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#911 is very much a product of its genre#and that's neither a positive nor a negative thing imo#but if you're expecting it to be an intricate longform romance or a work of serious prestige television#you're going to be perpetually disappointed
is it too controversial to say that i think this fandom's biggest mistake was internalizing the idea that 9-1-1 is deeply intelligent and that the writers are on some whole other cosmic level? because. it was. like. this is not a hater post and, unlike some of you (not shade), i don't think 9-1-1 has declined in quality. i think it's a procedural that acts like a procedural. but. i do think that internalizing this idea that the writers are creative geniuses has deluded veeeery many of you into thinking you will like Every Single Idea that comes out of the writer's room. which is not realistic. subsequently, when these stories do not pass your personal muster, 9-1-1 is suddenly a Bad Show with Declining Quality when, really, it's just doing what procedurals do best, which is be campy, outlandish, and predictable. this + the glorification of season three as the Best Season, Perfect Television, No Faults Whatsoever has made very many people very unhappy campers in these later seasons which is... unfortunate. not my problem, but unfortunate nonetheless !
#it tries its best!#tbh it's a lot like emmerdale#it'll beat you like a dead horse with things#sometimes it can be subtle and wonderful#but most of the time not#911 abc#911 series#i wish i had a meta tag#fandom curmudgeon
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OBERLIN NEURO-PSYCHOTHERAPY AND PROFESSIONAL PI
LISTEN THICK SHIT, YOU'LL NEVER SING IT AGAIN BUT MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE WILL: REYNOLDS WORLD (YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST)
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VAPE PENS 139: 2ml CAPACITY PER THOUGHT (SOMEONE ELSE WILL DO IT FOR YOU)
GAVISCON ADVANCE PEPPERMINT LIQUID: BAD FOR DIGESTION (INNER TURMOIL BECOMES REALITY TO YOU (PERSONALLY)
HICHWA R.D. : DONT LOOK AT HIM
INTRUSIVE THOUGHT: "THE MAN LOOKED UP AND SAID CHEERFULLY:"
STACK:
CUSTOMER HAS LOST WEIGHT UNINTENTIONALLY?
DIFFICULTY BREATHING OR SWALLOWING?
SWOLLEN GLANDS IN NECK AND/ OR ARMPITS?
NECK STIFFNESS?
SYMPTOMS WORSEN QUICKLY?
HIGH FEVER?
CUSTOMER IS PREGNANT, BREASTFEEDING OR TAKING MEDICATION?
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RECOMMEND PRODUCT (PHARMACEUTICAL PULL)
LAST SEEN: 20/12 (THERAPIST DA (DOWAGER PRIMUS)
GENOCIDE ACT: BEVERLY HILLS
GAS: NO AIR
GARROTTE: NO BODY (SINGLE)
OMNISCIENT: PARENTAL CONTROL (AFFINITY)
REALPOLITIK: NEANDERTHAL EXPRESSION (LAST EX BOY SISTER)
PASSABLE: BEST NOWHERE (LIFELIHOOD)
DEAD MAY: RAVEN CALLED
TWINKLE: ANCY
993: PERMISSION ACCESS
ATLAS: SYMBOL PRODUCT (NO VOME)
ACCOMPANIED NEIGHBOURHOODS DENIED ACCESS FOR TREASON:
INSECTICIDE: PERSONS MAY BE INTO A FALLEN ANGEL TROPE CAUSED TO KILL A DIAMOND BABY (RICH HOME PARADOX)
PROLICIDE: HOME HARBOURING A YEASTED ANGEL (WRONG DISCUSSION)
BACILLICIDE: YOURSELF ONLY 'FOR PEOPLE TO BELIEVE YOU AS REYNOLDS TARGET ANGEL (REEVESINIAN PARADOX)'
VITICIDE: NO WORDS (BLEEDING ACID)
SUICIDE: PANGEA
ALIBI: PARKED CAR
ZOOPHYTE: SYNDROME (INCREDIBLES DEFECT)
SPHRAGISTICS: SIGNS ON TELEVISION INDICATING A FUTURE LED WORTH (NO WORTH FOUND IN JEWELLERY MONEY (SOMEBODY ELSE'S FUTURE BEING STOLEN FOR ADAM AND EVE IDIOT PLAN (YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAD SEX)
RADIOPHONICS: FREQUENCY WAVES AFFECTING META-GROUPS OF 15 (ATTRACTION NUMBER BY HATEBREAK (SOCIAL BASTARD PARALYSIS)
WONDERKID CAME THOUGHT: REASON (FEAR ATROPHY)
METABOLISM: CRYING FOR HELP
LESBIANISM: NO HOME CALLER (NEVER PICKING IT UP BECAUSE OF YOUR OWN CONTROVERSY THOUGHT AS A 'DEMI LOVATO' WANNABE (EW)
TRACTARIANISM: NO REASON TO FIND FEUDS TO A GODLY MAN NAMED 'EEVES' (WORLD CORRUPTION TO A DEAD MAN CAMPAIGN (EW, I MADE IT - ANTHEM (ONLY TO BE EATEN ALIVE 'ONCE BABIES ARE SILENCED')
KILLED BY: IN ASSOCIATION WITH
ARCHAISM: NO MAN CAN HAVE YOU
NEOLOGISM: NO BREATH (SEX)
GASCONISM: GLEE RELATIONSHIP PSYCHE BREAKS SKILLS (FAN FICTION DOES NOT HARBOUR BUT MADE)
HYPERBOLISM: FAT JOKES
SPOONERISM: NO FING TO HERG (NORTHERNERS PLAYING YOU ON TV (EMMERDALE)
SOLECISM: FANBASE EQUATED TO SEXUAL ANIMOSITY (EAT ME)
DEAD TO OF THE THOUGHT: TRY ME
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AGRIOLOGY
DYSTELEOLOGY
ELECTROLOGY
CARPOLOGY
KONIOLOGY
HAMARTIOLOGY
MEREOLOGY
NEURYPNOLOGY
NOOLOGY
OSTEOLOGY
OTOLOGY
PESTOLOGY
SINOLOGY
THEROLOGY
UFOLOGY
VIROLOGY
XYLOLOGY
ZYMOLOGY
WHISPER OF THE QUR'AN (ISLAMOPHOBIA): DEAD FANBASE
ANALYSIS
CATALYSIS
BIOLYSIS
CYTOLYSIS
DIALYSIS
FRONTOLYSIS
GLYCOLYSIS
KARYOLYSIS
NEUROLYSIS
ONCOLYSIS
PARALYSIS
MONOEND DESTRUCTION: TRUTH FOUND
DITTOLOGY (SUFFERING OF THE END)
RESSURECTION: PI TERMINATION (NEW LIFE)
BAROMETRY (ATMOSPHERIC PRESSURE)
CHRONOMETRY
CRANIOMETRY
DYNAMOMETRY
MICROSEISMOMETRY
NOTE TO FOUR SCORE:
HALITOSIS
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to anyone who has had any doubts about Aaron’s feelings for Rob vs. for Ben (not that I get how you could); here’s your ultimate proof. only a few days after Ben’s death and Aaron is sitting there talking about how the village hasn’t been the same since Rob was there. going through with a move, and smiling as he drives; he had hardly left the couch at that point after Rob. he got severely depressed for a while after that, to the point where it took him several weeks before he could allow himself to fully feel it, the full impact of that despair, and have that breakdown. he loved Ben but he was ‘just’ a boyfriend. Robert is everything to him - just like Aaron is to Rob. (and they should have played their fucking song.) but there’s also something about him seeing Adam again. Adam was one of his many traumatic losses, and I can just imagine that reunion. and tbh I think that after Rob, Adam is the one who is the best at comforting him. I think he’ll be ok. and I know he’ll be visiting Rob now that his family can’t try to stop him. :)
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this is my rebecca white meta lol
ok, for my own reference (bc no joke I’ve tried to find these more than once) (apparently I'll never let some things go), I've decided to compile links to all of the meta I wrote about rebecca white during that one period in 2017 where I was having regular breakdowns over trying to make her anything more than a plot device and failing.
I'm still missing posts, they’re buried deep in the archive, but even still there truly are.... thousands of words contained within these links. after spending some time revisiting them all... honestly, I stand by most of it. rebecca, specifically in 2017, was a travesty of a character. she existed to tell robert’s story and for no other reason. the writing for her was, across the board, atrocious and I hate to see that for female characters. legitimately, I hate it.
so many people supported her at the time and claimed that not supporting rebecca was just misogyny, but honestly... her entire character is so offensive to me still. and I'm sad because it didn’t have to be that way. and ah did I twist myself up in pretzels to try and find ways for her to not be that way.
(and I think they redeemed her in 2018 and then ruined it again but oh my god I'm not getting into it it’s fine)
SO. HERE’S A BUNCH OF META ABOUT REBECCA THAT I WROTE, MOSTLY BEMOANING HOW TERRIBLY WRITTEN SHE IS. this is, as best I can tell, in chronological order.
please enjoy this trip down memory lane, featuring my unending frustrations around trying to write meta for a plot that so heavily hinged on the most plot device-y character known to man, rebecca white:
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ons meta (this is not so much rebecca meta, but still a good place to start and possibly the kindest I'll be towards her in any of these posts)
follow up to the ons meta
the plot device abortion
rebecca isn’t a good friend for Robert (feat. get rob a friend 2k17)
rebecca doesn’t know what aaron knows
i do some rewatching of rebecca’s first scenes
I suddenly realise that rebecca white has zero agency
I talk about the episode where rebecca publicly reveals she’s still pregnant (feat. that one rebecca/aaron home farm scene yeah you know the one)
don’t write female characters who simply exist to prop up your male characters (an essay, a breakdown)
is rebecca supposed to be the purest of the whites? (feat. a fair amount of consent discussion cw)
I accidentally predict the 2017 break up
were robert and rebecca ever really friends at all?
predicting the future of rebecca white
a conclusion: rebecca is a female character designed entirely to prop up a male character this is the longest and probably most comprehensive post on my thoughts on rebecca in 2017. feat. this quote, which pretty much sums up everything I have to say on the matter and thus serves as the ultimate tl;dr for this post:
“robert is in many ways a villain in [rebecca’s] story and the story they want to tell is more robert being a villain in his own story. they’re not telling rebecca’s story. not at all.”
#Rebecca meta#Rebecca white#meta#emmerdale meta#long post#if I tag this enough then I'll never lose it again#NO ONE WANTS THIS POST TO EXIST#EXCEPT ME#:]
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I feel like they're gonna kill someone else off because as much as everyone wanted Paul gone,no one's gonna miss him so it's not tragic or sad
So who will it be?
Jimmy? I doubt it,he's the last remaining King (of the original brothers) and a long-standing well loved character. I feel like if they were going to kill him off then it'd be his own big sl. Also it would pretty much end the custody SL as Juliette would probably get Carl. This wouldn't be good as 1) they'd be taking away a young King and be again removing iconic families and 2) what would they do with Nicola? She'd grieve,lose Carl, grieve some more and then...?!! Her and Jimmy's realtio ship is kinda her main thing. If he died would she be able to manage the haulage company? I'm not too sure,which would then take away her other main component. So I'm ruling Jimmy out
Vinny? No. Why? 1) Would they really kill off both of Mandy's main family members? 2) If he dies it'll be Aaron and Liv's word about the abuse?? There's no way Mandy would believe them. If he lives however it'll be good conflict as Vinny probably won't want to say anything because Mandy is grieving,so he'd bottle it up for weeks before it would finally all come out. Great drama and angst. 3) He's technically a Dingle and he's just old enough to have more adult and less teen SL"s. Do I really like Vinny? No,but the show and the general public definitely do,I can see them having Vinny copes with his abuse sl, maybe they'll try make him a knock off Aaron who knows! Either way,he has some potential,I don't think it's him.
Which leaves everyone's favourite pointless ,personality less,plot device ,Liv!
Of course we all dislike for a multitude of reasons but from the producers perspective it also makes sense
1) Sad Aaron being sad. It's the shows biggest gimmick,has been for over a decade. Danny is fantastic at angst heartfelt stuff, they'd be stupid to waste that. Plus it'd give him more screen time which surely they want seen as Aaron is a public favourite.
Also, it'd be a way to introduce Ben again (dramatic sigh). Aaron's sad,he 'needs' Ben. I hate it as much as everyone else but given the show atm,it seems a route the producers would take. Why else would Ben show up?? He turns up having heard of Liv's death, see's Aaron's state decides to stick around and try help him,boom, romance! (What do we do to deserve this honestly)
2) What are they going to do with Liv after this sl? She'll comfort Vinny, they'll get back together and then??? She's an adult now, she's passed getting drunk with Gabby and terrorising pensioners. Everyone else has moved on,she still feels like a child. Gabby is up at home farm, rivalling with Kim Tate,she's had jobs, she's having a baby, she could potential be the next soap bitch. What has Liv done? She isn't in education,she doesn't have a job,she hasn't really had her own story line in 5 whole years! Everything she's been involved with has been as a sideline to the other characters. Robron, Jacob, Vinny. The things she could have had were dropped or not very good. Prison sl didn't really have much impact,no real aftermath. Alcoholism was just glossed over. Asexuality was better than the rest but still a bit lackluster. She's the shows (and maybe soaps??) first explicitly and out asexual character yet they don't explore it that much,a waste! Epilepsy is what, pending? Okay so she hasn't been diagnosed,then show us how she's feeling about that, show us her fear,her anger! Anything!
To me,she feels like a nothing character. There is nothing for her in Emmerdale. Roblivion (shudders) dead, Ryan's gone,they don't know if he's coming back so they can't just wait around. Her wanting a stable family unit made sense when she was 16 but she has the Dingles now?? It doesn't make much sense anymore to have that narrative,she's literally referred to as 'our Liv' so...
Besides even of Ryan does come back she will definitely be in her twenties, maybe thinking about living on her own, having a career or something. The whole kid sister robron doing the dad bit will be past it then. They will be in their thirties, being parents,not really pushing people through floorboards and nicking cars anymore. It's inevitable that they will become a bit less prominent as the younger characters (cough liv cough) take centre stage
But as I've said,she has nothing going for her. Iz is young, she's a great actor and has a flourishing music career (her cover of the winner takes it all is one of my favourites). From that interview she seemed a bit idk bored?? She clearly didn't give a shit about Ben and only mentioned Robron. If were her I'd be sick of being sidelined and only appearing to meddle in my brother's love life. I don't think Iz had much reason to stay,she deserves better.
Anywaysss that's my take, dragged on a bit but I'm passionate
Do I honestly think they'll kill her? Probably not cause Emmerdale hates us and the producers couldn't make a good sl if it slapped them in the face,but I can hope at least, and it's the most logical approach.
#Emmerdale#Emmerdale meta#is this meta idk#Emmerdale theories#liv flaherty#aaron dingle#jimmy king#vinny dingle#is it dingle? i have no clue#.
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It was written terribly, but perhaps the reason Aaron has taken a step back from the Seb situation is to encourage Ross to take a step back too? After all, Ross said he was there for the same reason Aaron was, and both Robert and Aaron have made a point about Ross being more difficult/unreasonable than Rebecca. It's possible that what he meant by "leaving it to Robert and Rebecca" is him trying to get Ross to butt out?
#seb white#emmerdale#robert sugden-dingle#aaron sugden-dingle#robron#rebecca white#ross barton#emmerdale meta
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I realized something today, my problem with Seb isn’t actually about Seb personally.
I have a problem with a soap in the year 2017/18 giving a same sex couple a baby through cheating. To make matters worse they seemingly brought in a female character only to get her pregnant and then for her to die/leave so the couple can get the baby. And they didn’t even pretend her existence in the show was for any other purpose (her personality changes, not interacting with anybody apart from the baby sl...).
This whole thing is just so homophobic and biphobic and sexist and misogynistic, not to mention the whole pro choice narrative they pushed, and I project all of this on this tiny baby.
If Seb stays I will be okay, I will love them as a family, but at the same time I will always see all these issues I just mentioned, it may become smaller in my head, but it will never fully go away. And all of this is the main reason why I don’t want Seb to stay.
If Seb leaves his existence would make all of these issues a bit less bad because then Rebecca wasn’t just brought in to give Robron a baby, but to challenge them as a couple or make Robert see that he can’t go on the way he is, or whatever the hell they’re trying to do.
Sorry this became a bit long, but realizing this helped me today, I don’t know why but it kind of took a weight off me, and maybe for somebody else reading this they may realize it’s similar for them and might help them, too.
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What’s so frustrating to me is that there are kernels of good storytelling in Emmerdale currently but they either don’t trust themselves to write it, trust their audience to wait a little for it to happen naturally, or care to actually make it make sense within the narrative and the characters they’ve created.
So Rebecca... it would be a lot easier to understand that she’s acting completely unlike herself if she, I don’t know, actually had a personality post ONS? Honestly, she came to the village as one person and over time she just changed to be whatever the narrative needed her to be. The problem with that is that she always feels out of character to me. As heartless as it might sound, this trend of Rebecca not caring for her son doesn’t feel as out of character as the show probably means it to be because to me her lack of character leading up to all this made it seem like she was having this baby out of spite for Robert and Chrissie. Of course, the show didn’t play that way, but like, they also didn’t really give Rebecca a voice post her demanding that she’s going to keep the baby because Robert wants her to terminate it. So in all honesty, this lack of care for Seb could just be her actual feelings manifesting because when you don’t want a baby 100% (*cough*Chas/Paddy*cough*), there’s probably going to be some resentment there.
Of course, this is just one interpretation, but it’s something that could have easily been fixed if the show actually just allowed Rebecca to be a person instead of a plot womb. Everything still could have happened, but there could have been some comments on how Rebecca wasn’t a vicitm in this ONS. Let her own that a bit; the show completely forgets that she chased both before and after the ONS so like... where did her personality go? I’m just going to need more than Vic saying that things are bad and she’s not acting like herself for me to care more about what’s happening to Rebecca.
Onto the Chas pregnancy thing... It’s so insulting that people have taken the stance to just “give it a go” because this will eventually be a baby? My thoughts are if you’re not 100% excited and sure of your decision to raise a child, then it has to be a no. All this talk of not wanting Chas to make a decision she’ll end up regretting. Not to be crass, but she could have a child after this even if she has an abortion now. The only decision she can’t undo is to actually have the child and decide she didn’t really want to raise it. On top of all that, Chas’s reasonsings for not wanting a baby stem from the fact that she messed Aaron up and doesn’t want to do that again. Why did we need this? She already had really good and valid reasons for not having a baby?? But those are not good enough because their selfish, apparently? It feels like we’ve been getting more of Paddy’s POV on why he wants a baby and not enough on Chas.
It’s also incredibly rude and insulting that ED seems to think that the only way you can really have a bond with a child is through blood.
Priya... I’m actually interested in where this situation is going. I can’t, in good faith, believe that ED is actually going to give us a child-abusing Priya because that’s really not something to mess around with. So I’m assuming that it’s not going to happen because I will be furious.
But Priya’s had a bit of a rough time and all this pressure was bound to come crashing down on her eventually--welcome to the wonderful world of having anxiety my friend. Ever since her husband left, Priya has been trying to keep it all together and then she started an affair with Pete behind Leyla’s back (I’m still not sure why this was the route they went cause it came out of nowhere). Her break-down has been a long time coming in a sense. It’d be nice to see her and Robert maintaining that friendship they built the other week because if anyone knows what it feels like to hit rock bottom, my boy Rob does.
Now the Laurel and Bob thing... I guess I get it? On one hand at least, but it feels incredibly out of character that Laurel would have slept with Bob to begin with and then is sneaking around Brenda’s back about it.
That’s the thing with Emmerdale: they rely on cheating plots constantly because that’s Interesting and Fun and Sexy and Drama...but there are other ways to get there? The reason that Robert and Aaron worked so well as an affair storyline was because it was completely unexpected and they have such chemistry together. It doesn’t hurt that it all came crashing down around them when it all came out.
Now, we have a BUNCH of cheating storylines (Moira and Cain while Cain was with Harriet, Leyla and David while David’s with Tracy, Laurel and Bob while Bob’s with Brenda). Those are just the ones from the past two months.
Cain’s worked for me because of the emotional weight between him and Moria and then how it all came out to Harriet and she was allowed to feel whatever she was feeling. David’s doesn’t work because he’s an asshole who’s hiding it from his wife and then had the fucking gall to be an asshole to her for her past--from before she even knew him--while pretending like he’s husband of the year. While Tracy’s storyline lately was really good and well-acted, it lost so much of the punch because the entire time I’m like, David’s a dick girl, get out!
Now...Bob and Laurel don’t really have the chemistry to pull off this affair storyline. But you know what would have worked a lot better: friends that are slowly developing feelings for each other. There’s no sex involved so there’s no actual cheating. It’s just the natural progression of some relationships that they have to work through. Bob’s worried that he just wants to try something new like a mid-life crisis or that he’s projecting onto Laurel. Laurel worried that she’s betraying Ashley and wondering if she’s latching onto Bob because he’s been there for her through so much. Are they really falling in love or is it something else? That could have gone on a bit and they would eventually have to come to some sort of decision.
In summary, sometimes drama doesn’t have to come from cheating. It can come from other sources. Also... give characters personalities and you’ll be surprised how the story happens around them and to them. (It’s seriously like they’re trying to shove the circle block through the triangle hole and that just doesn’t work)
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I have no problems with the trope of staying in a new relationship while still being in love with your ex, it adds to the drama and tension and makes you root for the original couple to get back together- it keeps you hooked, which is largely what soaps are designed to do.
Robron and Coira have both successfully used the trope with Alex and Harriet, however now they're using it with Paddy/Rhona and Chas. That could work... except the audience don't care enough about Paddy and Rhona so it simply falls flat. It worked for Robron and Coira because they're super couples, but Paddy/Rhona just...isn't, and that's my problem with this storyline.
#emmerdale meta#rhia talks#i started writing this a week ago and forgot about it so forgive me for it now being irrelevant
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#if anyone were to write a meta/tell me their thoughts on that last line i wouldn't hate it#ededit#emmerdale#robron#robert sugden#aaron dingle#*#*rs#*ad#*robron#jan 2016#jan 22 2016#abuse sl#redemption
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The saddest thing about Harriet’s scenes recently is how casual she’s being in her self-hate.
She’s saying things like “I’m a lost cause” and “I’m a waste of space” like they’re obvious facts. She talks about how worthless she is like she’s talking about the weather.
She’s just - she’s coming at things with this attitude that of course she’s worthless, of course she doesn’t deserve to be a vicar anymore, why would anyone think otherwise. Her thinking is so distorted and she doesn’t even realise it.
I’m not usually one to throw around phrases like “lacking insight”, but Harriet actually does lack insight about how ill she is and that makes me very sad. She just seems to see the pain she’s in as some kind of punishment she deserves. It’s heartbreaking.
#Emmerdale#Harriet Finch#my meta#idk this is moreso a random observation than meta#but it's kind of character analysis so i guess it counts
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those of y’all saying things about Vanity such as “I can’t see a way back for them anymore” “they’ve destroyed any hope I had about them at this point :/” etc. need to seriously calm down. it’s a soap. did you expect them to start dating within the first few weeks of Ness coming back? whenever they have a storyline that they know people are tuning in for, they aren’t going to let that story play over quicker than it has to. we also know that adults in soaps act like teenagers and say things with a lot of emotion and emphasis only to go back on it the next day. what people say usually doesn’t mean much, no matter how much they seem to mean it in the moment. you have to focus on their behaviour and the more subtle stuff. it has been clear the whole time that Charity doesn’t feel the way about Mack that she does about Vanessa. but currently she’s backpedaling because she thinks she can’t have Ness, and so she regrets messing things up with her Ness substitute. if Ness had been like “let’s get a room ;)” Charity would have already forgotten about Mack (as she has already done, because of Ness, several times.) and Ness clearly still has feelings for Charity, but she also got hurt, and won’t want to give in to those feelings without a fight. she wants to be over Charity and she’s going to do her best to convince herself that she is. dating someone else is part of it, and it’s the same thing that Charity is doing with Mack. if she focuses on being a little sad about Mack leaving perhaps she doesn’t have to think about how she literally fucked up the relationship with the love of her life by being a complete mess of a person. of course there’s a way back. a hundred couples on Ed has been in similar or worse situations and gotten back together. sooner or later Charity isn’t going to be able to keep pretending she wants Mack over Ness, and Ness’ resolve about fighting her feelings for Charity is going to break down over time. they’re going to build their friendship back up first most likely, and it will go from there. there’s absolutely a way back and it’s not even necessarily that long. just chill.
#vanity#vanessa woodfield#charity dingle#charity x vanessa#emmerdale#text post#emmerdale meta#vanity meta
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You: I still can‘t see Buck as being written as bi and ending up with a guy.
Me: *Can easily compare him to Gideon ‘Zero’ Kinkade, Michael Guerin (Alex will definitely be changing his name to Alex Guerin Truman* if we don’t discover Michael’s Antarian surname beforehand), and Robert Sugden-Dingle with out even comparing Abby or Ali to Chrissie* (that’s, count them, 1, 2, 3 canon male bisexual characters Buck already has a lot in common with who either would have, will🤞🏽, or did end up with husbands who are the loves of their lives, I always come with receipts, check the links for the context)
You: But Eddie’s not bi or pan. Think about Shannon.
Me: Okay, then, let’s talk, and think, about Chrissie and Shannon. Take Chrissie, combine her with Rebecca, forget about all of their scheming (and Robert’s), completely ignore the fact that Lachlan is a fucking psychopath/every thing about Lachlan except that he exists as part of Robert’s prior attempt to dismiss his actual sexuality of bisexuality and his attraction to Aaron, also forget that Seb started out as an ill-thought-of plot device (to say the very least), morph those two extremely different, white with a capital W, White boys Robert was/is a father to in to one kid, make the kid even more perfect and precious than Seb already is, and tell me that you’re not left with the British, and completely white and able-bodied, Shannon and Christopher.
You: But--
Me: EDDIE LITERALLY CHECKED OUT BUCK’S ASS ON CAMERA WITH SUCH BLATANCY THAT CHIMNEY OBVIOUSLY NOTICED AND IT👏🏽 WAS👏🏽 NOT👏🏽 CUT👏🏽 FROM👏🏽 THE👏🏽 SCENE👏🏽!!! OPEN YOUR EYES! THAT INTENTIONALLY HAPPENED!
{I was going to just do a cropped version of just Eddie, Buck, and Chimney, but, when I went to make it, I couldn’t help but think that Hen looks like she is thinking that she doesn’t need to see what’s going on to know, and she does know, and that you can even kind of see the knowing smile that we’ve come to be so familiar with during ‘Buddie’ moments on Bobby’s face, even from this back/side stance of his head [don’t make me do yet an other separate post just on that, Bobby Nash/Peter Krause is the actual, and literal (in Bobby’s case), Captain of this ship, I will do it]. To quote @nyx-ic in response to me saying “We basically already know that the rest of the station has a bet on them,” “Every time I see that head!canon I cackle because it’s just fact now. The only debate is whether it’s Hen or Bobby who wins it,” and I’ll add that Chimney doesn’t care about the money. He just wants his future brother-in-law to be happy with their mutual co-worker and, as he’s betting, his future brother-in-law’s future husband. ... Also, Buck doesn’t need to be moving like this while standing in one place, resulting in the foregone conclusion of his ass jiggling, even he seems to know what’s happening behind him. Look at that face!}
Now, in all seriousness, let’s move on to the cropped version:
LOOK!!! LOOK AT IT! ... That is definitely eyes on ass!, there is NO EXPLANATION for the expression that rolls down Chimney’s face other than that of a friend seeing some one doing some thing that they know would embarrass the person, but they, themselves, think that it’s cute, and don’t want them catching on that they saw the thing, and, in the middle, is a man who is certain that his ass is being checked out, and IS HAPPY ABOUT IT!!!!! THIS IS THE ENTIRE MERE 24 FRAMES* (updated from a previous version) (1 SECOND!) FROM THIS CAMERA ANGLE (when they could have just stayed on Bobby’s/Peter’s full-body grin!)!!! WHY DID IT MAKE IT TO AIR IF NOT TO SERVE A NECESSARY PURPOSE?!!!!!!!!!!
“You don’t find it, son, you make it” - Thomas, “Buck, Actually”. What are they MAKING here if not Buddie?!
Buddie shippers aren’t reaching. We’re sitting back and pointing.
(I’ve been laughing to myself since Wednesday afternoon in waiting to be able to post this)
... I’ll just be over here joyfully awaiting the ironic, yet all-too-fitting, name change of Evan ‘Buck’ Diaz with my clown wig on.
#buddie#zude#malex#robron#buddie meta#9-1-1#buddiepher#hit the floor#htf#roswell new mexico#emmerdale#evan 'buck' buckley#evan buckley#edmundo 'eddie' diaz#eddie diaz#abby clark#ali martin#shannon diaz#christopher diaz#howie 'chimney' han#chimney han#howie han#thomas#zero#gideon#jude kinkade#michael guerin#alex manes#robert sugden-dingle#aaron sugden-dingle
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To ring, or not to ring? That is the question...
Hello Vanity fam. I have seen a bit of renewed discussion recently both on here and on Twitter about fandom’s desire for Vanessa to give Charity an engagement ring. And look, I get why that is appealing to people: we haven’t seen many grand gestures from Vanessa, and the idea of her articulating exactly why she loves Charity and wants to spend the rest of her life with her is very attractive. If it happens, I won’t be mad or anything. However, for me, it’s not necessary, and I wanted to put forth a few reasons why I think Vanessa not giving Charity a ring is actually a very powerful thing.
1. Charity has received fancy rings before, from men who treated her like garbage in the end. And for me, the foundational principal of Vanity is: Vanessa is different, in every possible way you could imagine. I don’t know if the writers actually intended for Vanessa’s lack of ring/proposal for Charity to further symbolize how fundamentally different she is from all of Charity’s past lovers, but for me, it does. That Vanessa is giving only herself to Charity—and not a fancy, expensive object—to demonstrate her commitment, is beautiful and romantic. Especially when Charity already knows well what Vanessa’s steadfast partnership looks like; how valuable it is. The show has insinuated that the reason for the ring omission could be that Charity has done this several times before, and therefore the wedding logistics/rings/etc. aren’t so much the point for her now, but I think it more generally speaks volumes about the fact that what Vanessa gives Charity is utterly unique, and cannot be encompassed by an object. Which leads me to reason #2…
2. Vanessa is the first person to understand Charity’s love language, and it isn’t gifts, and it isn’t even really words. It has taken a long time for Charity to get to a place where she recognizes what she actually needs from a romantic partner: actions. In particular, being steady, calm, dependable, patient, and staying when Charity does her Charity!Things that always drive people away. Of course, I think Charity has brought so many unique things to Vanessa’s life: fun, a real family, a deep understanding of herself sexually, and so much joy, just to name a few, and hearing Vanessa articulate some or all of those things would be like fanfic come to life. BUT, I think it’s just as powerful, if not more so, for Vanessa to demonstrate her love for Charity by continuing to show up for her. Because no one else ever has.
2(a). One caveat to 2: Charity’s seeming disbelief that Vanessa actually loves her—as evidenced during the break up reunion—did give me pause about whether Vanessa needs to at least say, “I love you,” more often. Ultimately, however, I think Charity asked, “You love me?” as they were about to reunite because she assumed that Vanessa stopped loving her due to her lies and not because Vanessa did not say it enough while they were together. Moreover, I’m not sure that anything Vanessa does or doesn’t say can single-handedly make Charity feel sufficiently loved—at bottom, Charity doesn’t think she’s lovable because so many people have told her she isn’t, and it’s going to take more than a few years (if ever, honestly) for Vanessa to permanently undo that damage. I think her staying is much more powerful in that regard than any specific words.
3. On a personal note, I am married, but I don’t have an engagement ring. Neither does my wife. Our wedding bands have in-laid diamonds, which we love! Spending money on engagement rings was not a priority for us, but it is for many, which is great. One of the liberating things about gay weddings is that you are free from the constraints of social conventions, because none exist. Two engagement rings is it’s own form of defying convention, which is probably why it is attractive to many people. (including this fandom?) I would have no problem if Vanity wanted to have two rings. But the point is, I like (and feel represented by) Vanity’s choices to do whatever feels right to them. No pressure, no expectations. This wedding, and everything surrounding it, is just for them. It feels very queer to me.
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I know I’m probably slow in noticing this and please don’t take this the wrong way, I think dna is not at all necessary for any family relations and bonds, this is just a soapy analysis of something.
When Robert said that Jack was a grandfather again, I wonder, Jack doesn’t actually have any bological grandchildren (please correct me if I’m wrong, I’ve only started watching 3 years ago) with Andy not being his biological son, so why should this kid now actually be genetically connected to him?
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i cannot stop thinking about why this storyline for Robron is bothering me so much that I can’t seem to let go of it. As an aspiring writing, I think I’ve finally hit on it. Also... the spoilers are making me sad because seriously what are they doing with Robert’s character. I hate that he’s scheming at Home Farm again, but at least tell us why. Give us something that’s concrete that’s not just us trying to pull reasons and excuses out of nowhere because you all can’t be bothered to actually think things through. It’s late and I can’t sleep so I word-vomited this piece. It might not be for everyone, but I feel a bit better after it.
There’s something that’s been frustrating me about this Robert/Aaron and Rebecca storyline for months now. No, it’s not the terrible writing, strange and drastic personality changes, nor the glossed over sexual assault. Well, it is, but there’s more to it than that.
At the base level of things, Robert’s actions are in character. The idea that he would lash out at Aaron when he’s hurt or Aaron’s hurt him in such a way makes sense. The fact that he would do something that would hurt Aaron or punish Aaron would make it easier for Robert to cope. It’s also a way of self-destructive behavior that we’ve seen from Robert before when things go south for him. Robert knows Aaron better than anyone and, perhaps more importantly to this point, he knows what will hurt Aaron the most. Not only did Robert sleep with someone, he slept with Rebecca, the one person that Aaron was tying himself into knots over for the past few months/year. Robert knew exactly how much it would hurt Aaron which is why he did.
That all makes sense, all things considered. However, the writers completely disregarded the context around this entire situation. And contrary to what they seem to think, context matters.
The first part of the context that the writers completely ignored was the set-up to the cheating. Specifically speaking, I’m talking about the argument that Robert and Aaron had over Aaron taking drugs which led to Robert and the ONS. As I stated above, Robert lashing out in this way at Aaron does make some sense, but the argument they had didn’t feel like enough of a catalyst for it.
Take into perspective Aaron punching Kasim which is what landed him in prison in the first place. That was not the proper way to handle that situation at all, but his actions are understandable and, to some, even justifiable. (I’m mostly speaking about the show here because there seems to be this view in the show/village that Aaron can’t really do anything wrong which is not the point of this post.) What I am trying to point out is that the argument he and Robert had that led to Aaron assaulting Kasim was one of many similar arguments. The writers spent months showing how jealous and insecure Aaron was around Rebecca and yet him and Robert really only talked around it and Aaron didn’t seem to really believe in Robert at times either. The point is, they set us up to understand that this was different and bigger—hell, it even led to Robert taking off his ring. The context around adds to tension and, while I don’t agree with his actions or condone them, I can understand where Aaron was coming from.
The prison fight didn’t have the same implications, at least not that I saw. I know what they wanted us to see, but that’s not the same thing as actually showing us. It’s more frustrating because I know that they could have done it. They could have shown us more of Robert struggling so when he goes to see Aaron he really is at wit’s end. They showed us a glimpse of it in one episode where it showed Robert was sleeping on the sofa. While that was great, it wasn’t enough. Just like the entire argument wasn’t enough, at least not to me. (Which I know sounds critical because who am I to determine how big the argument was to them. But this is a show and it’s the writers’ jobs to make these things come across.)
As much as I hated the prison storyline because it absolutely felt like a “convenient” way to get Aaron out of the way so Robert could impregnate Rebecca (though there were other ways to make that happen. Most notably right after the argument when Robert returned his ring, but that is a post for another time), they needed to expand it a bit more. Even if they only expanded the argument they had, that would have worked. We’ve all seen those couples who are arguing over who left the cap off the toothpaste and then suddenly it’s about what he said to her on their second date. It could have easily spiraled away from Aaron taking drugs to Aaron lying to Robert, which is something Aaron’s gotten upset with Robert over many times. I mean, that would have been a perfect way to start such an argument because it would have so much tension since they couldn’t really raise their voices. Robert could be incredibly hurt that Aaron hadn’t told him anything that was going on with him. Aaron would rightfully tell him that there’s nothing Robert can do and there’s no point in worrying him more. They could go back and forth about Robert saying that they’re a family and he’s supposed to be Aaron’s husband, someone Aaron’s supposed to rely on for support even if that support is just to listen on the phone. Then they could loop around to Aaron saying, again, that this is something he has to deal with himself. Or if they were feeling particularly cruel, have Aaron tell Robert that they’re not even legally married. It would eventually return to Robert lying about spending time with Rebeca which would be the thing that plants into Robert’s mind. All right, you think I’m cheating on you, then fine. I’ll show you.
It would still suck entirely, don’t get me wrong, but at least there would have been something that we could hold onto. Right now, it just feels like there’s a deleted scene from the prison argument that would prove this point. It just didn’t hold enough weight to warrant such a reaction from Robert. The one thing I will say in their defense is that clearly both Aaron and Robert felt like the argument was bigger than we saw, with how Robert reacted and how worried Aaron had been during their time apart after it.
The other, incredibly important context is that they had only been married for three weeks or so at the time. Three weeks. I understand Robert is not perfect, but I have an incredibly hard time believing that he would do this three weeks after getting married while Aaron is in prison after spending over a year proving himself to Aaron (and the rest of us). Again, the framework of having Robert cheat because he was mad at Aaron instead of having him want Rebecca or Aaron not being enough is the only way that could have worked, but the timing just stretches the believability factor too much.
Again, this could have been “solved” with having Aaron be in prison much longer so it’s not three weeks after they get married, the argument is much bigger, or hell have it be that all they tend to do is argue when they have their visits as shitty as they would have been to watch.
The final part of the problem of context is the context surrounding the one night stand as well as the reactions to it. Obviously what we saw take place that night between Robert and Rebecca was sexual assault. I understand that the writers and the show don’t want to admit it because that clearly wasn’t what they intended, but that’s what we saw. It’s incredibly insulting to tell someone that what they witnessed wasn’t sexual assault and honestly, that feels a lot like victim blaming to me.
Both Rebecca and Robert acknowledged the state Robert was in. Rebecca even acknowledged it more than Robert did, yet still slept with him anyway. Even knowing full well his ability to consent was skewed. The question should be asked, if Robert had asked Rebecca to give him his keys so he could go for a drive, would she have done it? If they’re too drunk to drive, they are too drunk to consent.
While that’s a larger issue involving consent and sexual assault, there’s a problem with reactions after the fact. Robert is treated horrendously by his sister and the Whites, even though we all saw that Rebecca took advantage of him. It’s incredibly hard to not feel sympathetic towards Robert in this situation because we saw what happened that night. However, the show wants us to feel sympathy for Rebecca, and only Rebecca. We’re not really even given a lot of time on how Aaron feels about it and we’re given nothing on Robert expect that he takes full responsibility which is admirable but again, he was assaulted so it is incredibly bitter for me to watch it. Intent doesn’t equal action in this case. Yes, he intended to cheat, but the situation surrounding it make him the victim.
This doesn’t even cover the assassination of Victoria’s character, the complete 180 on Rebecca, and the half-assed response to the cheating. But again, that was clearly done as a way to try and get the audience on Rebecca’s side because apparently, she’s the person they were pinning all their hopes on. When you bring in a character specifically to split up a popular couple with a pregnancy, you’re already creating a Herculean task for yourself. Honestly, at this point, it feels like this is what they had planned from the beginning of Rebecca’s introduction which is just sad on behalf of all three of them.
As much as I hate this storyline, I can understand that the bare bones of it do make sense. But the execution (writing) had been incredibly poor and underdeveloped. There was a way to do this crappy storyline that makes narrative sense and shows that you actually care about these characters and keeping them recognizable and they have failed to do so.
#emmerdale#emmerdale meta#robron#robert sugden#anti ons#hopefully i can sleep now#my emmerdale thoughts#my meta
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