#further than fillory

[fixated-on-something]

AS SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW I’m attempting to write a hypothetical “sixth season” of the magicians, staying 90-100% canon compliant and following a 13 ‘episode’ format. I’m trying to stay as true to the show as possible, but obviously adding some of my own details here and there.

I thought while I work on the planning process for it I’d share some do the details I’ve come up with that I plan on adding

So, Eliot’s living situation

One thing I noticed in season 5 is that when he’s a professor, they still show him chilling at the physical kids cottage???

Which is kind of weird, because he’s no longer a student. I suppose they never really show where the professors live, but I just assumed they had like, normal New York apartments????

So I had the idea- that Eliot now owns the cottage. It’s still the dorms for the physical kids, but he owns the deed and lives there. Since they say that It’s not legally owned by anyone during season 3, perhaps Fogg later realizes that maybe that could be an issue in the future; and Eliot, not having a house, offers to buy it.

So he lives there and also owns the deed.

And a little detail I want to add… Eliot’s room.

He has a large square rug in the centre.

A rug with a tile pattern. Hundreds of colourful squares.

It looks like the mosaic.

[mostlikelyshutup]

@horsetailcurlers2 and i finally finished the magicians the other day and though i do think the show shouldve ended differently and really should have been different from like s4e12 onward, i think with the current ending it just doesnt make thematic sense for eliot and alice to be where they are

like somehow eliot has tied himself down to brakebills which admittedly the physical cottage is his safe space or whatever but on the whole feels like hes not doing what he should be doing in the grand scheme of his character, (in terms of like tethering himself to a place where he was never actually himself and tethering himself to anywhere in general but i digress) like he should be helping build new fillory!! him and margo and josh and fen should be together and i feel like that was just thrown away for alice's self discovery or whatever (like cmon weve seen what the healers in the magical world can do, youre telling me broken fingers trumps missing fingers in terms of spellcasting??) it would also help on his growth, showing that although fillory kindve sucks and he definitely does not want to run it, it is still his home now and making sure its okay?? well thats been his goal fo a while even without being high king (also him naming margo high king margo the creator would have been way more moving than fen doing it im sorry)

whereas alice herself would have shown major growth if she were to be with the library or at brakebills, showing that she finally understands the importance of not just hoarding knowledge but sharing it (if she were a professor at brakebills) or working towards sharing it (leading the library in a way that further goes with that view shes been working on getting for the past idk four seasons???)

it also would have furthered both of their connections to quentin, with alice working with brakebills and eliot in fillory, which were where both of their connections to him really flourished and grew and how they could stay connected to him despite it all

[indestructibleheart]

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Ask me anything about anything on this list! These are all in various stages of development. Some have a lot of words written, some have a small handful, some have outlines, and some are just ideas I'm staring blankly at for the time being. (I've also left a couple things off, either because I don't know enough to answer questions about it, OR I've put it on the back-burner for one reason or another.)

FICS WITH WORDS AND/OR OUTLINES:

paper cut stings from our paper thin plans: Also known as The Coma Fic™️. It's a Kensington divergence where there's an accident before Alex can get on the flight to Heathrow. It's dual POV alternating between Henry at the hospital and Alex in his coma dream. the eve of everything: Pez is a Timelord. Alex and Henry are just people in the world stuck in a time loop on New Year's Eve. am i more than you bargained for yet?: Alex and Henry meet when Alex is sent to boarding school as a teenager. breaking character: Alex is an actor who starred in a sitcom throughout his childhood. Henry is an Olivier-winning playwright. fillory and further: An AU loosely based on 'The Magicians.' like a slow fire burn: I'm not giving away exactly what this one is just yet, but I'll throw it in here anyway because I'll answer some vaguer questions about it.

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my calamitous love: An AU where Henry moves out to a cabin by a lake in the woods and Alex is literally a muse. fine/gotta get out: Based on the songs of the same name from the musical, 'Ordinary Days.' lol the doc is called "reverse concept album" but i'm not 100% sure what i want to do with it now wicked au, apparently??? it's mostly mj's fault.

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[terresdebrume]

what happened with the magicians?

This got really long so we're using a cut. TW for references to depression, suicide, queerbating an possession under that.

Okay so. The (original) protagonist of The Magicians is Quentin Coldwater. Quentin is established from his very first shots to be depressed enough to warrant a stay in a mental health facility (can't remember if we actually see him for the first time as he leaves it, but I think that might be the case). He is also very quickly established to have been depressed for a long time and using his favorite books, the Fillory series (an expy of Narnia) as a way to cope through escapism.

In the first episode, Quentin and his best friend Julia are both invited to take the entrance exam to Brakebills University (of magic). Julia fails, Quentin succeeds, cue a lot of magical adventures that reveal Fillory to be a) real and b) a lot darker than the books make it seem.

Throughout the first four seasons, two things are regularly touched on:

Quentin's ongoing struggle with depression and anxiety

Quentin's romantically charged relationship with his friend Eliot Waugh, who is also a mess but in a different way (this is relevant later).

Quentin's mental health is more or less prominent during the show, depending on periods, but one defining moment is when Quentin and his friends are looking for magical keys for Quest reasons, and one of them causes its bearer to suffer from acute depression and commit suicide, often withing 48 hours. During this subplot, Quentin volunteers to hold the key because he's familiar with how not to kill himself, and gets to deliver a powerful speech about the fact that he's been beating his natural depression for years, which means the key doesn't stand a chance against him... which is later proved right since Quentin doesn't kill himself and the quest succeeds.

The Quentin/Eliot relationship also has its more or less romantically charged moments. However, a key subplot is that during the quest for keys, Quentin and Eliot end up trapped together in a different time, where they eventually get together, adopt a son, and grow old together until Eliot dies of old age, allowing Quentin to find the Life Key and further their current quest. When they go back to their own time, young again, Quentin asks Eliot out, citing their lifetime together as a solid "proof of concept" but Eliot, for many reasons, gets scared and turns Quentin down. (If memory serves, he pretends to have forgotten the parallel life, but don't quote me on that.)

Anyway, the next season, as a result of the keys quest, Eliot is possessed and trapped in his own body/mind. Quentin is hellbent on getting him back and pretty much the only one who believes there's anything to get back after a while. Meanwhile, Eliot is trapped in his own mind and discovers that the key to getting back in control of his body (however briefly) is to go into his worst memory, which turns out to be...the day he turned Quentin down instead of getting together with him. Cue a self-hating monologue, Eliot showing Quentin he's alive by referencing the asking out conversation, and resolving to ask Quentin out if they survive their current arch-villain.

Eliot is freed, the quest is not over, so the conversation is postponed, although as I remember it there's an understanding of sorts between Eliot and Quentin (might be misremembering there). At a minimum, the strong implication is that something is going to happen there...except in the very last episode, Quentin sacrifices himself to save everyone in a way that makes him actually ask if he committed suicide, to which the answer was 'you were loved so of course it's not a suicide'

Which not only was strong queerbait* but also the way it was done left me with the distinct feeling that Quentin giving his life up was like. The only 'valid' ending (there was someone else with him who could have been in his place) and to make matter worse, Quentin immediately decides to move on from the afterlife, getting a definite perma-death instead of remaining a character for a while.

It's like... when I try to explain it it feels a bit like I'm reaching because it's a lot of cumulating little things that made it eminently frustrating and just... hurtful. As in, this character who was depressed but managed to carve himself a relatively happy life despite multiple world-ending dangers thrown in his face, who was inches away from getting some more joy in his life from a queer relationship, was unceremoniously killed in a way that implied he'd chosen that for like, "the greater good"!

And to make matter worse, the showrunners afterwards (from what little I saw, someone correct me if they have more accurate info) essentially were like 'well he's depressed anyway so it's only fair'. Which is fucking bullshit.

Eta: At least we got vindicated in some way because after that Season 5 tanked so hard the show got cancelled (COVID probably didn't help either)

*Also reinforced by the fact that Sera Gamble, the showrunner of The Magicians was also the showrunner who brought the Destiel queerbait scandal to Supernatural season 7, with such "subtle" and "accidental" hints as a giant fucking bi flag in the background while Castiel is being admonished for loving Dean too much... anyway, this is getting away from the point of this ask, but it did show Sera Gamble already had some questionable showrunning decisions under her belt.

[clarajohnson]

the magicians s1e13

yes i put this one off i wasn't ready yet

i love when the recaps just give everything away it's so cute of them ohhhh the watcherwoman you say? god i wonder who that is. oh jane chatwin is important you say? that's interesting.

i love that q gets into fillory and within days is like alright guess i should write an unauthorized sequel to fillory and further

"no, i just stabbed my own hand" YOU wanted the fantasy protagonist lifestyle YOU have to deal with the common risk of blood sacrifice

BOOOOO FUCK YOU EMBER EVERYBODY HATES EMBER

loveeeee the .02% opium also love "a pretty unfair way to get you to love a place" i love the way he thinks of things you neurotic little freak

NOTHING better than the way q says "nnnnbitches" in i am in that scene, bitches

(speaking to the magicians showrunners) by all means, hinge your entire quest on a traumatized boy

every knife scene is a tease until my beloved wife fen appears

you are from a place that likes murder!

it is so obvious as to almost be lazy that the watcherwoman would be q's favorite fillory villain

jesus christ i love that q is the volunteer tomato. he would be. he really would be, he cannot resist jumping into danger if the purpose is to save the things he loves.

the memory patch :-((((((

"margo being such a bitch." oh eliot waugh you are so dear to me

q's narration is pretty fun for this episode i like it quite a bit

this is a funny stage of the team assembly, the way they resist julia's inclusion when actually julia is going to be very important to everyone (i am making this up just because i like julia)

the leo blade is pretty sexy i appreciate it

TIME FOR FEN

oh wait i forgot it's a different fen :-( see you soon my beloved

"i admit i was 100% sure that i was definitely the high king. i know! shocking, right?" fucking crazy that we have to watch him experience total ego death while eliot is making stoner jokes

season one eliot still agreeing to marry fen despite all the fine print is so shocking when you think about it, like, i forget the kind of guy he starts out as, and the "my life, it doesn't work" speech is like a total shove into character development that moves so quickly and immediately blooms and is so instantly rewarding. man when this show is good it's good.

"i think you're the only person that i can stand"

these chapter titles make me believe that q is not a good writer. i imagine his fillory fics were not highly rated.

"father-in-law, why is this blade a thousand degrees?"

mrs. me !!!!!

i will say this. and this is a kind of spoilsport opinion i know this. i do not like the whole ember's jizz plot and i find it very gross and demeaning and unnecessary, not that any of this is necessary, just that this specific element feels chosen to be a gross-out.

"can you be the champion we've been waiting for? "i want to be." whew there it is!

ONCE AGAIN FUCK EMBER FUCK EMBER FOREVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

me when i hate the character the show wants me to hate :-o >:-(

i completely forgot plover was in the dungeon lmao you know what let martin be a little bit more of the beast !!!!!! yeah poor you !!!!

most pathetic boy in the world voice: i know you don't want to hear it right now but i love you

quentin coldwater has the craziest fucking self-esteem anyone has ever had it goes in all directions and fluctuates hourly

you're not as good as i hoped, quentin coldwater.

please not the glowing eyes jesus christ

whewwwwwwwwww the reynard scene is always going to get to me sooooo fucking bad jesus jesus jesus

"trickster of the faithful and the pure of heart" i gotta be honest i don't know what mythology reynard is part of but i don't know what the purpose of a god like that would be. this guy seems like a burnt pancake to me.

horrible. horrible!

it's so wild that she called marina. i like that she did that i just think it's crazy. and it's a really interesting aspect of marina's character too! "jesus, julia, i wanna help." the girl is not an asshole we just hate women with boundaries JOKING she IS an asshole but i do think sometimes women are allowed to be.

love that penny expands his powers with stick-and-pokes

i believe, because i want to, that there is some significance to julia going into the wellspring last.

i forgot martin is UGGOOOOO

you know i think the way this show frames the forty timelines, for q at least, is as a kind of suicide mission, which i really feel like pushing against. i don't see q as a character outlined by despair or futility i think he's all about hope and perseverance and i think that's beautiful and it's what i want for him!

shit i completely forgot about jules teaming up with the beast for a minute oh julia you're a crazy lady

shows don't have the kind of security to end a season with five out of six main characters bleeding out and absolutely no resolution anymore

[stilettobitearch]

🥀 i'm obviously coming with you . @xbadnews fillory & further.

"percival." as soon as the admonishing address was out of her mouth, secret remembered just who she was dealing with, and that there was little-to-no point arguing him with. there was a secondary feeling, too, that she'd actually rather quite like company, and percy's, no less. besides, he had some memory of the city that secret was sorely missing.

"i just need to get," she rolled her eyes upwards, not the first time she's alluded to emperor in such a manner (not that it mattered, he was always in her mind), "- off my back about seeing his old hideout. i think the best entrance is through the sewers by basilisk gate..." secret trailed off. her knowledge of the sewers was worse than her current recollection of the city, which was ironic in a way she wasn't entirely cognisant of. "i think." she cleared her throat, trying to hide the self-doubt. "shouldn't be too bad, just the two of us to find out what kind of jars the guy kept his brains in, y'know?" a small smile told percy that she was biting her tongue against the phrase what's the worst that could happen?

[freezegirl]

it's really okay if this is not your thing .

fillory & further // @danversiism

"no it's really not." surely by now carol realizes who she's talking to? permafrost - leander - and ganga - saraswati - are retired now and they retired sooner than planned due to baron battle, but they weren't always. a goossens is a goossens inside and outside the house. and anything a goossens sets their mind to, they will do perfectly. or else, why bother at all? and for all intents and purposes, khione is a goossens, still. "i'm not tired; i can go again. as many times as i need to. it'll click, one way or another. it has to. besides, we've got the same doctor on speed dial. sort of."

[chikoyama]

"if you're guilty, i'm guilty ."

Fillory & Further Sentence Starters | Accepting

So rarely, Chiyori would ask anyone of favours, so rarely she’d entrust anyone with herself, let alone the growing struggles that she faced. Calling it a favour, perhaps, was a stretch even, because placing such a responsibility on a 17-year-old boy could hardly be considered a favour in the first place.

In its very own sense, it was probably considered more of a curse than anything else. A burden even, one Chiyori wished she hadn’t felt the need to put onto her kohai. Though, who else existed that could handle it? No one else, Chiyori thought, her inner voice filling with a sense of regret. Because ultimately it wasn’t fair. Not to her kohai, not to anyone.

At Yuuta-kun’s words, Chiyori paused simply, amber gaze shifting downwards, jaw tightening. There was an aura of weariness about her, dark circles under her eyes from the many sleepless nights she’d had to endure; voices and nightmares haunting her like vengeful spirits — she could barely remember the last time she’d had a proper night’s rest.

It’d come to a point, where even in her waking hours, horrid images would flash before her vision. And there were whispers, whispers, whispers in the back of her mind, telling her to give up; to let go control, to release the abominations that she held trapped inside of her very soul like inmates. These days, it barely felt like she could hold onto the tearing ropes that somehow still kept them secured within their confines.

And the sorceress thought about his words for a while, hand tensing around his shoulder from when she’d pushed him against the wall. Guilt. Why had Yuuta-kun had voiced it like that? Like it was some kind of shared feeling between them — as if it was a shared fault when it wasn’t? And she would object to it, vehemently… though didn’t. Didn’t have it in her to argue with his unbending nature right now. Instead, she stayed silent. It’d been hard enough to make him promise to do everything in his power to stop her if things ever went out of hand.

Her gaze remained fixed on the ground. Truly, Chiyori didn’t know what to tell him. “I…” She began slowly as she backed away, hand slipping off his shoulder. She wasn’t sure about the appropriate thing to say here — the right thing. Even if she reassured her kohai, it likely wouldn’t make him feel less different, would it? Could she blame him for it even? Not really, she thought, because had Chiyori been in his shoes, she likely would’ve reacted in a similar manner. Then, she lowered her defenses, shoulders dropping in defeat as she whispered: “I’m sorry, Yuuta-kun…” There existed no other real solution to this, did there?

[fixated-on-something]

GUYS IVE ACTUALLY STARTED ON THE FIC

LIKE IM PAST PLANNING GUYS ITS GONNA BE REAL

[pnthra]

FILLORY & FURTHER. // accepting

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usually, he was not so...

desperate.

it was an ugly look, so starved and depraved. after all these years, wasn't he better than that? higher than the lower lifeforms, elevated beyond a hungry, cornered beast? he had gone and done that, experienced what it was like to be feral and untamed.

but sometimes it... peeked out.

leandros couldn't help being inherently a beast, not a man.

" ah. "

someone had come to the tail-end of his meal, and for a brief moment, he thought it was dessert strolling in. dropping the tightly-clenched collar of the man he held taut to his mouth, lips and fangs parting from ruined, tattered flesh, leandros lifted the back of his hand.

" help with clean-up you mean? "

licking his lips clean and sucking off a red-stained finger, he locked eyes with a man whose scent was undeniably supernatural. it was even stronger than the aroma of the blood of the man he had sucked dry, even as it drenched his shirt and hands.

oh, he was already feeling so much better.

[grievedifferent]

fillory & further season one sentence starters. accepting !! // * @fairmuses

❝ can you just help me live with myself? ❞ / she has so much guilt sdjfsd from jess to josh!

it's a loaded request, isn't it? to ask him of all people? my sisters are dead. i want to blame you. i can blame you, can't i? can't i? let me blame you. it's easier that way. because it's my fault, too. it's my fault. it's my fault.

❝ i, uh, i dunno what you want me to say, jess. they're really gone. ❞ josh swallows the lump in his throat. she looks so pitiful in front of him, so much smaller than she is. the jessica he knows is confident, alluring, and unafraid. she's really going through it. guess we all are. ❝ and they're not coming back. not now, not ever. that's just our new reality. ❞

he could go on. he wants to go on / go off on her. he doesn't. instead, he watches her. it would be fruitless to fly off the handle now. wouldn't do a lick of good.

❝ look ... i know you're sorry. ❞ a pause. ❝ and i don't know if you want my forgiveness, but if it means anything? i forgive you, okay? ❞ liar. ❝ let's just ... let's just try to move on ... for the sake of my sisters — for my sake. ❞

[horribleweasel]

Book Quentin talks about Alice the way Captain Holt talks about women when he’s pretending to be straight. Yes I’m talking about “heavy breasts”

[clarajohnson]

the magicians s1e8

I AM NEVER GETTING OVER THE MIC DROPS

eliot waugh is an underrated mirrorball character

my hatred of mike can't really be overstated... he is more obstacle than man to me

"this is quentin, this is alice, they are nerds"

the circles under alice's eyes are a major part of her charm to me

alice quinn asking if quentin is in love with her after approximately one week of fucking, insisting that she wouldn't have had sex with him if she wasn't a wild animal, being disturbed that she can still smell him... Your Honor She Does Not Like Men. also she's autistic.

okay gretchen is adorable why don't we see more of her

hell is real and it smells like axe body spray

THE MIKE BUNNY INCIDENT IS SO FUCKING BAD

dear quentin i'm giving up magic thanks for nothing and go fuck yourself

bad marina outfit

further watching of episodes i've forgotten may change this feeling but i do get a sense that marina was interested in julia in a not entirely self-serving way. in another life they were partners in every fuckin sense of the word.

poor eliot "things aren't usually worth caring about" waugh putting his outfit-choosing energy into a little gremlin renfield when quentin is doing his best (terrible) impression of margo just to help him

RICHARD !!!!!! MY FRIEND RICHARD

"who said that?" "some dick"

if i was there i would've thanked alice for bringing flashcards

it is so crazy that eliot first tells the indiana story to fucking mike but "becoming me was the greatest creative project of my life" is a wonderful line so i can almost forgive it

watching a show after selecting a blorbo is crazy bc i'm watching a tragic scene of a man who's lost his magic and i'm thinking sucks to suck :/ shouldn't have told q to go off his meds

the knife wielding mike does is kind of like anti-choreography

penny don't call the medical professional treating you "woman" challenge

"i'm not here to feel any better" kind of a total summary of eliot's character

richard calling hedge tattoos "ink" is so charmingly youth pastor of him

my feeling is that most of penny's ripcord speech to alice is based in a personal hatred of q but i also do like that he'd care about alice enough to say it

(q voice) no better time to info dump about international politics in my favorite children's books than while penny is dying

honestly q takes the "fillory is real" news in stride, considering the person that he is

on my first watch and again now i find what julia is doing MUCH more interesting than the brakebills storyline. also there's something incredibly appropriate about her praying to a harvest goddess her first time.

they're FUNGIBLE. YOU'RE FUNGIBLE.

god these people have boring most prized possessions

the jane reveal blew my fucking mind my first watch, then for her to fucking DIE immediately after? that's the kind of insanity that makes you believe in this show

HOWEVER, fuck you all magicians writers for punishing eliot for opening up by making him kill his first serious partner

i love love love alice's checkerboard door and i do not believe that she is enjoying heterosexual intimacy behind it

[face--the--strange]

Just another calm afternoon for Quentin and Eliot. :)

made for @electricandpurpleandeightynine as a part of Not Alone Here

[entropysoup]

post land quentin thoughts

at the end of the second book, quentin is left with nothing. he had friends who loved him, and he was king and then he hadnt and he wasnt. the book ends, as if it completes a story.

book 3 doesnt discard this.

quentin has nothing, and he accepts it.

not in the way where he just lives on, cutting his losses.

no something deeper happens in him.

he is lo longer focused on what he is, but what he can and will be, and what he can and will do further down the line.

heartbreakingly (for me) he lets go of fillory and his friends, who love it, because its not for him anymore, at least for the moment. and thats okay, thats good.

the feeling of pure being slowly settles down in his stomach, and thinking back to the gatekeeper from the outer island he realises being quentin is enough.

he becomes a god! and he lets go of the power because he decides being quentin is way more than enough.

no thing can be in place for him. he has to do it himself, and he is looking forward to it.

[zangetsusundelion]

hobey ho!

Mae govannen!

Sav'aaq!

*witcher grunt*

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