#fuck them team green

[sunfyredefender77]

leave helaena alone you poor bitches

[godofstory]

fr it's getting so annoying and it's showrunners fault for changing his character from what it was in the books so much this season and trying to make Aemond the sympathetic one; also TAG YOUR ANTI POSTS PROPERLY! idgaf about your green ass opinions! if you don't like Daemon stick to your own tags or atleast tag it as anti; just because you think your stupid opinion is correct doesn't mean it's not against that character and his fans

team green is like: i can excuse misogynists and rapists and usurpers and eating kids with dragons but I drew the line at anything Daemon does

You know last year before I was obsessed with Daemon or had seen HOTD or knew anything about it really, I'd often see gifs and pictures of daemon, positive ones albeit, and now every other post in Daemon Targaryen tag and I'm going to emphasize this , every other post about him in his own tag is downright negative and cringey because most of it reads as if it was written by an illiterate person who only speaks in lingos.

The tag is also filled with people comparing him with other characters from the show which really is an irony in itself because newsflash nobody is a saint in that show (except Helena maybe). Also why am I seeing posts about Aemond Targaryen in Daemon tags? His fans are as obsessed with Daemon as Aemond himself is 😂

People go as far as to make fun of Daemon's looks and his face which means that you're so far gone in your hatred for a tv show character that you'd make fun of the actor's looks for portraying him, a guy who's just doing his job. I often wonder what goes around in these people's heads like how insufferable and attention starved they must be in real life to act this way online so like minded folks would give them the validation they crave so badly?

Can't even go on reddit these days because as soon as there is a post praising him or saying anything positive about him, people somehow make it negative and aren't afraid to divert the main topic altogether. I have literally seen Daemon related posts both on Tumblr and reddit where the scums would start to discuss everything else but Daemon because they can't handle that people actually like him.

I blocked anti daemon targaryen tag a few months ago but what's the point really?

[ayrennaranaaldmeri]

HELAENA WAS A BELOVED QUEEN IN F&B SO OF COURSE RYAN CONDOM HAS TO MAKE THE SMALLFOLK PRAISE THE PERSON WHO WAS BLOCKADING THEIR FOOD TO BEGIN WITH BC PROPAGANDA ONLY WORKS WHEN RHA EN YRA DOES IT AND THROW THE FOOD THEY WERE RIOTING OVER AT HELAENA. I CURSE HIM AND HIS UGLY WRITING.

[danyseastar]

hot take maybe but the only reason most show runners/producers/writers/etc. age up the (female) characters from book to show adaptation is to overtly sexualize them and not face mass amounts of scrutiny for it.

put 13 year old daenerys next to 30 year old drogo and the audience understands that daenerys is a victim to him and not an equal. put 22 year old emilia clarke as daenerys next to 32 year old jason mamoa as drogo and they’re seen as a budding romance with a tragic ending (by the general audience) due to their on screen chemistry.

flash forward to today, and now we’re dealing with 21 year old milly alcock playing rhaenyra from 14-19 and how her relationship with (28 year old fabien) a mid twenties criston is seen as -morally acceptable- and not a result of a degenerate pedophile taking advantage of and grooming his charge. “ser criston protects the princess from her enemies, but who protects the princess from ser criston?” rhaenyra was 14 when rumors started speculating that she slept with an almost 30 year old criston. a criston who had know her since she was 8 and had been her sworn shield since she was 9. obviously seeing a teenager in the early stages of puberty next to a fully grown man would emphasize rhaenyra being THE victim, as opposed to the show having an 18-19 year old explore her sexuality and seek out ‘consensual’ sex with her peer bodyguard. the discourse has even reached the point where certain stans try to paint the much younger woman as the perpetrator and aggressor of this event, who forced the unassuming man into having sex with her.

i’ll even take this a step farther, and bring up how if they had shown a 19 year old alicent abusing a 10 year old rhaenyra it would be identified and mutually agreed upon as a reprehensible act on alicent’s part. instead they’re of similar age, so people can attempt to paint the picture as two women of equal standing hating each other, and not a much older woman bullying a motherless child. once again however, some stans even go so far as to try and paint alicent as a victim of rhaenyra, and not the other way around. further cementing this is how both versions of alicent are younger than both versions of rhaenyra, AND how criston is still played by an actor who is younger than older!rhaenyra despite his character being the same age as daemon in canon.

they know exactly what they’re doing too, considering they aged alicent down to give her that innate compassion one typically feels when seeing children being abused on tv (something that can no longer be applied to rhaenyra). despite that never being her story; *she* was the abuser, and rhaenyra was her victim. criston’s victim. it’s a nasty cop out, and i wish more people would call out how sickening it is to flip the switch and attempt to make abusive individuals more sympathetic than the *actual* victims of said abusers.

[feminist-cult-following]

I need them both so bad.

[radicalsansa]

WHY DO TEAM BLACK SUPPORTERS KEEP WRITING AEGON CENTRIC FIC????? OR HELAEGON FIC????? ISTG IM JUST TRYING TO READ FANFICTION WHERE AEGON TAKES THINGS INTO HIS OWN HANDS AND GETS HIS THRONE BUT EVERYTHING IS JUST HIM HANDING IT ALL OVER TO RHAENYRA ON A SILVER FUCKING PLATE

[hmmenthusiast]

Yesterday was a DREAM. And I’m still freaking out. Comic Con #1 is officially in the books. I was lucky enough to get a photo with Matt Smith, Tom Glynn-Carney, and Fabien Frankel at New York Comic Con. I was also excited to have Tom and Fabien both sign my original hardback copy of Fire and Blood. I couldn’t afford an autograph from Matt Smith, but that’s okay. I just want to point out that Fabien took a picture of my shirt, which I’ll post below, and sent it to Olivia. I was FREAKING OUT. He was so incredibly sweet. Tom also told me I looked cool and I completely blanked. He was just so adorable I didn’t know what to say.🫠 I made both Tom and Fabien bracelets and they put them on instantly.

ALSO CAN WE TALK SBOUT THE WAY FABIEN JIST GRABBED ME. Right before he took the picture he did the whole “watching you” eye motion to Matt. I had just met him like ten minutes prior when he commented on my shirt. 10/10 experience. I will never recover

[dirtytransmasc]

Alicent being ignored as a parent during those first few years. Alicent being expected to take care of aegon, while also allowing Viserys to take him whenever he so pleased, to show off and pass around like a model toy. Alicent being denied her child whenever lords and ladies were around. Alicent only getting him back when she was at her wits end, stressed after being separated from him for so long, watching people hold him wrong, play with him wrong, touch him wrong. Alicent only getting him back when he is fussy and no longer a source of entertainment for Viserys and his guests. Alicent holding her baby close to her chest during outings or events, stiffening when people ask to see him, hesitant to release her grip on him. Alicent biting her tongue when people ask to "give her a break" when she really wants to tell them that it's her baby and she's perfectly capable. Alicent being so exhausted from guests and Aegon being so little and full of energy, and her second pregnancy, causing her to doze with Aegon in her arms, only to nearly lash out when someone tries to slip him from her arms, engulfing him in her arms as if to fend him from hungry wolves. Alicent carrying him around, even as she grows tired, her arms burning and back aching, so she knows he is safe, away from prying hands and acrid whispers, away from his father's attempts to use him for amusement purposes. Alicent feigning a smile, feigning composure and enjoyment, when really, she just wants to be home, in her chambers with her son, where no one can bother them, where they aren't props meant to smile and wave for a man who does not love them.

(inspired by this reblog of my post from earlier. cause yes, @squgs [hope you don't mind me tagging] is right, she would very much go to war for her baby)

[witheredoffherwitch]

It's been over a year..... and these folks are still crying over 10-year-old Aemond "stealing" VHAGAR, a literal nuke the size of Mt. Everest, and throwing shade at the twins at their mother's funeral? Meanwhile, Rhaenyra's grown-ass is out here riding the twins' father on the very night they laid their mother to rest. Come on! y'all are not serious 😭😭

[throwawayasoiafaccount]

i still cannot believe that people consider having lovers outside of a political marriage as cheating

a lot can be discussed about how raging misogyny and the patriarchy in westeros has led to unequal standards for women to uphold and suffer from

as highborn women are not allowed the same sexual freedom that highborn men get to experience, and even if these women do have relationships outside of their marriages, they are usually scorned and shunned by society for daring to practice sexual autonomy

it’s unfair, i am very aware of this fact

(that’s why i’ll never understand team green stans)

but george has never ever condemned his characters for finding and experiencing love outside of doing their duty.

never.

we’re not unfeeling machines that lack emotions. we’re humans who are, more often than not, led by our hearts. and grrm does a phenomenal job when creating characters, as they truly feel human.

so yeah, it’s a bit disappointing that people dumb down what is clearly a very complex situation to “cheating” (btw george himself calls rhaegar and elias relationship complex and he’s never implied that they loved each other in a romantic sense).

to reiterate, i am well aware that highborn women and men are held to different standards, however, if you have a problem with characters working through, around, and sometimes failing to overcome the social structures that cause their suffering, then you must have a major issue with george’s exploration of the human heart in conflict with itself.

george’s characters aren’t robots and that’s what makes them interesting. they do things for very human reasons. they’re biased. they’re traumatized. they’re conflicted. but they’re still reaching for a better tomorrow and they’re still trying to find happiness.

so i’ll never consider rhaegar and lyannas relationship as cheating, or something unsightly that should be scorned. for they simply dared to find and grasp love in a society that would rather shackle them to unhappy marriages, which is very commendable.

oh… and do you know what george does criticize?

political marriages lol

he makes it clear that selling women off as broodmares and forcing men into marriages they don’t want is a recipe for disaster.

of course the eventual fallouts of these relationships is super interesting to read about, but you should never ever support the systems in place and the societies that benefit from pushing people/characters into these incredibly unhealthy relationships

so while i find it interesting to read about characters navigating these relationships, i’ll always be the first person to condemn these societies for forcing this fate onto them. i’ll also always be the first person to root for characters who do their best to find happiness outside of their political/arranged marriage

sorry that i don’t condemn a character for finding love outside of a loveless marriage

instead of getting angry at rhaegar and lyanna and being very nonsensical in the main tags about it, how about you turn that anger onto the patriarchy, which is rooted in every single institution and family in westeros, the patriarchy that refuses to allow women to have the same amount of sexual autonomy as men?

(this is why i despise team green :))

[multifandominfj]

Like, FOR REAL THO! This bitch (in the most loving and respectful way possible) needs to “Dracarys” all of The Greens and start committing some fucking war crimes already!

[the-witch-of-woods-beyond]

genuinely disgusting how people in the asoiaf fandom are openly prejudice to so many people and say the most vile and disgusting things but think it's okay because they hide their views behind fictional characters.

[theflopwonder]

Me, naively: Omg haha what if I wrote a fic abt the party at the fortress of solitude in superman/batman 26 as an excuse to do some Tim & Kon character study?

Me, after reading 4 separate comic runs from 4 different editorial teams who were OBVIOUSLY not talking to each other AT ALL to try and figure out the timeline & other logistics of this party: WHO THE FUCK FUCKED UP THIS HOUSE LIKE THIS GOOD GOD??????????

[tinky-dinky]

House Of The Dragon Thoughts

So I've recently dived into the HOTD fandom. I watched the first few episodes, but got bored and couldn't root for any of the characters as they're all terrible. But I've read Fire and Blood, so I know what happens. I have some thoughts.

I'm Team Aegon, personally, as the laws of succession in Westeros are very clear. Male heirs come before female ones. Also, Rhaenyra comes with Daemon, and he shouldn't be anywhere near the throne. And her stupidity and arrogance with having three obvious bastards but throwing tantrums every time someone points it out really irritates me.

I hate the way the show seems to go out of its way to make Rhaenyra and Allicent more innocent. They're both terrible people in the book and I like that. It also doesn't make any sense; the show repeatedly says that Rhaenyra doesn't want to be queen, which is ridiculous. That's the whole reason for the Dance.

I also loathe that the show seems to be demonizing Team Black. Aegon was not a good person in the book but he wasn't a rapist or a person who watches child fighting. There's no indication whatsoever that Aemond would have burned his brother, or even that they didn't get along.

The fandom has a tendency to victimise Alicent a lot. She was 18 when she married Viserys. She was not a child. And being young doesn't excuse her abusive parenting. To contrast, Catelyn Stark was two years younger than Alicent when she married Ned and had Robb and she isn't a shitty parent (well, except to Jon).

A common thing I see Viserys critised for in fics is forcing Aemma to have a C Section. While forcing her was, obviously, a shitty thing to do, it's not like there were other options. It's pretty clear there's some kind of complication preventing her baby from being born vaginally and both of them would die slowly and painfully otherwise. It's nuanced.

[danyseastar]

jace is not ‘pushing for war’ in the same way aegon and aemond are, and to insinuate so is ridiculous 😭

aemond specifically started a war because of his butthurt ego and inability to control his dragon, aegon celebrates this fact with a party. jace just doesn’t want his brothers death to be in vain and knows that his and his families lives are forfeit if they don’t fight back. he’s one of the only male characters in fire and blood that has to deal with the repercussions of misogynistic attacks; his mother is usurped (on account of her gender), loyalists at court (that he surely knew) were put to death for supporting his mother, she loses his baby sister in a traumatic stillbirth because of the usurpation, his brother is murdered in cold blood (he most likely blames himself for the plan that sent him to storm’s end), he’s going to die thinking he failed to save yet another brother. why would he not push for war? and why are violent misogynist one and two (who STARTED the war in the first place) allowed to react, to want revenge, to want to hurt others in response to their losses, but jace isn’t?

we can complain about the way the show frames women as the pacifist pushovers to the men being violent warmongers all day long but jace of all the male characters on screen is *not* included in that, come ON people 😒

[rosalinesurvived]

Do you‐uhh.

Do you ever think that the Green kids resent Alicent for being on Rhaenyra's side?

Because um. Obviously watching their gaslit, grief-stricken mother charging and making the Princess bleed for Aemond loosing an eye with no justice is harrowing and incredible and terrifying. (Our mother loves us! She's begging for our Father to care! She slashed the Princess! She does love us!) And then years later Alicent is telling Aegon to spare Rhaenyra, holding Rhaenyra's arm infront of them at supper.

Did they ever feel as if they were the late ones? The invaders? Do you think they felt as if it was a constant fight for their Mother's affections? Can you imagine the reproach they mustve felt, knowing that they were unwanted (What have I done but what was expected of me?) watching their mother raise hell for them, then always looking around for one of the objects of their agony?