#evo 2019

[bellshazes]

in my heart there's another probably worse universe where instead of the watchers taking off after evo, etho's writers from 404 became the highly misunderstood "i am fictionalizing and poking fun at my relationship with my audience & their perceptions of me and how i am motivated by them but not in a 1:1 cause and effect relationship and they are kind of obnoxious but i also care abt my literal audience liking what i do bc i do make stuff for youtube" fandom staple.

there's something substantial in here abt grian being SUPER particular abt things in a different but parallel way to etho (grian not watching other smp member's POVs and being open abt that bc it allows for genuine surprise, etho's like everything ever? but top of mind his old insistence against modded stuff, comment of the day, etc.) but honestly. can anyone who actually cares abt the watchers or whatever write me a 404 crossover. thats what i want

[jdrawsshit]

Drew this Grian as a twitter shirpost but figured yall would want to see him too-

[opelman]

Ferrari 488 GTE EVO / Davide Rigon / ITA / Miguel Molina / ESP / AF CORSE by Artes Max Via Flickr: FIA WEC Prologue 2019 / Circuit de Barcelona

[viper-motorsports]

Set against the rolling hills of Northern California’s wine country, the fourth round of the 2019 Blancpain GT World Challenge America gets underway with KPAX Racing’s N°3 Bentley Continental GT3 Evo grabbing a second place podium to open the weekend at Sonoma Raceway.

[elchaqueno]

Revelan las claves de la Crisis política de 2019

Luego de las recientes declaraciones de dos diputados con relación a Evo Morales, Omar Aguilar, ex senador del MAS-ISP, dio a conocer nuevas revelaciones acerca de aquella turbulenta época. Según él, era un civil el que mandaba, Luis Fernando Camacho; además, manifestó que el masismo, en ese entonces, estuvo cerca de perder la personería jurídica, hecho que habría significado su exclusión de los…

[go-learn-esperanto]

I feel the need to explain that the original post was made with the intention of disproving the "All fandom Watcher interpretations come from ATUS" argument and not to criticise people who do in fact make ATUS fanart, fanfic, etc... Because in my humble opinion there's not really much of a problem with people doing that, despite the situation i mentioned above. I say that because

The fanfiction itself doesn't have anything worth criticise from a moral standpoint. It's just a fic about Watchers. There's nothing problematic in there.

It's a fanfiction. There's no money being made and honestly I don't think the author has touched it since 2019 as the author's Tumblr, which doesn't exist anymore, is still listed in the end of the fic.

If it's something that made you happy and you want to talk about it I see no reason for you not to do so. You aren't supporting anything. You aren't giving anything to the person who wrote it.

At this point it's yours. Go funky with it. Have fun talking/drawing scenes from it. There's nothing morally wrong with it.

Watchers - Evo, ATUS and Fandom

It's very common to see people blame ATUS for the way the fandom sees the watchers now but... How much did it actually come from there?

Wings (and statues):

Although the depiction of Watchers specifically having wings does exist in ATUS it's very clearly originated from Evo itself as Grian was once left a statue of what Grian called at the time "an angel lady" who had wings Grian was tasked with burning down (they represented his greed)

You can see the EVO symbol in glass above the statue.

Even though the statue isn't exactly stated as representing a Watcher it's not really stretch, specially since the statue appears to have a obsidian staff, the same obsidian the Watchers used to cover Grian's chests.

Puzzles and riddles

Evo originated. All it's presence in ATUS comes directly from Evo. The only change might be the inclusion of stained glass windows depicting Watchers. Although I wouldn't jump to conclusions if someone right now decided to draw Watcher Grian stained glass art as it's a very common trope in general with God-like beings. Very much brought by Catholic representations if angels, saints, Jesus and the likes.

Masks

This one is one I can safely say, if you see fanart like this with a mask that isn't see through with the Evo symbol it almost certainly came from ATUS. Variants with a blindfold instead of mask might be inspired by this too. Even if the artist isn't exactly aware.

Eyes

Very nuanced topic. For startersthe name Watchers automatically inspires the idea of eyes. Of being watched too. But there's more options.

Evo never explicitly represents the Watchers with eyes.

ATUS does it a little bit. At one time when one of the masks is taken from a Watcher (that isn't Grian) they're face is shown to have a lot of eyes. However this isn't the full "wings and whole body are full of wings". Not even "Void with eyes" you now see a lot too in fandom.

I have multiple theories. The most obvious is Biblical accurate angels. Lots of wings, circles, eyes in the whole body, these are almost certainly angel originated.

Now the idea of being able to watch everything could've come from a lot of places. Even some Magnus Archives influence can be here (even if some minimal)

I will say the Watcher in ATUS are a bus disappointing in the "all seeing" department. They can sense some things but they aren't that powerful or at least scary with that.

Controlling worlds

Evo originated as the Watchers gave clues to the players so they find portals to the next updates + the puzzles + gifts and punishments. They were very much in control

Purple

Evo. From the literal Minecraft portals to the Evo icon it was very much present the whole time.

Powers

ATUS makes use of some powers like telekinesis and the like. There is even some mention to being able to use blocks that aren't allowed/present.

The telekinesis part is very much an ATUS thing even though again - if someone is going to give powers the ability to magically move objects would be the first choice.

The part of bloks that aren't accessable to a normal player are more nuanced. In Evo the Watcher did build structures with obsidian and bedrock which are either extremely tasking to get or impossible so the grounds for that are very much there.

The ability to show up in dreams is present in ATUS but considering Taurtis' lore in Evo I'm not surprised it was inspired by that. It's not the same as the Watchers never appeared in Taurtis' dreams but Taurtis did miss going through the portal because he was sleeping and woke up to seeing everything purple with a portal animationor even more likely: the ATUS part came from the angels showing in people's dreams in the bible so again - might be in ATUS but it doesn't mean the people who write / draw stuff with it took it from there.

The Watchers destroyed Evo

Surprisingly, Evo based. As someone reminded me well, after Grian left the Watchers threw a meteor at the Property Police I believe. This leads to

Watchers are Evil

Depends of who you watch. Grian's playthings gives room for doubt. They give gifts and punish. They seem neutral at least. You could argue though that a lot of Grian's punishments were deserved. They were because Grian basically liked to prak and blow up other people's stuff.

They can be about platful as I saw someone describe them once.

Also the modification of the end poem, the one that reveals Grian turns into a Watcher himself, is quite fond.

Martyn and Jimmy on the other hand play the Watchers as more evil even in Evo. As they are more connected with the Listeners and the Listeners oppose the Watchers.

In ATUS they are shown as feigning compassion and being very manipulative.

But if you follow Last Life canon they are also shown as manipulators.

+ In Grian's lore specifically they are canonically a representation of the viwers (you and me) but this has seemed to change in Jimmy and Martyn's lore.

So I'd say ATUS made popular the "Grian was taken by the Watchers and they were awful" but the truth is that there was some ground to that already.

Watchers came from the void

Not specific stated in either Evo or ATUS actually. I don't think we ever really know where the Watchers exist in Evo but in ATUS they are from (a special kind of) the End... But there's also a logical reason for it.

Elytras and all the obsidian. And in Evo Grian got turned into a Watcher after he fought the ender dragon and used the end portal.

The idea of the void most likely comes from the void that surrounds the End.

Watchers are eldritch abominations:

Well, the Watchers in Evo don't have a canon physical appearance and in ATUS they are quite tame. A bit taller than maybe the average human, have wings, use robes... But nothing too monstrous. They use staffs and magic weapons to fight.

The idea if cryptic abomination comes from somewhere else. Probably a mixture of Biblical accurate angels and maybe some other pop culture monsters.

Bird features

100% neither Evo nor ATUS. Recent development that came from the wings and Grian's association with birds in Hermitcraft.

Grian's Watcher name is Xelqua

Surprisingly not ATUS! And not Evo either! The name is from Grian's old YouTube name but I don't know where the idea was first introduced. It wasn't in ATUS though.

Conclusion:

Except maybe the masks almost all stuff, even if more elaborated in ATUS, all the stuff as either came from Evo itself or even been inspired from something else (most likely biblical accurate angels). In fact I believe the stiff in ATUS mostly came from biical accurate angels too or just normal angels (long robes, stained glass windows)

So I think accusing all fandom depictions of the Watchers as all coming from ATUS is very silly. ATUS might have popularised the appearance of Watchers in Hermitcraft and in a way to have some Grian angst but it definitely isn't all there is to Watcher depictions. Besides that other fics have come and did things differently.

For exemple I have already read two fivs where Grian (a watcher) is a monster in the boaten hole. Yes. The idea he was like transformed into whatever he is by the Watchers might be very loosely be based on ATUS (although Watcher Grian in ATUS was never an eldritch being. He was just like a person with wings and a mask and he was still himself and capable of communicating) which in turn came from Evo but it's already very far removed from it.

Fandom changes. You might want people to watch Evo to take their own conclusions and you might ask for more variety but saying ATUS is the sole responsible for the state of fanon Watcher Grian is just false.

[fluffy-papaya]

‘people only hate watcher grian because it’s so popular!’ no actually i hate it because it was popularized/created by A 2019 Asshole who has left such a huge stain on hermitblr that some hermits still don’t like tumblr, it’s ruined any discussion/the tags of EVO, which existed as its own series outside of grian and the watchers, and it makes it impossible to ever talk about grian as a character because someone will Always try to make his character watcher-related, even when that isn’t applicable to the conversation.

[bishopony]

while we're on the subject of collections, here's all of mine! featuring ponies, the last unicorn, pokemon, and etc

these are my G4s and G3 favorites, all this stuff is crammed onto my one desk so it's not the most ideal for now lol. There are many more brushables but they just don't fit

right above those is my etc tier, mostly dragons and a couple Scar related things, adventure time, and LPS (more pending once I can find the rest)

the top tier featuring all my godzillas minus the 3 foot long giant one! in front with the chicken feather is 2014 goji, in the back with pinkie pie is 2019. you can also see Deet from dark crystal: age of resistance (highly recommend, it's on netflix but only has one season since it got cancelled in true netflix fashion), as well as my buddies Amelia and Rom from bloodborne, and the pyramid is a beetle my grandfather encased in resin back in the 80s for unknown reasons. on the wall to the left is a newspaper clipping of an ad for godzilla vs mothra from the 50s!

more ponies incoming, these are all my G1s, my changeling collection (still growing, I want an entire swarm), my mostly finished customs, and my Tabitha St. Germain corner to the right with Minty and Ditzy! In the back is the D&D/mlp collab figures. The sign on the wall I found at a thrift store and it says "horses gather here" lol

my last unicorn collection! this is the collection I'm most proud of, the displayed one to the right is a first edition I snagged for $70. The only editions I have left to collect are the super expensive deluxe/limited version (which just got harder thanks to Suntup releasing three VERY expensive special editions this year), but some of you will remember I did get super lucky earlier this year and unknowingly got a limited print, signed edition of the lost version for $3! so altogether I think the collection is worth around $1300

my pin collection! <3 some are in a display box and some are on my go bag so this isn't everything. the keychains are from my personal shop, a couple con badges I got in a merch trade (which I'm always open for if anyone's interested! I trade merch or art).

last one for now, this is the first page of my card collection! I'm not gonna show images of them all but these are the cool guys, I got these guys in a full 1996(? whenever the first printing was) japanese display box back when I was 15 for about $25, so that was quite the massive steal. These are technically leftovers, I've got all 3 starter evos and mewtwo in acrylic cases to display, and these guys are all double sleeved haha. I've got a lot of MTG cards as well but they're all in deck being used (if anyone else is into magic the gathering, do talk with me about it, I freaking love magic hahaha)

[cappa-cappa]

Rewatching X-Men Evo... V brain rotted. Decided to redo an old Lance drawing of mine! Original from roughly 5 years ago below cut.

Oh how far we've come since April 2019.

[allthegeopolitics]

Bolivia’s constitutional court has barred former President Evo Morales from running again for elected office, preventing him from contesting next year’s presidential election. The ruling, made public on Friday, also reaffirms a 2023 court order that a president cannot serve more than two terms, whether consecutive or not, and “without the possibility of extending it to a third term”. Bolivia’s first Indigenous president, Morales led the country from 2006 to 2019 and was extremely popular until he tried to bypass the constitution and seek a fourth term. The leftist won that vote but was forced to resign in 2019 amid deadly protests over alleged election fraud and fled the country.

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[infini-tree]

and i finally finish george's elecmon evolutions! and also put in harold's wormmon evos together. for symmetry.

the notes on Salmon/Bufeomon are here. Postmon/Archivemon are... much less cut-and-dry conceptually. Postmon is based on e-mail and communication/connection with a little bit of super sentai and hermes if by the former association (and also continues the Pun Names)

Archimon is based on the archiving/collection of information and indiana jones (but let's be real it's more 2019 carmen sandiego than anything). the hat may or may not be sentient and it attacks with it!

[pillbugpaints]

repostin bc I gave it an evo + shinies ^_^ platodd and platox

my fakemon concept for a water/poison platypus line from 2019 (bc platypuses have venomous spurs!!!)

I pictured this line maybe having a 3rd evo but I also kind of like it just being 2, platypuses are tiny lil guys

platodd would prob just be a water type and then gain poison when it evolves (holdover of it potentially being a water starter)

I've been having fun drawing in the 2D pokemon art style bc I'm kinda burned out on other 2D stuff atm. It's been really fun to look at past gen examples and try to get into the mindset of designing as if I'm a designer for the games (shapes, eye types, shading etc)

[theredch3rry]

It took Persephone 4 years to get her revenge on Grian because she got forced into multiple challenges because she had to prove something to Herobrine & also divorce Hades…

In the 4 years of 2017 - 2021

2017 - Evos

2018 - OneLife (1&2)

2019 - KingdomCraft

2020 - XLife

2021 - 3rd life (finally revenge)

Ik there was more than just these smp’s in these years but if you’ve realized these are all the smps that Lizzie & Joel aren’t allied in (minus kingdomcraft)…

KingdomCraft was Persephone’s final challenge.

[opelman]

Rallye du Condroz 2019 by Ste Tit

[viper-motorsports]

The 2019 Blancpain GT World Challenge America series opens at Texas’ Circuit of the Americas where K-PAX Racing’s newly acquired N°9 Bentley Continental GT3 earned a pair of second place podiums in the weekend sprints. (Photo: Jay Bonvouloir)

[kirstythejetblackgoldfish]

Is this going to be a Hugo Chavez (2002) situation?

Will it be an Evo Morales (2019) situation? Allowed to come back after a year and get on with life while having beef with his own party (the SASS™️)

Will Hafez Jr pop up in the NYT in ten years' time?

Will Bashar pop up in the NYT in ten years' time?