Thanks.
~ wowowowowowow i clenched my jaw all night thinking about this ask~~
Yikes. You’re not asking me why I “excuse his actions” (I don’t), you’re asking why I see him as a human being with flaws and trauma which need to be addressed rather than the literal devil. And why I don’t think he is irredeemable based on a few terrible choices (when he has also made some great ones and showed affection for his siblings in the past). I honestly think people hate Luther because it’s easier to have clearly good characters and clearly bad characters, even in a show that actively and artfully avoids that dichotomy.
Why do you care that I like Luther? I’m not bashing your faves or causing any harm to you? I am not trying to tell you to like him or convince you he is a great character. I know he has flaws.
But if you really want to know how I “excuse all his actions” (which…. I don’t?), I’ll humor you, but I’m answering the question you’re really asking:
Why Do You Not Despise Luther?:
This response is really longwinded but THIS QUESTION IS REALLY OVER-SIMPLIFYING(!!!) so I feel it’s warranted.
First, I’m gonna address the “abusive things Luther has done to his siblings throughout the series:”
I am not excusing any of the things Luther “does to his siblings,” I’m just saying we should extend the same amount of courtesy to him in sympathizing with him and understanding the motive behind his actions (just like we all do with Vanya). And also consider the fact that he is deeply traumatized and has literally been gaslit his entire life into thinking he has to follow a specific model that was set out for him as “leader.” Literally he has been taught that he is nothing without the UA and being a leader, and I don’t think people release how damaging that is to a person?
But also hot take: I don’t think Luther is abusive towards his siblings at all? Not until the last two episodes for sure. I think he is insensitive towards others’ emotions at times, but he is never cruel just for the sake of being cruel. I honestly think Luther is incapable of picking up on emotional cues to some extent.
I’m re-watching right now, I just finished episode 7 and I have yet to see any signs of him being abusive towards the others, and not Klaus specifically? The choking scene was vile and physically violent but I don’t think it’s abusive because it was a one time thing and abuse is a cycle. Luther isn’t particularly awful to Klaus, he is just dismissive? The only person he ever is really verbally mean to is Diego when they get into fights and Diego is just as bad if not worse, and also intentionally tries to get an emotional rise out of Luther (which is…. just as awful and cruel?).
But yeah I finished episode 7 and no abuse so far… maybe my dumb ass who was abused for my whole life just doesn’t understand what abuse looks like? Okay that’s kind of a joke but I’m actually being serious, my abuse is pretty similar to Luther’s and my body dysmorphia/eating issues are similar to his too which is a lot of why I resonate with him, so I could be missing signs because I’ve probably acted the same way. So please point out to me where specifically he committed an act of abuse, and not a one time act of violence or simply being dismissive of/not picking up on someone’s emotional needs.
Also I honestly think Luther is just in denial of others’ emotional needs because he is in denial of his own emotional needs. He has been taught to push everything down, including the needs of others, with the only goal being completing the mission, and protecting everyone/leading everyone to safety. Also I mean, he hasn’t been around human beings for 4 years (so of course he struggles to relate to them/communicate healthily), and he was always taught not to engage with his siblings but just to lead them because that was his role.
Also Klaus and Diego (especially Diego) are just as dismissive of Luther’s trauma? And like yeah Luther covers it up but it’s pretty freaking obvious…pointing out how big he is specifically.
Diego literally sees Luther shirtless after the chandelier falls on him, sees how self-conscious he clearly is, and then never asks about it or checks on him (yet continues to joke about it – also Klaus makes fun of his muscles when he first sees him which is just insensitive). And in the first episode the way Klaus jokes around during the family meeting about cucumber sandwiches when Luther is trying to plan a memorial service; it’s obvious that Luther is grieving and paranoid (and also that he has been manipulated enough to love Reginald!!!) and Klaus is just making jokes and not addressing this? And then they both just ignore his obvious paranoia over Reginald’s death and just call him crazy and walk away? And don’t use the “he was high” excuse for Klaus being a prick (just like I can’t use the ‘he was drunk’ excuse for Luther, which I never did once btw, y’all just want more justification 2 hate on him).
Also: Yes, Luther tells Diego to stop talking shit about Reginald at the memorial service but like, from his perspective, that is someone bashing the person he was closest to AT HIS FUNERAL!!! He starts the fight with Diego but only after Diego provoked him, clearly intentionally, and Diego continues to fight him and throws a fucking knife at his arm (but physical violence is only not okay when Luther uses it right?).
Also HUGE THING Y'ALL ARE IGNORING: Klaus finds out Luther had nonconsensual sex while drugged out of his mind and congratulates him………. uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh idk about you but I think Klaus has been around the block when it comes to drugs and sex (and consent) and should realize that someone on drugs for the first time losing their virginity is nonconsensual, or even if considered consensual still pretty icky? Like Luther is clearly ashamed and upset and doesn’t want to talk about it and Klaus just laughs abt it. That is so not cool.
And another thing:
Luther is very, very protective of Five which is so so sweet, yet people just completely overlook it because they only want to see the bad things he’s done. When he and Allison run into him in the hallway at the end of Run Boy Run and see him looking distressed Luther asks him in a soft voice, “Are you okay? Can we help?” and reaches out to touch Five’s face. Five grabs his hand to stop him but this was very sweet? Like it’s clear Luther has a soft spot for him because he’s small.
But Diego? After he finds out about Patch he bursts into his apartment and goes to attack Five; Luther has to pick him up to restrain him from beating up their brother who has the body of a 13 year old. All because he blames him for the death of the love of his life (just like Luther is afraid of Vanya after she killed Allison). But in Diego’s case, Patch is already dead; Diego only wants to hurt Five out of vengeance, not because he’s trying to protect Patch. And he doesn’t apologize or anything after????? It’s just never brought up again!
SO IN TERMS OF LUTHER BEING AWFUL TO KLAUS THE WHOLE SEASON: is he? is he really? is he really abusive? and is he really that much worse than his other siblings?
And now I’ll address this nonsense:
“And without implying that Luther locking up Vanya isn’t intentionally cruel or intended to hurt her? He has the ability to think logically, unlike Vanya he isn’t experiencing a literal psychotic break down…. Please, explain this to me logically. Thanks.“
…….sigh.
Luther is absolutely not being intentionally cruel or doing this to “punish” Vanya, he’s doing this because he’s freaking the fuck out and doesn’t have any idea what she might do. Yes it’s a bad idea but we need to keep in mind that he’s not thinking logically, he is emotionally distressed. Yes he could talk to her but Allison had just tried to do that…. and look where the fuck that got her?
Do you seriously believe Luther was mentally stable and thinking logically in this moment? Do you not realize he was literally going through a breakdown and identity crisis of his own?
He just found out maybe two days ago that his entire life was a lie and the person whose approval he sought the most didn’t give a shit about him, found out he was isolated from humanity for no reason (which….. as if being isolated in itself wasn’t traumatic enough), after he was mutilated against his will, and now he has just witnessed the person he loves most almost die and he couldn’t do anything about it. Luther is experiencing a breakdown and I think a big part of it is control: he realizes he’s had no agency his whole life/has never had control, he just lost control/agency over his body on drugs even more and had nonconsensual sex while intoxicated, and then after this he sees Allison dying and he can’t do anything to help her (he can’t even give his blood)!!!! His superstrength and locking up Vanya is the only thing he has control over, he feels it’s all he can do to prevent the apocalypse/protect everyone.
Not only that but the idea of control as contol over powers: Luther has super strength, he has to be super careful and controlled all the time so he doesn’t accidentally hurt the people he loves… the thought of someone’s powers being out of control is probably the scariest thing in the world to him. And yes, he gets in fights with Diego but he doesnt use his full strength (just like Diego doesn’t either) because if they did then they would actually hurt each other, they have a lot of control over their powers. But Diego can control his powers by just… not throwing things and having temper tantrums. Luther doesn’t need to be angry to fuck up with his powers, we see that in the very first episode when he punches the model airplane. Luther can never escape his powers and has to constantly control them, and the idea of uncontrolled powers is his worst fucking nightmare.
So Vanya tells him, “we got in an argument and things got out of control” … like just imagine what must be racing through Luther’s mind when he hears that!
Yes what he does in this scene is awful but you can’t convince me he is doing it with the intention of hurting her. Literally you can see in his eyes as he is choking her how pained he is by this. And he apologizes to her: why would he apologize to her if he was trying to hurt her? And if that was intention… why wouldn’t he just fucking kill her?
I absolutely don’t agree with his decision here but like…. he absolutely is going through a mental breakdown and it doesn’t just stop during The Day that Was/Wasn’t and to act like he is completely stable and in his right mind when he locks Vanya up is just grossly oversimplifying everything!
Y’all demonizes him over this but completely overlook some of the awful things his siblings have done (Diego going to beat up Five because he blames him for Patch’s death, Vanya killing a ton of random people because she was locked up)…. Like yes: Luther is insensitive, dismissive, and cruel in this scene but it is not his intention to be cruel, it’s obviously his intention to control Vanya’s out-of-control powers, protect his siblings (esp. Allison), and prevent her from causing the apocalypse. It is awful and yes it is cruel but to act like he just doesn’t give a shit about Vanya and/or is doing it just to hurt her is just….. so beyond what the show is portraying.
And I get that you guys really despise him for this, and if you’re going to hate him, fine: but you completely overlook the terrible things all the other siblings do throughout the whole series and write Luther off as evil, which is not cool. Seriously, y’all portray Luther as the literal devil just so that your faves seem like infallible angels and your headcanons and fanfictions seem nicer and more simple………. and honestly I just can’t reason with you. I think some people just hate on Luther and love everyone else because his abuse situation is more complex and they’re just… literally too lazy to do the mental math, so they stick with stanning everyone else whose trauma is more obvious? Even though Luther covering up his trauma (literally) and refusing to talk about/deal with it is a huge plot point in the show, y’all perceive this as him just not having any trauma, or just overook how his trauma affects his actions.
This show isn’t supposed to be “everyone in the family are wonderful, perfect victims and deals with their trauma like angels EXCEPT LUTHER HE IS STOOPID AND EVIL AND ALSO HIS TRAUMA ISN’T DEEP ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!”…… and if you think this then I think you need to do some soul searching? Or actually do some research into abuse and learn that it comes in many different forms and has many different effects?
Again: I don’t dislike any of the siblings. I used them as examples but I love Diego, Klaus and Vanya!!! I respect and understand them all and view them all as troubled souls who are trying.
This show is complex and it’s designed to be uncomfy, and if you simply write it off as having clear victims and villains (except Reginald, he a dick) then you are not respecting the writing or giving the show justice.
Gerard Way says he wrote Luther based on his own experience of body dysmorphia, isolation….. the show designers say he has self-harmed before, and Tom Hopper has said Luther has been suicidal in the past…. but you know what, go on portraying his trauma as “having it easy” and using violence/cruelty just for fun, even though the show clearly portrays him as a broken man.
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#umbrella academy#luther hargreeves#luther hargreeves defense squad#luther hargreeves protection squad#luther positivity#vanya hargreeves#klaus hargreeves#diego hargreeves
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Can I get a matchup please?? I'm a 5'6" trans man with brown hair and blue eyes. I'm shy at first but eventually get super attached to people. I love horror movies and any type of physical affection. I love animals, especially cats. I often use humor to cope with my emotions and have a hard time letting people help me when I'm vulnerable.
I match you with: baby!
• baby can seem intimidating at first glance, and this impression is only further backed by her unpredictable personality and manic behavior, which often presents itself in the form of senseless violence. her character may have developed this way through how she was raised, and by her own family's reckless tendencies. surrounded by gore, drugs, and sex for the majority of her life, baby has grown to be a daredevil and adrenaline junkie. needless to say, you will never find yourself bored with her close by. although she mainly craves chaos and destruction in all possible forms, she finds pleasure in exploiting the innocent and helpless, whether this is through violence, sex, drinking, drugs, partying, etc. being the shy, quiet individual, you will find yourself in a world not many dare to enter in their lives, should you cross paths with baby. her approach to acquainting herself if someone happens to catch her eye is not unlike a feral animal attacking a small woodland creature-she walks with the gait of a predator whose mind and morals have long since expired, a wolfish grin spread across her lips that seems to want to just eat you up, sweetheart, her mannerisms rigid and wild, hands surprisingly strong in their grip and eyes unknowably hypnotic with the corruption and madness contained within them. her tongue is sharp as the knife shell use to pretty you up, and as alluring as the hunters snare. you cannot play with fire and not get burned.
• in the blistering heat of the south, under the bleeding sun walks a woman with the heart of the devil and the flesh of an angel, red gooey hands swinging, dripping at her sides, her soul hungry for more, always more. her lips reveal an insanity on a sugar high, words and phrases mashed together in quick speed and a wicked tone brought up from the depths of her dark soul. baby lives a life of hedonism and hellish delights, and while she enjoys having her fun, she doesnt mind having others tag along, especially if she takes a liking to them. however, it is more likely that one would become a victim rather than a friend if they became the unfortunate target of her attention. still, your demeanor fascinates her, your face when she first knew she had to add you to her collection, your beautiful tears when she woke you in her room as she strapped you to a chair. your suffering is unimaginable beauty to her, though she would not go as far as to inflict any permanent damage. it is hard for her to restrain herself when your choked sobs and cries of pain are the melodies sung by the very angels above, but she manages. she would also be sure to keep the rest of the firefly family at bay, claiming you as her personal victim, as she retrieved you herself. in the time that follows, it is reasonable to imagine she would include you in the "shows" she often performs, always with teasing touches and the occasional rough grasp, feeling your soft skin under her hands. due to her frequent mood swings, you may find her petting your hair in her room as she sits beside you facing the window, watching the sun dip below the horizon, turning the evening sky into a lovely earthy blue and deep lavender as the world falls asleep, the summer air of the night filling your lungs, baby whispering sweet nothings, calling you her pet, her pretty, pretty pet. on the other side, you may find her lashing out in frustration, you, bound to her chair and unable to flee from her fury, those violent hands of hers punching holes in the walls and scratching at them in pure anger until her fingertips bleed raw, incoherent screeches of rage filling the room as she attacks all that is around her, smashing glass and throwing furniture, every so often pausing to make her way to you, forcing her face just inches from yours, white knuckles gripping the arms of the chair, her hot breath on your flesh, wild eyes barely able to stay still in contact with yours, those oh so violent hands picking up glass from the floor and dragging across your cheek and watching intently with what can only be described as pleasure as the red paints your skin.
• it is clear that baby herself enjoys a good laugh, though her sense of humor can be regarded as disturbing and odd. though she always seems to be in an excessively happy state due to her mental issues, she still appreciates someone who can make her laugh. if you tell her a joke, she'll laugh, even if she'd heard it a thousand times, even if what you said wasnt even meant to be a joke at all. if you do manage to open up to her and continue to entertain her humor, she'll grow quite attached. while she does have her bad days, she'll mainly prefer to spend time laughing with you instead of going out and finding other victims to slaughter. of course, she'll never cease her killing rampage, but her body count will begin to lessen as she finds that she would rather be with you. death, gore, and pain are still her passions, but she'll try to shield you from some of her and her family's behavior if she notices that it bothers you-without being too obvious, she also dislikes being emotional and serious. she would far rather stay on her happy high and believe that nothing matters at all. it is unlikely she will ever truly open up completely to anyone, but she will attempt to do little things here and there that she thinks will make you happy. if confronted, she'll dismiss it with a laugh and increase her agression and wild behavior for a period so as to not arouse suspicion from your or her family.
• baby is all too familiar with the world of sex. she often uses her body to lure in potential victims, and sometimes even continues to have "fun" with them before the kidnapping/killing. she loves anything that makes her feel good, anything that gives her pleasure and gives it to her fast-thus, her habits of drinking, doing drugs, killing, and having a lot of sex. she doesnt care for anyone elses well being until she begins to grow feelings for you. she would most likely attempt to seduce you as soon as she kidnaps you, but will not continue if you dont appear to want it as much as she does. baby prefers a situation wherein she and her victim are both enjoying themselves and therefore focused on the task at hand rather than focusing only on how to get away and make her stop. if you and her actually manage to form a trusting, undoubtedly faithful relationship, one in which you would not run away as soon as she turned her back, baby would eventually free you of your chair and integrate you into the family. you can expect her to attempt to seduce you again, but if you deny her, she will question your feelings for her-baby is not familiar with cuddling or anything of that sort. to her, love is expressed through sex, and you being uninterested signals to her that you do not love her. she will need to be taught that affection comes in many forms, and does not exist solely in pleasure. it will be a hard concept for her to grasp, however, after a while, you may wake to her shifting closer to you in the bed, her hands gentle, warmer, as she wraps them around you in an embrace.
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okay here it is!!! the long-awaited (not really) masterpost of hc’s about the background characters!!!
@105ttt and i have been working on this stuff for a couple weeks now and i’ve finally got around to making it into something shareable!! and i’m excited because now this means i get to use them in fics without people being completely lost!!!!
anyway this post is long so i’m gonna put it under a readmore-
Leonel
-link’s father
-captain of the guard & keeper of the wind key
-close friends with artura and valensuela since childhood
-because of the circumstances, he’s very well-read on the various legends/stories of the past heroes
-is a stand-in father for zelda sometimes because of how close she and his son(s) are
-constantly worried about his kids (sometimes because of the trouble they’ve been in, sometimes because of the trouble they cause)
-definitely the ‘cool manager’ type of captain- does what he needs to in order to run an efficient guard, but he’s also good friends with all of them
-there are days where he wants to take his kids out to town for a family day and there are days where he wants to throw them all out a window
Artura
-the captain’s top knight
-friends with leonel since childhood; they weren’t in the same battalion until they became full knights but leonel would cut sessions to go train with his group
-specialized in heavy armored combat, proficient in several kinds of weaponry but mostly uses bludgeoning weapons
-the backup dad for vio when leonel is busy because hylia knows vio needs constant supervision
-the embodiment of the gentle giant trope- does a lot of favors for people and the castle town kids ADORE him
-always busy + always tired. give artura his vacation days please
-he has a special room in the castle he goes to when he needs alone time and doesn’t want to be bothered. vio is allowed in but only grudgingly and only if he’s maintained at least one (1) week of decent behavior
-works a lot with younger trainees (mostly around link’s age); has a lot of instructional tasks on top of his regular patrol duties
-he doesn’t take off his armor in public a lot, so most people haven’t seen him out of it. there’s a joke among the younger groups that artura isn’t actually a person but rather a darknut or one of the phantom knights animated by the royal family’s magic. (actually it’s just because he’s secretly a twink and he doesn’t want people knowing that Mr. Top Knight/Mr. Living Darknut couldn’t hit 160lbs if he was soaking wet.)
Valensuela
-keeper of the water key
-close friends with leonel since childhood; was in the same trainee battalion as him
-trained for armored combat but dislikes wearing heavy plate- if he wears a lot of armor, it’s usually maille
-can dual-wield, but usually opts for one larger sword instead of two smaller ones
-basically adopts green after the pyramid incident. just steals him from leonel. green is his son now. green accidentally calls valensuela ‘dad’ once and leonel’s parentship of green ends right there.
-appears very dignified and serious but actually has a flair for the theatrical. most people are not aware of this but his friends know.
-leonel’s second-in-command, but he’s far more task-oriented and doesn’t deal with people as well as leonel does. he can come across as a little brusque with people he isn’t familiar with so he tries not to take that role if he doesn’t have to.
-not a personality headcanon but he has a scar on his forehead from when green shattered his helmet in the pyramid. and after he’s overcome the trauma that came with that whole ordeal, he definitely brags about it. someone asks what happened to him for him to have a scar like that and he’s like “oh my son did that isn’t he talented?”
Lucien
-keeper of the fire key
-so chill. extremely laid-back guy. the kind of guy you go to hang out with when you want to do something social but you don’t want to leave your house (or even your couch).
-kinda lazy when it comes to little mundane tasks, which he caught a lot of flak for while he was still in training, but wholeheartedly dedicated to his job when it comes down to it.
-basically adopts red. they’re like best buds. red makes lucien carry him around on his shoulders so he doesn’t have to walk but lucien doesn’t mind.
-absolutely the kind of person to disappear for an entire day and when you find him again and ask him where he went he says he was in the living room the whole time
-very good at cooking, but only the really time-consuming, complicated recipes, which goes directly against his low-effort nature. he rarely cooks, but everyone looks forward to the days that he does.
-also the kind of person to “work out” by doing one push up every five minutes. the second he hears someone approaching he’ll stay in mid-push-up position and when they walk in he’ll say “one thousand”. (he only actually made it to nine.)
-if he isn’t in armor he’s in sweats. “dress more professionally” the captain says to him one day. he shows up to breakfast the next morning wearing sweats again, but this time he also has a tie on.
-the tallest of the group, which artura makes fun of (it’s all in good fun. he just makes fun of artura for being so small.)
Wes
-keeper of the earth key
-the high-energy go-getter of the group. his energy alone balances out the chronically low-key natures of artura and lucien. basically an eternal child at heart.
-ALWAYS ready to throw down. it isn’t even that he has anger issues, he just needs a way to get rid of his restless energy while also triumphing in his various conflicts, and to him, fighting (within the controlled setting of a spar) is the easiest way to do that.
-one of those people that has to be physically restrained from doing dumb things. “hey i bet i could land in the hot spring if i jumped from the third story balcony” “wes you will break all of the bones in your lower body” “and??”
-also the guy in the group that’s constantly making bets and daring people to do things. he violates the sanctity of the triple dog dare by using it literally every time. he is also eerily good at predicting the correct outcome of bets.
-learns little things like sleight-of-hand tricks just to fudge them at the end; he’ll keep a group of little kids enamored with the “magic” before asking if they want to see the finale where he makes the cards disappear. the kids say yes and he just hurls the entire deck into a nearby bush. “there,” he says with pride as he walks away, “they’re gone.” (he would never actually upset the kids. if they look too disappointed he’ll sigh and go get the cards and do an actual disappearing trick just to make them better.)
-definitely takes blue under his wing. they spar like every morning. the other links might try to go on kitchen raids without their parents’/mentors’ knowing but blue goes WITH wes to go steal the best-looking cookies fresh off the baking sheet. arcy always gives wes grief for enabling that behavior but wes knows she won’t actually do anything about it
Selenas
-another of the captain’s high-ranking knights
-the exasperated lawful good of the group. he tries so hard to get the rest of them to follow the rules but it never works. he knows there’s no point to the efforts anymore but he still tries.
-the constant sigh-er of the group. you’d think he had respiratory issues if you didn’t know him.
-is tasked with helping to keep shadow in line because of his lawful good status. he’s the strict parent who insists upon balanced meals with a lot of vegetables and who believes in a strict 8pm bedtime. he will not hesitate to confiscate shadow’s laptop if he’s misbehaving. shadow despises him but he’s doing all of hyrule a great favor.
-doesn’t safeguard a royal jewel so he’s kind of an outlier but it’s fine, everything’s fine, he doesn’t need a jewel to prove that he’s a good knight and no, he isn’t envious, no not even a tiny bit, why would anyone ask that,
-prefers long-reach weapons like pikes and halberds over swords/daggers
[all of the above-mentioned knights are collectively referred to as the cape squad by the links]
Arcy
-one of the castle chefs
-an ex-knight; had barely made it into full knighthood before receiving a career-ending injury
-decided to continue work at the castle as a chef so she could still be around friends + to provide for her daughter
-was in the same trainee battalion as artura for armored combat, so they’re old friends
-her daughter is adopted; keina is the biological daughter of a late friend of arcy’s who died from birth complications
-is actually still technically in reserve for the guard; in a state of emergency she’s tasked with aiding evacuation efforts
-she’s the most popular chef among the knights because she takes requests. there’s a weekly competition among battalions and the winning one gets to choose the weekend meals that she makes. it’s a good motivator, especially for the ones in training, and it also gets her friends in high places (:
Keina
(see above images)
-arcy’s adopted daughter
-she’s very sickly; she’s never gone beyond the gates of castle town and barely even leaves the castle grounds. the only time she’s been beyond castle town was when she fled the castle with arcy, and she was in extremely poor health the entire time.
-she’s friends with the links + erune; they’ll often visit her and bring her things from other towns (or in erune’s case, her hometown) so she can still experience new things
-has a lot of pen pals all over hyrule since she can’t leave her home to go see people- she gets like two dozen letters a week and it helps keep her busy
-very knowledgeable on a lot of different subjects! because she’s often home- and sometimes even bed-bound, she spends a lot of time reading and writing and will sometimes illustrate as well. she’d like to be some kind of professional scholar so she can still contribute even when her health prevents her from travel.
#four swords#four swords manga#link's dad#valensuela#artura#lucien#wes#selenas#arcy#keina#tagging under their individual names for archival purposes#my headcanons#(only partially but yknow)#anyway No More Link Content only these guys waiofklfafwaionkfa#in just a couple brief weeks i have come to love these people who were barely even part of the manga#anyway fanta and i are having fun dont @ me whdaiokndnkwa
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Well for mahiru its like you said mahiru was born to be a sacrifice because of how the ressurection is meant to take place so far from what we've seen (mirai and the first catastrophe) the ritual was triggered by the consumption of a noble vampire (mahiru and that one random ass vampire when mahiru possessed guren in nagoya) a seraph (yuu and juji most likely) and alot of humans (gurens blade was already full of human blood from trying to get to mahiru and when guren killed his comrads when he was being possessed
I think mahiru knew of the catastrophe coming because it was actually planned since tenri possessed by shikama is the one who gave mahiru all these plans with the threat of if not done he will kill shinoa (that part hurts alot btw) so i guess because in shikamas mind mahiru isnt really all that big a genius he didnt mind telling her especially since he kinda has to tell her specifically what to do and probably expected her just to die and turn into a demon losing her memories
The shikama cells could just be because they put shikama cells in every embryo and at that its just a luck of the draw type deal
Shinoa being the perfect vessel could just be (in my opinion which ive always said) is that shikama can use all his power while possessing shinoa after all kureto was able to keep up with tenri with restrained desire and a seraph which shikama doji stopped by just comanding mirai to stop (btw i miss those days where shikama was actually terrifying with that part able to stop something as powerful as a seraph with a single command) and while possessing kureto he dispatched 2 black demon weilders with ease but can at least be called relative to these two black demons
But while possessing shinoa he was toying around with a second progenitor that was amped up by hundreds of possibly noble calliber vampires and various body modification experiments as for why shinoas body is unbreakable it could be due to what saito/rigr said about his original body not being manifested so more than likely it means if shinoa was possessed for an extended period of time she likely would have changed shape and shikamas original body would now be physical rather than a ghost/spiritual but this is just an assumption and going off different media that has to do with possessions
Shinoas ability to raise her walls high isnt something unique to her as yuichiro seemes to know that trick too
I think what makes her walls so high and invulnerable is due to all the trauma mahiru imposed on her to the point shinoas so apathetic and possibly nihilistic that she doesnt really want anything so badly as itd make her walls weak and easy to get through
Again this is all just speculation but itd be awsome seeing kagami expand more on this actually intresting side of the ons femal cast
A mess of questions I am having about Shikama and the Hīragi family😵💫
Warning: As I said…a mess
Okay, I’ve been wondering this for quite some time but…what was actually the purpose of Mahiru’s birth?
I mean, she is the result of the experiment to birth hybrid human-demon children, but when you think that Tenri (possessed by Shikama) decided to put Asuramaru instead of Shikama inside of her, it’s quite unfair to compare her to Shinoa, because Mahiru was actually never meant to be Shikama’s vessel, right?
But then what is the purpose of still giving some of Shikama’s cells to her? To give her the ability of still being able to host him for some time nevertheless? But then Tenri (who hosted Shikama since becoming head of the clan) was able to host him without breaking and Kureto has the ability too (even though he struggled to keep control), although they apparently weren’t born from experiments unlike Shinoa and Mahiru, and so their blood relation to Shikama must be minimal (some ancestry with the first Hiiragi at most). Technically as long as someone has Hiiragi blood, Shikama possess can possess anyone right? So going back to my earlier question, what is the purpose of giving some of Shikama’s cells to a Hiiragi girl who would still be able to host him without them? By that logic, Shikama never even got a benefit for his plan from possessing Mahiru, and I assume, he never even intended to possess her, because it was actually Mahiru who decided to take him away from Shinoa and into herself, not Shikama, right? And also, why did Mahiru take Shikama inside her to begin with? The only thing he did is to speed up her degeneration and the only idea for a benefit I can come up with is that that allowed her to foresee the Apocalypse in either two ways; a psychic ability obtained from hosting Shikama, or Shikama himself told her about the Apocalypse. But if it’s the first one, then why is Shinoa not displaying this ability too? And if it’s the second one, is it not dumb for Shikama to give her this kind of useful information?
Additionally, she still struggled to maintain control of Shikama like Kureto, and got possessed from time to time back in Cat16, so those Shikama cells are pretty useless anyways right?
The other option for her birth reasons is that Mahiru was intended to be the sacrifice which would trigger the Apocalypse (as she herself stated). That’s why Shikama would tell her about it, but still it’s pretty risky to inform her about this as she might create a plan on her own to ruin his (which is what actually then happened)? Even more, this plan has some issues. Between creating a vessel for himself and creating a sacrifice for the apocalypse, wouldn’t be the first one more important to prioritise? I mean, if a sacrifice has to be a vampire with a curse to absorb Noya into themselves, there are other ways to create one like this? The success rate for a woman inseminated by Tenri to birth a successful human-demon child is low to begin with, so why waste one of your limited first experimental batches of embryos on creating a sacrifice rather than a vessel for himself? Nothing would ensure a vessel could be created anyways so the plan will be ruined (and let’s not even get into the part about what is the importance of a vessel if Shikama can ditch Shinoa in the blink of an eye whenever he feels like to).
Going back to the possession topic, I don’t understand why Shinoa is called the “perfect vessel”? I mean, Tenri was able to host Shikama for at least two decades so what is the difference with Shinoa? Besides, isn’t it too weird to call Shinoa the perfect vessel because of her ability to raise her walls? I mean, if she raises her walls, then Shikama cannot possess her, so actually Shinoa does not work vessel, because Shikama cannot use even her right (ignoring the fact that she got possessed later anyways)? While he was able to use Tenri, so he looked more like a perfect vessel to me than Shinoa. So is being a perfect vessel based on a criteria other than being able to host Shikama for a long time? Does that mean that even if Tenri was able to host him for over two decades, if Shikama tried to fully possess him (making him display yellow eyes, grow wings and all that like it happened to Shinoa…) then Tenri would break immediately?
But then we have this:
So even if Shinoa is able to grow wings and use Shikama’s scythe throwing ability, if Shikama can withstand the power of the sinful keys but his host body (Shinoa) actually can’t follow with him and would break as a result, then Shinoa is actually an imperfect vessel. I mean, if her body can’t withstand this, how is she even supposed to withstand hosting Shikama for an eternity and any outside force Shikama might have to fight against in the future (Idk, sinful keys, angels, etc.). So yeah, what makes Shinoa different from Tenri? Maybe it’s because Shinoa, other than her ability to raise walls, is able to hear demons, but I don’t really understand what does this have to do with determining whether she is a perfect vessel or not? What is the point of her having this psychic abilities if her body isn’t unbreakable? And how come Shikama based her suitability when she barely gave him any concrete evidence for it during the time he was her demon?
And since this a mess of questions, I’ll add another one to end this (well two): how was Shinoa able to be born with Shikama? I mean, all embryos have Tenri’s DNA and Shikama’s cells, but only one out of the many embryos will actually have Shikama as a demon inside I suppose? So then, did Shikama use that unexplained ability to be at two places at once, to “split himself into parts” and possess all the women and them move onto their embryos, or did he actually wait for all embryos/foetuses to die and only for one (Shinoa) to remain, and then Shikama went into that one while Shinoa’s mother was pregnant with her? But then we have to apply this same logic for Mahiru too; Asuramaru doesn’t have this ability to be at many places at once like Shikama, so how come he was able to possess so many women at once?
TDLR: I don’t understand what is the purpose of Mahiru in Shikama’s plan, why is Shinoa called a “perfect vessel”, how the girls were actually able to be born with demons inside of them, what is Shikama thinking, what is Kagami actually thinking, or that maybe I am stupid and I need someone to enlighten me.
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Everything is a lie. Everything. I don’t know what to belive anymore and I don’t trust anyone anymore. No matter what I do he’ll find a way to make it worse. He always goes for the gut where it’ll hurt. He knows I’ll think about it non stop it’ll eat away at me. He can say the worst things to me make me feel like I’m nothing but everyone sees me as an immature child and I’m always wrong. Just cause he said so. If i cant sit down with someone and have an “adult conversion” 10 mins after they just told me I was insane cause I had to go to a mental hospital for bpd and tell me I’m evil. Told me id never be anything never have any power threatened to put me on the street call the police on me. He said i have no friends. They were never mine they’re his. And he has the power to make them not like me. And now after i thought that things would be different this time it seems like its going to be the same. He controls the situation and i have no power and it wont take long until everyone thinks im in the wrong. And im not saying that i didnt do my fair share of bad things that culminated into where im at now but for the people i considered to be my closest friends here say that my actions are childish and immature when all I asked for is space and to stop being harassed and forced into conversation with someone who broke my heart and makes me feel worthless and tried to put me out on the street makes me feel like shit. Like I don’t matter. My feelings dont matter and they never will. And now I’m doubting everything positive that was said to me recently cause now I feel like they were all lies. But like he said they’re not my friends they never were. And I can’t help to think that if they never saw me again it wouldn’t change their lives at all. This isn’t what I wanted. I tried to fix it. I tried to forget all the things he said in the past tell my brain to forget that he didn’t mean it. But I couldn’t and over time I grew to resent him for how he made me feel. Get mad at me because I couldn’t get over that fact that he called me a horrible girlfriend and that if he saw me getting jumped he wouldn’t help me cause I didn’t believe that our friends jumped him because they clearly didnt. Im pretty sure if he had actually gotten jumped he wouldnt have went over to their house 4 days later and gotten drunk with them. And i mean like i said im not so dense to see that I did do some wrong things too. But I never actually tried to hurt his feelings and make him feel bad. I have to work on some anger issues I’m aware. Even though I feel like no one believes me I have been looking for another psychiatrist and therapist just want a specific one. And I feel like I should be comfortable with who I’m talking to and shouldn’t have to compromise on that. I know it’ll take some time to find what I’m looking for but it doesn’t mean I’m not looking. I want to get re medicated cause the meds I have now make me feel like shit. Like sometimes I feel like ima pass out other times I’m a zombie and anything in between. He brings up how they “used to work” and I remember the days he was talking about. I thought they worked too. But they didn’t stop the thoughts or the urges of what I wanted to do to myself they just made me numb I got so disconnected from everything and everyone that anyone who reached out to me I clung to them to stay sane. I know because of this I made some mistakes did some things I know I shouldn’t have done but I wasn’t trying to hurt him or be bad I just wanted to maintain one of the only friendships I had left back at home. But it doesn’t matter cause the friendship got lost all of them did. I don’t have friends back at home anymore not really. I have people that I disconnected from because my dissociative habits got the better of me and I spent most of my time back at home trying to remember what day it was and where the time went and what I was doing (which was nothing) trying so hard to cling to reality but end up cooped up in my room for weeks at a time only leaving it to go to work or the bathroom or eat. I’m not excusing my behavior but I could tell the meds were losing their placebo affect and we’re not meshing with my body. They told me this might happen but I was already bound to come back to memphis at this point and I thought that if I took what I needed when I was too deep in my emotions it would help a little but I was wrong if anything I think it made it worse cause they weren’t reacting well with my body and taking them irregularly can’t be any better. But I was still trying. Really hard. Trying to keep everything together keep my emotions in check because it got to the point where I didn’t feel comfortable expressing myself or my emotions to him. If i wasn’t happy it made him mad. But it’s hard when everything in your brain is pushing you to feel your emotions so strong and even when I tried my hardest I would still be really mad and upset over the words he said to me and I couldn’t forget them. Those words cut so deep that it changed how I felt and so my actions became synonymous. I started to act colder because I was hurt and I felt like he didn’t deserve for me to be sweet or nice because he never understood how much he hurt me everytime. I can’t get over hearing those things be said to me by someone I loved and get over it in 10 mins when he’s ready talk and forget it ever happened and change nothing. I deserve to be able to talk about things when I’m ready and I shouldn’t be forced to or made to feel like a child because it’s not on his terms. Just because he said sorry. I remember when he told me that when I said I’m sorry it didn’t mean shit. And the part that fucks me up the most is that no one told me this in person. They talked about it behind my back but to my face they tell me I’m strong and I’m doing the right thing for me and I shouldn’t have to talk to him if I don’t want to and I deserve my space. Why am I immature? Is it because I took everthing in the house that was mine and put it in the back room so i could look after my things because i was afraid they’d be thrown out? That i sleep on the floor for the moment cause i dont want him to use the fact that i slept in his bed aginst me? Because he told me that they were his property and I can’t sleep in it. That I don’t feel comfortable enough to inhabit another room besides in the very back because he’s made points to tell me that this is “his house ” and give me ultimatums threating to kick me out because I wasn’t here to put my name on the lease so he has the power to (something he told me id never have) even though I pay to live here too but I’ve never truly felt like i was apart of this house no matter how much I tried to decorate and make it feel like our home but it never was mine the whole time I felt like I was paying him to live here not the landlord. Is it because when he told me to pack up my dollar tree shit and get out i took him seriously? Is it because i burned pictures of us and gifts because it was too hard to look at and be reminded of how far my relationship had fallen? By no means does this scenario alone make me want to kill myself but it adds the notion that I believe I am a burden that no one truly wishes to deal with which does make me want to end this sad life i live. He publicly tries to push my buttons make me seen crazy to people. Some people believe him. Through everything the thing that hurts my feelings the most is that everyone still talks to him. If someone treated my friends like this i wouldnt talk to them invite them places when i know they are mentally manipulating and abusing my friend. His feelings and inclusion means more than me and my feelings. He can harrass me in the streets at bars convince people to not talk to me but when he is screaming in my face to the point where he needs to be physically pulled away because I didn’t want to talk to him it’s still my fault. The cops said so too. Tried to get a restraining order and I can’t. Cause even the cops take his side. And my friends were there witnessed it and just pretend like nothing happened or do nothing. I wouldn’t be friends with someone who treated my friends like that so cruelly. I don’t talk to people that my friends have issues with. The most superficial and petty reasons why they would be hurt if i even said hi. And i know they would never say it but i would hurt their feelings. So why cant i be hurt by the fact that no one stopped talking to him. When they see how he treats me. I do what i do for them out of respect and support but they can’t do the same when I’m clearly being harassed. she died i always said it should have been me. Everyone liked her better. She was better than me. Im just a knockoff. If she were still alive my niece and nephew would still be together and my nephew wouldnt be getting abused regularly with us not being able to do anything about it cause the court decided that his asshole sperm donor has more paternal rights than his family who raised him but this pimple on the asscrack of socieity who was never in his life can swoop in and literally snatch him out of school and move him away and we only get to see him 1 weekend out of the month. That 3 days out of the whole fucking month that he doesnt get beat. He has anxiety attacks. Hes 6. When he realizes he has to go back to his “dad” he starts hyperventilating and we have to try to calm him down so he can breathe. I can already tell hes gonna grow up with issues and it breaks my heart that he might grow up to be anything like me in that regard. Meanwhile my niece has had her only immediate family cruelly taken from her by snakes in people skin. Her father was never in her life either. I fear that soon mine won’t be either. My dad won’t tell me everything even though I tell him to tell me I know he holds some stuff back. I think the cancer is spreading and all I think about is how long left I have with him. My grandmother is in the stages of dementia. Soon she won’t remember me I’ll lose the last grandparent I have but not from death. When I was still in the relationship he would tell me I bring home burdens that weigh him down. But he says sorry so I shouldn’t believe the nasty things he says even though he’s said them more than once on different occasions. I just feel so lied to It wouldn’t matter. It doesnt matter. I don’t matter. Honestly I don’t think i ever did But I have to do this I have to stay strong for her. She left me 2 children to take care of. A part of her and I’ll be damned if I fuck it up. I can fuck up my life but not theirs
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Mack The Knife|Chapter 1|Calandra
“Hey! Hey Callie!“
For someone in so dire a situation, Shin’s mood seemed excellent, or at the very least she was excellent at faking it. With how casual her wave was as she headed towards her pal, it really may have felt like she was just enjoying a nice stroll through the small village. Such excellent weather, after all. And such nice scenery.
Calandra’s choice of it had been the duck pond, nicely central, just behind the cottages where they had all made their homes by now, and Shin, having just returned from her dinner (lacklustre as always, in this place), had seen that choice and decided to join her in it.
The smaller girl turned upon her call, only slightly, only enough to see who it was approaching her, and after confirming it to be the dancer, gave that small, soft smile, more like velvet used to smother than to soothe, which Shin took as an invitation, or at least not an open rejection of her company. She covered the distance between them in large strides, and came to a stop next to Calandra.
“Pretty wild stuff, huh? That whole Fool business.”
Her hands were in her pockets, her eyes on the pond in front of them, and her light laugh on her lips. Even with the acknowledgement of their situation, it seemed like it stopped at acknowledging that things had indeed happened, stopping short of taking them seriously.
“How long do ya think they can keep it goin, huh? HPA, I mean. This has gotta be on them, right? Some kinda prank? Or experiment?”
She looked at Calandra, now, out of the corner of her eye. There was amusement sparkling in it, met with Calandra’s usual level of it, but where Shin was merely making warm conversation, Calandra’s words held a coldness to them not directed towards the dancer, but at any who would be in her way- at this point, the so fittingly named Fool.
“Ah, it hardly matters, does it?”
Her voice was a whisper, and a purr. Shin’s smile widened and warmed with affection hearing that tone, the smoky mystery belonging in one of her beloved noirs. Little did she know what lay beneath. But she would learn, and soon.
“My family will not stand for it, and upon their wish, this will all be over. All that stands in their way is knowledge of our fate, my dearest Shin. And that is soon to follow.”
So much revealed so simply. And yet, nothing at all. But Shin didn’t seem to mind. It wasn’t information she was after, just conversation. And so instead of other follow up questions, all she gave was a low whistle.
“They must be pretty important, eh? Ya family.”
It wasn’t much of a serious question, and she wasn’t interested in knowing. That was, until she got an answer to it.
“Oh, the Jeggare’s have power of this world and the other. Granted by our dark lord, and by our own machinations.”
Calandra returned her look, now, with as much genuine amusement.
“We run our family business well, Shin, my dear, under my guidance as consigliere. Such guidance that it was deemed deserving of a title.”
Shin froze before the last words had even left her mouth. Her posture, her smile, everything. The moment the word “consigliere” was mentioned, she froze in place, and only unfroze a few moments after Calandra had finished talking, to blink in confusion, to have her smile fall, to struggle visibly with this new information.
“Wait…. Wait…… Hold up….”
A smaller laugh fell from her lips, but one lacking in humor or even the attempt to fake it.
“Thought I heard ya say ya were a…. what was it…. Consigliere, yeah? Like in the movies or….”
She gestured, trying to grasp something invisible in front of her from the looks of it.
“Ya know. Like, in mafia stuff. Not that I’m sayin ya would be part of that. Cause obviously that’d just be impossible, right?”
Her tone wasn’t as light as her choice of words. In fact, it was growing heavier by the second, until her next words, in another world an admittance of insecurity, a desperate search for agreement, sounded more like a threat, a warning against receiving anything but that agreement.
“Right, Callie?”
There was a moment of silence between them, or maybe a minute, it was hard to tell. Then, finally, it broke with Calandra’s simple:
“Oh, dearest Shin…. I thought you had already figured that out, at least?”
And, just like that, it would never be fixed again.
“You’re WHAT?”
The ducks in the pond flapped their wings, loudly declaring their displeasure at Shin’s suddenly loud and not so amused anymore voice.
The dancer herself hardly cared. She had turned to face Calandra head on, fists balled at her sides, her face turned from one of warmth and affection to a grimace of disgust and anger.
“Your family, who you’re workin for- they’re gangsters? The fuckin mafia?!”
This was a level of disgust rarely seen from her. She recoiled, physically, from the girl who moments before had been her friend. Recoiled like one would from a snake. A particularly ugly one.
Calandra watched on in silence as Shin came to terms with the information she had just received, which the dancer did loudly. Loud enough to draw some eyes to them, but she hardly seemed to care.
“The thievin, murderin, kidnappin, god fuckin forsaken MAFIA?! Those fuckin MONSTERS??!”
It was at this point that Calandra’s own smile faltered and fell, her pretty face now in a deep frown, golden eyes sending Shin a glare of the kind that would’ve made the blood freeze in the veins of any human being with less fire in them than her.
“And who are you….”
Her voice wasn’t louder than before, but much colder, and even Shin was stopped momentarily in her rage when met with one that matched hers.
“….To judge me? To judge your saviors? We’ve been kidnapped, fucking kidnapped, and yet you whine and complain about your betters? Complain like a baby. Why, Shin I did not take you for such a sanctimonious fuck!”
The insult, fired with the precision off a poison dart, seemed to bounce right off of Shin’s armor of righteous rage (and obliviousness), but the rest of it did not, and was commented with a disbelieving snort.
“Fuckin saviours? Well sign me up for fuckin damnation if that’s your choice a saviours, then. Man, I thought ya were just really into your style, ya know, dark and gothy and shit, but essentially harmless. Like it’s SUPPOSED ta be! Turns out ya actually are just a fuckin killer bitch! Just a fuckin monster!”
Calandra, now facing Shin head on as well, didn’t skip a beat to reply.
“I am not a monster for doing as my family has done since your own ancestors were living in thatched roof huts!”
“But you are! You ARE, Callie!! Who gives a SHIT how long your family’s been up ta terrible things or how loyal ya think you’re bein, if ya were actually a person worth givin two SHITS about ya would’ve told em off! You woulda left! You woulda done ANYTHIN but WORK for em, what the fuck is WRONG with ya?!”
She was yelling, now, yelling and gesturing, face red with rage. Calandra’s own rage had burned cold until now, but the fire of the dancer seemed to jump over to her, and she responded in kind, though her gestures were more the restrained kind.
“The fuck is wrong with YOU, that you think disloyalty a virtue?! They’ve given me everything! Everything I’ve ever had! I have measured and weighed and NOTHING, NOTHING I could be doing is better than doing my lineage proud!! [May the crows eat your fucking eyes, you bitch! May they fucking scratch them out of your skull while demons feast on your guts!]”
She continued in this manner, but Shin was not to be outyelled, not when she had only just started. If there was one thing she was practiced in (aside from the many, many things she was), it was arguments.
“Do ya hear yaself, like, when ya talk?! The FUCK??! Ya standin here, right now, tellin me that the best thing ya could be doin with ya life is... is murder, and theft, and drug trafficking or whatever the fuck else your familys gotten up to?? doesnt matter how related they are to ya, its WRONG, wrong dont become right just cause its ya pa who does it!”
She took a step back, pushed back her hair, but what looked like a retreat was barely her getting enough breath to continue her assault, now with a new angle, a new realization.
“Cant fuckin believe- and ya live with Natsume, too?? im tellin ya if ya lay one of ya filthy fingers on her, touch even one hair on her head, ill fuckin gut ya like the cops ought ta have done years ago!"
With Calandra yelling her own threats in Italian, and Shin returning the favour in Japanese, the two had drawn the attention of a small audience, but neither of them seemed to care overly much. This was a battle between two parties who weren’t used to losing, and much less likely to accept such loss. More importantly, two parties who had managed to enrage each other to such a point that their argument wasn’t a discussion of ethics. It was a shouting match, just yelling out their anger at each other, and neither would back down.
Finally, it was Calandra who returned to actual arguing, instead of just yelling. But it wasn’t a big step back.
"Ignorant oaf! I don't dirty my hands with the work of soldiers! I make and break kings! And you're just a failed dancer, shall I ask a cousin of mine to break your other leg so you can always be on your high horse? And you can't let Natsume dear make her own choices, can you? Keep her in your shadow forever, and don't let her dance away from you! At least she still can!"
It was this, at last, that made Shin fall silent, her expression changing from outright rage to something else. Whatever it was: shock, disbelief, genuine hurt, it vanished as soon as it had come, turning back into rage. A colder, quieter rage that came with trembling, but not words. She stood straighter than before, her fists balled at her sides, and she glared. Glared silently at her former friend. Whichever part of what Calandra said had done it, she was officially at a loss for words. A chance that Calandra used, her voice now at a normal talking level again. The fire was extinguished, the ice had returned to both of them.
"I needn't hex you. You've failed enough already, haven't you dear?"
What happened next, happened too fast to comprehend while it was. It could only ever be looked back upon later, and even then with surprise.
One moment, things seemed to cool down considerably. The audience may wish, perhaps, that this was all there would be to it, that they would just walk away, and that the tension in the air may not snap after all. But it did, because in the next moment, Calandra’s head flew to the side in a flurry of black hair, the sudden force of impact enough to make her stumble and fall. Shin’s fist, formerly so tightly curled at her side, was the source of that impact- it was clear to see she’d thrown punches before, and that this was one that hurt.
It was hard to believe how quickly things had escalated, how little it had taken to get to this point, but Shin had punched her former friend straight in the face, and from the looks of it she had not been pulling her punches.
As quickly as it had happened it was over, and Shin glared down on Calandra, who was holding her cheek. It was hard to tell whether she was surprised with her hair covering her face as it was, but she didn’t move, and neither did Shin. The world seemed to hold its breath.
Shin was the one to move first, and it was in curt, tense movements. One finger pointing at Calandra, jabbing in her direction to underline her words, her tremble had moved from her body into her voice. Was it right to call the anger in it barely restrained anymore, when she had shown absolutely no restraint during the entire conversation in the first place?
“Fuck. You. I WILL get better! I WILL!! STAY….”
She had gotten back to yelling, and took a moment to steady herself before continuing at a more normal volume, but not a less enraged one.
“…Stay the FUCK away from me and Natsume, you fucking piece of FILTH.”
And with that, she just turned and left, with the same long strides that had gotten her here, fists still balled and blood on her knuckles, a storm on the move that none of those watching dared approach.
Yet, this was only the beginning of the violence that was yet to come.
#ic#calandra jeggare#here i summed things up for yall#just so youre not surprised when they suddenly Hate Each Other
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in which i react to the chatzy because replies are hard:
Edward and Isabella try to solve their Jessica Jones dilemma
yah the dilemma being that she sEES THROUGH YO SHIT U 2
it goes on like this for a while.
“Honestly, Jessica Jones has been irritating me for weeks.”
you’ve talked to her twice. and texted once. AND U INITIATED 2/3 OUT OF THESE
There was nothing Edward hated more than getting struck in the face.
sucks to sucks snek. ALSO U R SO MELODRAMATIC SHE DIDNT EVEN HIT YOU HARD OMG SHE COULD LITERALLY CAVE IN YOUR SKULL IF SHE WANTED TO U GOT OFF LUCKY OKAY
“But soon you won’t have to. I can promise you that much.”
do u wanna die edward nygma. do u.
Jessica Jones had crossed a line.
gurl. jessica jones crosses lines like its her goddamn job
She had listened to her drunken ramblings, and offered her help, and politely asked her to stay out of their lives.
pulling out receipts: “Oh, I’m so glad I could help you. Do me a favor and please stop texting Edward“ -- such polite sarcasm. write the next miss manners ok. also, u sat down next to her and ur offer of help only came after you insulted her a lot.
This wasn’t his fault, after all.
kilgrave made him do it
she didn’t want the other woman dead.
“Well, that’s your choice. Drink yourself to death.” r u sure isabella u seem confused
If he proposed murder, she had another idea up her sleeve, but she wanted him to lead.
just casually accepting that her boyfriend might propose murder. BUT JESS IS THE CRAZY ONE OKAY. also, isabella, thought u werent a sidekick
I need more information on her before I can start plotting something. She can’t get away with hitting me, or toying with our relationship though
from cheesy bond villain to five year old to ‘casually insisting we’re in a relationship even tho we never talked about it’ -- the faces of edward snekma
No one was allowed to hit him like that. No one was allowed to publicly embarrass him.
everyone needs 2 hit you okay. how bout u calm down. it was an empty park in the middle of the night, public only by technicality
Where Edward’s rage was fiery, and his every word burned with anger, Isabella’s fury was glacial and restrained.
i have nothing funny to say here, this is just a beautiful image
“She has shared a lot with me over these past few weeks. I know about her past.”
R U FUCKING KIDDING ME ISABELLA JUST HO W DARE IM S CREAMING I CANNOT HANDLE THIS WAHT THE ACTUAL FUCK
bonus:
cold and triumphant.
bitch u aint won nothing yet. unless u triumphant that u a bitch
despite his anger for Jessica, he felt a warm fondness for the woman in front of him. She was a force. Intelligent – enough to keep up with him but not quite at his level. He respected and adored that. She was gorgeous as well.
when u wanna plot revenge but YOUR GF IS JUST SO DAMN HOT
“Isabella, do tell me what she’s shared.”
did u intentionally phrase this as a COMMAND and not a QUESTION because I’M SHOOK
She wanted to knock Jessica Jones off her moral pedestal, and show the other woman that she had chosen this. She had chosen Edward.
MORAL PEDESTAL HAVE YOU EVER MET JESSICA JONES SHE IS THE HUMAN EQUIVALENT OF A GARBAGE CAN, SHE TAKES BRIBES, BREAKS INTO PEOPLE’S HOUSES, AND HATES BUBBLES. WHAT KIND OF MORAL PEDESTAL IS THAT. HER MORAL PEDESTAL IS A WHISKEY BOTTLE
also uh huh sure u did bby u keep telling urself that this is allll ur choice
Killing the guy who had hurt her had clearly damaged her
jessica was damaged long before that shit, u have no idea
“Well, she’s a murderer”
okay u have some idea ALSO WTF HOW DARE. YOU’RE JUST GONNA TAKE THIS AND DROP IT IN LIKE YOU’RE MENTIONING THE WEATHER?? WELL, IT’S SNOWING. WELL, DON’T FORGET TO PICK UP THE MILK. WELL, SHE’’S A MURDERER. AND ALL WHILE SITTING ACROSS FROM YOUR ACTUAL MURDERER. WHO YOU LIVE WITH.
and then u take a sip of tea, i fucking did u just
i can see why ed likes u UR BOTH SO EXTRA. SNEKTRA.
back up:
Isabella met Edward’s gaze and couldn’t remember what it had been like to hate him in that all-consuming, festering, corrosive way. Now, all of her rage was directed at the woman who had dared to insult her by suggesting that she’d been controlled, who had the audacity to hit him.
had the goddamn balls to hit him more like. also, look at how isabella is aware that she’s transferred her anger from ed to jessica, but doesn’t see this aS AN ISSUE. bc when you have to twist your moral viewpoint enough to see your abuser/murderer as the love of your life, everyone else who doesnt accept that viewpoint becomes the enemy
“I think that’s why she turned to alcohol. His death really weighs on her conscience. She was lying on the sidewalk, drunk, when I last saw her.” She wrinkled her nose in disgust. “I think she’s homeless, too, which may come in handy.”
listen we dont talk about jessica jones’ alcoholism okay we DONT. especially when our name is hissabella. & fuck u, she was tired ok. ALSO SHE HAS A HOTEL ROOM OKAY SHE ISNT TOTALLY HOMELESS
A murderer she said. Well, there was tons of things he could do to her now. Tons of games and traps he could set up with that theme in mind. She thought she was all high and mighty but she killed just as Edward had. She wasn’t so different from him at all.
u strangled your girlfriend, chopped her up, murdered the guy who caught you burying the body, and before all that you murdered your girlfriends previous boyfriend bc u thought u were a white knight.
jessica killed her literal stalker/abuser because he was more dangerous alive than dead and still feels haunted by it every day. she spent weeks avoiding that exact option. totally the same
Edward was making a life for himself, he was moving on and redeeming himself to society and then she came with her high morals and smacked him right in the face with it. Now it was coming out that she was a hypocrite.
u were thinking about killing a woman who bruised you two minutes ago. also, you killed a woman and framed the joker, like yeah, totes reformed. rather be a hypocrite than DELUSIONAL. high morals omg, she just asked u not to be a dickhole to the woman u murdered
“Oh, dear.” He purred.
jfc edward i cant with u
“Oh, did he ever want to torture her for believing she was better than he was... She couldn’t better herself and be a productive member of society. *
how do u start a paragraph wanting to torture someone and end it believing that you are a better asset to society omfg
“Isabella… I can’t believe people just tell you all of this. God you’re… incredible. I bet that you can get information from anyone you please! With ease.” What an asset she would be to the Riddler.
and to this diiiiick (im so sorry, but its sami & sophies fault for getting shippy in the middle of THIS. MURDER-PLANNING & CHILL JFC.
Watching Edward think was a genuine privilege, and Isabella smiled as he took in her information.
r u goddamn serious right now, o h m y g o d
that Isabella was stupid and easily manipulated, and controlled
jessica has said exactly none of these things.
There was a new cadence when Edward spoke, a chilling note that she had never heard before, and it sent a pleasant shiver down Isabella’s spine.
ew. ick. BAD TOUCH.
He was right, of course. Jessica Jones was a hypocrite, projecting her hatred of the man who had hurt onto Edward. They were nothing alike.
right. nothing. not at all. except that you’re both victims of horrific traumas who got the chance to face down their abusers and who feel haunted by memories and cant get in cars, sure.
“Hypocrisy, thy name is Jessica Jones,” Isabella replied, smiling.
y r u like this
“Oh my, thank you, Edward,” she said, unable to keep the happiness out of her tone.
THIS IS A MURDER PLOT NOT A 1950S SITCOM
I can get more information from Jessica, but I would have to lie about you. I’m sorry.
i just. i cant. how did u go from pointing a gun at this man to apologizing for potentially lying about him in the future in order to help him get revenge on another woman who did basically nothing to you???
Reaching after she did and taking her hand. He saw her reaching hers out as an invitation for Ed to hold hers.
holding hands, talking about revenge, the perfect couple
It would be beneficial for us if she is to believe we are not in cahoots at all. Give it a little time to cool off and then go to her – crying, preferably. It would be easier to work against her if she trusts you.
firstly, ed becomes a cartoon western villain at the beginning of this sentence. also COMMAND, COMMAND, COMMAND. but sure isabella, ur in total control here, as you let ed tell you every little thing to do
You said this man was terrible to her? Probably an abuser? Dig up information on what he was like by speaking to her. I’ll try and find files on him or any information at all, really. I want to get his voice down pact. A perfect imitation.
NO NO NO NON NO NO NO NO ONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
DO NOT DO THAT DO NOT HOW I JUST I HAVE ACTUAL PHYSICAL PAIN READING THIS BIT
He smiled, almost cruelly at what he had in mind. They could bring this man back to life in her memory and torment her easily with him. Rub who she had killed right in her face so she knew that she was not the moral woman she wanted to believe she was. So she was reminded by what she had done.
ALMOST CRUELLY. ALMOST. BECAUSE THIS ISN’T THE HELL JESSICA ALREADY GODDAMN LIVES THROUGH EVERY GODDAMN DAY. L O L. ALMOST.
They were together on this. Holding Edward’s hand like the affirmation that Jessica hadn’t broken them, the way she’d planned to.
but he’s taking the lead, bc hes cute when hes being a patriarchal bastard. also, ‘planned’ gives jessica jones way too much credit. her plans suck way worse than this.
judged Edward to some insane moral standard that didn’t even allow him to defend himself.
YOU MEAN THE MORAL STANDARD OF DONT KILL YOUR EX GIRLFRIEND AND MAKE HER FEEL LIKE YOU RUINED HER LIFE ONCE UPON A TIME??
As she thought of all the chances she’d given that woman, every offer to help her, Isabella felt the righteous anger freezing her veins again.
again. u met twice. talked 3 times.
It would be a fascinating character study. A chance to observe Jessica’s reactions to emotional stimuli in a controlled environment.
what the ever loving fuck isabella when the hell did you fall this far YOU’RE NOT TALKING ABOUT OBSERVING AN EXPERIMENT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT DESTROYING A WOMAN’S LIFE FOR THE LOLZ
And Isabella was a very adept liar, and she didn’t often get to put that skill into practice.
UR ALSO A VERY ADEPT SNEK hissabella. krisssssten
say that I’ve cut you off.” She held his hand a little tighter when she spoke, to reassure him that she wouldn’t dream of doing that.
gag. look how desperate she is -- trying to convince him or herself hmmm?
“We can make her think he’s come back from the dead! I’m proof that’s possible, after all.”
have i mentioned that i fucking h8 u omg
“How are you so perfect?”
at this point, the chatzy devolves into a shippy shippy shipfest. they stop plotting like 80s villains and start acting like a 50s couple. they decide to move in, but isabellas sleeping in the guest room, wink-wink. and then there’s these two bits:
Was he not reformed?
… He would do this one thing. Torture Jessica, then he’d go back to the normal, bland life he had been fighting for, for five years.
you sound thrilled about that idea edward.
How had she ever thought she could live without Edward? She had been pieces of two people, disconnected and fragmented, but orbiting her life around him was pulling her together again.
when isabella first got to starcity, she was alllll about making a life for HER. a life outside of what ed & oswald & the court did to her. and now, she’s filled the holes in herself with bits of him and let him take over her whole life
they were both trying so hard to make new lives, but the second this old flame came back, they threw themselves on the fire
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Fateful night: a young woman is dead, her Tinder date charged with murder
New Zealand tourist Warriena Wright met up with Gable Tostee in fun-loving Surfers Paradise. A few hours later she plunged 14 storeys to her death
Warriena Wright was visiting the Gold Coast in Australia when she matched on Tinder with Gable Tostee. They met up in the popular tourist nightspot of Surfers Paradise on a Thursday night and bought a six-pack of beer after spending a few minutes in a pub.
By the end of the date Wright was dead, having plunged 14 storeys from the balcony of Tostees apartment, and two years later he is on trial in Queenslands supreme court charged with her murder.
The case centres around a 199-minute mobile recording made by Tostee which captured the fractious and ultimately fatal course of the pairs evening together, including the moment Wright fell to her death.
It is the key piece of evidence in the supreme court trial of Tostee, 30, who was standing on the other side of a locked glass door the moment Wright fell.
And the recording is cited by the crown as demonstration of his guilt, and by the defence as vindication of his innocence.
The pair had met that night, 7 August 2014, after making contact via Tinder a week earlier.
Wright, 26, from New Zealand, was in Australia to attend a friends wedding as part of a two-week vacation that included skydiving and a room in a hotel in Surfers Paradise, near where Tostee lived.
CCTV shown to the court captured their meeting on Cavill Avenue in Surfers Paradise, where they exchanged a hug.
They went to a pub but stayed only a few minutes before deciding to head back to Tostees apartment nearby, stopping at a bottle shop to buy a six-pack of beer.
Inside the apartment, Tostee says they later had sex in his bed.
Warriena Wright and Gable Tostee pose for photos together on the balcony of his 14th floor Surfers Paradise apartment. Photograph: Supplied
They then went out to his balcony where they posed for photos together, Wright pulling faces, Tostee standing beside her bare-chested.
Wrights last contact with family was a Facebook message to a sister, in which she reports having found a man who was the Australian answer to Sam Winchester, the Supernatural TV actor.
At 1am on 8 October, unbeknown to Wright, Tostee pressed record on a mobile phone in his pocket. He wouldnt turn it off until 199 minutes later. By then Wright was dead.
Tostee, having left the building via a basement carpark but still apparently unaware of her fate as police milled around the building, had called his father who urged him to contact a leading criminal lawyer. He had then eaten a pizza.
The crown case is that Tostee, who had locked Wright out on the balcony after their night had deteriorated into verbal and physical altercations, had left Wright in such a state of fear and intimidation that she felt compelled to flee.
When Wrights attempt to climb down from the balcony went horribly awry, Tostee was thus responsible for her death, the prosecution contends.
The prosecutor, Glen Cash, told the court in his opening address that at the very least Tostee meant to cause Wright grievous bodily harm, causing her to flee, resulting in her death.
Cash said Tostees recording captured a moment where sounds were consistent with him choking or strangling Wright. She pleaded to be allowed to go home before repeatedly screaming no as he shoved her on to the balcony and shut the door.
Defence lawyers for Tostee, who has pleaded not guilty, deny any attempt by Tostee to strangle Wright.
His barrister, Saul Holt, has told the court that Tostee used reasonable force to subdue Wright, who had grown increasingly erratic while drinking heavily. She had taken to randomly, with no apparent provocation, hitting Tostee, threatening violence, throwing ornamental rocks one of his interior decorations at his head and hitting him with the clamp of his telescope.
Holt argued that Tostee, after tackling Wright to the floor and forcing her on to the balcony, put them both in a position of safety by shutting the door.
Tostee was entitled to lock the door on someone who was violent and disorderly, Holt submitted.
Gable Tostee arrives at the supreme court in Brisbane on Friday. Photograph: Dan Peled/AAP
She is outside, he is inside and he has caused a locked door to be between the two of them, Holt told the court.
What happened in this case is nothing like murder or manslaughter. It doesnt fit.
Holt said the fact that the critical part of the evening was recorded on Tostees phone meant there was very little in dispute between the crown and the defence apart from the allegation about choking her, which was in absolute dispute, and his culpability for her death.
The audio recording, which was discovered by police on a Sony Xperia phone they found in Tostees fathers car, has been released by the court.
It captures an early morning conversation awkwardly traversing topics from architecture to religion, as James Blunt and Kanye West play in the background.
The talk is punctuated by Tostees occasional cries of Ow! as Wright punches him. He tells her to chill and have a drink.
You love beating me up like a Kiwi, Tostee says. Wright tells him she beats people up all the time.
Tostee quips that he will end up looking like a piece of tenderised meat if she keeps hitting him.
She asks him if he can tell her mother shes not a loser. She talks about her dog that died, her belief in justice and the afterlife.
Tostee says: We die. Thats it. Throw me off the balcony. He talks of three things that are really good on this Earth: food, sleep and sex.
He says there are no gods. She says: Ive seen stuff though.
Wright tells him: I am going to go vampire on your arse.
Tostee yells Ow! again. Hes still laughing. Wrights speech starts to lose its coherence. She shouts Forrest Gump repeatedly, then Im a ninja its not funny. More cries of Ow! from Tostee.
She goes to leave and he asks her if she wants him to walk her back to her apartment. The music stops and Wright asks where her belongings are. Tostee offers to call her mobile phone. She accuses Tostee of stealing her phone and handbag and an argument breaks out.
Wheres my fucking shit? I will fucking destroy your jaw. Its not fucking funny. Im going to call the police.
Tostee says: I should have never given you so much to drink. I thought we were going to have fun. I dont deserve this shit. Im a nice fucking guy.
Tostee finds her phone and calm returns. Wright says she has money in NZ and gets taken advantage of.
Tostee asks her: Do you even remember what you were doing to me half an hour ago? You were beating me up for no reason. You thought it was funny.
He suggests she sit down for a second so we can discuss.
Ive met some weird people off Tinder. Im the most tolerant person in the world, he said.
Wright says she would help anyone in need. Tostee says shes a bit violent though.
Wright talks about taking a look out the window, and Tostee tells her: Dont jump off or anything.
Wright shrieks help in a mock high-pitched voice, adding that shes only joking. Tostee tells her the men in white coats are coming.
Youre kind of mental, but in a really cute way, he tells her.
Wright goes to the bathroom and Tostee whispers into his phone: God help me. Shit.
Wright returns. Slurring her words, she begins whispering to Tostee about Sam, later exhorting him to: Bow down to Sam.
He yells Ouch then Ill bow down.
That signals Tostees apparent switch from annoyance to anger.
He tells her: Thats more than enough. Youve worn out your welcome. Youre not my kind of girl. You have to leave.
The balcony of Gable Tostees 14th floor Surfers Paradise apartment. Photograph: Dan Peled/AAP
In Tostees account, his tackling of Wright to the floor of the apartment follows her striking him with a telescope.
The prosecution claims that is when the sound consistent with Tostee choking Wright can be heard, which he denies.
You are lucky I havent chucked you off my balcony, you goddamn psycho little bitch, he says.
Who the fuck do you think I am? Yeah, do your muay thai now.
Wright, her mouth sounding muffled, says he is sexist.
Im the one whos injured. You dont have a goddamn scratch on you, Tostee says.
I thought you were just playing around. But youre psycho. Goddamn psycho.
Im going to let you go, Im going to walk you out of this apartment just the way you are. Youre not going to collect any of your belongings or anything, youre just going to walk out and Im going to slam the door on you. You understand? If you try and pull anything Ill knock you out. Ill knock you the fuck out.
Tostee tells Wright to get up.
Im sorry, Wright says.
I dont care. Get up, Tostee says.
Tostee, apparently still restraining Wright, tells her over and over: You dont understand do you?
You think you can hit me and I just fall down like in the movies?
Wright tells him repeatedly to Let go.
Tostee: Who the fuck do you think you are?
Wright: No, no, no, no
Tostee: You trying to kill me, huh? Whyd you try and hit me with that, huh?
Wright is screaming no over and over again.
This is all on recording you know. Its all being recorded, Tostee says.
Wright pleads: Just let me go home.
Tostee says: I would but youve been a bad girl.
The glass door clicks shut and Wrights screams fade. Tostee sighs. Less than 20 seconds pass when Wright screams as she slips from the balcony rail.
Tostees barrister, Holt, in his opening address on Monday, told the jury the moment when the screaming Wright was being locked on the balcony was a horrible one to listen to because you know what comes next.
But the recording contained a sequence of events that would bear out his clients innocence of her murder, Holt argued.
It really is, all in the recording, he said.
The trial continues.
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Fateful night: a young woman is dead, her Tinder date charged with murder
New Zealand tourist Warriena Wright met up with Gable Tostee in fun-loving Surfers Paradise. A few hours later she plunged 14 storeys to her death
Warriena Wright was visiting the Gold Coast in Australia when she matched on Tinder with Gable Tostee. They met up in the popular tourist nightspot of Surfers Paradise on a Thursday night and bought a six-pack of beer after spending a few minutes in a pub.
By the end of the date Wright was dead, having plunged 14 storeys from the balcony of Tostees apartment, and two years later he is on trial in Queenslands supreme court charged with her murder.
The case centres around a 199-minute mobile recording made by Tostee which captured the fractious and ultimately fatal course of the pairs evening together, including the moment Wright fell to her death.
It is the key piece of evidence in the supreme court trial of Tostee, 30, who was standing on the other side of a locked glass door the moment Wright fell.
And the recording is cited by the crown as demonstration of his guilt, and by the defence as vindication of his innocence.
The pair had met that night, 7 August 2014, after making contact via Tinder a week earlier.
Wright, 26, from New Zealand, was in Australia to attend a friends wedding as part of a two-week vacation that included skydiving and a room in a hotel in Surfers Paradise, near where Tostee lived.
CCTV shown to the court captured their meeting on Cavill Avenue in Surfers Paradise, where they exchanged a hug.
They went to a pub but stayed only a few minutes before deciding to head back to Tostees apartment nearby, stopping at a bottle shop to buy a six-pack of beer.
Inside the apartment, Tostee says they later had sex in his bed.
Warriena Wright and Gable Tostee pose for photos together on the balcony of his 14th floor Surfers Paradise apartment. Photograph: Supplied
They then went out to his balcony where they posed for photos together, Wright pulling faces, Tostee standing beside her bare-chested.
Wrights last contact with family was a Facebook message to a sister, in which she reports having found a man who was the Australian answer to Sam Winchester, the Supernatural TV actor.
At 1am on 8 October, unbeknown to Wright, Tostee pressed record on a mobile phone in his pocket. He wouldnt turn it off until 199 minutes later. By then Wright was dead.
Tostee, having left the building via a basement carpark but still apparently unaware of her fate as police milled around the building, had called his father who urged him to contact a leading criminal lawyer. He had then eaten a pizza.
The crown case is that Tostee, who had locked Wright out on the balcony after their night had deteriorated into verbal and physical altercations, had left Wright in such a state of fear and intimidation that she felt compelled to flee.
When Wrights attempt to climb down from the balcony went horribly awry, Tostee was thus responsible for her death, the prosecution contends.
The prosecutor, Glen Cash, told the court in his opening address that at the very least Tostee meant to cause Wright grievous bodily harm, causing her to flee, resulting in her death.
Cash said Tostees recording captured a moment where sounds were consistent with him choking or strangling Wright. She pleaded to be allowed to go home before repeatedly screaming no as he shoved her on to the balcony and shut the door.
Defence lawyers for Tostee, who has pleaded not guilty, deny any attempt by Tostee to strangle Wright.
His barrister, Saul Holt, has told the court that Tostee used reasonable force to subdue Wright, who had grown increasingly erratic while drinking heavily. She had taken to randomly, with no apparent provocation, hitting Tostee, threatening violence, throwing ornamental rocks one of his interior decorations at his head and hitting him with the clamp of his telescope.
Holt argued that Tostee, after tackling Wright to the floor and forcing her on to the balcony, put them both in a position of safety by shutting the door.
Tostee was entitled to lock the door on someone who was violent and disorderly, Holt submitted.
Gable Tostee arrives at the supreme court in Brisbane on Friday. Photograph: Dan Peled/AAP
She is outside, he is inside and he has caused a locked door to be between the two of them, Holt told the court.
What happened in this case is nothing like murder or manslaughter. It doesnt fit.
Holt said the fact that the critical part of the evening was recorded on Tostees phone meant there was very little in dispute between the crown and the defence apart from the allegation about choking her, which was in absolute dispute, and his culpability for her death.
The audio recording, which was discovered by police on a Sony Xperia phone they found in Tostees fathers car, has been released by the court.
It captures an early morning conversation awkwardly traversing topics from architecture to religion, as James Blunt and Kanye West play in the background.
The talk is punctuated by Tostees occasional cries of Ow! as Wright punches him. He tells her to chill and have a drink.
You love beating me up like a Kiwi, Tostee says. Wright tells him she beats people up all the time.
Tostee quips that he will end up looking like a piece of tenderised meat if she keeps hitting him.
She asks him if he can tell her mother shes not a loser. She talks about her dog that died, her belief in justice and the afterlife.
Tostee says: We die. Thats it. Throw me off the balcony. He talks of three things that are really good on this Earth: food, sleep and sex.
He says there are no gods. She says: Ive seen stuff though.
Wright tells him: I am going to go vampire on your arse.
Tostee yells Ow! again. Hes still laughing. Wrights speech starts to lose its coherence. She shouts Forrest Gump repeatedly, then Im a ninja its not funny. More cries of Ow! from Tostee.
She goes to leave and he asks her if she wants him to walk her back to her apartment. The music stops and Wright asks where her belongings are. Tostee offers to call her mobile phone. She accuses Tostee of stealing her phone and handbag and an argument breaks out.
Wheres my fucking shit? I will fucking destroy your jaw. Its not fucking funny. Im going to call the police.
Tostee says: I should have never given you so much to drink. I thought we were going to have fun. I dont deserve this shit. Im a nice fucking guy.
Tostee finds her phone and calm returns. Wright says she has money in NZ and gets taken advantage of.
Tostee asks her: Do you even remember what you were doing to me half an hour ago? You were beating me up for no reason. You thought it was funny.
He suggests she sit down for a second so we can discuss.
Ive met some weird people off Tinder. Im the most tolerant person in the world, he said.
Wright says she would help anyone in need. Tostee says shes a bit violent though.
Wright talks about taking a look out the window, and Tostee tells her: Dont jump off or anything.
Wright shrieks help in a mock high-pitched voice, adding that shes only joking. Tostee tells her the men in white coats are coming.
Youre kind of mental, but in a really cute way, he tells her.
Wright goes to the bathroom and Tostee whispers into his phone: God help me. Shit.
Wright returns. Slurring her words, she begins whispering to Tostee about Sam, later exhorting him to: Bow down to Sam.
He yells Ouch then Ill bow down.
That signals Tostees apparent switch from annoyance to anger.
He tells her: Thats more than enough. Youve worn out your welcome. Youre not my kind of girl. You have to leave.
The balcony of Gable Tostees 14th floor Surfers Paradise apartment. Photograph: Dan Peled/AAP
In Tostees account, his tackling of Wright to the floor of the apartment follows her striking him with a telescope.
The prosecution claims that is when the sound consistent with Tostee choking Wright can be heard, which he denies.
You are lucky I havent chucked you off my balcony, you goddamn psycho little bitch, he says.
Who the fuck do you think I am? Yeah, do your muay thai now.
Wright, her mouth sounding muffled, says he is sexist.
Im the one whos injured. You dont have a goddamn scratch on you, Tostee says.
I thought you were just playing around. But youre psycho. Goddamn psycho.
Im going to let you go, Im going to walk you out of this apartment just the way you are. Youre not going to collect any of your belongings or anything, youre just going to walk out and Im going to slam the door on you. You understand? If you try and pull anything Ill knock you out. Ill knock you the fuck out.
Tostee tells Wright to get up.
Im sorry, Wright says.
I dont care. Get up, Tostee says.
Tostee, apparently still restraining Wright, tells her over and over: You dont understand do you?
You think you can hit me and I just fall down like in the movies?
Wright tells him repeatedly to Let go.
Tostee: Who the fuck do you think you are?
Wright: No, no, no, no
Tostee: You trying to kill me, huh? Whyd you try and hit me with that, huh?
Wright is screaming no over and over again.
This is all on recording you know. Its all being recorded, Tostee says.
Wright pleads: Just let me go home.
Tostee says: I would but youve been a bad girl.
The glass door clicks shut and Wrights screams fade. Tostee sighs. Less than 20 seconds pass when Wright screams as she slips from the balcony rail.
Tostees barrister, Holt, in his opening address on Monday, told the jury the moment when the screaming Wright was being locked on the balcony was a horrible one to listen to because you know what comes next.
But the recording contained a sequence of events that would bear out his clients innocence of her murder, Holt argued.
It really is, all in the recording, he said.
The trial continues.
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