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#jack is god btw#for non supernatural fans#supernatural#sam winchester#castiel#sastiel#samstiel#sassy#a softer supernatural#thesoftestship#otp: nothing is worth losing you#otp: stronger than an archangel#sastiel should have been endgame
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Can you do some dark Dean Winchester smut? With an age gap, daddy kink, and virgin reader?
A/n: I can only try, this is my first smut pls don't make fun, plus I dunno how to do the writing color change thingy, cringe ahh title name (plus: this is fictional, I know it's fucked up but honestly I've been through shit like this, and if you don't like it, don't read it, there are multiple fics like this, I'm just doing what people want okay?)
Parings: dean Winchester x fem! Virgin!sub! Reader (I can do a male version if it's not supposed to be fem)
Warnings: age gap (dean is 29 reader is 18, daddy kink, dean forcing reader to call him daddy/dean calling himself daddy, non-con, pain for the reader, forced oral (m!rec), tit palming/slapping, slight choking, kissing, swearing, obviously Dom!dean and sub!fem! Reader, nipple play (for like a second), crying, blood (slightly yk since she's a virgin)
"Please, don't...daddy."
*gif isn't mine I got it from Pinterest*
*readers pov*
Me and dean have been friends for awhile now, he thinks I'm stupid, that I don't know about all the staring or lingering touches when he's fixing up my wounds, I hate the looks, I remember when it all changed, when he changed
*flashback*
I smile as I walk into my house with jo, I jump as everyone shouts surprise at me,my dad, bobby singer walks up to me "wow kid, the big 18, do you feel older yet." He smiles warmly and I smile "uh, yeah I guess." I giggle, dean makes a backhanded joke about me finally being legal,
Sam rolls his eyes "dude, your almost thirty, stop being so gross, you knew her when she was in pigtails." Dean grumbles and hands me a present, telling me to open it later when nobody's around and his hand lingers on my shoulder,
That night I open the gift dean gave me, a fucking vibrator, in the shape of a rose and a photo of him, gripping his clothed hard cock, I quickly throw it under my bed along with the vibrator and I pretend nothing ever happened.
*end of flashback*
I walk into the motel room, I look at dean who's binging through channels on the tv "where's Sam?." I sit down next to him, "gone to get food." I nod and I continue to watch the tv, dean lands on a horror movie,
My eyes wander to the hand he placed on my thigh, I don't move it nor I say anything and I get back to watching the shit gore on the tv, "you know sweetheart, sammy's gonna be gone for a while." He says in his usual flirty tone, his hand sliding more up, I push his hand back down, "so what if he's going to be gone." I say feigning my clueless tone, bile rises in my throat as I feel his eyes move down from my face to my tits, "means we could find other things to do then this shitty ass movie." He grips my thigh tighter, borderlining on pain "d-dean what the fuc-" I'm cut off by his lips on mine,
I try to push him away and get up but he pins me down and he tsk's "no, your not going anywhere, I've waited to fucking long for you, I'm not letting you go now." He smirks and starts to undo and push down his jeans "as much as I want your cunt, I'm gonna use your mouth first."
He manhandles me so I'm on my knees, tears sting my cheeks and he smiles condescendingly, "oh baby, you started this, this is your fault, parading in your short shorts and your tight shirts, wearing no bra thinking I won't notice." He says, gripping my hair with one hand and palming my tits and thumbing at my nipples with the other, against my mind praying for this to stop, my body reacts, my nipples getting hard and my cunt getting wet, he smirks at me, pushing down his jeans, leaving himself in his boxers, the imprint of his dick visible,
He stops palming at my breasts and pulls his boxers down, his hard cock slaps against his stomach, leaking pre-cum at the angry red tip, "open up for daddy." He smirks but I don't, I keep my mouth shut and he gets visibly annoyed, he grips my hair tighter and then his other hand closes my nose, "c'mon baby, you gotta breathe soon." He says in a condescending tone,
I try my hardest but I finally open my mouth to breath, he quickly shoves his cock down my throat, I gag and spit forms around my lips and his length, he lets go of my nose and I try to breathe but its hard, "you know, this all could of been avoided if you didn't play fucking coy with me.", he says as he practically skull fuck's me, gripping my face and hair, thrusting his hips roughly,
After about 5 minutes he finally pulls away, I take a deep breath of air,tears streaming down my face, he roughly pulls me up against him, his cock against my clothed stomach, he pushes me down and sits in between my legs, trying to push my shirt up but I twist and I turn to get away, "c'mon babygirl, the less you resist, the less it'll hurt your little virgin pussy." I whimper at those words,
After what felt like forever of struggling, he finally gets my clothes off of me, leaving me in my panties, "lace...it's like you asked for me to fuck you.", I cry at those words "c'mon baby tell me how much you want this, tell daddy how much you want his big cock to stretch you open." He grins sadistically, I stay silent and dean doesn't like that, I feel his hand strike my left breast, "say it!." He shouts in my face, I whimper and I finally speak with a scared tone, "i-i want d-daddy's big cock to stretch me open." He smirks, "that's a girl.",
"please don't...daddy."
That's all I can say hoping that will please him but before I know it he thrusts into me, pain shoots through my whole body and I start to cry again "awe, baby don't cry, daddy's got you." He says as he fuck's me faster, taking away the one thing I thought I could control, but I can't, I'm helpless as he takes it from me, I feel liquid down at my pussy and I look down, I notice the crimson liquid leak down my cunt,
"I fucking knew you would bleed, don't worry sweetheart, it won't hurt that much anymore.", he says as he fuck's me harder, it hurts, no pleasure from it, I beg for him to stop, I cry to god that it'll be over soon and before I know it, I feel him pull out and his cum spurt on my tits and stomach, I feel dirty as dean kisses me before he flops down beside me and cuddles me, like he didn't just destroy me, exhaustion takes over me, before I slip into sleep I hear dean mutter something and I fall asleep.
*the end*
(a/n: my first smut, I hope it was good, if there is any mistakes or anything you didn't like please tell me, I'm sorry it's so short, I wrote this at 1am.)
#dean winchester#dean winchester smut#demon dean smut#deanwinchtser#dark! dean Winchester#smutty fanfiction#supernatural#supernatural fan fiction#supernatural fanfiction#supernatural smut#dark!smut#non-con
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i genuinely despise jonelias.
i WISH i could word this nicer but i can't hold it in anymore and i have no idea why it's so popular. it's just so WRONG. if they were together it would be so horrible and toxic and NOT in the fun billford way.
i love both of the characters but omfg why is it the 3rd most popular tma ship on ao3
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#hey anon#billford is toxic in the non fun way too#i hope you realize this#as a billford and jonlias fan they are both equally toxic and ships many people dislike for similar reasons .#elias and bill are both supernatural beings who traumatized somebody for their own gain .#billford is just ' funny ' because bill is portrayed as a desperate ex#sorry to burst your bubble but they are both toxic ships .#magpod confession#tma#the magnus archives#magpod
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still chasing the high of that halcyon age where Supernatural was my healthy safe escape from the horrors of US politics, and then
#it's like Oh so now the people with no boundaries who dragged butchered pop-SJ into fandom against our will are gonna preach to us#abt spn's ''connection'' to world events. as if all of us with perspective that fandom is Un-SRS BSNS aren't the real hostages here#ironically the only non-hallucinated political connections are wholesome like I'll accept those US Democrats as fans sooner than y'all#and Misha Collins as a better activist in every respect (Bobo Berens too for that matter!)#so I'm becoming a conspiracy theorist for everything I don't like. politicizing fanwank was a psyop to distract us from anything important#and deprive us of any salvation from the horrors of present-day existence that could empower us to keep going idk idk just sayin!#(I drafted this post thinking I'd do it on Nov 5 but yesterday and I'm like yeah that'll do it!)#destiel#supernatural#spn#wank adjacent#mine
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Hiiiiiii, I wrote the fluffiest little Supernatural AU fanfic! Please gimmie a read if you need a break from reality. It's even completed!
Dean and Emma Winchester are starting to get bored with the daily slog. Maybe the new neighbors below them can make life interesting? Or maybe Dean messes things up before they even start.
#supernatural#spn#alternate universe fan fic#destiel#deancas#fluffy#fluff#domestic au#dad au#Claire is non binary#emma imprints on claire like a baby duck#emma winchester#dean winchester#sam winchester#claire novack#castiel#jack kline#neighbors au
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also. Maybe im repeating myself but this would not be the first time . one of the many many many many many many many reasons I don’t understand fandom characterizations of jack as like. Idk. A bluey fan or having some other blatantly childish interest is , the first and only time he tried to make friends and connect with other ‘teens’ he instantly wanted to teach them how to kill things. Like Straight up. “Monsters And How To Kill Them.”
the only reason he and Dean went on that hunt in Optimism was because jack had restless murder syndrome and thought the case could be a real true zombie. Because he loves zombies . In a tombstone script draft jack says he started watching the walking dead and Glen is his favorite character. he also thought the tombstone case was zombies because He Loves Zombies . Jack literally tells the Lebanon teens that he’s disappointed zombies aren’t technically real monsters. Because. You know.
His special interest is killing and maiming im so sorry to tell you this . Pack it up stardew squad
#narrator voice: he was not in fact sorry#hey the commas work this time yay#oh never mind they don’t anymore#cal.txt#spn#supernatural#jack kline#not all character interpretations are not valid some of you are just fucking lying 😭#not all character interpretations are valid you are weirdly insistent on infantilizing a non-infant character#this is not a rant post im too . skull hurt to do that now#just meowsing (musing if it was fucking awesome)#this is not shade to stardew fans but the idea that jack woild enjoy any tranquil games at all is definitely being shaded#jack when everyone’s relatively at ease after gettinf dean back: I can’t fucking take it anymore I have to Do Something or I’ll die
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really interesting that of all the spn characters submitted to this blog, it’s looking like dean is the only one who’s actually controversial enough to move forward. (voted hate btw)
Fr I was expecting them all to be controversial but I guess only he has split both the general populace AND the spn fans themselves
#I think the rest only had non spn fan haters while he gets the more even split#not a poll#ask#anonymous#supernatural
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I got to work with @squirrelofcelestialintent for the @destielomegaversebigbang !
Go check out their fic! It was such fun to work on.
#my junk#destiel fan fic#destiel omegaverse big bang#omegaverse big bang#nurse Dean#dr sexy kink I guess#fic bang#supernatural#supernatural fanfiction#my art#spn#omega dean#alpha cas#non traditional a/b/o
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Okay, I'm curious, have you ever watched True Blood?
And if you have, what's your opinion on it?
I watched...I think the first three seasons? Maybe part of season four? I remember liking the first two seasons the most, despite certain things that bothered me (the vampire teeth were in an inadvertently funny/incorrect place, AND they made a 'click' sound when they descended...yeah).
The show made Deborah Ann Woll and Joe Manganiello happen, so bisexuals the world over really owe it something. I loved Lafayette to the point that I didn't care when they just blatantly ditched canon to keep him alive because he was popular but then regretted it because they had no idea what to do with him afterwards. Evan Rachel Wood's character was life changing and her introduction is one of the very few things I remember with 1000% clarity. I never had a strong opinion about the main love triangle. I appreciated the show's commitment to following through on its own lore even when it resulted in something queer (like having erotic dreams about the vampire who turned you) since there's a long history of media simply...not doing that. I think I stopped watching when they introduced something magical that felt a bit too absurd--was it the fairy thing? It may have been the fairy thing. People had enough to worry about in that town and adding fairies felt both out of place and unnecessary (plus the show definitely got weaker as it went on and I was hanging by a thread then anyway). I literally do not remember a single thing Bill ever did or said.
#GW Asks#True Blood#And I'm not usually a fan of making the normal human main character suddenly Special#It always feels like the writers ran out of ideas for human-meets-supernatural conflict but instead of ending the series#they try to make the human being non-human super dramatic and shocking#when all it usually does is drain the series of its relatability/threat/challenge#Like now I'm just watching Dragon Ball Z man#which would be great if I hadn't initially signed on for something else
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Nothing Lingers Just Out of Sight
Idea for a Fear Spirit that has the Special Rule:
Flinch Away from Shadows
Generate 1 Fear whenever you use a Power Card on a target land with your Presence. Generate 1 additional Fear if your next Action in the same Power Phase removes all your Presence from that land.
and the Innate Power of:
Paranoia Seeps Through the Land
Speed: Slow, Range: 0, Target Land: Any - This power may be Fast. - You may push 1 of your Presence. - You may repeat this power for each Moon element you have.
#spirit island#I have no idea whether this would be fun to play or not let alone whether it would be balanced (even with tweaks to the numbers)#I just thought of a spirit theme that was based around causing fear by appearing in people's peripheral vision#and no longer being there when they actually look#making them jumpier each time it happens until they've gone mad from paranoia#inspirations include SCP-303 which is a little shit that positions itself so you can only see 10% of it at any given time#it also cheats by supernaturally inducing fear but just being a walking “it'll freak you out when you see it” image is enough for me#second source of inspiration is the Spiral from TMA and the third source of inspiration is real life because I've grown out my hair again#and my bangs constantly fall into my eyes so I'll catch a glimpse of something moving and it'll just be the ceiling fan or something#anyway I also thought about making this Spirit a Strife generator to represent people coming to blows as they grow more paranoid#ala And Then There Were None or The Monsters are Due on Maple Street#but I was already worried that this would make it too similar to Grinning Trickster and that was before I learned about Wandering Voice so#even without the strife generation it might still be too similar to Wandering Voice#thematically it's kinda the opposite where Wandering Voice chases invaders and Nothing Lingers moves away from them after going boo#but mechanically I think the playstyle of both would be moving presence/incarna into a land with invaders and then moving elsewhere#IDK I also don't know how incarna works because I've not played NI yet#also still very much a baby Spirit Island player overall#still haven't tried all the non-NI spirits and still haven't tried playing with an adversary#so nowhere near being able to number crunch for balancing my own spirit ideas#currently at the level of just mapping out the bare bones of thematic stuff#other thoughts are limited presence placement so you have to strategise more for maximum fear generation#maybe only one growth option that lets you place presence?#alternatively you can place presence on your special rule to generate more fear per power card#i.e. X additional fear where X is equal to presence placed here divided by 2 or something#similar to the time mechanic that Fractured Days has in terms of placing presence somewhere other than the board#I think if this is how the special rule works then the number of cards Nothing Lingers gets to play would have to be quite limited#otherwise if it's just +1 and +1 I was thinking the opposite where you get to spam a lot of cards eventually so you get +2 fear per card#thanks for reading if you've made it all the way down here! :)#spirit island oc#or os I suppose
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Comunque più lui rompe il cazzo con gli spoiler più io ho voglia di farmeli solo per fargli un dispetto
#'il mio consiglio per godervi la serie è di non guardare le clip o leggere gli articoli clickbait' amo ascoltami#sono anni che vedo serie tv in maniera anche abbastanza compulsiva e poco sana#non ce l'hai solo tu il cazzo e non sei l'unico ad aver fatto seguire la tua serie sui social e di conseguenza ad aver visto ciò che i fan#hanno congetturato#che poi fa anche parte dell'esperienza quella di congetturare e investigare ma vabbè#non ho bisogno che me lo dica tu come si fa a guardare la nuova stagione di una serie#se mi voglio fare tutti gli spoiler del mondo saranno anche dieci tonnellate di cazzi miei#e poi se non li voglio vedere li vedrò lo stesso perché chi si occupa del marketing e della distribuzione ha deciso di mandarla prima su#raiplay che su rai2 ed è impossibile che non vedrò nulla prima#quindi stai zitto per cortesia esci a toccare l'erba togliti dai social se ti dà così fastidio#c'era letteralmente gente che andava a riprendere le scene sui set di Supernatural e poi si lamentava se le tagliavano nei montaggi finali#quindi vedi tu.
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Jensen did WHAT
#my non supernatural fan friend irl was like did you hear the news???#dear lord.#birth day....#spn#libby.txt
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On FRIENDS a magazine journalist lets Joey know about his "huge gay fanbase". Just like Sam and Dean Supernatural.....
#and I mean literally in the show supernatural for any non viewers out there#there is a fan convention for supernatural in the show and the fans they bond with are gay men#and then in a much later season there is a fan made musical where the actor playing dean (girl) and the actor playing cas (girl) are dating#they literallyyyyyy have a HUGE gay fanbase in canon
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FOUR YEARS SINCE NOV 5TH, 2020, as summed up by Supernatural
past recaps: year one / year two / year three / year four
full context and sources below:
various explanations + resources/sources/extra reading on this year's recap:
balls deep: misha collins says the quiet part out loud at Cross Roads 8 Supernatural Convention, saying "if the CW wasn't so homophobic dean and cas would've been balls deep for sure" at a con (x) (x) (x)
garthbenny canon: supernatural actors DJ Qualls (who played hunter-turned-werewolf Garth Fitzgerald) and Ty Olsson (who played the vampire Benny Lafitte) reveal they're married, delighting crack shippers like myself everywhere (x)
spn spooky picture book: official supernatural children's picture book is released, retconning things like john winchester as a happy father figure and castiel being their cowardly childhood friend who sorta hangs around (x) (x)
boop button: tumblr introduces a feature people enjoy for once for april fool's day and halloween and allows users to boop each other, spn bloggers re-awake like sleeper agents to use it in full force (x) (x)
bedlund speaks on destiel: former spn writer ben edlund goes on a tweet fest replying to fans, talking about destiel multiple times including this profound tweet (x)
clear text, not subtext: jensen speaks out again on the confession at Purcon 8, this time taking a more open stance on how the relationship was textual, his take on dean's feelings about cas's feelings, and how the scene with cas deserved a resolution (x)
bury your gays: famed author chuck tingle (known for his plethora of highly specific and delightfully inclusive, if strange, indie erotica novels) publishes his second mainstream horror novel, inspired by TV network studios' infamous history of censoring LGBT relationships and openly killing off queer characters. In a non-subtle nod to supernatural fans, the main character is named misha. (sidenote: did end up reading this and this book is actually really good commentary on the industry in general and really good, 10/10 recommend) (x) also someone got the book signed by misha, to further break the fourth wall (x)
tracker: jensen ackles begins starring in a CBS show where he is basically csoplaying dean winchester, with the show featuring many non-subtle spn references (i.e. him pretending to almost get in an impala before going to his truck, characters wearing spn necklaces, etc.) (x) (x) (x) (special shout-out to clarice @youre-only-gay-once for expertly tracking the tracker show and these easter eggs, highly recommend their tag for their show)
cw's walker cancelled: fans rejoiced upon hearing the cancellation news for jared's post-supernatural show, walker, a remake of "walker texas ranger." in addition to generally being a copaganda show for the notoriously racist texas rangers, jared's inspiration for the show's direction caused much concern. the actor himself said the show was inspired by the US border crisis, not by the immigrant families affected by the separation and internment, but instead wanting exploring the POV of the law enforcement agents working at the border and the moral dilemmas they had to face (x)
pro-destiel Wonder Woman: Lynda Carter (aka the iconic and beloved original actress for Wonder Woman, not the z*onist one) says she could "go for some Destiel" when promoting #GeeksandNerdsforHarrisWalz and Misha's involvement (x) the rest of the spn cast and original Showrunner Kripke were also a big part of this event
chili's backfire: the chain restaurant chili's drags destiel while interacting with 9-1-1 bucktommy shippers on twitter, immediately gets backfire. notably, their stock takes a dip the next day. coincidence? maybe so, maybe not (x) (x)
samgirl voting fraud: "who is the gayest spn character" tumblr poll surprisingly gets heated, with a blogger straight-up admitting they used a bot on the "castiel vs. sam" poll to rig the poll in sam's favor, which they apparently also did for w*ncest in another poll in the past, and posting a guide on how anyone could do the same. luckily democracy wins in this one instance and castiel prevails anyways, leading to an also contested "castiel vs. charlie bradbury" round (x) (x)
pink pony jarpad: jared is spotted at lesbian pop star chappell roan's set at a festival, un-likely place for him to be (x) also may have been one of the "boring" people called out by chappell? (x)
pro-kamala castiel: in a last-ditch effort to get out the vote, misha uses the power of castiel photo ops to campaign for harris-walz and even shouts-out destiel. I feel depressed writing this sentence, if you've made it this long in your read and you're in the states I hope you're doing alright! maybe by the time I wake up things will be a little different though. (x)
#spent the last three hours doing this to not think about the election I have very normal coping mechanisms#spn#supernatural#destiel#deancas#nov 5th#november 5th#spn 15x18#spn tumblr#tumblr#spn season 16#supernatural season 16#screencapnatural#nov5thposting#ntjdmakesthings#destiel news#destiel news meme#destiel anniversary#spnedit#every time I make these I have to find a whole new way to screenshot netflix but I figure it out every time
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One of my favourite things about the book of Bill has to be how hard it has cemented that, for all the airs Bill likes to put on, he's actually awful at manipulating people. Like if you look at the just the show, on the surface his record isn't bad. 2 1/2 successful manipulations out of 3 shown on-screen is solid. ((That is until you examine it further and realize that the 2 successful ones were done to 12 year old children who 1. Weren't exactly in the best states of mind at the time due to severe sleep deprivation/a difficult emotional state and 2. he still had to trick via his power (the fake timer on the laptop/possessing blendin so Mabel didn't know it was him)) But now? Oh man! Ford wasn't just lucky, he joined a tradition dating back all the way to humanities beginnings! Bill has been trying to get people to do his bidding literally since people had gotten good enough at resource-gathering and tool-usage to be able to potentially build his portal! And he failed over and over and over again and he never learned shit! That would be bad enough but not only did he fail at manipulating several civilzations worth of people, they ALSO constantly thwarted him in ways beyond that! He got himself banished, trapped, and annoyed to hell and back and thats just the stuff he told us! Thats not even speaking of his latest and possibly greatest fumble, failing the convince us, the reader of the Book of Bill who is canonically a fan of Bill or at least Gravity Falls into striking a deal with him. In short, if I asked Bill to manipulate a child into eating ice cream with just his words I wouldn't trust him to get it done within my or the kids life time.
Except, Bill IS good at manipulating people. You JUST DESCRIBED several examples of him being good at manipulating people.
Identifying the most vulnerable targets, the "weakest link" most likely to cave and do what you want—like children (or elderly people with dementia, or immigrants who don't understand the language well)—is part of being good at manipulation.
Identifying and taking advantage of people in a compromised mental state when they're not thinking clearly and are more likely to do what you want is part of being good at manipulation. (He didn't try to persuade Mabel to destroy the laptop, BECAUSE HE KNEW DIPPER WAS MORE VULNERABLE. He didn't approach Dipper or Ford dressed as Blendin—BECAUSE HE KNEW MABEL WAS MORE VULNERABLE.)
Just straight up lying to people—about a situation (the timer), about a person (Blendin)—is a manipulation tactic.
Fabricating a totally artificial emergency and pressuring a target to ACT NOW to prevent disaster is a common con artist trick. (See: scammers who cold call strangers, say they're from the IRS and the stranger is behind on taxes, and demand they transfer a large amount of money from their bank RIGHT NOW or go to jail—WHICH ACTUALLY WORKS A LOT, especially because people CAN'T THINK AS CLEARLY when they're panicking.)
Disguising yourself as somebody trustworthy or somebody intimidating to trick a target into obeying you is also a common con artist trick.
Not to mention ALL the work we see into how he manipulates Ford: he makes note of Ford's social isolation and how Bill can use that to his advantage; he identifies the thing Ford wants most (respect & acknowledgment for his intellectual achievements) and weaves that into his manipulation; he uses both Ford's ego AND Ford's insecurity against him; he almost effortlessly turns Ford against the one friend who adores him, making Ford think his friend's kindest attempts to help are evidence of backstabbing; and even though ultimately it didn't work, you can't say that threatening to destroy Ford's life from inside his own body was a BAD manipulation tactic.
Plus the entire muse schtick. Fooling people into thinking you're doing something magical or supernatural is such a common manipulation tactic that there's a whole name for it: "mystical manipulation." Bill does this NON STOP with Ford, and with many of his other victims.
We see him successfully talk an entire tribe into helping him build a working redwood portal—and they only turned against him when the portal started petrifying people, unleashing monsters, and creating bottomless pits. He talked the Aztecs into sacrificing 9,000 people to build a portal that didn't even work. He talked not-Disney into making a cartoon about Bill that included UNLEASHING LIVE BEES IN THE THEATER. Who the hell would think that's a good idea!
And to top it all off, he formed multiple successful cults that were ride or die for him until the bitter end. That's like the crown jewel of being good at manipulating. Bill talked a whole town into joining his cult in under a month in spite of the fact that he kept calling them plasma bags and chugging formaldehyde. Based on the dates in the document about Silas Birchtree, people were marrying into Ciphertology at least five years after Bill's puppet disintegrated and he ditched them.
Bill was good at manipulating people!
Do you know what Bill WASN'T good at? Getting people to finish and open a portal.
Largely because portals are difficult to make, and because he can only get so far into the process before it becomes obvious that this thing will destroy the world and that's usually enough to override any other threats or promises he makes.
Yeah, he says some stupid things that should obviously give him away—like talking about setting off all the nukes. He's kinda pathetic and a bit of a dumbass sometimes. But, here's the thing about successful manipulators, con artists, and cult leaders: MOST of them are kinda pathetic dumbasses. Cult leaders are idiots. There's a cult leader who preached his followers should be on minimal vegetarian diets, had his chauffeur take him out to a big fancy steak dinner, then told his chauffeur he did that to test his faith—and the chauffeur was like well okay. Cult leaders are idiots, AND YET SUCCEED. When Bill says you can get anyone to hum along with your tune if you've got charisma? He's right—that's true in real life.
Manipulators get away with manipulation not because they tell such brilliant impeccable lies that the most clear-headed rational person in the world would believe them... but because they know to tell their lies to people who aren't clear-headed and rational, and because they know using cheap tricks and false identities and lies that the victim WANTS to be true works better than a flawless story, and because they know most people tend to give other people the benefit of the doubt that what they're saying is probably true.
So yeah, he's too cocky, he's a bit pathetic, he lost a lot, he loses at the end of the book... but that doesn't mean he's a bad manipulator. It means that being good at manipulating can only carry you so far, and Bill didn't have what it takes to carry him the rest of the way.
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leave your answers in the tags (along with your favorite character for extra data lol)
#supernatural#dean winchester#sam winchester#castiel#jensen ackles#jared padalecki#misha collins#mine#polls
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