#dont want discourse about this i just want 2 keep people safe
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moderator intro . blog rules . tagging system
who is running this blog ?
My name is Orion ! He / Him . ΘΔ 🏳️⚧️
i'm level 2 support needs autistic and zoology is my special interest, but I have strong favoritism towards dogs. i am not a professional but i am an aspiring vet.
this blog is not about me and i don't intend to change that. you will not see me post about personal or political things unless it directly relates to this blog. (ie; a health issue keeping me from posting.) I will not talk about myself here unprompted. personal asks will be answered but tagged accordingly.
i have memory issues and struggle with mental and physical illness. i ask that you please be patient and do not always expect answers (especially quick ones) from me.
how do you run this blog ?
i have a queue schedhuled to post ten times a day all day! tagging me in posts is encouraged as it takes a lot of time to find my own. i am often busy with school, so i don't have all the time in the world to run this blog. The queue may occasionally run empty, but I promise i will try to avoid that when i can. asking me to identify dogs in posts, sending me your dogs to identify, etc is encouraged!
i can :
tell you about dog breeds in terms of history, lifestyle needs, common health issues, and temperament!
identify coat colors!
identify dog breeds!
i am not a DNA test or a professional ; i consider myself more knowledgable on dogs than the average person, but i am flawed! this blog is a hobby, and i do it for fun, so please be patient with me. as of current i do these off the top of my head, aided by the internet and sometimes books. feel free to correct me but please be kind!
i consider myself knowledgable on dog behavior and health, but since i am not a professional i do not feel comfortable speaking on these topics. if you ask me about your dog's health or behavior i will tell you to see a vet.
extra disclaimer : if i say your dog is not bred to breed standard it is not an insult. i mean your dog is different than others of their breed , which is not inherently a bad thing! ^_^
extra extra disclaimer : i am not good at identifying mixes or mutts! i operate on the constant assumption that the dog i'm identifying is purebred. this may lead to innacuracy, but if i am told a dog is a mix i will correct the original id.
do you have a DNI ?
not here! i just identify dogs!
i do want people to be aware that i am disabled and queer, so hate for that obviously wont be tolerated. that being said, i dont engage in discourse here: if i make a mistake i will just correct it and any bullying will be blocked! ^_^
This blog is a safe place for therians, pet regressors, kemonomimi, and furries! if you like dogs or want to learn about them you're welcome here!
i don't care if blogs that post NSFW interact but i ask you keep any direct interactions (reblog commentary, replies, etc) safe for work since i am a minor and my blog works with actual animals! i do not answer DMs, please only send asks!
how does your Tagging System work ?
🐾 = inconsistently added. not every post with this thing will be tagged.
'#not dogs ' -> not dog stuff !
' #dog id ' -> dog breed identification !
' #breed info ' -> information on a dog breed !
' #coat id ' -> fur color identification !
🐾' #askbox ' -> asks !
🐾' #unsure ' -> breed id's i'm not totally sure on !
🐾' #puppy ' puppies !
' #psa ' -> posts that arent dogs but will directly affect the blog !
i tag every post with the breed its about for easy searching!
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Dont tag anything with detrans please. Detransition is not a fetish. They are real people
Sorry, I'm a bit confused about what you're asking me to do, exactly?
Is stuff that's tagged "detrans kink" and such showing up in the sfw detrans tag? If so, would it help to leave out the space and tag as "detranskink"?
If you mean I accidentally tagged a post just "detrans" please point me to it because I can't find it.
Please be assured I don't mean to make detransitioners feel uncomfortable with the way I engage in this kink online/publicly.
I don't particularly care about getting into ~discourse~ on here and maybe this is where this post should end but the second part of your message has made me want to express my thoughts on this. I'm putting it under a cut so everyone who doesn't want to see it can ignore it.
"Detransition is not a fetish"
I don't mean to sound condescending and yeah, maybe the correct term would be kink, which is what I am calling it, but I can't seem to remember the distinction(s) between the ~official~ definitions of those terms for the life of me. But. You can't deny that people get off on this.
Fantasizing about it, mostly, and there is no harm in doing that. I do not have the authority to judge if doing "more" than that is harmful, but I'd say that consenting adults tend to be responsible enough to keep it as safe as possible.
The people who get off on this are trans people, and from what I've gathered detransitioners, too. (I mean I guess there are some cis people on here/into this but I'm not here to debate their ~validity~ and as you came into my ask box and I am not cis I don't think it applies here anyways.)
Just because something makes you uncomfortable doesn't mean it's harmful and nobody should be allowed to do it.
I think there is a point to be made here that when people on here say "detransition kink" half of the time they just mean "feminization kink".
I guess you could argue that being into that is ~mysogynistic~ but in my humble opinion people are allowed to play around with their gender (expression) in kinky ways as they are allowed to do so in every other aspect of their life.
I think the term "detransition kink" came around and stuck to
1. Differentiate it from the aforementioned feminization kink / cis people that are into that
2. Include a CNC aspect with "Forced Detrans" kink.
"They are real people"
Yes, and this kink isn't about them (if they don't want it to be, as I mentioned, as far as I know there are detransitioners who are actually into this).
This kink is for trans people and detransitioners who want to engage with their fear/experiences sexually, in order to reclaim something that can be traumatic. Trauma often leads to kinks, and that's not a bad thing (trauma sucks, but let's face it, it's a part of life) if everyone involved engages with it safely.
I don't want to give the impression I don't care about or don't respect detransitioners. I'd assume I share some of their experiences, otherwise they probably wouldn't have transitioned in the first place. I don't mean them any harm.
So, yeah, of course I know they're real people.
I am a real trans person, too, and I still get off on being called a fakeboy and getting misgendered on here, lol. That doesn't mean I, or any other trans person, if they're into this kink or not, is not valid in their identity.
This is just playing pretend, or exploring yourself playfully.
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miquella thoughts below, dunno if its sote spoilers, but 2 be safe dont read if u dont want spoilers
imo there was a differing understanding when it was said that miquella "compels affection"
some people took it to be, idk the word, passive? i guess? like in the way a nice person "compels" affection- the affection is born naturally from the person being pleasant
some people took it (me included) to be an active thing. the "compelling" in the sense of like Forcing someone to feel affection, via a spell or manipulation or something else. less nautral born affection, and more forced. i personally took it this way bc i reasoned that a different word would have been used otherwise ("inspired" affection, maybe), but i was willing to be proven wrong bc localisation IS hard and keeping non-explicit implications in tact can be hard.
i have no other opinions bc i just don't care about miquellas character(?) that much. im interested in his actions (i do think its interesting that even within marikas own family she could not 100% keep everyone on side due to her brutality), but as a character i don't really think hes interesting.
obviously this doesn't account for all the other descriptions of him as kind and stuff, which may have convinced me to the other side if i believed these were Actual descriptors and not Relative descriptors (as in, i do believe he was kindER than the others and was the best option for a lot of people, but i do not believe he was kind full stop), and again this is just an interpretation thing, and i may be completely wrong and have missed things that unequivocably paint him as a Good person.
i do believe he helped malenia from pure goodness just bc i know how siblings are, and i think THAT aspect of him is pretty uncomplicated, and i believe initially he started with a hopeful goodness, but that it waned over time to a more "my ideas are kinder and the world will be better, and i will throw myself to the moral wolves to enact this better world"- this is more what i mean about i do not think he is kind and good at present.
anywayz, ill leave miquella discourse to ardent miquella lovers this is just my observations x
#my posts#sote spoilers#i guess?#not tagging this really bc its just me laying out my thots#and isnt any real analysis#souls
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@ anon thanks for letting me know, i took the post down, sorry!
@ other anon, because it is a slur, even if used in a reclaimed, positive context, and can be very triggering to many people, i will continue to use that tag unless an op specifically clarifies that they don’t want people using that phrase. i wouldn’t not warn for the d slur, for example, even if i sometimes call myself that in a positive/humorous way? bc i know a lot of people can be seriously upset by that, i know it’s often a word used a lot of venom. i just don’t want anyone to be exposed to distressing content because they don’t think to blacklist a different version of the tw. i can use both variants of it, actually, to be extra safe. it’s nothing personal
#drama jic //#dont want discourse about this i just want 2 keep people safe#if seeing a reclaimed slur tagged as a slur upsets you then i don't recommend following#and if anyone asks i will just delete the posts#but i don't want people acting like im malicious bc i want to be thorough with trigger warnings
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on: rin/haru and what “grooming” actually means
apparently there is some, hm, discourse going around at the moment claiming that rin groomed haru, crediting this to their 2 year age gap. there seems to be a pretty huge fandom-wide misunderstanding of what “grooming” actually means, so i wanted to talk about rin and haru and compare it to an actual instance of grooming in fruits basket: kyoko/katsuya
tw for discussions of pedophilia, grooming, abuse and references to csa
let’s put legality aside for a moment, and here’s why: legality =/= morality. the federal age of consent in japan is 13. it doesnt take a genius to come to the conclusion that that’s a seriously wack law, a 13 year old cannot consent to sex. however, just like in the united states, each prefecture sets their own local age of consent. fruits basket is set in tokyo, and in tokyo prefecture the age of consent is 18. japan does not have romeo and juliet laws like the US, so in tokyo prefecture neither rin nor haru would legally be able to consent to one another. so let’s set those laws aside because they are irrelevant to this particular conversation. when it comes to kyoko/katsuya, that relationship is illegal both in japan as well as the united states. in fact, katsuya would at the very least lose his job if this happened in america. however age gap relationships are unfortunately still a cultural norm in many places in the world, japan included. as an american i find this pretty shocking, but it is the reality of it
for clarity: haru is a high school sophomore (15 or 16) and rin is a high school senior (17 or 18) during the events of ep 18. kyoko is an eighth grader (13 or 14) and katsuya is 22 when they initially meet.
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so lets talk about the stages of grooming.
-rin did not target haru. yes, they both suffer (different degrees) of isolation, neglect, and abuse, but arguably rin is the more vulnerable one in this relationship. rin and haru are childhood friends as well as social peers, and their relationship grew from a place of mutual like and spending age-appropriate time together throughout their lives. haru offers rin support when she is in a bad place throughout their friendship, and presumably rin offers some sort of emotional support to haru in the same way, though we dont see this onscreen. so we’ve already failed step one
-kyoko is a victim of abuse. she is isolated and neglected by her parents. she has a chaotic home life and a lack of parental oversight, driving her to seek out bonds in an unhealthy environment (the gang). katsuya sees that she is a vulnerable, struggling child and targets her specifically after meeting her.
-does not apply. the only time rin or haru interact with the other’s parents onscreen is when haru is yelling at rin’s parents. we don’t know how haru’s parents feel about rin, but based on the way the sohma adults around rin talk about her and the other zodiacs, i think it’s safe to assume its mild disinterest to an actual dislike. we simply do not know
-doesn’t really apply to kyoko/katsuya either since kyoko’s parents are so absent
-this does not happen at all during rin and haru’s relationship. they are affectionate towards each other, but consensually and in an age-appropriate way
-katsuya doesn’t gift-give, but he does use flattery. he makes comments about kyoko’s physical appearance and her intelligence and gets her alone both in and outside of school to talk in multiple instances. he is purposefully fulfilling kyoko’s need for a positive adult influence in her life, seeing as she has none, and she starts to rely on that because she’s a child and he is being kind to her (from her perspective)
-i’m running out of things to say about haru/rin because this doesnt happen! yes they hang out alone together but again they are social peers. their age gap is simply not significant enough for this to be inappropriate.
-katsuya waits until kyoko is completely isolated from her family and her peers, having left the gang and immediately disowned by her parents, to do this. he shows up AT HER HOUSE at her absolute most vulnerable moment, getting kicked out her home at 14, and informs her that they are getting married. so now she is cut off from her immediate family, cut off from her only friends, and to a child it’s understandable why the only way out of this situation would be through katsuya. not only does she trust him after months of grooming, she basically has no choice but to trust the one and only adult in her life. she’s not even old enough to get a job (japanese labor laws prohibit anyone under the age of 15 from having a job)
-yes, rin and haru do have sex. they are both teenagers. it is not something where rin is exploiting haru’s curiosity about sex or vice versa, it’s two people in the same peer group consensually exploring it together. they are both on the young side for sure, but there is canonically consent (haru asking permission to kiss her). teenagers having consensual sex with other teenagers is not abusive in any way
-we don’t know when kyoko and katsuya’s relationship gets sexual, but kyoko was underage for sure. she’s 18/19 when katsuya dies and tohru was 3 or 4, which means when kyoko got pregnant she was 16 at the absolute oldest, and i’m sure they had a sexual relationship prior to the pregnancy. katsuya would’ve been around 24 when kyoko got pregnant
-this simply does not happen between rin and haru. they keep it a secret for a while, but not because rin is trying to control haru. once they’re found out haru talks openly to yuki about his sexual relationship with rin. the secrecy wasn’t a control tactic, they were trying to protect themselves from outside forces
-obviously there is no secrecy here either, but after katsuya dies it’s apparent that kyoko did feel that katsuya was the only person who could meet her needs. the way katsuya took advantage of kyoko’s social isolation and became the only person in her life as well as the person who supported her financially clearly took its toll on kyoko, who is despondent and floundering after his death. she falls into a deep depression and neglects her own health as well as the health of her child. she has no idea how to function without katsuya, as is the design of someone who grooms a child in the way he did.
tl;dr rin and haru dont even come close to meeting the definition of grooming. yes, they are both young, but they are also both in the same peer group as well as both being in bad home situations. their relationship is grown out of a well-established friendship and they mutually support each other. when their relationship turns sexual, they do so from a place of love and verbally consent to one another
kyoko/katsuya is an example of actual child grooming, so much so that it meets nearly every stage to a T. it is disrespectful to peg rin of all people as a groomer when there is such a glaringly obvious example of how a groomer actually acts within fruits basket.
i don’t know how people came to the conclusion that rin is grooming haru, but its an incorrect take and tbh reeks of misogyny! hope this was helpful to people who are confused.
#takes a huge bong rip#ohhh the discourse#rin sohma#haru sohma#katsuya honda#kyoko honda#meta???#i suppose
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I’m super glad I follow the right Harry blogs like we all respect him and want him to live his best life 👌🏻👌🏻 and also have the vacation he deserves after filming fuckin 2 movies!! Lol anywho hope you are having a good night and thank god that the nj ny heat wave is over its been fuckin brutal
yeah, like, sure i have my own opinions about this whole thing but i don't care about those opinions enough to post about it or take anons about it because like...who cares?? also i just really empathize with him in the sense that i wouldn't want people talking about my relationship the way some people do--it's awful. no one said u have to like who he dates or whatever but also....no one cares what u think lol they sure as shit dont it's just very easy to keep things to yourself :)
but like always, there will never be any harry relationship discourse on this blog :) it's none of my business :) we're all safe here :) other than me vague posting about how people need to stop talking about it lol
#obviously the u in this instance is not actually u anon#but anons ive seen on my dash and stuff#also it's like 88 degress today....i want to die#AND ITS MUGGY#its awful#sunday will finally be low 70s and i cant wait
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I'm sorry if I sound aggressive I promise I don't mean it that way but I noticed that a few reblogs are from aphobic accounts and I'm wondering if you're aware of this or if this was intentional? Because Yikes I Dont Feel Safe!!
ok so. I figured I would have to explain this at some point and I'm not like. Defending this. but I have a longstanding bad habit of mostly using Tumblr to indulge my hunger for Bad Takes, so I spend a lot of time scrolling the blogs of people I specifically disagree with (mostly hardcore exclusionists or kin drama blogs) I usually do this quietly bc my interest isn't in getting into fights and turning into a discourse blog, so I mostly just screencap the ones I find the most angering or ridiculous and send/describe them to my partner or sibling for a Cathartic Rant. However there are two reasons I often reblog stuff without commentary as I'm scrolling
1) I need to close the app but I want to keep looking at the blog so I'm kind of bookmarking my place (I try to choose harmless stuff to reblog for that, like pictures of cute animals or something)
2) I see something I agree with very strongly or think is a good post AND that I don't think I'll see again/remember but I want to keep. Again, I try to minimise the amount of Discourse stuff I reblog, but that isn't hard tbh because as I say I'm on these blogs specifically BECAUSE I disagree with their premises.
I've never particularly believed that reblogging from someone implies an agreement with their general beliefs (although I will make an exception for, say, TERFs posting about feminism or lesbianism bc I think that's a fairly fundamental route into that way of thinking) so I'm relatively free and easy with the reblog button. If you see me reblog something that is in itself offensive or hurtful or harmful, that's something I'd want to be hauled up on, but if you see a post that looks fine but is from a dodgy source, I probably know that it's a dodgy source because it will have popped up while I'm indulging my Bad Take Addiction.
Again, this is a very general thing and not intended to excuse or justify this habit - if this explanation seems like a shitty one to you it probably is, and if this habit makes you feel unsafe then I'd recommend unfollowing/blocking me because I'm unlikely to stop my Bad Take Hunts and corollary Good Post Reblogs From Bad Take Havers.
But as regards my views and what I find useful, helpful, meaningful and acceptable outlooks, I hope people will see where I'm coming from in the context of what I post that's explicitly about this stuff, especially because I came back onto Tumblr in order to express shock that there's a Mechanisms exclusionist community bc that seems......dumb as hell.
If I was gonna sum up my general position on this stuff, it would be "exclusionism and obsessive gatekeeping in the queer community is unhelpful, lacking any recognition of the nuance and breadth of human sexuality, and ultimately self-defeating." There's an absolutism and an obsession with hard boundaries going on there that I find really unproductive, and what that means in real terms is that a lot of people are subjected to aggression, invalidating and dismissive treatment, and alienation from a community which could be a supportive space.
#aphobia#discourse tw#ultimately my answer boils down to its a bad habit and i don't for myself believe that reblog source equals blog endorsement#if what you're asking is 'are you an ace exclusionist' or 'do you have a problem with aro/ace ppl' then like no not so much
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I should have clarified but this is mainly about harassment and threats people do know about, stuff that has been told to people and have been talked about, things people know about and have known about for a while now and barley acknowledge if at all. This isn't something im suddenly bringing up because of current harassment but I've been talking to people and sending asks about for a while now but I usually get ignored, ostracized, and if acknowledged barley at all. And after seeing some of
(2) the reactions to this and other criticisms on how people handle the harassment of others in this fandom I don't feel safe at all openly talking about it even around people aho are seemingly here to "help". Im not trying to ignore anyone's struggles or harassment or even dismiss is when bring to light more examples of harassment and bigotry people in this fandom have faced ot just people who certain price associate with. Im sorry for bothering you or anyone im not trying to hurt people..
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you are not bothering me i just do not think i can give you what you want here because again i know only what is given to me if there is in house drama i am not really a part of it i cant even really engage in anything off tumblr
i cant call people out for things i dont know about and i cant figure out what people are talking about when theyre being vague
and i will admit there are a few things that i do not engage with for example i try to keep any interactions with minors short and professional since im an adult and I don’t talk to minor beetlebabe shippers period you all saw that one dude right the one i called out for commenting on my stuff i tend to leave minors alone if they aren’t on my side so if youve been bullied by a fellow minor im pretty powerless since any criticism i may have for a minor may easily be mistaken for harassment or grooming which is something i heard about but wasn’t actively a part of
anyway what im getting you dont have to sugarcoat things with me it just wastes time
ive been engaging in discourse for around two months now and i feel like i have hit most of the major scandals and controversies but anything from before june i was a far-away bystander with very few opinions it was only after i sent an ask to a beetlebabe shippers and the response i got made me so angry that i decided to fight back
im not super fond of having to defend myself obviously i am clearly agitated
if you honestly feel like your needs aren’t being met talk to me or consider trying to talk things out with people involved but also keep in mind that sometimes there isnt a solution for something other than an apology and you have to choose to accept it and move on and continue to have a relationship or not and theres nothing wrong with stepping out and theres nothing wrong with talking about what troubles you
i know confrontation sucks but you get nowhere in life without it
im not a superhero im a troll blog who calls people out when im asked to or when I see something that makes me mad and if something happened to you that I didn’t see i am very sorry and i am willing to talk about it
but anon and vague isnt the way to do that im sorry I cant form an opinion on what i dont know about
sorry again for being snippy
sleep well when you get to it
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can you explain what's going on right now? i keep seeing big IT blogs talking about some discourse or something but i have no idea what they're talking about other than it involves you lol
alright i like. i truly do not like having diScOurSE out in public because i’m not one to air out my dirty laundry 24/7 but seeing as how it was brought into public against my will i feel like the least i can do is clear up the situation for those who’ve been seeing the posts.
i’m putting this under the cut bc it’s long. tws for some biphobia, brief mention of transphobia and, at the end, a rape mention.
so if you don’t know: hi, i’m migz, i’m an it fandom blogger. its okay, i know, its really cool. part of my shtick here is that i like to turn normal thirst tags into works of art for the sake of comedy. perhaps you’ve seen some of my highlights from my “fhg” tag - perhaps your brain has been spared. either way, it became kind of “my thing” around the third or fourth week (mid nov) of me having this blog. at first, i tagged just about every ask i got mentioning the thirst tags with “bill hader” - they had to do with him, so why not tag him? it would draw more like minded people! about two days into that i got a message asking me to tag my nsfw. i am a big dumb idiot, and apologize for not initially doing it. i havent had a following bigger than like 10 in several years and completely spaced on basic etiquette. so by the end of november i was tagging everything applicable with “notsfw” and “bill hader”.
now you’re caught up.
on december 1st i got this message from user billhaderanti:
now i want to start by saying i absolutely was in the wrong here. i didn’t even think about how many people were being subjected to the asks i was getting - especially ones who had no idea they were all jokes. i don’t track the bill hader tag, so it just didn’t even occur to me - that’s ignorance on my part, and to anyone who was subjected to the terrors of me before my tagging system: i am genuinely sorry. i relay the same sentiment in my response, though you can tell i’m on edge.
and they replied:
clearly they Were offended by it but thats.. not the point. at this point, im feeling Really weird about the whole interaction, but still understanding, because again - i GET it. i know my posts are gross - that’s the point. it doesn’t make it excusable, though, which is why i understand why people are offended. so i responded with the only solution i Knew would keep us both safe and happy posting on our own blogs.
so i thought this would be the end of things! i’d been pretty anxious lately already since i’d started to receive anons telling me i was gross and whore-ish for thirst posting in this way (i delete all of those, so if ur thinking about sending one, i guess no one’s stopping you but it won’t be seeing the light of the dashboard). i’m unsure if it was immediately or a few hours later, seeing as how i have a bad concept of time and the post-dates are right on the edge between nov 30 and dec 1, but i went to their blog - because anyone who has been on the internet knows the opportunity to vague post is near irresistible. and...what do ya know
fair! it’s their blog. however i am an emotionally fragile egg girl and immediately got freaked out. the odds that they were the only one who thought this were low. and, again, i’ve been very open on my blog about how important it is to respect boundaries; my posts are absolutely prone to breaking those boundaries people have created for themselves.
so i made my own, semi-vague post, letting my following know (and i’m pretty sure i’d answered asks about it before, but this is going to be long enough w/o me searching those up too) that i understood if they wanted to block me or unfollow or whatever - people need to create their own safe spaces. the tension is pretty clear in the tags, i’m not trying to hide that. i felt that the way this woman slid into my dm’s was pretty abrasive (just my opinion/how it made me personally feel) and i let myself be a lil emotional about it in the tags of my post.
alright! maybe this is the end. maybe we both go our separate ways and post happily on our own blogs... except it’s not the end. later in the day (some of this was happening like 1/2am, so now its Day day, i believe - again, not good w time passage lol)
clearly, i’m upset. my groupchat double checked that i didn’t get too emotional in my response - did i mention im anxious about discourse lol - and apparently.. it did the trick. she didn’t message me again. great. it was over.
at this point, i decided i needed to make an even bigger change. so a few days after i’d calmed down i created an entirely new tag for my thirst posts so if people hadn’t already hidden the notsfw posts or just blocked me outright, they’d have a third option to escape the madness. at this point, id had my blog about 6? weeks, but there were still 2k posts for me to sift through - some of them were completely untagged. i also had to do it post by post, because one of xkits features - the mass re-tagger - was getting blogs deleted for some reason, and i wasn’t going to do that. so i spent a few days going through all 2k+ posts, adding the “fhg” tag.
YEEHAW! a brand new tagging system, no more hopping into the bill hader tag (minus one or two really funny, not super explicit asks, like the bill hader farquaad meme), and, tbf, i’d completely put this woman out of my mind. i don’t seek out drama and do my best to stay in my lane. yesterday, i checked my activity for the first time in awhile since id put out a couple new original posts that had started to get traction and i Love reading tags. i noticed a mutual had @’d me, and realized i havent checked my @’s in...ever, maybe. i see a post from my good pal billhaderanti.
since i dont follow them and never check my @’s, i’d completely missed it. however, once i did see it, i was horrified. id gone through all that fucking work to keep my blog My Blog and also respect everyone’s boundaries and it still hadn’t been enough. i’d been awake for almost 24 hours and went. a little crazy. and i didn’t reply immediately because i just had no words. i sent it to my friends because i... i just wasn’t going to be able to figure it out myself.
there’s a lot to unpack in this post alone, but whatever, i’m gonna put my own grievances with the immaturity of 1. making a callout post to begin with when i’d been nothing but civil 2. making a callout post about something as (in the grand scheme of Life) minor as some tags where i refer to a someone’s genitals as a “whack pack” and 3. making a callout post in such a rude way - aside. at the end, she calls me (and whoever else!) a demonic mlw (man loving woman, we assumed, and then later confirmed with a post further back on her blog).
which - yeah, we started scrolling. at first we were looking for more vague blogs, and then we just...started finding things. billhaderanti is a self proclaimed lesbian separatist, which... fine. but it’s already pretty clear that this woman hates me on some level simply because i am a bi woman (demonic mlw, remember!) which is just. damn man i can’t believe we are still fighting the biphobic fight lol. so the more we scrolled, the more we uncovered - and not just the biphobic / vaguely mtf transphobic things they posted (or put in tags), but we also found that they had their OWN thirst tags. certainly not as hyperbolically comedic as mine, but they were there, talking about his body and his person the same (and, frankly, a bit creepier for other reasons) as mine.
there’s one post in particular that snatched my wig in it’s creepiness - and i say creepiness in the sense that it feels personal. like this woman feels like she knows bill to some degree where she can say these things. my tags have always had a sense of distance, as they’re written for humor. and maybe this particular post was written for comedic purposes, but it doesn’t read that way, and if it WAS, then she has no right to call ME out for MY comic tags and posts.
i’ll let it speak for itself, mostly because i don’t want to read it again.
i also won’t be going through her blog again to find the posts with biphobic and other Interesting:tm: tags because there are plenty and i just really! want to be done with the whole ordeal! her blog is public and i’m sure you can all find it and look to your heart’s content.
feeling a bit feral and a bit pissed off now that we knew the depth of how rotten this woman’s vibes were, a couple of my pals made a post or two similar to what my tag’s are like except turned up to eleven (if possible) - and tagged them with “bill hader” (and notsfw!!). yes, a bit childish, but at this point, the entire situation was childish, and making jokes was truly the only way we were going to get through it. another vague post went up on her blog soon after.
talking down to us, calling us children, and then for whatever reason calling us virgins... whatever, weird post. around this time most of us (est) went to bed, because it was nearing 3 or 4 in the morning.
and then today happened. i woke up fresh and ready for the day after a wonderful 4 hours of sleep and found that jane had made an incredibly intelligent post in response to the situation. i won’t ss it, but i’ll LINK in case you missed it. attached there in the reblog is my own response. i think they can speak for themselves.
after that, things were kind of jumbled, since i wasn’t online a lot and when i was i was Not checking my activity simply because i was afraid of what i’d see. for the most part, it ended up just being support (which i am very grateful to all of you for - it means a lot that you all enjoy my content to any degree).
there was some more vague posting from both “““““sides”””””” of the “““““argument”””””” - mostly just people restating the fact that this is a public space and we should All be aware of how we effect others. i still hadn’t heard directly from billhaderanti, so i assumed we’d all be dropping and disengaging and moving on. i still wasn’t blocked, though, so who really knew what would happen.
eventually, it culminated in this last post. tw for mentions of rape
i’m going to start by saying that
1. there are nearly no teenagers that were involved in this. im turning 23 in january and most of my friends are 20+. maybe one or two are 19.
2. none of us sent any sexually violent asks - most of us didn’t send asks at all. i believe one or two of my friends admitted to sending asks however they assured me their nature wasn’t bad; as far as i know, everyone remained civil in whatever went on (again, unclear to me as to what was being sent; no one was actively posting or talking about it. if billhaderanti wishes to elaborate, they can, but i don’t have anything to put in).
3. before i finish this, i would like to apologize to billhaderanti. as a comedian - not just my stupid tags, i mean in real life, too - i know that humor can hurt. it’s not always funny, it’s not just stupid hahas. sometimes things that are supposed to be jokes just hit people differently and cause bad things. i recognize that. i never meant to trigger you (if you’re reading this) or cause you any severe mental/emotional harm. i apologize for my humor bringing up your trauma, and i never meant for that. regardless of my own thoughts and opinions about the nature of my posts/the thirst tags themselves, they hurt you, and i’m sorry.
anyway, i’m going to wrap this up (i’m bad at endings, what can i say! steven king and i took the same writer’s class!). if you read all this... sorry. i probably won’t be taking any asks about it, because i find the whole “drama” of this to be stupid and rooted in some seriously biphobic issues this fully grown woman has.
tldr; i attempted to contain my blog so this woman could exist and function safely on her blog, but it wasn’t enough for her, so she called me out, and then some of the fandom called Her out for being biphobic and mean and overall just immature about the situation. as of now, she’s yet to block me, though her and her wife have blocked a few of my friends. her wife continues to clown on my friends. this post was made for clarity’s sake. the end, i’m getting a drink.
#discourse#biphobia tw#transphobia tw#rape tw#ok goodbye im done with this im back to#only posting gay clown movie#Anonymous
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Your own ocs
tmy favorite female character
Out of ALL my ocs,,, thats so hard. I adore Mary, Isabelle, Chords, Anna, and Ezra a lot tho!!
My favorite male character
*points at the jones twins* can i get more of these little traumatized bitches even tho jasons nb-
Man fuck it in adding this
my favorite enby character
Jason, Artie, Kas, Them. I love these guys. Theyre all wild
My favorite book/season/etc
Im gonna do this as ‘what story i’ve made is my favorite’ and thats probably the old fantasy world i made with my friend!!! It was so much fun to make and develop, i love making stories and worlds with people
My favorite cast member
Haha thats me
My favorite ship
I could write an essay on the ships i adore. And i will they’ll be under a read more at the bottom,
A character I’d die defending
Uhhh None!! My characters have unlikable qualities and fuck up all the time! My favorite ocs are assholes! I dont feel the need to defend them, some of them are bastards and should be addressed as such
A character I just can’t sympathize with
Im not sure! Not all my characters are sympathetic at all, but I have next to no characters that I like,,,, despise? Besides Gerald whos a shitty abusive dad but thats abt it!! Fuck gerald. I don’t ‘sympathize’ with many of my characters tbh!! I feel bad for them sometimes, but they usually get good endings!
A character I grew to love
I SWEAR JASON HAS THE BIGGEST GLOW UP IN TERMS OF CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT AND REWORKING LIKE MY GUY IM SO SORRY YOU WERE ORIGINALLY JUST AN EDGY ‘gonna kill people cause im evil’ BUT ITS OK THEY’RE BETTER NOW.
My anti otp
obv anything goin against my ocs sexualities and also anything just,,,, grody i Despise. its never happened but i amn ready to fight
ALSO
I dont think i can ever forget the time i was talkin to someone(dont remember who) abt Hell Office and the comment was made that jonas and jamison would be cute together and let me tell you that was a one hit ko for a multitude of reasons. The main one being that it made me realize if Hell Office was an actual story with a large enough fandom,,,, some people,,, somewhere,,, would ship them. No Matter What I Would Say they are two white men with a power imbalanced relationship, someone would ship them. the discourse would be Unbridled. My sorrow unlimited. Good thing im bad at focusing long enough to make a popular comic and jonas is in a Healthy Relationship that is on the list below!
Also jamison is aro/ace but that feels less important than the fact hes the worst esp to jonas
ANYWAYS to the ships i like
Jonas/Phoenix
Obvious one! Love these dumbasses. i just think they’re neat and im glad they wound up together. i cant comment much on phoenix’s side of this since they’re not my oc, (Owned by my pal @theartsyskeleton !!) but its a great thing for Jonas. Jonas is a grumpy jackass who up until now didn’t know what he was going to be up until he met Phoenix. fuck, i didnt either!! but they’re together and i think they’re great together. Phoenix’s kindness works well with Jonas’s. y’know. Grumpiness. and they make each other happy!! its fantastic!!
Maia/Glacius
i wont go completely off on this one but i love them!!!! they’re great parents!! again! cant comment too much from Maia’s side bc she belongs to Willow, but Glacius saw a lady who was genuinely kind and he fell in love so fast, but just didn’t say shit bc he didn’t wanna bother her and he loved being her friend!! This ship is just.. friends to lovers in the sweetest way
Jason/Desmond
THEY GOT THEIR ISSUES BUT,,,, They’re good. or. they try to be good! I like this ship because im biased they’re just. two hurt people trying to hang onto someone they can trust who shows them love. On Jason’s side, they’ve been on their own for so long and has never had anyone see them as anything other than the ‘weird person down the street’ or ‘childish.’ Desmond is someone who 1. Showed romantic interest in them, 2. treated them as a mature equal, and 3. was just,,, the first person they made an emotional connection with in a long long time. On Desmond’s side, he’s spent his whole life trying to look after everyone around him and keep them safe from people like Xiana and Isla, and Jason is one of the first people that have been willing to protect him, and they make him feel safe and heard when he wants to talk/vent about everything hes been through.
Their relationship definitely isn’t perfect, though, and I know this! Jason has convinced themself that Desmond is a perfect person who can’t be wrong, and Desmond still tries to take care of everyone and fix everything around him, including him not wanting to tell Jason things they’re doing wrong and just wanting to help them out of every hard situation they’re in.Their relationship isn’t great!! They’ve decided each other are their only emotional support and want to go through everything with each other so they’re also pretty clingy! But! I still think this relationship is interesting and i like them they just need Work
#actually im not finished#gonna go off a lil more#i forgot to add this fact abt jason! theyre a jealous and clingy motherfucker#theyve never HAD a datemate before! they dont know how to Act so theyre clingy#not to exactly a Toxic degree but its there#also Glacius doesnt know how to even start a romantic relationship bc 1 hes never been in one and 2 hes never rly been taught How#They Start#so he just quietly pines from the corner and cries when maia smiles
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i have to talk about the cannibal discourse
so, first off, i think twitter user/professional storyboard artist batshaped is creepy. for me there is a simultaneous fascination/repulsion with her artwork. i first discovered her through her animal crossing fanart, which is as well-drawn as all of her stuff. her style is very cartoony and expressive and i want to keep looking at it, but the content is, uh.
for example her AC fanart is centered around office cat Raymond being delighted at getting punched in the face by fellow cat Katt. it really horns him up so there are wacky antics where he tries to get her to punch him in the face/step on him etc, because she’s not really that into it. i think it’s the combination of cutesy child-friendly characters, kink, and coercion that i find, frankly, disgusting. imagine if it was a series of comics about Raymond trying to take creepshots of Katt’s feet.
anyway i just dont follow her on twitter so it’s nbd. but then she gets outed as a cannibal.
actually what transpired is that she occasionally posts about wanting to try human meat, and this last time people decided to cancel her for it. i dont know if she recently crossed the threshold of number of followers that made her an OK target to pile on or what.
actually before i knew about the pile on i had seen a different tweet from her and decided to check out her timeline because like i said, im drawn to her work. i saw this exchange.
my response was complete disgust. the combination of the way she describes human meat and the least funny joke ive ever seen in my frickin life is just. ugh. i think i kind of hate this lady.
but anyway i still dont follow or interact with her in anyway so i just stopped looking at her timeline and went on my way. i didnt know there as backlash until i saw her tweets reposted by an artist on my timeline.
the discourse going on in her mentions is a mess. there is:
1) arguing back and forth about whether it is unhealthy/dangerous to consume human meat
2) arguing back and forth about whether it’s immoral or not to consume donated human meat (batshaped calls herself an “aspiring ethical cannibal”)
3) arguing back and forth about whether or not batshaped is joking
for number 1, whether or not human meat is safe to eat is not a good basis for giving someone grief over being a cannibal, because bad shit is a regular part of most people’s diets. number 2 is just a really boring conversation im not interested in (my problem with her tweets is they make me uncomfortable, not that i think they make her a bad person). but number 3 kind of baffles me.
there’s a contradiction in saying “my friend always eats weird meat, but is joking about eating human meat.” it’s not a joke! she really wants to eat human meat! and that’s fine (maybe, again i dont care about that discussion).
anyway when it comes down to it it’s absurd that people are harassing her and trying to get her fired for being an aspiring cannibal. i understand the backlash for her saying nasty gross shit, but people need to learn about the unfollow/block buttons before making the leap to “she draws really detailed teeth so she’s probably a child predator.”
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hey so this will probably come off as discourse-y but im genuinely curious as to what the answer is and dont know who to ask it to really. just putting that upfront so if you dont want to deal with what might end up coming off a bit negative. but anyway im trans and dysphoric and a transmed (i dont call myself that but its part of the ask) and obviously i think dysphoria is necessary to be trans bc its all i know ig. just like. how does it work? to be trans and nondsyphoric? part 1
First off, I’m gonna say thank you for engaging in good faith here and not coming in with the intention of being a raging dickhead.
This is a bit of a complex question. Since you say you’re a transmed, though, I’m going to make the not-unreasonable assumption that, when you say “dysphoria” here, what you’re talking about is body dysphoria, since this is usually the talking point transmeds push. Body dysphoria is often a sign of being trans, but it isn’t the only one. This is the issue; y’all (and I’m not saying this to ascribe arguments to you specifically, but transmeds as a whole) think that people should have to undergo medical transition in order to be considered trans and respected as such, which completely disregards all of us who are either too poor to transition, wouldn’t be safe if we did, can’t for other medical reasons, and so on and so on. There are myriad reasons someone might not be able to medically transition, and none of those make them less trans than you or me. And the focus on passing is harmful further, because there are lots of us who will never be able to pass for one reason or another. We shouldn’t have to undergo hormone treatments, surgeries, electrolysis, or anything else to be recognized as trans.
That’s body dysphoria. Now let’s talk about gender dysphoria as a whole. Obviously, none of us are the gender we were assigned at birth--that’s what being trans is--but how do we know this? For many of us, the answer to that question is gender dysphoria, but what does that really mean? Well, first we have to know the difference between sex and gender, because they are two separate things. First off, they’re both socially constructed. While our genes, hormones, and the ever-so-often-mentioned chromosomes do determine our appearances, assigning labels and assuming roles based on these characteristics isn’t something inherent to our biology. On top of this, a binary view of sex is factually incorrect, since intersex people--ya know--exist. I’m sure you already knew this, but I felt it necessary to include for anyone else reading. As for gender, it’s also a social construct. In the West--that is, america/europe--society typically recognizes 2 genders: man and woman. However, different societies recognize different kinds and numbers of genders, and have throughout all of human history (the Talmud, for instance, includes 6 genders: Zachar, Nekevah, Androgynos, Tumtum, Ay’lonit, and Saris). So, seeing as gender is something forced upon us by society, and not something inherent to our biology, gender dysphoria becomes rather simple: a desire to fit the social role assigned to a gender other than the one you were assigned at birth. Keep in mind that “desire” does not equate to “choice;” like you said, being trans isn’t a choice. But that desire to fit a different social role is all it means to be trans.
Now, reading this you might think what I’m saying is that gender dysphoria, but not body dysphoria, is necessary to be trans, but that isn’t the case either. Dysphoria denotes a sort of distress related to these feelings, not the feelings themselves. While many of us do experience dysphoria, suffering/distress/negativity is not an inherent part of anything mentioned above. And while it may seem like the logical development of these feelings, that isn’t always the case. What most of us tend to focus on is gender euphoria, or a feeling of happiness/satisfaction when allowed to present as our actual gender rather than the one we were assigned at birth. Sure, you may not have a problem putting on a suit, and being called “sir” might not give you severe anxiety or depression, but the fact that you much prefer wearing skirts and being referred to as “ma’am” is all that you need to know that your identity doesn’t match the one that was assigned to you at birth. Gender is a system of social roles, and wanting to play a different role is all being trans is.
At the end of the day, none of these arguments actually matter, though--mine or yours. What we should be doing, rather than focusing on whether or not someone has dysphoria or questioning what medical procedures they’ve gone through or are going through, is just treating people like they know more about their identities than we do. Because they do. Regardless of whether or not someone has dysphoria, if they say they’re a woman then what’s the harm in calling them one? Or a man? Or both? Or neither? Or a woman one minute but a man the next? Isn’t that what we should be doing a people--making each other happier?
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(1) hello sweetie, love ur blog!! and holy cow, never realised anime discourse ran so deep. If I like something and it doesn't hurt you, why do you have to come to my house and throw shit at my stuff lmaooo. Of course, if it's something I need to be corrected about (aka r*cism etc etc) then yeh I get it. But if I like Dark NS and only see Sasuke as submissive in a realtionship, why does that hurt you so much that you have to come and be all "But hey no, AcTuAllY.." Like dude, I DONT CARE
(2) I'm not the type of person who can't form opinions for myself and only ride onto the hate train/delusional ships train. And I'm also not the type to be so insecure about my opinions and likes that having someone come over to shit on me will deter me and make me re-think everything. I also don't need other people to tell me they think like me to feel validated. So why can't people leave us alone when we say we like certain things and dislike others?
(3) I'm sorry I just came at you with this rant out of nowhere, but man, am I pissed and stressed and anxious and on-edge all the time now because I've been involved and seen so mucg discourse around Naruto stuff I've gotten so, so damn tired. Delusional Sa*uS*ku fangirls, delusional SN fangirls, delusional itachi fans and then the ones who pretend they know everything. I'm tired, tired of having to be so guilt-tripped all the time for liking Sasuke. Seems like it's controversial to like him.
(4) But leaving all that sour and heavy stuff behind, I absolutely adore your blog!! I am so freaking glad it exists, you have no idea how many times I've checked your blog over the years only to be surprised at how similar our interpretations are. It felt like you were reading my mind and putting down thoughts that I didn't dare put down. Thank you so damn much for still being here despite all the shit you had to put up with. and alsooo..I can't stand anything new/b*ruto related so either 🙃
(5) Last one, but I hope you're doing good, staying safe and all that stuff. I realllly wish I could talk to you as a friend, feels like we would vibe so much given how similar our thought processes seem to be xD AHH!! I also adore your fics so damn much, I still remmeber the days I used to refresh ever day just to see if there was an update ;_; I'm so glad you even wrote those fics so I'm not begging or guiltripping for updates, just wanting to put out my thanks. Love you sweetie, tc 😭💕
First of all thanks for the nice words~
Aand...Anon I don’t get one thing. We all saw how crazy anime discourse (or fictional stuff one) can get. You are confident about your opinions (which are totally right because CANON Sas is passive in relationship, he’s the yin cuz kishi said so and ppl who say the opposite, especially SS, SN and SI shippers are just delusional) and you don’t need other ppl’s bullshit discourse...then why do you engage in N*ruto discourse even? I mean, you tried once, you saw how shitty ppl are then why insist? I get that ppl are social beings who want to discuss things they like, I really get it. But it’s obvious how this fandom (and all fandoms tbh) is, so wouldn’t it be better to keep it to yourself? Maybe do something creative like fic writing, drawing if you can, or writing your own essays about Sasuke&co, making sure you block everyone who bitches at you?
Cause idk, it feels the most rational option to stay in the fandom. Idk how long you’ve been into it but I was here when the ending came out and the word ‘discourse’ wasn’t used. I tried discussing, both ending and Sasuke related dynamics, then I realized it was useless, so I channeled my thoughts in my fics or whatever I have been doing since then, and I blocked everyone I found irritating. And it works. I just don’t care about what ppl think, I write for myself but opinions and fics, and the only moment I get angry is when my fics are criticized lol, cause ppl write in such a shitty way but they dare criticize openly or even worse, passive aggressively those who write better only because the fic is not how they’d like it to be lol. f*ck them. Actually I recently learned to ignore some person’s comments on a fic I wrote for another fandom, cause they are an author and they try so hard to be noticed by ‘constructively’ criticizing that fic for things that show they read it not attentively, so the best revenge is to ignore them. So I don’t understand why such simple thing doesn’t work for others.
Same for guilt...idk why someone would make someone feel guilty for liking Sasuke or certain dynamics. Cause if they succeed it means that they found some ‘internalized’ guilt that existed already, which I don’t get. I’m so very glad that reading my stuff you find it so similar to your thoughts...and this is smth that makes me think that if you write your own thoughts someone will feel the same and they’ll come to you. You never know who’s reading your stuff after all, and even though there’s plenty of ass*oles there are also fans who are desperate to find the good stuff lol. Lol it’s so cool to realize how some ppl appreciate something ‘controversial’ or weird, like a rarepair, or an opinion. And btw liking bottomSas isn’t either, it’s canon lol.
I’m glad you like my blog, as I was saying, and everything else, it’s cool to have the same thought process and thanks for not asking for updates, some fics like In Power...I won’t update anyway (I’m kinda bored of Itachicentric stuff and positive Itasasu), others I will when I have time and inspiration as I’m also writing for another fandom. But everything I left on hiatus had its ‘season ending’ so it’s ok I guess. Maybe lol. Ugh I’m sorry but I don’t understand how some authors can be so quick and productive while I need so much time lol
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Real life shipping discourse and Taylor Swift
Theres apparently discourse going on on tumblr rn about real person shipping. I figured I'd add my 2 cents since.....well this is absolutely not a shipping blog, but I do blog about a real person, and a lot of swifties have brought up kaylors in this debate.
(Disclaimer: I do believe in kaylor, and occasionally reblog some stuff about them, but pretty much only things taylor does/says. K*rlie has made it clear she plans on staying in the closet for now, and I respect that. I also think her """husband""" is an evil crook, so I dont feel like giving her pr while shes doing this. If kaylor broke up, then I am absolutely no longer a k*rlie fan. Anyone who would marry into that family for real, I could never support. But personally, I dont believe she has much of a choice now because of past choices. Anyway that's my current feelings on them. On to gaylor)
I absolutely agree with a lot of what's being said. A lot of fans of different pairings have really gone over the top and genuinely hurt people they say they love. That's absolutely inappropriate. I also find any explicitly sexual (nudity or sexual acts other than kissing) fan art/fanfiction/serious speculation about real people's sex lives to be absolutely gross and appalling. I know there are people who think Taylor is bi/gay and/or believe in kaylor that engage in those activities, and I do not support or engage with them. That is absolutely invasive and inappropriate. Anyone who does that about Taylor and joe is just as invasive and inappropriate. We do not have the right to that part of her life.
However, speculation not only doesnt do any harm, but has been encouraged by taylor. She has never explicitly said shes straight. She has never said that people that think she is bi or gay are wrong. She could immediately shut down theories and rumors and she doesnt. She encourages it. Now you can argue that she does that because she wants people to know shes not straight OR you can argue she is straight and just knows that theres nothing wrong with being gay and it makes her money. I think the second is stupid, but whatever, I'll give you that as a slight possibility. But regardless, she has done nothing but encourage speculation about her sexuality.
There is nothing wrong with being gay. There is nothing wrong with being bisexual. Speculating/theorizing people may be lgbt is NOT wrong. It's actually an entrenched part of our community and culture. And a lot of antis ignore/misunderstand that fact. Some people are genuinely closeted and dont want speculation. Those people shut down rumors and avoid any links to the community. I dont blame them, and I don't bother them. I may be able to clearly tell they're gay, but they dont want anyone to know. Taylor has never explicitly done this. In the past, yes, she has distanced herself more. Shes clearly only now actually in the coming out process. But she left enough hints, and shes explicitly said she leaves hints, to know that she never wanted to be 100% in the closet. If she did, she would've denied this shit many times in the past. And she never has.
I dont care that much about straight people having gay rumors. Theres nothing wrong with being gay, and if it bothers them, they're not good people. OBVIOUSLY, sexual stuff about them (gay or straight) is fucked up. But just saying they might be gay or bi? That's not bad, because it's not bad to be those things.
Stop attacking lgbt people online because some gross perverts write sexual things about celebrities. Sometimes the same people may do both, but not everyone does. and simply engaging in the cultural activity of interpreting gay signaling and having gaydar, doesnt make you a bad person.
What does make you a bad person (or at least an ignorant one) is finding any excuse to deny someone might not be straight, just because they havent said the words point blank. No one should have to do that, because no one should have to come out. If they align themselves with the community, repeatedly mention having girlfriends or reject gendered terms, literally use female pronouns in a romantic sense, and constantly drape themselves in pride flags, it is HOMOPHOBIC to throw them back in the closet, slam the door, lock it, and claim you're trying to keep them safe. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING LGBT. Regardless of whether taylor is really bi, if you think there is zero to slim chance she is, YOURE A BIPHOBE. And if you are a huge fan who follows her closely and you think there isnt a STRONG chance shes bi, YOURE A BIPHOBE. Ignoring soft come outs is at the very least painfully ignorant and accidentally homophobic, and at worst intentionally and viciously homophobic.
And that's that on that.
#taylor swift#gaylor swift#gaylor#kaylor#lgbt#rpf#rps#real person shipping#real person slash#real person fanfiction#real person fic#slash
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not to sound like a stem major but i think it should be required for kids to take more science, science is something that encompasses the entirety of our natural world and how we interact with it, medicine, and to a point technology. science is everything we do, and having kids take one (1) different Kind Of Science every year for 12 years literally does nothing but give you a tip of the iceberg’s worth of information.
science is seen as pretentious and overbearing. you have to get through so many different kinds of sciences that you don’t have time to focus on one, or learn anything of depth in any of them unless you decide to pursue it as a career, which is gross on 2 different planes because 1) people should be allowed to major in whatever they want while simultaneously having a good grasp on the natural world to keep them safe and healthy, and 2) why is knowledge of the world blocked off when it affects every aspect of your life.
the reality is that when science is a field blocked by a 10+ year paywall of higher education, it leaves the average person in the dark about much of the world. if more people were required to learn about science and the higher sciences (environmental, organic chemistry, in-depth biology, astrology, etc.) i feel like much of the scientific field wouldnt be disregarded or seen as high and mighty. i could write a thesis on this but it forces people to be at the mercy of whatever (potentially false) information they can get for free online or their doctors. this leads to a risk and reality of medical abuse and misdiagnosis that nobody can contest because “youre not a doctor, how would you know”.
and the articles arent accessible, theyre additionally locked behind a vocabulary that requires that 10+ years of school to understand, nothing about science is made accessible or fair for the average person. this is obviously not just an issue of people not being required to take a bunch of science courses, this is an issue of academic pretentiousness that’s a whole separate issue. but even baseline information, even the idea of knowing how your body processes nutrients and fights disease, is not known. how many people who havent had a connection to a medical field do you know that could tell you why to not use peroxide. that’s not even an advanced concept, but most people dont know unless a doctor has told them which is LOL.
theres no reason the fda and cdc should be having to do studies on whether or not you should wash meat to get this kind of information out to the average person and then be met with discourse levels of “Gotcha!” due to what people have been taught, theres no reason vaccinations and medicine are under constant conspiracy, the only reason people dont believe in it is because much of the news we receive comes off as Big Brother coming down from the heavens to preach to us. people are allowed to conspire and put everyone in harms way (this is specifically about vaccinations and the “myth of herd immunity”), people are allowed to spread whatever misinformation and there’s no way of disproving it because all the scientific information is locked behind six figures of medical tuition.
food service and other businesses’s practices involving health shouldnt be daunting to the average person. it’s to keep you healthy. why does it require you to take a paywall-locked course to know about steps to keep yourself healthy. why is everything that protects health locked. why is everything about the world, like the food web or soil acidity or pH, blocked from where everyone can know about it. why is science part of STEM, allegedly something thats the ideal for everyone to know, but nobody is ALLOWED to know it. you take a million math courses and are required to know 17 different calculations you’ll never use, but the concept of everyone taking an in-depth course in biology and not just “mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell” is something to be debated.
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Misogyny in the Anime Community
I can’t even really believe that I have to type this shit but I guess life is full of surprises. Follow my trip down a fucking gigantic shithole.
THIS IS A LOT LONGER THAN I EXPECTED AND IM SORRY. BUT PLEASE READ IT. IN MY OPINION IT IS AN IMPORTANT MATTER. DONT IGNORE DAILY HARASSMENT OF WOMEN ONLINE.
Since I’m a very sociable girl and I love Anime and I love love love the Tumblr-Anime-Community (except for some minor things but nothing’s perfect y’know) and so I decided to join some local Facebook-Anime-Groups.
I was happy to gain new information about Anime and I was willing to throw myself into heated discussions about my favorite characters and shows. What I got instead was a shitbunch of misogyny and hatred towards “realistic female characters” that didn’t act like the **waifuuu** these guys wanted so badly.
From the start I haven’t been as active in this groups as I was here on Tumblr. I didn’t interact as much even though I really tried to get into it something just put me off. Firstly, this was a men dominated group - like 85% AT LEAST were guys in their late teens up to early twenties and they all loved some good smashes in Anime and some hot girls with super big tits (there were even polls about which Anime girls more dudes would like to fuck or something). That was something that I could tolerate - I mean who am I to judge right? I, myself love me some hot pics of my favorite Anime boys and girls so no problem right?
Unfortunately not. Most of the comments in these section were about what this men would do to this girl if they could have their way with her and I tell you what: these men are fucking disgusting. Actually using the word “rape” and “Taking advantage of” etc. in this context is in my opinion not okay. Especially when there are minors in this group (their parents probably failed to keep them under check because this group is not for minors).
I still don’t know why I didn’t immediately leave the group (probably because there were like 5 good posts per month or because I wanted a daily reminder of how shitty men can be - of course not all men and women too!)
Today I was refreshing my facebook page when said group popped up with a picture of one of my favorite Anime - NANA by Ai Yazawa. If you’re not familiar with it and don’t want to be spoiled then skip the next paragraph (I’ll try to not really spoil the plot only the relevant things? idk).
NANA is a slice-of-life Anime about two girls named Nana, but one of them is frequently called Hachi and I’ll refer to her as Hachi. It’s a very mature and in my opinion realistic Anime and Manga when it comes to the plot and the actions of the characters. And the two female main characters - god forbid - have sex. Nana - presumably - has Sex with only one guy. Hachi on the other hand has sexual intercourse with a few different men. Which is okay and normal - HA! That’d what actual intelligent people would say, but not the dudes from this group.
This one guy decided to watch NANA and I still don’t know how he even thought it would be a good idea to watch it because it’s about female empowerment and about finding your own path in this world as a girl and about even more but it always comes down to: females.
And what happened to be popping up on my facebook page was this (I added ugly translations but so all of you understand):
At first I had to google what “Sharmuta” even means, but at first look I knew it wouldn’t be something like “brave young woman”. I looked it up and - surprise - it means slut, skank, hoe, hooker, whatever term you prefer. You get it.
Not only is NANA my most treasured Anime/Manga, I’m also a girl who hates being told how to live my life. Especially when I’m told by men who 1. don’t know me 2. think women should hide in the kitchen learning recipes until their unknown husband picks them up to get them pregnant. Ok that was a little over the top but you know what I mean.
Naturally I felt attacked. I felt attacked because this is one of the works I truly admire and because the reason I love it so much is because of the complex and realistic relationships. I love that it’s not this “ugh I’m a virgin waiting for my prince”-trope. I love that there are female characters who embrace their sexuality and needs because that’s what I struggled with for so long. It portrays strong women who make mistakes (like everyone does) but they stand up for themselves and they own their mistakes and learn to live with them in the best way possible. It helped me find peace with my body and mind and showed me that it’s okay to live as you please. You don’t need to be ashamed of anything and the last thing you should be ashamed of is who and how you love and that it’s not shameful to enjoy sex or anything involved with sex. It’s okay for women to still their sexual needs.
So - of course I had to speak up. I think I knew from the beginning that this would be useless but I just felt so infuriated that a men can openly slutshame a character that stands for female empowerment (correct me if I’m wrong, but this was my feeling?).
FROM HERE ON I’LL POST THE TRANSLATION UNDER THE PIC BC OF SIZE REASONS AND I DONT WANT ANYONE TO THINK I MANIPULATED WHAT I OR HE SAID so whatever
Cucumber Guy: ok ...
Star Girl (me): I had to look this word up on google and the definition I found (slut) is - in my opinion - 100% not fitting. I’m sorry, but to call a girl who enjoys her sexuality and tries different things a slut is just wrong imo. What makes NANA such a masterpiece are the realistic dynamics and constellations between the characters and the lack of perfection. Hachi is not a slut and to call her that just shows your strange view of women. Of course, everyone can do as they like - but in this time and age it is so important to support girls in their decisions and to not always degrade them and question their every move. Stop slutshaming (even if it’s only a fictional character) : - )
Mr-Know-It-All: This text only shows me that you can identify with her as a charcter ... maybe you even feel like I was talking to you but sorry - a person like this (with such a foul character) is nothing you can make appear good
Mr-Know-It-All: Nothing but the truth.
Star Girl (me): to be honest I expected something like this as an answer. I think it’s horrifying how much misogyny hides behind your words and is something that’s completely unnecessary in todays society. Reality will get to you soon enough and you’ll realize that women have needs and there is no reason for you to judge that. Because I know that I can’t convince you otherwise I’ll just save my energy for something else : - )
Mr-Know-It-All: I don’t know if I should laugh or cry. Don’t try so hard to defend yourself or that illusion you have. That you even said “how much misogyny hides behind your statement” is ridiculous. If someone has seen the Anime and then reads your comments about it he has to pity you no matter what. Our society is damaged and that you think behavior like this is normal shows truly what you are.
Mr-Know-It-All: For people who read “this discussion” without knowing the Anime. Just watch it (it’s a good show). But just so you understand: SPOILER: This ******** has an affair with a married an (for a long time period) ... and that’s only the beginning XD XD it only gets better.
SO, to break this down again:
- at first he assumes I identify with this character and that would make me a slut too so .. my opinion is not really valid right?
- I try to reason with him one more time even though I already saw him as a lost cause and he then proceeds to tell me (put bluntly) that my point of view is what’s wrong with society.
- he then tries to justify his opinion by slutshaming the character even further
Maybe you don’t see a problem with this. Maybe you think I overreacted, but to be honest: I’m fed up. I’m fed up about being told that I’m only worth something if I’m “pure and innocent” - whatever that means! I’m so fed up with men like him degrading women because of their decisions and actions. Why are men allowed to make mistakes, to learn from their mistakes and to move on - but women have to be haunted by theirs for the rest of their life and through all eternity? And maybe - just maybe - someone doesn’t even see having an affair with a married man as a mistake and if they don’t IT’S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS TO COMPLAIN. Women’s lifes do not belong to men. We are not something you can dictate however you want. We live. We feel. Sometimes we need things even though we know they are bad for us. We do things that we know can get us in trouble. We are human and it’s heartbreaking to see how many men still don’t get the idea that women can live a life on their own. That they don’t need someone to overlook their every move.
I want the Anime Community to be open-minded, to be inclusive to everyone. I want everyone to feel welcome and safe. And even though there are often discourses - let’s handle them the classy way. I want to feel welcomed no matter what my sexuality is or how often I have sex or how much I admire a sex positive character. Sex positivity is so important, especially for young women, so let’s work hard together to make it something that’s okay. Okay to be talked about. Okay to be admired. And also okay to not be practiced since it’s not for everyone but that is also okay.
#nana#nana anime#nana manga#nana komatsu#hachi komatsu#nana ozaki#attack on titan#shingeki no kyojin#tokyo ghoul#tokyo ghoul:re#Yuri on ice#Captive Prince#Fullmetal Alchemist#edward elric#boku no hero academia#katsuki bakugou#Touka Kirishima#midoriya izuku#todoroki shouto#sailor moon#bunny tsukino#usagi tsukino#girl power#misogyny#online harassment#bullying#online bullying#detective conan#all might#kimi no na wa
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