#doublel27 answers

[doublel27]

I love all your takes on fandom, ships, queer media, so I want to ask, what do you think about writing fanfic of real people ie. Thai BL couple? I'm coming back to fandom (K-pop to Thai BL specifically) after years and I'm having this urge to write fanfic of this branded pair that I like, like an AU version of them some sort. I have always wanted to write my own romance novels so I figure this could be a way to practice writing, but when I was still in K-pop fandom on Twitter, I was constantly told that writing fanfic shipping real people is weird. Honestly the thought of writing about a ship in this K-pop group I like still weird me out (although I do ship them) and is not exciting. But I have no problem putting the Thai BL pair into the stories I have in my head. I have spent hours consuming fanfics of them on Thai novel site using Google Translate. Also, Thai fandom has this thing where instead of the actor's name, it usually would be character's name with their face attached to it, like they are acting and the fanfic is a script, which make reading them more fun, open up more possibilities and dynamics. Would love to hear your thoughts. Thank you and sorry for the bad English. 🙏🏻

Hi Nonnie,

Thanks for the complement and coming here with this ask. I appreciate the kind words very much.

As far as real-person fanfic (RPF)I think it gets a lot of hate from a lot of people, but also it’s super common in the world in general and not just in unpaid fanfic circles. While I don’t write RPF myself, I’ve always had friends who did and do, and I see no real problem with it. As long as you’re not tagging the real people in it, I have no problem with its existence.

A huge problem and conflation with RPF being a huge toxic problem is that it assumes that everyone writing RPF is a toxic fan (tin-hat, sasaeng, etc) who is out there demanding that those real people get together and that by writing about the possibility of them potentially being together you are removing their agency and are being creepy and forceful. The reality is that most people who read and write RPF are normal fans with normal boundaries who know it’s all fiction and all in good fun, and it’s just a few bad apples that ruin the fun because they cannot separate the person from the object that has been created and is being packaged as a commodity (which is what the personas of famous people are).

I think in Thai BL fandom there’s an added layer of ease because they’ve already adopted an RPF model of promotion to sell their pairs and shows. Now whether any of those men are actually together in real life, there is a performance of a level of intimacy they perform in front of crowds and social media. Because the imagined couple or branded couple or CP already exists as a fantasy for fans to enjoy, there’s a level of implicit buy-in from the artists that doesn’t necessarily exist in other fandom spaces. This may be why it’s easier for you to enjoy it in Thai BL fandom than in another.

But real people write and profit off of RPF all the time. Every biopic in Hollywood tells an imagined story about a real-life figure and their real life events. People win whole Oscars for their depictions of RPF!! Hamilton is an excellent example of a viral musical that is an RPF story come to life, especially the Hamilton/Angelica storyline as she was already married long before they met. Evita is another classic RPF musical that is beloved by the people. The myth of Anastasia and the beloved 1998 animated classic is a hopeful bit of RPF that has existed in some form or another since the fall of the Russian royalty (though the grand duchess receiving girls who pretended to be Anastasia is a real event so…RPF). The Crown on Netflix is RPF. I think time and distance helps people not feel it’s less weird, like if the person isn’t going to see it then maybe it’s fine.

I think RPF also gets a bad name because it’s largely what tabloids and gossip blogs have long traded on. Especially as tabloids and gossip columns trade in stories that are aggressive and accusatory and demeaning, and are meant for the personalities in question to see and are reported to be true. A lot of people conflate the two things.

My best practices for RPF run about the same as general fanfiction: keep it to fan sites like the one you’re currently reading it on (or tumblr, or AO3, or any of the many options out there), if you’re going to share it on Twitter or Instagram (which I’m old and wouldn’t because I belligerent in a healthy level of separation - the way I can’t with people just casually adding omega verse comments and retweets to pictures on public forums) don’t @ them and even be careful using hashtags because if actors want to read that they should go looking for it like the rest of us, and generally just be respectful of the artists and their life and their personal boundaries. General rule of thumb for interactions with everyone: if it’s not something they can change in 5 minutes or something wildly not okay, don’t comment on a persons actions or decisions.

And that’s about it. I hope you write what you want to write. What you’re talking about, using them almost as a dream cast for your original fiction is also barely in the RPF category. I hope you have fun. Your English was fantastic (said as a lifelong English speaker who has taught the language and am unsure how proficient any of us are with this creole of a language).

Oh and if you’re messing around in Thai BL RPF just know that Joong Archen may find whatever you write and read it. We have a deal, Joong, I know you’re out here somewhere but I would like to keep my old lady sensibilities and pretend that my fandom life is still kept relatively separate from the artists.

[herefortarlos]

I don’t unfollow people, mostly. So it’s just 11+ years of me collecting people to follow and it means my dash is wild. But you know, it’s fun. I wanna say at least 200+ are LS or former LS people.

Ohh wow, okay, when you give me the context that you've had your blog for over 11 years, that makes a lot more sense, sweetie! Haha, I imagine you get a lot of variety on your dash and are exposed to a lot of things 😂! I am very impressed by your commitment! I forget that my first blog also followed a lot of other people and that's why I didn't want to do that with this blog 😅.

Anyways, I hope you're having a lovely night!! And thank you for giving me the reasoning 🥰💖

[reyesstrand]

You and me both friend. You and me both. The way this man saw his whole future in Carlos and legit had the Prince Henry “I have to flee because if anyone this amazing loves me…” freak out.

I’m still not okay.

RIGHT LIKE…………we meet tk and he’s got that gleam in his eye because he’s going to ask the man he thinks is the love of his life to marry him. he loves love so much despite what life already threw his way and he continues to love love when more tragedy comes at him. he relapses and moves to austin and he meets an incredible man who shows him it’s okay to open up his heart again. he meets a man and he’s almost too good to be true and wants him and tk runs because these feelings are so intense and so unlike anything he’s experienced so quickly, and it’s like….it’s like he can’t accept that he deserves that. he meets an incredible man who loves him for every inch of him, for his sharp edges and big heart because tk doesn’t know it yet but he’s allowed carlos to realize he was never broken, that his dream he never allowed himself to have was becoming real. carlos shows tk that he deserves the love and then some. tk was the key that unlocked carlos but carlos was the man who caught tk when he fell and waited for him to be ready and loved him as he always wanted to be loved. carlos would’ve stood by tk’s side and taken care of him whether they had five years or fifty years and everyone around them knows this fact so deeply because it comes off them in waves how much they love each other and how they’re basically fated and now they’re getting married. and i’m going to go cry myself to sleep.

[rmd-writes]

I mean, I would say sorry but I am fully not sorry. If I have to make the connections in my head, I’m going to make others see them with me.

That’s just how it works.

it is absolutely the way it works. I was already having a breakdown but the added layers of Prince Henry fleeing the lake house and David being a burnt marshmallow are too fucking much.

(Please never stop)

[lire-casander]

💓 Here’s yours chance! Pour your heart about that one storyline/scene you passionately love

🧥whose fashion do you like the best?

💓 Here’s yours chance! Pour your heart about that one storyline/scene you passionately love

There are a few I enjoy, but I think that Carlos' journey to hell after his father's murdered is probably my favorite one. Rafael is one of the best actors I've seen in a long while, and he delivers such an amazing and inspiring performance of grief and despair, it's just perfect.

Another storyline I like is the breakup era, the whole ice scenes and Carlos' vigil by TK's side. As you can see, I love Carlos a whole bunch!

If I'm talking about other characters, probably my fave storylines are Marjan's, Paul's and Judd's in that order. Marjan's is about empowerment and growth, Paul's is about finding your place in a world that not always accepts us, and Judd's is about redemption and forgiveness. What's not to love about them?

🧥whose fashion do you like the best?

By far, Paul's! I simply love how he dresses and how confident he is in what he wears!

send me some 911LS asks!

[strandnreyes]

thanks @welcometololaland @beautifulhigh @sznofthesticks @heartstringsduet !

“I’m sorry, your honor, but I’m not sure how I fit into all of this.”

Owen takes an audible inhale, seemingly remembering where he is. He grows more professional, nodding once, and Carlos can easily see how he commands a room. “I see your skill. Your loyalty. And I have a new position for you, if you’re willing.”

Carlos frowns. “What is it?”

“Head guard for the prince,” Owen tells him, and Carlos nearly chokes on his tea. “You’ll have a room in the palace right next to his and it’ll be your duty to ensure his safety all hours of the day.”

“Um…” he says with an unsteady voice. Owen has an expectant smile—like Carlos should be overjoyed at the offer—but he feels like Owen has the wrong guy. “I’ve never been a guard. I don’t have any training.”

“Your father was an excellent one. You showed me last night that it’s in your blood,” Owen answers automatically, and Carlos swallows hard.

tagging @alrightbuckaroo @bonheur-cafe @basilsunrise @chicgeekgirl89 @carlos-in-glasses

@carlos-tk @cold-blooded-jelly-doughnut @freneticfloetry @doublel27 @eclectic-sassycoweyes

@lightningboltreader @liminalmemories21 @paperstorm @reyesstrand

@rmd-writes @three-drink-amy @theghostofashton @tellmegoodbye @safeaswrites + open tag!

[pimento-playing-hopscotch]

WIP Wednesday

Thank you for the tag, @cold-blooded-jelly-doughnut 💝

This... is not from my TK and Sophie fic, but something that was inspired by a mutual's fan art on here -

“Please be careful,” Carlos said, handing the keys over. “What is my car?” “Not half as pretty as the man who owns it,” TK said, batting his eyelashes flirtatiously.

Carlos crossed his arms. “TK…”

“Fine”. TK sighed dramatically. “Your car is an eight-year-old piece of heavy machinery in good condition with good tire pressure, two windshield wipers and you expect it to come home tonight the same way”.

“TK, have you still not replaced the wiper that flew off your car?” Carlos exclaimed. “Baby, we’re talking about your car,” TK said, taking his husband’s hands and squeezing them. “And remember, my car is being fixed right now”.

“That storm was almost a month ago!” his husband exclaimed. “You drove around with only one windshield wiper for almost a month?” “Maybe,” TK said as he looked away. “But,” he added brightly, “no storms are projected for today, so we should be good. I’ll text you when I get to her place”. He planned to peck Carlos on the cheek and dash out the door, but his husband saw this coming a mile away and wrapped his arms around TK’s waist.

“Not so fast, you,” he murmured, pressing a kiss to TK’s temple. “What is something you’re not going to do in the Camaro today?”

“Eat Cheetos,” TK answered. Carlos nodded expectantly. “Or…?” “Or nachos”. TK added. “Yes”. Carlos nodded again. “Or tacos. Or tater tots, or anything that you would eat and then wipe your hands on the seats”. “Not like it’s a super common occurrence”. TK muttered mutinously as he headed for the door. “But one snackcident, and I’m marked for life”. “Yes, I want you to text me when you get there”. Carlos said, opening and leaning on the door frame. “And no, snackcident is not a word”. TK whirled around the in the doorway. “If Jake Peralta says it, then it is”. “If Captain Holt would call him on it, then no, it isn’t”. Carlos replied.

No pressure tagging - I tag @nancys-braids @anewkindofme @carlos-in-glasses @heartstringsduet

@lemonlyman-dotcom @kiankiwi @actualalligator @thisbuildinghasfeelings

@welcometololaland @honeybee-taskforce @chicgeekgirl89 @bonheur-cafe

@liminalmemories21 @paperstorm @chaotictarlos @literateowl

@goodways @captain-gillian @carlos-tk @herefortarlos

@firstprince-history-huh @reyestrandd @terramous

@alrightbuckaroo @meditating-honey-badger @fallout-mars

@theghostofashton @snowviolettwhite @lochnesswriter

@the-flaming-nightmare @eclectic-sassycoweyes @ladytessa74

@lightningboltreader @freneticfloetry @jesuisici33 @doublel27

@mikibwrites @basilsunrise @rmd-writes @safeaswrites

@thebumblecee @celeritas2997 @sugdenlovesdingle

@birdclowns @she-walked-away @mooshkat and anyone else who wants to do it - open tag 🫶

[farm-witches-fic-recs]

We don’t know about you, friends, but the witches have been looking forward to this Friday all week long. The coven is so pleased to provide you with some more community recs for your weekend reading. Lounge around and enjoy and leave the writers some love! 

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Big Brother (@bellafarella, Kels78, mariss_ugh) “Want to feel fully immersed in a reality competition with all our SC friends? Looking for a long fic to fall into? David and Patrick fall in love while on Big Brother.” 

Blame it on the Raine (@chelle-68​) “It does an amazing job of exploring David’s past relationship with Sebastien, his budding relationship with Patrick, and Sebastien’s arrival in SC. The way it weaves canon and fanon together is just phenomenal.”   

Currents all around us (@5ambreakdown) “Beautifully written, I’ll never forget reading this as a WIP. Vivid and filled with so much love. Even if you don’t like magical realism, you will love this.” 

I haven’t met the new me yet (@yourbuttervoicedbeau) “I love seeing Rachel bounce back via Jake.  The whole series is great.”

I’m not sorry it’s over (@doublel27)  “This bittersweet canon-divergent fic answers the question “What if Rachel cheats on Patrick, and that’s what leads to them calling off the wedding?” The resulting exploration of their sadness, relief, and, ultimately, hope, is so well done. This gives us an honest, open conversation between two careful, caring people trying to sort out their future, and I found it thoughtful and satisfying.”

Knowing you can always count on me  (@legalgal421) “David considers an old friendship upon receiving an invitation to her wedding. I liked this look at David's past friendships, protective Patrick, and David and Patrick's new friends.”

Reservations (@obsessedwithdavrick) “A five-chaptered delectably-tropey-yet-intriguingly-original David/Patrick AU set in NYC, with sparkling cameo appearances from Alexis & Rachel. Patrick is pursuing a career as a restaurant reviewer, and who better to take along as his +1 than his gorgeous new roommate who has strong opinions about food (and everything else), David Rose? Patrick's restaurant reviews included at the end of each chapter are fantastic and serve to highlight aspects of their burgeoning relationship (as well as making the reader wish they lived in a place with more/better restaurants). There's pining friends-to-lovers, and bed-sharing, and Patrick being uber-competent and servicey, and all kinds of wonderful ingredients. And a bonus podfic!”

[noxsoulmate]

Yesterday we had Inspirational Saturday - today, you get a snippet from the scene that goes with those pics 😏

Is this a thing I'm starting 🤔 giving you pics one day, and then the next I give you sentences that go along with them? I mean, definitely sounds like a good motivation for me, if you're all down for it...

Judd knew it didn’t matter what he said when the man smirked at him. A moment later, he lifted his hand, and instantly, one of his thugs punched Wyatt’s stomach, hard, knocking the wind out of him. Wyatt groaned and Judd knew he would’ve toppled over if he hadn’t been held up.

“Stop, hey, stop, stop!” Judd stepped closer but his path was blocked by the ferret in front of him.

“That boy promised us money, we let him play, he lost, now he owes us money. Do we look like we care whose fault this is?”

“No, you look like the type of people who enjoy beating up a kid and that’s why you let him play in the first place.”

Another groan from Wyatt reminded Judd that he should better watch his tongue. Biting it hard, he glared at the man.

“What does he owe you? I’ll pay.”

“Now we’re talking, daddy.”

“How. Much?”

“Eighteen quid.”

Judd almost did a double take, biting down hard on his own teeth. Eighteen quid? How on earth had the kid made that much debt in such a short time?

The answer was simple and Judd could read it in the ferret’s eyes. They’d wanted Wyatt to fall down that hole and not be able to dig himself back out. Eighteen quid – eighteen pounds… that equaled the wage they’d earned in two months as construction workers for the Titanic. It equaled the price of two and a half of their tickets back home. Eighteen pounds was nothing someone just carried around, least of all a kid.

He’d been right, this was about these scoundrels just having a bit of fun.

tagging: @chaotictarlos, @detective-giggles, @ravens-words, @lightningboltreader, @strandbuckley, @rmd-writes, @welcometololaland, @paperstorm, @actuallysara, @unstatedmartini, @doublel27, @bonheur-cafe, @just-inside-her, @alidravana, @heartstringsduet, @wtfuckevenknows, @morganaspendragonss, @meditating-honey-badger, @sgirl18

[marjansmarwani]

Seven Sentence Sunday 

@detectivecarlosreyes did one that I tagged her in ages ago and I needed the motivation to write literally anything, so I decided to do one too (disregard the fact that it’s technically monday here). 

Shout out to @justaswampdemon for helping me with it as well as @moviegeek03 because they’ve both been listening to me obsess about this idea for months. It’s a rough first draft but I’m happy I started writing it at all. 

It had been three weeks since Owen had come home to find a note on the counter that had turned his world upside down. 

Well; two weeks, five days, and seven hours, but who was counting? 

He had spent every day since doing everything he could think of, calling every person they had ever known; desperately hoping that maybe they had heard something, that maybe they had the answer to all the questions that had kept him up every night since. He had spent entire days tracking down every NA and AA group he could find in the city and surrounding areas, reassuring them that yes, he understood it was anonymous, but if they could just tell him if they had seen the man in the picture or not recently he would be on his way. The entire fire station had joined the cause; Marjan was keeping a list of everyone who had hung up on her so she could keep calling them with different numbers. 

He hadn’t had a full night’s sleep since that day and all his usual routines had been abandoned. His skincare products sat unused beside the sink and each day the face in the mirror looked more and more haggard, but he ignored it. It didn’t matter. Nothing did until he had the answers he was seeking. 

He just needed to know that his son was alive. Nothing else mattered.

no pressure tagging @reyesstrand @terramous @welcometololaland @doublel27 @strandnreyes @kiras-sunshine if you want to share anything you’ve been working on!

[liminalmemories21]

Inspiration Weekend

Tagged by @rmd-writes.  To answer your question - there are about 17 kinds of alcohol in my house, none of them are red wine.  I’m currently trying to decide if tequila & lime & soda will scratch the same itch.

This inspiration is currently somewhat more aspirational than actual - but it’s definitely living rent free in my head.  I want to write, but the page remains blank.

Tagging @ravens-words and @iboatedhere​ and @doublel27​ in return.

[doublel27]

me today about the storyline: hope for the best, expect the wrse.

But also, SO EXCITED WE ARE GETTING MARRIED TODAY!!! It's a rollercoaster of emotions lol

So much this!! Look, I have been wrong before and just because I don’t think it’s where the storyline is going or even a good story doesn’t mean the writers room thinks differently from me. Please see my logical opinion of what I thought Carlos’d big secret was at the top of the season and what I thought definitely wouldn’t make sense and what we ultimately got. Still didn’t make sense fully but we got it.

With this I will hope for the best, but also, in terms of letting storylines breathe, which they’ve been somewhat working on, killing Gabriel in the finale wouldn’t give it enough time for the grieving. Though they did kill Charles off very close to the end of season two so🤷🏼‍♀️

Either way we’re getting a wedding.

[herefortarlos]

Look Desi, TK is really fucking pretty. It’s also why he’s good at checking vitals and falling asleep on his husband. Also coming back from the brink of death. He works hard enough.

But yes, it would be nice for him to do more than check vitals and fall into lakes and take home lizards.

The prettiest, LL 🫠 and that in itself is a full-time job, you're right! We know he has the capability to do it all and then some! But still, I would like to see some of that on the screen, too 😅 PLEASE! Just give us the tiniest thing that shows off his dual-certified competency! It has been far too long! And then I will never mention it again and he can go back to being the prettiest of faces, who checks your vitals like a pro! 😂

[indestructibleheart]

Fic Origin Story

Tagged by @doublel27 and my most beloved @stereopticons ❤️

What was your first fandom (reading and/or writing)?

Okay, you’re going to laugh... but I’m pretty sure it was Twilight? The fandom I got really, really deep into was Glee. I’m not proud of that, but here we are lol.

What was the first story you ever wrote (even if it was never posted) and what made you decide to write it?

My first story EVER? Oh boy. I was probably around seven or eight. My elementary school had this program called ‘Pinky’s Press’ (our mascot was a flamingo named Pinky), where we could write and illustrate stories, and they’d bound them into these little books. I was literally in the second grade, so it was probably something like “This is Lollipop. He is a unicorn. He eats apples.” (That wasn’t my story - fuck if I remember what I wrote about, but that’s, like, the gist of where I was probably at developmentally. 😂) My mom probably has the stuff I wrote for Pinky’s Press in a box somewhere, tbh. I don’t know how many I did, but I know I participated a lot lmao. 

My first fic was definitely in the Twilight fandom. It was on FF.net, and I couldn’t tell you what it was about, but I do remember I had a whole series.

What’s a piece of advice you would give to your younger fic-writing self?

It doesn't have to all be angst. It's FINE to let your characters be happy. Please get some therapy. Also, you're queer.

^ This was Julie’s answer and... Honestly? SAME.

What’s an early fandom interaction that stuck with you (be it a nice comment, a friend you made, a fic that got a lot of feedback etc.)?

Honestly, I think the feedback that I got back in the day and the friends that I made through fandom back in high school (a few of whom I still have some contact with!) played a huge role in my continuing to write. Having people tell me they enjoyed my silly little works kept me going, especially back then. Hell, it may have something to do with why I pursued a career in writing.

tldr; Comments and kudos matter, folks. Leave them.

Post a sentence or two from one of your older fics, and a sentence or two from a newer one (if you want).

I could not do that even if I wanted to. I have no idea what my FF.net username was. I am wracking my brain, but... I got nothin. However, here’s something that I’d really like to finish:

Whatever he’s saying dies in his mouth when the door to the café opens and a man he now recognizes slips through. By now, David has memorized the lines of his face; he knows the way his eyes crinkle when he smiles, and how his honey-brown eyes catch the light. He’s already traced his gaze over the slight curl to his hair in those pictures — thought about how it’d probably create full-on ringlets if he gave it the chance to grow. He knows how nice he looks in a suit… but he doesn’t know his name. Just the sight of him fills the empty crater in David’s chest, but he doesn’t know his name. 

“Ohmygod, David,” Alexis says, reaching across the table to slap his arm before looking back over her shoulder. “That’s him! That’s the button!”

He flaps his hands. “Shh!” David demands. “I fucking see him, Alexis.”

tagging: @lilythesilly, @blackandwhiteandrose​, @maxbegone​, @dinnfameron​, and anyone else who wants to share!

[lutavero]

I am so in love with the TK "feral cat turned domesticated" Strand set! I'm so delighted that one of my text posts could be inspiration for a set as gorgeous and hilarious, that also gives me all the feels. Thank you!

I'm so glad you liked it!!!! Honestly, every time you referred to TK as a feral cat in your answers/tags it made me snicker so hard... I adore this concept tbh. 😅

It's been nagging me for a while to make something with it and now, thanks to the character appreciation week I even had a reason to. (Not that I'd have had other ideas lol)

It was actually so much fun to make and it's definitely strong in feelings too!

[sunshineacd]

I agree!! (With your tags) The banter was totally TK trying to cheer Carlos up/knock him out of the funk a little. They both do this and I love it. They don’t treat each other as entirely fragile and this is clearly a bit out of the worst of it.

I just love them a whole lot and this episode just made me even happier. Domestic TK for the win.

Yeah my head is very much full of thoughts about that scene as a whole. But it really is the different ways we see them helping one another through things for me. Like obviously, we know TK is worried and Carlos is pretending like everything is okay. And this isn't the first time we've seen them try to use humour to make the other feel better (TK in 2.04 using the personal shopper line to make Carlos smile is always a big one for me and the only one I can think of right now because like I said head full lmao) Anyways, off topic, but yeah I agree with everything you said about how they treat each other in times like these.

These are the little moments I love seeing and we saw them throughout the episode which made me even happier. But yes, the domesticity of that scene truly is a win for me (all of us honestly.) They care so much about one another and that will always make me emotional.