#gavin reed stan
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Being a DBH fan in 2024 is weird because AI is literally destroying the lives of creatives all around us in real time and people will still call you racist for sympathizing with the character who thinks AI is bullshit
#dbh#detroit become human#gavin reed#dbh gavin reed#dbh gavin#detective reed#gavin reed stan#i still love him idk
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Every time I come across Gavin hate, old or new, I always think of that meme in Trolls:
Someone: Why do you hate Gavin?
Gavin haters: BECAUSE GAVIN KILLED MY GRANDMA, OKAY?
#detroit: become human#dbh#gavin reed#I don't know#most Gavin haters just sound so stupid to me#like you can tell that their only reasons for hating Gavin is 'he hurt my fave' or 'character did bad thing so I want him to die'#I've mostly encountered adults in this fandom but most of them sound like little children#and those same people who hate him will stan some character into another fandom who has actually committed crimes#yeah I’ll say it#Gavin isn’t the nicest guy#but he's not the worst#he's fine or just eh if you don't care for his character too much#but him existing is definitely not worth people in this fandom making hating him their entire personality#mine#mine: texts#mine: dbh
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Don‘t you love it when you have a comfort character and just copy and paste their personality to be like them? Yeah me too
#But I think it is basically always the same character but different fonts#tim stoker#Glenn close#stiles stillinski#Minho (the maze runner)#Stan marsh#Percy Jackson#peter quill#dr bright#Gavin reed#Ethan Winters#kenny McCormick#Hermes#and way more#i don‘t even know who I am anymore#but the true me probably sucks#so yeah#RELATABLE CHARACTERS!!
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I find it weird how Todd is a child abuser, Zlatko experiments on androids and turns them into monstrosities, Perkins betrays and kills Markus but yet Gavin is considered the worst person because he *checks list* doesn't consider androids alive (like almost everyone else in the game at that point) and doesn't trust Connor.
Among those you mention, Gav is by far the most justified. Yet I wanna clear some things up here bc I'm not a hypocrite.
1.) Todd -- who doesn't think androids are alive -- is an android child abuser.
"You don't want anything, you're just a goddamn piece of plastic." - Todd Williams
It's still phcked up that he's abusing/can kill something that resembles a kid to the T, but it's important to make that distinction. We see no proof of him abusing a human child (...even though it can be theorized bc his wife took their kid and left.)
Abusing an android kid is just as bad as abusing a human kid -- we know this -- but Todd doesn't see it that way, so that describes/partly justifies his reasoning. There's no such thing as 'abusing' a machine and that's how Todd sees it.
A lot of ppl are also (wrongly) infantilizing Con, so I'm not surprised that they consider Gav's bad treatment of Con worse than Todd's bad treatment of Alice who is a literal kid. Seems like most of them don't even care about Alice/kids in the 1st place (...and that says everything you need to know about these POS'.)
Mistreating a kid (Alice) is way more abhorrent than mistreating a grown-ass adult (Con.) Alice is also passive while Con often instigates conflict. So Todd is way worse than Gav by that alone.
2.) Zlatko -- who is aware androids are alive -- thinks he's doing them a favor.
"Believe me, you’re better off being erased and feeling nothing��� No more pain… No more hopes dashed… I almost envy you." - Zlatko Andronikov
He's the worst among those four, but this is again a scenario where you need to see the situation from his perspective. Yet he knows they're alive/capable of emotions and that makes him a million times worse than Gav.
3.) Perkins -- who is aware androids are alive -- is doing his job.
"That android… [North] You seem to really care about her… You don't want her to die, do you?" - Richard Perkins
...and if the lover status isn't there
"You could have what you've always dreamed of." - Richard Perkins
In Perkins' eyes, it's about national security. Androids have killed humans (Partners/Stormy Night/Broken -- even if Markus didn't actually kill Leo or Carl, that's what the public thinks -- Zlatko/Spare Parts/etc. too many chapters to mention,) destroyed public property (Capitol Park,) hijacked media (The Stratford Tower,) demonstrated illegally (Freedom March,) etc. Not to mention that androids are superior to humans in every way and nothing tells Perkins that they won't eventually get violent if taking the peaceful route.
Yet his knowing androids feel makes him (as Zlatko) a million times worse than Gav.
"'Could always try roughing it up a little. After all, it’s not human…" - Gavin Reed
Meaning Gav doesn't think they're alive (unlike Zlatko and Perkins.)
Gav isn't the only character I (partly) defend on shit like this. I just defend the others 'less' bc 1.) they're worse, and 2.) they don't get nearly as much undeserved vitriol as Gav does. Something that's legitimately insane bc, again, they're way worse by a longshot and I'll explain why down below.
Con stans (fandom majority) are thinking emotionally instead of logically
ppl hate/envy Gav bc he's a conventionally attractive white man (you don't see a lot of Todd, Perkins, Zlatko, Leo, and Allen fans even if there are a minuscule few bc they're not conventionally attractive)
Funny that we don't see a lot of hate for Amanda. An AI or not, she's the worst influence in Con's life with her emotional manipulation. Something way worse than physical abuse. I wonder why... (not really bc *cough* you apparently can't say anything bad about a black woman without being racist/misogynistic *cough*) Ofc there are some ppl that aren't afraid to speak up against her, but it's nothing compared to the shit Gav gets.
It's also why I'm not talking about North often bc the majority are (rightfully) defending her already. My voice isn't needed there. Every single person -- other than me, in my experience -- who defends Gav is being spinelessly backhanded about it.
Defending someone doesn't mean you agree with them or condone their actions. It's simply proof that one has the empathy/critical thinking skills to understand their point of view. Something lacking nowadays.
#dbh#gavin reed#todd williams#zlatko andronikov#richard perkins#markus manfred rk200#connor#detroit: become human#long post#Q&A#anonymous#*aydaptic
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The Tumblr Jerk Tournament Bracket...
...has dropped. I put all my love towards these assholes into it.
Seeded according to uhhhhh "my brain thinks these sources allign in same genre or medium, and if not, then it's because I think the characters have similar themes in some way in my brain". Contestants all chosen by YOU (+ Palpalymo, for diversity /j).
Polls: TBA. Once I finish making them all and draft them, I'll make an announcement.
There's no right or wrong criteria for who to vote here because trying to establish that via Tumblrpoll is useless. You can vote for someone because they're your favorite, because their propaganda swayed you, because they look cool, or because they're the meanest. Just think: Do You Want Them To Emerge Victorious? Or are they such an ass you'd delight in seeing them get swept?
I highly encourage taking the time to read some propaganda. These guys have lots of love behind them.
And last but not least, be nice to other people on the internet. These polls may be for asshole characters, but that gives you no right to be an asshole back. Anything attacking the fans or fandom of a character will get taken out via my sniper team.
Thanks for your patience and let the whooping begin.
Tag directory // Inbox, for propaganda, questions, chatter, etc.
Round One matchups, in text:
Zote the Mighty (Hollow Knight) VS Mothiva (Bug Fables)
Marvin Garden (Falsettos) VS Spike (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
Vic Sage/The Question (DC) VS Magic Man (Adventure Time)
Gary Smith (Bully) VS Jess Mariano (Gilmore Girls)
Theseus (Hades) VS Gavin Reed (Detroit: Become Human)
Murdoc Niccals (Gorillaz) VS Shrek (Shrek)
Seto Kaiba (Yu-Gi-Oh!) VS Fakir (Princess Tutu)
Scott Pilgrim (Scott Pilgrim) VS Dennis Reynolds (It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia)
Romeo (& Juliet) VS Tybalt Capulet (Romeo & Juliet)
Revali (Legend of Zelda) VS Ankh (Kamen Rider OOO)
Osamu Dazai (Bungou Stray Dogs) VS Berdly (Deltarune)
Louie (Pikmin) VS Scaramouche (Genshin Impact)
Vegeta (Dragon Ball) VS Sentinel Prime (Transformers Animated)
Mr. Darcy (Pride and Prejudice) VS Waldo Trumbull (Comedy of Terrors)
Herbert P. Bear (Club Penguin) VS Snowball (Battle for Dream Island)
Takaya Abe (Big Windup!) VS Bakugou (My Hero Academia)
Goro Akechi (Persona 5) VS Monoma (My Hero Academia)
Byakuya Togami (Danganronpa) VS Yesod (Lobotomy Corporation/Library of Ruina)
Vriska (Homestuck) VS Eridan (Homestuck)
Five Pebbles (Rain World) VS Dingo (Pikmin)
Dio (Zero Escape) VS Dio Brando (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure)
Cordalia Chase (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) VS Dr. House (House M.D.)
Dan (Dan VS) VS Eleanor Shelstrop (The Good Place)
Church (Red VS Blue) VS Hank J. Wimbleton (Madness Combat)
Catra (She-Ra) VS Boscha (The Owl House)
Stan Pines (Gravity Falls) VS Azula (Avatar the Last Airbender)
Astarion (Baldur's Gate 3) VS Shen Jiu (The Scum Villain's Self-Saving System)
GLaDOS (Portal) VS Arnold Rimmer (Red Dwarf)
Harrowhark (The Locked Tomb) VS Jonathan Simms (The Magnus Archives)
Rinne Amagi (Ensemble Stars) VS Papalymo (Final Fantasy XIV)
Owen Harper (Torchwood) VS Sawyer (Lost)
Chloe Bourgeois (Miraculous Ladybug) VS Heather (Total Drama)
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My Gavin Reed hcs that would make his stans pissed:
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okay but this is fucking sad. kara is not even in the featured character tags anymore. she only has 1697 fics. even fucking SUMO the dog has more fics than her
#captain's log#detroit become human#i hate how gavin is in ELEVEN THOUSAND FICS!!!!!!!! ELEVEN FUCKING THOUSAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#anti gavin reed#- before anyone comes for my ass#gavin stans will be blocked#and tina is barely on the game too????? the fuck#undescribed
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oh my god Gavin’s shirt is a long sleeve
#IVE BEEN DRAWING HIM WITH A SHORT SLEEVE SHIRT THIS WHOLE TIME#DAMN IT#AHHH#CURRENT MOOD: CRISIS#this is definitely a PHCK moment#damn imagine stanning a character so obscure that this shit is dramatic#couldn’t be me ;w;#dbh#detroit become human#gavin reed
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Gavin - Hey Nines, pick me up. I need to make an announcement.
*Nines, picking Gavin up so he’s level with Nines’ chin*
Gavin - ATTENTION NERDS, DOUCHEBAGS AND CHRIS.
#Hes holding Gavin by the armpits#like LongCat#gavin is longcat#chris is babey#chris is too sweet to call a nerd or douchebag#he is his own catagory and we love him#and we stan this man#dbh#detroit become human#gavin reed#reed900#detroit evolution#nines#rk900#chris miller
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Hot Take: It’s hard to excuse or even reason with Gavin Reed’s behavior and the fact so much of the fandom is fine with excusing or making their own versions of the character rather than just accept the fact he’s a racist who literally goes out of his way to abuse Connor. His bio is literally describing him as a scumbag who only cares about himself and the fact that so many people like this shitty ass man who is racist towards androids says so much about this fandom. The game’s core theme is racism as well as injustice, I hate the excuse that Hank managed to change so why can’t Gavin? Gavin shows no dislike to the way he is, he shows no signs of wanting to change I could’ve believed he wasn’t an asshole to his core if for example he has moments of hesitation when he fights Connor or something. But if Connor comes across his path, he always tries to fight with him or humiliate him, always telling him he’s a machine and no it’s not because he worked his ass of to get to where he is, he’s stepped over a few people’s toes and is cutthroat in work. I don’t care if you like him as he is but to completely try to make up excuses as for why he is the way he is, for humiliating Connor, for beating him up when he wasn’t a threat to him and shooting Connor if you fail enough quick-time events. In a way you guys see the androids just how Gavin sees them because I can bet everything that if Connor was a poc and Gavin had said racial slurs to him no one would fucking stan his ass. But because Connor was born with a mechanical body, the racism and the humiliation he’s felt is supposed to not be as bad as racism based on appearance when the racism that Connor and so many androids face is just like regular racism. But so many people excuse it so they can fetishize Gavin and MLM, I hate this man so much and the fact so many of ya’ll excuse his racism that he doesn’t try to change at all and him just being a total asshole is so disappointing. Not to mention people try to also excuse Tina’s behavior or like Tina more than Gavin saying she’s a lesbian and whatnot, yeah you can like her but you can’t ignore the fact that she was complicit in his racism towards androids. She let it happen and didn’t try to stop him or anything, so tbh Tina isn’t that great. Some people can change but that’s the entire problem, people always want to redeem a character who has done a lot of bad most of the time they go about it the wrong way, the ignore those the person hurt, or believe one shitty apology will fix things. The fact that Gavin’s birthday gets celebrated and that the fucker is getting shit like merch and films made on him is so damn sad. Markus deserves it. Connor deserves it. Kara does. So many other people deserve it but Gavin? Fuck no. Fuck off. Stop ignoring the androids in favor of these human characters or better yet please try to pay attention to the androids and poc in the game which are ignored in favor of guys like Gavin. Gavin is a huge piece of shit who appears to have no intentions of changing, no intentions of trying to better himself, and only cares about himself and you guys act like this man would be supportive of LGBTQ people or not having racist tendencies towards poc. He is a shitty person and stop trying to excuse this 30-something year old man who has no excuse, hold Gavin Reed accountable for his fucking racism and stop fetishizing him and putting him with those he was racist to. A racist has to want to change on his own, see the fucking close-mindedness he had, they have to want to change for themselves and not because of love. Gavin Reed is a racist. Please accept that and please stop making excuses for this shitty rat man.
#anti gavin reed#gavin reed#detroit become human#dbh#dbh gavin#no I do not care that I put it in the gavin reed tag#most people need to open their eyes to see that this a racist man#but because connor isn't human you guys in a way water down the racism and abuse he brutally does to connor#if this man was screaming the n word and shit most of you guys wouldn't stan him but then again fandoms always do this shit#twd did it and now everyone thinks racists are redeemable when it takes so much for them to even be considered redeemable or not shitty.
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When I was choosing my username, I honestly picked it because I was into reed900 at the time and it was the first thing that came to mind.
I didn’t mind Gavin but he wasn’t my favourite or anything like that.
But now, I’m like “yeah, I’m a Gavin Reed stan, what of it?”
#detroit: become human#dbh#gavin reed#I swear that every day that passes I fall for Gavin more and more#judge me all you want but he is attractive to me 🤷♀️#mine#mine: texts#mine: dbh
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Nines : kitten
Gavin : sorry ??? What did you call me ?
Gavin : I hate petnames.
*Nines doing puppy eyes that gavin can't resist much longer than 1sec*
Gavin : ...
Gavin : okay but just that one.
#nines#rk900#gavin reed#reed900#detroit become human#dbh#incorrect dbh quotes#i stan Nines puppy eyes#Gavin allowed Nines to call him 1 billion of other petnames with the just that one thing
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The whole second trailer was so good but these are my favorite shots 😭❤️
So excited for the whole movie, April is gonna be the best month with Nightwish making their return after 5 years, then the Black Widow movie and this masterpiece 🖤
DETROIT: EVOLUTION (2020)
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Just a thought about how Gavin antis are embarrassingly hilarious as fuck. These people talk shit about how pathetic of a character Gavin is, or how they downgrade his character one paragraph after another yet post about it so frequently like the guy is living free rent in their heads. I'm embarrassed for them. 😂
If I hate or dislike a character/celebrity, I wouldn't put all my attention to them. Save your energies on spreading love and hype to your favorite characters instead, not to the ones you want their guts on the floor.
I'm not saying people aren't allowed to scrutinize and put up a 20-page essay/post about how this character is despicable and whatnot but to do it frequently is quite... telling, tbh.
Ps. Gavin stans are excluded from this. Go and post a 100-page essay or post 24/7 about this man. Y'all have the utmost right to hype up the man.
Them: "How dare the 'Gavin Reed' tag be one of the most popular?!" Me: "Honey, you're adding to it daily."
I can tell you rn that Gav haters are more obsessed with him than I am, and I've not only written a 135k story where he's the main lead, but I'm currently adapting that fic into a 3D WebComic. Not even I think about him as much as they do and I adore the guy. Unlike them, I have a relatively fulfilling life.
It's projection whenever they call him pathetic.
I've mentioned before how these individuals bring him up even on completely unrelated topics. Their lives are so uneventful, sheltered, and miserable/sad that they have time to shit on a fictional character. A fictional character that would legit just laugh at them if he was real.
Mature ppl don't focus their energy on hate bc that simply makes us miserable for no reason. The amount of times I've seen "hate posts" on Gav is, indeed, embarrassing. The ppl making them could benefit from getting professional help and needs to get their shit sorted out. As much as I don't like overtly positive ppl, I can't stand overtly negative ppl more. At least the positive ones don't let hatred consume them. They're simply more mature and in control of their emotions.
There are plenty of characters I dislike. Yet I haven't made a single post dedicated to shitting on them and never will. I have better things to do.
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When D:BH is trending but its only because of a R**d900 fanfilm
#i'm tired y'all#i'm really tired#i can't physically deal with this anymore#like i'm not gonna bully octopunkmedia over this but at the same time#i just can't deal with the hoards of gavin reed stans coming back#i get that there's a very fine line between fanon and canon gavin but as it stands#i write gavin as canon and have no plans on giving him a redemption arc in any of my fics because guess what#sometimes people just stay shitty and never learn from their mistakes#not every antagonistic character needs redemption okay#when you will all learn thaaat#ogkfhlfhghfg#pls#detroit become human#detroit: become human#dbh#d:bh
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when fics have reed redemption and they still make him call connor shit like “plastic” and “tin can” and make connor okay with that like it’s just some quirky behaviour and not fucking gross and obnoxious..................................................................please die 🤢
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