#elizabeth boleyn (six)

[soulrestinginstpetersburg]

Anne Boleyn's prayer book

[kyleetryme]

do Hamilton and six crossover pls pls pls

btw hamiltons henry!

[arty-e]

Haven’t drawn six the kids in a hot minute but have this silly thing

[sixaus-meaa]

Six The Musical as Tweets pt49

[katherines-howard]

[turtlele]

Cathy: What's your favorite trope?

Elizabeth: Obviously it's enemies to lovers.

Mary: That's a basic fucking bitch answer, Lizzie

Elizabeth: Alright you want a real answer, Mary?

Mary: Yes!

Elizabeth: When my mom was trying to get our dad's attention which resulted in my mom sharing a bed with your mom. Resulting in uncomfortable tension and a rivalry for our father’s affections. But they realized they loved each other and would have dumped dad if he wasn't the king resulting in the first divorce beheaded lines.

Catalina + Anne:

Anne: …I raised you right but…

Catalina: That’s oddly weird and specific that you know all that…

Jane: *turning her chair away from the others sipping her tea*

(Probably the turning point of me liking enemies to lovers.)

[dkmbookworm]

I have such a complicated relationship with Six: The Musical, at times. While it is very entertaining and a fun little forray/introduction to Tudor history with all of the songs and the different musical styles and artists they pull from for the queens

At the same time some of its feminist messaging is kind of undercut by the way they tell these stories. The theme of this musical is 1. There is no use in comparing the suffering of these women or any women in abusive relationships and 2. It is wrong to define them solely by their relationship to Henry as they are more than just the horrible things that happened to them. They were political figures in their own rights with their own accomplishments

However, this feels lost because the only accomplishment’s we learn about are Catherine Parr’s, and when we get to the final song, we don’t hear about the other queens, but instead we go into a what-if scenario where they had no attachment to Henry

And beyond that, we don’t gain a new understanding of the queens aside from the last two. Katherine Howard reveals how she wasn’t just some flirt or cheater, she was a victim of serial abuse throughout her very short life. We learn what Catherine Parr did outside of Henry.

However, there’s also something troubling about how her song ignores the fact her husband, Thomas Seymour, was actively grooming Elizabeth Tudor, her stepdaughter.

And then you get to Anne Boleyn where it also misrepresents her history because Henry’s accusations against her were completely fabricated in order to justify her murder. Especially considering they also accused her of sleeping with her own brother. Not only that but her relationship with Elizabeth is completely erased outside of a few references and any discussion of motherhood is limited to Jane Seymour, who I argue isn’t really expanded upon beyond what she is largely known for.

To say the least if how Anne of Cleves, while she does get out of this easier, they spread around try myth that she was rejected for being unattractive when it was that Henry had embarrassed himself in front of her with a ridiculous stunt before they were married. And going further into this, i wish the musical could have added the element that several of these women had interacted in their lives, had even started out as ladies in waiting. And you could have explored their relationships. Like you have Anne of cleves with Katherine Howard and how they knew each other in court. You have several of the queens relationships with Mary and Elizabeth, and even Edward before he died.

Idk if I’m putting unfair expectations on the musical or maybe even that this wasn’t the creators intention and thus I shouldn’t be expecting them to do what I think should be included. But I guess leave your thoughts on this if any of you come across it

[notso-daily-six-writing]

Random ass headcanon to get me back into this fandom

- Cathy’s back always hurts because she sits like a shrimp while writing or focusing on stuff.

- Kat, despite being great at baking, cannot fry any food for her LIFE. Like, cakes = amazing results, cookies = so tasty to the point that the cookie jar was empty the next day, bread = succeed the first try. but frying? omlette = scrambled eggs, nuggets = burnt, fried fish = burnt fish.

- Anna have realized she’s gay since the 16th century.

- Jane can crochet, Knit, cross stitch, needle punching, macrame, quilt and any other textile art. And despite barely able to read,she can read knitting and crochet patterns.

- Anne sometimes speaks only in French to bother everyone.

- Lina has a sword collection, both fake and real.

- Mary, despite acting mean to everyone, won’t say nor do anything mean to her mother.

- Elizabeth, when asked why she never married, just answered “why fall in love when you can fall asleep”.

- Edward like to go out and skateboard with Anna and Kat.

[carbonbeef]

Six Fun Fact

Because I'm obsessed with spreadsheets, I've been slowly adding more and more data to my little (ok it's big and slows my computer down hardcore) spreadsheet of Six information. After adding initial debut dates for every role each performer had, I came across a little fun fact: of the 73 unique debut orders performers in Six who performed 2 to 6 roles have had, there have, to this date, been 3 groups of people who debuted all the roles they have performed (again, to this date) in the exact same order; 2 groups of 3 who debuted 3 roles, and 1 group of 2 who debuted 2 roles:

Seymour/Howard/Parr

Elizabeth Walker (Breakaway 1.0)

Seymour Debut: 16 January 2020

Howard Debut: 18 February 2020

Parr Debut: 26 February 2020

Ellie Sharpe (Breakaway 2.0)

Seymour Debut: 11 October 2021

Howard Debut: 10 November 2021

Parr Debut: 14 February 2022

Jessie Davidson (Broadway 3.0)

Seymour Debut: 23 March 2024

Howard Debut: 7 April 2024

Parr Debut: 6 May 2024

Boleyn/Howard/Seymour

Bryony Duncan (Bliss 1.0)

Boleyn Debut: 8 September 2019

Howard Debut: 23 September 2019

Seymour Debut: 18 December 2019

Ashlee Waldbauer (Bliss 3.0)

Boleyn Debut: 22 November 2021 (First Show)

Howard Debut: 22 November 2021 (Second Show)

Seymour Debut: 3 January 2022

Izzy Formby-Jackson (Bliss 7.0)

Boleyn Debut: 30 November 2023

Howard Debut: 2 February 2023

Seymour Debut: 13 January 2024

Aragon/Cleves:

Shekinah McFarlane (West End 1.0)

Aragon Debut: 4 September 2019

Cleves Debut: 5 September 2019

Ella Burns (Australia 1.0)

Aragon Debut: 25 January 2020

Cleves Debut: 28 February 2020

*All photos taken from performers' and/or production members' social medias except the following:

Bryony Seymour (@tudorvonsnaps on Instagram)

Shekinah Aragon (@shonalosuise_photography on Instagram)

**Bryony's photo as Seymour was from her as a Swing in the West End 2.0 production and Shekinah's Cleves photo as Cleves was from her as Principal in the UK Tour 2.0 production, despite them debuting these roles in the Bliss 1.0 and West End 1.0 productions, respectively.

***Images were cropped so each one was cropped to equally fill a 10x5.63 inch full photo.

[leoleolovesdc]

Been reading a lot of those SIX reunites with their kids fics and hinestly I just can’t see Anne suddenly being a mother for Elizabeth. We have to remember that this is Musical!Anne, she doesn’t act very mature (wether you consider that to be an act or not is on you) and doesn’t seem to mind her daughter a lot. Lina talks about Mary and how she was one of the most important people in her life (so much so she treats not seeing her as one of the lowest points of her life [even if a bit comedically]) and half of Jane’s song is just talking about Edward, but Anne mentions Elizabeth once and just doesn’t convey much emotion except for “yeah, I kind of just died because she was girl [insert beheaded joke]”, and while, yes, Anne did choose to die so Elizabeth could rule one day I think Musical!Anne would maybe be kind if bitter about that? The amount of times she mentions dying cannot be healthy, she’s certainly not dealing well with it and she only did it for her daughter who, in this version, she doesn’t seem to really think much of.

I’d personally write a Anne-Elizabeth relationship as really strained. Eliza grew up with this idea of her mother from very biased sources, but from things like the letter, necklaces and the ring we can assume that she never listened to those people and was somewhat fond of this woman she barely remembered, but the thing with being fond of people you don’t know is that you usually end up idolizing them, and Anne, she died for her daughter’s right to the throne and absolutely regretted it. She was still moved around from the line of succession multiple times and was granted this right because of Catherine Parr and Henry, her efforts meant nothing, and now she’s meeting this kid who has incredibly high standards of who she’s suppsoed to be and she just doesn’t want to live up to them. Anne doesn’t want to be an amazing, kind, smart and perfect woman, she wants to be normal and not be reminded of Henry every second of her life because of a kid. She doesn’t need or want that responsibility because she knows that she’ll fuck it up.

At the end of the day literally all of the next wives also raised Eliza to some level. Jane when Anne had just died, Anna ended up becoming an important role model for her and Edward, Kathryn and her seemed to get along mildly well and Catherine Parr literally took her in (despite having a gross husband), so even with a rocky relationship with Anne Elizabeth would still have meaningful mother figures to take care of her in those AUs.

[kaspenhoward]

Six The Musical Headcanons - Anne Bolyen:

Time for the queen that broke by heart when I read a book about her and Elizabeth 💚💚💚 (Yes I’m talking about your stupidly sad book Tracy Borman)

-Anne’s reaction to reincarnation isn’t one most expected from the aftermath of her beheading, yes she screamed, yes she was terrified, yes she was freaking out she still had a head and heartbeat, but the only thing she cared about after she woke up was Elizabeth, helplessly calling out to her daughter that died more than 400 years ago. Only did she freak out about being beheaded after Catalina begrudgingly and hesitantly calmed Anne about her daughter

-I’m all for ADHD gremlin Anne but I’m also about scary, cunning, powerful, smart, dangerous Anne, I like to believe her stage persona is a sort of coping mechanism but also only half of her personality. Yes Anne is a prank queen, will get into shenanigans, and can be energetic and loud but she also can suddenly and quickly become very quiet and very well thought out, smartly planning things out like she’s playing chess.

-ADHD and PTSD, a deadly combination that initially makes Anne’s adjustment to modern day life suck even more. Actually is the reason Anne is the last to attempt to connect with any of the queens, keeping her distance her trauma with the court and Hery making her wary of trusting anyone and her difficultly to act like “everyone else” making her very hesitant to open up to the queens

-Anne has a whole library in her room fully of every book ever written about Elizabeth that she can get her hands on, and when she can’t sleep thinking about her girl, she reads them imagining her girl was in her arms again

-Anne’s ability to speak multiple languages blends over when she’s distressed, usually spurring large amounts of French that only half the queens can understand

-Anne lost it when she found about what Thomas Seymour did to Elizabeth, it’s because a really tense week in the queen household and takes a really long time for Anne to forgive Cathy

-It’s a queen rule that Anne is not allowed to have more than two coffees per day (and they have to be spread apart)

-Anne when she finally makes amends with everyone, becomes closest with the 4th and 6th queens finding enjoyment in being able to match Anna’s energy and Cathy’s intellect

-Surprisingly, if Anne isn’t the one who created the problem, she usually is the go to for fixing a problem (especially if said queen doesn’t want Catalina or Jane to know) her intelligence being able to find quick and efficient solutions to most problems

- As I have stated in my Jane Seymour Addition, Shipping the queens doesn’t sound particularly right after all they’ve been through and the healing they need but.. Bi (and I say every character I like is Ace so also ace)

-Cathy and Anne love having “book races” seeing who can dive into and compete novels at the faster rate, these usually becoming all day consuming events in the household , Anna and Kat are usually there as refs to make sure neither cheats, with specific preplanned questions to guarantee evidence of the book actually being finished.

-Anne’s a epic smooth talker at getting out of situations

-Anne after a nightmare once mistakes Kat in the dark for a teenage Elizabeth until she goes back to sleep. Kat couldn’t have the will to break Anne’s hope so she played along. No other queen in the household had the heart to break her heart either so they let Anne hope a bit before she connected the dots

-Like both her cousins and basically all the queens in the household, she despises yelling, it being all too familiar to Henry

-She has a dartboard on her wall with a picture of Henry’s portrait always stapled to it, frequently having to replace it as it open to ang queen in the household

-It’s her and Kat who come up with the idea for a musical when Anne complains how all her smarts have been cleared from history to remember, Kat shoots the idea and the two draft a plan. and convince the queens with Kat’s puppy dog eyes and a powerpoint

-She’s is not a coffee or tea person she’s just more of a, “if it’s a warm drink it works kind of person” usually just having what’s easiest, especially after the ban after the coffee incident where she drank 5 and somehow with that power managed to set Jane’s Kitchen on fire (first time they all saw Jane cry) and broke the couch

-Anne like Jane is very maternal, although it’s more in moments than constant, her protectiveness spanning for all the queens (even Catalina). Once a jerk tried to hit on Catalina (which clearly put the eldest queen at an unease) on the streets and Anne lost it, shoving the guy and screaming at him. The queens know they never have to worry when Anne is around.

[sweetgentlelady]

Hello!

This new account of mine is dedicated to Queen Jane Seymour and it's also a independent roleplay account. I'd love to roleplay with you. Don't hesitate to ask or say something. <3

I'm Jane Seymour, King Henry VIII's third wife and mother to King Edward VI.

[annabolinas]

Anne of the Thousand Days Review: Part 2

Alright, here's part 2! Spoiler alert but this movie has some shockingly regressive views about women... no, not just by the male characters in it.

Absurdities only mount as Henry visits Anne in person in her Tower cell and offers to let her live and have custody of Elizabeth if she agrees to an annulment. Anne utterly refuses; while this is completely the opposite of what the real Anne did, this is an understandable deviation, as it is more straightforwardly heroic. Anne lying that she committed adultery with “half your court”, though, is not only baffling, but an insult to the real Anne’s memory. I know that sounds harsh, but bear with me. In the movie, Anne seems to fling this lie at Henry to wound his fragile masculinity, as seen in her remark that he should “look, for the rest of your life, at every man that ever knew me and wonder if I didn’t find them a better man than you!” But Anne shifts far too rapidly from crying out at her trial, “They were innocent as I am innocent! Any man, no matter who he is, who says the contrary, is a liar!”, to freely lying and stating that she’s an adulteress. There’s no buildup, no rhyme or reason that the audience can see as to why she would do such a thing. Moreover, the real Anne never confessed to adultery, twice swearing on the Eucharist that she was innocent of all charges. Anne of the Thousand Days’ portrayal of its Anne as flippantly and falsely confessing to adultery and incest undermines her real-life courage and bravery in maintaining the truth until the end, even on peril of her soul’s damnation. It’s incredibly disrespectful, to say the least.

Above all, the movie fails on an emotional level. Not only does it sag in the middle with its pacing and excitement, but it fails to create a compelling or believable relationship between Anne and Henry, the movie’s two leads. The marketing for this movie played up its romantic aspects, even if it is really more reminiscent of a boss sexually harassing young female interns; its poster reads, ‘He was King. She was barely 18. And in their thousand days they played out the most passionate and shocking love story in history!” However, the movie fails to convince audiences of a core part of its story - the romance, let alone the believability of Henry and Anne’s relationship. There are usually two ways adaptations go with Henry and Anne’s relationship. They either have Henry and Anne, after some point, have a genuinely loving relationship until it goes horribly wrong (e.g.  The Tudors, Blood, Sex, & Royalty) or portray Anne as stringing Henry along to win a crown (e.g. Henry VIII and His Six Wives (1972), The Other Boleyn Girl, Wolf Hall to an extent). Anne of the Thousand Days takes a third choice and goes the route of portraying Henry as sexually harassing an initially quite unwilling Anne. Henry’s attraction to Anne is never explained, as in the first scene (chronologically), he’s drawn to her before she says a word, even ordering Wolsey to break her romance with Percy. Why? Is it just because he wants her in his bed? After all, Henry declares at one point that he’s never been refused by a woman; maybe he finds the challenge exhilarating. But if so, why does he remain fixated with her after she insults his words and poetry, even though he says there’s no better way to end his interest than by doing that? Indeed, Anne later says that Henry wants to know whether she’s guilty because “that would touch your manhood and your pride”, indicating that he is touchy about such subjects. Apparently, though, he’s not sensitive enough to abandon Anne after she blasts every part of his personality at the start of their courtship. Why does he still try to woo her for six years, throughout which Henry admits that “Not once have you said, ‘I love you’”? To be clear, it’s not an impossible scenario, but it is perhaps the farthest thing from romance imaginable.

In other words, what are we supposed to think of Henry and Anne’s relationship? Far from being a passionate romance turned toxic, Anne of the Thousand Days portrays a toxic relationship driven by lust on Henry’s part and ambition on Anne’s part, a relationship where supposedly, they only love each other for one day. Such a characterization of any relationship, let alone the fascinating and complex one of the real Henry and Anne, would be too reductive. Henry starting to hate Anne immediately after she falls for him not only is too simplistic for viewers, but not even supported by the movie. Henry continues to love Anne and behave affectionately towards her after they sleep together until she gives birth to Elizabeth, meaning there are at least nine months of mutual love between them in the movie’s timeline! 

Even the ending of Anne of the Thousand Days, despite its seemingly-empowering voiceover of Anne narrating how Elizabeth will be a great queen, is hampered by an unwillingness to face the full tragedy of her death. In real life, Anne was at most 35 when she was beheaded on false charges, and in the timeline of the movie, she’s around 29, following the 1507 birth date. Anne’s death is presented as poignant, as she remarks on the May flowers growing just as she did on her coronation day. But the absence of her execution speech, in what I can only assume is an attempt to highlight its somber brutality, is in fact borderline disrespectful to the real woman. While unlike Anne Boleyn (2021), this film does not purport to present Anne’s side of the story through a feminist lens, it is still galling that in place of the real Anne’s words, the writers inserted a fictitious monologue about Elizabeth’s greatness, which the real Anne could never have known! The real Anne Boleyn was a highly intelligent, ambitious, and reform-minded queen executed by her husband on false charges. Not only was her death, along with the deaths of the five men accused with her (never mentioned in the film!) a grave miscarriage of justice, but it was a tragedy. Much of its tragic nature derives from the fact that Anne left her toddler daughter, as far as she knew, dependent on the whims of her father and a bastard. There is no way she could have known, that anyone could have known, that Elizabeth would become queen. Anne of the Thousand Days giving Anne this knowledge makes sense out of a senseless, brutal demise, almost implying that there was a silver lining to Anne’s death because her daughter became queen.

It once again defines a woman by her reproductive history, and the film follows in a long tradition of claiming Anne’s real worth lay in her womb and the great queen it produced, her tragic downfall notwithstanding. Despite its ostensible focus on Anne Boleyn, the movie, like so many films then before and since, fails to understand - arguably, does not try to understand - historical women like Anne on their own terms. Women, in this mindset, must always be defined by their relation to a man or an exceptional woman. It’s not enough that Anne was an exceptional woman in her own right, that women are inherently important on their own, not by virtue of their family. Anne of the Thousand Days, at a time when cinema was pioneering in so many ways, is rigidly traditional in its views of women. Dramatic license with history needs to both fulfill a satisfying dramatic aim and at least be in contact with the facts; Anne of the Thousand Days’ portrayal of its titular queen’s death fails on both counts.

Needless to say, I didn’t like this movie. Its costumes, sumptuous pageantry, and strong performances from Genevieve Bujold as Anne, Anthony Quayle as Wolsey, and John Colicos as Cromwell, cannot make up for the fact that the rest of the film’s parts are either mediocre or simply bad. Why then do so many people think fondly not just of Genevieve Bujold’s Anne, but also this movie? Part of it must be nostalgia - it would have gained a special place in the hearts of Tudor fans who grew up in 1969 and the following decade. Its accessibility for purchase on platforms like Amazon Prime, Apple TV, and Youtube, also meant it gained more popularity than the far superior 1970 BBC miniseries The Six Wives of Henry VIII, which is only available on DVD and the platform Britbox. But I’ve argued in this review that Anne of the Thousand Days is just as inaccurate as more scorned depictions like The Tudors; in fact, I firmly believe that on the whole, Anne of the Thousand Days has more inaccuracies in its plot and characterization than The Tudors! Why, then, in spite of its major inaccuracies, does Anne of the Thousand Days retain a reputation for authenticity? 

The fact Jonathan Rhys Meyers looks nothing like Henry VIII in The Tudors and has little of the real king’s imposing majesty is surely part of it. More to the point, though, The Tudors’ propensity towards sex and nudity in its first two seasons meant it seemed louche and vulgar compared to the sober and slow-paced Anne of the Thousand Days. If Natalie Dormer’s Anne was criminally overlooked by critics because of her show’s disreputable appearance, then the opposite has occurred with this movie. Genevieve Bujold’s great performance has managed to elevate a quite mediocre and often horribly reductive movie into the hallowed halls of the Period Drama Pantheon. It’s time for a broader reappraisal of this movie: one which dethrones it for good.

[schnitzelsemmerl]

i never do six the musical headcanons but here are some very specific headcanons i have

- aragon has done some weird ass bs with cleves before on accident and they promised to never talk about it again

"hey lina,, what's this picture of you driving away from the police in berlin??" "WE DONT TALK ABOUT THAT"

- cathy has probably had a car accident bc she's sleep deprived and had to stay the night in jail. it is remembered vividly by everybody

- jane likes to crochet and she likes to look at kids clothes at the thrift store just because she can

"look, this is so cuteeeee :3" "jane, the youngest child we have is 11. no more."

- speaking of. let the kids be happy pleaseeeee

- lizzie (elizabeth i) is definitely honor student and president of multiple school clubs and anne is very proud :3

- kitty and anna are both aroace

- anna has the shittiest music taste ever

"im not giving you the aux cord, cleves. i refuse to listen to smash mouth and rammstein the entire way we're driving"

- parr has cosplayed before

- aragon is a great cook but always uses too much salt (janes favorite flavor is savory), jane always uses too much spice (linas favorite flavor is spicy) and anne is not trusted in the kitchen because she puts way too much spice and salt on everything purposely

- kitty probably gives big sister advice. she's trying :'3

- anna would tell mary (mary i) all the shit lina ever did. she'd also tell lizzie everything anne has done

"so this one time,, your mom jumped her ex-bf....."

[sixaus-meaa]

Six The Musical as Tweets pt58

[lizzzliz]

At supper

Me: Can we just talk about Anne Boleyn for a moment?

Mum slamming her fork down: God damn just one dinner! Please!