#Emmerdale theories

[ottoline-otter]

i can't stop fixating on the theory that robert is secretly out of prison already and looking after seb somewhere. i mean, it's not implausible that he made up the aunt in bristol and somehow threatened ross into lying about it for him, because he's got too many Issues and doesn't feel ready to face aaron or vic yet...

[josephgraham]

call me a bitter robert stan or wever but i am STILL not buying john's act... that is a wolf in sheep's clothing. 'i was in the army i'm used to dead bodies' girl you have serial killer vibes.

[anewbrainjughead]

the concept that jack sugden had a secret illegitimate child is so funnyyyy. imagine being that son like not only was your dad a deadbeat but after he Abandoned You he went and adopted a random troubled kid who, even after MANSLAUGHTERING your dad's WIFE, was his Favourite child and he never gave up on him even once.

[renamusing]

Wait

When is the ssw for emmerdale. I

know Ian used to give out spoilers like crazy noe he is back do we know the what the theme is about.

Danny coming back after the team was so done with them during the covid era makes ZERO sense but he also has a kid and I can't even blame him for wanting an stable job. Even if is this. He has not control over any of this after all.

But the fucking use of "a prodigal son" over that guy makes me so mad.

The next thing is that every single Dingle will adore him and have xmas eith him as if Robert is not the reason Aaron is still alive.

I hate it so much. Is like the open the wounds that we all have and people are more than ever asking about why ROBERT is not back instead of this.

It does feel like John is reboot-Robert minus everything special Ryan added to the character plus the great writing he got back then (thanks Maxine).

As for this year's super soap week, I don't think anything has been announced yet. The only thing that is known so far is that a major portion of the cast has filmed scenes concerning a big barn fire a few weeks ago (apparently John saves Moira and Ruby's lives, i dont remember more than that, only that Charity, Cain and Chas will be there too, which fits in with what you said about John being welcomed by the Dingles later on lol).

The thing is, I'm not sure whether the filming dates of the barn fire will match with ssw or if the barn fire will be a prelude to whatever happens then? It was also announced that Nate's actor will leave the show, so some people suspect he will die in those ssw eps, and there's also talk of something big happening with belle&tom, though according to the latest interview with one of the producers, their coercive control story will run until the end of the year.

I'm still looking forward to whatever comes, mainly bc John's actor said there were many twists and turns to come and every news piece leading up to his arrival mentioned a return of the Sugdens, so I believe John's appearance is only the start. Maybe Diane will return, maybe some Sugden-adjacent characters like the Merricks, or even Kathy Glover like some rumours suggested.

I've read a few theories recently about how John isn't actually Jack's son but rather the son of Jack's brother Joe, since Joe was romantically linked to John's alleged mother Barbara and also Karen Moore (who was also Jack's girlfriend for a time) which might explain the Aiden Moore dogtags.

Tbh, if John's character wasn't so dull and his romance with Aaron so contrived, I think we would all be having a wonderful time right now. Unfortunately, we gotta work with what we have. Plus the absence of hermit Hawley 😔🙄

[fuckyeahmackenzieboyd]

Ok I seem to be on somewhat of a roll with guessing what's going to happen in ED lately (not that it's in any way predictable, of course..) This one's a little more random, though..

Obviously Kerry's coming back.. (Yay... :-\) and obviously she's going to confront Mack over the whole Chloe saga.... I bet she'll hit him, (possibly while in the pub) he'll fall, burst open his stitches and then get rushed back into hospital. Then Moira can give Kerry a Glasgow Kiss, tell her to stay the hell away from Mackenzie, Kerry can screech a bit after being threatened with the police, Amy will then screech a bit, Mack won't wanna press charges cause he'll feel he deserved it and then it'll all be forgotten about and never mentioned again.

[actual-exhusbands]

I think I'd like a mix of all options:

Aaron starts a relationship with someone before Robert returns. Both Aaron and his bf are happy together. After a few months Robert is released and moves into Vic's. Robert has developed agoraphobia so stays in the house all the time. Vic is nervous to update Aaron so keeps Robert a secret. Eventually, Aaron needs to nip into Vic's home for something only to discover his ex-husband. Whilst stunned, Aaron walks straight back out saying nothing. He marches back to his flat and lets his silence turn to anger and he stews before confronting Victoria. Hours later, his new boyfriend pops by for a visit but before Aaron could invite him in he spots Vic over his bf's shoulder walking home from work. He shoves his way out of his porch and makes a beeline for Vic. He starts yelling after her making all sorts of claims out of his fury. Robert, from the safety of Vic's cottage peeks out from a curtain to see what all the noise is. He sees Aaron shouting abuse and, for the first time since returning to the village, steps out into the main street for all to see.

Aaron turns his aggression towards Robert. Aaron starts to accuse Robert of being a liar and a cold blooded murderer thinking his words will cut Robert deep like Robert's desertion did to him 5 years ago. Robert becomes aware of the villagers who are watching from the other side of the street. Terrified to attempt to defend himself. He spots Wendy and is suddenly filled with utmost guilt. Unfortunately, Roberts silence only heightens Aaron's rage. Before he could say anything, Aaron charges at Robert and tackles him to the ground. Aaron is now pinning Robert down whilst screaming all his emotions out; tears streaming down his face. A large audience has now formed The Dingles all exchange glances and looks of concern towards each other. Moments later, Aaron's boyfriend tries to break them apart with the help from Vic but to no avail. Chas and Moira shoot a sharp look towards Cain and eye him to go help break it up, too. Against his own judgement, Cain grabs Aaron by the scruff of the neck and drags him back to his flat. Paddy and Chas chase the rest of the crowd away as Vic helps Robert to his feet and chaperones him back into her cottage.

Weeks go by and Aaron refuses to make eye contact with Robert. He never once acknowledges Robert's presence. He doesn't want Robert to think he still cares. During this period he emphasises all romantic gestures with his boyfriend if Robert is in eyesight. However, Robert fails to take much notice as he's too concerned over the residents thoughts in regards to him living back in the village. The weeks turn to months and Robert's anxiety only grows as the days go by. Vic tries to help her brother by encouraging him out for a drink in the woolpack. Reluctantly, Robert agrees to go with her. They perch themselves by the bar closest to the door (so Robert can make a quick getaway), however, there is a stag do in full swing by the time they arrive and Aaron is a guest of the party as his boyfriend is the best man. Robert swivels around so quickly he nearly gives himself whiplash but Vic clutches on to his forearm preventing him from making an escape. Aaron's face turns to thunder as he enforced his attention away from Vic and Robert. His boyfriend is having too much fun to even notice the sudden change in Aaron's demeanor. Robert being fully aware of his ex husband being merely inches from him set his nerves off. Victoria made failed attempts to ease him by saying "it can't get any worse than this". Of course it then did get much worse.

At that exact moment Wendy and Bob walked into The Woolpack for a drink. It didn't take long for Wendy to loudly announce passive aggressive comments directed towards Robert to the whole pub. She stretched as far as to link Heath's death with her own son's death. Victoria was stuck in-between a rock and a hard place. She loves her brother but doesn't want to push Harry's grandmother away. Obviously all shots of mediation were ignored by Wendy and Bob and most of the new residents sided with them because of all the horror stories that were spread around about Robert. All of the chaos was increasing Robert's anxiety and he became more uncomfortable by the second. His nerves were shot. He couldn't concentrate on anything that Victoria was saying. The only thing that seemed to stabilise his mental stat was the sight of Aaron. Of course by this point every one in the room was staring at Robert, including Aaron. They locked eyes at each other for only a moment before Aaron dragged his eyes away to the beer mat on the table. That moment created peace in Robert's mind. The crash. Charity has dropped a glass but that sudden sound pushed Robert back over the edge. He darted for the door and escaped into the darkness. Victoria now found the courage to defend her brother against Wendy and the rest of the pub and shamed the stag do members. Pointing directly at each person to force guilt upon them. One person was missing from the party though. Aaron.

Amidst the pandemonium in The Woolpack, no one had noticed Aaron sneaking out the back of the pub to chase after Robert. Against all better judgement, he wanted to check on Robert. That shared glance sparked something in him. He just knew something wasn't right with Robert. After all, Robert never shied away from confrontation. He thrives in it. The opportunity to outsmart someone gave him a buzz. The Robert he knew would stand his ground and argue his case across until he won. The Robert in the pub wasn't his Robert.

Aaron knocked at Vic's home but there was no answer. There were no signs of life at all. He next ran down by the B&B to see if Robert was seeking refuge with Eric but there was no luck. He next searches the garage but stumbles upon Mac instead locking up for the night. Mac is about to ask Aaron how he's holding up but before he could get the question out Aaron runs off in the direction of Vanessa's. She was the only other person in the village to stand by Robert's return. He was hoping she would be hiding him from the entourage in the pub but, again, with no luck. Aaron is starting to get desperate. His concern quickly turned to uneasiness. He was starting to properly worry about Robert. He was rattling his brain for places he might be. His next bet was the cemetery. Aaron hated visiting there. Ghosts from his past were all buried there. All the ghosts he cared about that is. He sprinted down towards the church and jumped over the short wall. Scanned every corner with no Robert in sight. His eyes did fall onto one gravestone. Liv's. Suddenly, one memory of all three of them flooded his mind. That gave him an idea.

He scampered his way out of the cemetery and down the road until he got to the back of The mill. He followed a winding path that led to an opening of woodland. As he neared the opening he saw a shadow. An outline of someone. His speed slowed as he approached with caution. The closer he got the clearer the silhouette became. It was Robert. He was leaning on the handrail of the footbridge. The same footbridge Robert had embraced him on many a time in the past. The same footbridge the two would throw stones from with Seb. Robert looked deflated. There was no energy in him whatsoever. He looked like a bare copy of himself. This vulnerability tore down what was left of the little wall Aaron had built for himself to keep Robert out. Despite all the heartbreak and misery he had endured at the hands of Roberts actions here he was again. Willing to fall back into old habits but how could he stop himself?

Robert was blindly staring at his reflection in the stream. He failed to hear the approaching footsteps of Aaron. Gently, Aaron crossed his forearms and rested them on the same handrail inches next to Robert. He slowly peered over the edge and nestled his chin into his arms. Aaron gazed into Robert's eyes in the stream. Robert slowly scanned over to Aaron's reflection. Feeling that serenity brush over him once again at the mere glimpse of Aaron. Robert caught himself off guard by how hastily he confessed his anxiety about being back in the village. How he was sorry for how he ended their marriage. How he hated that he missed Liv's funeral. How he hates how quickly he threw his life away for one bad decision.

Robert sobs harder and harder for every admittance of all of his regrets and surrenders himself to his grief. Without any hesitation he lets slip the trauma he suffered whilst in prison. Knowing how hard life was for him when he was jailed away, Aaron throws one arm over Roberts shoulders and pulls him in closer. For the first time, Robert welcomes the physical embrace. They both relaxed into one another. They both clearly needed it. They both remain on the bridge quietly enjoying the stream shimmer in the moonlight.

After a while, Aaron and Robert break apart and gaze into each other's eyes. Robert opens his mouth to speak before Aaron interrupts him. "I told you I'd wait". Aaron spoke those words as though they were the magic key to freeing Robert. Relief fell upon Robert as though the heaviest weight had been lifted. He could breathe for the first time again. "Yeah?" Robert sighed with a slight smile stretching the corner of his mouth as his eyes glisten with hope. Aaron's face softens as he mimics Robert's expression. Without any hesitation or consideration Aaron leans in and kisses Robert. Hearts start to flutter but Robert jolts back pulling away from the kiss. They both stare towards each other before Robert returns his focus to the stream. Reality kicks in for him. "Don't!" Roberts whispers. A tear falling down his cheek. Robert doesn't feel worthy of Aaron's attention. He believes Aaron is better off without him. Everyone is better off without him. Robert turns his back to Aaron but before Robert can walk off Aaron grabs his arm "You can't keep walking out on me like that, Robert". Those very words killed the fluttering instantly. There was a sinking feeling like guilt was an anchor tied to his heart pulling it down. Aaron continued, "I know how hard it must've been in there but I would've stuck by you regardless. Helped you through it. I was willing to wait the whole 14 years because you were worth it. You are worth it." Aaron bit his lip as he realised what he'd just admitted out loud. The feelings he had been trying to compress. Robert, confused by Aaron's confession, stood teary eyed looking back at the man he so adored and yearned for feeling defeated. "But I'm not. I mean, I can't even step out the front door without fear of having a panic attack." Aaron remained baffled by this statement. How can Robert believe that? After everything. Aaron reaches out for Roberts arm and tilts his head ever so slightly that it draws Robert's stare back onto him. "You are to me". The words echoing those Robert once used for him. Robert also remembered the relevance of those specic words. Robert instinctively glanced down at Aaron's lips and back to his eyes. That was enough for Aaron to lean for a second kiss.

This time Robert kisses back and suddenly it's like they haven't been apart for the past 5 years. They fell back into their own natural rhythm with their bodies matching the other as they smoothly swayed from side to side. Aaron's hands travel to Robert's back holding him close as Roberts holds Aaron's face in his. Reluctantly, they pull away from each other only to rest their foreheads against one another. Aaron pulls his hands away from Roberts waist and traces his physique as they glide upwards his sides and across his chest. He lightly strokes down Roberts arms as he finds his hands, which are still cupping either side of Aaron's face, to take in his. They entwine their fingers as they relax their arms down by their sides. Foreheads still resting against one another fearing to break apart. Both wish to stay in this moment forever.

Thus, starting their second affair-era as Aaron will inevitably listen to his family who think getting back with Robert is a bad idea so will be guilt tripped into staying with this new boyfriend but will continue to rather seek out Robert for any true romantic connections.

Thank you. I am Eve and this has been my TED Talk.

Another poll, this time from Aaron's perspective!

I want to know how everyone feels! And please, there is no need to comment on whether Aaron would ever cheat or not, if you don't think that or want it, just choose another option 🙂 This is just for fun!

Reblog for wider spread if you fancy...

[actual-exhusbands]

You know what? Fair play to Hollyoaks fans because I'm pretty sure they have better morals than us Emmerdale fans judging by their reactions to this whole conversion therapy storyline.

Had the Emmerdale writers tried to do to Robert and Aaron like what Hollyoaks writers have done to John-paul and Carter then we'd have been delusional and come up with the wildest theories to convince ourselves that Robron wasn't over. The McShep (I think that's their ship name) fans seem to have just accepted that their storyline has ended. Well done to them!

[dannymillerfansite]

Emmerdale 07.11.24 Part 2

Aaron and Mackenzie are now at the fight, surprised to see Dawn there, she threatens to give them their ticking off for deceiving her at another time as the fight is underway, much to Mackenzie's relief.

John arrives at the fight saying he's with Aaron & Mackenzie but Aaron denies this, happy to let John be thrown out by the bouncers! He's clearly still upset with John big time. Mackenzie though intervenes & he's let in. John says the police are on their way.

As John says the police are on their way, Aaron doesn't believe him at first dismissing John as John says he saw someone call them on road, Jade reacts quickly bringing things to a abrupt halt clearing every one out wanting the money & laptop as priority but leave the rest of the stuff behind.

John says Billy should get himself checked out and gives his theory they tracked the location of the fight from the live feed from the laptop when speaking to Dawn as everyone else is fleeing the scene they can hear police sirens as they come closer.

[swarlatrash]

If I'm wrong, I will be deleting this 😂

Who's grave do you think Cain is at? I saw another user mention they can see the letters DAU possibly for daughter or granddaughter laid out, so i think it could be sarah?

Just interested to know who you think it is

Oh I didn't see that. It might be Sarah... if they suddenly remember she's ill. It wont be Moira because Natalie said they weren't killing her off. (and I think Caleb flatlining is a fake out)

I suppose you can get the AU from the flowers like this... but i don't know about the D.

I hope the body that gets chucked off the bridge is Anthony though.

Also Joe and Dawn together like that in the pub? They're DEFINITELY having an affair next year.

[saricess]

ok so i didn’t expect ethan to die in tonight’s episode but i love how guilty ruby looked and i absolutely can’t wait for her to be found out. i think cain knew that she was the one that ran over ethan so he’s obviously gonna connect the dotes - i’ve seen theories about her framing aaron for it all and aaron better have some supporters, cain will definitely be one of them and cain might even reveal to everyone that it was ruby who ran ehtan over, which related in his death.

now the thing i don’t understand is that emmerdale has most of the time always shown death but in this episode we only saw ethan collapse, be taken to hospital and being told that he’s dead - but what if he isn’t?

what if at the hospital he was saved and he told charles and manpreet that ruby was the one to run him over and she and rose are planning to take down kim, and to keep him safe they faked his death? that would be some really good story telling but emmerdale isn’t good at that right now.

[ottoline-otter]

my latest dumb emmerdale theory is: what if robert's already got out of prison, but he doesn't want aaron to know, because he's not ready to face him yet? and maybe victoria already knows but she doesn't want to tell aaron bc she thinks that's the final straw that would break him completely.

and somehow cain finds out and when he and aaron have their big fight, he snaps and tells aaron that robert's out but he doesn't want to see him. and that's what makes aaron lose it and put him in hospital. it could be this big reveal that's the cliffhanger of the episode

[scrapyardboyfriends]

Okay...watched the Caleb/Nicky reveal scenes...

I mean...sure. Also Jane...people definitely had that theory. I had that theory, other people I saw had that theory. 

But like...the layers of convoluted backstory here are just astounding. 

Caleb is the long lost retconned son of Faith, brother to Cain and Chas. 

He’s also the long lost retconned son of Frank Tate, brother to Chris and Zoe. 

So he’s an Uncle to Noah as well as a Dingle cousin. He’s also Jaime’s brother, so he’s an Uncle to Thomas and Joe Tate. 

Nicky is now a secret son of a secret son times 2 and who knows who his mother is going to turn out to be. He’s Thomas’s cousin. 

Caleb apparently knew his father was Frank Tate but didn’t know his grave was in Emmerdale!?!?! But then, I guess when Faith slept with Frank, he wouldn’t have been in Emmerdale yet. 

So....he saw that Cain had been arrested and found out Faith died and when looking into Emmerdale where they lived, he also discovered that his father used to live there and that his wife was living there now? 

So how did he find out all of the Kim/Frank history to even have this revenge agenda?! 

Also...how did Faith and Frank even meet to have this affair/one night stand? It’s not like any of them were living in the village at the time. 

And then how do we have Nicky telling Caleb he needs to get money so his mum’s not homeless??? When all Caleb has been doing since he arrived is splashing cash around to fix everyone’s problems with his fancy lawyers? Is that why he has to get money now cause he spent it all on helping Cain because he really did want to help Cain out after he took the fall for him when they were kids? 

I just....I have so many questions. 

Am I happy the secret has been revealed mostly so we don’t have to deal with the vague cryptic nonsense anymore? Yes. Does it make them mildly more interesting characters for the moment? Sure. 

But...similarly to when they brought Kim back and only like four current characters in the village even knew her, this stuff with Frank happened 25 years ago. I feel like half their audience doesn’t even know who Frank Tate is, let alone cares about someone getting revenge for his death. Especially when it’s carried out by random retconned characters. 

At least when they bring back characters like Jaime or Joe or Robert or Thomas King coming up, these are characters with on screen history so things make a bit more sense. 

Speaking of Joe though, this whole Caleb story feels like a retread of that because they never really got to finish that one so they decided to do this instead. 

So like...cool that they’re trying to use the show’s history to do things but also it all feels like a bit of a waste since it’s from so long ago and I still wish they’d remember that they are allowed to bring in new characters without having them have convoluted retconned connections to half the village. 

[aro-with-bad-aim]

So I started reading Anna karenia by Leo Tolstoy and to spare everyone I know, I’m gonna ramble here about each part as I read it. :D

Part 1

I went into this book expecting it to be horrifically dark and sad, however I can’t lie it’s been weirdly funny. It feels like I’m reading a soap opera like emmerdale or something. I genuinely burst out laughing at some of the lines and I don’t think that was the writers intention. It’s still a good book so far, just not for the reason I thought. I’m a massive fan of tragedy and tragic theory so I’m hoping things take a darker turn soon. The worst thing to happen is somebody got hit by a train, but that was weirdly glossed over and has been pretty much forgotten. I think it’s probably going to foreshadow something because of how irrelevant it was, or it was to set up a characters traits, as the beginning of their trajectory to contrast to their later behaviour.

[radprinceland]

Some of my recent emmerdale theories are:

1. Sarah and Jacob could be involved in the car in the ice. I did see a spoiler on twitter about a night out for villagers ending in tragedy for some and it would prove Jacob's loyalty to Sarah

2. I reckon a dingle is returning in 2025

3. I think the grave Cain is at is one of his kids or grandkids (my money is on Debbie or Nate)

4. I think Jack Sugden Jr will end up returning with a sad storyline

5. I think Ross will be a father figure to Sarah

6. I reckon by the end of the year, Sarah and Jacob will be engaged

[janinebutcher]

Hollyoaks 01.01.25 Review

i want to write little reviews for each episode cause i need somewhere to share all my thoughts. tumblr is the only platform where i can do that honestly because no one on here gives a fuck

1st January 2025 - Written by Daniel Moulson

A decent start to the new year.

Which was quite surprising, given that that is the last episode of the festive boxset and all the other episodes were pathetic trash.

The story strand I enjoyed the most lately were the Hutchinsons. Alex Fletcher is a gem because no matter how awful Diane might be, she's always very watchable. Some lovely Diane/Ro scenes. They have come a long way since last year. Quite liked Diane admitting how wrong she was. I enjoy how normal and human their family drama is.

Poor Ro is now stuck with nasty little Arlo. A despicable little character but a good one. The transphobic bullying is hard to watch but it's something that needs to be told, now more than ever.

The Abe saga is also one of the better aspects of the show right now. Tyler Conti is brilliant at what he does. Abe taunting a comatose Cleo was so sinister. Truly a love to hate character.

He's a master at manipulating people. Anytime Peri doubts him, he turns it back to her. Tyler plays Abe in a way where I can actually believe that the other characters find Abe's lies so convincing (the same can't be said about other abuser characters, like Tom from Emmerdale for example, where I simply couldn't understand why no one was seeing right through him).

Good twist at the end when Peri found the tablecloth that Cleo used for her makeshift wedding dress.

Rex is trying to recruite Dillon for whatever he is up to... I honestly don't really care what that might be. Rex is already such an exhausting character, I'm fighting the urge to press the fast forward button every time he's on screen. Then again, this might be interesting if more characters I care about get involved. I have seen some theories about either sex trafficking or a remade county lines. I'm hoping for the first option cause that could go really dark. We don't need another county lines story so soon after the last.

I don't find Dillon particularly likeable but I don't need him to be. Him being a single teenage parent is actually quite interesting. We usually just see teen mums so this is a more unique direction. Obviously, he's not coping at all and refusing to take any responsibility. And that makes sense. He's 19, he's made a massive mistake that suddenly affected his whole entire life. He can barely look after himself, nevermind a baby. It doesn't paint him in the best light but I think it's a realistic reaction. I just need Nathaniel Dass to improve his emotional acting a bit. He's good with lighthearted and day to day material but he's not impressing me much in the more serious scenes. But so far he only had very little focus (and that after nearly two years on the show, what the hell), so maybe this new dark story with Rex will be the making of him.

Generally have to say though that I find Dillon & Lucas a lot more intriguing as individuals than as a couple.

My episode score: 6.5 out of 10

I know I said that this was a decent episode but there's still plenty of room for for improvement. In its current state I doubt it will reach 9 to 10 scores that often but who knows. I'm trying not to be too biased and judgy but it's hard when they took everything I loved about the show away and doubled down on all the aspects I hate. But oh well. Maybe I'm not the main target audience. Everyone else on the socials seems to eat it up.

[thelovetheystole]

It's not as crazy a theory as it might sound 🤷‍♀️ I personally support this wholeheartedly.