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walkingstackofbooks · 8 months
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DS9's Valiant (6x22) always makes me think of AOS, and it drives me nuts.
Valiant is such a poignant episode, and you can see all the time how young the crew are. They all feel like they are play-acting as senior officers, none of it feels genuine and just a little uncanny. And in the end it doesn't work out for them, because they are cadets, with limited experience and caught up in the personality cult of Watters. (I also can't separate this coda from the episode; it's perfect.)
Jim's crew is also made up of primarily cadets, and I guess in fairness the stakes are higher, they are the only ship between Nero and Earth? But even if his field promotion was good for a day, I think Valiant really highlights the difference between knowing how to command a ship - Watters was capable - and knowing what you should command the ship to do.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, if Jim didn't have his destiny as James T. Kirk written for him, if he wasn't protected by plot armour, there wouldn't be any difference between him and Watters.
Gah, words are messy and there is more to this than I can tease out of my brain right now. But anyway: thoughts?
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eggthedyke · 4 months
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Ds9 s6e22, Valiant
The detail of Red Squad being in the old uniforms? *chefs kiss*
The way it immediately visually tells us their mission, their actions, have not been updated since several critical things have happened.
They are not in sync with what’s happening in the universe around them, they are not in line with current Star Fleet.
And then the added detail of the special pin, the special insignia on the wall.
And when faced with a reality check? Instead of quoting Star Fleet ideals? They quote Red Squad excellence.
Because they were children that were told they were above the average Star Fleet officer, they forget they are still supposed to be a Part of Star Fleet, report to it, uphold its ideals, maintain its chain of command.
And the uniforms and the pins are the perfect visual cues that they have forgotten all that. That their mission will fail. That they weren’t ready.
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usstrekart · 10 months
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"Valiant" (S06E22, Stardate 51825.4) gives Nog and Jake a real opportunity to explore the philosophical differences of command, loyalty and humanity. Red Squad never comes off as a great idea in the world of DS9, and there are several leaps I have issues with taking. But I like where Nog lands in the end.
My poster was conceived before I began the episode. The Red Squad icon shattered. I couldn't think of a better way to convey the sense of brokenness the story gets across in the end.
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old-type-40 · 3 months
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I can understand how Janeway and Starfleet command might not want the new Protostar to go to waste. But did they forget what happened the last time a Starfleet vessel was under the command of a crew of cadets?
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Don't get me wrong. I enjoyed Prodigy. But there is a bit of disconnect from reality when fiction portrays young adults as able to overcome very deadly situations time after time.
And on an unrelated note, I was glad in season 2 that there was a bit of hand waving that the protostar being used for the propulsion was not a normal protostar and had to composed of exotic matter. I wouldn't be surprised if the writers and producers got quite an earful from astrophysicists about the true nature of protostars after season 1.
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I guess I’m a Garak apologist now because, like...
He goes along for a ride on the Defiant worried about his father (doesn’t tell anyone this), has this interaction with a changeling:
Garak: “Got any prisoners of war?”
Changling: “Go fish.  Got any Cardassians left alive in the alpha quadrant?”
Garak: “Yes?”
Changeling: “Lol, not for long.”
And his immediate response is to break into weapons control like “ ( •̀ ω •́ )✧  not if I genocide you first.  Hehe, me and everyone I know is going to die after the first volley of torpedoes is launched.” and I think that’s an understandable reaction. 
Now, he gets caught, but I guess Sisko wasn’t that mad because his only consequences were being sent to his room (confined to quarters). 
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goabstract · 2 years
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Nog grew from some kid in ds9 to one of the characters whose episodes are used to carry the heaviest messages.
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motsimages · 2 years
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So the Federation has Starfleet, which is not like the military but it totally is like the military. And Starfleet has a group of teenagers who are made believe they better and given extras to participate in secret missions and special trainings. Teenagers.
They even prepared and participated in a coup d'état on Earth, the paradise, where there are no problems and everyone lives happy.
So basically, Starfleet has a team that is scaringly similar to the Jem'Hadar but instead of white, they are given a massive power high. And it is so high, that even Nog, who has lived in DS9 his whole life, who has served under Captain Sisko in real battle, who was given a mission to carry out by himself to Ferenginar, felt so important to be upgraded by a made-believe teenager captain that he fell right into it.
When he already was a couple of years older than anyone in that ship and an Ensign, so he already had an official higher rank than any of the kids of that ship. But he wanted to be part of it so bad when he was a cadet to "fit in" and "be respected" that he still bought it blindly.
Again, this is allowed and encouraged by Starfleet. The acting teenage captain was an addict also because there was a supply on board (or maybe it was replicated, but still).
The Federation doesn't seem to see anything wrong with all this.
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per1w1nkl3 · 2 months
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wait people don't like Valiant (6x22)???? it's such a tragic episode that imo fits perfectly in with everything ds9 has done so far.
of course they don't say it outright but the real message anyone should take from that situation is that starfleet is still a military organization and it still sucks. "watters was a great man but a bad captain" actually. he was barely a man and his and his crew's story is really a tragedy.
a ship of teenagers/very (very) young adults playing pretend in a very real very dangerous situation is uncanny as it is, but this all started because they were given special treatment, they were made to believe they were better. of course the twenty (maybe? hopefully?) year old captain takes stimulants as if they were candies! he was expected (and so expected himself) to be the best there is, to be at the same level as an experienced commander! and his crew was held (and held themselves) at the same impossible standard. everything that follows makes perfect sense, how else were they supposed to act when this is what they've always been taught?
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data2364 · 2 years
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Cirroc Lofton (Jake Sisko) and Aron Eisenberg (Nog) 1998 in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine "Valiant“
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andtheirmoonlight · 11 months
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Just in case: TNG 5x19 The First Duty and 7x15 Lower Decks; and also maybe DS9 6x22 Valiant. Rewatch time!
I appreciate that the show called Lower Decks is finally referencing the episode of the same name. After all, it was the episode that inspired the premise of the show.
But also, here goes the widespread 'headcanon' about Locarno being Paris' fake name which he was using during his academy years so that no one would know his dad was an admiral. :-\
There was this info going around that Voy writers didn't want to pay royalties to the writers of The First Duty for every episode of Voyager, so they just snatched the character, slightly rewrote the backstory to make Paris more 'redeemable' and 'sympathetic' than Locarno, and hired the same actor. Although I've never seen a confirmation of this rumor (point me to it if it's out there?), it sounds plausible. It sounds much more plausible to me now that I've learned more about the US show business and how studio executives treat writers, and about the US in general. I still remember when I was like, 'waaait but wouldn't that be illegal and plagiarism? it can't be true!' *sigh* *pats bebby me on the head*
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spacefinch · 1 year
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A list of Star Trek episode titles that are one word each:
TOS:
Miri
Arena
Catspaw
Metamorphosis
Obsession
TNG:
Justice
Haven
Datalore
Symbiosis
Conspiracy
Contagion
Manhunt
Evolution
Allegiance
Sarek
Family
Brothers
Legacy
Reunion
Clues
Qpid
Redemption
Darmok
Disaster
Unification
Violations
Conundrum
Ethics
Relics
Schisms
Rascals
Aquiel
Tapestry
Birthright
Lessons
Suspicions
Timescape
Decent
Liaisons
Interface
Gambit
Phantasms
Attached
Inheritance
Parallels
Homeward
Masks
Genesis
Firstborn
Bloodlines
Emergence
DS9:
Babel
Dax
Vortex
Progress
Duet
Cardassians
Melora
Sanctuary
Rivals
Whispers
Paradise
Shadowplay
Crossover
Tribunal
Equilibrium
Meridian
Defiant
Destiny
Visionary
Explorers
Shakaar
Facets
Indiscretion
Rejoined
Crossfire
Accession
Rapture
Resurrection
Waltz
Inquisition
Valiant
Afterimage
Chrysalis
Covenant
Chimera
Penumbra
Voyager:
Caretaker
Parallax
Phage
Emanations
Cathexis
Faces
Jetrel
Initiations
Projections
Elogium
Twisted
Parturition
Tattoo
Maneuvers
Resistance
Prototype
Alliances
Threshold
Meld
Dreadnought
Lifesigns
Investigations
Deadlock
Innocence
Tuvix
Resolutions
Basics
Flashbacks
Remember
Warlord
Macrocosm
Coda
Unity
Darkling
Rise!
Displaced
Scorpion
Nemesis
Revulsion
Hunters
Prey
Retrospect
Unforgettable
Demon
One
Night
Drone
Timeless
Counterpoint
Gravity
Bliss
Juggernaut
Relativity
Warhead
Equinox
Alice
Riddles
Pathfinder
Virtuoso
Memorial
Tsunkatse
Collective
Fury
Imperfection
Drive
Repression
Nightingale
Shattered
Lineage
Repentance
Prophecy
Workforce
Q2
Homestead
Endgame
Enterprise
Unexpected
Civilization
Fusion
Acquisition
Oasis
Detained
Minefield
Marauders
Singularity
Dawn
Stigma
Canamar
Judgement
Horizon
Cogenitor
Regeneration
Bounty
Anomaly
Extinction
Rajiin
Impulse
Exile
Twilight
Similitude
Stratagem
Harbinger
Hatchery
Damage
Home
Borderland
Awakening
Kir’Shara
Daedalus
United
Affliction
Divergence
Bound
Demons
Discovery
Lethe
Brother
Scavengers
Su’Kal
Anomaly
Rubicon
Rosetta
Lower Decks
Envoys
Veritas
Grounded
Reflections
The Animated Series
Yesteryear
Bem
Albatross
Short Treks
Calypso
Runaway
Picard
Remembrance
Nepenthe
Penance
Assimilation
Watcher
Monsters
Mercy
Farewell
Disengage
Imposters
Dominion
Surrender
Võx
Strange New Worlds (so far)
Charades
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deeplovelydark · 2 months
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one of the very first things bashir says is that he's excited to do real 'frontier medicine' on ds9 and kira rightfully gives him a piece of her mind. in the quickening bashir has a bit of a breakdown when he's not able to find a cure for a plague: he chastises himself for the arrogance of thinking that he could find a cure and that there's probably none. it takes jadzia to remind him that it's even more arrogant to think that because bashir couldn't find it no one can. so julian stays on the planet and develops a vaccine that would cure the children of the locals but not the locals themselves. in ...nor the battle to the strong jake is supposed to write an article about bashir when julian starts his usual self-congratulatory routine boring jake to death and making him wish there were some emergency because writing about doctors being valiant in the face of death and danger is what's really interesting for a writer. and then jake actually ends up in a hospital in the middle of a war zone and he helps the doctors there and then leaves bashir alone under shelling and loses his temper and throws up and his one act of courage is also an impulsive act of self-preservation carried out on adrenaline and fear. so he realizes that heroism and war and disasters are not all that fun, yk? that he was not what he expected himself to be. that bashir was a valiant doctor but that was not an inspiring sight but a horrible situation that tests people and reveals some as capable of cowardice and others of bravery and that everyone will eventually be both.
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flippyspoon · 8 months
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re: DS9 "Valiant" s6e22
AAAAH FRUSTRATING!
So in this episode Jake and Nog end up on this ship under the command of a bunch of basically teenagers, Starfleet cadets from Red Squad, this elite 'best of the best" group from Academy except now they've ended up with their own ship in the middle of the war with the Dominion.
And the idea of the episode is that this squad of kids got cocky and thought they could do anything particularly the super young captain. But spoilers the captain makes the wrong move and gets everyone killed.
BUT IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABOUT THAT!
It should have been the tragedy of kids ending up fighting their parent's wars (think the kids being handed swords in Helms Deep) -it's kinda sad the end of the episode seems to blame a captain who can't be more than 19 or 20 and made terrible mistakes but was trying to do his duty in WAR AND he had no contact with any other ships even?? Harsh!
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thegeminisage · 7 days
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star trek update time! i'm sooo behind. monday we did voy's "unforgettable" and ds9's "the reckoning," tuesday we did voy's "living witness" and ds9's "valiant," and thursday we attempted to do ds9's "profit and lace" and skipped it just as we hit the credits, and then did instead did ds9's "time's orphan" and "the sound of her voice," and finally earlier today i finished "rpfot and lace" on 2x speed to get it over with as quickly as possible.
unforgettable (voy):
ironically an entirely forgettable episode
look, not to be a fucking shipper about it, but i don't know why they have this thing where janeway and chakotay both are and aren't in a romantic relationship and then every once in awhile have him run off with a lady. like, he has this big scene with her about mark and it's romantic but then he's also doing this? and then he also ends up with seven?? it's very like. will and deanna in tng but their situation was more clear-cut - they're exes who enjoy each other's company and they always ask before dating someone else or whatever. this is so weird. this whole thing is weird. voyager would be so good if it could just get its act together
i feel kind of bad for this lady, or i would if i cared, which i largely felt unable to do, because we shit talked her the whole episode. "yes captain give her access to this, to that." we were SO SURE this was another case of chakotay's horrible character judgment that we were waiting for her to stab him in the back the entire time
if at the end he forgets her and she forgets him what was the point? was it supposed to be poignant? because of the shipweirdness and the suspicion of her character i just couldn't get invested. it is a nice touch that he recorded it on paper though i guess
the reckoning (ds9):
SPEAKING OF WEIRD EPISODES.
let's get this out of the way. i don't like whatever lovey-dovey thing was happening between kira and odo. "i love watching you eat you do it with such gusto"? it's like theyre still being replaced with the pod people from his way. that face touch i have seen in gifs before and i was really excited to get to it but the dialogue + the aftershocks of his way made it a mixed bag for me. but i like watching you eat thing??? get real. who wrote this
i did like that he respected her wishes re: would she let a prophet jump her bones to fight a big armageddon battle. too bad he didn't do that in his way. i liked his talk with worf about it too :( they love their women :(
i was kind of hoping the pah wraith would either be someone hot or someone it would be fun to watch get beat up (winn<3). jake was unexpected, but it was cool that he was unexpected. really gave sisko some juicy stuff to work with
speaking of winn...i love the analysis of her character that she's jealous of sisko because he's closer to the prophets and has stronger faith or whatever. she is a bitter old crone i HAAAAATE HERRRRR
the cgi battle was weird. the sudden lore dump was weird. looked cool though!
living witness (voy):
i liked this one!!! emh episodes can be hit or miss but this one was really good i thought
did not like the part where he offered to off himself and let misinformation win if it would keep the peace or whatever but the rest was solid
it's weird to think he basically got duplicated into two very real copies not unlike john crichton and one of them will never see the crew again and might not even find out if they ever got home...and then when he does find out he'll realize they got home with like. another him
i cannot believe NONE of those museum artifacts were behind glass though. like that was begging to happen
also lol that one guy who basically did the equivalent of "i have black friends!" like come on...please.
my favorite part of this episode though was the mirrorverse like evil counterparts. evil janeway hot. tuvok smiling hot. android emh??? crazy. the data shoutout. madness. i'm HEARTBROKEN no one has giffed tuvok doing the evil smile. it made my day.
valiant (ds9):
i liked the end of this one but i think the middle really dragged. like we GET it creepy sult ship bad
it was insane how all these people were BABIES. they were so fucking young. and the bad vibes were bad right awayliterally what kind of fucking stanford prison experiment ass episode
although actually, it kinda reminded me of the plot of aos. everybody's at war, the senior officer dies, a bunch of people way too young to be doing those jobs get those jobs. so no one can say aos doesn't have precedent, but the people in aos LOOKED way older than these kids. also possibly maybe it is more realistic if the entire aos crew just gets themselves blown up
unfortunately this episode kinda highlights a problem i've been having with late seasons jakes, which is that now that he's grown up and no longer a cute kid or a teenager coming of age he has almost nothing to do. he's a reporter and sometimes? a fiction writer? but the problem with writers is that they write writers characters as some of the most pretentious assholes on earth. waiting for divine inspiration or some shit. like jake sisko is not chuck shurley. give me a fucking break. THAT SAID, the reporter thing could be interesting - think of how, even today, honest journalism when trying to report on wartime activities, especially war crimes, comes under fire - that could make for some compelling tv, especially because jake's dad is mr take-no-shit himself. they could give jake some substance to really work with if they wanted to. unfortunately most of the time he seems to be just There. rip.
oh i nearly forgot. odo realizing quark is in love with jadzia is such a fun parallel to quark realizing odo loves kira. it's e quark in my mind palace. absolutely 10/10 scene
time's orphan (ds9):
THIS ONE WAS SAAAAD this one made me cry really hard at the end :(
i mean the ending kind of rendered the whole episode pointless (we can't do that because we'd be erasing this molly! and then this molly accidentally erases herself) but it was well-acted enough that i mostly didn't care
also, absolutely charmed at teen molly hoarding the kickballs. we were cracking up during that entire scene. i wanted her to keep taking them sooo bad.
question of the day is if molly was living in isolation for ten years as a feral wildchild how did she get bangs
i did wonder at one point if this was a metaphor for situations in which the disability is so extreme the parents cannot care for the child, but then i went to memory alpha and apparently it was based on the concept of a fucking tng episode where they wanted to write out alexander because they hated him??? my brother in christ YOU PEOPLE are the ones putting children on the enterprise and then you just wind up HATING all of them?? death to the tng writers room i cannot believe this
absolutely gutting when kira was holding the baby she carried and talking about wanting other babies someday and odo was just standing there taking psychic damage. so cruel. so evil. i hope it comes up again <3
speaking of: ODO BEING A REAL ONE AND LETTING THE O'BRIENS GO. king <3
the sound of her voice (ds9):
THIS ONE ALSO A BUMMER???
actually my least favorite thing about this episode is that i got curious to see what this lady looked like in life when she wasn't a wrinkled corpse so i went to look up her actress. from the bottom of my heart the corpse was white and the actress who plays her was black. L for the ds9 team
loved the bit where she pretended to get eaten. she got me too for a second there
her and obrien being like fuck therapists! but you also can't talk to your friends or your wife. so um. therapist necessary evil ig. really funny. you know he had to have that little disclaimer because of deanna too <3
this was another weird episode because i feel like they set up on some discontent w sisko and kassidy and just...didn't follow through? i guess it'll come up later?? but it's also weird that they just like dropped that in there out of nowhere and forgot it halfway through the episode
i thought at the end o'brien was gonna be like someday this war is gonna be voer but instead he was like someday at least one of you is gonna die. bad pep talk buddy
idk. it was poignant i guess but man. what a bummer.
that said, the b plot of this was absolutely fantastic. quark trying to interfere with odo and kira's love life in order to do nefarious things: a+. e quark. odo LETTING HIM GET AWAY WITH IT AS A THANKS FOR LISTENING TO HIM WHEN HE WAS MOONING OVER KIRA AND THEN HELPING THEM GET TOGETHER. ALSO A+. E QUARK. e quark is alive and well in my mind palace. i still hate the way odo and kira got together, but they felt totally natural in this episode, especially at the end when they watched quark think he won. 10000/10
profit and lace (ds9):
i wish i did not have eyes
okay, as previously listed, we got as far as the credits before tapping out. watching quark sextort that employee of his really brought me back to season 3 when i hated him genuinely and unironically and i did not enjoy that feeling. that's not his heart. it's character assassination
and anyway i can't stand the grand nagus's voice
potentially the concept of capitalists finding out women also spend money is funny but nearly everything else about this episode was excruciating. the nagus sexually harassing leeta. the nagus being a dick to nog. the sexism from quark which is so tired.
i did kind of enjoy the gay/crossdressing stuff at the end ESPECIALLY the gay kiss because it was shocking and fun, but it wasn't enough to save the rest of the episode, and bordered right on either being trans positive for trans inclusive ("woman enough for me!" could easily be interpreted either way, for example, but i was not inclined to give this episode the benefit of the doubt.) i do think it was really he fucked that guy and then wound up mooning over him, but then they ruined the joke by saying it was his female hormones. i guess he got top and bottom surgery That Fast? absolutely crazy how easy that is in the 2300s.
the hug with odo at the end was funny and then not funny for the same reasons
AND THEN. JUST WHEN YOU THINK HE'S LEARNED SOMETHING. he hits up the girl for oomox anyway. i HATE this interpretation of him
anyway, two more zek episodes to do, and they won't even have gay quark. ugh. 0/10. perhaps half a point for the gay kiss.
TONIGHT: voy's "demon" and "one."
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the-last-dillpickle · 2 years
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DS9 trivia from IMDB - Part 5
- The number 47 pops up an inordinate amount of times on computer screens, serial numbers, dates and so on. This tradition was started by Writer and co-Producer Joe Menosky and was soon picked up by the rest of the production team. Menosky said that he chose that particular number because when he was a college student at Pomona College, Professor of Mathematics Donald Bentley proved as a joke that all numbers are equal to 47. Interestingly, Alias (2001) also featured the number 47 many times, and incorporated it into its on-going storyline.    
- References are frequently made to Starfleet "ground troops", and some Starfleet characters have different uniforms (a black uniform with a small colored stripe across the middle). Fans generally accept that these characters are part of a Starfleet Marine Corps; this was an idea which Gene Roddenberry conceived for Star Trek (1966), but never found an opportunity to use until the movie Star Trek V: The Final Frontier (1989) where the men accompanying Kirk and crew down to Nimbus III were later confirmed to be marines. There was a Starfleet Colonel West in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (1991), who was most likely a Starfleet Marine since the rank of Colonel doesn't exist in naval organizations. Colonel West was played by Rene Auberjonois, who played Constable Odo on this show. The existence of Starfleet Marines was finally explicitly shown and stated on-screen in Star Trek: Enterprise (2001), indicating that they have been around in the Star Trek universe since at least 2153.    
- The Jem'Hadar were described in the script as tough warriors who were almost impervious to phaser shots. Make-up Supervisor Michael Westmore immediately thought of the thick skin of rhinos and reptiles when he read that description, so he designed the Jem'Hadar to look like dinosaurs, specifically triceratops, complete with horns.    
- The role of Jadzia Dax was initially offered to Famke Janssen, whose character make-up from Star Trek: The Next Generation (1987) season five, episode twenty-one, "The Perfect Mate" inspired the change in Trill character make-up from a forehead prosthesis. She turned down the role in order to remain available to appear in theatrical movies.    
- The U.S.S. Defiant was first envisioned to look like a beefed-up version of a runabout. When that didn't work out, they used an existing design for an alien cargo ship as basis, and developed it as a battleship. It was first called the U.S.S. Valiant, but Producer Rick Berman vetoed any name beginning with letter V, since he didn't want to create confusion with Star Trek: Voyager (1995), which they were setting up at the time. Defiant was chosen because like Enterprise, it was a name that had been used for a ship in Star Trek (1966) as well.    
- There was a level of friction between fans of Babylon 5 (1993) and this show. Babylon 5 (1993) fans felt that writers for this show had stolen many aspects of Babylon 5's premise (occurring recently after a war or occupation, episodes taking place on a space station not located in Earth territory, the cast discovering an ancient malevolent race that would become a major threat, the overall story of the show being less reliant on story-of-the-week episodes, and more of an overarching story arc, et cetera), asserting that Paramount Pictures had rejected J. Michael Straczynski's proposal of Babylon 5 to them in the late 1980s, but used certain details of the pitch by inserting them into the story and premise of this show. There was a concerted effort to bury the hatchet, especially by having Majel Barrett (widow of Gene Roddenberry) appear on Babylon 5 as an alien prophetess who spoke on behalf of her recently deceased husband (a nod to Roddenberry, who had passed away a few years before her appearance).    
- Regarding season seven: after Terry Farrell's departure from the show, a replacement had to be found to play the new host for the Dax symbiont. The showrunners were adamant not to cast a man in the role, as they wanted to maintain the running joke where Sisko refers to a young female Dax as 'Old Man'. It was decided that 'Ezri Dax' would be a young person, fresh from the Academy, who would display some adjustment problems because she had become stuck with an old Trill soul without going through the standard Trill training first. Numerous fans were initially reluctant to accept Nicole de Boer as the new host for the Dax symbiont, rather derisively referring to de Boer as "Ally McTrill", due to her slightly neurotic personality resembling Calista Flockhart's Ally McBeal (1997).    
- It is frequently stated that there are 285 official Ferengi 'Rules of Acquisition', although only 44 were ever mentioned in Deep Space Nine and subsequent Star Trek series. Because of fans continuously asking for a complete list, and knowing that someone would otherwise make one sooner or later, Ira Steven Behr finally took it upon him to write 'The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition' (ISBN 0-671-52936-6), credited as "By Quark as told to Ira Steven Behr."    
- Executive Producer and co-Creator Michael Piller said that when coming up for an idea for the series concept of this show, there were initially three ideas considered: another starship adventure, a space station concept, and a remote frontier colony. The frontier colony idea was briefly considered, with the idea that since Star Trek (1966) was compared to Captain Horatio Hornblower (1951) in outer space, the new series would be compared to Gunsmoke (1955), but on a remote planet. The frontier colony idea was eventually dropped since it would've required a lot of on-location shooting, and the space station idea was ultimately developed instead.    
- On occasion, sets from Star Trek: Voyager (1995) are used as other Starfleet locales. (For example: a holosuite grid in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Inquisition (1998), the entire U.S.S. Bellerophon (which was an Intrepid-class starship, same as Voyager) in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges (1999).    
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theygotlost · 2 years
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Every episode of Star Trek DS9 ranked by me and @gar-trek (video)
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S TIER: Civil Defense, Rejoined, Bar Association, Trials and Tribble-ations, The Ship, The Ascent, The Magnificent Ferengi, Far Beyond the Stars, Change of Heart, Take Me Out to the Holosuite, It's Only a Paper Moon
A TIER: Babel, Rules of Acquisition, Necessary Evil, Rivals, Crossover, The House of Quark, Fascination, Past Tense parts 1 and 2, Improbable Cause/The Die is Cast, Family Business, Little Green Men, Our Man Bashir, Hard Time, Body Parts, Let He Who is Without Sin, In Purgatory's Shadow/By Inferno's Light, Business as Usual, Empok Nor, Rocks and Shoals, Behind the Lines, Favor the Bold, You Are Cordially Invited, Waltz, One Little Ship, In the Pale Moonlight, Treachery Faith and the Great River, The Emperor's New Cloak, Field of Fire, Badda-Bing Badda-Bang
B TIER: Emissary, Move Along Home, The Nagus, The Storyteller, The Forsaken, In the Hands of the Prophets, The Siege, Invasive Procedures, Melora, Armageddon Game, Whispers, Paradise, Profit and Loss, Tribunal, The Jem'Hadar, The Search parts 1 and 2, Visionary, Through the Looking Glass, Explorers, The Adversary, Hippocratic Oath, Indiscretion, Starship Down, Rules of Engagement, To the Death, Looking for Par'Mach in All the Wrong Places, Nor the Battle Too Strong, The Assignment, The Begotten, Doctor Bashir I Presume, Ferengi Love Songs, In the Cards, Call to Arms, A Time to Stand, Sacrifice of Angels, Resurrection, Who Mourns for Morn?, Honor Among Thieves, Wrongs Darker Than Death or Night, His Way, Valiant, The Siege of AR-558, Penumbra, Tacking into the Wind
C TIER: Captive Pursuit, Vortex, Battle Lines, Progress, Accession, The Alternate, Playing God, Blood Oath, The Wire, The Collaborator, Second Skin, The Abandoned, Heart of Stone, Prophet Motive, The Sword of Kahless, Sons of Mogh, Shattered Mirror, The Quickening, Apocalypse Rising, Things Past, The Darkness and the Light, Ties of Blood and Water, Sons and Daughters, Children of Time, The Sound of Her Voice, Afterimage, Prodigal Daughter, Chimera, Till Death Do Us Part, Strange Bedfellows, The Changing Face of Evil, When It Rains, The Dogs of War
D TIER: Past Prologue, Q-Less, Dax, If Wishes Were Horses, Cardassians, Second Sight, Shadowplay, Equilibrium, Meridian, Life Support, Distant Voices, Shakaar, The Visitor, Homefront, Paradise Lost, Crossfire, Rapture, A Simple Investigation, Time's Orphan, Image in the Sand, Shadows and Symbols, Once More Unto the Breach, Covenant, What We Leave Behind
F TIER: The Maquis parts 1 and 2, Defiant, The Muse, For the Cause, For the Uniform, Blaze of Glory, Statistical Improbabilities, Inquisition, The Reckoning, The Tears of the Prophets, Chrysalis, Profit and Lace, Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges, Extreme Measures
Don't remember well enough to have an opinion even after reading the plot summary: A Man Alone, The Passenger, Dramatis Personae, Duet, The Homecoming, The Circle, Sanctuary, Destiny, The Way of the Warrior, Return to Grace, Broken Link, Soldiers of the Empire
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