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jeweledstone · 2 years ago
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Dream Lore Recap Part 1: In which Fresco goes through his Villain Arc ™
Okay
So
I’ve been having some wacky dreams lately and all of them have bits of lore development (some more than others) that I just HAVE to write down on here since that’s basically what my purpose in the Omniverse is canonically speaking. I’m breaking this dream lore dump into 4 parts (one for each individual dream) to make it easier on myself since I’ve been procrastinating WAY too long on this.
Okay, so the first dream takes place in the Frescoverse (a common verse for my dreams to take place in I’ve come to find, low key wish I could visit that place physically cause it is wild). It started out how Fresco dreams normally start, me and my family spending a day at one of the verse’s many entertainment buildings/attractions. It was all fun and games until some kids that were there ended up getting hospitalized after being exposed to FUCKING MUSTARD GAS of all things by accident while playing there. It was after the horrific event that I learned from a random bystander what the hell was going on.
Turns out the Frescoverse wasn’t as sunshine and rainbows as I thought it was. Though socially and economically speaking the place is thriving, people were still getting into danger almost every day due to there being little to no safety regulations for the many entertainment facilities the verse is known for. (Most commonly in the form of dangerous animals or objects left uncontained/out in the open with no supervision where they can easily injure guests) (Not to mention the bad habit facilities had of trapping guests in their buildings (or worse killing them) overnight if they don’t leave by closing time) I already knew about these kinds of problems, but I didn’t know it was as bad of an issue as it is.
This is where our favorite Dr. Wondertainment rip-off, Fresco Ferdinand, comes in. From what I understand, the safety regulation stuff has gotten better ever since Spamton took control of the verse, but Frez’s company seemed to be the only one who refused to adjust to the new rules and stuff. And the only reason he was able to get away with it for so long was because he was such a high profile reality bender who was very active in multiversal politics. (Including participating in the expansion and improvement of The Web)
Luckily for everyone else, I was also a high profile person in the multiverse and was able to call him out on his bullshit and, after he attempted to murder me for whistleblowing his ass, got him arrested. As for the fate of Fresco Incorporated, I ended up taking Frez’s place as their owner/CEO and basically ended splitting up its assets to multiple companies since I am extremely against any company having that much power.
So yeah, from what I get that verse is a bit more chill now that THAT nonsense is over. Here’s to hoping less people are getting hurt or killed for the sake of hedonism now. Just goes to show, never trust a corporation of any kind, no matter how chill and based they make themselves seem.
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anima-nostrae · 28 days ago
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TROP's Galadriel is a fucking fantastically made character
And I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
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I did not watch “The Rings of Power” when it first came out. I thought about watching it back then but I, like so many others, believed in the words and warnings of popular youtubers who made their careers under the presupposition that they not only know of the art of storytelling, but they understand it: so much so, that they easily distinguish what is good storytelling, and what is not.
One of the primary reasons I didn’t care for it, apart from not being a fan of *The Lord of the Rings, (*more because of never reaching for it than because of any strong feelings against it - which, I am happy to say, has since very much changed), was because of the show’s treatment of Galadriel. I did not know The Lord of the Rings, but I did know Galadriel. This fearsome, tall woman who commanded attention by the pure force of her presence, almost divine in her likeness, was someone I always cherished - without even knowing her story. Here was the evidence of a woman existing in a story that needn’t a sword to show her strength, her power. She didn’t need any stereotypically masculine strengths to be respected by other men. She was the victory of femininity distilled.
Then, earlier this year, right about when The Rings of Power’s season 2 was coming to a close, I was convinced by the sheer amount of advertisements of the show to give it a watch. “Fine,” I thought, “I will see this flaming pile of compost for myself.”
And since then this new version of Galadriel has not only won my attention, she has won my heart. I have finally watched all the movies, I have started reading the books: something that the movies by themselves would never convince me to do. I fell in love with the Middle Earth, and in the prose of Tolkien, in this unique English fairytale.
But more than that: I have gazed upon the last two years with an old longing, one with the sense of a wasted time. I could have known about Middle Earth way sooner, I could have dreamed with it and lived with it for two years.
And that sense made me look back on its cause: the youtubers whose opinions I trusted, and particularly their treatment of Galadriel.
Guess then who I found shoveling a grand bullshit pile of poor analysis towards me?
Yes, yes you guessed it.
They called her many a word, scarcely any good ones - “Mary Sue”, “unlikeable”, “a brash, violent, unsympathetic dick”.
And it was a bunch of men who could not tell “character motivation” and “character flaw” apart from each other, who could not separate their distaste for women better than them at anything from the “political motivations” of writers, men who cannot spell “complex” but who claim they yearn for it in their protagonists.
So I sat down with what I do best: I watched season one again, I wrote out all my thoughts, I analysed the dialogue and symbolism - and came to my own conclusions, undisturbed by murmurs of insecure people. It was just the creative work itself, and my thoughts on it.
And what I found was a complex, flawed female protagonist, that I for so long had a burning ache for. A character that I suppose, if outright given a chance, a lot of people would love.
(This is a very long essay. More of it, and subsequent parts here:)
This is an almost vomit - pile - essay more than stream - of - consciousness - essay, I'd say. Sorry in advance
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humandisastertonystark · 1 year ago
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So...let me get this straight again once and for all because I can't believe this isn't just a very, very bad fever dream.
After horribly killing him off in Infinity War, they decide to bring him back as a complete caricature of himself, basically making him an incompetent bumbling fool, to let their insufferable Mary Sue shine who shits all over him with the rest of the other characters for a whole damn season and then they reward him, after all this unnecessary additional torment, with the responsibility to fix the mess caused by Mary Sue, holding the timelines together for all eternity, doomed to be alone forever...something they also made him say he is the most scared of, multiple times.
How very fucking lovely
I can't believe I'm actually saying this but I wish he would've just stayed dead after IW
Also I hope everyone responsible for this, steps on Legos multiple times a day for the rest of their lifes
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rockermazy · 9 months ago
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All singing in the show is canonically diegetic - meaning that all singing 100% takes place in-universe, for all the characters to hear and potentially participate in.
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In the first (non-pilot) episode, the " Story of Hell" book, as read by Charlie, states that Lillith "empower[ed] demon-kind with her voice and her songs - and as the numbers of Hell grew, so did its power." After the extermination began, Lilith's "dream was passed down to her precious daughter, the Princess of Hell", who is presumably Charlie herself. Two scenes later, Charlie is in musical-notation hammerspace with other denizens, being the cognito hazard that she is.
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In episode 7, Rosie invites Charlie to rally Cannibal Town in defending the hotel during the upcoming extermination. When Charlie initially fails, Rosie asks how she normally explains her hotel. Charlie replies, "Through singing". Singing is canonically a gift of both Charlie and every demon - both Hellborn and Sinner.
Which leads me to a theory: One thing that's been nagging me since the pilot, is how Lucifer and Lilith have been fucking for nearly 6,000 years, but only NOW decided to have a daughter in the 21st century. It makes Charlie's existence look almost Mary Sue-ish*. After watching Helluva Boss, it made more sense that Charlie might be an "insurance baby", much like Octavia is to Stolas' lineage. Lucifer might not be unkillable. Carmine and the hotel battle of episode 8 have both demonstrated that angels can be killed with the right ammunition. But why was Charlie born now, in the 21st century? My theory is that Heaven asked Lilith to leave Hell, hoping she'd take her song with her. Heaven knew that Lilith was the one making Hell stronger through her songs. Charlie uses song to rally the people around her.
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Husk used song to heal.
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Song, even when used to butt heads, (ex: Lucifer vs Alastor), will make combatants drop valuable info, basically outing themselves to everyone within earshot in this universe.
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My guess is that a conversation sometime in the past went something like this: Heaven: Lilith, bitch - we see what you're doing. Stop teaching Hell how to sing - the bonding and wholesomeness is threatening our status quo." Lilith: No. Heaven: Fine, we'll exterminate. Lilith: (years later, looking at Carmine's charts) hmmm... the number of sinners getting exterminated each year seems to be climbing. Heaven might want all of us dead. Hey, Luci-boo... get your depressed-ass over here. You wanna make a kid this time? (Waits til Charlie is somewhat grown, and asks Heaven for a "meeting".) Lilith: ok, I have got an offer you cannot refuse - I will never EVER sing again, and my power will leave with me - IF you give me a spot in Heaven (or Earth - I should technically be immortal since I never touched the Forbidden Fruit). Heaven: um... win for everyone? ok! Charlie herself (for lack of a better term) might be Lilith's "ace in the hole" herself. Also, this makes me wonder if the only way to avoid lying is to avoid singing on the topic XD
*I have nothing against mary sues. I'd been wanting for years now to do something visual describing the internal turmoil that religious trauma caused in my The-Cell-starring-J-lo --like inner worlds. Telling personal stories and Mary Sues are inextricably intertwined. This show has inspired me to either keep pursuing that or just quit. Because picking apart past trauma for analysis can be more trouble than its worth - especially if you are ready to forget. u.u I still get deep chills every time I hear Emily and Charlie's duet in "You Didn't Know", even though I've officially considered myself atheist for like, what, three months?" This shit was an essay. I'm just going to play Warframe instead. Peace.
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xstrawberryshiftsx · 5 months ago
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How I met my better cr s/o PT1
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based off a dream and a playlist!
part two!
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Dove: that’s me! (I’m obvs not using my real name, plus my irl one is pretty weird so it suits lol)
Caster: my s/o
James: casters bestfriend
Bell: Casters twin sister
Jade, Min-Jun, Cindy, Clay: my best friends/friend group
I found this playlist on Spotify and my mind has never been more pleased
also no judgement this is super Mary sue and cringey but let me live
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‘who’s that chick?’
James asked as he crushed his Up&Go in his hand before trying to throw it-and miss-into the trash bin
‘I don’t fucking know’
Caster replied not looking up from his phone, it was like 8:30 and he didn’t have the energy for James gossip.
‘nah-mate seriously’ he jabbed Caster in the shoulder impatiently, he didn’t answer but put his phone down and looked in the direction that James was pointing to.
it was a girl-she was a golden blonde and light eyed, freckles littered her cheeks and she looked around 5’3-5’5. She was laughing loudly, holding one of her friends hands and Caster noticed that when she smiled two dimples showed and that she had slightly pointer then average canines.
‘Wow a girl-crazy’ he rolled his eyes sarcastically.
James rambled on for a moment about blondes and how the school never got new people-which was definitely not true, they lived in Sydney there was always gonna be new people.
The girl was surrounded by one of the main groups in the school year, this wasn’t an American movie and there wasn’t really a ‘popular’ group but they where some of the friendliest and well known people in the year, Clay, Min-jun, Cindy and Jade circled around her in a weird bubble, Cindy pointed around the school yard showing her random sections and Min-Jun not so subtly gestured to random people and telling her about them.
‘anyway-that’s why I think brunettes are wife material and blondes are friend material’
Sighing Caster turned away from the girl and back to his friend
‘wow that’s crazy interesting dude-really deep’
not understanding the sarcasm James grinned and nodded looking pleased with himself
‘still tho what a babe’
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TIMESKIP
Dove watched as her friends chatted on the train ride home, she’d known these guys since kindy but it was weird to finally been in the same actual school.
‘hey you all good?’ Clay asked suddenly noticing her quietness
the others looked up to her direction
‘hmm? Yeah I’m good thanks! Just been a long day’ she replied softly
‘I’ve got headphones if you wanna listen to some music and have some down time?’ Cindy said smiling as she rested a head on Doves shoulder.
‘Nah it’s okay-mine and Jades stop is soon-thanks tho’
Nodding Cindy got off her shoulder and turned to discuss some politics thing with Min-Jun. Eventually the train stopped and Jade and her both got off waving goodbye to their friends as they did.
‘so…-what’d you think about the school?’
‘oh! Uh-it’s nice-loud and full on but nice I guess’
Jade took Doves hand as they walked through their street the streets lights shining down on them.
Jade had moved in with Dove a few months back after her family decided to move back to England-jade had had a right fit about it and ended up staying behind to her delight.
‘As long as your happy’ Jade smiled, the street lights shone on her dark thick curls making them shine in golden light, everything about Jade was beautiful-from her golden brown doe eyes to her smile…a perfect picture.
‘I’m always happy’ Dove replied squeezing Jades hand
‘yeah-I know’
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‘Oi-Cass!’
Bell barged into Casters room holding a twenty dollar note in her hand.
He looked up from his desk his night glasses resting on his nose
‘what?!’ He groaned shutting his laptop and looking over at his twin.
Bell and Cass were eerily similar-only in appearance of course- they both had 1C dark hair and almost black eyes, they were pale and tall, the only difference was Bell was a decent person to be around.
‘I’m on my period…I-uh would personally be super appreciate if you decided to go to the corner store and buy me some snacks’ Bell crossed her arms and handed him the twenty dollars.
Sighing Cass got up from his chair.
‘yeah okay-what do you want?’
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Dove stared at their bedroom ceiling tracing the patterns with her eyes as she did. They turned over in her bed and twisted around trying to get comfortable. her uncle had recommended her to go to bed earlier but she couldn’t find it in herself to fall asleep.
she pulled on a jacket over her pjs and hopped out of bed walking out of her bedroom and through the halls and into the kitchen to where her uncle was having a beer
‘hey I’m going to the general store is that okay?’ She asked grabbing her wallet on the counter.
he looked up and smiled
‘sure pickle, just stay in the open streets and don’t be out for long-oh and keep your phone turned on’
Dove smiled and nodded before walking out the door
the door jingled as Cass walked through the store, going straight to the Asian snack section.
he looked down at the list Bell gave him
A cup of ramen (spicy beef flavour)
Two cans of melon soda
oreo and strawberry pocky sticks
Bin Bin rice crackers
white rabbit candy
‘Uh-um’
Cass looked up realising he was blocking the aisle
‘oh sorry-‘ it was the girl-the new girl from school, he stared at her not expecting to meet her especially not here, he decided to be polite for once and start a conversation.
‘your the new girl right-uh Daisy?’ He didn’t mean it but his voice came out uninterested and mean
‘Dove-my names Dove…not daisy’ she said awkwardly not really in the mood for a chat
‘huh-that’s a weird fucking name’ again he didn’t mean to sound so off putting but he always somehow ended up with that tone
‘Excuse me? No need to be a cunt’
she tilted her head at him confused at his staring and comments, she narrowed her eyes before walking past him.
the boy was cute-and tall but she was put off by his weird gaze, plus what a dick. He watched as she walked past him straight towards the pocky section-he watched in horror as she grabbed both the last strawberry and the last Oreo pocky box.
Against his better judgement he spoke
‘wait-uh do you really have to get those…ones?’ she turned around looking at him an eyebrow raised
‘Huh?’ She didn’t say it meanly but it was clear she was on edge
‘the pocky-those are the last two’
‘Well your obviously blind since there’s like a bunch here’ she gestured to the wall behind them
‘yeah but I need those two’ he said feeling impatient-he was cold and he could already feel Bells comment if he came back late AND without her favourite pocky flavours.
‘No one needs anything’ Dove scowled crossing her arms and glaring up at him
He laughed clearly frustrated
‘yeah well your wrong cause I need those’
Scoffing Dove walked past him and straight to the checkout
‘hey-wait please’ he groaned-shit, his mum was right his attitude was beginning to be a problem.
Dove walked out the door pleased with themselves leaving Caster alone in the shop defeated
@starrihideshere @livingsecret @ottaorca @gaiaexploreslife @catschasingstars @lovebvni @morganshifts @chloesreality @zipperrants
PT2?
this is super cringey and I absolutely hate myself for writing this 💀
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pluckyredhead · 11 months ago
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so what did you not like about worlds finest teen titans? There were a lot of dropped plot threads and bits I expected Waid to develop more (Roy and Ollie conflict, Roy, Garth and Wally never resolved their sleepover argument, Karen's reaction at the con to nearly being unmasked, Wally's parents, ect) and also the queerbaiting with garth (and his eyes changing colour halfway through???) was annoying. I thought it was cute overall but maybe I'm not familiar enough with some of the characters?
I held on to this ask because I was going to reread the miniseries to answer you more accurately, and then I decided to not put myself through that, so...hopefully my memory is accurate lol.
(I should note before I get into it that none of my quibbles are with Emanuela Lupacchino's art. She's a treasure and we're thrilled that she's here.)
But yeah, you've put the nail on the head with a lot of it. It was just terribly paced, like Waid didn't know how many issues he had or something. Aside from all the dropped threads you mentioned, it felt like the main bad guys were...pretty much hastily introduced, or at least assembled, in #5? There didn't seem to be any kind of...well, point to this miniseries. There was no theme. There was nothing Waid was trying to say, as far as I could tell, except "Fuck Roy Harper." (Oh, we'll get to that.) It wasn't an origin story for the team. It wasn't about adolescence or coming of age or learning who you are, except maybe a little bit for Garth. It was just...there.
And I want to be clear here: Mark Waid is one of my favorite comic book writers of all time. When he hits, he hits. The regular World's Finest book and his Shazam are wonderful. I just think this wasn't the right match of writer/characters, because he didn't handle these very well. Taking them one by one:
Dick: DC is fully in their "Dick the unbearable Mary Sue" era and this book is no exception. If I never see another comic where a whole team of experienced superheroes with major league powers and training stands around like incompetent jackasses until a Bat comes along and tells them what to do, it'll be too soon. I'm here to read about an ensemble book where everyone is a three-dimensional character, not The World's Most Perfect Boy and his loser sidekicks. Not only is it unfair to everyone else in the cast, it's doing a disservice to Dick, who is a much more interesting character than this book (or Tom Taylor, ahem) gives him credit for.
(There's also something very weird and inconsistent Waid is doing across his books with Dick - WF, WFTT, and BvR - where sometimes he's throwing a tantrum because he doesn't get to be a circus star with everyone looking at him all the time, and sometimes he's screaming at Roy for filming them, and both feel utterly arbitrary to me as well as contradictory.)
Donna: Donna's characterization in this was just...bizarre. I was a little worried about how Waid would handle her, since he has a tendency to turn more quote unquote "wholesome" female characters into the Mom Friend (see: his Champions run, where he tries to get away with it by having Kamala announce that she's not going to be the Mom Friend because she's the only girl on the team...and then immediately becoming the Mom Friend), and Donna's already very much a Mom Friend, and I didn't know what Mom Friend Squared would look like. But instead he went for this...Manic Pixie Nightmare Girl approach? Where she's really into bungee jumping and monster trucks? I'm not offended by it, it's just so utterly random. This isn't who Donna is? It's never been who she is? Baffling.
I am offended (I mean, mildly, but still) by the fact that she and Garth are shoehorned together in this. He's the only boy on the team she's never been romantically linked to, even in dreams/hallucinations/whatever, so completing the set feels very much like Donna's only narrative worth is in being a love interest, which...gross.
Garth: Garth probably got the best treatment of the bunch, to be honest. He was in character as the shy little weirdo he was in the Silver Age and in pretty much every flashback we've ever seen. He's smart and perceptive and bad at saying what he wants and generous towards those who have hurt him, all of which is very Garth. I have no complaints about him except the weird queerbaiting, and I'm not blaming Waid for that because from what I understand, solicits are written by editorial working off of a pitch, potentially before the comic is even written, so who knows what happened there? It might have been a stupid joke that didn't land, it might have been a story that was pitched and then a higher up vetoed it, it might have been a story Waid was going to write and then changed his mind. I'm not going to say it's his fault when I have no idea if that's true. Otherwise, I think he handled Garth well.
Wally: Wally was another one where I was just like ??? the whole time. He didn't feel like Wally, he felt like Bart. But, like, fanon's innocent child version of Bart and not the actual canon character, who has a lot more backbone. Why is he hero worshipping Dick like that? Why is he so docile? What was up with that weird line where Dick's like "you're the youngest?" Yes, historically Dick had already dropped out of college while Wally was still in high school, but otherwise they've always been portrayed as the same age. And if it's a reference to debut year, Donna's the youngest. It's such a random throwaway line dumped in at the very end for...why? Confusing me personally?
The worst, though, was whatever the hell was going on with Wally's parents. Wally's parents are not an idyllic suburban couple! They are not the Kents! Rudy West is only not classified as a supervillain because he doesn't have a costume! Even if he hadn't tried to kill Mary, sold the Earth out to alien robots, faked his own death, or run a deadly labor camp for children at this point in the timeline, he definitely hit Wally and, uh, poisoned Wally's Little League coach. I don't think Mary is as bad as some of fandom does, but she's certainly a difficult person. Wally was desperately unhappy at home as a child, which is why he latched on so hard to Barry and Iris. And Waid knows this, because he wrote a lot of that canon. If it's a retcon, it's such a strange, pointless one that makes all of them a lot less interesting. Just baffling.
Karen: I think it was a very smart choice to add Karen to the founding roster and make the team slightly more gender-balanced and not all-white. It's kind of a wasted choice, though, when she's so aggressively sidelined. All she does in this book is hang around with Mal and the support staff. She isn't looped into any of the major emotional conflicts - Garth and Donna, Dick and Roy, Roy and Wally and Garth. She's not treated as a headliner in the same way the others are, and that really sucks.
Roy: Hoo boy.
When Waid was announced as the writer of Batman vs. Robin, I was worried, because I had a feeling he didn't like Damian. I couldn't put my finger on why, it was just a feeling I had. And boy howdy, was I proved right! Damian is treated like shit in that book.
I had the same feeling with this book and Roy, and...let's just say I'm two for two, okay?
Here's the thing. I'm okay with Roy being written as kind of shitty, especially during his period of his life. Teen Titans: Year One writes him as an utter fuckboy, and I love that comic. The Mal and Karen issue of The Other History of the DC Universe retells the Bronze Age Titans era from their perspective, and it pulls absolutely no punches regarding Roy being, well, kind of an asshole...and it's right to do so, because it's drawing very directly from those 1970s comics, and he was often awful in those.
But Waid writes him as a generic 80s movie villain. He's a human popped collar. He's a stereotype of a bully. My problem isn't that I need him to never do anything wrong, it's that nothing in this book is specific to Roy, his history, or his established personality.
For instance, all of his bragging about how much money he has? He comes off like a kid who was born into wealth and has never known anything else, but that isn't true. He was at best middle class before Ollie, probably more likely working class given the economic situation on most reservations - but there's no indication that he's responding specifically to that shift in circumstances. He's just, like, Draco Malfoy with arrows. Also, Dick has a nearly identical history but none of the same issues. He even says "Roy and I have the same background but he sucks." Why is one of them a perfect angel untouched by filthy lucre, and the other is Bradley Uppercrust III?
And then there's the subplot with Ollie neglecting Roy, which fizzled out to a real wet fart of a resolution. But honestly, at no point did I know where Waid was going with that, because...well, if you know Roy's history, you know Ollie neglecting him is what leads directly to Roy getting into drugs. And like...first of all, the timeline here is off, because historically Ollie didn't ditch Roy until after he lost his money, and he still has it here. (How interesting would it have been to have Roy pretending he was still rich in addition to pretending Ollie was around?) But also, this comic ends on an "and now everything is fine!" note, but it isn't! It really, really isn't. So Ollie showing up at the end and being like "I'm here for you, buddy" doesn't ring true, because he is demonstrably not in this very comic, and we also know he won't be in the future. And Roy getting what he wants doesn't feel like a satisfying resolution either because we don't actually get to see changed behavior from him, and again, we know this won't last. (Again, TT:YO handles this dynamic very well, where we see that Ollie is an affectionate but negligent guardian who Roy is learning some very bad habits from.)
And to top it off, constantly contrasting Terrible Roy to Virtuous Dick and simultaneously pretending that Ollie was at this point a responsible guardian has the (I hope unintentional) effect of implying that Roy will eventually become an addict because he's just a bad and weak person, instead of a struggling teen who needed support and didn't get it. I would have actually preferred a story that hinted at the beginning of Roy's addiction and how he hides it from the Titans, because we've never had that story told in comics, but I don't think Waid's the one to write it. Instead we get a conflict that's out of character for Roy, a resolution that doesn't feel at all earned, and the looming threat of Roy's immediate future which Waid refuses to address.
In conclusion, this book was a mess, and you should all read Teen Titans: Year One instead.
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Star Wars needs more silliness... because the jokes are good enough.
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Once again, if you don't know, I'm what Lily would refer to as a Star Wars weeb. I live breath and shit Star Wars. You got it good. Let's dig in.
Not even a minute in before Lily starts complaining about how Star Wars is diving deeper into the lore of how the galaxy works. Even though she says she likes Star Wars, I never understood people who say they like something but don't want to know more about said thing.
She brings up that all the characters in the new Star Wars are basically the same character from older movies, which is kinda true, but that's also taking away the characters' motivation and story line she's uses Rey as an example saying "what if Anakin was a girl and a big dork." Which is kinda cute but completely ignores the fact that Rey and Anakin are nothing alike.
Now, I do agree with how Rey is a pretty refreshing character (and her video was made before TROS), but she's not as refreshing as she thinks Rey is. She even hit us with the "she's not like other girls," saying, "There is no mystery behind her origins. She wasn't linked to any characters of the past movie/books. She's just a force sensitive person who happened to get caught up in the war by circumstances." But then goes onto saying that no one liked that and that everyone wanted another, Luke. I am your father (which she called stupid)
She goes on a tangent about her complaints about TROS, which is valid. The last Star Wars movie was a big disappointment to anyone who liked the sequel. (I didn't like the sequels because I thought Finn would have made a better main character and the idea of a fascist soldier who was born into the army, learning that he was on the wrong side and worked to make up for his sins more interesting, also for what they did to Luke, Leia, Han, and everyone else from the original.)
After that, she brings up that everyone called Rey a Mary Sue, which is also dumb. She brings up the fact that Rey's force sensitive and uses Luke, Anakin, and Revan as examples of being overpowered, saying Luke had perfect had and Anakin had the reflexes of a god (idk much about Revahn so I'm skipping him) then mocks the people who cried over Rey not having any lightsaber training. But Luke and Anakin already had training in their own way. In the novelization of a new hope and even in the movie, it's stated that Luke would use wamp rats for target practice. Anakin was a slave who was bullied and probably beaten a lot, so he had to train himself to react faster. Anyone who's even been in a situation where you can't fight back will know that dodging and getting fast reflexes will help make sure you don't get hurt. Now, she uses her examples to explain that Rey would be able to beat Kylo in a fight because he's just a wimp. The nephew of Luke, who has been trained in the ways of the force since he was a child, is labeled as wimp. Technically speaking by Lily’s own logic, Kylo would have killed Rey in their first fight.
Okay, for those of you who care, I kinda write the blog post while watching the video, so I'm not even halfway done with this bullshit and I've already written 5 paragraphs of her video and she has yet to bring up why star wars needs more silliness... on to 6.
She then states that despite all her complaints about the movies (because she doesn't want to sound like a naiz), she really loves Rey and how... (this pissed me the fuck off) it brought life into Luke, Han, and Leia saying they were dull as crap. BITCH! I fucking love the original gang (they were my bi awakening) and when I heard they were bringing back the characters for the sequels I was very hesitant and I was right to be. The sequels did the gang so dirty, making Luke (the one who wanted to save his father, the man that chopped off his hand and killed millions of people and Jedi because he still had faith that his father was in there.) A mad man who tried to kill nephew because he had a scary dream of going to the dark side. They made Han (a badass who is a loving father and husband) a fucking deadbeat who lives in his van with his best friend. And they didn’t do shit for Leia she's not her sassy self or anything. She's just there for fan service.
She gets to her main problem with Star Wars saying, "They just rehash the same plot but with different seasoning. They all follow the exact same story: plucky underdog, every man rebels fighting against the evil empire." But the thing is that while sure Star Wars is just the same story over and over, it's the characters that I think is what makes it feel like it's something new. Seeing how different characters react to certain things. Luke wanted to be more than a farmer with fate, helping him become one of the strongest Jedi. Ezra only focused on keeping himself alive and not caring about anyone else to then becoming a strong leader with willing to risk his life for others. You aren't watching the same story with the copy and paste characters. You are seeing characters in the same situation dealing with it differently.
At the end of the video, she talks about her shity Star Wars fanfic and how that's how she would have written the sequels, which now that I realize what she had in mind with writing it explains why it's so fucking boring. why in the only 3 chapters I had read, nothing had happened. Thank god no one with a brain would ever leave her in charge of anything.
And of course, she can't make a video without insulting people for having a different definition of fun than her. Lily, for most people in the Star Wars exploring the lore and wondering how the rebels got the death star plans is fun for them, and most of us want to branch out from the force users to see how people in the galaxy deal with the empire. You know world building something Lily isn't good at.
Okay, this video really hurt to watch, and I completely hated it, and she didn't even explain why Star Wars needs more silliness she's just complaining about Star Wars even though she claims to love it.
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sonicjustbecause · 10 months ago
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What about the earliest Shadow?
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Mods and Shadow has his Chao following him...
I imagine that most people got so interested in Shadow lately because he is back to be likeable, but also because of the incoming movie.
For the last decade Shadow has been the laughing stock from Sonic series. Crazy OoC-ness from fans were deliberate and not a mistake.
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Yes, happy Shadow was a choice by its autor. Is a long story...
The most common image of last decade Shadow we had was... THIS...
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Idiot...
I knew Shadow first from Adventure and Heroes. I didn't play heroes but I played a lot SA2B, especially the chao game and I always used Sonic and Shadow because they were the safest to have around chao. I rediscovered him later, in 2010, but he wasn't the likeable character I once knew so I completely lost interest in him (also I'm more a Sonic fan). I forgot who he was and all the things I knew were from meme. But also video from games showing 'how Shadow is an asshole' 'Shadow the edgelord' and IDW comics, the worst of all (not that Game Shadow was better, he was often underused and his few lines tasted as 'Go fuck yourself'. To make things worse he was dubbed by Kirk Thorton, not a really beautiful voice, to not say brutal things...).
Sega just took Shadow and removed all his good qualities, all what made him well rounded, keeping only the flaws (I've read the mandates, do you know what an Anti-Mary Sue is? Well...). They wanted him being unlikeable I guess. Is mainly from Prime and tMoStH that Shadow sparkled my interest again into exploring him as character, that made me think there is more, that he must also have good qualities, not only flaws.
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The earliest Shadow (Sonic Adventure 2, Sonic Heroes) was hardly grumpy. He was sad, lonely, somewhat insecure, often lost in though, but also stubborn, certainly less cold than people might assume. As for grumpiness, if I compare him to Sonic in 2001, Sonic seemed slightly grumpier than Shadow at that time. Shadow himself seemed to be aware of that and to have fun picking on Sonic. Both of them are rather cold outside but both of them are shown to be able to feel strong emotion (Shadow having a panic attack and Sonic wiping his eyes during the credits, Shadow being controlled by is own emotions while Sonic refusing them) At least that was the impression he gave me. Since Shadow was meant to die, most of his personality traits aswell as his backstory were packed and shown during the whole game, like a character ark. He is pratically the protagonist in the dark storyline. By the end of the storyark he is able to open up to Sonic (during the final battle against the biolizard he openly told Sonic he was not feeling well. Also the hand clasping was a gesture of openess from Shadow) and to some degree toward Amy. Not so much toward Rouge who pratically is the one who hurt him the most. In heroes Shadow appears to be pleasant to have around, althoug aloof. He is not fond in humanity and that's one of his main traits, but he doesn't let his predjudice win over him. He still has this melancholic aura around him though, it doesn't matter how content or cheerful he may seem sometimes.
Sonic was dubbed by Ryan Drummond and Shadow by David Humphrey. David's voice was different from the other VA Shadow had. His voice was more high pitched, youthful, cute. Still soft spoken. Ryan's voice was legendary, and when he made Sonic talk soflty, he sounded almost like Shadow. The two VA had so similar voices that made Sonic and Shadow sound like legit twins, and back in 2001 I though they shared the same VA all the time. Well, Drummond also dubs Shadow for a short time.
So what went wrong?
The 00's era were the years of the prince of the saiyan, or better, the king of the edgelords:
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This guy was also sad and lonely. But he was also more impulsive, rough, boorish and extremely grumpy. Maybe because he is a muscular human and not a cute velvety male calico kitten hedgehog he filled the dreams of young and older teenagers.
Some said Shadow is based on Vegeta (not only him but also him) the more the 00's approaches the 10's, the more Shadow became grumpier, arrogant and standoffish. Sadness and melancholy were replaced by selfishness and he became less and less fun and interesting. Shadow the edgelord.
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Archie Shadow was maybe too expressive (and his sadness was very underlined) but with only SA2 and Sonic Heroes around this interpretation was more than understandable. They (Flynn, Penders I can imagine) referred from the material they had. Shadow opening up to Sonic is there in Adventure 2, is undeniable, so it was normal assuming he was more open.
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He is left handed, yeah! (This is actually correct)
In Sonic Universe Shadow was more balanced, maybe closer to the one we saw in early '00s. Lonely, rejected, sometimes bullied (although he could defend himself with his sharp tongue) because he was different.
Then the IDW.
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No. Seriously Shadow?
That is unavoidable if we are talking about characters that are created by a team and not by a single. We already see this with Disney. When the writers change the charcters change too, everybody notices different things about a character, based on it's own experience of life. The characters chanfe even when the single writer deals with them, because people change too. Any kind of mandates can only help this far, if they're too heavy they end to be counter productive.
This is my personal opinion, but I would have seen better Shadow befriending Amy and Sonic more than Rouge in early days. Rouge worried for him at times, but there were moments she purposefully hurted him (although later she cared sincerely for him). She would take time to regain his trust. With Sonic, following SA2 would have been open, even more than what we see in Prime. With Amy he would be in good terms though often drained by her own cheerfulness and extrovertion. Tails is rather reserved although not socially awkward so he would not have problem with him. With Knuckles things would become funny I guess, Shadow used to be calm and smart while Knuckles is more simple and is grumpy. I think he (Shadow) would still have issues and relapses with his PTSD though and the need to be left alone.
Well, now the movie will come out. They did a good job until now. I'm curious about what they will do with Shadow. I hope he will be likeable like in SA2.
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anika-kanroji16 · 25 days ago
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Does Goh deserve the hate?
Okay so if you don't know and I am sure you guys do know. Goh from Pokemon Journeys gets a lot of hate. Some I think for BULLSHIT REASONS. But today we gonna see why he gets hate and does he deserve it.
Now here the main reason well why many Pokemon YouTubers hate him and other people too.
"He catches too many Pokemon which loses the meaning of catches in the Pokemon anime" This. is. Stupid. For 1 reason. if you say he has no Emotional Connection to his Pokemon catches then Apparently Scorbunny, Grookey, Sobble, Suicune, Absol, White Fablabee, Cuibone, and Pincher do not exist to you. ESPECIALLY SCORBUNNY.
Exhibit A: Telling Scorbunny to not give up which makes Scorbuny want to be his partner and eventually he catches him. Scorbunny when Scorbunny wanted to do a Fire-type move He said if you can't do it just don't and that frustrated his Pokemon leading to an argument but then Goh finally understood Scorbunny's feelings and invented a fire type move. Another is his misunderstanding Raboot and almost abandoning it but even with that then he realizes that despite his disagreement with Raboot he cares about him still so he tries to get him.
Exhibit B :Another is Forcing Sobble to battle when he doesn't want to he makes up for it and apologizes When Sobble wants to train to be as good as he internally he uses a method that suits Sobble cowardly and scared cat nature instead of forcing him to do Pokemon battles and when he became Drizzlie he tried to force to make it happy but ended up learning about Drizzlie why forcing it was a bad idea and basically says "It okay if I don't understand what you going through I'll still be there" and connected with him deeper.
Exhibit C : A good example is him catching Suicune to save it from the Pokemon Hunters and being able to gain its trust through his actions
Exhibit D : Another time is he believes Aboel ain't no curse to the village which proves him innocent and leads Aboel to want to be caught by him
Exhibit E : Flabyee which leads to him finding a Flaybee's white flower does everything to find which leads him to leave Flaybee's to follow it dream of growing of those flowers.
Exhibit F : And Grookey because Grookey didn't want to stay with Team Rocket he wanted to stay with Goh and Goh wanted Grookey to be his partner too despite the fact that it's being from Team Rocket and when Grookey was forced to by Team Rocket, Goh protected it saying it doesn't want to go with you. In the episode where Grookey and Eevee go on an errand, we get a reunion of Goh and Grooky after being lost. And the Thameky episode where Goh gets to grow closer to Grookey in a sense.
With all these great examples so to say that "his catches makes Pokemon catches in Pokemon loses it's meaning" is just so fucking wrong and you just cheapening the catches that are meaningful. And it disgusted me to my core.
Another thing They like to call Goh a Mary Sue or Marty Sue for the males.
I am sorry but what is the definition of Mary or Marty Sue.
Mary/Mary Sue is Character which have no flaws.
Welp if you actually WATCH THE SHOW then you will know that he is not such a thing.
His main flaw is his inability to work together with other people like example when he wasn't able to work together with Gary during the raid battle it caused them to lose Gary basically said that Kindness might do more damage than good and also said Goh's main problem is cooperation with others and that made Goh remember Quillion's words in few episodes back when Quillion said the same thing. So to say That he's a perfect character is ridiculous it is even more ridiculous when a few episodes later Goh wants to go alone on a Project Mew mission and not be so attached to Ash. Plus Mary Sue means getting something that is not earned if Goh was a Mary Sue he would of earned an extra token during the Raid Battle Episode even tho he didn't deserve that extra token like Horace and Gary. But Goh didn't get an extra token and he knew deep down he needed to improve that why that flashback with Quillion's words came. All he got was a second chance to prove himself since he had the abilities and skills to be a Project Mew member and chaser he just needed to work on the cooperation. That alone made him a "Mary Sue" I am sorry so you saying that Ash NEVER did get a second chance like at all and don't you remember him getting some gym badges that he didn't earn at the start of the series. The only reason why Ash isn't a Mary or Marty sue for this is because his flaws are obvious to see at the start of the series and Misty and Brock remind him of the fact he didn't earn those two badges. And it is not all he didn't learn his lesson with cooperation because with Horace episode of them going to the same trial mission he worked together with Horace and with his trial mission with Gary was able to work together with him unlike last time and passed get to be a member of Project Mew. Just like with Ash finally earning a badge by himself.
Now let's go into another bullshit thing that they LOVE TO SAY ABOUT GOH
People like to hate on Goh is the fact he catches Pokemon too much and his goal was to catch them all people basically call him a Pokemon Hunter or say he just like Lawrence.
Which I will argue that you Goh haters are missing one TINY little detail separate Goh from Lawrence and Other Pokemon Hunters. Just one Tiny Detail.
You wanna know what it is
GOH CARES ABOUT HIS POKEMON!!!
He loves Pokemon, He cares about Pokemon, Have you seen Goh treat a Pokemon like How Team Rocket in XY treat Pokemon? No. You don't. You see him treat all of his Pokemon with kindness and respect. Have you seen Goh harm Pokemon or use freaking nets to trap the Pokemon inside? NO!! You don't. You seen him a Father to Grookey, A wingman for Pincher, who SAVES Suicune's LIFE and GAIN SUICUNE'S TRUST THOUGH HIS ACTIONS! A friend to Scorbunny and Cuibone and Believer in Axol and Sobble but NEVER and I mean NEVER TREATING POKEMON LIKE OBJECTS OR HURTING POKEMON!! So Goh haters calling him a Pokemon Hunter STFU. It is unbelievable for people to call him a pokemon hunter. WHEN HIS FUCKING ACTIONS IN THE SHOW SAYS OTHERWISE!!!
Not only that but his intentions are different
Pokemon Hunters: Catches Pokemon for profit
Lawrence III : See Pokemon as a collection.
Goh : Catches Pokemon to learn and understand them and cares about them too
Goh haters : I see no difference.
Use your brain that god fucking gives you. Or do you not have one.
And to say he isn't a great character or his role isn't interesting is simply not true. Goh is a character that explores the side of Pokemon that doesn't involve battling. You say Serena and Dawn but they do performances and you can say Gary but we don't see much of him to see that side so is a very good character and on top of that there his personality his relationship with Ash, Horace, Chloe and Gary ESPECIALLY HORACE AND ASH, It develops throughout the series and we get to his backstory too with Horace and His parents explaining how absent Goh's parents was in his life.
Now we only getting started I have learned from a YouTuber that Goh gets hate because he is queer and he made Ash fall in love with him since people assumed that he was straight.
People. You fell for Ash x Serena and Misty x Ash and assumed he was straight. And that was your first mistake. ;)
And I can say that for sure because Goh wasn't the first character that they had the goal of catching all Pokemon there was a girl in the manga and she gets WAY LESS HATE THAN GOH so it's probably because he is gay in truth. For this, I have to say
YOU HOMOPHOBIC BITCHES FUCK YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU STAND FOR!!! NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING GAY !!
I am not saying that all Goh haters are like this but I feel like most of them are.
Lastly People would hate on Goh because he is blaisan or black or just a black Pokemon character. And again those people FUCK THEM AND EVERYTHING THEY STAND FOR RACSIT ASS BITCHES.
In conclusion, Goh from Pokemon Jounreys, Doesn't deserve the hate he gets and it's fucking sad for him to get so much. But at the time even tho he gets haters there are a lot of people which LOVE HIM and I am one of those people and I wrote this post to say that Goh is an AMAZING CHARACTER AND I LOVE HIM TO BITS. He's awesome and amazing and the haters of him are just fking stupid.
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nicolesgf · 2 months ago
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Seeing people call Emily a pixie manic dream girl has the same energy as that one time I saw someone call Nicole a Mary Sue on Twitter…..
the fandom on twitter (and tiktok and reddit) is fucking horrible i try to steer clear of them they have the worst takes it pisses me off
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rantahead · 11 months ago
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This is your idea of a Hokage?
If you couldn't tell by the title, this is an anti Sarada post, keep scrolling if you're not into that
Let's begin with the outfit:
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ok, so the pose is just… she looks like a wanna be prostitute. Sakura didn’t even dress this way when she was OLDER than Salad, let alone when she WAS her age.
let’s start with the heels. even Tsunade didn’t wear heels that high when she, too, was OLDER than Salad. how can she fight in those? I’m surprised she hasn’t hurt her ankles yet.
those gloves… I have nothing to say about them, they’re normal.
her miniskirt tho, ewww! she has nothing to show at the bottom, but in the Chunin Exams arc, when she stopped when Bolt was attacked, you could see her fucking underwear. it just me hard moving in that ugly ass miniskirt.
the top, oh my god. what if she had a chest? it would be revealed.
her hairstyle too. that is the most disgusting hair style in the entire series.
the glasses, oh don’t get me started. they suit Karin, but Salad, it makes her look even more disgusting and I didn’t think that was possible.
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with this design, at least she’s modest (not that much tho). I still stand corrected with her hair style and glasses 🤮.
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I have so many things wrong with her timeskip design.
her hairstyle is a lame copy of Bolt’s. she tried and failed.
the outfit! It’s going to fucking fall off her. I’m just waiting for her to be in battle and it to just slip down and show her chest (not that she is one) and it will only be connected at her waist and lower. it also must be uncomfortable moving with such short shorts.
the jacket is a BIG no no. it’s gonna fall off her shoulders. it also looks like a bad copy of Bolt’s jacket, like her hairstyle. she admires Bolt so much that she’s a cheap copy of him (🤢🤮).
her shoes, oh my god. they, too, look like they’re about to fall off. how can she fight in those ugly things? I can’t wait for her to be in the middle of battle, trip in those ugly heels, fall face first on the ground, and break her glasses.
she’s inappropriate (this is probably the biggest board):
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there’s plenty more scenes, but I just couldn’t fit them.
she’s always hiding behind people’s backs:
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there’s so many more and let alone all the ones in the anime, but I couldn’t fit anymore on there, but there’s so much more.
like, can’t she defend herself??? some Hokage she is gonna be. if she’s like this then I want Iwabe as Hokage.
her Sharingan/Mangekyou awaking was the dumbest and lamest thing in the whole Naruto universe:
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she’s rude to her “friends”:
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she hit Bolt and drags him and shouts at him. she ditched Mitsuki because he was Orochimaru’s son. she spent an entire arc crying for a dad, and when she got one, she was rude and mean to him. she wanted to ditch Sakura because she thought she wasn’t her mother. she was rude to Kawaki and said he should use his past to justify his actions, which is ironic consider she has done the same thing.
her personality:
don't even get me started
she's a crybaby
she thinks she's oh so good yet needs saving
Mary Sue
rude to people
underestimates her enemies and ends up needing to be saved
overestimates her abilities
constantly belittling Boruto for the tiniest things even tho he's BETTER than her
always shouting
picking fights with anyone
she's dumb
I could go on and on.
she’s such a crybaby:
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she cried when she first met Sasuke and he didn’t even show any emotion, goes to show how little he cared about her. she cried when she couldn’t bring the dummy fish alive. she cried for no reason when she questioned Sasuke about her mom. and she cried for no reason when they were fighting Shin.
at this rate, she’s becoming more and more of a lame and useless girl with a boring backstory. I hate her, her looks, her personality, and her in general.
my concerns for her at that she’ll never amount to anything, she’ll go blind by 20, maybe 18, she won’t achieve her dream, she’ll become the most hated character, she will get killed off. I have so many concerns about the direction this character is going.
enjoy Salad’s real face:
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chocolatecatcupcakecheese · 9 months ago
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That post felt like a slap in the face of me and all my other homies. We are putting in the fucking work to write a good story but some bitch with the ear of half the fandom stands up, spits hatred even despite knowing it’s not the kind thing to do, and here I go, day ruined.
“THE PROBLEM IS THIS SHIP TAG OF IRRITATING OC X MY BLORBO, NOT MY SHIP TAG OF IRRITATING OC X MY BLORBO”
Shut the FUCK up. I KNOW MY OCS ARE IRRITATING. BUT EVERYONE SHIPPING WITH GORTASH IS A FUCKING OC
People writing about their OCs get enough flack about “Mary Sues” already. You don’t need to rub it in.
Fuck fandom. It’s always fucking something, isn’t it.
The funny thing is that I finished cutting the throats of corpses ch 2 last night while vibing with my tavtash manic pixie dream girls. But I think I’ll fucking sit on it for another week.
Fandom is so great for sharing love for a thing and SO GREAT for making you into a hateful little goblin. And I feel like the latter right now.
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nanathott · 3 months ago
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im back!!!!
1. mafia
2. sometimes pregnancy
3. corruption
4. love triangle but only when its too obvious (like the mc has to choose between some shitty love interest who treats them bad and a nice love interest)
5. BAD BOYS W TRAGIC PAST, ur bad person bc ur bad person not bc ur mom died when u were 5
6. ��everything was a dream” i did not cry my eyes out just to be a fucking dream
7. lowk A/B/O
8. mary sue
9. stalking/yandere shit
10. bad boy/good girl (i can make some exceptions)
11. miscommunication (JUST FUCKING TALK STOP STRESSING ME)
12. pick me girls/boys protagonist (cant stand u)
13. anything dub-con/non-con or incest
14. bully/victim stuff, thats not romantic
almost sure im forgetting something but idk, this is pretty much everything
1) i agree, for the most part this trope is so overdone and exaggerated, i have yet to read a book with the mafia troupe that i love (not ruling it out tho, if i find a book that does it well then W!!
2) anything that ha to do with pregnancy i hate, esp if it’s when the fmc just got to her full potential and has a kid and now she doesn’t do anything but stay at home (absolutly nothing against stay at home mothers, it’s just like… if ur gonna do that troupe with a badass character why not keep her a badass?? why change her character completely??)
3) i sometimes agree, ive read a few good “religious corruption” books where the mc deconstructs her spirituality and it’s usually super heartbreaking and angsty, i like
4) i hate love triangles period
5) REAL ur trauma does not excuse the horrible shit u do to people *cough* any “dark romance” love interest ever *cough*
6) HAHAHAHAHHAHA FUCKING FR
7) yeah, i’m not a huge fan of this either
8) no idea what this is💪
9) YOU GET ME!!! getting stalked is one of my biggest fears, idgaf if the dude wants to burn down the earth for me, he can burn it down with himself on it!!
10) i kinda like this troupe… but sapphics do it better
11) YES. FUCK.
12) like ur insufferable. someone needs to humble u and quick
13) 100%
14) i also agree 100%
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distinguisheddwarffriend · 7 months ago
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TH fic idea No. 2 (yes I have a weakness for MGiME sue me):
OFC used to pray to the Valar during her life (not believing in them at all but using them like a kind of spoken diary, reasoning that everyone is allowed to pick their own gods & they are just as likely to be real as the Christian one for example).
Then she dies.
And wakes up in Valinor meeting those of the Valar She has prayed to the most.
And they're like "well no idea what to do with you tbh guess you're one of ours now do you want cookies or sth?"
And she is like "bro are you for real this is brilliant I want to learn this and that and also..... "
And she hangs out with Yavannah and Oröme and Vana but mainly Aulë cus, yk, dwarves.
And he is like "sooo do you wanna join the halls of waiting?"
And she's like "idk lemme take a look" and there is Fili/Kili/Thorin whoever you prefer, hammering away at an anvil, and she's like NOOOOO fuck they already ded? Boooooh!"
And Mahal's like "yeah he's got trouble settling, feeling like he did not accomplish what he was supposed to" and she's like "well MAYBE that's because thats the TRUTH?!?!"
And the dwarves cannot really see her, she's more like a spectre with a distorted face merging with her background and a voice, but Fili/Kili/Thorin noticed her when she at one point breaks something in his forge while arguing with Mahal about how they deserve a second chance and while Fili/Kili/Thorin listen to how Mahal goes on about "we cannot disturb the music" she shouts "this music sucks anyway atm! Wouldn't hurt to change it! It's CLEAR some tunes are missing!"
And Mahal's like"wdym you HEAR the music?"
And she's like "well, yeah? And lemme tell you it can give ya a real headache at times."
Then she leaves saying that she's gonna bully Eru to give the Durins a second chance and Fili/Kili/Thorin, Who has been listening to that conversation, are like "ehem, Mahal, dear creator, am I high?" And he shortly explains about who the other voice was.
Well after some time OFC gets Eru to agree, and they take weeks to argue about the particularities and Option A is they end up with Fili/Kili/Thorin, Who has listened and therefor knows about what she's up to, to keep his memories of the quest while being sent back, but CANNOT disclose what he knows or how. Or something something bad will happen.
And OFC is like on the one hand "nice, hot dwarves and heroics" but then there are also orcs, the ring, no plumbing.... But whatever she'll make the best out of it.
So OFC argues that that's kinda harsh and convinces Dru to let her join them.
Option B and Eru's growing tired of her and is like "you know what? You can hear if the music starts to fuck up. You go down there as well! Be their personal Gandalf or whatever!" And the chosen Durin remembers os doesn't, or maybe just some vague stuff in dreams, I don't really care. But with this option there is nothing stopping them from sharing their knowledge.
She arrives quite literally at Gandalf's feet, explains stuff to him, and their first order of business is meeting up with Galadriel, Elrond and Glorfindel (she refuses to explain yet while she does NOT want Saruman involved, unsure if he ends up joining anyway no matter what she wants) and insists on freeing Thrain from Dol Goldur ASAP (using mostly book canon for this fic obv) so she has someone that can prove her story and give her some connections & shit.
OFC, with her fighting experience being drunk arm wrestling and nothing more, remains behind in Eryn Lasgalen while Legolas joins the aforementioned group in driving out Sauron.
Thrain is first treated in the Woodland Realm for the worst injuries, and during that time talks Some Shit through with Thranduil because, yk, they'll need him and his army later on.
Then they move to Rivendell, where Thrain heals and OFC gets SOME training (no, NOT Mary-Sue-ish, it takes YEARS to become properly adept at fighting, she has a few WEEKS, meaning she manages not to drop her sword any longer and shoot in the planned direction but THAT'S IT), then she has some kind of fight with Someone and leaves with some rangers for Ered Luin, Gandalf promising to deliver Thrain to his family as soon as he's fully healed.
OFC has been turned into a dwarf btw, INCLUDING the beard! In Ered Luin she finds a job at a tavern for starters and waits for either Thrain's arrival or Fili/Kili/Thorin to 'remember' (meaning his consciousness being sent back in time), because OFC herself arrived about a year before the start of the quest.
At one point, Fili/Kili/Thorin being regulars at her tavern, she recognises a change in their demeanor and introduces herself as *****(whatever name she had in Valinor) and they get to talking, F/K/T being SO glad to FINALLY having someone to talk about what happened.
They start hashing out the beginnings of a plan, but have to be careful for now so as to no one else picks up on their knowledge. OFC promises that *someone* (she totally is mysterious on purpose) will soon show up and help in that department.
One night, Gandalf arrives with Thrain, Thorin cries, Dìs faints, Fili & Kili get drinks ( and someone of course gets OFC) and joined by Balin & Dwalin the family celebrates and learns about Thrain & OFC's knowledge and they begin to form A Plan TM.
And then, there is plot I have no idea for.
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spocks-husband · 7 months ago
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OKAY SO after forcing myself to finish Voyager I am finally watching Picard so I'm gonna liveblog my reactions to episode one for the Enjoyment Of The People. Spoiler warning obv lol
-the cinematography is so yass
-oh my god it's my husba DATA?????
-WHAT
-HELLO???
-or is that B4...?
-I have to rewatch the TNG movies :/
-When did Jean-Luc start drinking his tea with milk????
-i love my husband Jean-Luc so much hes so hot even at 83 <<3
-uhhhh what's. Oh my god. Oh it was a dream. Oh I'm gonna kill myself.
-THE DOGS NAME IS NUMBER ONE ☹️
-AWWW HE'S BACK IN FRANCE :(
-who are these new people
-i'm uncomfortable
-WHAT the fuck is up with the replicators
-OH DAMN LMAOOO THEY BOUTTA DIE
-omg I'm from Seattle too she's just like me fr fr
-me when I'm murdering bitches
-of course the Black boy dies immediately ‼️ yasss ‼️‼️
-Intro was kinda meh ngl :/
-why is there SO much piano going on
-my beautiful old man boyfriend...
-JEAN LUC SPEAKING FRENCH IS GONNA MAKE ME CUM.
-sorry ☹️
-omg ....... Who is this sexy romulan man......
-DECAF??????
-he looks so tired someone please let this man go home 😭😭 my poor baby Patrick :(
-literally who are these people
-I always forget about that the Romulan supernova happened outside STO 💀
-Why is she bullying my bf. Kill yourself.
-GOD HE'S SUCH A GOOD ACTOR I'M SCREAMINGGGG
-I need to perform this monologue
-literally who is this girl 😭
-can you leave my husband alone please
-the writing just took a random turn downward
-PLEASEEEE I'M SO IN LOVE WITH HIM
-stop looking at him like that 🤨🤨
-dahj has Mary Sue energy I'm sorry 😭
-STOP TOUCHING HIM I'M GOING FERAL
-i also hallucinate Data being in my backyard
-Its probably just because we have better camera quality now then we did in the nineties but Brent's contacts are making me so uncomfortable 😭
-why does he say stasis like that 💀
-THE PICARD DAY BANNER :(
-DAUGHTER??????
-didnt we already do this in that one TNG episode
-OHH wait is she an android
-i want Jean-Luc so bad no one understands
-WAIT OH MY GOD I JUST GOT IT
-I JUST UNDERSTOOD WHAT'S HAPPENING
-HOLY SHIT
-Why are they making this sad old man run so much he's in his 80s 😭😭
-WAIT DID SHE JUST DIE LMAOOO NO FUCKIN WAYYY
-Number One is my favorite character other than my boyfriend, he's so perfect
-"I haven't been living, I've been waiting to die" OKAY SO YOU CAN WRITE WELL YOU JUST CHOSE NOT TO FOR THE PAST LIKE TWENTY MINUTES LMAOO
-omg hi B4!!
-i miss data ☹️
-DR MADDOX???? UGHHHH
-PAIRS??? THERE'S TWO OF THEM????
-that transition was bomb asf
-HOT ROMULAN GUY HOT ROMULAN GUY why is he British OH MY GOD THERE'S THE OTHER ONE
-damn straight to the traumadump
-this dialogue is kinda stilted tbh
-erm is that a Borg cube 🤨🤨
Overall rating 6/10
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wolf-tail · 2 years ago
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Unironically, my favorite variation of the Chosen One Trope is the way it's played in the Kung Fu Panda Trilogy. Po is an almost perfect example of what ppl think of when they think of Chosen Ones. He was chosen by a being old and wise enough to have literally created the art of Kung Fu. He came from humble, mundane origins. He discovers that he has an ancestry that connects him to an ancient and extremely powerful art centered around the manipulation of the vital force of life. He has multiple prophecies about him. Based on that alone, a lot of you would find him extremely boring. I wouldn't considering my "guilty pleasure" is the "super special mary sue" flavour of Chosen Ones, but I digress. What makes Po so delightful to me is that he genuinely enjoys being the Dragon Warrior. The guy was a massive fucking weeb about Kung Fu for years, he hero-worshipped the Furious Five, he literally dreamed about being a legendary warrior, and he got what he wanted. Do you think he regretted it when Shifu decided to put him through hell to get him to quit? No, he's happy! He has incredible fortitude when it comes to living his dreams, and took all types of abuse from Shifu, even from the Five, because he was that happy to be the Dragon Warrior. The only reason he quit was because
He was thrust into a dangerous situation that gave him a lot of responsibility that he was not adequately trained to handle, defeating Tai Lung.
His already low self-esteem finally cracked under both the pressure and from Shifu being a dick to him.
But he overcomes that, his character arc in the first movie is about him learning to believe in himself and his own capability. He's still just so fucking happy to be here, to be the Dragon Warrior and hang out with the Five!
Even in the second movie, when he finds out that his people were genocided because of the prophecy that one of them would defear Lord Shen, he still manages to overcome the overwhelming pain and trauma, and genuinely loves being the Dragon Warrior.
By the third movie, despite the fanboyish wonder having faded, Po has a genuine familial bond with Shifu and the Five, and is still just so goddamn happy to be there. He learns to control Qi and to be a good teacher, reflecting Shifu's teachinh style back onto his own students with some modifications, and just loves his job!
I want to see more Chosen Ones like Po. No more angsty Chosen Ones who crack under the pressure and wish they were never chosen. More Chosen Ones who, despite the pain, despite the trauma, despite the obvious challenges that are not easy to overcome, are just so goddamn happy to be here and be The Guy™️.
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