#feminism for korean women

[sarcasticsweetlara]

FLETCHER - I Believe You (AUDIO)

[twoyara]

As an Asian woman, it makes me laugh how libfems try to degrade the whole radical feminism movement by calling it "white feminism". When in fact it is libfems who are white feminists, and never the other way around.

It's they some white privileged twitter dumbasses who have never seen what a REAL poor life is like in their lives, that sit around thinking that prostitution is okay and there's no shame in surrogacy, knowing full well that the victims of these "jobs" are we, women of color.

Women who escaped their countries from dictatorships, poverty and lack of any women's rights to more "progressive" countries, without knowing language or having papers, thinking they had gone to a better life where they would be helped, only to find themselves as a piece of meat for men's amusement.

So libfem, shut the fuck up. I can't take your bullshit. And it's good to know that radical feminism is prevalent in my republic, as it is in most Asian countries. I love all my Asian sisters that I interact with now and have been able to interact with in the past, in all the years I have spent in this wonderful movement��️❤️

[xoheisse]

This is off topic for my account, but I want to help spread this important information.

Korean women are experiencing massive sexual violence by men.

tw : rape, abuse, crime

Secret Man's Telegram rooms were discovered in over 70% of South Korean schools where female students' faces were photoshopped into porn using AI.

A feminist in South Korea has mapped out schools where deepfake child pornography was created by male students using photos of girls on Telegram.

South Korean journalists who wrote articles about telegram deepfake child sex crimes are also being blackmailed with deepfakes by the perpetrators.

They also speak aggressively and disrespectfully about Ukrainian and Japanese women.

updates!

[hard--headed--woman]

Something happened in my English class that I think perfectly sums up how so many people don't understand feminism.

At the beginning of each class, we have to talk about something in english for two minutes. This woman decided to talk about radical feminism in South Korea. She explained how feminists there decide not to date men, have sex with men, marry men and have kids with men anymore. It was very interesting and well explained, and I was happy to see another woman from my uni talking about feminism. From what I understood, she's not Korean but goes to Korea often and has a lot of radical feminists friends there.

Then another woman raises her hand and asks "don't you think these rules are a little bit tough?". I roll my eyes, but the other woman is confused. She frowns. "What rules? What are you talking about?". "I mean, the not dating men rule. Isn’t it a bit too tough?". "Well of course it's tough for the men but that's the goal isn’t? Feminism has to be a bit tough to men in order to work". She really didn't seem to understand what that other woman meant, and the other was apparently confused about it. "I mean for the women... for the Korean women. Aren't these rules too tough for Korean feminists? Isn’t there a way to help women without giving them such hard rules to follow?".

I was very annoyed (so was the woman who talked about this movement in the first place) because how can you miss the point so badly? How does she think feminism works? Does she believe some sort of higher power gives Korean women rules to follow and that they get thrown in jail if they date a man? How can you describe this movement as "rules"? They aren't rules. They would be rules if Korean women were forced to obey them, if they were punished for dating men. That's not the case. What's happening is that some women decide of their own free will to stop dating men (among other things). They don't follow any rules, they freely chose to do what they do. It's about women's freedom, about women deciding what they do with their life and body. But I guess people nowadays use this concept only to defend prostitution and makeup, without understanding it in reality, when it comes to women doing things that go against what the patriarchy wants them to do.

Anyway, I find it interesting that this woman's first conclusion was that these were rules rather than free choices. This is why many people see radical feminism as a cult; they can't understand the idea of women making their own choices if those choices defy patriarchy. They think we must be some kind of cult that brainwashes them and forces them to obey and follow complicated rules, because how else can a woman decide to stop fucking men? A free woman would never do that.

[gacha-incels]

a protest was held following the lenient ruling of the misogynist attacker in the Jinju convenience store case (more info posted previously here). The sentence was less than requested by the prosecution and the violence was somehow not recognized as a hate crime even though the man attacked this woman specifically because he believed she was a feminist.

[alterbunker]

Before you talk shit on the 4B or korean feminists, educate yourselves from korean women themselves

[ichverdurstehier]

High-key disgusting how much kpop fans will defend Korean incels. BTS is not the norm. BTS are extremely abnormal. Defending Korean incels won't make BTS date you. Slandering Korean feminists won't get you a Korean boyfriend

[rotzaprachim]

well a male friend got very bothered when I said it was “incredibly cruel” to say it’s dangerous to men or bad for women to have a “fear based mentality��� around men, which maybe I shouldn’t have said it such, but then he compared feminism to both the current actions of themodern medinas yisrael and North Korea and talked about how girls ruined his friends life by falsely accusing him of stalking them and said he was crying over the bus talking about it and I was being hypocritical for being bothered by antisemitism and Hamas when Jews are violent but not ready to go #notallmen (Jewish male friend btw) so I don’t know how to respond

[memento-mariii]

There's something I find hilarious about this perjorative korean incels (and honestly just about any korean website whose userbase tend to lean male; the incel problem is depressingly widespread and normalized here) use for non-misogynist men, "스윗남 (pronounced "sweet-nam")", that translates literally to "Sweet Man".

Like, that's just objectively not a bad thing to be??? Sorry that guys who actually respect women and have actual personalities get more pussy than you, bro. Maybe if you were a better person you'd get laid more.

It's just so embarrassingly obvious that they're just seething in jealousy 😂

EDIT: a TERF reblogged this so here's a reminder that trans women are women, trans men are men, and punching down at a group of fellow marginalized people who are *also* oppressed by the cisheteropatriarchal gender roles will not free us from the patriarchy.

[hard--headed--woman]

we seriously need a bigger movement of women refusing to date and have sex with men right now ; feminism won't get anywhere as long as women do not take this kind of radical actions. i know it's a complicated topic since even "radical" feminists on here think it's too much and won't do it but i believe it's essential for women's liberation.

making sure men have access to women's bodies is the patriarchy's priority. in its head, that's what women are made for. that's why we are born. we exist to sleep with men - or should i say, to let men fuck us -, to marry them - become their servant and private prostitute - , to give them kids. it's one of the roots of the patriarchy. if we want to destroy the patriarchy, we have to destroy the roots. we have to destroy this root.

in history, feminism got somewhere everytime women took big actions against the patriarchy. posts are good, little actions help, but we need to make real noise. de frapper un grand coup. this way, we will be safer, and the patriarchy will be severly wounded.

[genkishoujo]

can someone explain how marxism is the same as liberal feminism and the KKK? i'm not well read enough on theory to understand

also. how have you 'studied south korean feminism for 6-7 months' but you still havent seen this paper? or did you read it and decide you were still onto something here??

[gacha-incels]

”My Life is Not Your Porn” I remembered seeing this phrase/protest slogan from an earlier protest about spycam digital sex crimes in 2018, and there’s a human rights watch document from 2021 with the same name that has a lot of information in english about digital sex crimes in South Korea from that time. you can read it all in your browser there, personally I imported it into my cracked note taking app so I could highlight and write shit on top of it on the go, so this is why there’s some highlighting on my pages. I’ll post the opening here:

and a small section on the 2018 protests specifically

it’s basic but good info, this was just the summary so it’s not going to go into detail. I’ll read through the document again and post more information as needed. I believe these protests were also mentioned in the molka documentary that was posted here as well.

[abwwia]

For Youngmi and many others who subscribe to its basic premises, 4B, or “practicing bihon,” is the only path by which a Korean woman today can live autonomously. In their view, Korean men are essentially beyond redemption, and Korean culture, on the whole, is hopelessly patriarchal — often downright misogynistic.

- Youngmi and her friends created a map of women-owned businesses in Daegu so they could ensure their dollars went to supporting other women. “The economy is a very important issue for us,” she told interviewer . https://www.thecut.com/2023/03/4b-movement-feminism-south-korea.html?utm_source=tw&utm_campaign=thecut&utm_medium=s1

[ichverdurstehier]

Korean men: women are objects to be protected

Also Korean men: if you protect your sister we'll give you life in prison

[antarctite]

like obviously most of the women advocating for separatism, bioessentialism and political lesbianism are white - that’s always been the case - but thats especially obvious when a lot of usamerican white women on social media are labeling these ideas with the 4B movement. which was first in response to how the patriarchy in south korea affects the women and girls there. and the Four No’s doesnt include “change your sexuality” and “isolate yourself from everyone you define as a man.” but hey who am i to tell these white women (who also probably voted for trump if they voted at all) that using the name of a south korean movement to reinforce essentialism actually plays into the patriarchy!

[spiderfreedom]

Meanwhile, some women [in South Korea] received an advanced education, like Na Hye-Seok, the country's first Western-style painter and an iconic writer. One of the so-called "New Women," Na was born in 1896 to a wealthy family and learned about feminism in Japan, where she studied the arts and read various feminist texts, including Henrik Ibsen's A Doll's House. The theatre play inspired Na's poem "Nora," a rallying cry for women to defy patriarchal norms:

I was a doll As the doll of my father as a daughter As the doll of my husband as a wife I was their toy Let Nora go […] I am a person Before being a wife of a husband Before being a mother of a child First, I'd like to become a person […] Ahhh girls Wake up and follow behind Rise up and radiate power The bright light of the new day shined.

From “Flowers of Fire.”