#fuck sheep and fuck peta

[mossfrg]

on a similar vein as my Jersey Gotham fic, I raise you this point: I have not seen a single mentioned of 4-h in any regard to Clark. I mean c’mon, super country boy Clark motherfucking Kent??? Not involved in 4H??? Absurd. My mans was involved in AT LEAST rifle, horse, and cow clubs. Maybe a lil goat club as a treat. (Fuck sheep I have a personal vendetta with them so only sheep slander here). He still has the pledge memorized. He defaults to showing posture when nervous. You bet your ass this man can get any stain— shit blood mud— out of whites because “No I don’t need a dry cleaner Bruce do you know how hard it is to keep an all-white outfit all-white while in a barn I did that when I was seven fuck you”

Clark drops random stories from his time showing and then moved on like he hasn’t just dropped the craziest farmer bullshit city-boy Bruce has ever heard.

“Y’know i once got drunk and stole a tractor and plowed a dick into the field.”

“I’m sorry what?”

“nah nothing.”

Mans just casually drops that he helped establish breed standards multiple times and refined show standards for said breeds. He started a petition to change the classes for showing to include companion animals. PETA has stalked him and has him on their black list. He was excused of all tardies in school because during calving season, he regularly gloved up and pulled calves (bc why bother using an actual calf pulled when you have an alien with super strength).

Yes Clark is an alien, but he is a feral farm boy alien.

[ramshacklefey]

Dear Person who Loves Hating on Veganism,

Not all vegans are white, USian, or wealthy. In fact, those demographics aren't remotely representative of people who practice veganism.

Most vegans aren't obnoxious fucking idiots, and we hate the idiots as much as you. They're just louder, and people see them because they're obnoxious fucking idiots who won't shut the fuck up.

We're very aware of the fact that the agribusiness industry exploits and abuses workers who are disproportionately immigrants and people of color. There's a big overlap between people who are vegan and people who try to buy local produce that we can confirm is made ethically. Unfortunately, this is expensive, and see above point about most vegans not being wealthy.

It's impossible to buy fucking anything these days without it being made by exploited workers. It is possible to avoid buying products that are produced by both worker exploitation and unimaginable cruelty to animals. Harm reduction.

Many of us also try to avoid buying stuff (Palm oil, quinoa, etc) that causes massive ecological harm.

Vegan "replacements" for animal products are not necessary for being vegan.

We know that eating eggs doesn't hurt chickens, that taking wool doesn't hurt sheep, and that eating dairy doesn't hurt the animals it comes from. Those of us who aren't idiots are fine with animal products that come from animals who are well-treated.

The animals that produce eggs, wool, and dairy for mass consumption live in conditions that would be illegal to keep a pet in.

Opinions vary on killing animals for meat if they're otherwise well-treated through their lives.

Eating vegan is straight up cheaper than not as long as you don't insist on buying luxury items to replace every single animal product in your diet.

Plant-based milk is only more expensive than dairy in the USA because of the extent to which the US government subsides the dairy industry.

The amount of meat that USians eat is fucking insane, unhealthy, and ecologically unsustainable. If we enacted laws that required farmers to give their animals the space and care needed for them to be remotely healthy and kept up the current rate of meat and dairy production, something like 70% of the available arable land in the country would be going to animal farming.

Cattle farming is the largest source of methane emissions on the planet. Methane is far more potent as a greenhouse gas than CO2. Reducing cattle farming would have a huge impact on global warming.

Humans are not carnivores. We aren't even omnivores, strictly speaking. We are primarily frugivores with a limited ability to digest animal products.

There is no nutritional benefit you get from animal products that is not available from plant-based food. Often, your body will obtain the nutrients more readily and efficiently from plants than from animal products.

The only exception to this I'm aware of is vitamin B12. This is because this vitamin doesn't come directly from plants, but from the soil they grow in, and most plants are washed too thoroughly and grown in unhealthy soil. Vitamin supplements can easily replace this.

There are innumerable health benefits to plant-based diets, even if you aren't fully vegan.

Most of us have pets. Most of us support caring, sustainable animal husbandry.

Whether or not you are vegan, you should, imo, be aware of the reality of how the animals you consume are treated. What you do with that information is your own business.

We would also like to launch PETA into the fucking sun.

Sincerely,

A Vegan Who Is Fucking Tired of This Bullshit.

[athetos]

I don’t trust people who say they care about animals more than people because like 9 times out of 10 they’re the type of PETA vegan who thinks that sheep die when you shear them and are mega fucking racist

[pansapphicpositivity]

Remember, wool is 100% ethical, and it doesn't harm the sheep to be sheared. In fact,it's beneficial. Fuck PETA.

[just-prime]

All of this. And it certainly doesn't help that PETA intentionally spreads misinformation about this shit.

The example I always go to is the wool and sheep industry.

As taken from the PETA website,

"but without human interference, sheep grow just enough wool to protect themselves from temperature extremes."

And this is just categorically untrue. Do you know what happens if you don't shear a sheep? They turn into a giant matted wooly pom pom and die from overheating. And yet, PETA routinely stages targeted harassment campaigns of death and doxxing threats towards prominent sheep shearers, which is just fucking insane.

anti-egg vegans are always a hoot. like, she’s not using it. it’s not fertilized. it’s going to rot and attract predators. you want me to just throw it in the trash??

[averill-writing]

The Fuck Peta Masterlist (Wip)

Sheering Sheep

[dumb-patrol]

god tumblr stop showing me ads from peta2 how many times do I have to ask for you to stop showing me their ads with dead and dying sheep before you stop fucking showing them to me. also fuck peta. they're lying assholes.

[ksfreckles]

Stupid shit incoming.

Wombats have a top speed of 40KPH

There are more sheep in NZ than people in NZ.

1 horsepower equals 132 duckpower

Bosnia and Herzegovina arguably has the most annoying flag because they cut the top star and bottom star in half.

Speaking of flags, Chad and Romania have the exact same flag.

There are 27 bones in the human hand.

You are more likely to be airdropped to God's pearly gates by a coconut than you are by a shark.

If you took all the salmon out of the Tasman and layed them next to each other in a line, they'd all fucking die and PETA would after you in record speed.

😊

A - you are awesome and this just brightened up my day in more ways than I can say

B - this is my favorite one: “You are more likely to be airdropped to God's pearly gates by a coconut than you are by a shark.”

[tucsonhorse]

Add in anyone who works with natural fibers, especially wool. Fuck you PETA, sheep suffocate if we don't sheer them

All my homies hate PETA.

[histories-and-mystery]

We love going feral at two am over PETA and the mistreatment of sheep

[arcadequeerz]

hoodieimp replied to your post “HAH i was right it IS a peta ad! d:)”

my Mum Legit fell for the shitty "milk causes autism" thing and tried to get us to cut down on drinking milk bc she thought it might "help" me...we didn't last a day, but Still. Fuck PETA, that shit is Disgusting and they can Piss off w their scaremongering.

god thts awful wht the hell, BUT YEAH Peta can fuck off n eat Shit n takw their gross shit with thm.

[phantom-of-the-memes]

Tumblrs increasing ignorance surrounding veganism is actually driving me insane so just to reiterate:

Vegans are not claiming our lifestyle is 100% cruelty free. No one in todays world can live a 100% cruelty free life. We however, aim for REDUCED cruelty. Yes we know the terrible conditions surrounding various vegetable growing/ harvesting, and it mainly being immigrants who take these jobs, but do you guys not eat these vegetables too? Also no one talks about the same situation with slaughterhouse workers. And the very high percentage of them who develop ptsd as a result of the job.

“Vegans need to accept the natural life/ death cycle”. Yes animals die of natural causes every day. Animals dying for meat in todays system is not natural. “Oh but we always hunted”. Yes we did. And when we did it was nowhere near on the scale of what it is today. This is not us hunting a small number of wild animals. This is a multi billion euro industry that is destroying the environment and that is raising these animals exclusively to be meat. This is cruelty.

And on that note, no farmers cannot love/ be kind to beings they intend to slaughter. That is inherently cruel. Listen I fucking grew up with my grandparents being sheep farmers. I studied agricultural science in school. I know all the practices and how people treat these animals behind closed doors, and it’s nothing like the cute tiktoks they make.

The sheep shearing debacle. Yes some misinformed say they get all cut up when sheared, but that has never been our point, because we know that rarely happens. I mean sheep are sheared in vegan farm sanctuaries. The issue is that they are bred to produce excess wool that needs shearing. Like do you really think that they just evolved to need humans to maintain them?

That goes for milking too. Cows are bred to over produce milk, and only do so for a short period post pregnancy, so farmers need them to be pregnant every year. They can’t get pregnant anymore? Time for slaughter.

And don’t get me started on the goddamn pleather debate. Pleather was not made for vegans! Non vegans use pleather! There are more sustainable faux leather options. Also leather is not the environmental saviour y’all act like it is. As well as that, the price of a leather vs pleather jacket aren’t even comparable. Some ppl want a leather jacket they can afford!

“Vegans are ableist because not everyone can be vegan”. Yes, the second part is true, and any good vegan will tell you so. But most people saying this fully could go vegan. I’m disabled as shit. I am intolerant to so many foods and yet I make it work. And AGAIN, that is not me saying everyone can go vegan. But is it not the duty of people who can to try it?

Similarly: “vegans are all rich elitists, not everyone can go vegan because of the cost”. Listen that may be true in some cases, but the vegan lifestyle is achievable for the average person! It has been shown time and time again. Only the weird specialty items can be overpriced, not the essentials.

And last but not least. No, PETA does not fucking speak for us. Any actual vegan will tell you so. We also cringe at their crazy and just off topic campaigns and tweets. They have a terrible history with founders who have no interest in animal welfare and have shown cruelty themselves to animals.

In conclusion, there are so many resources out there with the facts debunking all the bs flying around. And everyone in this website is usually all for the facts and critical thinking. I’m not trying to convert anyone to veganism, just trying to keep people informed.

[lady-wildflower]

In all seriousness, my perspective on this is that you can't necessarily be an absolutist about things like it. It also strikes me as a very culturally Christian thing, 'thou shalt not kill' being extended to animals in the assumption that death is an absolute evil and a sin, etc etc, but that's not something I've given enough thought to to articulate properly.

Let's assume a decent farming situation, as is the intent of a lot of activism to ensure is universal - if that animal lived a content life and was slaughtered in the most painless way we can manage, I'm fine with eating it. In that situation, and hell even in many not-ideal farming situations, that animal had an exponentially better life than it would have had in the wild. It was fed and watered well, protected from predators and disease, and its death was hopefully peaceful, quick, and painless - in the wild, that animal would have lived in a state of constant stress trying to make sure it gets its next meal without becoming something else's next meal, not to mention the prevalence of disease and parasites, and it would likely have died violently or from sickness. Nature is not some uwu pretty Arcadian archetype like some people seem to think.

As far as I'm concerned, it's not unethical to eat that animal and use its hide, or indeed other parts of it. It's been extracted from the violence of nature to the point of having a downright idyllic lifestyle by humans, and I am perfectly okay with the humans in return getting food and clothing. I'm as much for reducing cruelty with lab-grown meat or plant-based fake meat as the next ethical human, but it's not unethical to eat meat. That's an absolutist stance that is fundamentally incompatible with, in my opinion, reality. Frankly, there are plenty of humans who need it - I know someone who actually is required by their dietician to eat meat because a plant-based alternative wouldn't sustain them and they'd become severely anaemic without it. I'm gluten free, a vegan diet would either leave severe deficiencies in my own diet or give me regular stomach issues. If I need meat, as many if not most humans do since we're omnivores, and I get that meat in the absolute least amount of cruelty-per-meat I can humanly manage, I'm cool with that.

This is of course why I am opposed to cruel farming practices, despite eating meat. That's not a contradiction.

And that's just the situations where slaughter is required. The takes I've seen on wool are asinine. Sheep need to be sheared. It is bad for them to just let them be. We have bred them over millennia to need shearing. The wool gets too heavy for them to survive falling in water, too warm and dense for them to survive hot weather or clean themselves, and it is a fucking breeding ground for parasites and shit when it gets dirty. You want the sheep to get flystrike? Stop shearing them and that's what happens. We don't dock lambs' tails for no reason, we do it because they get fuckin necrotic infection from flies if you don't. It would be cruel not to shear them. The only people who badly injure sheep when shearing them are incompetents nobody invites back, but a few nicks are inevitable because, funnily enough, sheep don't really understand the phrase "sit still please while I give you a glorified haircut."

But no, because PETA and shits like them are performative fucking absolutists who misrepresent shearing as skinning, wool is becoming so hard to sell that farmers are having to just dispose of it because it'd cost more to sell it than the money they'd make. And instead, people are making clothes out of FUCKING PLASTIC.

That's what your fucking vegan leather is. Plastic. Polyester is a kind of plastic. None of this shit will be good for the environment when it inevitably breaks down, and it breaks down exponentially faster than actual leather, wool, etc. Leather and wool are better materials and better for the environment especially when they're farmed ethically, but because it doesn't suit a pretentious fucking performative absolutism about using animal products, people think it's evil. Even that fucking supposedly good pineapple leather, Piñatex, is plastic. I was so fucking disappointed to learn that when I googled it. But because people hear "pineapple leather" they think it's a good vegan alternative to leather, when it just isn't, and you really don't need an alternative to leather. If you're slaughtering a cow who's lived a content and happy life ethically, there's no reason not to use the skin aside from it not being economically viable, which it is becoming because this performative bullshit sells the idea that leather is evil, despite the fact it's better for the environment and you need less of it because it doesn't break down into unbiodegradable bits into nature where it can fuck up anything it gets into and doesn't deteriorate as quickly. An actual leather jacket will last decades. Plastic leather, that won't be worth wearing in less than one decade.

I would much rather wear the wool of a few healthily-shorn sheep and the leather of maybe half a cow and have that last half a lifetime or longer than keep buying more and more shitty plastic clothes that release microplastics into the ocean and soil for just as long. But because of Vimes' Boots Theory, I kinda have to wear the shitty plastic for now, at least until I get to a point in making my own clothes where I've made them all out of better materials... read, wool, leather, and natural textiles like cotton and linen.

And then there's the shits who think it's inherently cruel because of consent or whatever. That's insane. If you try to anthropomorphise animals to the point of trying to apply consent to them you end up classifying nearly all of them as serial fucking rapists. You can't apply that argument to animals who fundamentally don't understand the concept. Have you met sheep. There is absolutely nothing behind those eyes. Categorically stupid animals. Especially when, as before, they've been bred to need our help. You can harangue over the ethicality of doing that millennia ago, but it's a pointless thought experiment when the best thing to do is just take care of the damn sheep and cows and whatever. Plus, if we stopped taking care of them, where the hell are they supposed to go? Go free and wreak havoc on the ecosystem? Wild deer and goats and shit are already damaging the environment, we don't need to add a bajillion cows and sheep and everything to that. Better to just keep taking care of 'em and harvesting what we get from them as ethically as possible.

All of this stemming I think from a (largely USAmerican, in my experience) complete detachment from and ignorance to the actual processes of farming and where food and textiles come from when combined with a puerile pseudo-Christian obsession with absolutist concepts of sin. It's not a sin to eat a steak. It's unethical to treat the cow that steak came from like shit. Long as that meat is coming from a cow that had a good life and as painless a death as possible, I'm fine eating it and wearing its leather.

I love leather and I love fur and I don’t mind arguing about it.

[noisy-weasel]

And like I saw this blog that, instead of being upset about the movie being super pedophelic, turned it into a fucking political argument. Going on about how "the liberals are defending this movie liberals who disagree you're a right winger according to your fellow liberals LOL" and just kept talking about how the people defending it were on the left and that the right wingers were the ones who WERENT pedophiles. Like bro shut the fuck up!!! You clearly don't actually care about the literal children in this movie whose asses and vaginas this movie is putting on full display you're just trying to "one up" the liberals that's all it's about. Like leave it to you freaks of nature to turn this movie into a fucking political argument.

[queerautism]

Okay okay so!

You often hear PETA talking about wool in regards to mulesing and the ethics of it. Mulesing is a painful process for the sheep, I won't go into detail but when it is done it's with extreme care by experts in order to cause the least amount of pain for the sheep! Peta frames mulesing as something that happens to all sheep when they are shorn. This is misleading! Mulesing currently mostly happens in Australia and only to a specific sheep breed, the Merino sheep. Why are merinos in Australia given this painful procedure? To save them from an even more painful death from Flystrike, infection caused by flies. There is absolutely way better alternatives to mulesing, it's illegal in new Zealand (which is good!!!)

PETA intentionally misleads people into thinking all shearing causes pain to all sheep. PETA has called for the banning of shearing completely. Heres the thing, sheep need to be sheard.... Especially domesticated sheep! Let's talk about Shrek!

Shrek was a merino from NZ! He evaded being sheard for 6 year's and when he was found he was suffering from wool blindness and infections. Wool blindness is when a sheep's wool grows soooo long they can't see. Domesticated sheep like shrek here have been bred to produce wool faster. These floofs need to be sheard!

Okay so now that we understand that all natural wool is good, let's talk about PETA's alternatives. Synthetic wool. After spinning, many people choose to wash the freshly spun yarn, the excess wool fuzz is washed of and either poured onto the ground with the dirty water, or down the drain. Synthetic wool is plastic!!!! You don't want that going down the drain or into the ground.

Mulesing hurts sheep, Australia has begun to follow NZ example and is trying to shift to alternative ways to protect the sheep. But, shearing is helpful for the sheep! Plus real wool is biodegradable! Synthetic wool releases micro plastics. ..... Fuck PETA rant over aaaaa

Fuck PETA indeed!!!! Thank you for explaining

[flora-and-fauna-bby]

Do sheep need to be sheared ?

Yes, almost all breeds of domestic sheep need to be sheared in the warmer months of the year to prevent overheating , dehydration and disease. Not shearing sheep would in fact be crueller than shearing them. Yes they may get a bit uncomfortable during the shearing process but you also get a bit uncomfortable at the dentist or doctors and you still go for your health.

Some vegans may say that the sheep are slammed into the ground and punched kicked or that the shears cut the sheep. In a few cases some shearers have abused sheep which is incredibly wrong and disgusting but does the actions of a select few mean that all sheep are abused while being sheared ? As for the cuts , small ones can occur if the sheep moves too much , they have excess skin or if the shearer doesn't pay attention however these are usually minor, any serious cuts are treated and cared for by the shearer or any of the other farm staff. After shearing some sheep are treated with sprays or dips that keep the flies and parasites of them.

Are there any alternatives to shearing ? Scientists have developed a drug that when injected into the sheep will cause the wool to fall of within a week and be collected into a net that the sheep has attached around its body.

Sheep and other fibre animals (e.g alpacas) do need to loose their coat in warmer months . Wool is not a product that supports cruelty , merely a by product that gets recycled and turned into natural clothing or yarn , and helps support many different small businesses not just the farmer themself , for example craft stores for obvious reasons , and gardeners use sheep fleece to line hanging baskets.

In my research online I have only found PETA and a couple of other similar organisations saying that sheep shearing is cruel and so is wool.

Sources

https://kb.rspca.org.au/knowledge-base/what-are-the-animal-welfare-issues-with-shearing-of-sheep/

Please be respectful in the notes and please support your points with sources if possible