#felix was also adriens prototype

[dazeddoodles]

I have a headcannon that Caduceia is Raine’s transphobic cousine who keeps deadnaming and missgendering them. Eda once had an unpleasant run inn with her while she was dating Raine.

I was about to question if she would be transphobic when she herself dresses masc.

But then I remembered she's supposed supposed to be a toxic doctor character. And also there are terfs who dress like that.

So maybe she would keep bringing up "biology" in a matter a of fact way. (She'd be the doctor that asks fat people if they tried losing wait when that has nothing to do with the issue)

[matt0044]

Would what the PV presented have been better? Maybe. Maybe not. We don't know but fans act like it.

And it annoys me...

I never liked how some fans pine over the PV's presentation over what we'd get from Miraculous because it's basically them mulling over concepts and ideas that COULD'VE been "better" but they're just that: concepts.

PV Felix could've been better that Adrien. He could've also been executed poorly in writing.

PV Marinette could've been better. Also could've been executed poorly.

The 2D animation is only as good as it is because this was a short video less than five minutes long. If made into a full season of 26 episodes, I doubt that they could keep it consistently high quality. Only reason the show proper looks as good (the animation errors are not the end of the world, get over it, guys) as it does is due to multiple animation studios across multiple countries.

Though it does imply a full 2D pilot might've been made. I wouldn't mind a special episode based on the in-universe movie.

In any case, I feel like fans are too hung up over XYZ greivances they take with Miraculous proper and project them onto a prototype verison that could've pissed them over even more royally. It's something I worry about because it saved them the trouble of doing critical thinking.

[uptoolateart]

Prototype

In ‘Multiplication’, Tomoe tells Gabriel that ‘the prototype works perfectly’. *Shudder*

Obviously she means Alliance, but it’s inescapable that this is yet another ring, like the rings used to control Adrien and Felix. The end card shows Adrien and Gabriel in front of Alliance, to hammer this idea home.

So I’m here thinking of Adrien as the true prototype, because he was scanned and digitised for the AI in the rings. And yet again we have a link between Adrien and ‘perfection’.

It’s also interesting that in the advert Gabriel describes Alliance as ‘unique’, because this episode is called ‘Multiplication’, which is a contrasting idea. Every episode title has double meanings. Yes, Ikari Gozen used the power of the mouse, but...this is the same episode where we learn that Adrien’s identity has been stolen and his image multiplied through the rings.

So, what happens to the prototype? How can Adrien feel any sense of individuality? It makes it that much harder for him to determine what defines him as the real Adrien vs all these images everyone has of him.

And with Felix out there as such an obvious twin to Adrien...again, what makes him unique? Everything below the surface - the things Gabriel can’t copy.

But if you think about it, Gabriel has stolen Adrien’s identity just like he stole all the miraculous from Ladybug. He’s taken what matters most to each of them...and that can only be a catalyst for their growth.

[jacquesthepigeon]

The whole Adrien never knowing his father was HM it doesn't add up. At least I don't think is actually over. The leak could be the prototype and lots of things could change over time. The fact that there still some seasons to go. Not to mention that Felix also knows.

Why bother making them related if it’s not even gonna be used lmao but like u said the final material could be different

[gameguy20100]

Why tf are people comparing PV Felix (an older teen from the art style we see, who was trying to get rid of a CURSED RING by any means he believed were fair, and while he was trying to trick ladybug into falling in love with him that's the thing. He needed the true loves kiss or some bullshut from a superhero who was completely uninterested in even talking to him he wasn't ever planning to force her.) to the current Felix (a probably even younger boy of around 16 ie even more stupid, who spent his screentime assaulting a young girl, manipulating and stealing .)

Also PV Felix just wanted to be left alone this one has basically trying to get the world to burn while moving towards his own goals

Because they have the same name. That is literally it.

What people forget is PV Felix was a prototype for Adrien not Felix.

And yeah PV Felix was just the stereotypical dark, brooding loner type of character. I'm pretty sure if he was around in canon and got akumatized he would have told Hawkmoth to get lost.

"Fuck off moth man! I'm reading my book and ignoring my parents."

[zoe-oneesama]

How do you feel about Felix de Graham (or whatever his last name is) as a character?

I don’t really have strong feelings any way about the character Felix. I’m curious if he’ll ever return but that’s about the extent of how much I think of him.

As a device though? Hooo-migod he’s hilarious. 

For the uninitiated, Felix has long been the Adrien prototype from the 2D days that was scrapped because Asstruc didn’t want a male lead that was aggressively pursuing the female lead for selfish reasons because he didn’t want to send a bad message to his audience that that sort of Bad Boy was a good romantic partner.

Cough.

What followed was probably years of the occasional tweet from Felix fans asking if he’d ever make an appearance despite being fully replaced with Adrien and Thomas was clearly frustrated by it because he eventually announced that Felix would NEVER return to Miraculous Ladybug. ((pretty sure he even tweeted that every time he was asked about Felix a kitten somewhere died or something to that effect but don’t quote me on that))

But that didn’t stop people from asking for him and I guess Tommy snapped because Hey Here’s Felix.

It’s pretty obvious from everything about Felix that Thomas’ thought process was “fine you little shits want Felix I’ll give you goddamn Felix, here he is stealing from his family members, trying to ruin Adrien’s friendships and forcing himself on Ladybug! There! You can’t like him anymore because he’s objectively awful so HA!”

Except that he kinda screwed that up? Felix is introduced alongside the explanation that his father recently died and that Adrien and Gabriel didn’t go to the funeral and also that Gabriel is keeping the ring that rightfully belongs to his mother. He has a built in reason to not only be emotionally compromised but also resentful of Adrien and Gabriel, which clearly motivates everything he does in this episode. 

Felix stealing Adrien’s phone to pretend to be him and ruin his friendships is bad, but how much more evil would it be if they didn’t give us a reason for Felix to hate Adrien?

Felix trying to kiss Ladybug despite her saying no is gross, but how much more misogynistic would it be if they didn’t give us a reason for Felix to want to ruin Ladybug’s perception of Adrien?

Felix stealing Gabriel’s wedding ring is selfish but how much more abhorrent would it have been if he did it for kicks and not because it rightfully belonged to his mother?

 For all the characters they’ve set up as Evil but Could Possibly Be Redeemed because they Have it Bad (Gabriel, Chloe, possibly Lila), Felix is the one they came in fully intending to paint as the bad guy and accidentally made him the most rightfully motivated and sympathetic “villain” yet. And it would’ve been so easy for them to make truly evil if they just had him making a casual house visit. 

It’s so obvious that Thomas brought Felix in to point out how much better Adrien is in comparison and instead I find him the most nuanced, interesting villain character they have in the roster and the fact that it’s pretty apparent that’s the opposite of what they were going for just makes it really funny to me. 

[liquid-luck-00]

When Two Coffee Addicts Unite 2

Part 2

@maribatmarch-2k21 Day 29: Wait!

Ao3 *** Part 1

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Marinette has been in Gotham for almost two months doing her class work online while working with Lucious Fox on the fabrics and the best way to show case them. If the prototypes happened to need testing and kept her warm no one mentioned anything. Luckily, Adrien, Kagami, and Chloe told her when the class would be arriving. Her luck also held seeing as she had and apartment in Gotham, thanks to her uncle Jagged, she wouldn’t be in the hotel. Because of this she and her friends were allowed to stay at the apartment so long as there was a responsible adult with them. Jagged would say it was him, but the group of five were allowed to stay in the apartment, so long as they made it to school, W.E., and any mandatory events unless given permission to skip.

The first day of classes wasn’t too bad, thanks to being ahead and he placements, meaning that very few people from her class were with her. Thank kwamii Felix was such a book worm that she had at least one familiar face.

Arriving at Wayne Enterprises was another story. The two busses and the car that held Mari and her friends arrived. Marinette was going to just walk in when she was pulled back by miss Bustier.

“You must wait Marinette.” She smiled at her condescendingly.

“Hello I am Bruce Wayne. I only have a moment.” He scanned the crowd when his sights fell on her. “Miss Marinette what are you still doing out her.” He seemed to speak only to her.

“Just held up for a moment.” She replied to the billionaire, who may or may not be the same person she demolished at UMS III yesterday, when she was hanging out with Tim, the rest were sleeping off jet lag.

“Head on up would you, Lucious is waiting.”

“Of course,” a blindingly charming smile on her face. “you wouldn’t mind if I took up the interns for my team, now would you?

She could see that he could tell what she was planning. “I don’t see a problem with that. Seeing as they will be aiding the upcoming show after all.” He motioned for the receptionist to proceed.

“Oh! Um, of course.” The woman flipped through a few pages. “Mr. Adrien Agreste, Mr. Felix Graham de Vanily, and Miss Chloe Bourgeois. Please come forward and collect your badges.”

With that the four of them would have walked in had Lila mot started making a commotion. “Wait! Why are you letting them in without explanation?!”

“If you wouldn’t mind Bruce?” he only nodded to give her permission. “You see the reason I haven’t been in France is because I have been working on a partnership project with Wayne enterprises. I, for the duration of this project am considered a department head. Right now, I need to go up and continue my work.”

“But why are you taking them with you?”

“The three of them have been assigned to be interns and a part of this project. Is that a problem Miss Rossi?” She quirked her head and brow. When she didn’t get an answer, she headed in with Adrien, Chloe, and Felix in tow.

“Nettie! Thank god, okay so you better at this than me seeing as I need to figure out a way to be cordial with Luthor.” Tim ran into the elevator before it closed.

“Voice call, video call, meeting, or email?”

“Voice call.”

“Deep breaths keep to the points you need and stick to them. If he grates on you can always sick him on me.” The two of them laughed. “Oh, that’s right, this is Adrien, Felix, and Chloe.” The five were walking down the hall to the room she and Lucious were working in. “Guys this is Tim Drake.”

“Nettie’s told me a lot about you guys.”

“And we’ve heard quite a bit about you.” Chloe bumped into Mari and if she blushed no one was any wiser, hopefully.

They got to work and an hour in did the question come up.

“So, who is this Luthor, Tim did not want to Talk to?” Chloe asked.

“That would Be Lex Luthor of Lex Corp.” Lucius answered.

“Okay so why offer for him to turn him to you?” Adrien brought up.

“Okay remember last month, when whenever you guys called, I was irritable?”

“What of it?”

“At that point I hadn’t slept in almost a week, and well one thing lead to another.”

- - -

Marinette had stalked into the building a huge cup of coffee in one hand, a tablet in the other going over designs and fabric functions.

She was already in a mood seeing as there were four separate akumas from midnight to noon in Paris, meaning it was six pm to six amin Gotham. She didn’t even have a chance to sleep.

The week before were random attacks from both akumas and amoks. Add to the fact she still had class work and this show to put on she was seriously lacking sleep.

She stopped by her temporary office space dropped off her coffee, bag, and coat. Checked the time, 8:15 am, grabbed a stack of designs and the function reports from the fabrics and the tech that will accompany them. With that she made it up to Tim’s office and walked in.

Immediately she noticed that he was close to screaming, but to anyone else it would seem like he was mildly frustrated. “Monsieurs Wayne. There are a few things that need your…”

“Who do you think you are to interrupt this meeting. Or are you blind as well as stupid.”

“Excuse me?” She didn’t raise her voice, but her posture shifted, but most importantly her aura changed. You see most people think ladybugs are harmless, but most forget Ladybugs are carnivorous and are known to cannibalize other ladybugs. She quickly flicked her wrist and noted the time, 8:18 am. “You see if I am not mistaken, I was scheduled to meet with Monsieur Wayne at 8:20 to go over a secret project between Wayne Enterprises and the designer MDC. Seeing as it my scheduled time you are intruding upon Monsieur…”

“Luthor. Lex Luthor of…”

“Lex Corp. I am aware of your position, but seeing as this is neither your office, your building, nor your company. Added to the fact that this is not currently your scheduled meeting time slot. I believe it best for you to wait outside until we are finished. Or are you honestly that belligerent and stupid that you cannot read a clock, Monsieur Luthor.” For a moment he simply sat there his moth pressed in a line, before silently standing and sulking out of the room.

- - -

“Wait you sent Lex Luthor, one of the most powerful men in the world, sulking out of a room without lifting a finger?” Adrien announced shocked.

“Well I was seriously sleep deprived and did not have a single care left to give, besides, I have good teachers.” She shot Chloe and Felix a smile, and a thought to Kagami, stationed in Security, she may specialize in swords but knowing how to use a gun and taser isn’t bad to have.

“what did he say when he finally saw you again?” Chloe was now fully invested in the gossip.

“He apparently did a quick search on me and found out I am MDC. The most connected and influential female under the age of twenty. The muttered a small apology but wouldn’t look me in the eye.”

“According to Bruce Wayne Luthor apparently, muttered something of how with your influence you may damage lex corps reputation.” Lucious added a hit of a smile.

“Well he’s not wrong.” She shrugged and the room laughed as they continued to work.

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[lady-literature]

A Miraculous DC Crossover

ALL RIGHT!!

I’ve been sucked into this unholy sub-fandom and I have thoughts okay? lots of them. Almost none are coherent and I don’t care. I have no plotline to write a fic but by the gods do I need to get out all my ideas.

Behold:

the Salttm

Lila, obviously. But she’s a petty nuisance at best, and an annoyingly competent akuma to fight at worst. manipulative, but not really dangerous ya feel?

Alya. which like, home girl probably doesn’t deserve but like,,, the drama??

CHLOE REDEMPTION YOU COWARDS

She and Marinette become surprisingly good friends (because I love that for both of them and you can pry it from me cold, dead hands)

Nettie-bug and Queenie

They pick on Adrien together

Mari’s friends Protection Squad That Don’t Take No Shit

Adrien

Chloe

NINO BITCH HE DESERVES MORE LOVE TBH

Alix?? Probably

Luka obvi

Felix (PV)?? Or does Marinette have enough emotionally constipated boys in her life?

(Answer: no. no she does not.)

Nath? He be a good fox tbh. creative and sneaky boi

Kagami!!! I love her

They’re all heroes because I say so.

Felix (Sparrow) is an honorary member even though he doesn’t have a miraculous

He handles PR and other background things along with Chloe

Joined up a few years back when Parisians were getting a bit too critical of the heroes

No Hawkmoth b/c fuck that guy

He existed, just not anymore. Bitch got yeeted

There’s other villains in town now. After Hawkmoth’s defeat other metas/supervillains looked at Paris and was just like, ‘free real estate?”

So now the Miraculous Team are Paris’ Actual Full-Time Hero TeamTM… yay.

Ladybug, Chat Noir, and Abielle (or like, Wasp/Yellow Jacket idk Chloe changes her name because ~identity stuff~) are the core three team. like, the wonder woman/batman/superman trio of the MTeam.

Nath is called Reynard Ambre b/c I love him

The public knows he exists but he’s never seen in battle and no pictures exist.

but there are plenty of instances where Paris knows he out mucking around because those akuma battles always get really weird.

Marinette be the guardian?

Guardian in training

Along with all the other holders b/c jesus. Give the girl a break.

Yeah. I like that Idea. All current holders are training to be guardians as well, but Mari’s going to step up as Guardian Supreme when Fu steps down.

Hero fashion!!!

The Miraculous Team is all decked out in their own merch like 24/7

Rarely is it thier own hero persona tho

Not because of like,,,, secrecy or anything. Just because they’re all nerds who love each other

Marinette is the lead producer of Miraculous Merchandise. It’s like,,, her BrandTM It was completely unintentional too

(Adrien and Chloe financially support her work tho. She designs, makes a prototype, and has her two blondes get others to replicate it)

Half of Paris is wearing her without knowing it

(Go MDC! get it girl!)

She totally makes Gotham inspired outfits because what else would she do????

Don’t get her wrong, most of Gotham’s fashion sense royally pisses her off but it’s fun and hey, supporting her fellow heroes ya know?

She wears a Robin hoodie after being officially acquainted with both Damian and Robin (separately of course)

Damian chokes on something, probably his own tongue.

It confuses Nettie. But then she thinks maybe he’s a fan too? She offers to make one for him but he steadfastly refuses much to his brothers’ amusement.

Might make a robin themed dress?? If so, she crosses paths with Robin when she does, thoroughly embarrassing her and almost sending poor Dami into a crisis.

Rogues Gallery

She makes a lot of designs off the rouges gallery because like, supporting people trying to get better??? also they’re some of the few who’s aesthetic aint shit?

She can’t make all of them because she ran out of time, so the rest get posited up on her Instagram and MDC blog (that’s run by Tikki mostly. She’s a great secretary and gets bored in Mari’s purse all the time)

Everyone is very flattered

Harley, if she ever finds it, immediately commission all pieces and wears them around Gotham don’t @ me

Daminette obvi

Marinette meets him and is just like ‘wow, you’re horrible. I want five’

Marinette, in the group chat later: so I met Kagami and Felix’s love child today

Kagami and Felix, seconds apart: I would never stoop so low

immediately after: Hey what the fuck? Rude

Nino: Nettie, dearest, sunshine, light of our collective lives and reason I breathe, what the fuck

Adrien: Kagami, my love, how could you? the Betrayal

Chloe: ew

Luka: Send pics or it didn’t happen

Nath: [insert the ‘right in front of my salad?’ meme]

Whenever they cross paths as Robin and Mari, he’ll just like,,, appear from nowhere hanging upside down spiderman style. Mari finds it endearing but she also wants him to stop scaring the shit out of her

Nicknames, because I have an unhealthy obsession with them, alright?

Misc Mari names: Bug, Bugaboo, Buginette, Madame President/Colonel (when the Team’s being cheeky), Princess, Marigold, Nettie (by like, Nino and Alix)

Jason calls her Pixie-pop

The bird boys call her Nightingale/Mockingbird in like, honor of her being a kickass civillian

Mari refers to them as ‘the flock’ (and bird-brains after getting to know them better)

Damian calls her: Starling, Habibti, ya qamar(my moon), malaki (angel), ya wardati(my flower) (b/c like, angel’s cute an all but I just think Damian’s way more dramatic than that tbh. he’d put thought into his nicknames)

Mari calls Damian: mon soleil (my sunshine) (because symmetry and also Mari thinks she’d hilarious), Birdie, petit oiseau/oisillon

I like the idea of Jagged being a native Gothamite tbh

it’s just so fun honestly???

He’s probably the reason the MTeam are in Gotham in the first place? maybe? anyway, the class is there, right? right. 

Kagami, Luka and Felix are all holding the fort down in Paris. Ain't no akumas but sometimes they need backup so when certain heroes need to disappear, Nath has Trixx set up an illusion of whichever one so they can slip away with the horse miraculous.

Mari’s the one who has to leave the most because she’s still Paris’ damage control, so like,,,,, ya know.

Mari doesn’t get left behind, at least not on the first day b/c come on people! She has plenty of friends in class watching out for her and a semi-competent teacher who does care even if she’s non-confrontational to a fault.

She does eventually become separated from the group. Half because of Lila and half because she’s always fucking late and got distracted.

She actually runs into one of the civilian batfam in the first place because the class was allowed an hour or so to wander around the shopping district or whatever to explore/buy things/get food. They just needed to return to the meetup spot at a certain time but Mari is like ten minutes away when it’s five minutes to the meetup

So she’s just… fucking booking it and completely takes out this trained vigilante without trying to.

Mari, as she’s groaning on the ground, tangled around a boy: By Kwamii, I thought my luck was supposed to be good Tikki.

That or like, the subway doors close before she can get on them and the rest of the class ends up ahead of her leaving her to get caught up on some bullshit in the next train or smth.

Oh, like. Of course it’s her train that gets held hostage. Wonderful.

(Later, Mari will rant at Tikki about her luck. A common conversation between the two tbh.)

This could be where she officially meets the Batfam as the Batfam. Or, like. A couple of em, at least.

Marinette getting serial adopted by the whole goddamn batfamily because i will die for this trope tbh i dont even care

The Robins nickname her Nightingale before they realize she’s Ladybug

They still call her that after but it’s not with the intention of making it her hero name anymore

Her and Alfred are def bros you don’t understand

Actually, Gina and Alfred are old friends. Mari totally knows Alfie before the bat fam and calls him Poppy/Pépé

which floors the batfam because what? Since when does that happen???

Alfred and Mari never, like, actually met in person before, but video chats exist and Gina def talks about the two to each other so it’s like they may as well know each other.

I also like the idea of Alfred being a former holder, probably the peacock. I would adore that

Just,,,, so many fun hero shenanigans

Yeah sure. The batfam are super detectives and have a history of figuring out people’s identities in no time at all. Whatever. Where’s the drama in that though? The showmanship?

Fuck canon, the Miraculous all have glamours because magic bitch and it plays fucking hell on the Batfam and all their shit

Every single Batfam member is simultaneously pulling their hair out because they don’t know who these heroes are???? Why can they figure them out?? Confusion???????

Miraculous team is just…. Straight up laughing at them. The poor dears.

That one gag where it’s a well-known secret that Mari has connections to every Parisian hero and is basically their own personal catering service/comfort place.

Also, it’s the worst kept secret in Paris that Mari is Multimouse

None of the MTeam have confirmed that rumour but they also don’t deny it.

they actually started the rumour. If all of Paris thinks Mari’s the mouse, a temporary hero, no one’s going to think she’s Ladybug/or that she’s an easy target to go after

chloe actually came up with that one

Mari meeting all of Damian’s ‘associates’ (ie pets)

She adores all of them and they her.

Especially GOLIATH, why isn’t he talked about more honestly???? He’s GREAT

She meets Goliath as Ladybug and Robin is just… so done with him??? You are supposed to be a fearsome beast and a professional why are you rolling over and expoSING YOUR STOMACH??? Meanwhile, Ladybug is just: Awww! Who’s a good boy? Who’s the best boy? You are! Look at how handsome you are! Cute widdle baby-

Miraculous Team hanging on the roof of their hotel kinda chilling

Maybe having a debate about doing some free-running/parkour?

Also maybe about whether or not they should be heroes while in Gotham

MT being like, why can’t we go and stop an armed robbery? we can help!

“Gotham already has very active heroes-”

“Vigilantes!”

“-whatever. I don’t want us stepping on any toes. This isn’t our terf and Batman’s known for being strict about Metas rolling around here.”

“We aren’t Metas though.”

“I don’t think he’ll enjoy splitting that particular hair, Nino. Just- not unless lives are at stake, okay? Emergencies only.”

“Yes, Colonel Ladybug.”

This debate most def gets crashed by batfam and confusion ensues upon both sides

batfam didn’t hear anything, they’re just really confused about these french kids hanging out on a roof in Gotham

Just.... yes. all of that. I have like, more but those are not organized or even remotely coherent. here you go! I might write for this but I already have other fics rn so... it wouldn’t be for a while. and as I said, I have no plot.

take this though, i guess. *throws confetti*

[xhanisai]

AU where Gabriel is Chat Noir and Adrien is Papillon

- And Marinette is still Ladybug

- Let's call this the Holy Shit Gabriel is a good guy? AU

- Adrien is the villain/anti-hero in this

- Backstory time :D

- Gabriel has been sentenced to jail for murdering his wife, Emilie Agreste, when Adrien was only eight years old.

- He was bailed out after two years, created a whole new identity and now goes by as Felix Roi (fuck knows why I just came up with the name just now)

- He works as taxi driver, trying to live a calm, redeemable life despite heavy burdens and guilt. No one knows he's Gabriel. He has facial hair, styles his hair differently and wears contacts. He sticks to the outskirts of Paris.

- Gabriel never meant to kill Emilie, it was an accident.

- Adrien doesn't know that (along with everyone else)- he thinks his father is a murderer and vowed to find Gabriel and kill him with his bare hands.

- Ever since the accident, Natalie became Adrien's legal guardian. They live in a modest yet comfortable house, with Natalie working day and night as a lawyer.

- This means that they rarely spend time much to Natalie's dismay.

- Adrien is a lot more tame, cunning and observational in this AU. He's a bit more selfish too. (Maybe a bit like his PV prototype character) He's still relatively polite, never modelled, never met Chloe.

- Adrien refused to socialise and stuck with homeschooling till he gave into Natalie's pleas and began attending Mari's school just before he turned fourteen (so yeah working along canon events)

- A few days before school, when visiting his mother's room in the old abandoned mansion, Adrien finds the butterfly miraculous in a hidden room.

- Here's a small snippet of the interaction between Adrien and Nooroo:

"This notebook says that you grant powers to the weilder, the ability to use the emotions of hosts and turn them into champions that will obey the weilder's whims..."

"Please...Adrien...you're a young child. Don't do anything horrific with this power..."

"Listen, I have no interest in taking over the world or any of that crap. I just need your help in finding my father, please."

"O-oh? That's a relief! You're a good host then aren't you? Pardon me for prying...may I ask a question?"

"You don't have to be so polite. And yes, sure?"

"Has your father gone missing? Or something along the lines?"

"Nope. He's hiding."

"...why?"

"Because he knows that once I find him, I will kill him."

- Adrien explains what Gabe did to his mother, his mindset has concluded that Gabriel would kill more people. Nooroo tries to reason with Adrien, saying how two wrongs don't make a right. Adrien remarks with:

"If you're not on board, then that's fine. I'll do this alone, just like I've always been doing so."

- The kwami then persists to help Adrien, internally vowing to change the boy for the better.

- Gabriel receives the black cat miraculous after saving Fu's life (the old man fell in a river, Gabe jumped in and saved him, even paid all the hospital expenses).

- The dynamic between Plagg and Gabriel is pretty hilarious. Plagg likes to annoy Gabe as much as possible, eat everything in the fridge and even pull pranks.

- The dynamic between Gabe when he's Chat Noir and Ladybug borders on father-daughter like. Gabriel is a bit awkward at first, having zero knowledge and little interaction with children. He's even a bit cold to Ladybug at first. He warms up to her soon, realising she's around his son's age and promises to protect her from harm. If he couldn't do anything right for Adrien, he could at least redeem himself with Ladybug.

- Ladybug lovingly teases him as Pére Noir to rile him up.

- Adrien calls his little butterflies "helpers" and the people he akumatises "Knights". He goes for negative emotions because they're the easiest to control. Only the Knights know that Papillon is after Gabriel Agreste specifically. The rest of Paris plus the heroes are left to guess as the Knights tear through the city, searching.

- Papillon, Chat Noir and Ladybug all meet face to face on the first day of the akumatisation (Stoneheart). Ladybug declaring that she and her partner will protect Paris whilst Papillon stands there silently with his hoard of butterflies. He leaves without a word, humoured by the heroes.

- Ladybug's first impression when Papillon appears:

"Oh shit he's hot-"

- Insert Chat Noir facepalming himself.

- Marinette becomes Adrien's first ever friend when he joins the school. They mutually fall for each other.

- Adrien shows his love by soft, subtle gestures (tucking the hair behind Marinette's ear, smiling at her, brushing his fingers with hers, etc)

- Marinette sometimes stammer but quickly gets over that, only blushing profusely when Adrien's around and letting herself sass him.

- The duo become so close, painfully obviously in love with each other yet blind to the other's affection. Neither want to pursue too much because of their side jobs lel.

- Both Mari and Adrien open up not just to each other but to their class as well. Adrien starts to realise what he's been missing out on in life.

- He gets jealous really easily. Also, since he's behind on social norms, some things he say is rather...odd...

"What's wrong with me saying I want the whole world to know Marinette's mine, that's why I gave her a bell necklace?"

"DUDE. YOU JUST DON'T."

"I only said she smelt good?"

"Adrien, boy, hun. You had the look on your eye that made us think you were going to eat her up."

- Papillon does come out sometimes as his Knights search through the city, observing. His butterflies are able to make a temporary shield around him to stop the heroes from nabbing him. One time, he was drinking tea within the shield, after he was defeated, letting the heroes make a fool of themselves in trying to pierce it.

- Papillon doesn't have a timer, rather, he is very vulnerable and can only possess one person per day.

- The real villain pops up one day, a peacock themed villain. She calls herself Mayura and is after all the miraculouses.

- The trio have no choice but to work together in defeating her villains. She's incredibly strong.

- Mid fight against her, Ladybug had to run off to recharge. The villain comes across her when she's currently Marinette, only for Papillon to save her.

- It's the first time she sees him engage combat.

- He swiftly takes her somewhere safe. Marinette is taken aback with how worried he looked as he checked for any injuries on her. She hates how her heart skips a few beats over this.

- With a relived sigh, Papillon leaves but not before giving a chaste kiss on the corner of her lip and telling her to stay safe before leaving away.

- Marinette combusts on the spot.

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hey sorry for the stupid ask- I stopped watching after S1 (need to get back into ML ahah) but I thought felix was like oooo forbidden character? Or is there someone else called felix?

well, I don’t know what you mean by “forbidden.” He started off as a prototype of Adrien, but in the leadup to the show’s release it was revealed that Chat Noir was going to be a guy named Adrien instead. Some fans really loved Felix’s premise and so decided to maintain a fandom based on his character. This is all fine, but people then decided to keep asking Thomas Astruc on his Twitter if he would bring Felix back into the show. It’s hard to tell if he’d always planned on the Felix episode, but with each progressive instance of getting asked (he got asked a lot) it went from “nah he doesn’t really suit the story” to “I don’t want to think about him again because he’s a bad character and you guys shouldn’t like him.” 

I don’t know exactly what the story is behind him actually appearing in the main show. According to Felix’s number one fan edorazzi, Jeremy Zag seemed to be publicly open to including Felix in the show, and she believes that Zag might’ve been the one to suggest it, with Thomas still disliking Felix but following the producer’s request. But Thomas has also been known to lie about direct questions on Twitter in order to preserve a surprise so I also have to wonder if he wasn’t planning on an episode all along.