#thomas seymour

[isabelleneville]

♕ @dailytudors: TUDOR WEEK 2024 ♕

Day Seven: Favourite Tudor-related Location >> 2/3 - SUDELEY CASTLE After the battle of Bosworth the property was gifted to Henry VII's uncle Jasper Tudor. Sudeley Castle was later granted to Thomas Seymour on his ascension as Baron Sudeley during the reign of Edward VI, Thomas married the late King's widow Catherine Parr and it was to be her last home where her daughter was born. Catherine died of childbirth complications while residing at the castle and was later buried in the castle's church and is the only English Queen to be buried at a private residence. Her stepdaughter Elizabeth I is said to have celebrated the defeat of the Spanish Armada at the castle.

[sixaus-meaa]

Six The Musical as Tweets pt49

[edwardslovelyelizabeth]

Firebrand: A Novel by Elizabeth Fremantle

«She unclasps her mother’s cross, folding it into a handkerchief, stashing it in her box of keepsakes. She can no longer bear to feel it against her skin. It reminds her too much of what she has given up. Those dead Queens cluster about her, her thoughts running untrammeled. How will she survive this? God is punishing her—he has seen her sins»

[elizabethan-memes]

When you step back and look at Thomas Seymour's life, it's an endless stream of privileges.

He was handsome, rich, able-bodied, well-connected, well-travelled, MALE. His sister was Queen. His brother was Lord Protector. He had an amazing wife. He had beautiful homes to live in.

To put into perspective just how privileged he was as Lord Admiral: the sailors on the Mary Rose have scars on their bones from childhood malnutrition. I'm not blaming him for the malnutrition, I'm saying he was lucky.

Thomas Seymour had everything. He could have led a charmed life. He could have mentored princesses.

What, at the end of the day, did he do with all his privileges? What could a better man, or a woman, have done with the privileges Thomas Seymour wasted?

[bforbetterthanyou]

Bonus points if you elaborate on your answer!

[dkmbookworm]

I have such a complicated relationship with Six: The Musical, at times. While it is very entertaining and a fun little forray/introduction to Tudor history with all of the songs and the different musical styles and artists they pull from for the queens

At the same time some of its feminist messaging is kind of undercut by the way they tell these stories. The theme of this musical is 1. There is no use in comparing the suffering of these women or any women in abusive relationships and 2. It is wrong to define them solely by their relationship to Henry as they are more than just the horrible things that happened to them. They were political figures in their own rights with their own accomplishments

However, this feels lost because the only accomplishment’s we learn about are Catherine Parr’s, and when we get to the final song, we don’t hear about the other queens, but instead we go into a what-if scenario where they had no attachment to Henry

And beyond that, we don’t gain a new understanding of the queens aside from the last two. Katherine Howard reveals how she wasn’t just some flirt or cheater, she was a victim of serial abuse throughout her very short life. We learn what Catherine Parr did outside of Henry.

However, there’s also something troubling about how her song ignores the fact her husband, Thomas Seymour, was actively grooming Elizabeth Tudor, her stepdaughter.

And then you get to Anne Boleyn where it also misrepresents her history because Henry’s accusations against her were completely fabricated in order to justify her murder. Especially considering they also accused her of sleeping with her own brother. Not only that but her relationship with Elizabeth is completely erased outside of a few references and any discussion of motherhood is limited to Jane Seymour, who I argue isn’t really expanded upon beyond what she is largely known for.

To say the least if how Anne of Cleves, while she does get out of this easier, they spread around try myth that she was rejected for being unattractive when it was that Henry had embarrassed himself in front of her with a ridiculous stunt before they were married. And going further into this, i wish the musical could have added the element that several of these women had interacted in their lives, had even started out as ladies in waiting. And you could have explored their relationships. Like you have Anne of cleves with Katherine Howard and how they knew each other in court. You have several of the queens relationships with Mary and Elizabeth, and even Edward before he died.

Idk if I’m putting unfair expectations on the musical or maybe even that this wasn’t the creators intention and thus I shouldn’t be expecting them to do what I think should be included. But I guess leave your thoughts on this if any of you come across it

[enyoalkis]

You mean to tell me... Diaval from Maleficent is Thomas Seymour in Firebrand?!

[queencatherineparr]

30th of August 1548 - Mary Seymour, only child of Catherine Parr, Queen Dowager of England and her husband Thomas Seymour, Baron Seymour of Sudeley is born at Sudeley Castle. 

Mary was to be Catherine’s first and only child out of her four marriages. She is assumed to be named after Catherine’s royal step daughter The Lady Mary. Mary was also born the step sister of  King Edward VI by her mother and the cousin of the King through her father. 

[eobard-thawne]

"I don't want your promise. I don't need it. Perhaps no one will understand my marriage to you. But I speak to you, and you answer. I ask you to do things. Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't... but you do at least listen. To my thoughts, to my decisions. As if I were a person." CATHERINE PARR IN BECOMING ELIZABETH (2022)

[edwardseymour]

“[Jane] supervised the preparations of the official announcements of the birth from her bed. It was traditional for the queen to announce the birth herself […] Jane was also expected to play a very public role in the christening of her son and, on 15 October, she was wrapped by her attendants in velvet and furs to guard against the cold and carried to the christening on a special sofa prepared for the occasion. By convention, neither Henry nor Jane attended the christening and they waited in an anti chamber as the baby was carried away in a grand procession. Jane would also been glad of the prominence given to Mary and to members of her family, and Mary stood as godparent with the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Duke of Norfolk. Jane’s kinsman, Sir Francis Bryan, also had a prominent role as one of the gentlemen dressed in aprons and holding towels as they took charge of the font. Edward Seymour was prominently placed, carrying the four-year-old Princess Elizabeth, who made a rare visit to court. The gentlemen in the procession walked in pairs, carrying unlit torches before them. The children and ministers of the king’s chapel followed. The knights, chaplains and other members of the nobility also walked in pairs. Following them, the prince was brought, carried carefully by the Marchioness of Exeter and assisted by her husband and the Duke of Suffolk. Jane’s son was dressed in a great robe with a long train borne by Lord William Howard and, over the prince’s head, a canopy was held by a number of gentlemen, including Thomas Seymour. Jane felt proud as she watched the procession go by and she and Henry would have talked quietly about their son and their hopes for the future as they waited for the procession to return.”

— Elizabeth Norton, Jane Seymour

[sixaus-meaa]

Six The Musical as Tweets pt6

[abushelandablog]

If i had a nickel for everytime they cast a hot actor as lord thomas seymour id have exactly two nickels which isnt a lot but its weird that it happened twice

[elizabethan-memes]

For the last goddamn time, it was NOT a 'youthful flirtation'.

If it was a 'youthful flirtation', then it's a 'boxing match' when i sock you in the jaw.

which i will.

[historicconfessions]

[notso-daily-six-writing]

High school au

Jane, on a call with Cathy bc Thomas cheated on her.

Jane: he broke your heart, do I need to break his face.

Cathy: please don’t

Jane: *marching to Thomas’s room*

Cathy : JANE-

Meanwhile,

Thomas: why do I hear boss music?

[little-desi-historian]

Tudor Week 2024: favourite Tudor couple

Catherine Parr/Thomas Seymour.

@dailytudors