#elseworlds pt.2

[itachi86]

ha kara's reaction to barry telling her about oliver and sara

[insomniac-jay]

DC OC | Reading List Pt.2

Sophia Evangelista | Angeknight

Angeknight: Between Heaven and Hell - Sophia's debut series that follows her and her team the Sun Angels on their mission to destroy the Fallen Angel Ophiel and her legion of darkness.

Pandora - Major supporting character. Elyon is both Sophia's ward and sidekick before being handed off to the newest Teen Titans.

Sol - Sophia is also a major supporting character in Solana's solo series as her mentor.

Angeknight: Schism - The longest series of Sophia's publication history at over 100 volumes long. Schism follows Sophia having to deal with splitting factions of Angels in Heaven, major changes in her work and personal lives, and learning secrets about her family.

Angeknight: Reformation - As Titans Academy's new guidance counselor, Sophia works hard to push the rowdy children in the right direction. However, she must answer Heaven's call again after receiving a disturbing vision.

Angeknight & Cheshire - A oneshot comic that follows Sophia and Jade tracking down the person who put a hit out on both of them. It takes place shortly after Reformation.

Knights of Titania: Faith, Trust, and Fairy Dust - She appears as a major supporting character. Sophia's one of the group's mentors despite not being a member of the Titans. This is her last appearance under her Angeknight name.

Isis - Sophia's Outsiders (2003) era. Sophia retires Angeknight and moves back to Star City for a fresh start. She forms a new team called the Calvary under a new codename: Isis.

Archangel - An Elseworld story where Sophia joins Team Arrow and becomes the White Arrow then Archangel.

Isis: Champion of Bana-Mighdall - Another alternate universe where Sophia never becomes a Seraphim, instead the champion of the Bana. Various team ups include Artemis, Niobe, Yara, and Donna Troy.

Marietta Brooks | Glamor

Glamor - Marietta's debut. The covers of each volume are references to different album covers of black femme pop singers.

Glamor: All That Glitters - A few years after her debut series, Marietta's reign hasn't stopped as she takes on Hollywood. Before that can happen, a person from her family's past threatens to put out her star.

Glamor: Back in Black - Marietta retires from the world of vigilante crime fighting and into her new position: award winning actress, singer, wife, and mother. That is until a person from her past as Glamor comes back with news so devastating, it forces her to don her costume one last time.

Venus Parks | Star Sapphire

Star Sapphire - Venus's debut. From world famous DJ to intergalactic warrior, Venus's life is full of twists and turns. As a Star Sapphire, it's her duty to restore love to the universe; but sometimes she needs a little love herself.

Star Sapphire: Ring of Light - Venus sought out by the queen of an alien planet to find and return a stolen artifact called the Ring of Light. Venus is up to the task only for the search to be more difficult than she expected. Having no other options, she's forced to team up with the newest Red Lantern, Furiosa.

Star Sapphire: City of Diamond - Who is the Twilight Knight; and why do they want her ring? That's a question Venus wants answered after a mysterious masked figure attacks her while returning to Earth. Teaming up with fellow Star Sapphire, Pepper Jackson, their search takes them to the farthest reaches of the galaxy, to a whole other solar system.

Star Sapphire: Trifecta - During an investigation into illegal weapons trafficking back on Earth, Venus crosses paths with Larissa and a new Green Lantern called Emerald Ranger. They join forces to create Trifecta, a team made up of the three lanterns.

Red Hood and the Outlaws - Venus joins the Outlaws as an ally before becoming a full member.

Boombox - After an incident with her Star Sapphire ring, Venus temporarily retires the mantle and begins to build a new one. Donning a mecha suit made of radio devices, Venus debuts as her new hero persona, Boombox.

Daliah Yukimura | Snow

Snow - Daliah's debut series that features her first forays into being the local superhero in her hometown of Happy Harbor.

Young Justice: Of Ice Queens and Sun Goddesses - Daliah's Young Justice debut. At the request of Superboy, Daliah joins the team alongside another new member, Solana Banks.

Snow & Arrowette - Mini series that follows Daliah and her childhood friend Cissie as a duo; before either of them joined Young Justice. A highlight of this miniseries is the family reunion from hell and the introduction of the Yukimura clan.

Snow & Crysticle - Another miniseries featuring Camryn, Daliah's older sister and member of the Watchers. Camryn has returned home for the summer which means sisterly fun and crime fighting.

Jawbreakers - Now in college and on her way to becoming a professional figure skater, Daliah moves to San Francisco with Solana as roommates. She puts her superhero career to the side to keep up her training. Eventually, she joins the newly formed Jawbreakers.

Justice Girls - An Elseworld story where Cassie breaks off from Young Justice to form her own team, the Justice Girls.

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[whoeveryoulovethemost]

Oliver and Felicity I Elseworlds pt.2 I  Arrow 7x09

[lycanhood]

[sunnydaleherald]

The Sunnydale Herald Newsletter, Friday, March 25

[Drabbles & Short Fiction]

Shall we dance? (Buffy/Spike, G) by BoredomBeckons

The three I've loved (Drusilla/Spike, Buffy/Spike, G) by BoredomBeckons

No Show (Buffy/Spike, R) by Holly

Sharp (Buffy/Spike, R) by EllieRose101

[Chaptered Fiction]

Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Shadowed Suspicion Chapter 337 (Ensemble, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure xover, PG-13) by madimpossibledreamer

Shadow Over Hellmouth Chapter 58 (Buffy/Tara, NC-17) by Tuxedo_Mark

Nocturne Chapter 8 (Giles/Jenny, R) by RoselynnThornwood, The_Eclectic_Bookworm

No One Asks For Their Life to Change, Not Really Chapter 4 (Spike/Reader, R) by Paskeleton

a guide for girls on returning to sunnydale Chapter 6 (Buffy/Faith, PG-13) by carrotstix

Soul Purpose Chapter 5 (Buffy/Spike, R) by B_Red

The Injury Chapter 7 (Faith/Tara, PG-13) by BuffyBot3000

Unforgivable Chapter 5 (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by JWS1993

To Live In The World Chapter 40 (Buffy/Faith, R) by IvorySteel92

Horizon [Part 2] Chapter 5 (Faith, PG-13) by broken_hearted_bard

Mortal Allies Episode 5: War and Roses Chapter 7 (Buffy/Spike, R) by Passion4Spike

Gray Chapter 39 (Buffy/Spike, R) by Dusty87

Don’t You Wish You Had Faith? Chapter 8 (Buffy/Faith, R) by QuillBard

The Heist Chapter 4 (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by Ifeelittoo21

Touching the Fire Chapter 7 (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by GillO

Protecting Harry Chapter 27 (Xander, Harry Potter xover, PG-13) by faewm

Death Is Buffy's Next Big Adventure Chapter 77 (Buffy/Tom Riddle, Harry Potter xover, PG-13) by Sharie1

Elseworld Buffy Chapter 3 (Buffy, Diagnosis Murder xover, PG-13) by Owen

You Can't Fight Fate - But You Can Go Around Him Chapter 14 (Buffy/Bruce Wayne, DCU xover, PG-13) by Hermione2be

Out of Time: 1942 Chapter 25 (Buffy/Tom Riddle, Harry Potter xover, R) by Aynn_Ward

Slaying Gotham Chapter 27 (Buffy/Bruce Wayne, Batman xover, PG-13) by 88dragons

A Slice of Spike's Unlife Chapter 9 (Buffy/Spike, PG) by . Complete story

[Images, Audio & Video]

Fanvid: Champion (Ensemble) by CaptainBlondiebear

Fanvid: let's be best pals (Buffy/Spike) by loveisntbrains (Warning for flickering)

[Reviews & Recaps]

Transcript: Tim Minear and David Fury at WhedonCon 2017 by yourlibrarian

Transcript: Ladies of Whedon Panel by yourlibrarian

Transcript: Nick Brendon, Mark Lutz, and Stunts Panel by yourlibrarian

Video: Buffy Review - 3x21 Graduation Day Pt. 1 by Reverse Angle

PODCAST: S3. Ep15. Consequences (Spoiler Free) by becomingbuffypodcast

25 Years Later: I Have Never Watched Buffy the Vampire Slayer, so I Decided to Watch “Restless” (S4E22) by Byron Lafayette

[Fandom Discussions]

BtVS + Love Languages: Angel by herinsectreflection

Thougts on BtVS S6 & 7 and Spuffy by takaraphoenix

“SweetLorne” aka I think Lorne was criminally underused by WriteImagination

If there would be a chance for some new episodes... by CaptainAlpi

How would the plot differ if Cordelia was in season 5 instead of Spike? by various authors

Season 2 Completed, First Watch by SemperMiror

[Articles, Interviews, and Other News]

Glamour Magazine: The Buffy the Vampire Slayer reboot is officially happening (and Sarah Michelle Gellar wants Zendaya to take the lead!)

ScreenRant: Buffy The Vampire Slayer: Each Main Character, Ranked By Bravery

ScreenRant: Buffy The Vampire Slayer Star Responds To Tara's Death Controversy

NME: Sarah Michelle Gellar says ‘Buffy’ stars were “pitted against each other”

[captainswan4e]

Favourite flash episodes from any season?

S01E06 “The Flash Is Born” S01E09 “The Man in the Yellow Suit” ♥ S01E15 “Out of Time” S01E20 “The Trap“ S01E21 “Grodd Lives“ S02E13 “Welcome to Earth-2″ S02E14 “Escape from Earth-2“ S02E20 “Rupture“ ♥ S02E21 “The Runaway Dinosaur“ ♥ S02E23 “The Race of His Life“ S03E01 “Flashpoint” ♥ S03E02 “Paradox“ S03E03 “Magenta“ ♥ S03E04 “The New Rogues“ S03E09 “The Present“ ♥ S03E10 "Borrowing Problems from the Future" ♥ S03E11 "Dead or Alive" S03E12 "Untouchable" S03E13 "Attack on Gorilla City" S03E14 "Attack on Central City" ♥ S03E15 "The Wrath of Savitar" S03E17 "Duet" ♥ S03E21 "Cause and Effect" ♥ S03E22 "Infantino Street" ♥ S03E23 "Finish Line" ♥ S04E01 "The Flash Reborn" S04E02 "Mixed Signals" ♥ S04E03 "Luck Be a Lady" ♥ S04E05 "Girls Night Out" S04E07 "Therefore I Am" Supergirl S03E08 “Crisis on Earth-X” S04E09 "Don't Run" S04E10 "The Trial of the Flash" S04E11 "The Elongated Knight Rises" S04E15 "Enter Flashtime" ♥ S04E16 "Run, Iris, Run" ♥ S04E21 "Harry and the Harrisons" S04E23 "We Are the Flash" S05E01 "Nora" S05E04 "News Flash" S05E05 "All Doll'd Up" ♥ S05E09 "Elseworlds, Part 1" S05E11 "Seeing Red" S05E17 "Time Bomb" S05E19 "Snow Pack" S05E22 "Legacy" S06E01 "Into the Void" S06E06 "License to Elongate" S06E07 "The Last Temptation of Barry Allen, Pt. 1" S06E08 "The Last Temptation of Barry Allen, Pt. 2" S06E09 "Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part Three" ♥ S06E17 "Liberation" S07E03 "Mother"

This whole show is a “DO IT FOR THEM” meme, but i’m getting tired.. Just end it. Set me free

[thequiver]

I totally agree with you about the menace that was Gail Simone towards Jade and how she pushed Jade fully into the dragon lady trope, but I think that recent writers (Ram V) are definitely not inspired by it. His Jade seems benevolent and cares for her daughter, as she says "be safe, my lotus" And she is currently seeking redemption alongside Clayface in the Catwoman book, their reunion will def come in catwoman 39 in december and ram has said that he finds their backstory very interesting

pt 2

Also Young Justice has done a lot for Jade, it made people see her beyond a teen titans and birds of prey psycho goonie and actually explored a backstory for her and gave her relationships that keep being worked on and real nuance, even if it's a different backstory than her comics counterpart I think its a very good reinterpretation of the character that made her a fan favorite character from the show, really excited for her in s4, from the trailer it seems she will have bigger focus on her

And you're entitled to your opinion, that doesn't mean that it isn't still out of character for Jade to leave her daughter with strangers in Gotham, and it doesn't mean that the Shoes story is good or logical. I don't have to like it and I'm allowed to criticize what I feel is something that's still a carryover from this writing, and something that follows the trend of characters associated with the arrows being shoved into batbooks. I've never said that people aren't allowed to like Ram's work, just that I don't? You'll also find that most posts in the Jade tag tend to focus on her looking hot in the art and not on the actual story or her character, regardless of Ram's writing, the fandom is still fairly focused on Jade as a "sexy murder wife." I also wasn't even talking specifically about Ram V, but rather about literally any writer who's written Jade in any capacity since Gail Simone.

Also- like, you're allowed to like Elseworlds? I don't like go out of my way to shit on people for liking Elseworlds, I just express my opinion and make snarky comments in the tags sometimes? I also watch Young Justice? I've used Young Justice to help get people into DC? I'm still allowed to be frustrated that a large part of what makes Jade, Jade to me was lost when her backstory was switched in Young Justice, and that her relationship with Roy was changed in ways that I didn't particularly like. To me, Jade's comics backstory is integral to her character and replacing her backstory with having Sportsmaster for a father just doesn't make sense to me and removes a lot of her motivations and impulses. To me they're almost different characters. You're allowed to like it, I just don't, and that's okay, we don't have to like the same things. Like, idk how many times I have to say it, but, you're allowed to like what you like. I'm not here to police your interests. This is my blog, where I share my opinions, and they happen to be different than yours. You're welcome to block or unfollow me if my opinions bother you, I don't take it personally, it's your online space to curate as you please. I'm very picky about characterizations of Jade, I've openly admitted this multiple times. I have friends who happen to love Elseworlds and Ram V's Jade, and guess what? We can have productive conversations without getting defensive because it's fiction, and it's just different interpretations of media and we can still respect each other. Not everyone has to agree with me, and I'm okay having a differing opinion from other fans of the same character- but I have asked before that people stop trying to talk to me about Ram V's Jade because the premise of the Shoes story personally bothers me to the point where it makes me uncomfortable because of the ways in which my responses to my own trauma have mirrored Jade's in some aspects, and I'm going to ask that you please respect that.

[onf-headcanons]

Masterlist

edited/updated on : 28/05/2021

BF ONF series

Mornings with ONF (officially completed)

(Hyojin, Changyoon, Seungjoon, Jaeyoung, Minkyun, Yuto , Minseok )

When you can't sleep

(Hyojin, Changyoon, Seungjoon, Jaeyoung, Minkyun, Yuto , Minseok )

BF!ONF reacts

You kissing them suddenly and explained that it is a spell for them to look more good looking (Hyung line, Dongsaeng line)

First Kiss

ONF with S/O who wears glasses

ONF reacts when their S/O comes home upset

ONF X FOOD X YOU

ONF REACTS WHEN YOU TAKE/BEING INITIATIVE

ONF REACTS TO S/O FEELING INSECURE ABOUT THEIR BODY

ONF  TRYING TO GAIN THEIR S/O ATTENTION

ONF REACT TO KNOWING THEIR FEELINGS ARE MUTUAL (PRIOR CONFESSING)

ONF REACTIONS WHEN YOU COVER THEIR EYES DURING INTERACTIONS

ONF REACT TO “I KISSED MY BEST FRIEND TREND” (MUTUAL FEELINGS HE)

ONF RETURNING HOME FINDING YOU SLEEPING ON THE COUCH

ONF REACTS TO UNEXPECTED ENCOUNTER WITH YOUR EX

BF!series quick drabbles (inspired by gifsets by others or random pics)

Hyojin ( Date with Sunglasses Hyojin ,Facetime with Hyojin, Facetime with Hyojin 2)

Seungjoon (Small talk before bed)

Jaeyoung X Reader with scars (Headcanon one shot)

Minkyun X Reader with scars (Headcanon Drabble)

You telling Hyojin you dream of him during face time

Date with Changyoon but he is sulky

Chatting with Seungjoon while he is resting his head on your lap

With Hyojin during his sister’s wedding day

HYOJIN BEING GREMLIN AND PRANKSTER WHEN IT COMES TO GIFTS

LOVE LANGUAGE SERIES

HUGS

HOLDING HANDS

RANDOM GESTURE (HYUNG LINE)  , (DONGSAENG LINE)

BF!ONF MTL

PDA, ONF’stendency to leave hickies/mark on S/O, Tendency to confess first 

BF! Moodboards

Hyojin 

Model Foodie BF,  Brunch date , 

Changyoon

Engaged, Honeymoon pt1, Honeymoon pt 2, Honeymoon pt 3

Seungjoon

Coffee date, The shy BF, The fond senpai that notices you (w/hcs)

Jaeyoung

Minkyun

Coffee & Cafe date

Florist AU (idea dump)

Yuto

The Osaka BF, Living together (summer),  Day trip to Akihabara with Yuto

Minseok

University sweetheart

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Modern Fantasy au

1st establishment

2nd establishment

Headcanons when living with your magical friends (Pt1, pt2, pt3 )

Goodbye Minseok arc

The ending of the story

Random hc

Random hc 2

Random hc 3 (Your household sets up christmas tree and 2 of your familiars are way too excited for Christmas)

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MODERN FANTASY AU 2 (AKA DEMON AU)

HOW WOULD THEY LOOK LIKE 

FIRST ESTABLISHMENT

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Host!au (HCs and Moodboard)

Establishment Moodboard

Jaeyoung

Yuto

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Office au

Office au headcanon

Office au random, Seungjoon Office au random

Hyojin Office AU random

The return of Minseok (stroy arc establishment + idea dump)

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Sibling au ( 21 possibilities, 7 universes for Sibling!au)

Universe 1 (done)

Jaeyoung and Minkyun

Hyojin and Minseok

Changyoon and Seungjoon  (YAY christmas tree!!!)

• Yuto as Minseok’s classmate, an exchange student  

Universe 2 (done)

Hyojin and Minkyun (RANDOM SCENE WHERE YOUR SIBLINGS TRIED TO COOK DINNER)

Changyoon and Jaeyoung

Minseok and Yuto

• Seungjoon as Hyojin and Changyoon classmate

Universe 3 (done)

Hyojin and Changyoon

Seungjoon and Jaeyoung

Yuto and Minkyun

• Minseok as yuto classmate

Universe 4 (currently working on)

Seungjoon and Minkyun  (RANDOM SCENE WHERE THEY PICKING YOU UP FROM STATION)

Minseok and Changyoon

Jaeyoung and Yuto

• Hyojin as Changyoon and Seungjoon classmate

Universe 5

Hyojin and Jaeyoung

Seungjoon and Yuto

Minkyun and Minseok

• Changyoon as Hyojin,  Seungjoon classmate

Universe 6

Seungjoon and Minseok

Hyojin and Yuto

Changyoon and Minkyun

• Jaeyoung as neighbour friend

Universe 7

Changyoon and Yuto

Jaeyoung and Minseok

Hyojin and Seungjoon    (birthday special)

• Minkyun as the neighbour friend

University AU

Senpai ONF (University!AU) establishment photo 

DANCE GROUP VIBE ESTABLISHMENT PHOTO

First establishment/ world building/ character setting for each members

The shy BF, The fond senpai that notices you (w/hcs)  >> Seungjoon/J-us

University sweetheart  >> Minseok/Laun

The Osaka BF, Living together (summer)  >> Yuto /U

Coffee & Cafe date   >> Minkyun

Character vibe establishment for Senpai AU Hyojin

ANOTHER HEADCANON FOR SENPAI AU HYOJIN

PAPA!ONF HEADCANONS

HYUNG LINE 

DONGSAENG LINE

Dad!Hyojin (You and your kid at the dentist)

SONGS ONF WILL PLAY/SING TO THEIR KID

IT IS HARD WHEN YOU DAD IS AN IDOL

Random specials and others

First time (Hyojin x reader one shot smut fic) (M)

First time (Jaeyoung x reader one shot smut fic)  (M)

First time (Changyoon X reader one shot smut fic) (M)

Minseok headcanons (RTK, Sukhimvit Swimming Era)

Elseworld Omegaverse (Jaeyoung X reader fic idea proposal attempt)

ONF 3rd Anniversary special - Driving out with ONF

Random Hyojin Moodboard 1

Mini sibling au!Hyojin fic (RTK era, Reader as Hyojin’s real life sibling stand in)

Lucifer/Demon Hyojin (?)

Tutor AU (brief headcanons for all members)

2020 YEAR END SPECIAL (Rei’s writing notes for each member, maybe will update more)

2020 CHRISTMAS SPECIAL aka IDEA DUMP

2021 NEW YEAR SPECIAL LAUN x MINI GAME HEAVEN SEASON 2 HCS

SPECIAL HEADCANON TO CELEBRATE FIRST WIN

SHOULD ONF HAVING DIFFERENT OCCUPATION

ANGEL AU?

ANOTHER OFFICE AU AKA CEO AU

IDEA DUMP COMPILATIONS+ SHORT DRABBLES 

ONF AS MAFIA!/RICH KID CHAEYEON BODYGUARD/FIGHTER SUBORDINATE

CHANGYOON PAINTING YOUR NAILS

DON’T EVER INVITE ONF TO A WEDDING?

ONF MV LORE 1 , 2(KARMIC LOOP THEORY)

SOFT HOURS WITH SEUNGJUN

SLEEPING ON JAEYOUNG’S SHOULDER/IN HIS ARMS WHILE TRAVELLING

CUPPING HYOJIN’S SQUISHY CHEEKS

SPECIAL FEATURING DEMIGOD AU FROM @jae-beomblebee

1ST IDEA, 2ND (MORE ESTABLISHMENTS)

[gothamdetected-a]

multiverse.

i know what you’re thinking. sim are you absolutely fucking insane, don’t even TRY to tackle this one. you’re right i am insane. and yes i am still going to try and tackle a meta about DC multiverses HOWEVER, to give myself on shred of sanity on this treacherous journey, i will say that this is mainly going to be about the multiverse from a bruce perspective. this ride is a batman focused train i’m afraid. also i want to state that this is by no means a perfect explanation – i’m a) trying to keep it simple and b) still am lost on parts of the timeline myself so. its what i can offer.

ok so, originally NCP, or the national comics publication (who will one day become DC), wrote their golden age heroes on an earth now designated as earth-2. in the 30s, just before the war, comic books absolutely exploded as a media format, and a bunch of companies all jumped the gun on creating superheroes. many of DCs most endearing and recognisable heroes were created all the way back then, however many of them also are not quite who you will recognise as the character today. hal jordan wasn’t green lantern, but was instead a man called alan scott, jay garrick was the flash instead of barry allen etc etc. don’t worry though! batman is still batman, and has been bruce wayne since 1939. earth-2 batman, as he will come to be known, is a bright kind of guy found on technicolour pages with a cute lil robin by his side – there is a reason for this. the war. literally NCP said we cant be sending out dark and gritty comics to people dying in trenches so time to make it colourful and faintly ridiculous, and bruce wayne is a surprisingly optimistic guy for a man who watched his parents be slaughtered in front of him.

of course, by the 60s, NCP (who are also sort of known as NPP and really known by your average joe as superman-dc, based on their most successful comic runs) had realised their timelines were getting a bit squiggly for their golden age heroes, and most of them had been replaced out by their silver age counterparts anyway. so between 1961 and 1963, NCP start creating another “earth”, officially designated earth-1, which would become their main planet for all kinds of superhero shenanigans. the justice society of america becomes the justice league of america, and when you think of batman, you’re probably thinking of earth-1 batman. at least pre crisis. and, once they get taste for building whole new earths, we also get earth-3 (1964), or “opposite world”, where the good guys are bad guys, and batman is owlman and instead of the jla we have the crime syndicate of america.  

so sim, what other earths did dc come up with? well, i literally refuse to list them all because it was a multiverse and they did not slow down, but the ones that are most important to me are earth-5 where the only hero to live on this planet is bruce wayne/batman, and earth-89 where lois marries bruce instead of clark ahAHAHHAA. but i can tell you that pre-crisis there are 91 designated earths, and basically it could have gone on forever. there was an earth-c minus, earth-124.1, an earth where everyone was reptiles, honestly it was a MESS. and therein lies the problem.

now i’ve just used the term “pre-crisis”. what’s that, sim? maybe you’re not very familiar with comics, or with the recent dctv version of said comics, and so i will endeavour to explain one of the most brain numbing storylines that spans DC. also known as a retcon. see all these earths with their own histories and heroes and well everything really was becoming very inconvenient and meant a lot of world jumping and who can interact with who and everything was getting like spaghetti because they couldn’t calm down on the earth-building. so DC (who are officially DC at this point, 1977 babeyy), specifically a guy called marv wolfman (coolest name ever) who was sick of so many earths, comes up with the bright idea that will later form into a comic run called crisis on infinite earths (1985-1986). it was a serious crossover event, really considered by many to be the first of its kind. it sold extremely well, boosting dc’s flagging sales against it’s biggest rival, marvel. and as for the plot, it’s a bit convoluted but essentially some bloke turns up and starts to destroy all these worlds, and it becomes a race between the heroes and villains as to who can save/conquer the remaining earths that are left. although there are crises before and after this specific run, pre-crisis basically always refers to this particular crisis event, as it really shaped DC for the next 30 years.

for a while the retcon does an okay job of keeping the number of earths low. there’s still some earths that are considered non-continuous floating around, but mainly there’s just earth-1, which is now a merger of the most important “earths” that existed pre-crisis, and a way for all of DCs heroes to now be in one place and interact with each other. other earths at this point include;

earth-23 (1986) – a small pocket dimension

earth-17 (1990) – we don’t talk about this. honestly spare yourself and. don’t look. its horrific.

earth-27 (1990) – a historically divergent planet with a hero actually called vegetable man.

earth-85 (1987) – a hodgepodge of post-crisis characters live here, chillin

earth-988 (1990) – superboy is the only hero in this universe

the antimatter universe – all of pre-crisis’ earth-3 villains, including owlman, get shoved here for later use when dc need a couple of villains to come back.

and for a while all is well. then comes DC elseworlds (1989). which. you know. i love. it gave me victorian batman. pirate batman. caveman batman. vampire batman. frankenstein batman. terrorist batman fighting against russian!superman. they even gave me marvel crossovers, with captain america meeting batman. it was a glorious time. technically elseworlds is not considered canon, ran outside of canon as a way for writers to explore those wacky kind of worlds lost to the crisis, which is dumb because some of the plot lines are both hilarious and incredible. but the numbers started to get ridiculous again. most elseworlds are named after the year that the plot takes place in, so we get earth-1889, earth-1938 etc, but even more of them just seem to have random designations. i think by the time they reached earth-5050 they sort of knew that theyd fucked up again. we’ve had zero hour, we’ve got hypertime and kingdom come, and besides, its been a while since they had a good crossover, so by the time 2005 rolls around its time for crisis pt 2 (because dc love to use the word crisis for crossovers) or as it’s officially known infinite crisis. infinite crisis has an even more confusing plot involving a bunch of slightly nuts versions of characters escaping a pocket dimension, earths being created and then merged, and a rogue ai which batman made and then has to destroy because his own creation becomes too powerful etc etc. the only good thing to come out of it was earth-0, or bizarro world, because bizarro & batzarro are my babies. don’t worry though, this new set of earths won’t last long either, as in 2008 DC conclude their trilogy of crises with final crisis that featured one of the most important events in batman’s history – darkseid “killing” him. yes the quotations are important. i’ll leave you to infer what they mean.

so 3 crises later and everything is still just as messy as they’ve ever been and there’s 60 years worth of comic history being tangled about, and marvel had already established a very successful reboot in 2000, and anything marvel do, we can do better, so DC do their first, full and proper reboot. unlike retcons before it, which is where they retroactively try to fix what people already know and simplify timelines & earths, this is like someone shaking the etch-a-sketch and starting fresh. back in infinite crisis an arbitrary number was assigned to how many “earths” there could be – 52. and so in 2011, DC go hey that’s neat and create what becomes known as the new- or nu-52. heroes are given shiny new backstories, everything is streamlined and wonderful, sales rise, DC has a clean slate to build off again.

ha.

yeah that doesn’t happen.

this reboot, also known as flashpoint, due to it being spawned from another big ol’ crossover of the same name, shows barry allen trapped in an alternate universe where everything is not quite right – his mother is alive, superman is nowhere to be found and he doesn’t have his powers. worst of all thomas wayne is batman. yeah, batman’s dad is batman. thanks DC, i hate it. reverse-flash has tried to change history and stop the jla from ever being formed – le gasp. barry goes to fix it, merges three universes together – earth-0, which isn’t a bizarro world but now the “main" earth, also called new earth or prime earth (DC), earth-13 (vertigo) and earth-50 (wildstorm), but also causes 10 years to be “lost” to these characters. there are now 52 brand spanking new earths, each sitting in their own universe as part of the multiverse. no one remembers anything except barry. even for a reboot and convergence of DC’s franchises, it’s messy as fuck. and it goes to shit very very quickly. people don’t really like n-52. DC have cancelled everything, certain characters such as cassandra cain-wayne are fucking ERASED from existence, no one likes the new costume designs, its an absolute shit show and the plots get very confusing very quickly.

so what do DC do?

they reboot again. sigh.

only 5 years after the mess of nu-52, they produce DC rebirth, a new relaunch of all their famous runs. brainiac does some magic and collects a bunch of worlds together and magically we’re all going to forget the last 5 years of comic hell. it is a reboot to retcon flashpoint as though that never happened. yes, DC are actually retconning their own reboots. talk about sweeping it under the carpet. technically “rebirth” only ran for a year as a promotional thing for the reboot, before joining with the larger, now-singular DC universe, however everyone still calls it rebirth because if we don’t give these things names it will get even more fucking confusing than it already is. rebirth also still has 52 universes making up the DC multiverse, just to make things even more simple and easy to understand (DC what is it with 52. why 52.) although lots of the earths in this multiverse have been re-designated – eg. pre-crisis earth-31 was home to an aged batman who fakes his death to go train a bunch of new vigilantes (the dark knight returns), and now 31 is an apocalyptic wasteland or some shite. a lot of these earths were re-designated during the flashpoint/nu-52 era, and even though rebirth was supposed to erase that, DC have decided never mind we’ll keep it. there’s also 7 mysteriously undesignated earths – ooh spooky, they definitely won’t feature in the next major crossover. also for a multiverse with 52 universes, they sure do have more than 52 : there’s the microverse, a bunch of universes collectively called “the sphere of the gods” where apokalips and like, literal heaven & hell exist, an innerverse???, dreamworld, limbo, DC are taking the piss they only said there were 52 earths but that means they can make as many other shitty dimensions and pocket-universes as they please apparently. don’t even get me started on the source wall. for the most part the writers just. don’t acknowledge this and stick to the main prime earth. for the most part. thanks for throwing thomas wayne as batman back into the mix, rebirth.

so that’s the last of it, right sim? eh, almost. it should have been the last of it, really. and then geoff johns couldn't keep his mouth shut and produced possibly the worst comic in recent history, if not ever, doomsday clock. now doomsday clock is a nightmare for an impossibly long list of reasons that i won’t get into here because this isn’t a rant about why i think doomsday clock is the worst thing to ever happen to dc (although that’s a catchy title i should use that some day) - no, the reason i bring up doomsday clock is because. oh my god even saying this makes me sad. doomsday clock proves that the pre-crisis universes still exist and are still out there. somewhere. canonically. sim why is that sad i thought you liked everything pre-52. it’s sad because it means at any point now, DC could bring them back, ruin their own legacy, make everything even more confusing than it already is. i love pre-52 stuff but you gotta leave it alone. currently doomsday clock has only established that these universes exist as a way to honour every era of superman, because DC didn’t want to completly erase some of the incredible work and storylines put into him as a character. fine, fair enough. but it does leave the possibility that they will try and return to them too. comic book writers love doing funky story lines like that. they think they need to write something that’s never been done before and instead of coming up with something actually unique, they just poke around in the multiverse WHICH IS HOW WE ENDED UP WITH THIS AS A PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

ahem.

hopefully this helped clarify some stuff for people, especially those folks who aren’t big comic fans/expereience dc through the DCEU or DCTV, when encountering rpers who say they base their characterisation off of, for example pre-n52/flashpoint comics, like myself.

oh, and thank you for coming to my ted sim talk.

[dcladies]

Felicity Smoak - Elseworlds Pt. 2

[hope-mikaelson]

Kate Kane in Elseworlds pt. 2

[itachi86]

i love caitlin's new style

[hope-for-olicity]

My Rage - Elseworlds Crossover Pt 2

Thing I LOVED

“People change, Felicity. It means we’re growing. We’re evolving….one thing that will not change, is how I feel about you. Love is too small a word. And no matter who you are, or what you become, no matter who I am, or what I become, you will always be the love of my life. People change. That never will.”  - Oliver. Felicity truly hearing him and KNOWING she will ALWAYS be accepted and loved. This was perfect but wish it could have happened at another time.

Things I Liked

- Caitlin and Felicity finally sharing a moment. It made my fanfic writers heart soar!!!! 

- Killer Frost

My Rage

- Oliver CHOOSING to lie to Felicity AGAIN. He grows and then the writers forget and make him stupid. Poor Felicity humiliated again being the last to know because her husband doesn’t trust her. 

- And then because they wanted to twist the knife in Felicity’s gut even more they said Iris figured it out right away - BLATANT LIE. We watched the show LAST NIGHT - do they think we have no memory? REALLY? It took Iris almost a full day and she spent MUCH MORE time with them. Felicity was with them for less than a minute. This just gives her more doubt to her relationship. I wanted to cry. I HATE MG.

- Felicity was more minor than John Diggle

- Would it have killed Oliver to say I’m sorry on screen? Would it?

- Why did Barry have to tell Oliver to talk to Felicity? Why?

- MG included his own name - disgust.

- Now there is an article (https://tvline.com/2018/12/10/arrowverse-crossover-recap-elseworlds-part-2-batwoman-oliver-felicity/) saying Olicity are perfectly fine now. Felicity suffers for 7 MONTHS - and it’s over in like an episode and a half? REALLY?? I’m not saying they should break up - before someone comes to that conclusion - just it should take a little longer to process. 

- I’m not even getting into the stupidity of the Gotham City visit - what a waste of Batwoman. 

- I can only hope next year there won’t be a crossover. 

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[whoeveryoulovethemost]

Oliver and Felicity I Elseworlds pt.2 I  Arrow 7x09

[valeriemperez]

I don't think Felicity deserves an heart to heart with Iris. Iris already had to console Felicity about her relationship with Oliver in Crisis on Earth X, even though it was Iris who's wedding was ruined. Then, Felicity rudely interrupted Iris and Barry's makeup wedding. I don't really think their friendship is fair to Iris. I have no interest in seeing Iris play therapist for poor Felicity again and get no support in return. I want SnoWest over either of our girls and Felicity.

LOL, well, I can see not feeling Felicity deserves it. I’m not here for Iris/Caitlin, but I would happily take any female friendship where someone actually listens to Iris and her issues instead of the other way around. Maybe Cecile can be the one if they ever give them another scene. Or Sue when she arrives!

@eboniangelvibez said:

Hi Tati. I rewatched the last WA scene in Pt 1 of the x-over 🥰 I love the way WA speak to each other. It’s raspy and soothing. They don’t speak to anyone else in that manner. I’ve seen complaints - they don’t get sex scenes like Ol*city, but IMO what they do have is so much more intimate. That scene was simple but at the same time so powerful. And I think if Barry had done more than take Iris’ hand to reassure her it would have diminished it. #TheGoldStandard #UltimateRLGoals #Yacht

Aww, I love it too. They are definitely a certain soft way with each other that they aren’t with anyone else, and the rest of the world falls away when they look at each other. 

It would be nice to Have It All, but I will take the end of the stick that I’ve got with this ship over almost any other I’ve seen. (My other OTPs that have stood the test of time got the WA side of things too, so clearly that’s just my preference.)

Give us WA Clois-style romantic Smallville sexy times goodness. We know they can do it. That’s what 3x04 was on Joe’s old couch. WE DESERVE IT!

They definitely can do it! I totally support a repeat.

IDG why people claim to be WA fans yet think that the OF love story is portrayed better 🤔 If that were the case Guggie and the other show runners wouldn’t be trying to make their IT couples more like WA 🙄 Barry has been in love with Iris since he was 10 years old. And while he’s been with other woman, they never measured up. Iris was always his one “TRUE” love. And LBR, Iris was with Eddie in S1 basically because Barry was in a coma for 9-months. They’re so much deeper than OF.

If you are a fan of OF, then presumably you like what you’ve gotten for them. But I think WA fans who want more just assume OF are getting it, because from actually watching the show I can tell you they get a lot less than WA.

Yeah, the crossover hasn’t been as iffy as I expected (granted, I only watched Part 1 all the way through and flipped back and forth with Part 2) but it does seem strange that Kara hasn’t had more to do. Wish they had thought of a legit plot for her rather than just witnessing Barry and Oliver’s weirdness. And Iris’s exclusion continues to grate. It makes no sense that she didn’t go along.

Right there with you. There’s no reason they couldn’t have brought her to E1 and switched her with someone so that she can learn a lesson too, like maybe what it means to be truly human vs. alien, I don’t know. 

I didn’t watch tonight’s crossover, but from what I heard, Iris is mentioned a lot, but somehow, the writers couldn’t make room for her physically. This crossover, I wanted my Iris/Lois/Kara team up. I think the actress that played Lois said she was disappointed that she didn’t get to work with CP for the crossover. I don’t know if anything in Elseworlds make sense.

It’s a sad indicator of what they value enough to pay for and what they don’t.

Oh great. Bringing back the “Grant and Candice have have issues being ‘intimate’” argument. How many interviews, BTS videos, gag reels, and deleted scenes do people want to ignore?? Please don’t put this on the actors. They are not the ones running, writing, directing, or editing the show. They can’t act scenes that aren’t written; and even when they do, they get cut. Not. their. fault.

Yeah, the chances that they are the ones stopping it are pretty much zero. I have already brought up the deleted scene 100 times, but it’s proof they will get the job done if there’s a job to get done lol.

Bravo for your patience dealing with all these asks that are basically fighting back and forth and getting nowhere. You’re always fair in your answers. I sometimes agree and sometimes disagree but you always hear people out. That’s why you’re one of the best commentary blogs.

Aww, thank you. I appreciate the compliment, and I’m glad someone likes my Switzerland self.

[the-quasar-hero]

I’m finally catching up on my tv shows and I’m on Elseworlds pt 2 of the DC crossover and I gotta say they picked an A1 choice for Kate Kane. 10/10.

Love the direction they took in