#game of thrones 8x02 predictions
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winterisfinallyhere · 6 years ago
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Tried some new tags, regretted it immediately
It's really strange to read none-Jonsa/ pol!Jon theories and predictions when you've spent a lot of time in the Jonsa tag. Spec. the JonxD@ny tag. It's (seriously) all variations of Dany will find out about Jon and being happy for him / that they’re family, Sam giving Jorah his family sword to show he's on board with Dandelions. Boat!baby coming soon. The title (which might be The Rightful Queen) and how it's about the north accepting Dany or her somehow showing she's the best ruler ever. Dany in the crypts because she's overseeing making it safe for women/children. Fluffy happiness DxJ kiss-y scenes! Dany will kick ass with her dragons. Sansa and Dany making friends over shared hate of Cersei (which might be OK, but not very exciting). Dead are coming (obvious prediction). Dany won’t kill Jamie for killing her dad because she’s not petty like that (which we knew because he’s alive in the trailer in another outfit.) The most exciting prediction was someone saying 8x02 was sure to feature an AryaxGendry sex scene (which seems unlikely, but points for creativity). 
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How boring and predictable! Like seriously, that’s what everyone thinks is going to happen? Like where is the twist? Where is the Game Of Throne-iness of it? If it was Disney, for sure, but this is GoT. HBO. Something interesting needs to happen in episode 2. Something shocking. Death, mayhem, betrayals, lies and a few bad decisions.
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Else, what’s the point? We can’t keep going down the “let’s all be on the same team but squabble about all sorts of things while we all have a chance to reunite with everyone we ever met while waiting to die but nothing really happens” road. That would just suck majorly.
My 8x02 ep. prediction / wishlist
Jamie’s big thing isn’t about him killing the mad king it’s about him letting them all know about the fact that there is no Lannister army coming. BOOM! Mike drop. That’s what’s going to be the big take away from that scene.
Actual consequences from that reveal. Like Dany considering going to King’s Landing to burn shit down, her losing all her faith in Tyrion, the north trusting team!dany even less or something else equally “bad”.
Hoping for a Jamie kneeling and swearing fealty to Sansa + Arya. Actually doing it right with the kneeling + vows and shit to contrast with the fact no one has ever bent the fucking knee for real to Dany.
Sansa x Dany chat will be big on the tension and lacking in the Hair Braiding that Was Promised.
Little Tree Climbing Boy (or some other random kid) will go missing. Or more food problems with the dragons. Not sure we’ll get actual dead kids at this point (maybe not until some episodes later) but more hints of the problems with lack of food and what dragons eat.
Jon in denial about the parent reveal. Sam / Bran letting someone else in on the reveal seems like a possibility to make stuff happen here. That’s more of a wish than a prediction. Possibly Gilly will tell? I’d love a Gilly / Sansa or a Gilly / Arya scene.
Dany showing more of her ruthless “bad-ass” queen side, which goes over less than stellarly in the north.
More northerners being all “we don’t trust the Targs. Targs can’t be trusted.” making Jon even less likely to want to reveal whose his real parents were. Also making Jonsa marriage alliance more likely in later episodes.
Possibly an Arya / Gendry moment.
Sansa planing for the small folk, setting up the crypts, but in the end, not being down there for some reason.
Gendry revealed as the son of Robert Baratheon and some actual consequences for that. Because why bring him back after like 100 seasons if he wasn’t going to be a little bit important.
Hopefully, a Bran/ Jamie scene where Jamie asks for forgiveness and Bran is all 3ER weird but goes something like “it was destiny.”
Sam + Jon (or even everyone) finding out the Taryls were burnt alive.
Jon acting super weird around everyone because of the reveal. 
Jon is NOT going to tell Dany about the parental reveal. That’s my biggest prediction. Not in a million years. My boy Jon knows what Dany would think of that. (”That’s treason”)
My Jonsa heart hopes for more candlelit fighting scenes with even more UST now that Jon knows they’re cousins. Some sort of goodbye thing since the ep is probably going to end with the Battle of Winterfell starting with more unsaid stuff and looks. 
Reunions: Sansa / the Hound. Not sure how that will go but I think there maybe should be one. Tyrion / Jamie. Jamie / Brienne (my babies). Theon / Sansa?
I don’t predict much Jonsa just yet. I feel like these three first episodes are basically setup for the actually juicy bits, like Dance of Dragons 0.2, possible Sansa kidnap plot, Jon identity crisis ending with him picking the Starks in the end, possibly a “battle of the three Queens”, Jonsa wedding, love over duty, all that good stuff.
Those are my predictions. We’ll see in 30-ish hours how much I got right! And if you accidentally read some discouraging posts/ search some tags that make you doubt, remember who he turned around for...
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nightqueendany · 6 years ago
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GOT 8x02 Trailer Breakdown
The trailer starts with a meeting in the Great Hall of Winterfell with something that looks almost like a trial for Jaime...but it’s likely just a war council meeting and he’s a part of that. First item on the agenda, get update on how castle preparations are going. Second item on the agenda, decide whether to murder Jaime or not. That kind of thing. (I’m kidding. More on that below)
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Jon, Dany, and Sansa are leading this meeting which surprises me because I hadn’t expected Jon to be “well” enough after the parentage reveal to attend this. But, as I keep saying and keep saying, GOT doesn’t allow it’s characters time to process things so in that sense, of course Jon would be here. He’s just silently suffering in the corner. Dany tells Jaime in the preview, “When I was a child, my brother would tell me a bedtime story, about the man who murdered our father, and all the things we would do to that man.”
Of course we’re meant to think Dany will want to kill Jaime, but my guess is this is just how she starts her speech to intimidate Jaime, after which she will tell the room what Tyrion told her about why Jaime killed the Mad King - I believe Tyrion told her about the wildfire plot back in 6x09 or something. But point is, Dany knows. She knows what her father planned to do, she isn’t going to be angry at Jaime for killing the Mad King.
But she still has a right to be angry that Jaime didn’t protect her, her mother, Viserys, Elia, and Elia’s children after Aerys was dead. This could be mentioned in the meeting but I doubt it. Although I wish it would be, because this was Jaime’s real crime. Not protecting the family he was also sworn to protect. (I would die though if Dany brings up Elia and her and Rhaegar’s children right in front of Jon, reminding him he had siblings he never had the chance to meet. UGH give it to me! But they likely won’t).
We’ve got the typical shots of Dany and Sansa looking upset:
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In the snippet above, Sansa appears as if she’s about to cry. I have a very strong feeling that after Dany forgives or even thanks Jaime killing Aerys, Sansa will say something about “And what about why you pushed my brother through a window? Did you do that to save a million people?” The look on Sansa’s face here is the exact same look she had when Baelish was on trial, when she finally knew the truth about what Baelish had done to her family and she’s now looking at Jaime that same way. Sansa would hate Jaime knowing what he did to Bran and how much of the conflict between the Starks and Lannisters is also half Jaime’s fault (the other half having been started by Baelish). Actually, thinking about all this now, I’m nearly convinced that this little impromptu questioning of Jaime will greatly mirror Baelish’s trial!
Tyrion may try to come to Jaime’s defense, he appears to be looking at Sansa here, or maybe Dany, who knows.
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But, of course, Bran will straighten everything out and remind everyone of priorities:
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Bran didn’t die, he needed Jaime to push him so he could become the Three Eyed Raven, it was fate, Jaime is now in Winterfell to help, the dead are coming, none of this petty political nonsense is important.
Jaime will be told, probably by Bran, about the Wall coming down and the Night King and Army of the Dead marching on Winterfell:
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After the trial, Sansa and Dany retreat to the library to continue talking:
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Dany tells Sansa, “He never should have trusted Cersei,” and Sansa replies, “You never should have either.”
However, it’s unclear here which “he” Dany is talking about because it could mean either Jon, Tyrion, or Jaime. Arguments could be made for each, the two strongest candidates being Tyrion and Jon, but Tyrion is my best guess.
Tyrion was the one who came up with the wight hunt plan in the first place, all so Dany wouldn’t fly to King’s Landing and burn down Cersei in the Red Keep. In the scene above, Sansa will likely tell Dany that that was exactly what she should have done. It’s certainly what Sansa would have done, with her knowing Cersei much better than Dany and knowing what Cersei is capable of, don’t @ me.
This will be when Sansa and Dany start to find common ground. I already SPECULATED that Dany and Sansa would discuss/bond over Cersei:
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(GODS I love when I’m right). I think in this conversation, Dany and Sansa will have a Dany/Olenna-like moment. Sansa is already suspicious of Tyrion, telling him to his face in 8x01 “I used to think you were the cleverest man alive” or whatever she said. NOW, she’s really going to be suspicious of him knowing Cersei was indeed lying. Sansa may even try to convince Dany to leave Winterfell and go quickly take care of Cersei by “being a dragon”, burning down the Red Keep, etc.
Anyway, after this meeting, the Dany/Sansa tension will be eased a little bit. They’ll at least have a certain respect for each other that wasn’t there before even if they’re not “friends” yet. 
We’ve got a curious shot of Jorah unsheathing a sword to look at it:
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MANY people have analyzed the shit out of Jorah’s sword and believe it’s Heartsbane, the ancestral Valyrian steel sword of House Tarly. I haven’t really looked into that but as per the shot above, I’d say it’s at least a new sword to Jorah, hence why he’s examining it. If Sam did give Jorah Heartsbane, it was likely right before this, Sam telling him something like Jorah’s a true warrior, he needs a true sword, Sam’s not a fighter, can’t wield it well anyway, something like this.
Also, if Sam gives Jorah Heartsbane, it means their friendship is still intact after the Dany-Tarly fiasco. Jorah may even be the one to help Sam come to not entirely hate Dany for killing his father and brother. After all, after everything Sam’s been hearing about Dany since way back in S5, he appeared to have had admiration for her until he found out what she did to his family. So his hatred of her, I don’t believe, will last.
Dany visits Jon in the crypts:
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And as has been pointed out, Dany appears to be coming from further back in the crypts IF Jon is indeed standing in front of Lyanna’s statue. Even in 8x01, we saw Sam come in from Jon’s left and Dany comes in from the Jon’s right. As we saw baby Sam, Gilly, and Varys hiding in the crypts, it’s possible she and Jon were down there making preparations and Jon left early to go stand in front of Lyanna and when Dany leaves from prepping the lower crypts for people to hide, this is when she finds Jon.
I still believe she won’t know what’s going on with Jon yet, she’ll likely ask him because my guess is he’s been distant toward her since Sam told him the truth. My best guess for how Dany will react is that she’ll be shocked, but she won’t be mad. This will be quite the thing to have Dany process as well because she had long thought she was the last Targaryen and had no family left and now she’ll find out that, in fact, she was never alone and has had Jon all along.
As they flew the dragons together in 8x01, I think she’ll bring this up with Jon, maybe say it’s fitting that he rode the dragon that was named for his real father. Dany could even bring up that Jon reminds her of Rhaegar, or at least, what she’s heard about her brother, all his goodness.
It’s unclear if Jon and Dany will reconcile this in this episode. I can’t imagine them fighting over this but Jon maybe still be distant with Dany, needing more time to process. He’ll likely reiterate that he doesn’t want to be King, she is his queen. Rumor has it the name of this episode is “The Rightful Queen”. That’s not backed up with evidence at all but it would make sense if Jon names Dany the rightful Queen. Dany may insist Jon is the heir if he’s Rhaegar’s son - this is the only thing I can imagine them fighting about, Dany pushing Jon to embrace his heritage, Jon either being really confused or telling Dany he doesn’t want anyone else to know about this.
Next we get some shots of the Winterfell courtyard and though these scenes had these flipped in order in the preview, I think we get this shot of Jon first:
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Jon looking toward the gate because one blast sounds, announcing Tormund and the Night’s Watch‘s arrival. And then we get this scene next:
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Where Tormund tells Jon how much time they have:
“How long do we have?” “Before the sun comes up tomorrow.”
I find Tormund’s words strange. “Before the sun comes up tomorrow.” Uhh...so when exactly will the AOTD arrive? Later that night before the sun comes up? Will they arrive the next morning? We know the battle is a night battle so if the AOTD arrive in the morning, does that mean they just stand there until it turns dark and then they attack the castle?? I’m seriously so confused.
But regardless, after Tormund arrives, Winterfell has one day to prepare for the battle. I think the dead will arrive later that night because Jon is wearing the same thing he wears in the clips we’ve seen from the season trailer of the battle. So it makes sense Jon wouldn’t have time to change into that blue boiled leather outfit.
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We get the above brief clip of Jon, Ed, and Sam, the three original remaining Night’s Watchmen. This is when Jon and Sam will have their exchange, “Think back to where we started,” “Now it’s just us.” It’s just those three left, they are the watchers on the Wall. It looks like the AOTD is possibly in the background. Or maybe that’s just trees. Who knows.
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And the trailer ends with a shot of Tyrion on the battlements of Winterfell in a shot that is incredibly reminiscent of when he was on the battlements of King’s Landing before the Battle of Blackwater back in Season 2.
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I’m thinking this is where the episode will end or it will end when the dead start to march on the castle.
Some thoughts/predictions I have about the episode that were not shown in the trailer:
Dany’s pregnancy. We could get hints of this this episode but likely, it won’t be revealed until after the battle. Dany will be injured, Wolkan or someone else will tend to her wounds and realize it and tell her or Jon or both.
Arya/Gendry. In the preview, we did hear Arya’s speech about how the God of death has many faces - I think she’s talking to Gendry as he gives her the spear he made for her. I have a weird feeling that Bran told Arya she would need a dragonglass spear otherwise, why would she need one? And getting super tinfoily, this could be what Arya uses to defeat the Night King (because I have a feeling it will be Arya who lands the fatal blow to him). Aside from the spear, I really think we will get an Arya/Gendry kiss in this episode, I’m praying for a sex scene or at least, an implied sex scene.
We should get our first Arya/Dany scene in this episode because they haven’t shared a real scene together yet. Who knows what they’ll talk about, Jon likely and all the brooding he’s been doing. Neither of them will know what’s wrong with him and if Dany does, she wouldn’t tell Arya as per Jon’s wishes.
More Davos bringing up wedding stuff and more Tyrion trying to ignore it. Bonus if Sansa is there and Tyrion’s aversion to a Jon/Dany wedding makes Sansa even more suspicious of him, because why would he be opposed to such an idea?
Gilly, hopefully, and Ghost. Bonus if they’re shown together (as we’ve seen Ghost protect Gilly before). Extra bonus if this is when Dany meets them both for the first time.
I’d love some private Jaime/Dany talk or Jaime/Jon talk but we likely won’t get it. My fingers are crossed though.
Definitely Jaime/Brienne. Bonus if we get jealous Jaime once Tormund shows up and won’t stop eye-fucking Brienne. Extra bonus if the Hound sees all of this and tells Jaime something like, if he wants Brienne, he better claim her now or else Tormund will.
Probably Bran/Dany, him telling her everything she’s done has brought her home. I’m really hoping for this. Fingers crossed!
Maybe Sam/Dany with her trying to explain why she did what she did and Sam not being open to listening to her. Probably Sam/Gilly though with Gilly trying to talk some sense into Sam because we all know how Gilly felt about Randyll Tarly.
Possibly more Night King symbol stuff. As Beric said, he’s sending a message, we just don’t know what that message is yet.
Let me know what you guys think!
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adecila · 6 years ago
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Game of Thrones – A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms - 8x02 episode analysis (kind of)
…or the episode we should have gotten last week.
And we’re back! I am not here to shit on last week’s episode I actually enjoyed it very much, if you just take it for what it was, but! I cannot help but remark how much better episode 2 has been to us… the writing was very very good and rich, and in character, and it finally feels like GoT and… I honestly don’t know what happened in episode 1. But moving on…
As you can already tell, this is going to my personal summary, thoughts and analysis of episode 02 of season 8. Going to put it all under a cut – spoilers, you have been warned.
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Are you an Oathkeeper or on Oathbreaker? Or the Jaime Fucking Lannister Fest
Listen I am not calling this a trial, because it is not. Yes I know they call it a trial in the BTS and Inside the episode.
Dany’s speech about Jaime’s deeds against House Targaryen is very good. As I have mentioned in my preview analysis, this is the first time (third time is a charm ha) that Jaime and Dany speak to one another. She doesn’t know this man. This man tried to kill her and he killed her father.
I got right half of the stuff at least, for what it’s worth. Tyrion looks soooo sooo bad. LIKE YOU KNEW YOUR SISTER? Oh the glare!!! If looks could kill, Tyrion would be dust. LiStEn, Tyrion, honey. Sit down. Jeez, read the room, you are not making it better. Dany is right - why should she trust this man? And Sansa is right there with her… until Brienne speaks. 
Gwen called Brienne’s speech something “almost like a declaration of love” and I think that is so beautiful it hurts. Not a Braime fan, but hey you got fed fam, I am happy for you! I already mentioned in my live blogging that it was either incoherent or just plain retcon to forget that Sansa sent Brienne to KL because she thought Brienne would kill her if it meant a showdown with Arya. But I digress. 
I find it very interesting how Jaime didn’t apologise and his cojones to say so because “we were at war” - and I get it, my dude, Ser Hot Stuff, we all know all is fair in love and war, but I guess it would be ooc for him to apologise. Great delivery, I don’t particularly like NCW but this scene? Top notch. I rate it one doggy style fuck out of one, but so good your legs are wobbly and you can barely find the energy to plop on your bed afterwards. 
The things we do for love… and Bran is back with the fucking shit stirring drama. We stan Bran Starkashian. 
I find it interesting since this is also Dany’s chance to show how she rules - Lady Sansa says her opinion, which surprises Dany. Then she turns to Jon, who the entire time has been very very quiet. Like the kind of quiet you are when you have the biggest hangover and you are stuck in class and you just want it to be over with. So Jon says what he could say to get the fuck out of there. “We need every man we can get.” So Jaime is given his sword back after Grey Worm literally gives him the I AM WATCHING YOU BITCH glare. 
But Jon’s chair is not facing forward, it is slightly oriented towards Dany’s. Notice how he doesn’t look at her, even when she addresses him directly. She gets up and everyone does so afterwards FINALLY SOME FUCKING RESPECT and she turns to Jon… and he doesn’t even look at her… and my baby looks heartbroken because he just ignores her *coughs* As soon as the meeting ended, he rushed out, not giving her a chance to say a word. *coughs*
In defence of Jon… Know what, we’ll talk about Jon later, when we get to the reveal. 
Oh and Bran totes doesn’t care about Jaime enough to expose him in front of the entire Great Hall. Because ya know, he is a drama queen, but he keeps his cards close, he either already has a plan for Jaime or as he said, and as I have predicted from the preview, it serves no purpose to expose Jaime for what he did to Bran. Like just click on it and read it. Good that Bran called him out on his apology naaah bitch you don’t get to go holier than thou here. It is what it is. 
Me at Bran this episode:
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Jaime and Tyrion’s conversation is very interesting, not only about Dany in general whether she is worthy or not, and Tyrion seems to be team Dany. Was it just me or Tyrion more like whispered the part where he talks about Cersei’s baby. Also also listen Jaime, unless you’re suddenly a gynaecologist how the fuck do you know she is not lying? I loved how Tyrion called Jaime out on the fact that he loved Cersei despite knowing full well what and who she was. Dude let’s call it what it was. Don’t play coy now. 
Ding ding ding Tyrion mentions marching to KL and killing Cersei … and that’s all I am gonna say about it.
Jaime x Brienne wow this ship is getting so fed - enjoy babies ! And I loved how Brienne was suddenly WHY ARENT YOU INSULTING ME I DONT KNOW HOW TO INTERACT TO YOU !!!! Brienne is leading the left flank and Jaime wants to be led by her. Keep in mind for next week’s episode! I am so proud of my son Pod, I am basically proudmom!Brienne tbh. 
The episode in which Dany gets a lot of counsel - because that’s also the type of ruler she is 
Tyrion x Varys x Jorah vs Dany - Dany gives the best scolding ever tbh. Moms, take notes, because look at Tyrion’s face. He knows this Christmas when the NK comes he will only get coal. No whores and wine for Tyrion. He was naughty boy.  
KHALESSI - Listen. I don’t like Jorah in the books, and my impression of show!Jorah has always been tainted by it. But this Jorah is redeemed and deserves to live I WILL RIOT IF HE DIES. The scene he has with Dany is one of my favourites because it just shows how much history they have together. I will sob if he dies because he is the only one left from S1E01 with her.  Jorah tells her to forgive Tyrion and seek out S.ansa to smooth things over. MY BEAR
S.ansa x Daenerys - First time I thought it was going well, they were bonding… and then S.ansa leaned forward and the hand placing seemed a bit too deliberate to me, too Margaery. What I am trying to say is that it is very hard to know if S.ansa is being genuine. It is a very good scene and it holds a lot of importance later on, more on that when I talk about the reveal in the last scene (and I this is what I wanted from episode 1 - cold but courteous.) 
S.ansa tells Dany Jon loves her and that “men do stupid things for the women they love, they’re easily manipulated” - which, fair point; she saw Cersei and Margaery do it. Buuuut she also had the counter-argument: she saw how Littlefinger manipulated her aunt. So it goes both ways, bby. 
“All my life I have known one goal: the Iron Throne […] until I met Jon 
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INTERRUPTING THIS PROGRAMME TO FLAIL BECAUSE HOLY SHIT WE FINALLY HEAR DANY CALL HIM “JON” ON SCREEN YES YES FUCKING FINALLY THANK YOU BABY JESUS AND MARY AND THE ENTIRE TEAM OF 12 APOSTLES  
“Now I am here, half a world away, fighting Jon’s war alongside him. Tell me, who manipulated whom?”  - I love how Dany turns the tables here, because she is right; if Dany was manipulating Jon, then how come she is the one here, fighting with all her men and resources and dragons? Who gains from this more? SEE S.ANSA IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE IF YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN- 
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FINALLY SOME GOOD FUCKING CONTENT. 
Then S.ansa goes for that smile ugh and agaaaain I am having soooo much trouble taking it for genuine. 
“I am here because I love your brother and I trust him and I know he is true to his word […]” I AM DEAD DEAD DEAD 
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And then it goes to shite because S.ansa is now clearly drawing inspiration from Theresa fucking May since she has no fucking skills to bring up Brexit - is it Nexit? Dany retreating her hands tho - she feels played LIKE REALLY BITCH I WAS SPEAKING FROM MY HEART AND YOU WERE JUST BUYING TIME HERE. 
Theonsa everywhere - or the ship you never thought would happen in this show yet you can’t help but ship it 
That hug!!!! Wow I loved it!!! Sophie and Alfie killed it. Also watch Dany in the background - my baby!!! Do you know how hard it is being around people with big families when you’re… alone? It’s fucking depressing, and I just want to hug Dany and carry her to safety. 
We got 3 Theonsa moments (and one was a Jonerys parallel so you know the romantic undertones are strong) in this episode soooo yeah! Enjoy! I am afraid they are setting Theon up to die, especially since it would be poetic cinema.jpeg for him to die defending Bran after he took WF from him.
Also also feels like book!Theon and show!Theon are colliding again. 
The Merry Men and the Night’s Watch leftovers ; and Ghost for 3 seconds - you’re welcome ; the Hound and Beric; Missandei and Grey Worm
Tormund calling Jon “little crow” was fucking everything! did you catch Jon’s smile??? Precious baby!!! And then asking about Brienne!!!! But did you catch Jon’s face when he saw Sam was also there - like ugh you again - BYE 
Missandei x Grey - one of them is totally dead BYE I AM GONNA FLUNG MYSELF OUT THE WINDOW 
Sam x Jon on the battlements - ugh Sam really you are looking soooooo bad right now. Jon’s face is again precious. He is so over Sam atm and he is just like WHEN WILL THE NK COME FOR ME BECAUSE IF I HAVE TO STAY ONE MORE SECOND WITH THIS BITCH ISTG– Then I got emo when Edd came up. Damn. Watch Edd die too… I feel it in mah bones. That’s how the last of the NW dies. 
Arya x The Hound - I get soooo many dad feels from the Hound tbh and I love it. My guess the Hound makes it. Beric tho??? hmmm Idk about that. 
Tormund is fucking insane and I love him
THE BRIENNE KNIGHTING WAS EVERYTHING AND I CANT EVEN LOOK AT THE GIFS WITHOUT SOBBING MAH HEART - also!!! Dunk and Egg reference - Brienne parallel?? And the title of the episode! ugh Summerhall references? BRIENNE DO NOT DIE 
Sam gives Jorah Heartsbane - Good. It’s what Jorah deserves. *pushes Sam out of the shot*
Pod singing Jenny’s Song is tearing me apart and making me sob harder I FUCKING LOST IT AND I AM STILL GETTING CHILLS YALL THIS WAS FUN. SEEMS EVERYONE DIES. No, I jest. But I love how they paired up the couples for a tragic love song - Brienne x Jaime, Sam x Gilly, S.ansa x Theon, Arya x Gendry, Missandei x Greyworm, Jon x Dany. I wouldn’t look too much into the song choice tbh, since in Inside the episode they say they knew they wanted a song and they just picked this one and added more verses since it was incomplete. I know this is the second Summerhall reference, but ya know, I personally wouldn’t look too much into it.  Edit: I should have never trusted D&D - now go read these amazing posts made by @tomakeitbeautifultolive in which she explains the song and the significance for Jonerys. Also Ramin Djawadi spoke about the song and fed our fandom just today (April 25th).
The War Council or let’s gather around Bran Starkashian so he can spill some tea on the NK
Plan sounds basic imo, not that I had expected much about that, but in Miguel we trust and we know he will absolutely crash this battle in episode 3. 
Interesting how the casually dropped that apparently the NK’s goal is to destroy Bran. And the mention of the mark - so now basically Bran is chipped. Cool beans. Sam’s remark about “death is forgetting, being forgotten is very interesting. Memories don’t come from books, your stories aren’t just stories.” - interesting take here. I Sam writing the book about Jonerys? If so I am afraid he has A FUCKING BIAS OMG I AM GETTING HEATED AGAIN. Also my friend @iane-casey  was totally annoyed how much screen time Sam got which honestly same dude I am still pissed at you *joins Jon to brood and glare at Sam*
Dany publicly makes a point in that she still needs Tyrion aka he is forgiven so that there is no bad blood between them. 
Lmao my friend @zavocado says we should totes just tape Bran to Drogon’s belly and lure the NK away from WF *grabs the duct-tape* 
FINALLY A MAP: listen, they are outnumbered as fuuuuck… besides that it is clear that Dany’s forces will get the most hit since they are in the vanguard, Birenne on the left with the Knights of the Vale and some Stark forces, on the right we get the rest of the North, and the Mormonts are inside the gates! 
Jon walks on Dany a second time - Dany stops as the room clears out (Qhono and Jorah and Varys behind her), looks expectandly at Jon, he doesn’t look at her (MY BABY BOY HE LOOKS SO ROUGH DID HE EVEN SLEEP?), falters “Your Grace”, and bolts. She falters, her face is all WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING and she clears the room too. More on that at the end.
Gendrya or the OTP you did not know you need and why you fucking need it
First of all, this fandom is so pure. I loooooved all the Gendrya on my dash from episode 1 and then this episode I got flooded and I am here for it bitch. Give me all the feels.
I cannot wait to see Arya with her new weapon!!! 
GENDRY IS SO SHOOKETH BY ARYA AND I LOVED THAT SHE TOPPED HIM
I HAVE A SON YOU HAVE A DAUGHTER LET’S JOIN OUR HOUSES
The gendrya - jonerys parallels??? EVERYTHING JUST WOW
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Jonerys parentage reveal 2.0 or the reveal Jon also deserved not the travesty he got
I will do a play by play of the scene, but first. Why does Jon avoid Dany? Simple. He is hurting. Since we get the Jaime vs Bran stare down and then we get the Jaime trial, it is safe to assume that happens the morning after Sam blurted the truth to Jon about his mom and dad. 
So at Jaime’s fake trial, Jon had what? A few hours at best to process everything - and by that I mean: Dany is his aunt; Ned lied to him his entire life (no matter the reason, Jon has been raised a certain way and to hear the man who was so honourable was capable of the biggest lie in the realm… das huge! so this is shocking his entire moral compass and belief system built upon the education his dad gave him); his dad actually loved his mom and married her so he is no longer a bastard - ya know aka the thing that affected his entire life and the thing he wanted most; his mom died giving birth to him and she managed to think of him in her last moments, enough to make Ned promise her he will take care of her son; the fact that if Robert even caught a whiff of it, he would have been dead. SO that is a LOT LOT. 
Which explains why Jon was so out of it when he is asked about Jaime. Also explains why he bolts out of the room without looking at Dany - I think if he had even so much as looked at her he would have broken down. He isn’t ready for it.
Oh the stuff I mentioned he had to come to terms with? On top of all of it we must add the stress of finding a way of telling all of this to Dany in a way that he doesn’t hurt her. Also I bet your ass he thought there was a chance she may not believe him (he himself did not in the beginning)… and a chance she may think he wants the throne since Sam drilled this into his head so now he is afraid of that too. 
So when Jon is in the war room he had what? around 12 hours in total since Sam told him? 15? 20? Do you think that’s enough? Because I don’t. But this time he is doing much better. So he is still not looking at Dany, but he addressed her “Your Grace” and leaves - which means he is already in a better place than where he was in the morning, but not quite there yet. 
This is good angst. We should rejoice, it will hurt before it gets better. 
Moving on. Why didn’t he just directly go to Dany? I honestly don’t think it’s in Jon’s character to seek out comfort. This is a kid who had no one to go to when he would hurt himself. That shit stays with you. You don’t just flip a switch and start seeking out your other half. No, in moments of stress the brain reverts to things it knows bets, to muscle memory and old habits; it uses the energy to overthink itself to death so ain’t nobody got time for that new behaviours shit. At this point jonerys have been together for how long? 3? 4 weeks? That’s not that much. They are used to each other, but not enough to break old habits and past traumas. 
Now, the reveal: 
Dany stops, silently asking permission before she approaches Jon. Poor bean must be a bit hurt that he avoided her twice, so better make sure he actually wants her company. Jon actually smiles at her, even if it is a sad smile. It kills me how he is just staring at him mom’s statue. KILLS ME. Only then, she approaches him (look at her face, brief relief!). She stops next to him, he turns to her and nods, and only THEN SHE EMBRACES HIS SIDE, HOLDING HIS HANDS, CHIN TO HIS SHOULDER.
“Who is that?”
“Lyanna Stark.” Jon eventually says
Dany looks a bit like oh… shit, again my family yikes… I would say she looks apologetic. “My brother Rhaegar, everyone told me he was decent and kind. He liked to sing. Gave money to poor children. And he raped her” - ok but this is big, because Dany just in S7 recognised her own rape… So no wonder her opinion on Rhaegar is not that good atm. 
“He didn’t” 
Dany looks shook, but she is still holding onto Jon. Notice how his hand is on hers? 
“He loved her.” 
She doesn’t interrupt. Jon almost looks like he is feeling brave, so he keeps her hand into his and turns to face her. 
“They were married in secret. After Rhaegar fell on the Trident, she had a son. Robert would have murdered the baby if he ever found out and Lyanna knew it.”
Dany is surpised, but so far so good. Jon stares into her eyes.
“So the last thing she did as she bled to death on her birthing bed was give the boy to her brother” – camera on Emilia — oh shit for a split second it starts to show that she is putting two and two together – “Ned Stark” – her eyes widen and she blinks – “to raise as his bastard” – she exhales, breathing accelerates – “My name,” – breathing heavily on her part –  “my real name” -- she looks incredulous and nods a smal no – “is Aegon Targaryen” – she blinks, exhales, puls away her hand and turn halfway away from Jon. 
She looks away, then at him, he is almost leaning over her but still too far. “That’s impossible.”
Camera on Jonerys
“I wish it were.” (SEE THIS IS WHAT I AM SAYING MY POOR SON)
“Who told you this?”
“Bran. He was it.”
“He SAW it?” She sound clipped, the ARE YOU KIDDING ME tone clipped 
“And Samwell confirmed it.”He read about their marriage at the CItadel” – camera on Emilia —”without even knowing what it meant” (OK BUT FUCK OFF SAM GILLY READ THAT) - Dany’s face her, she is clearly restraining herself because this sounds insane.
“A secret no one in the world knew, except your brother and your best friend, doesn’t seem strange to you?” she shakes her head and it breaks my heart how you can see the wheels turning in her head going fuck here we go again, I laid my heart bare and that’s it. Yet another betrayal. 
Camera on Kit. He looks at her, takes a step forward “It’s true, Dany.” – camera on Emilia – “I know it is.” (UM HELLO DANY I AM HYPERVENTILATING BITCH)
Dany shakes her head, her face looks full with distrust. Then it goes to despair - her voice shaky “If it were true, it would make you the last male heir of the House Targaryen.” – camera on Kit HE FUCKING FROWNS LIKE WHAT – camera on Emilia – “You’d have a claim to the Iron Throne” – camera on Kit and his face goes again WHA— 
THEN THE FUCKING HORN SOUNDS. Jon turns his head towards the door, but Dany keeps staring at him and she looks heartbroken.
They go out and it’s all business. He nods to her and she leaves. Interesting though - she comes out first. Jon turned back towards the sound so if they were just running out he should have come out first. Either he remembered to be courteous or there is another small exchange we didn’t get to see. Or maybe I am reading way into things and it was a lame ass decision hahah. 
Ok so the reveal to Dany - you better fucking take notes Sam cuz this is how you do a reveal: being calm, level headed, explaining to the person as much as you can, answering questions.
On Dany’s reaction: my friend @oadara said it so so well in this post here. So, building on that, we need to put her reaction in context, just like I did with Jon’s cold shoulder. Dany’s discussion with S.asnsa is fresh in her mind, not just the part about who is manipulating whom, and that must drive her nuts now, but also the part in which S.asnsa did a 180 on her just when she thought she was making progress, so feeling like she was being manipulated. One of course must start asking questions. Has Jon just found out? Has he always known? Did he seduce her to take her armies and her dragons her her throne?? Moreover, Dany specifically tells S.ansa that her only goal in life has been the Iron Throne. Imagine that - having one goal in life, and suddenly someone comes in and can just rip it all away from you, poof just like that, they just need to say the word. Moreover, males have preference… and so many would rather follow a male than a female. And that’s a fact.  
Moreover… she still thinks herself barren… 
Like I am not saying Dany suddenly hates Jon or will cast him away (ok maybe she will initially I have a prediction/theory I will explain in a different post). I am saying… JUST GIVE DANY TIME. She just found out and now she gotta go save everyone’s ass. Let the girl breathe.
I was asking myself but why would Jon tell her now? If he himself wishes she had never known? I think it may be a very Ned Stark thing - he genuinely thinks he will fall, and he wanted to tell her the truth, because Rhaegar Targaryen may be his dad but Ned Stark is his daddy. 
What do you think? As always, dms and asks are open! 
Will make a preview post and another about my jonerys theory. 
All in all, this episode was incredible and I loved it. I am so not ready for the fight fuuuuuuuuuuuu-
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1, 2, 5 and 6
this is exciting, because i never get asks!
ok.
1) song of the year: i’m really predictable and i rarely listen to NEW SONGS, but i’ll go with wondering, from high school musical the musical the series, because it’s really great and also from this year lmao
2) album of the year: cuz i love you, by lizzo.
5) tv show of the year: four weddings and a funeral was SO GREAT. mindy kaling really is that bitch. also high school musical: the musical: the series is like.... made for me. and his dark materials. i have to mention fleabag too because the second season dropped this year and it was SUPER GREAT. 
6) episode of tv or webisode that defined the year for you: i have to go with game of thrones 8x02, because i was watching this season as a JOKE (also while waiting for veep) and then ‘that hot guy’ appears saying to brienne (her name i knew beforehand) DO YOU WANT ME TO INSULT YOU???? and i was like holy shit.......... this is.... something....... and then, without ever watching previous seasons and even HATING this show with all my being i was SUPER INVESTED in them (it was a shame that the show never got to the part where they kiss, but that was a great finale lmao), because i’m REALLY PREDICTABLE and also:
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talesofafangirlwithadvr · 6 years ago
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Endgame of Thrones (April Picks)
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Does it even matter what else I watched earlier this month because THIS WEEKEND! If every weekend was like this one I don’t know how I could function. Thankfully Game of Thrones’ Battle of Winterfell and Avengers Endgame were on two different days so my body had some time to process it all. But even preparation couldn’t get me ready for all of the action that occurred. Here come the spoilers!
Spoilers.....
Spoilers....
Spoilers...
I’m serious here they come!
GAME OF THRONES 8x03
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After last week’s episode I was FEARFUL for what would come at the Battle of Winterfell. The impending battle that was foreshadowed since the beginning was inevitable and with several (if not all) of the characters reaching a full character development I grew even more worried for their safety. 8x02 had to be one of my favorite episodes of GOT so far because we had some many characters reuniting and under the same roof with these full circles being made. The top moment for me had to be when Brienne of Tarth became Ser Brienne. Then I immediately started hoping she would survive the next episode. (Thanks writers for making us not be able to just enjoy anything anymore.) 
So, last night as 8x03 began I got ready for the worst, unsure if anyone would survive and after watching I have to say that I am shocked at how many people lived through it. (Which once again makes me very fearful for what lies ahead in the rest of the show. There’s no way all of them will make it, right?) Our main focus has been on the Night King and his oncoming dark night that I was SHOCKED when Arya killed him! I thought we would have to fight him for multiple episodes. Okay, I actually thought he wouldn’t have even been at Winterfell. I believed the theory he was going straight for Kings Landing which actually would have probably been the smarter move. After he was killed I sat there for a moment like: What are the next 3 episodes going to be about? Completely forgetting that Cersei exists. 
But that kill! WOW ARYA! I did not see that coming. I thought Jon would have been more of a contributing factor in the Night King’s death due to him being the product of Fire and Ice, but other than getting lost on his dragon Jon basically spent the episode on the sidelines. I was so happy that Arya got to kill the Night King with one of her oldest tricks. Which of course now makes me upset for her safety. Another full character arc? 
I just wish Bran looked more thankful. But then again he only wears one face now-a-days. As I’ve heard several people mention, I really do hope we learn why the Night King was so obsessed with Bran (who btw I was expecting to have more of a role in the fighting).
There’s so much I want to discuss about this episode but let’s take a moment to remember the fallen: Edd, I knew someone would die protecting Sam and it made sense to be him. Your watch has ended. Lyanna Mormont, I was so worried about her and this crushed me, but she went out like she lived: a badass. Beric Dondarrion, so many times I was like how is he still alive? But it was all for a reason as Melisandre predicted he would help Arya survive. Theon Greyjoy, the complete character arc worried me, but I didn’t think we would lose him this soon. He went out protecting Bran, in the place that was his true home and Bran said he was a good man. What is dead may never die. Jorah Mormont, earlier in the episode as he was one of the first ones on the front lines to charge I didn’t feel confident and was all the more impressed as he made it back time after time. But it all made sense as he had to protect Dany one last time. [Man, as I’m writing all of these out they are starting to become realer and I don’t think I can handle it.] And last but not least, Melisandre, who I was pretty shocked to see at the start of this episode. She came in clutch and the living would not have been able to win without her. Valar Morghulis. 
As everyone predicted the crypts were not the “safest place in Winterfell” as once the Night King emerged the dead started to rise. Once again, I was pretty shocked that we didn’t have more major character deaths down here. I loved the touching scene between Tryion and Sansa as we transitioned between the battlefield and the crypt with no audio except for the music track. Very impactful. 
There is so much more I can say, but these were definitely my first thoughts on the episode. I can’t believe the battle has come and gone and now we have to venture back to Kings Landing. Be safe my friends!
AVENGERS ENDGAME
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Over 10 years in the making and 22 films later Avengers Endgame closed a chapter in Marvel history. Walking into the theater I was not emotionally, mentally or physically (3 hours/no bathroom break) prepared. The night before I had re-watched Infinity Wars (and just like with Game of Thrones) prayed for the safety of these heroes. 
I know it was said before but SPOILERS ARE COMING!
My first thought for defeating Thanos seemed to rely on time travel, but I was surprised to see that it took 5 years in the world after the snap before traveling back to get the infinity stones. I LOVED how much of a role Antman aka Scott Lang played in this role. (Thanks to that rat for hitting the right buttons after 5 years.) This character gave us some more insight into what had been going on for that amount of time and of course brought more humor to the film. (I mean he does deliver one of the best lines that gets repeated by Cap later: “That’s America’s butt.”
Opening with the Hawkeye flashback as he has a typical afternoon with his family and then the snap happens where he loses everyone was so tragic. I was not expecting the movie to start that soon as we usually see the classic Marvel opening. The transformation in his character made so much sense and was really interesting to explore. I liked how we got to see both Hawkeye and Antman included where they were missing for the previous film. 
This movie reminded me why I enjoy the MCU so much with all the references to previous films. The site of the first Avengers film: New York City 2012, brought back so many great memories and made me want to rewatch all of them. I loved how we got some exact flashbacks from the movies and then some added scenes showing more of a transition from one movie to the other. (Example: The Avengers to Winter Soldier and Captain America’s “Hail Hydra” moment in the elevator. Of course, I also enjoyed seeing Loki again as it seems that we did truly lose him.) Also seeing clips of old movies from a different angle was cool, like with Starlord singing at the start of Guardians of the Galaxy. Other time events we had never actually been to before, but were still a great trip with Steve seeing Peggy again and Tony his dad. I personally loved seeing Jarvis. 
One of the biggest moments for me was when Captain America held Thor’s hammer during the final battle. It had been predicted in earlier films (particularly Age of Ultron) that he would be worthy enough to wield Mjölnir and they were right. There’s times where he’s using the hammer and the shield and then he alternates with Thor. So good! 
Just as with the Night King in GOT, Thanos is defeated in this film, but it is not without loss on our side. It starts with Black Widow sacrificing herself for the soul stone. I was really hoping there was some sort of loop hole that would bring her back because of all the time travel stuff and was really shocked when Bruce Banner/Hulk said he tried but wasn’t able to get her back. I had heard rumors of Scarlett Johanssen getting her own Black Widow movie so I am a bit confused unless it is a prequel story. Either way I hope this isn’t the last we’ve seen of this hero. Tony Stark’s death was one that I thought might happen going into the movie, but it did not prepare me for it actually happening. As I was talking about before with the full circle character development, Tony experienced this. He was also the kick off to the MCU, so it made even more sense for this ending. His final sentence: “I am Ironman” still gives me chills. While Captain America didn’t technically “die” and lived out his life with Peggy as he always wanted, it was also a goodbye to his character. It was great to see him pass the shield over to Sam but it will still feel a bit strange to not see Steve next film. 
There’s so much more that I can continue to talk about and I know as soon as I publish this article I will probably think of something else to say, but as you can see I definitely enjoyed this movie and can’t wait to see it again in theaters.
So, I survived the weekend! I hope you did too. Let me know how you feel about all of this! 
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nowwavingnotdrowning · 6 years ago
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Game of Thrones 8x02
Well Astolat, and her wonderful stories on ao3, were pretty close on predicting what Jaime would be facing in Winterfell's Great Hall.
Brienne defending Jaime as honoured melts my heart. And Sansa at the mention of Catelyn cracks just a little!
Yeah, Daenerys needs to stop taking her frustrations all out on Tyrion. She's not perfect either.
Arya, stop pulling his non-existent pigtails! Gendry is a man who can adjust his views & is clearly impressed by Arya's levelling up.
Huh. Bran hasn't actually told anyone.
"girl's mouth around my c*ck" So clearly Tyrion said that a lot. Undead!Tyrion would be one way to off Cersei. Oh good grief, that's Pod.
"I'll be honoured to serve under your command if you'll have me" *squee*
(Aside I love all the background of building defenses and the ramparts (and everything else) bristling with dragonglass.)
Jorah Mormont proving that he's an honourable man, yet again.
That The North wants to stand alone shouldn't be a surprise to Daenerys but she hasn't wanted to hear it. She is seriously blinkered about the details of the future beyond getting the Iron Throne.
Theon with his courtly greeting then formerly requesting to Sansa and...hug (this episode has such feel good moments. I fear impending emotional whiplash)
Ser Davos and little girls again. Especially a scarred little girl. Good to see Gilly having found herself a role. She has skills.
*sideswiped by Tormund* "The big woman still here?" Oh Tormund, never change.
Dear goodness everyone is very grim. But Grey Worm and Missandei are very sweet and they found room in the CGI budget for Ghost. Three former Night's Watch men bickering and darkly humourous. Lannister brothers! "The perils of self betterment." Tyrion slipping Pod a full goblet. Tormund: I am crying with laughter and then Ser Davos "Maybe I will have that drink."
The Hound, Arya and Ser Beric. Three fighters who don't quite fit anywhere right now. "I'm not spending my final hours with you two miserable old shits"
Gendrya! Complete with sarcasm and Gendry feeling wrong footed. I swear if the Undead attack right now I won't be amused!
Oh Brienne. Ser Brienne of Tarth. Davos must have smuggled in onions. Such a beautiful song too.
You know nothing about timing, Jon Snow. Oh for pity's sake Daenerys. You actually think Jon and Sam, who you've acknowledged to be honourable men, would make this up? Plus Bran is on a different plane of reality, he doesn't scheme.
That is a crap ton of White Walkers.
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thundersnowstorm · 6 years ago
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thoughts on the first two episodes of got s8
it’s honestly really annoying how they seem to have forgotten that jon bent the knee entirely out of his own volition, that dany was perfectly willing to help the north fight the white walkers without having them bend the knee. the northerners’ ire towards dany is understandable, but fundamentally it was jon’s fault for making such a major decision so impulsively.
he so clearly does not want to be king of anything, i’m honestly surprised dany’s reaction to finding out about r+l was about the threat he posed to her throne. he’s already given up a crown for you bb, he’s not gonna try to make a pass for the iron throne all of a sudden.
the r+l revelation was underwhelming
i feel for sam. i really do. and he has every right to hate dany. but dany was not wrong in burning the tarlys (if we’re going with the established social framework). jon killed plenty of people for disobeying him, has killed plenty of people in battle. the main difference is that we never met those people’s likeable children. so miss me with that dany hate.
dany’s character is honestly all over the place. half the time she’s sweet and bubbly, but then she’ll change in less than a second to be this cold, ruthless queen. and no, i don’t think it’s build up to “mad queen dany”, i think d&d don’t know how to write her consistently and need her to act in certain ways to keep drama going
speaking of drama, i love sansa but jfc….. where’s the girl who said “courtesy is a woman’s armor”? sansa played nice with littlefinger and cersei for seasons, but all of a sudden she doesn’t seem to remember that playing the game means making friends of your enemies. if a queen that your brother has sworn your people to (despite doing it messily as all hell) comes to your castle with dragons to fight your common enemy, it might be a good idea to be at least courteous? being rude is helping absolutely no one. and she certainly has the right to not like dany, but she’s not being particularly smart about how she’s dealing with dany.
this is honestly because of the writing and plotting. sansa’s being played as making smart political decisions and that’s the takeaway you’re supposed to have, but d&d just haven’t truly thought the politics through.
that said, i did really like their scene together in 8x02. it was actually a decent portrayal of two powerful women with different yet equally understandable motivations. 
i’ve been deeply annoyed with jon since season six but i gotta give him credit where credit is due and say at least he’s got his priorities in check. deal with the night king, then politics.
every time they call jon “aegon” i die inside a little bit
needs more ghost. unless they intend to kill ghost in a battle scene. in which case, don’t even let ghost be on screen!!
all the bran memes are hilarious but goddamn i really hate robo!bran. what a butchery of a character who i really do care about.
tyrion trusting cersei was truly the dumbest choice they could’ve made for his character
still don’t care about jaime y’all, sorry
cersei sleeping with euron was the worst and i hated it
theon’s hair looks good! unfortunately the lannisters all have terrible wigs
theon and sansa surprised me, but it has actual build up and it’s the only relationship (with a male, living character) that i can get behind for her. bonding over shared trauma and healing together is my kinda trope
i have mixed feelings about gendry x arya. it was definitely rushed, although that was rather what they were going for (end of the world and all that). seeing arya partially naked…. idk, it’s weird to see a character who has been on the show since she was eleven have a sex scene, even if she is an adult now. i honestly think they should’ve just cut the scene before the nudity, to avoid that weirdness. especially given d&d’s track record with women and nudity.
although it is nice to see them letting arya display more emotions beyond just “assassin”
missandei and grey worm are cute and i love them and i’m p sure he’s gonna die. which i do not want. please don’t kill one of your two black characters, it’d be a real dick move d&d
every time a northerner looks at them, my hackles just go up. stop being racist and leave them alone jfc
ser brienne!!!! she’s so happy and i’m so happy for her and ahhhhhhhh
everyone except dany is in pretty much full black and i hate!!! this!!! wear some color ffs
sansa’s armor outfit looks…..bad
overall it’s been kind of a mess but mostly fun
predictions for the rest of the season:
who was the dumbass who thought putting the noncombatants in the crypts with a bunch of stark corpses in full armor was a good idea??? my theory that westeros has a total of maybe five braincells has yet to be disproved.
no one in the crypts is safe next ep and i am Worried.
unless the show seriously deviates from the books, jaime is killing cersei. not looking forward to it tbh.
there is a decent chance that winterfell is gonna burn and i am not ready Emotionally.
characters that are gonna die: cersei, euron, qyburn, zombie!gregor, jon, grey worm, night king
characters that are probably gonna die but i’m not sure: theon, dany, jaime, jorah, melisandre (if she’s still around?), all three dragons (and possibly ghost but nooooo)
characters that are most likely gonna survive: sansa, arya, sam, yara, gendry
characters that i hope will live but might die for pointless shock value: gilly, missandei, brienne, podrick, lyanna mormont
characters i have no clue about: varys, tyrion, bran, davos, bronn, tormund, dolorous edd
my hope is that the show ends with the iron throne melted down and seven independent kingdoms. thematically, that’d be the most satisfying. i don’t trust d&d with themes tho so we’ll see.
so far it seems like next ep is gonna be the Big Epic Battle where they defeat the night king, then the last three eps are about dealing with cersei and picking up the pieces. idk how i feel about this, since it kinda frames cersei as the Big Bad. we’ll see how it ends up.
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ao3feed-gendrya · 6 years ago
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A Perfect Moment
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by Lost_Girl_02
Before the Battle for Winterfell, Sansa Stark stands on the ramparts of Winterfell, Podrick Payne by her side as she finds one moment of home. The fate of herself, her friends, her family, even the boy she might love, is uncertain, but that simply makes such a moment all the sweeter.
Post 8x01, calculated predictions for 8x02
Words: 5173, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English
Fandoms: Game of Thrones (TV)
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: F/M
Characters: Sansa Stark, Podrick Payne, Brienne of Tarth, Jaime Lannister, Jeyne Poole, Theon Greyjoy, Ned Stark
Relationships: Podrick Payne/Sansa Stark, Jaime Lannister/Brienne of Tarth (background), Theon Greyjoy/Jeyne Poole (mentioned), Arya Stark/Gendry Waters (mentioned), Jeyne Poole & Sansa Stark, Arya Stark & Sansa Stark, Stark Family - Relationship
Additional Tags: pretty much every other character is mentioned, Romance, Pre-Battle for Winterfell, Canon Compliant - Season 8, technically, Sansa-centric, but there's plenty of romantic development, Mostly show-canon but some book stuff is in here too
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ao3jamiexbrienne · 6 years ago
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Here, At The End Of All Things
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by betweentheheavesofstorm
Brienne is still alive. Amazingly, so is Jaime.
I reckon everyone's got their sappy, self-indulgent way they've pictured this happening. This isn't meant to be a prediction in any way, but after ep 2 I figured it might be my last chance to get my hideously self-indulgent thoughts on the table.
SPOILERS FOR S8E2!!
Words: 1607, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English
Fandoms: Game of Thrones (TV), A Song of Ice and Fire - George R. R. Martin
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: F/M
Characters: Brienne of Tarth, Jaime Lannister
Relationships: Jaime Lannister/Brienne of Tarth
Additional Tags: Canon Universe, Canon Compliant, (so far) - Freeform, One Shot, spoilers for 8x02
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adecila · 6 years ago
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Game of Thrones - 8x03 preview analysis + speculation
Or the moment I realise I am blind as a bat and I need glasses.
Busy week, but hey we’re still 3 days away from what has been advertised as an episode that will kill us. At a whoopin’ 80 (ish; 82 according to some websites, 79 according to others so I’ll just say 80) minutes and advertised as the longest battle in television (surpassing LoTR) I am ready to die! 
Wait wait does this mean it will be 80 minutes of stress? 80 minutes of fighting?  80 minutes of me yelling at the screen JON NO and KHALESSI NO until my throat is sore and I barely have any voice left? Yeah, probably.
Anyway- this is probably more on the speculation and prediction side since we don’t have that much to go off of…. 
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Unlike the preview / promo / trailer –whatever you want to call it– we got for episode 2, episode 3 gave us a big fat nothing. Mhm, basically. 
But first the famous 6 photos EW gave us: (also a big pile of nothing!)
S.ansa looking worried, sitting, maybe glossy eyed - interior? exterior? Who the hell knows. Technically, as per episode 2 S.ansa is to stay in the crypts with the other women and children.
Ser Brienne of Tarth and Jaime fookin’ Lannister and some Knights of the Vale (noice shields) - this looks like an actual screengrab from the episode, and from their faces something it’s INCOMING. I am trying not to read too much into it, but tbh their faces can be just from seeing the huge ass army coming at them. 
Jonno mah man, my stupid son (and I say this with all the love in my heart) lookin’ sweaty, and rough and shooketh and I cannot help but to think something BIG is happening. Could it be something as simple as coming face to face again with our main boss the Night King himself? Could it be another “bitch watch me use your fallen men against you” moment? Could it be someone he cares dying in front of him? Could it be the dead surrounding them? Honestly guys this preview is giving me nothing, except anxiety. There’s some fire burning behind him, it can be dragon fire or it can just be fire they made in order to keep the dead at bay (as seen in the next pic). It is snowing and we can see fire behind him. Also also this pic clearly proves that HBO intentionally darkened the trailer since in the trailer we see the clip with Jonno running and this pic is from that exact scene. Gosh, his face tho - LISTEN he looks terrified. 
Jonerys overlooking Winterfell, but from the North-West side? So clearly at one point in the battle they get to this vantage point so they can see better. I am assuming that it’s quite early into the episode, since Jon still has his furs on, whereas in the previous photo he had no cloak and looked like he had already fought for some time; we see the forces spread out exactly like on the map (as I explained it in my 8x02 analysis when the war council happened), and oh my it looks glorious. We also see some fire strategically lit and it looks beautiful. Now BURN IT TO THE GROUND. Jk but also not jk; asoiaf theories on how Winterfell is meant to be destroyed at one point in the story are a-plenty ! Last night @muttpeeta asked me if I could see the dead in this pic and I said bitch I can’t see shit. I guess in the right down corner are just trees, so maybe the dead are in the trees (lmao just imagined them in the trees). On the other hand, @thescarletgarden1990 said she could maaaaybe see something in the left dark corner… gurl, I still can’t see shit. Uff notice how Jon x Dany suddenly have a space in between them? Ah, remember when we had nice things like when they had no idea what “personal space” meant? Hang onto your hats for the angst, bitches.
S.ansa x Arya on the battlements. Is it just me or is there something like a bar or blade or maybe a bow on Arya’s left side, almost resting on her shoulder? The spear Gendry made her? Maybe it’s an optical illusion. Also seems pre-battle, also seems quite early in the episode, when we have still time for dialogue. Hmm.. maybe that first S.ansa pic is in the same scene, but before? S.ansa looks a bit worried and shit I would be too. Scratch that, I think the first S.ansa pic is after the discussion with Arya. 
Tyrion x Varys in the crypts, chatting to kill time whilst everyone else is getting killed. I also expect this to be in the very first part of the episode. 
See, exactly what I said, they gave us something without giving us anything.
Now, onto the preview:
“The most heroic thing we can do now is look the truth in the face” - voiceover by S.ansa, as the screen flashes to: the troops, Grey Worm, Jonerys at the vantage point, Sam, S.ansa x Arya on battlements, Davos on battlements, women x children x Varys x Tyrion in the crypts, Jorah. Interesting line though, what truth is she talking about? Jon’s parents? I doubt. The fact that the dead actually exist? Remember when I said S.ansa doesn’t seem to believe Jon much?…
“The Night King is comin” - voiceover by Jon - we see Jon scared shitless, (from the photo we also got), the army in position, Arya running (from the trailer), Unsullied marching in formation, Beric x the Hound (INSIDE WF? WHAT???), Dany on Drogon in a blizzard, more Unsullied, Theon with a bow with fire in the Godswood, Jonno pulling out Longclaw in the Godswood looking a bit too sad/disturbed/scared??? 
Jonerys at the vantage point, face to face, Dany saying to Jon “The dead are already here”, she looks angry, Jon looks … emo :D 
Ser Brienne yelling to her flank “Stand your ground”
Now, let me regroup all my thoughts now that I made a general break down of the photos and the actual preview, let’s discuss what I think it will happen. This time I am heavily relying on speculation since tbh we don’t have much to go off.
About Jonerys:
Yeah, I don’t think they are just going to get over the parentage reveal that fast. My guess, based on how 8x02 ended and on the way Dany says “The dead are already here” is that there is going to be some tension. A lot of it. My best guess? the conflict isn’t going to be solved until 8x04 at the earliest. 
I told @smoldany I am thinking Jon wants to stick to the plan (contrary to what he did in BoB) and Dany will maybe see her troops getting smashed. As I mentioned, they make the vanguard so they will get hit the most. I imagine Dany is still shook from the reveal and when Jon will tell her to stick to the plan, she will go KHALESSI YES and mount on Drogon and go fuck up some wights and WW and protect her people because that’s what she does. Maybe Jon tells her something along the “The NK isn’t here” and she replies that exact phrase we hear in the preview. 
I am expecting some sort of rift between them mid battle. I know, I have mentioned it, but that’s what happens when person A and B go into a fight for life while they are also fighting. 
I mentioned in an ask how we will get a parallel to the scene beyond the wall where Jon falls into ice water in front of Dany. I am expecting something like this to happen, but reversed. This time it will be Dany falling and Jon running, watching something in horror. Maybe she falls off Drogon, maybe she falls with Drogon, but something happens, because I swear that Jon pic where he looks horrified it’s all I can think of. Plus! We haven’t seen Dany in armour yet! What if the Red/Black Dragonstone dress from the teaser is actually her armour? Maybe she gets injured and they finally decide she should get armour. Why? Well, I cannot stop thinking of what Tyrion said in season 7, that it only takes a well shot arrow for it to be all over. I also think that if this isn’t the moment she gets injured on Drogon, it will come later, probably in 8x05. 
Plus, c’mon, they have to make us think (even for a few minutes) for maximum angst ™ that one of the two heroes may die. 
If we get Jon carrying Dany to safety I will be the happiest. 
If what I said happens, we also have all the chances of getting the I THOUGHT I LOST YOU kiss I keep mentioning. D&D do not fuck this up for me. 
The Crypts or “sure, the Lich Night King is coming, you know what would be a good idea? To go sit in the motherfucking crypts where the motherfucking dead are kept.” 
Look. Do I believe the dead will rise in the crypts? Mmmmm not really. Except maybe Rickon, because he is the freshest dead person to be put here. There is a lot of foreshadowing in the books that the dead in the crypts may rise in a form or another, but… I don’t think it will happen in the show. 
However! Since the crypts have been mentioned a lot, I am inclined to thing something BIG will happen. My best bet? The dead push through the gates and the Mormont forces and they make it to the crypts. AHA but you will say - “UMMM aLiCe but the people are then sitting ducks” - well, not necessarily. There are a lot of secret passages in Winterfell, if you remember, that’s how Bran escaped ! So if the dead are to invade the crypts, I am guessing at least some of the people will flee through the tunnels. We just have too many big characters there for them to die so soon, at least Tyrion. Let’s be real, Tyrion won’t die now. He has to flee somehow. 
Winter FELL
I told my friend @tomakeitbeautifultolive once that I thought the fight for Winterfell is doomed from the start. Imo, this keep is meant to fall, and the NK will have a victory here. 
While we’re on the subject of Winterfell, lemme bring up my theory that it will be a sort of Culling of Stratholme situation from WoW. In case you’re interested, click on that link, the lore is so rich in this game, but I digress. I think the bittersweet part if they don’t get slammed and pushed to retreat or die, it will be a sort of decision - aka if we don’t burn as much as the fallen as we can then we are just adding more forces to the AoTD. So… I am thinking there will be a point where the dead are clearly winning and they cannot take any more chances, so they burn as much as they can, living and dead, especially inside of WInterfell. Or maybe I am just too MUCH :D
Regardless if Winterfell is being sacrificed or not, our heroes will be forced to retreat. Because if you think the NK is going to be defeated in episode 3/6 …..
Where the fuck is the Night King then?
Funny how we haven’t seen the NK in the trailer, nor in the preview for this episode, nor at the end of episode 2 - we just saw the WW on their horses.
Will he even be at WF? Idk man their plan looks pretty dumb. And as far as I remember, the NK could see Bran. The NK knew Dany was coming and was prepared with spears for dragons (and chains!). So why the fuck would he not be able to see this shitty ass plan??? 
I told some of my friends that I think the NK will fool them, send his forces to WF while he will either stay on the sides for as much as he can in order to bait Dany and/or Jon… (so he will swoop in let’s say mid battle - maybe that’s why we see Dany on Drogon in a blizzard, or idk, we saw the weather change also when WW are present, so you never know) or go to the Isle of Faces because I think he may want to destroy some big important weirdwood tree… or maybe I am thinking again too much about WoW and I am getting Teldrassil vibes 
Bran Starkashian waiting for his date with the NK under the weridwood tree
Uff I think this is the part of the plan that will backfire the most
I am 99% sure this is where Theon dies, while defending Bran because the dead are gonna come to the Godswood for Bran’s sexy ass
I told @tomakeitbeautifultolive that Jonno looks too distressed and oddly calm when he is drawing Longclaw and he looks to also be in the Godswood - oh gosh what if he mercy kills someone ? Oh gosh what if it’s Theon… or Rickon…
But Alice, what about Cersei and her GC? And Bronn?
I honestly don’t know. Weird how Cersei seems to have a plan in place. So what happened to Euron after ep 1? Did he get mad when Yara got rescued? Is the GC just gonna sit in KL and wait for an attack? Are they marching North? Are they gonna also arrive in WF while the dead are there? 
I just want to mention that in the trailer, when Arya does her spear thingy, it seems there is blood spatter from one of the people she hits… “but wights don’t bleed, Alice,” - I hear you say. Exactly, buddy. EXACTLY. So who the hell is Arya killing? just something to keep in mind. 
Last thoughts: 
Jorah will die - as Theon, his arc is fulfilled, and especially after his heart to heart with Dany in 8x02 I am 99% sure he dies. 
Grey also may die. Listen, I was surprised he made it alive out of Casterly Rock. I don’t think he will get to take Missandei to Naath…
I’m thinking 5-ish minutes of intro + 60 ish of action + the rest is the retreat
The jonerys conflict will most likely continue into 8x04, where it may get solved - if not, 8x05 for the makeup sex.
Beric dies; either Podrick or Jaime die, but not both
Edd dies
ALIVE: The Starks + Gendry + Dadvos + Missandei + Lyanna Mormont + the Hound + Sam + Gilly + Little Sam + Brienne + Ghost + Tormund
I am still holding off for Nymeria and her pack! 
Bottom line is, I am pumped for this episode, it is gonna hurt as hell, so yeah! Asks and dms are open, as usual, so feel free to ask questions if there is something I missed. See you on Sunday! Bring wine and food! 
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adecila · 6 years ago
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Game of Thrones 8x02 - Live blogging
So I watched the leak (I still have it...) and I took notes. Walk away while you can, babies, for this shit is the real shit. 
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Aaaaaand CUT
Jaime vs Dany
Omg one man with one hand. 
LMAO I LOVE the look Dany gave Tyrion. Bye Tyrion fuck off.
“THE THINGS WE DO FOR LOVE” BITCH KILL ME
“This goes beyond loyalty” omg Brienne pls don't. Fuck this lame ass hoe.
”You vouch for him?” “I do.” Jaime's small smile OMG. 
Lmao Sansa trusts Brienne with her life bahahahah when last season she send Brienne away afraid she'd side with Arya. Inconsistent writing.
What does the Warden of the North say?? Omg someone hug Jon pls.
I loooove Grey Worm!!! Yas I love how when Dany gets up everyone else does too. Finally some fucking respect for the fucking Queen. 
Omg Jon leaving tho???? Omg omg did I low key predict this in my drabble?
Tyrion vs Dany
Lmao a fool? Fuck off Tyrion. You done fuck up dude. You fucked up so badly my dude.
Gendrya
Fuck yeah STRONG ENOUGH.
Gendry's dick is so fucking hard right now.
Jaime vs Bran
Ohhh apologising. Good. LMAO “YOU WEREN'T SORRY THEN”
No oh hell now did he just pull the “I wouldn't be the person I am now...” fuck this. 
Haaaa told ya Bran wouldn't tell them he pushed Bran. Boom called it confirmed!
Tyrion x Jaime
“She didn't seem so sure about you”. LMFAO bitch get rekt. 
“WAS SHE LYING ABOUT THE BABY TOO???” Tyrion's face tho... mhmm
“You.loved.her.anyway.” - gurl ain't that the truth.
Season 1 callback! Uh oh what did Jaime see??? Ah Brienne!
Dragonglass on the battlements to stop wights from crawling up on the wall.
Jaime x Brienne
YAY POD AND PROUD BRIENNE
Uuu some actual battle prep fuck yeah!
Jorah x Dany
So so sweet mah heart. Oh Jorah!!! Broke my heart!!! You're breaking mine now omg. I am so emooo.
What suggestion??? Did he tell her to speak to Sansa? Fuck Royce. OH WAIT at least he bowed lmao. HE GOOD FINALLY SOME FUCKING RESPECT
Dany vs Sansa
Lmao inconsistent writing... Sansa trusting Brienne suddenly...
“He loves you, you know that.”
Yes !!!! Sansa apologising. Thank you. Finally recognising she was wrong. Thank you Sansa for proving my point.
Cute bonding. Hands holding. DAENSA FUCKING RISE 
Omg that Brexit mindset tho. Smh. Bye. AINT NOBODY GOT TIME FOR TORIES
Theonsa????
OMG WE GOT THEONSA WHAT WHAT WHAT OMG THEON YOU BETTER FUCKING SURIVE
Gilly!!! Davos!!! Some people!!!
So they are moving all the women and children to the crypts.
Omg that little girl. I bet Davos gets serious Shireen vibes. MAH HEART JUST GIVE DADVOS BOATIE SO HE AN BE A GRANDADVOS
Tormund x Edd
Jon's smile OMG JONMUND OMG MAH HEART
The Umbers? :sob: 
The big woman still here? LMAO
Battle prep - war council
Loved the entire scene. 
Bran omg Bran... and the NK? Interesting. Interesting. So he says he will act as bait. Ok nice. Also I loved the Starks interactions. 
Did I predict Jon hastily leaving the war meeting? You know I did bitch. LMAO at this point I am 2 for 2 with my drabble and Jon avoiding Dany. Although we know we ain’t getting any jonerys smut now.... but still bitch, did I call it or what??? 
Missandei x Grey Worm
Omg poor Missandei wtf racists fucks Omgggg plsss yess take her there.
Jon vs Sam then Edd
Yes Ghost finally. Fuck you Sam. Fuck you. Lmao I am Jon and Jon is me. 
“And Now our watch begins.”
Ugh bye Sam. Really wtf sam that was fucking shitty bff act. Jon’s reaction was top notch. 
Jaime x Tyrion again then Brienne x Pod x Davos x Tormund aka the Merry Band
Nice stuff, not too long. I loved it. Lovely !
Arya x The Hound x Beric
I love this. Bahah Miserable old shits. Ohhh so that's when Arya gets ideas hehe.
Gendrya
Arya shooting arrows again. God bless. 
That spear thoooo amazing. MY FUCKING FEELS. 
I AM ROBERT BARATHEON'S SON !!! 
“Your first time with a woman???” Arya wtf omg omg. 3. Omg ARYA YES BABY.
ARYA WHAT????? SHE WENT IN FOR IT OMG ARYA 
OMG HER SCARS OMG GENDRY BABY. 
“I AM NOT THE RED WOMAN. TAKE YOUR OWN BLOODY PANTS OFF.” *PROCEEDS TO TAKE PANTS OFF*
The Merry Band again
“AT LEAST WE'LL DIE WITH HONOUR.” 
Interesting that Tyrion thinks they'll all survive. He called her “Ser Brienne of Tarth”!!!! Fook tradition. Yes she did!!! Lmao Pod staring into the camera like he's on the office.
Yes yes Ser Brienne I love this song. 
Jorah vs Lyanna x then Sam
Omg my baby Lyanna 
“I WILL NOT HIDE UNDERGROUND I PLEDGED TO FIGHT FOR THE NORTH” :sob::sob::sob: 
“I WISH YOU GOD FORTUNE COUSIN” FUCK MEEE
Heartsbane - lmao Sam you think your father taught you that??? ME THINKS JON TAUGHT YOU MORE THAN YOUR DADDY YA SHIT.  I was wrong Sam is referring to Jeor! He says to Jorah “Your father taught me... ”
Fucking hell why didn't Jorah say more?
The Merry Band again
Jenny's song... wow wow wow chills fuck me I have so many chills. The couples!!!! Very much Lord of The Rings!!! LOVED IT!!!! 
Jonerys finally
Who's that? Lyanna Stark!!!!
THE REVEAL WE DESERVED. 
OMG OMG. “MY NAME MY REAL NAME IS AEGON TARGARYEN.” 
“THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.”
Nooooo omg I know where this is going....
The horn interrupts them. The WW are here. No sign of the NK yet. 
Ready for battle.
I AM SO FUCKING READY EPISODE 3 HERE WE FUCKING COME !!!!
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ao3jamiexbrienne · 6 years ago
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A Perfect Moment
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by Lost_Girl_02
Before the Battle for Winterfell, Sansa Stark stands on the ramparts of Winterfell, Podrick Payne by her side as she finds one moment of home. The fate of herself, her friends, her family, even the boy she might love, is uncertain, but that simply makes such a moment all the sweeter.
Post 8x01, calculated predictions for 8x02
Words: 5173, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English
Fandoms: Game of Thrones (TV)
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: F/M
Characters: Sansa Stark, Podrick Payne, Brienne of Tarth, Jaime Lannister, Jeyne Poole, Theon Greyjoy, Ned Stark
Relationships: Podrick Payne/Sansa Stark, Jaime Lannister/Brienne of Tarth (background), Theon Greyjoy/Jeyne Poole (mentioned), Arya Stark/Gendry Waters (mentioned), Jeyne Poole & Sansa Stark, Arya Stark & Sansa Stark, Stark Family - Relationship
Additional Tags: pretty much every other character is mentioned, Romance, Pre-Battle for Winterfell, Canon Compliant - Season 8, technically, Sansa-centric, but there's plenty of romantic development, Mostly show-canon but some book stuff is in here too
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