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#happy birthday mob and glennis#get it bc rob mac glenn dennis#iasip#iasip fanart#dennis reynolds#mac mcdonald#frank reynolds#im late but what ever
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my favourite thing about the always sunny podcast is listening to rcg all say something extremely neurodivergent and then agree amongst themselves and convince themselves its completely normal
#and to be clear im not diagnosing them charlie said he wasn't neurotypical#like deadass i think. the reason some of their writers just completely botch the gang's motivations/dialogue sometimes is bc at their core#these characters are all. SO autistic. which inevitably leads to them being misunderstood by others outside their group#whether rcg realizes it or not they inject this very specific vibe of neurodivergence into the gang#and its why they will just. argue over inconsequential details bc they Need to be understood completely#they can't just drop it unless they are crystal fucking clear#imo the biggest mistake other writers make is thinking that the gang is completely desensitized when its more like#they just don't react the way you would expect#which is often... adjacent to that but still distinct. and its trauma that influences this as well#the gang does not believe they themselves are 'bad people'. theyre most often oblivious to the fact that the things they do are insane#rob saying he doesnt pick up on social cues and then going on to argue in circles with glenn#i dont think last week was anything crazy but i think. rob doesn't know when to let up. which is a problem that *i* have#and while it comes across as being confrontational in an 'im right youre wrong' way i dont think its driven by ego here#just like with how as they said mac and dennis are making up while chucking bread rolls at each other#on both sides its frustration at being misunderstood#but they are all similar enough that even if they disagree over small details theyre usually on the same page. and this can be beneficial!!#thats the conclusion of the ep!!!! whether its suggesting smoking to cancel out the toxic apple skin or suggesting words u cant think of#glenn said he was upset about feeling misrepresented and picked on#dennis gets angry for those exact reasons in.... ALL of his big rage scenes#its frustration that leads to anger because youre speaking to (another) brick wall and you can't adequately explain yourself#which. glenn is clearly more competent than dennis & i think a lot of the time in sunny the gang is WAY more obtuse for the sake of comedy#but its interesting to watch the dynamic because as charlie said last week#they are mac and dennis (especially when theyre fighting)#i just think.. they are in a semi-unique position to understand this because this is how they are. while several other writers do not get i#ada speaks#untagged
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patrick mcelhenney i'm in your walls and you better have gang goes bowling pictures locked and loaded
#i collected these by just searching his name and going to the news tab on google#bc all the 'review' websites have to credit him#why does he not post these himself#why is sunny social media and fx keeping these from us#trust i will be getting pictures of dee in the bowling fit#it's always sunny in philadelphia#iasip#charlie kelly#charlie day#mac mcdonald#rob mcelhenney#dennis reynolds#glenn howerton#frank reynolds#danny devito#dee reynolds#kaitlin olson#season 16#always sunny
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frank vs. russia
starting the episode in media res and the circular storytelling!! the writing in this episode is really good overall, just so clever and inventive and effective. go off megan
“you ARE ready. everything you need is already inside you” sunny is ready to do a gay, gay-ass love story you guys. the gays are already inside it
titling it frank vs. russia when that’s clearly the b-plot? because we’re burying the lead? because we’re telling lies???
the denny’s shirt…
“aren’t you like 60?” misogyny is so sad 😞
dennis ANYBODY can get a guy to bang them ONCE reynolds
everyone wants dennis’ help but who will help dennis? :(
when mac says “it’s VERY romantic” dennis literally smacks the counter like… yikes
“one day he will and it is going to be hot” - I choose to believe this means that rcg think old man yaoi is hot and they are excited to show it :)
sunnyblr university is producing so many brilliant scholars who understand the significance of the beads as a metaphor for queerness and whether the audience is in or out and how it doesn’t matter because the queerness is all the way in and as of this episode it’s been turned up to full blast and leads us to a resounding victory. I’m just rehashing what others have said but I wanted to make sure I include it with my notes from this episode because it really is such a central idea and yet one that can be so easily missed by someone who isn’t reading the show like this... ugh the duality of sunny will never cease to confound me
dee calling mac out like yes bitch get his ass!! (so to speak)
uncle fucking jack walks in saying “they dropped all those charges weeks ago” - playdate EW - “I don’t– I don’t have any ice cream” - “shut UP dude, that’s gross, man”
charlie is so PRECIOUS in his little outfit and glasses
is he schizophrenic? I wonder if that will come up again or if it was just a throwaway joke
violent heterosexual shushing from dennis
the backing track of the sinned system/date scene is “in the hall of the mountain king” and it’s just so fucking classic sunny and so perfect
how did mac show patrick that he needed his power? and how did he engage physically?? we need to know these things!!!
kaitlin’s whole performance in the date scene is so fucking good
“the person who made him feel powerful, but also powerless.” the macdennis of it all is truly overwhelming sometimes
the person whose validation he’s been seeking his entire life :/
“it worked” jesus christ mac
“well yeah but listen, the dennis system is a system for getting a woman. this is a system for getting a man, and that’s why sinned is actually dennis backwards!!” when I first watched this episode I was high as balls and sick with anticipation and this whole bit nearly pushed me over the edge. I mean he basically just straight up says that it’s bad for him to like men (sin) after explaining a tried-and-true system for getting them???
and then mac and dee are like “what are the chances??” and dennis is like HIGH >:( because they don’t see it. they don’t see it even though it’s been plain as day the whole time :(
dennis: “I’m still buzzin from last night” 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀
AND I HAVE TO BE WITH HIM oh baby boy I pray you will be
the nastiness in dennis’ voice when he says “well no, see, that’s the thing – johnny doesn’t love you. he doesn’t even like you.” glenn I’m scared of you
“they ARE my favorite” he wanted mac to realize :( and yes the crabs are deeply metaphorical
“yeah, because I AM johnny” “then who’s dennis?” “what do you mean?!” “well if you’re johnny, then who– who’s you?” one of the best sunny exchanges of all time!!!!!!!! I cannot overstate how much I love this dialogue. it just captures so much about them so succinctly go off megan!!!!!
“I can’t engage with you on this right now” great delivery rob, so funny
does dennis want to control frank like a pawn bc he felt like that’s what frank did to him? or he’s just frustrated at mac and wants a situation he feels in control of?
kaitlin’s “... yeah” when dennis asks if dee has more pills is just so funny I keep remembering it and laughing randomly
“we’re gonna need to turn the lights out.” GLENN I’M SCARED OF YOU
the POV Being Frank throwback! I love the tossing of the clothes and the blackness and the sound of the door, cool little sequence
charlie’s such a good cheerleader 🥹 his little point is so funny
do you ever wonder what danny devito might be doing with his career if he wasn’t pretending to be split in half by giant vibrating anal beads on it’s always sunny in philadelphia??
“you don’t have to do this” this one speaks for itself I think.
dennis and uncle jack, two sexual deviants having a laugh in the van :| (also the van situation is so classic sunny obvs)
mrs. mac saying “nice” god there are just so many hilarious little character beats in this episode
“I DON’T KNOW HOW ELSE TO TELL YOU!!!” :( what’s in the texts rcgm
macdennis fightin :)
the full-blast alarm sound effect just gets me every time like to me that is peak comedy
The Burning Heart by Survivor is kind of macdennis coded tbh… “It's a primitive clash venting years of frustrations / Bravely we hope against all hope / There is so much at stake” “Does the crowd understand?” “Though his body says ‘stop!’ his spirit cries ‘never!’ (omg) / Deep in our soul a quiet ember knows it's you against you” like sorry if this song was supposed to be for straight people but it’s not anymore
so there’s something there about what’s acceptable and going full blast. the mommy issues are now explicit. dennis is bisexual. and he chose to have a romantic and sexual relationship with mac while pretending to be someone else, to the point that mac was in love with this other version of him. and he was so mad mac didn’t realize that he actually played his hand and told him, and mac still couldn’t accept it, upsetting dennis further. wtf man these homos are INSANE
#I realize the new episode just aired so this is weird timing lol but I've had a busy week#also it's long! because I got shit to say!!!#and this was truly such a jam-packed episode like I am genuinely impressed bc we all know the writing can be hit or miss#but this one was in a league of its own man#sunny#always sunny#iasip#it's always sunny in philadelphia#s16#s16e4#frank vs. russia#dennis#macdennis#I'm having so much fun being crazy with all you little gay people on the internet :)
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I was thinking about why Charlie x Glenn (charlie x dennis) have kissed on the show but Mac Den haven't...
Now bear with me bc I might get globby for some minutes BUT :
Rob and Glenn are aware of the tension between characters or at least the sexual tension as it's portrayed. They know they can't move past a glenn x rob kiss or mac den kiss like they did with Glenn and Charlie.
The chemistry between mac and Dennis is something else and a kiss would lead them to uncharted territories while charlie really doesn't care about Dennis on the show that much.
On another hand, i don't think glenn and rob can be normal about that kiss either lol.
This is stupid but I believe there's a reason they haven't kiss.
#rob mcelhenney#glenn howerton#dennis reynolds#macdennis#mac mcdonald#its always sunny in philadelphia#mac x dennis#iasip#iasip podcast#iasip s16#iasip iasip season 16
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Wait, you've been a Sunny fan for 8 years?! You've got to tell us how it's been in that time!!! What's the vibe been like here in that time and how has it changed? What were the big fan theories? Was r/iasip always such a hellhole dumpsterfire? What are the big things from the fandom back in the day that we don't know about but should?
Ooooh lets see what I remember-
Charlie reigned supreme- like really and truly so many blogs and so, so much content was Charlie Charlie Charlie, everyday, all the time and I mean he still is insanely popular but definitely back in the day Charlie in the show and of the cast was easily the most popular, like it felt like 7/10 posts were about him. Glenn was next in line but I do distinctly remember Kaitlin and Rob didn't have as much content about them, at a certain point I kinda was the Kaitlin Olson tag, that's not me being up myself I just used to be in her tag constantly and it'd be a lot of posts in a row of just me- the girls of the series def didnt always get the love they should and I'm not really sure that's changed much ☠ But yeah this was also around the time that everyone was also going gaga about Pacific Rim so that def made Charlie even more popular too.
Macdennis has always, always been a popular pairing but their popularity 100% has skyrocketed the past few years, and I mean SKYROCKETED. Like they're on par with some wildly popular mlm ships nowadays and it's lowkey so funny to see em in the ring with like. destiel 😂 now when I go in the tag it seems half the posts feature mac and dennis, which is notable to me bc Mac especially was kinda... Unloved is not the right way to phrase it bc fans have always loved him but Rob/Mac def didn't get /as/ much love back in the day. Like people often spoke of him as the weakest character but after season 13 I think he's gained more appreciation.
Fans have def gotten much bigger on theories and stuff these days, I'm sure they had em back then too but it wasn't as prevalent and none particularly stand out, it was usually just the "X characters are secretly sleeping together" type beat. I also remember a popular theory that everyone was going to die in the inevitable series finale but then the show never got cancelled and I dont know what that was about?
Reddit has always been messy and there def was a pretty big us vs them type vibe between sunny fans back then- though it was less reddit vs tumblr and more "straight dude bros" vs everyone else like I remember so many posts being like "Ugh straight dude bros don't get the show" I probably made some of those posts 😂 Lots of "Mac isn't actually gay" too which is very, very funny in hindsight- No one ever thought they'd canonize his sexuality.
Ummm... Probably the most notable thing to me tho is seeing how popular the cast has become, like 8 years ago Danny was the only "Big name" Like the media absolutely spoke of the show as these no name people and Danny Devito. I mean that was not totally the case for Charlie, he was becoming more and more popular and gaining traction in the mainstream with pacific rim and the likes but with Glenn, Kaitlin and Rob they were definitely not super well known outside Big always sunny fans so seeing them go from that to Rob being besties with Ryan Reynolds and stuff has honestly been super interesting and funny. Like I remember posting rob and kaitlins wedding pictures and getting so many people going WAIT THEYRE MARRIED?? it was hilarious to see the transition.
Yeah those are probably the biggest changes I can think of- it's gotten more popular which explains most of it, shipping has def become a much bigger thing as well, ships were pretty chill back then, there wasn't too much fic or art so thats different now :)
OH BUT ART! There's always been wonderful fan artists but nowadays wowee!! some amazing art for the series, like much more abundant! That's the gist of it :)
#Also back in the day the cast like on twitter and insta would respond A LOT#like Mary elizabeth ellis retweeted art I did of her#so did Kaitlin more than once#Kaitlin also commented on my insta posts back in the day which was sweet#Rob accidentally followed me on twitter one time after replying to me which was funny as shit bc i was like ROB MCELHENNEYS FOLLOWING ME???#and then he wasnt </3 how could you rob </3#Charlie never fuckall used social media and that hasnt changed#also some of them had random defunct social media accounts where i posted pics from#sometimes people still reblog like Hm wonder where these pics are from and im like#probably one of my old myspace or fanpop or photobucket expeditions#god theres some scandals i remember from back then but i wont bring those up 😂#Yeah honestly mostly it changed from Charlie all the time to Charlie a lot of the time#the other cast members have gotten more successful and popular#and shipping is more prevalent#anyway THIS IS LONG SORRY#thank you for the ask tho was fun to reminisce <3#askj
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Had a Glob dream. I would characterize it as a nightmare (because...glob) but basically it started with the writers' room breaking a story where Dennis is obsessively following Mac around for some reason (Megan's idea). And Glenn was getting really upset about it but he wouldn't say why. So in typical Rob fashion, Rob pulled him aside and said that if Glenn is uncomfortable or if he needs to talk about something, that's okay, but he needs to give an actual reason for them to scrap the script because they can't get into the habit of shooting down ideas without just cause. But Glenn can't come up with a reason bc Megan's pitch was air-tight and hilarious so he just had to let it happen. So they're filming this episode and Glenn starts crying because he had to say a line that was supposed to be a joke but it was way too raw and hit close to home ("I miss when I had you to myself" or something like that) so he just walked off the set. Rob was staring after him w his puppy dog eyes. Did not get a happy ending
this is. a lot. why can i see it so vividly
we are truly just manifesting shit in our dreams to fill the void huh....
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We're coming down to the wire, really, and I'm not at all convinced Mac will be in Dennis' arc for DTAMHD (I think it's his self-reflection, coming to who he is moment, just like Mac and Charlie have had, he needs to go through it without them), but I want to just add my thoughts. (Because they all laughed at the tissue thing, especially Meg, which I've always thought was a little odd, until we got the Mommy Kink and Meg wrote the episode and LOL ok. Got it.)
Listening to the Podcast has been pretty interesting for a number of reasons, and reading this chain kinda lit something up in my mind. How long has The S.I.N.N.E.D. System been on the board?
It's something they've talked about again and again that they have way too many ideas than they can do in a season. And sometimes, things are on the board for awhile. Yk what? If I remember correctly, The D.E.N.N.I.S. System was a Season 4 plot, on the board for awhile, that got pushed to Season 5 (Glenn mentioned this bc they moved lots in between, and he only remembered the episode being discussed on the Season 4 lot). So when they go into a new season, there's always 'left over' or 'rolled over' ideas from previous seasons that they still want to execute.
And remember the infamous Christmas Pod? They fought about how many episodes to do the Ireland arc for (Rob wanted a full season, Charlie wanted max 2 episodes). Which means, reasonably, they definitely had more 'normal' episodes up on the board for S15 than they could work with (and they want 10-12 episodes a season, again FX only gave them 8, so imagine how many ideas and plots they just can't get to)
It just really makes me wonder: How long has The S.I.N.N.E.D. System existed for RCG(M)? How long has it been tossed around in the writers room for? At what point did it go up on the board and when was it fleshed out? How long did it sit around, waiting for the right time, waiting for a fitting B(A) plot? Honestly, since Meg wrote this one, I have a hard time believing it didn't float around for at least awhile.
Again, I'm not convinced this is about Macdennis. What I am saying is that they all weirdly found the tissue stuff funny. Like it was an inside joke they all got, but everyone watching was like 'Christ they're drunk, aren't they?' Because we had no idea. But now it is something. You watch this back, post FvR and laugh with them. Ahhaha, wow this could be a reference to Dennis' System. (And there's quite a few episodes of TASP that have weird 'was that a joke?' explanations to them now). Is it a clue of anything further to come? Who knows. But it is interesting, as TASP continues and the show continues, how many things we just don't know, just don't register as references or jokes or hints, because they're still on the board. Because we're watching everyone who is completely in the know have conversations and make vague references and jokes, while we're in the dark.
What else is on the board? I mean, we know RCG have all talked and agreed how they want the show to end. You think they've vagued at that plot before? Make a joke that doesn't even register with the audience about it? Honestly, probably.
okay this probably has been said before but i am manifesting this,
i believe macdennis will be canon in some sort of way in dtamhd, solely based on the pod a little while back.
this is clearly a subtle inside joke for the sinned system, the system for MEN. the man that wrote dtamhd says this to glenn.
and then both of them staring at rob afterwards? like? the hints are all there, folks
mac WILL ask dennis if he needs a tissue.
#iasip#tasp#food for thought#add.#just talking really#nothing much to do with speculation#i just find it really interesting how little we actually know or understand#because half the time we're watching them have a normal convo#they probs reference and joke about cut stuff dumped stuff unused stuff still to be used stuff all the time#its crazyyyyy
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Rob when its time to do the big MacDennis Kiss
Vs Glenn
#theyll have to shoot it like 80 times bc rob will keep breaking#glenn is NOT breaking#he is getting an egot and he had decided the way to donit#is by sucking robs soul out of his body by way of his esophagus#iasip#macdennis#macden#dennis reynolds#mac mcdonald
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14, 15, 17 - get bloviating
already did 17 but i'll happily bloviate on the rest
14. Do you watch/listen to the podcast? If so, favorite podcast moment/conversation?
the richness of you of all people asking me this mere hours before we'll be furiously livetexting each other about it during work hours. but 1) YES. 2) anything glenn does. anything. whatever. every word that comes out of his stupid mouth. adaptogens. manifesting. that time he said back pain can be cured with positive thinking. maybe that was on a different podcast actually. when rob called him cunty. when he broke his collarbone and couldn't laugh bc it hurt too much. the way he said "i jacked up my back!" when he got mad at houseplants. "it wants to be under the sidewalk??" tesla...... kicking in the door.. those socks he wore that one time. playing gay at an 11... every time he's a desperately earnest hipster about music. the shorts.....................anyway. oh also rob&meg, duo of all time 💕. and every time charlie's like "i hate doing this podcast i quit." say it buddy live your dreams
15. Favorite sunny fic(s)
i have lots bookmarked but these are the ones always stuck to the top of my brain:
obviously ANYTHING by kafkian, god tier smut writer of all time. i read their fics before i even shipped macdennis and my goose was cooked. i still reread all of them all the time.
domesticity and other cults by lagaudiere which is possibly just the best sunny fic i've ever read and which apparently performed an incredible feat with apollo's red dodgeball right before suburbs came out
our love's the only thing that could matter by oopshidaisy aka the amazing abo fic i wish i was smart enough to have written but since i didn't i just reread it all the time instead lol
mac and dennis plan a wedding by mxingno which is SO on point, so flawless, so pitch perfect, it haunts me eternally
you sound insane (but god i love that pretty face) by mayinthebackyard, a transcendent piece of tremendous character work about dennis' crazy bitch insecurities. beyond compare.
#apologies for not tagging any fic authors but a) idk half their tumblr handles and b) idk if anyone wants to be tagged in a random ask meme#iasip#ask meme
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what is the worst ways you think macdennis can go canon tho? (everyday i fear they might make they go canon with something dubcon
I haven't given it more than a passing thought bc I like don't want to manifest anything lmao but fuck it.
For as much shit as we all give Rob (and Glenn and Charlie), I think he does tread more carefully with LGBT related stuff than like, the other shit they tackle on the show. Like the whole Mac coming out then taking it back in Goes to Hell only to give us HOHC and then MFHP to make up for that.
So I don't think this is something they would do, but if we do get any kind of MacDennis confession of feelings, I really don't want it to come off like a joke. Like it can be funny and in the vein of the show don't get me wrong there are TONS of ways to do that (we talk about it enough here on tumblr dot gov) but I don't want them to like...make fun of it? Idk there's a better way to phrase that but we know this show is capable of sincerity (Big Feelings Speech I am outside your house).
I guess honestly I don't have a specific scenario in mind but IF they do canon MacDennis, I just want it to be true to the show and like, no room for interpretation about what happened (*glares at destiel*). But it IS Sunny after all so if what we get is "Canon (homophobic)" then so be it.
And listen MacDennis is already onesided canon from Mac's POV. Like he's said he loves Dennis. s14 was SO loud about that. So now the rest of "going canon" relies on how they handle Dennis's side of things. Which--Glenn...girl HELP.
Also just to wrap this stream of consciousness mess, I am perfectly happy with keeping things the way they are in the current MacDennis landscape. I don't need them to be explicitly canon. Sure there are a few missteps here and there bUT there's a long enough trail of meta bread crumbs to keep me sustained for the foreseeable future.
I can read between the lines. I can fill in the blanks. I've taken the bait, I'm on the hook.
#macdennis#sunny asks#iasip#allisonny in philadelphia#i'm sorry this is all over the place and rambly#i guess i have thots
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Ok ok we have:
- Glenn’s eps. This may be a two parter or this may just be two different episodes. Possibly the series openers depending on how you read what glenn said. These episodes have several scenes in Mac and Dennis’s apartment and the bed pic is probably from these episodes. Dennis is in depression outfits.
- zoo episode. Mac and Charlie in meerkat hats.
- black and white noir episode!! Extremely sexy. Mary Elizabeth Ellis/the waitress has a pretty large role. Apparently they’re gonna do some red pops. like I said extremely sexy. From what we’ve seen of the stills it seems like this is gonna have some amazing cinematography.
- global warming episode. Mac and Dennis shirtless together in the bar? Dennis in a tank top for the first time since paddy’s was a gay bar? Dee with an ‘I voted’ sticker? Charlie dressed in a garbage bag and a pizza box on his head? some kind of ‘big stunt’. Mac and Dennis also appear to be in a hair salon together so this is probably a full ep macden team up
- thundergun ep. dolf lungren is here. It’s gonna be thirsty. There are peasants.
- a bottle episode taking place entirely inside one room. This could be paddy’s or Mac and Dennis’s apartment but I doubt it bc both both locations have multiple frequently used rooms and I doubt we’d get another episode all inside mac and Dennis’s apartment like that after the gang escapes. Same goes for dee’s apartment with the rooms things and it looks too big to be Charlie and frank’s apartment so it’s likely in some other location
EDIT: we now know that there’ll be a “rom com episode” where the gang Airbnb’s their apartments to find love
EDIT PT2: whatever this means
Which leaves one more episode unaccounted for.
There are also hints that haven’t been nailed down to episodes yet:
- a photo from Megan ganz’s writing board mentioning an interior hotel bar.
- Dee has a scene inside a department store. It might (?) be the same as the one from storm of the century
- Cody Kennedy is playing a character named Sasha. Her role seems to relate to a storyline with Charlie and frank.
- Jackie denardo and police cars outside paddy’s. This was from early in filming but could likely be filmed out of order.
- rob hinted at a nightman cometh live revival in his ig comments before filming even started but it was never mentioned again so who knows. who knows.
- a callback to the gang dines out (the gang minus dennis all in similar costume)
[eyes emoji]
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If rcg decide to make macdennis canon, how do you think they would do it? Like what do you think is the most likely way for them to go about it? (I'm just wondering if other ppl think they're gonna try acclimatize the dude bros or what) Also, how does that realistic version compare to the personal version that you have, i.e. what would make most sense to you/the way that you would most like to see it happen? Love your blog btw!
Okay so after work yesterday I spent 5 hours talking about my friend’s ocs and then watching The O.C. so I obvi did not get to this yesterday like I said I would, but I did think about it and that counts for something. So now i’m typing and this started getting long so will put it under a cut. Thank you for loving my blog.
Anyway. Canon macdennis. I think it’ll happen. I don’t know if the dudebros can be acclimated any more. I mean they still write “scripts” (read: fanfiction) where Mac is still fucking women. So. The dudebros will never be there, although there are plenty out there who were Very Into how hot Mac was this season. (I was on reddit while the season was airing don’t @ me)
I think it would be stupid for them to have a loving and tender moment between them as their, like, thing. I need Dennis to acknowledge he’s into dudes first, though, otherwise it’s weird. Like we See Things, but he’s specifically called himself straight so “all of a sudden” wanting to make out with Mac would be out there. They need to acclimate me and I guess I don’t want Dennis’s coming out to be directly tied to Mac or for anyone to pretend he’s straight with an exception.
Although I am into the idea of there just being a normal thing happening and Dennis is like “Well as a romantic couple, Mac and I are obviously best suited for this thing” and just like.... move past it. Nothing much changes except for the potential for more dumbassery. As much as the ending of himym hurt, I did like when Barney and Robin were dating and were like “Oh we never fight because whenever we start to fight we just have sex instead” and I think that’s peak macdennis behavior.
I think it would be funny if Mac rejected Dennis like “oh I only love you like a friend ^-^ but thank you, your opinion as a man means a lot to me.” I did write a fic where Mac DENNIS systems Dennis, bc we all know Dennis is easily manipulated and Mac is like “oh that’s just how you get someone to fall in love with you don’t worry I wasn’t going to do the separate part” and it was dumbass rights. (and like i guess if you haven’t read that fic sorry for spoiling the ending, but it’s whatever)
Ideally, I would like Glenn back in the writer’s room because Dennis is a much better character when he’s actively part of the process. He would give a much better voice to bi dennis than like... rob or charlie. or god forbid megan. (and yeah i think bi dennis might be more likely, or maybe i’m more hopeful bc we just don’t get a lot of bi rep in media and i just want it and i don’t think Dee’s a lesbian and I don’t think they’ll make her one although wouldn’t it be neat if Dennis and Dee were just twin disaster bisexuals? revolutionary.)
I think an offhand comment might be the most likely, like how nb charlie came about. (though i don’t think they actually realized what they were doing there haha) And i’d be fine with that. it could be funny and I think it would open up a lot of hijinks to ensue
But I also think they’re cowards and might just continue queerbaiting so there’s that. Like “here’s your little scraps of representation, don’t worry I have two gay moms and a gay brother so I know everything about the gay community”
So yeah that’s my take on that thank you for coming to my ted talk
#i got hashtag controversial at the end#but I'm not here to argue#that's just my personal take on it#this was such a fun ask to answer#something that really made me think abt things#Anonymous
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s14 trailer breakdown!!!
okay so from the trailer there are six clear episode plot line we can see- a zoo episode, a laser tag episode, what i will refer to as the ‘melon episode’, dines out 2.0, a noir episode, and an episode where he whole gang seems to have a corporate meeting and then watch a movie at a private screening that they find *very* exciting. So, let’s go through what we can see about these plotlines from the trailer and what we can piece together from bts info, and then look at what’s missing from trailer and what this could mean. buckle in, because my ted talk is about to get started. in the essay i literally will. Let’s go.
So, we have an episode list, but only the description for the first ep, “tg gets romantic”. we know that in “tg chokes” the gang goes to guiginos at least once due to a scene rob leaked on instagram (https://www.instagram.com/p/B1NBx6-HOxM/?igshid=yg2ql5uyu4w1, https://www.instagram.com/p/B1zgApEHXhv/?igshid=1ge7qkgw5bm0d), so let’s start there.
We can see the entire opening scene for tg chokes on robs instagram, which shows us the gang are back at guiginos for a meal all together (which is also shown in the trailer). But the trailer has another guiginos scene (where dee appears to have a reaction and the waiter appears to use an epipen on her), where the gang (bar charlie and mac, who both only own one quote unquote “nice” outfit), are all wearing different outfits. So we know they visit guiginos at least twice this season. These more than likely happen in the same episode (what i called “dines out 2.0” before but we know is actually called “the gang chokes”).
Moving on to the laser tag episode. It’s... a laser tag episode. Unfortunately I don’t have much to say about it, but it’s a very clear plotline featuring the whole gang. It’s hard to tell if they wear the same outfits at another point because of the vests, but based on dees shirt i don’t think so. This plotline most likely takes up most or all of an episode (maybe dee day? my girl seems to be really enjoying the laser tag, so maybe?).
Then we have the noir episode, which we know is “the janitor always mops twice”. A whodunnit where the premise is to find out who diarrhoea poisoned frank. features the whole gang + the waitress, based on cast instagrams.
Then we have the screening episode (?) which i will go on record as saying i believe will be the thundergun episode (thundergun 4: maximum cool), but that is just personal speculation and not really based in any “facts” or “real world observations” or whatever pussies and people with small meat base their predictions on. we see the gang in a meeting in a corporate style office (the scene where charlie thinks the window is a two way mirror) and then later towards the end watching something on the big screen in an empty cinema and cheering (wearing the same outfits as before). Personal prediction: they’re gonna try convince a studio to let them make thunder gun 4 like they did with lethal weapon. i WOULD like to point out that in robs instagram pictures with dolph lundgren he is wearing a grey v neck shirt sleeve t shirt and in the shots i just mentioned he was wearing a baseball shirt with a print on it, so just keep that in mind when assessing the realism of this theory. But those might have just been backstage or after shooting pics. Anything is possible in iasip.
Okay, next I’m gonna talk about the zoo episode. This is the first episode i’m gonna discus where there are gang members missing from what i can figure out of the plotline. So, we have a very clear story in the trailer of mac and charlie going to the zoo, seeing the meerkats, charlie pisses on mac. Later in the trailer, frank is shown tormenting a gorilla. dee and dennis do not appear to be at the zoo with them, and kaitlin and glenn don’t seem to have been on set at the zoo based on social media posts. dee and dennis are only seen alone together in one scene during the trailer, which is this puppy (0:05), where they appear to be at some kind of fair/stand/protest or something? I’m not sure what it is, but dee appears to be texting while dennis laughs mockingly at her, so potentially (WILD SPECULATION ALERT) the zoo episode is the gang texts and dee and dennis have the main plot of this episode. this is the only dee and dennis solo scene in the trailer however we do have unaccounted for plotlines so this could be a part of that and their plot in this episode may not have a shot in the trailer.
Finally (not finally, but lastly out of the plotlines i have lovingly sherlock-ed together), we have the melon episode. This is probably the episode the trailer gave us the most information about, and we can out together almost a whole plotline from these shots. This seems from the trailer to be crickets only episode of the season, although there is a video of david hornsby on robs instagram (https://www.instagram.com/p/B1zEOJjnPG8/?igshid=yfciekezwnc3) of him wearing a different outfit, so maybe there’s another episode in store for rickety cricks this season.
The gang appear to be watching a show in the bar, dennis tells them to shut up so he can watch, they gasp and remark how much they love the show, although dee says the plot is absurd. Dennis says humans are stupid and should be eradicated, which is met with agreement. Seems like we’re gonna have some good ol fashioned meta references this season, folks! Anyways, after this they somehow stumble across franks melon in a safe, ask him and it, and drop it from a ladder (from which cricket catches it). they also seem to be looking at the office computer while dee gags. this looks to be a classic “gang finds a thing and is surprised and intrigued by it so investigate but in an idiot way” episode, although we don’t know what frank is up to during this melon madness. he doesn’t seem to wear that shirt at any other point during the trailer. hmmmmmmm frank wyd
that brings me to the end of clear episodes in the trailer, but there are a few other things that, while they don’t really fit in with any specific plot, gives us a little info about what else is going on this season.
we have a plotline where frank is in the waiters house with him and his mother, not sure what the gang is up to but we see frank wear that shirt earlier in the trailer with charlie. we don’t not see charlie wear his shirt again in the trailer so it’s most likely a plot not in the trailer. there’s also a shot of frank and charlie in their pjs in their apartment, potentially from the first episode (tg gets romantic) as according the episode description it appears to be the episode this flyer is from (https://www.instagram.com/p/B1ZZB-PnDeB/?igshid=nta7myvov0t2), which would make sense for the boys in their pjs, although they could really do that at any point in the season. we ALSO see mac and dennis in their apartment, also in pjs, talking about lunatics. this is likely from the same episode as the charlie & frank pj shot to mirror them, which strengthens the argument that it’s from the first episode due to both sets of guys having the same set up and problem just in different ways (both advertise for a person to come live with them, it goes wrong). dee is also there in this macden shot. maybe she is the lunatic in question? idk. we have dee and mac on what looks like a basketball court, dee is dancing, and after that we also have mac and charlie in the macden apartment and mac tries to swipe charlie’s boaba. i have no idea about these, so i don’t have much to say. just thought i’d bring em up.
NOW, onto what we didn’t see in the trailer. we KNOW there is an episode with poppins because of this instagram post (https://www.instagram.com/p/B01Cqu4nwMK/?igshid=1cc2y1uvonml0). none of the outfits these three are wearing come up in the trailer, so i’m forced to believe this is an episode we have not seen any shots of yet. not sure what dee and dennis are doing. it could be that shot i mentioned before in the zoo section, but we can’t be sure. we didn’t seem to see anything about the global warming episode that has been teased, either.
so let’s recap what we know (or what i think i know). there’s ten episodes this season. we can deduce six coherent plots from the trailer (laser tag, noir, zoo, melon, chokes, potential thundergun). we know there’s an episode with poppins with mac charlie & frank, and the global warming episode. the first episode is tg gets romantic, which we have the description of and most likely those pj shots. so that’s nine plotlines overall we seem to have a grasp on right now. i believe the one we don’t have any info for right now is the finale, and that both the plot details and the shots are being kept under wraps so that the finale is more hard hitting when it comes out. i do believe they’re gonna go hard, we’re living post mfhp, anything is possible, and last seasons finale is an awful lot to top. i can’t even guess at the finale plot. i am so excited.
so that’s my official trailer breakdown and review, i hope this was coherent and if you know anything else or know that im wrong about something please tell me, i’m just so excited i want to have as clear a picture as possible bcs i can’t wait to know what the seasons gonna be!!!!!!
((thank you to @lesbian-mac for listening to my two hours of trailer related rambling and telling me to post this lmao <3))
#iasip#its always sunny in philadelphia#always sunny#dee reynolds#dennis reynolds#charlie kelly#mac mcdonald#frank reynolds#sunny#macdennis
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winedrunk liveblog the gang goes to a waterpark
as suggested by @cloudchaser2000!
drinks: 1.5
may i just start by saying this such a valid choice. good episode. i love waterparks.
s12 dennis is such good hair likeeee
omg charlie shoves dennis back and dennis’s little “Christ!”
ugh mac is wearing his cut off dickies as a swimsuit. again. GET NEW PANTS MAC
SHUT UP NERD
dee and mac getting stuck in the ride made me so claustrophobic the first time i watched this and i’m NOT claustrophobic but i HAVE been in a lot of water slides and that IS anxiety inducing. also this lifeguard is bad at his job bc hes supposed to make sure that youre out before he sends somebody else down sldkgdslkgs
ok ok here me out....charlie and frank talking about aids and how frank got gay aids parallels mac and dennis in ddl which is the finale of season 12..............
why does glenn howerton look like one of his other characters rather than dennis in this episode. is it the shorts.
please compare this elabroately crafted and well acted scene where he tries to pick up the mom to his Infamous pick up scenes in season 13 and 14......
SHERMAN!!!!!
you know this scene is so fucking funny when you remember rob and kaitlin are married. do you think they enjoyed this scene. it also shows that theyre great actors bc their characters have no chemistry lol
DO NOT PUT YOUR GENITALS OR YOUR BUTTHOLE NEAR THE POOL DRAIN. COVER THAT BUTTHOLE KID.
1) i have a pair of sunglasses that look just like the ones abby tries to steal
2) sunglasses at these places literally cost so expensive i forgot to bring some to sea world once and had to buy some for like $25 but they have little dolphins on them and it’s great.
THESE ARE TOO SMALL FOR ME dennis was dedicated to wearing these cute sunglasses
this episode just looks like it was so much fun to film!
dee’s fucking sunburned face asdlkgdj
man this woman that they talk to about the dr slide has such good hair. like jane in breaking bad. i really wish i could pull that off. like i would totally get those bangs and die my hair black BUT it would look TERRIBLE BUT i LOVE that style!!!!
which member of rcg do you guys think have the piss fetish......i think it’s a pretty even toss bw charlie and rob bc mee is constantly posting about her and charlie’s wild sex life but rob just gives off the Vibes.
this episode of dennis being a great fake dad vs whatever the fuck went on in north dakota :( dennis can only function in philly with the gang okay :( (this is why i have the wildly inaccurate headcanon that mac and dennis would actualy make kinda okay parents)
you know how dennis on the lounge chair telling the one woman to sit back down while he was looking at the other one was like a meme format for a while? i had no idea it was sunny. before i watched it. like with so many other sunny memes. the power of this media. visual culture. this is what i go to school for.
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IASIP Episodes Ranked: #126 of 144 - The Gang Recycles Their Trash
dir. Matt Shakman, written by Rob McElhenney, Glenn Howerton, & Charlie Day, aired October 18th 2012, Season 8 Episode 2
summary: this whole episode is what the title suggests: the gang recycling their trash, metaphorically and literally. as mac, charlie, and dennis dress up in tuxes and get paid to gather the rich neighborhood’s trash, frank and dee try to sabotage the trash union by bribing the gay city official. both plans don’t work out (duh) and the gang goes back to basics and attempt to collect trash again, but the trash men are back at work, ending their strike.
abby’s favorite line: ‘you have an incredible number of bugs in your teeth’ -dennis
luce’s favorite line: ‘some cocks can’t be unsucked’ -frank
positives:
this is one of the most meta episodes of iasip, in terms of commentary but most importantly of the whole show. there are so many smart callbacks to episodes like billboard, solves the gas crisis, sells out, and the gang runs for office.
it also feels like rcg wanted to give something to their long-time viewers, as they will understand all of the references
dee saying that they’ve done this all before harkens the theme of this episode in a pretty subtle way
the amount of trash produced by paddy’s is RIDICULOUS for a small bar!! what are they doing?!
the fact that the gang don’t remember saying things they’ve already said could maybe be indicative of their alcoholism? leaving them with only a vague memory of past experiences. but they maybe also just Don’t Give A Fuck, as they always forget people passing by in their lives, like the reoccurring guigino’s waiter
charlie not understanding a word that mac and dennis are saying is hilarious and probably one of the best jokes in the whole show
the trash trio not wanting to succeed could perhaps show that they are afraid of succeeding and leaving the comfort of the niche they’ve built for themselves...extremely reoccurring theme in the show
y’all.........mac trying to kiss dennis, that whole scene is already Too much and then he does that?? he was so excited and just wanted to kiss the love of his life....and it was improv?????? we’ve never recovered and never will! and also this being in an episode about past jokes reassures us that rcg have been doing this for a few seasons if not from the start
dee’s speech at the gay strip club was all kinds of meta about straight people thinking they understand gay culture and dare i say better than the original ? also dee and frank getting along is kinda cute
the idea for this episode is really interesting as they wanted to show that ‘older’ sitcoms tend to repeat themselves after a certain number of seasons in an attempt to regain their previous success and/or wit and they fall into the trap of repeating well-received jokes- and rcg succeed in criticising this in a quite meta way
also one reason rcg could have made this episode trash-focused is bc that’s how mainstream society and hollywood sees their show and they wanted to make fun of that lightheartedly
mac mentioning that poor ppl don’t mind living in their own filth is smart commentary bc ppl Actually Think this but its interesting that mac and charlie grew up poor and mac doesn’t associate himself with that anymore (see: mac and charlie: white trash)
the gang not being able to follow through on schemes and us seeing this in full and how quickly they move on is kinda sad... charlie forcing them to follow through feels almost uncomfortable as we know that the gang would never normally do something like this
the gang wants rugs for the bar????
negatives:
dee doing brown face is just so wrong and really disappointing. especially in a callback episode, if rcg wanted to reference their past racist mistakes, they should’ve found a way to make fun of it in a clever way without actually doing it again... this was not as intended a caricature of past episodes mocking their old jokes but rather an episode that included the exact same jokes without improving upon past mistakes, which is a part of the premise but all the same is disappointing and at points exhausting to see
although the brownface was extremely racist rcg could have been saying that this was what people expect from them? however this was not made clear
clearly rcg had not learned how bad this was, as a season later they created the ill-fated lethal weapon ep, which shows us that like the other jokes in the episode rcg didn’t regret making them at this juncture
frank falls out the window is actually a much better interpretation of renewing old jokes through a more coherent and fun narrative! it also shows learning of mistakes, as dennis uses the word donkey brained instead of the r slur
tldr: the episode achieved so much in terms of meta about the show and its place in society after all these years, however the use of brownface yet again is just disappointing and this episode doesn’t achieve its goal of making fun of previous episodes very successfully; other episodes do this better
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