#esmp2!lizzie

[mariii-the-shapeshifter]

small tvau dump because i didn't know what to do with these

[freakyeahimacryptid]

back on that Mayor Lizzie brainrot

[gghostiis-shenanigans]

trying to do some thing. wrangling i s difficult i get why this stuff take sforever on ao3 /silly

anyways yeah this is my attempt at mapping the joel polycule, feel free to send me ideas but i am trying to keep this at least a little canon. so unless its something super obvious that i missed i would like some proof of interaction

edit: its finished

[10piecechickenmcnugget]

redid my designs for my empires superhero au cause the old ones sucked ❤️

[nikidykeachu]

For the first day of @mcytphysicaldisabilityweek ^__^!!!!

Lizzie was the first who came to mind lolz

[profffessionally-trained-ducky]

Thinking about them again (guy who never stops thinkinh about them)

[moomoorare]

if you leave like, please reblog too <3

the mayor of of Critter City 🦊🐸🐼, cutest kittycat and normalest person ever 🫶💖

[that-tall-queer-bassist]

Sister Psychic won't you tell me does it ever get better Can you really see the future or just predict the weather

Spotify link to Sister Psychic by Smash Mouth

Youtube link to Sister Psychic by Smash Mouth

This is my second piece for @mcyt-jukebox-bonanza!

[thecoolerliauditore]

UNNECESSARILY MEAN POST INCOMING holy fuck olis cover of deal with destiny holyyy fuck how ive wanted this. it's actually in his range. he can sing it. he can actually sing the song they wrote. this is crazy.

[angelthearsonist]

The difference between the current characters is crazy.

Joey is doing a treasure hunt, Katherine is building for villagers, Joel’s is building pixle art in Jimmy’s empire, Scott is having a colorful Industrial Revolution, Oli hatched the ender dragon then dipped for 3 weeks and we don’t know when he will come back, and Lizzy built a whole new City and toppled both Joey and Jimmy’s income by building a gunpowder farm with Fwhip

MEANWHILE

Jimmy and Shubble snapped and are currently going off the rails into villains, and sausages evil twin from a different dimension hopped over and took his place.

what is happening here???

[proshippearl]

do you have any sibling hcs?

oh uh uhm *fiddles through pages of notebook* okay you're getting this from the top of my head

Not exactly a headcanon, but I like whenever ESMP S2 Jimmy and Lizzie are portrayed as siblings. Even without the shipcest, I just find it cute and hilarious.

Saint Perla and ESMP S2 Sausage will always be adoptive mother/son in my heart.

Pearl and Grian will also always be brother and sister in my heart, and Grian is the older one.

Etho and Joel consider themselves to be brothers.

Jimmy and Tango also consider themselves to be brothers.

[bottomschlatt]

really don’t see enough in portrayals just how paranoid Lizzie is. like she simply does Not Trust anyone.

[alienssstufff]

lil spin on outfits inspired by joel & lizzie’s default mc skins 

clear ver of them separately!

aimed to design two outfits that both fantastical yet simple enough to pass as fashion you’d see today >floral patterns for lizzie inspo from her time as the fairyqueen (cat buns hair things homage to esmp2 lizzie) >green joel tribute to the old skin! teal/aqua patterns piled on a brown shawl ref to most his builds that consist of oxidised copper + earth palettes

[tubbytarchia]

pause. zoom. enhance. good universe smallidarity being the one where joel isnt homophobic. i need to know more about your bad universe smallidarity joel <3

LMAO well "bad universe smallidarity" is how I interpret smallidarity personally. I know my following has been curated a lot by this point but I still get anxious to comment on it out in the open, so I'm just gonna: This is about characters. It's about characters. Hello I'm talking about characters and this says absolutely nothing about any relationships present in the real world and I wouldn't have it any other way than it is now. This is about characters and I am a big fucking fan of Jizzie, don't even doubt me (said in general, not to you lol)

Anyway. I made a long post about this before but it's a little bit cringe so I'm gonna try to sum my thoughts up again: I love analysing Joel's freak behavior and to me his character reads as homophobic but in a deeply closeted way. His relationship with Lizzie is extremely cute but I get more aroace vibes from it than anything honestly. Their characters would have gotten together because, it made sense to. "Hey we like each other, might as well get married" and good for them, but although they are cute and every now and then proclaim their love, it feels more like an obligatory sentiment to make to me, their characters within the Life series and other SMPs I've watched with them just don't strike me as a couple if you take away the specific terms they use that confirm it. Like honest to god someone can try and make a compilation of that and I'm willing to bet that the compilation of him and Jimmy being weird would be at least comparable in length. And frankly I don't think Lizzie gives much of a fuck anyway

Joel's treated Jimmy very undesirably in the past, main culprit being ESMP2, until out of nowhere he chooses to end their rivalry and proclaim them two best friends instead, which Jimmy very easily goes along with. This very sudden change in their relationship being enforced by Joel makes me think he came to some revelation and had a good think about it. That's a lie, he's bad at that, he probably had a meltdown instead and didn't know how to fix things other than to go tell Jimmy "hey lets be friends now and um impose new law". This is where he contributed to the Jimmy ecosystem (AKA the harmful environment and people that enforce the idea that Jimmy is inherently lesser than them) the most and then abruptly stopped. Instances of him belittling Jimmy one way or another still happen afterward but it really has changed and become both more lenient and less frequent. What has been a constant however is the weirdass homoerotic behavior

This since and before ESMP2, but it really gives vibes of someone in love but neglecting to acknowledge it and/or combating those feelings with vocal disapproval of any intimacy that could be inferred. He has a wife after all, in fact, he'll remind you every chance he gets. Joel has no problem indulging in and joking about more sexual approaches vs more affectionate ones. Eg, the neck kisses, calling Jimmy babe, having pillow talk with Tango and literally making a baby with both Jimmy and Sausage in ESMP. But anything affectionate makes him feel vulnerable and so that's a no-no. I have no good explicit examples for this other than the fact that he just doesn't engage in affectionate engages/jokes much (not even with Lizzie) and him refusing to hold Jimmy's hand in SL. It's all jokes, and if it does get too sus, no worries, he can always just proclaim "I have a wife!!" as a no-homo safety net. But methinks he's just in denial. Unfortunately when he starts to grapple with his feelings I think he becomes homophobic and has probably called himself every slur out there. It'd make sense to me given how he often acts around Jimmy. It's not that he has anything against the concept of gay, he just doesn't know how to handle himself being gay

But, along with him trying to step out of the ecosystem and instead wanting to support Jimmy, he's also become more open to intimacy? For lack of a better word. He's been much less outward about his interactions with Jimmy being jokes, eg the RL and WL kisses where they're both just fucking soft about it man and just carry on, or him declaring himself to just be flirting with Jimmy to Gem and Scar in WL with no caveat. Still, Joel absolutely can't express genuine love or care in any conventional manner to Jimmy which hmm. Why might that be... WL puts Joel's worry for Jimmy to the forefront where he is VERY vocally upset about almost each of Jimmy's deaths but can't express this to him any other way than to call him a loser. Other people might hear of his worry (eg Gem) or he'll defend Jimmy to them (disapproving of the premature grave people built for him in SL. This in general is really important in signifying his departure from the ecosystem by disapproving of others within it). He is very nice to Jimmy, like in WL (especially considering Jimmy's several attempts at killing him for no real reason) but only outside of vocal confirmation

This is why in the smallidarity compilation I included clips like him in Phasmo just saying he was worried about Jimmy TO Jimmy because this fucker never says that so this is substantial material for me. It's character development, maybe he's slowly exiting the closet and coming to terms with his feelings and that he can be "vulnerable". Anyway that's why I label him homophobic but the point is that he really does care Jimmy a lot and he's been much better to him and by virtue less homophobic towards himself

[smallishzine]

we received a question about shipping, so here is our answer: (there is also important zine info unrelated to shipping at the bottom of the post)

Yes, ship art/writing is allowed, *however*, this is still a zine dedicated specifically to Joel, so if you choose to incorporate that into your piece, it must:

Have Joel as the central focus of the piece

Have something in the piece contributory to the zine besides shipping

be entirely sfw. This goes for any piece anyone makes, keep it Family Friendly. You don’t have to make it, like, toddler safe, and you’ll have a lot more leeway in gore and blood and violence and arson and all that good stuff because it is Joel we’re talking about, but please take pity on the ace-spec minor modding this zine.

try your best to stick to c!Joel’s canon relationships. We’ll be polling about this later but current plan is for the zine to feature pieces dedicated to all the eras of Joel’s content creation as like the thing that our zine is. I don’t know if we’re gonna go as far back as mousyluvscheese, and we’re probably gonna focus on just his Minecraft content unless someone expresses specific interest in doing a piece for something he did outside of that, but yeah that’s currently the plan. With that in mind what I mean by stick to canon is basically with the current plan everything we make up will be based off of what’s already there, so if your ship requires you to retcon and rewrite then probably no. The one exception is probably Lizzie, if she was on the smp then you are allowed to ship them as romantically (or non romantically qprs and other aroacespec headcannons are totally okay) as you want. I’m not sure if I’m explaining myself well so if you want me to elaborate further then feel free to send in an ask.

also I know that everyone has different definitions of ship art so like if you make it with romantic intent but it could also be interpreted as platonic then you don’t even really need to ask if that’s okay (in terms of shipping we’re still gonna make you run your ideas by us before you start working) Also if it happened in canon exactly the way you depicted it, such as Real Life smp smallidarity, double life boat boys, or esmp2 mythicalbeans, then you’re also probably in the clear.

also!!! And this is extremely important even if you definitely aren’t planning on including shipping!!! The plan for what’s going in the zine is in no way set in stone, it’s just a starting place to work off of right now, if you guys wanna do something else then fine by me! However, if the idea gets more difficult/complicated, then I’m gonna need your guy’s help to pull it off. If you wanna tell a complete story, like hotguy comic zine did, I’d love too!! But I’d need you guys to help come up with the story and write it and stuff, as I’m rather incompetent at most things. It was probably a bad idea to put me in charge of this thing. If you wanna make an in universe art book documenting a specific thing Joel has made, like scarland art book did? Sure, super down for that! But you guys would need to pick what thing. You wanna do something that’s never been done before in the zine scene? I’d love too! But you guys would have to come up with the ideas and then let me know, cause currently I got nuthin’. Don’t be afraid to send me asks, if there’s something you want to see Let Me Know!!! Everything is subject to change, and I love getting input from people who want to see the zine get made. If you’ve got ideas, send em’!

wow I got really off topic.

-mod Dinn

[fauxcoral]

More Mcyt Heroforge minfigs!

Haunted Seablings (Esmp1 Lizzie and Jimmy)

Usually I dont use the screenshot function in heroforge because of the blue glow, but Lizzie was too tall so I had to Spread the Skulk 1 (esmp2 Shubble)

Spread the Skulk 2 (Esmp2 Cub)