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“In 1549 AD Robert Kett yeoman farmer of Wymondham was executed by hanging in this Castle after the defeat of the Norfolk Rebellion of which he was leader. In 1949 AD – four hundred years later – this Memorial was placed here by the citizens of Norwich in reparation and honour to a notable and courageous leader in the long struggle of the common people of England to escape from a servile life into the freedom of just conditions” - Norwich Castle Plaque

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the other historical figures in this show WISH they had what my guy robert kett had.

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if i had a nickel for every archbishop of canterbury guilty of treason and accused of heresy during the reign of mary i, i'd only have two nickels, but it's weird that it happened twice

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How much responsibility should Jane Seymour bear for the downfall of Anne Boleyn? It seems that most historians believe that Henry VIII truly believed that Anne had an affair, so this has little to do with Jane

✨ terfs/zionists fuck off ✨

for anne's downfall? jane was absolutely responsible; "jane was no meek observer but an active participant in the strategy that was formulated to win the king for her" (norton); “it is therefore not unthinkable that she may herself have been an active participant in the events that made her queen” (loach). but she was only responsible in part — and it's debatable as to how large a part. personally, i think her personal active involvement has been understated (i don't agree that she was wholly forced into it by henry/her family), while her significance has been overstated (i think henry and cromwell could have and would have removed anne, without jane).

jane had to have been willing to actively participate in the plot to court the king’s attention, apparently she was "quite firm" in refusing henry's advances on the condition of marriage, and chapuys’ language is interesting when reporting that people were angry at the treatment of anne: “it will not pacify the world when it is known what has passed and is passing between him and mrs. jane semel”. has and is passing: so jane was at least seen to be actively courting henry during anne’s fall. however, we don't know how she felt about henry's interest in her, and i do think it’s telling that her relationship with henry differed from anne’s: months to anne’s years. anne sent henry a jewelled ship pendant, loaded with poignant symbolism, possibly as an acceptance of proposal given its value… but we have no evidence of such gestures from jane.

this leads me to conclude that however involved jane was, she was less involved than anne had been — but the stakes were arguably higher (i say arguably because supplanting catherine came with being excommunicated and the threat of invasion, supplanting anne came with ‘just’ killing six people. that’s not really a comparison i want to get into). personally, i see it as probably a similar situation as with henry’s attempts to annul his marriage to catherine of aragon and his courtship of anne boleyn — “initially and for a long time they were quite separate” (ives). i don’t think he courted jane to ‘replace’ anne, but as things fell into place, jane adapted. opportunism, absolutely, but probably not pre-meditated.

so responsible for the execution of six people, however? i think it's fair to say that jane was almost not responsible at all. i say almost, because she still went ahead and married henry, and didn't intercede on anne's behalf — but i also think it's extremely stupid to expect jane to have done that. if we accept that jane’s rise was rapid; if we accept that her relationship with henry was built on less-sturdy foundations than anne’s had been; if we accept that jane was of lower social standing; if we accept that anne’s fall was rapid… we have to accept that jane, opportunistic and ambitious and ultimately powerless, was not in a position to stand on principles that we don’t even know if she had.

as i've said before, i think it's impossible to believe that jane seymour could have anticipated anne would be killed, and once it reached that point, she was in pretty deep. nevertheless, the evidence that survives does indicate who was actively involved in getting anne up onto that scaffold; jane seymour is not one of them.

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Barry's Photography

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capitalism is a fucking jokeeeeeee

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peak jane x anne (jan?) would be the plot of the movie blackswan but it's anne's downfall and last days

op you're getting it!!!!!

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You’re in your 20s saying seggs and unalive… Maybe worry about that

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History 5 meme → 5 historical relationships : Henry VIII and Katherine of Aragon, married on  11th June 1509, annuled in 1533  (5/5)

tagged by my darling @eireneofathens, here’s hers.

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one wonders when reality set in for jane in may 1536. i don’t think it’s reasonable to assume she plotted to have anne killed but she certainly actively, “firmly” pursued ousting anne… and at some point she had to have realised two things: 1) that meant killing anne, and five men alongside her, for charges she had to have known were false, and 2) that anne never had so much public sympathy as she had in the tower.

i imagine it must have been very easy to continue down the path of supplanting anne when the understanding (or, at least, expectation) was that anne as queen was both invalid and unwanted — that “his marriage [to anne] is detested by the people, and none consider it lawful” as her circle put it — after all, the women of london apparently were willing to lynch anne, years prior. but presumably there must have been a point where jane became aware of the increasing discontent towards the treatment of anne: “there are some who murmur at the mode of procedure against her [anne] and the others […] it will not pacify the world when it is known what has passed and is passing between him and mrs. jane semel”. suddenly that dissent that jane may well have been so ready to exploit was turned on her for the first time, to the extent of there being a “ballad of great derision” against henry/jane. would it have been so easy, then?

and, well, i’m not sure there was necessarily a fear that letting anne live represented a potential threat in the same way catherine of aragon had been… but it must have crossed jane’s mind at some point while she waited for anne to die that the prospect of an alive and exiled anne was untenable for jane’s own legitimacy. there must have been a point where public sympathy became a factor worth considering in a way it hadn’t before — especially since jane had no international support (anne had hardly any, either, but not nothing), her family didn’t have the same standing as the boleyns, and henry had made it clear that she held little sway with him in the way anne was at least seen to have.

i suppose the question becomes one of which came first? did jane realise the consequences anne’s execution would have on her own popularity and reputation once it was too late to back out… or did she anticipate sympathy for anne and thus reconcile herself to anne’s execution as necessary to safeguard against her and her future children’s legitimacy? jane had once told henry “she had no greater riches in the world than her honour, which she would not injure for a thousand deaths”. maybe not a thousand… but in the end it seems she was willing to settle on the price of six.

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This vivid yellow and black costume was very likely inspired by the extant “Prunkkleid” of Kurfürst (prince-elector) Moritz of Saxony (1521-1553) held at the Dresden Armory. The robe was restored via the Swiss Abegg Foundation over a period of seven years before it was exhibited to the public again in 2010.   The costume was made by Joanna Eatwell and her team for Damian Lewis as King Henry VIII in the 2015 miniseries 𝑾𝒐𝒍𝒇 𝑯𝒂𝒍𝒍, were he dressed in yellow alongside his new wife Anne Boleyn upon the announcement of the death of Katharine of Aragon.   The costume was spotted again in 2021 on Mark Stanley as King Henry VIII in 𝑨𝒏𝒏𝒆 𝑩𝒐𝒍𝒆𝒚𝒏.   Find out where else this costume has been spotted, and learn more about the Prnkkleid at Bit.ly/TudEliz197  

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that’s Her. to me.

idk what it is about katherine parr but the compromised, shameful synth tracks coming from gay men in 1980s britain.... that's Her, to me.

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idk what it is about katherine parr but the compromised, shameful synth tracks coming from gay men in 1980s britain.... that's Her, to me.

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Portrait of Queen Anne of Austria by Sofonisba Anguissola (1573)

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anne boleyn + real quotes

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treating "historians" not only as this unified group but also as a coherent socio-political entity w unified ideas, ideals, goals and methods is actually the reddest possible flag. thats a tell-tale sign that this person doesnt know what the fuck theyre talking about. capital h Historians arent lying to u. capital h Historians arent hiding stuff from u, they dont want u to believe anything, bc Historians isnt an organization or a political affiliation. u know the old saying, 2 jews, 3 opinions? historians r like that too