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throughout cry of fear there are several things that seem to hint at simon having been a victim of CSA, either from his bio father or another relative close to him, and how it has impacted both his view of himself and those around him and in this essay i will-
#tw sa#tw csa#cry of fear#simon henriksson#dont even get my STARTED on all the implications of his mother being dead#i will never shut up if you do#the more you dig into the meat of COF the more fucked up it gets#each enemy and suicide note and little detail simply more nails in simon's coffin of just how doomed he was from the start#he was never meant to have a happy ending#he was created to suffer#and it makes me sick thinking about
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I sincerely don't know if Im alone on this one, so I want to know what yall think. Again, I may get some heat for this, but itâs my honest opinion.
Something I noticed in my reread is that I grew a slight dislike for lucie in chot, and as someone who had always previously rooted for her, Iâm currently annoyed at myself.The thing is, Lucie IS a very privileged and sheltered girl.She was born into a wealthy, loving family and, because of her apparent ânormalcyâ, never suffered the brunt of the shadowhunter prejudice like Tessa and James.
None of this is a problem in itself, but my point here is that there were always other people protecting, thinking and worrying for her, so IÂ think not only she never realized how precarious her familyâs position actually was, but also has no true understanding of consequences and how the âreal worldâ works.She knew in some level that what she was doing regarding jesse was dangerous, but was never truly afraid of repercussions, bc unconsciously she knows there will be someone to catch her . And while I do like to see a character become aware of its own privileges along the narrative, thereâs no growing here.She finished the book without ever realizing it, because everything was just SO easy and convenient, and that bothers me greatly.
In all fairness, how could she? she does whatever she wants with no consequences.
I feel so conflicted bc while I actually cheered when she brought jesse back in choi, and always shipped them, I find the outcome of her actions to be low-key infuriating.Lucie wasnât willing to give Jesse up, but also never seriously considered giving up her comfortable life to start over with him somewhere.That ludicrous and set to fail jeremy blackthorn plan wasnât even her idea, it was the people around her finding a way to fix her âmistakesâ to save all of their asses from jail.
Lucie couldâve had her marks stripped, her father couldâve lost the institute, it couldâve costed Tessaâs life.Those guys had been waiting 25 years for the slightest opportunity to pounce on her, does anyone seriously believe they wouldnât all automatically think the warlock mother was involved? How come there was some major necromancy going on under her roof and she had no idea?  we know she didnt, but still  All of this was severely downplayed and there was little to no conflict regarding it, and anyone can correct me if im wrong, but none of that ever dawned on lucie.She never fully thought about how her family would be implicated, and nobody brought that up to her.Zero confict just chill, I guess this is our life now .Dont get me wrong, I dont want that shitstorm to actually happen,I just wanted her to become AWARE of it
 she literally brought home this complete stranger to them all (we know jesse, the characters dont) that was 8 years her senior (it doesnt matter his body was frozen for 7 years, mentally jesse is 24), Tatianaâs son, and had been dead up until last tuesday, but nobody save perhaps jessamine, and god it pains me to agree with jessamine had a problem with that.Instant acceptance, no resistance, no objections at all.All it would take for that lie to crumble would be ONE trial by the sword at any point of their lives and everybody was as chill as chicken joe from surfs up
Her fight with Cordelia pissed me off too. Lucie meddled on something she had no right and no knowledge of,and demanded things of Cordelia without even being willing to hear her out. âoh the poor thing is suffering so much bc of you, why canât you just take him back?â GIRL, FOR ALL SHE KNOWS, UNTIL A WEEK AGO, HOME BOY WAS SWEARING UNDYING LOVE AND BURNING DOWN MANORS FOR GRACE BLACKTHORN.Â
WE know poor james was ensorcelled and fighting it, but what was cordelia supposed to think of it? How dare she assume that Cordelia âtook advantage of James going to Cornwal to run away with matthewâ?Â
The demon of secrets in edom scene was plain ridiculous.âyo I had a childhood crush on your brother, sorry for never telling you, I was embarrassedâ is not a big deal.The fact that they needed demonic intervention for THAT so late in the book baffles me
While I do think most characters were severely nerfed on this book and behaved ooc on several occasions (swear to god I have some mild ptsd from all the times cordelia ran and did unhinged things) , my conclusion about Lucieâs arc is that she took her good life for granted, endangered her entire family, didnt grow from the experience, but still got everything she wanted with no consequences or sacrifices.She lost a cousin along the way, but who cares about that guy? what was his name again? Its my understanding that Lucie never even faced a trial.Thats unrealistic and bad writing, if you ask me.When I think it over, the word that comes to me is...spoiled.
And dont get me started on the fact that she found out Malcom was planning on doing full blown necromancy and didnt do anything about it.How that had no repercussions AT ALL still blows my mind.
 The worst part for me is that I genuinely believe Lucie deserved better you know?Â
If lucie and cordelia hadnt been allowed to become parabatai, and jesse had received some other minor yet life changing punishment, and we had seen a trial scene I wouldâve been satisfied, because at least it wouldnât have been nothing.
#lucie herondale#chain of thorns#chain of thorns spoilers#chain of gold#Chain of Iron#the last hours#tlh#jesse blackthorn#grace blackthorn#cordelia carstairs#james herondale#will herondale#tessa gray#kit lightwood#tessa herondale#Matthew Fairchild#malcom fade#tsc characters#tsc critical#tsc chronicles#tsc
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Momma is a badass?
Fandom: DC Pairing:Â Bruce Wayne x Batmom!reader (in the background) Word count: 1.4k Summary:Â Your Children donât know about a big part of your past, but when the situation calls for it, they find out, one way or anotherm Requested by a hydrated Anon:Â since the request are kinda open. Can i request something where batmom was a former suicide squad member, now dating batman and the batkids dont know? Maybe they are in a dangerous fight against someone and the suicide squad helps them? only if this is okay for you. No pressure or something. Stay hydrated love
Your children knew that you were a great fighter, one that could hold herself against Bruce easily, and they knew that you had been a vigilante long before you had met their father and fallen into the more domestic role of a part-time event-organizer and a full-time momma at day and a crime fighter at night. Sometimes they had tried to ask you and Bruce about what you had done for the most of your early adulthood, but they never found out anything about what happened between your 18th and 25th birthday. A few of them - mostly Tim, Steph and Damian - had thought about finding out the old-fashioned way, but everytime they seriously considered it they remembered that not once since you had taken them in as your children have you breached their privacy without a very, very good reason. So they quickly started to forget about it again and face their own problems. What none of your children had expected was that that blank on your resume was going to be filled on what was supposed to be an easy mission in Gothamâs Docks. You and Bruce were the ones who went, Tim on the Comms, only to find that three of the most dangerous and violent - but in themselves alone relatively small - crime families had âbondedâ together to defeat the one thing that kept them from ârising to their true sizeâ: Your family. The two of you were good, years of beating and defeating big baddies have shown so much, but not even the two of you were good enough to defeat the small army that was attacking you now. Under the hail of bullets that were raining down on you, a few of them hitting your body armour, but luckily not you, you barely managed to dive for cover behind a metal pillar. Looking over you were relieved to find Bruce behind cover too, seemingly not hurt. He nodded at you, most likely having the same thoughts about you, before talking to you and Tim over the Comms. âRed, we need everyone here asap, this is at least a code blue situation.â âCode blue? I thought this was just a quick in-and-out,â Tim asked surprised. âJust do it, no time to explain,â Bruce grunted as he threw a Batarang at a particularly bold individual that tried to break his cover, disarming him quickly and knocking him unconscious. âI contacted everyone, Nightwing and Red Hood are on their way, ETA is at least ten minute. Robin is preparing and will be there in five. Oracle is going to take over the Comms as soon as sheâs online from her homebase and then Iâll hurry over with Black Bat. The others will try to come, but are indispensable at the moment,â Tim informed you and you could hear the almost inhumane quick tapping of his keyboard in the background. Before you had the chance to answer you noticed the small circular object rolling towards you and just almost managed to kick it away and shield yourself with your cape. âWe donât have enough time to wait for all of them!â you shouted over the sound of another explosion and when you looked over at Bruce you almost saw the internal conversation, âTheyâre on a mission not far from here, they could be here in five minutes.â âWho are you talking about?â Tim asked, but you and your husband just ignored him. âDo it!â Bruce said after he had to dive for a new cover when the pillar he was standing behind got damaged by another granate. Not waiting another second you pulled out a small button that was protected by a glass hood. You clicked the glass hood off and pushed the button, a little relief flooding you when you saw the blinking light below it implicate that the signal was received. Now you just had to survive long enough for your help to arrive. Tim and Cassandra, closely followed by Damian, arrived shortly after, but even with the five of you, you werenât remotely able to do more than hold yourself against the seemingly never ending attack that got worse with every minute. When you heard the flapping of a chopper somewhere above you, you could have wept with joy, but soon got pulled back into reality when a bigger explosion rang through your ears and debris from the newly bombed open roof missed you by literal inches. After making sure neither your husband, not your children were hurt badly, you looked up to find that the chopper was not the one you had hoped for when you were looking directly into the barrel of a bomb launcher. The thought of retreating filled your mind, but before you could suggest, you saw the opposing chopper blow up in a haze of fire before a very familiar crazy laugh filled your ears - even if it was still half a mile or so away. More explosions rang through the enemy lines and the shift in power was immediately feelable. You had just won the upper hand. Five ropes were lowered around you and soon after you found yourself surrounded by your former team - or rather one version of it, the suicide squad never really being one to keep stagnate. âDid âya miss us sugar?â Harley crackled as she fell around your neck, hugging you with one arm while the other was occupied with shooting an enemy that had been charging at the six of you. âYou wouldnât believe how much,â you smiled and - after quickly greeting the rest of the team - got back to fighting. Dick and Jason joined the fight shortly before the end - before your win - and were surprised by the people who were fighting in such a harmony with their mother that it looked like they had been fighting with you for years, but with the fight still going on they had little time to care about it too much. The twelve of you together had an easy time fighting against the gangs and it only took a few minutes more before you left unconscious, dead (the suicide squad had no no-killing rule after all) and tied up gang members for the police to lock up. The squad's chopper had been severely damaged during the fight so the five went with you to a second-emergency base on the outskirts of Gotham to wait for Waller to send them a pick-up, leaving you with a bit of time to catch up with your old mates. While you were laughing and talking to Harley, Rick, Floyd, Digger and Tatsu like you were old friends who havenât seen each other in a while, Bruce standing a few feet behind you - keeping up his grim persona, but not stopping you from interacting with the (mostly) villains - your children were at the other side of the room completely dumbfounded at the way their mother was acting.
âRemember that time Waller almost blew up your head because you thought it was a good idea to play pranks in the base?â you asked laughing, the others joining you. âYeah, well, how was I supposed to know sheâd react to a bit of water like that,â Dagger shrugged, but smiled at the memory. âCanât believe itâs been so long already since I left, it feels like yesterday I almost cut your eyes out,â you smiled - you much like Katana not having been there as a criminal, but rather as a guard yourself. âHey, if you want back, weâd gladly take you in, I still think Waller considered planting a bomb in your head just so that you would come back and bring some order back,â Rick shrugged, but you just shook your head. âThank you, but no thank you, I have a life here now. Also I donât think Hubby would like that too much,â you giggled a little and blew a kiss at Bruce, who responded only with a stern nod in an interaction that your children would have usually found hilarious if they werenât so occupied with staring. âYaâknow sugah, Ah love attention, Ah really do, but even Ah get uncomfortable if dah little batlings keep on starinâ like thaâ,â Harley nudged your shoulder and nodded into the direction of your children. âOh, donât mind my little ones, they just didnât know about my time at the suicide squad,â you shrugged, well aware that you were going to have a lot to explain later on.
#Batmom#Batmom!reader#bruce wayne#batman#bruce wayne x reader#batman x reader#x batmom!reader#Tim drake#red robin#robin#damian#damian wayne#jason todd#red hood#dick grayson#nightwing#oracle#barbara gordon#black bat#cassandra cain#Suicide Squad#harley quinn#rick flag#katana#deadshot#boomerang
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HI!!! Just finished reading the Dangerous Gift and boy do I have thoughts!!! Gonna put them below a cut for spoiler reasons
OK SOÂ
general thoughts I had were that It was pretty good! Not my favorite book but it was a necessary piece of the puzzle. from the snippets I had seen before, I definitely didnât like snowfall. I was kinda tired from having a caps lock protag from 13 so I wasnât looking forward to it. I get why Snowfall was that way but I would have preferred to see a more âcoldâ approach to her personality. I LOVED her character arc and how she grew tho.Â
Lynx is perfect. As alwaysÂ
NOW ONTO SOME OF THE IMPLICATIONS OF 14Â
Glacier: I was in the camp that thought Glacier dying was stupid since we didnât know much about her and I shipped her with Blaze. I still do, but seeing Snowfallâs POV made Glacierâs death more emotionally impactful. Still wishing for a Glacier wingletÂ
Jerboa II (III) : Holee shit where do I even start. Like, Darkstalker was fucked up but Jerboa was FUCKED UP. Like, maybe this showed us what Darky could have become if he was allowed to continue but...sweet lord....and the last spell??? The actual Jerboa II like what happened to her?? and Jerboa III is basically a clone now, AND she has a Jerboa scroll. I havenât reread it but does it still exist?? Because thatâs a Problem.
Animus Magic: So its permanently gone. How we feelin bout that? Like, it makes sense that Jerboa II would do something like that but part of me is a bit salty because I had ocs and adopts I was making that are set in the future and this just throws it all out the window. For the sake of my ocs, I will pretend there is some solution to this eventually.Â
Humans+Sky: Ok so I didnât think we were getting main plot humans this soon, but works with me. Honestly I was waiting for the moment Winter learned that scavengers were sentient. Bit worried about the implications of the epilogue, like.. Abyss??? Feeding a dragon to it? F e a r. Still waiting on that Sky and Peril reunion scene, but until then maybe I can finally write that fic I had about it.Â
The Gifts: Ok so I originally thought the âa secret buried far belowâ was the Forbidden Vault dont @ me. I Love Opal and I want MORE DETAILS. Who was the Queen she served? How far before Diamond was she? Appearance? Come on Tui I thrive on details. Also I loved Snowfall with the tiara like Yasss Queen tear down that wall!!! Go Girl!!Â
The sisters: I had no idea that Glacier had other children until this book and It honestly feels like the two were an aftersight. They probably were added later but you think Winter would have thought about them once right? Crystal was ok I guess. Mink is precious and also the ENCHANTED CROWN OH MY GOD. Fucking Diamond worst Mother-In-Law ever. I canât wait to see the baby squad arc now that thereâs five of them (Cliff, Auklet, Peacemaker, Bumblebee, Mink). Wish we knew who their father was, or if heâs still alive, but letâs be honest heâs probably dead and we all think Battlewinner did it. At least give us a name Tui please.Â
There was gonna be another section on how I didnât like Snowfallâs crush(?) on Sky but I realized Snowfall is 7?? I thought she was the same age as Winter (5). And Lynx is 6. Sky is 8 so I guess there isnât a problem but I could have sworn Snowfall was 5. It would have made sense narratively, with not being ready for the throne. IDK I think I may be remembering things wrong.Â
P.S. heres the age conversion rates I use
5= 14/15Â
6= 15/17Â
7= 17Â
8= 18Â
#sunny speaks#the dangerous gift spoilers#the dangerous gift#wings of fire#character analysis#discussion
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uhHH well i finished rusty lake roots... there are still many things i do not understand but wow that sure was. a lotÂ
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oh. ohhhh i was rightÂ
albert did get into voodoo
i mean really if you have enough blood to write a sentence with it i think thats more of a âthere is bloodâ scenario but i guess thatâs just semantics reallyÂ
anyway uhhHHh that happened,
oH god what the fuck ok apparently maryâs dead now too
i dont know what killed her other than like, old age, maybe. shock?? couldâve been a heart attack if she. saw what albert did to his brother and idaÂ
:(Â
the kid with the glasses Was emmaâs son and she Did commit suicide in her grief when he went missingÂ
still dont know where he came from in the first place but nevermindÂ
what the hell kind of egg is that (the second thing. the first thing is a potato)Â
oh
itâs. itâs that kind of egg, isnât it.Â
is that what that looks like???? i was under the impression human âeggsâ are like, microscopic, like you canât visually see individual sperm cells and i couldnât really find a clear answer trying to look this up and got kinda freaked out about it anyway (pregnancy/uterus functions fuck me up sdfgggh) butÂ
APPARENTLY, AFTER MURDERING HER (AND HIS BROTHER) ALBERT HAS DECIDED TO HARVEST IDAâS EGGS FROM HER BODY AND CREATE HIS OWN FETUS SOMEHOW HIMSELFÂ
I DONT THINK THATS HOW THAT WORKS BUT UH. ALBERT???? WE NEED TO TALKÂ
god fucking damn it i liked him so much and wanted to understand him and i still think itâs heavily implied he was abused and/or bullied by his siblings and heâs definitely mentally unwell and definitely had some kind of rivalry going on with samuel, definite âwants what he hasâ situation butÂ
i guess âmurdered his brother and his wife, apparently harvested eggs from her corpse to Make A Child With Her after she rejected himâ is uuhhhh not really redeemable is it :â  ) godÂ
or im not sure if she actually rejected him or if he ever made any advances on her in the first place but. definite âshe belonged to me/should have been Mineâ possessive behavior ramped up to 11Â
i still think he needed Help and maybe wouldnât have turned out like this if he got help and had support from his family but my god what a. series of events that was Â
also this guy keeps showing up everywhere. i dont know what he is but i like him even though he may be some kind of shadow of impending doom or a personification of deathÂ
BIG fan of the implication here that i may in fact have been a ghost the whole time, subtly influencing the events of my own family destruction in an effort to sacrifice them all to resurrect myselfÂ
is that what all this is. did all this happen because william was haunting everybody trying to get the pieces to revive himself. was this man willing to destroy his entire family line for the chance to live againÂ
oh FUCK THE KIDâS STILL ALIVEÂ
HE DIDNâT DIE IN THE WELL HEâS JUST BEEN LIVING DOWN THERE THIS WHOLE TIME. OK
how did nobody hear him calling for help or anything...Â
guess what
i fucking killed the hand againÂ
apparently albert also knows about this??? and never told anyone??? fucking why??????? he doesnât seem to be Using the dude for anything, there doesnât seem to be any reason to keep him down here unless itâs just some fucked up revenge thing on his sisterÂ
also i dont think it was albertâs hand that i stabbed Again bc heâs not bleeding when he shows up butÂ
is he the one who has been keeping him alive?? why. what purpose is served in keeping him alive if heâs not using him for anything. if hes just trying to get back at his sister why not just kill the guy or leave him to starve down here. Albert What The Fuck Are You DoingÂ
hey buddy!!!!! its u!!!!
i was wrong it seems like mr. crow is not a voodoo curse victim but is actually probably the first vanderboom brother. the not william one. i forgot his name :â) and i still definitely think williamâs going to become mr. owl
i found this picture later (it was shown before but i didnt remember) (also has. puzzle stuff on it but anyway) its definitely the same suit thats it isnt itÂ
i dont want to go searching for the pic of the other brother and the one of mr owl bc ill probably just find spoilers if i do that but Hm. hmm.
is this how the revival ritual works. do u become a bird. is that why everyone else at the hotel was animals too
that would mean the brothers have already done the ritual once though and wouldâve needed a bunch of sacrifices to do it before so maybe notÂ
albertâs bizarre science experiment child seems to be living at the house now, which i was gonna say âhow the fuck did he explain this to his family how is she just Here Nowâ but then i realized i think she and albert might be the only ones left nowÂ
ida and samuel are dead, emma is dead, mary and james are dead, leonard isnât dead but i think he might be... out fighting the war at this pointÂ
also that dog is still here and i didnt previously question why the cup was called âcup with liquidâ and not âwaterâ and i really, really wish i didnt know the answer to that mysteryÂ
try to guess how this dog provided liquid. the answer is not bloodÂ
rose helped frank get out of the well, not sure if she knew why he was down there in the first place or that heâs her cousin, and. wellÂ
:(Â
sorry things had to be this way, bud
digs up my entire familyâs remains to make one hell frankenstein skeleton
sureÂ
o fuck i did it i got all the things
i like how some of these are like âgouge out an eyeballâ and then thereâs like âcut off some hairâÂ
some of this family suffered more than others for this ritual, shall we say
theres probably Reasons for each of the parts though like, frankâs hair grew super long from his years in the well, so while the removal of a lock of hair itself wasnât really a Sacrifice/suffering on his end its symbolic of what he went through
williamâs the one being revived so it makes sense to use his heart
eyes could be... Too Late To See The Truth about albert or something, ida was a fortune teller so, Inner Sight or w/e, also a pair of eyes taken from a couple
emma died from her grief so we have her tears
james... died from drinking the elixir? so indirectly his tongue could symbolize that?? i guess???
rose means red, she was born through murder, she got her bio motherâs red hair, we have her bloodÂ
albert could be seen as a mastermind behind a lot of these events, and a lot of this was caused by the mental illness he never got help for, so we have his brain
leonard lost his foot in the war
the only one i cant figure out is maryâs teeth, i have no idea what that one could mean unless she Did die of old age and âteeth falling outâ is meant to symbolize that
theres.... three teeth and she had three children? i have no ideaÂ
anyway DONT LIKE THAT AT ALLÂ
hm. unpleasantÂ
the other brother Confirmed to be mr. crow but its still possible mr. owl is Not in fact william but he could be talking about future william when he Becomes mr. owl, maybeÂ
this is such a mess ok so william was reborn as a baby, the grandchildren looked like they were consumed by the roots but we see rose holding the baby so at least sheâs still alive (and probably the boys too if she is)Â
and this process also created the seed which planted the tree so... williamâs death and subsequent rebirth also created the family tree?? i guess?? so his family was brought to ruin one by one possibly through him influencing events from beyond the grave, all to revive him, which started the family in the first place, and thereâs definitely a lot of... âall time is one/timelines can be alteredâ not direct Time Travel but just sort of. time as a nonlinear web that the original vanderboom brothers seem able to transcendÂ
hm! hm. theres still. so much i dont understand but i have at least one more game left im not sure if the other things in the bundle are related to rusty lake or just other things by the same developersÂ
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its about time i actually started designing the antagonists instead of just daydreaming about where the protags occasionally meet them
i dont generally put warnings here but. some talk of suicide below def. worth the heads up............ the read more is just because its Fucking Long tho lmao
this one has actually been slightly fleshed out in my mind? they dont have a name yet, and its hard to know what Rank they are since ive been moving the story away from violence and A Coming War for a few reasons, most recent one being my friends story (tho they dont know about mine) has gone down the route of having a war at the end.. mostly tho i want to explore telling a good and worthwhile story without a focus on just who can beat up the other team better. The main protag Barren, for example, im bringing down the route of using their visions and ability to see inside peoples minds (in cryptic, symbolic landscapes and stuff) to take down people from the inside out, generally by working through their reasoning and traumas and whatnot to enable them to see clearer and with more empowerment........ and then one protag (Kindle) who joins later knows how to fight, and the third protag (Stardust) keeps them out of trouble, but later reveals that, well, spoilers that have already been seen a million times, hes actually one of the gods who fought in the huge war that happened in the past, and when thats revealed its when he has to fight again but......... he avoids it due to carrying the trauma and issues surrounding that war, as well as his own virulent self doubt and self hatred. so. this character to get back to the point? Wouldve been like a general or something, but im not sure how far I want to take them away from that, maybe to being a high priestex or something? the gods are supremely important to the story, and, spoilers, the main goal of the main antagonist is to bring back the original creator deity of the world, Siirka
I actually have a lot of appreciation for this particular antagonist character, they werent involved with Barrenâs mistreatment when Barren was raised in their city by their masters so..... Theyre very much blinded to whats going on, I guess when youre raised in a city which glorifies what the leaders are doing and you get the chance to work for them, and you havent seen the depths of their evil youre going to work extra hard and...... push little red flags out of your mind............ They were extremely loyal and fully or. Mostly. on board with everything happening that they were told about, and worked super fuckin hard to get to the rank theyre at, always pushing boundaries and training and improving and grasping for any sort of genuine praise and signs theyre doing good that they can get, wanting to do their absolute best for the cause and. be worth something to someone. it gets very obsessive, especially as doubts and red flags start actually encroaching on their goals
As Barren and co start causing more trouble, this characterâs storyline actually develops separate to the protags. Definitely influenced by them and their continuous defying of the antagonists, which doesnt plant seeds in their mind but waters the ones that are there....... They start realising things arent as peachy and golden as everyone was teaching them it was, they realise their betters either dont really know what theyre doing or may have selfish intentions, or, god forbid, intentions that could land everyone in a fucktonne of trouble - basically all the views they were raised on start having major cracks and Plot Holes in them and they have to come to terms with that. They do a lot of inner work struggling both with their crumbling view of reality and with the fight between either breaking it down more or trying to patch it up with lies, the sort of lies that even the person telling them doesnt know are lies. They get more and more frantic, more detached from reality as much as they try to hold on, struggling with their own identity and with dissociation, and with their mental state unravelling under stress and the inversion of what they were taught as right being morally dangerous, and what they were told to hate being morally good, until finally their boss is killed to further the protagâs goals......... before the protagonists can get to him............ by them. and then they end their own life to prevent themselves being tortured and imprisoned by their masters. I had a scene in mind where the protagâs spend a little arc trying to get to him because they need to take him out, and this character knows theyre coming, so the protags finally get to him at night and find him dead with this character standing over him. They get a brief chat before telling the protags to run, that theyll take the blame for it and the protags will get away without being harmed if they go quick enough, and then they step out of the window BUT its very fuckin important that its made clear that theyre left with no choice - or, more importantly, that theyve finally made their own moral choice in life with their own mind and own feelings - that theyre in their right mind/not acting on despair and need to go before theyre captured - both for theirself but also so they cant be interrogated and have no chance to spill that the protags were there. They basically redeem all the bloodshed and indoctrination theyve had a hand in - and oh, i forgot this bit of important context. Because of the whole staying away from violence thing, they do it to redeem themselves, to stop at least their boss spreading anymore shit, partially also to get revenge for all the lies and stuff, but also importantly because they dont want that on the protagâs conscious. They can handle it, and since they intend to die, they will bring it to their own grave. Death happens rarely in the story, because I want it to be as heavy and serious and soul-destroying as it is irl. They do the traumatising act of having to kill someone and live with the blame because theyve already planned out that theyâre going to die to avoid capture.Â
Im really.......... wary of portraying suicide in Siirkaia but given Stardust is heavily implied to be back from the dead (having the god of death, Mercyâs, black hair which only he has, though for most of the story its ambiguous as to whether hes working for or is Mercy ((its neither they were lovers lmao))) and Barren and Kindleâs mother Inferno also killed herself its............... im just gonna have to cave and realise im gonna need to address it. I mean, the protags already show (as being the grandchildren/children of and a suicide victim) that its a fuckin tragedy not a solution to anything, but, look. the story is intricately tied to my own mental health and thats shit ive dealt with for years so its going in the melting pot baybey! Also. as if i will EVER write this....... but i still want however i portray it to make clear that..... its a fuckin tragedy and honestly Not The Right Choice IMO
Basically, as a character theyre very hardworking, very Very ambitious, slightly obsessive, and i guess Unhinged because oh boy i am just giving out free personal issues to these characters huh. Their story is ideally going to be a bit more fleshed out than the other antags, because theyre meant to be a bit of the protags in that side of the story. Theyre like.... a case study in the complex and not black/white concept of redemption. The Demos, the people of the story, are at their core defined by submission and being led to terrible things. They were all originally created by the terrible god of life and chaos Siirka to be entertainment. Siirka had passed by Earth and took a liking to the pain and suffering of humanity, specifically loving the way they scream, and so built a fake Earth out of his own substance/power (in universe his body and hair) that was an unoriginal almost exact copy of Earth with.... absent details, like all the animal species being just identical copies of one example of each species, in all white, and a submissive race that looked like humans so that he could rule over them..... The Demos have since been taken from Siirkaâs reign, since Siirka was banished in a war by Mercy and the trio of Stardust/Moonshine/Midnight (Siirkaia until i change it roughly translating to âSiirkaâs absenceâ/âno Siirkaâ/etc), but its still central to the story of the world that the Demos are susceptible to being taken advantage of - though strangely they arent Super different to humans - and to being oppressed, since thats what they were made to be............. Like, Cool Backstory Bro, but its central to everything, it represents whats happening now both metaphorically and literally, the race thats susceptible to being betrayed and used is now starting to be betrayed and used again. Cycles of abuse continuing, learning the worth of the spirit, thats all the story of Siirkaia. The protags of the story represent the spreading empowerment, thats what Mercy gave to the Demos, the power to choose, to exist, to create your own path........ And this character represents that right to choose. Theyre a flower beginning to bloom in a garden full of frost. Theyre hope, and hope taking root and being received and acted on, showing that even if your actions just help one person they were worthwhile. Of course other Demos receive that enlightenment, but this character represents the hope in the Demos, but also the âgoodâ in the âevilâ, that, while most of the antagonistsâ actions are unforgivable at worst and in no way exempt from criticism at best, theres a reason people are driven to do evil things, and theres a lot of corruption of the mind and personality that happens to drive people to those points. People can act in horrible ways, but its always for a reason, whether its their own trauma or not.... Even âI wanted toâ has heavy implications of reasons behind it. This character is one of the few that did the work to begin to escape the cycles they were born into and its important they have their part in the story be heard
as much as i want them to be understood by everyone, as a schizotypal person i see that most people............ do not even try to Start understand people they find slightly odd, so making them âunderstandably madâ as in showing them show some of the Odd traits of being detached from reality/humanity with the reasons those things come about, and, you know, with the appreciation that its not just âooo crazy random, unpredictable, youll never know what theyll do next!!â its....... actions that just seem different to those who dont do those actions..... Either way, however i push their character in regards to being misunderstood, i really want their end to be understood, or rather. I want them to be understood in the end. Barren can be incredibly empathetic and understanding, id really love for their final moments to be..... mutual? They did what had to be done for things to change and get better, and in the moments where they meet Barren/Kindle/SD, they finally get seen for what they are, they finally get seen as an entity beyond all the lies pushed onto them, a person who was led astray, who had the goodness in their heart and found the strength to multiply it, to try and right their wrongs, who was, although it looks on the outside like they had it all, actually been manipulated and mistreated by their higher ups and used as a pawn so they didnt have to get their hands dirty, they could just pass on the work to someone else. I really want them to, while they cant really be redeemed because of the damage thats been done, have a few moments of actual peace at the end of their story
.............................or maybe they could run away with the main trio lmao but no, that cant........ really happen because of the important dynamics and the personal (as in interpersonal not about me) nature of the protags and also. while i want the Demos to be revived again at the end, they do get swept away into Siirkaâs hair when hes brought back through the big boss of the antags, Ka-UrenKa-, oo spoilers. so. i dont really know if i want to kill a protagonist it seems cheap (the main trio survive because they werent made by siirka........... literally a long fuckin story) because. at current, Siirka being brought back happens out of nowhere, and while the audience technically know its coming should they piece together the symbolism of Barrenâs visions, its supposed to be unexpected and. idk man.Â
anything else? Oh yeah i think they were originally conceptually conceived to Brutus by the Buttress so you fucking KNOW that i couldve skipped ALL this writing just to put that song in but hey. i would say its their theme song but while inspo was taken from theme and lyrics its actually not accurate to their life beyond a few lines?? and also the overall fucking Mood
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so. achâm. he is an amphibious alien character thats been with me for a long time and i havent had the feeling for him in YEARS. but i have to talk about him because hes still got a special place in my heart despite my uh... abandonment of him.Â
this is really long so itâs under a cut
first things first: his name, AchâM Raten, is pronounced, Ahk-mm Rah-ten. it has a meaning to it because apparently those are names derived from words in his peopleâs language, which youâll find out about more later.Â
he was someone i made when i was RIGHT in the middle of my Alien phase, and was also just starting my OCT xDDD phase on deviantArt. (i was. not good at octs bc i had no concept of cohesive storytelling in a limited timeline comic format and also had really bad add that made it impossible to ever finish anything.) the OCT he was apart of was Tapestry of Horror, which, honestly i think my audition comic for that was the only good one i made for that entire tourney. this was his reference for it:Â
ahh, look at that. the nostalgia is all coming back to me. the amount of â:Uâ which was a go-to face for 13 year old me. this was posted back in 2010! wow!
the reason the 63 on his age is crossed out is because THIS IS NOT ACTUALLY THE ORIGINAL REFERENCE I HAD FOR HIM! i had to redraw him because his original reference (which unfortunately has been lost to the annals of time) was too human looking? and tapestry of horror was an anthro/alien/no-human-faces tourney, so they told me i should probably change his face up some and then heâd be fine, and ORIGINALLY, ACHâM WAS AN OLD MAN. I DONâT KNOW WHY I ALSO CUT HIS AGE IN HALF BUT ITâs PROBABLY BECAUSE I WAS THE INDECISIVE BASTARD THEN THAT I STILL AM TODAY.
supposedly he used to slink around in shadows and laugh and speak in rhymes, and im pretty sure that was a side effect of edgy 13 year old interests? like, i think i tried giving him kind of a creepy serial killer vibe? and then just never executed it? he had an epithet of, The Laughing Cyborg, which is still relevant in later versions of him.Â
oh and here, have some TOP SECRET ACHâM LORE COURTESY OF THE IMAGE DESCRIPTION OF HIS REFERENCE:
i donât believe i was lying. i think i did originally make an amphibious alien woman character that just later evolved into achâm. iâm sure if i had any of my sketchbooks from that age physically with me i would ABSOLUTELY be able to find it and show you guys but i dont so, rip.Â
because i was trying to be coy and ~*~mysterious~*~ i never originally explained his backstory on his reference. it was planned to be something revealed overtime through ~*~dramatic~*~ flashbacks and dream sequences that i did not have the ability to execute. its always followed the same beats, though: achâm and his younger brother were child refugees from a civil war on his home planet. in their initial escape, achâm is caught under a crumbling wall and loses his leg, and theyâre later found and adopted by a retired opera singer of another species. through vague never-established family issues, achâm leaves his adoptive mother and joins a travelling circus.Â
this is his adoptive mother:Â
her name is (and iâm sorry) Nippeteranulzenkodelonio. You can just call her Nippy, though. Please just call her Nippy.Â
god, her species used to be called draconae? what the heck. in future designs, those religious symbols are obsolete and replaced with other symbols relating to a galaxy-wide secret society that has NOTHING to do with achâm and i never figured out how nippy was involved in it, so weâre not delving into that.Â
they both come from a planet called Naruviie, which in his language just means, âLand of the People,â ânaruâ being the part that means people. i never like, fully fleshed out their planet aside from very vague allusions to it being mostly swampland populated by cute little amphibious animals like this fun guy:Â
pictured: a gold Yarlian, which is basically the Naruviian equivalent of a dog.Â
SO BACK TO ACHâM AND THE TAPESTRY OF HORROR: i only won the first round because my opponent had to drop out, and i lost the second round. it didnât really matter though, because achâm remained an incredibly popular character to followers of the tourney, and No, It Was Not Because Of Me. it was because one of the other competitors who i was friends with included him in her rounds, mostly for jokes, and i thought it was the best thing ever. the problem with that though, was that even though in every entry for the tourney she would say IN THE DESCRIPTION that he was NOT her character, everyone thought he was. because she was just a more well-known artist in that community, and i was just. some 13 year old.Â
but anyway, she was a more competent storyteller than i was so she actually like... gave him more character than i was capable of at the time, and she would ask me if i characterized him wrong and i would always be like, âNO ITS GREAT HES PRETTY MUCH WHAT I WANTED HIM TO BE BUT JUST COULD NOT WRITE FOR WHATEVER REASON!â not that i ever expressed it like that because... from what i remember about my 13 year old self... i was very Virgo in all of my statements. yikes.Â
im not close with that artist anymore, and our interests have diverged a lot since then, but i always think back to that time with fondness. for my tween mind, having an artist that i looked up to see my character and actually like them enough to do that absolutely had a profound effect on me at the time.Â
ALRIGHT NOW FOR THE NEXT VERSION OF ACHâM, 2015:Â
see i told you his name had a meaning. and look, i even gave his language a name! wow! such developments!
his backstory didnât really change, except this time instead of a wall falling on him and crushing his leg, he was just born with a bad leg that had to get amputated. apparently. i also changed up his personality more. instead of him being this one dimensional jokey boy that talked in a bad accent, he became more of this like... roguish bardish type of character? heâs more flirty, more prone to being pride and false bravado, tells ridiculous stories of his life to appear more dashing, and, get this: i literally put in his updated backstory that he used to work more Colorful Jobs (ie: he was a prostitute at some point)Â
his brother also has more of a presence and an actual character? i think i planned on him being dead in his 2010 iteration. Orith in this version is a grouchy mechanic/space engineer with a prosthetic eye. oh yeah thatâs right him and achâm were like. attacked by giant birds at some point in their childhoods? i think i had it that the giant birds were a natural predator of his fucking species????????? and thats why achâm is missing an arm and an ear
moving on.Â
LOOK WOW I GAVE ACHâM MULTIPLE OUTFITS!! WOW!!!
big himbo energies. i knew what was up.Â
and that leads us to the latest achâm that iâve drawn which is these sketchy things from 2016
his cybernetic arm looks completely different now, he doesnât have the robot ear anymore and his brother (wow an actual picture of his brother!) doesnât even have a robot eye, and nippy now looks actually old and is like. completely blind now. i didnât even realize my art style changed THAT much in the span of like, one and a half years until like.. JUST now. wow.Â
he definitely looks like more of a scumbag now, and i donât think i ever made anymore drastic changes to his backstory. iâm probably going to take another crack at it though because uhhhhh i dont like a lot of the implications i made in his backstory lmfao.
anyway yeah thatâs the story of achâm!Â
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Epilogues: Candy, Ch 22-26 [Epilogue 5]
/So a lot of heavy shit has happened, though worse is yet to come (Iâve been warned of an onscreen sexual assault in chapter 32).
Everyoneâs been having babies and funerals! Itâs a busy time.
(note: csa mention in chapter 23, though it does not occur in the narrative)
Chapter 22
This is another John-Terezi text convo chapter. Thereâs been a three-year timeskip. And... itâs raining ghosts now.
So I guess thatâs what became of the whole ghosts in the Furthest Ring thing?
We also learn that, on top of the breeding restrictions, trolls are banned from rising beyond certain levels in government. Jane is, we learn, pretty much running the government behind the scenes, because what makes fascist movements tick is one evil person, obviously.
Karkatâs the one with a backbone at least...
JOHN: and karkat...
JOHN: heâs gone completely off the grid!
JOHN: at first we all assumed that the reason he ran away was because he got fed up with his shitty poly relationship.
JOHN: which was probably part of it, honestly. but now i keep seeing his face on all the resistance posters!
JOHN: i think they may have actually put him in charge?
TEREZI: H3H
TEREZI: 1 4LW4YS KN3W H3 H4D 1T 1N H1M
This situation is only exacerbated by the ghosts. So that means characters who were very definitely dead in the main storyline can show up.
Gamzee has been apparently spreading this religion of âredemption arcsâ by âmaking out with peopleâ, and doing some kind of milk-based âbaptismâ. John, meanwhile, asks about the ethics of kidnapping baby Tavros from his horrific parents...
We get to bare witness to Gamzee âredeemingâ the ghosts of Feferi and Eridan. Which involves Eridan going on about Feferiâs feet and Gamzee mashing their faces together to make them âkiss and make upâ.
Jane, it seems, is going full Condesce in more ways than one:
Just then, a dark shadow passes over the park. The crowd falls silent as they raise their heads to watch a drone ship pass by overhead. Its design is insect-like, splitting into many jagged branches, each decked out with weapons and cameras. Itâs completely silent, and encased in armor with a bright red finish, smooth and seamless. Itâs often cited by Jane as the crown jewel of Crockercorpâs various military contracts with the government.
...including literally building her spaceships, and sending them out over the Troll kingdom.
So weâre basically going to have the Holocaust allegory in here I guess? Fucking hell.
chapter 23
We get more words towards Roxyâs steady character dissolution...
Itâs not like Roxy had ever been argumentative, exactly. He just seems to remember someone from his youth who was somewhat more contrarian in spirit than this person heâs married to now.
Back when they were dating, John thought she was acting a little off. Not quite in a bad way, but perhaps a little too âin love,â too fast. At least she still seemed like herself most of the time. But since the wedding, every year that goes by, she seems to become just a little more conciliatory. Not just toward him but toward life in general. She indulges Harry Anderson liberally and almost thoughtlessly. She doesnât care that her best friend is slowly turning into an executive overseeing the corporate arm up the puppet ass of a ruthless dictatorship. She still thinks Gamzee is being sincere about all this âredemptionâ bullshit, even though heâs been casting an increasingly dark and hungry shadow behind Jane: a malicious royal vizier to her burgeoning imperial persona.
So Johnâs going to do something, and hopes that it will make things feel ârealâ again... which is to say obviously what he talked about with Terezi, kidnapping/rescuing Tavros Crocker. Well-intentioned, but... I do not anticipate this going well.
We learn a little such as... Janeâs planning to outlaw human and troll marriage, which would retroactively hit Rose and Kanaya. Which I guess is the final straw for them. (Frankly it should be well past the final straw for all of them. They should all be with Karkat by this point!)
Also Jane and Jake are in âauspistice counsellingâ. We witness a loud row, in front of Tavros...
TAVROS: Itâs fine,,, my parents are kismeses after all,,,
like, fuck.......
Itâs a birthday party for Harry Anderson (John and Roxyâs kid), and Janeâs gift is, well, a fucking imperial drone!
sometimes I picture Vâs gleeful face as we see the next thing sheâs got for us... and now you lick the clownâs armpit... janeâs making the Holocaust but for fictional space aliens...
John awkwardly finds an excuse to be alone with Tavros, to convince him to run away. The kid dialogue is convincingly naive.
The possibility of child sexual abuse (by Gamzee) is raised, but itâs made clear this isnât the case: what ever else Gamzee is in this version, he doesnât rape children. However, that the situation is overall abusive in just about every other way is more than clear. Tavros, on his part, seems to be very keen to leave once heâs convinced John can escape Janeâs security.
I have a feeling the imperial drone may become relevant again shortly.
Jade, however, witnesses what Johnâs trying to do. She insists it will just make everything worse... (also Jake has an âexecution dance off showâ because yeah...)
Whatever weird character corrosion has hit them is finally raised...
JOHN: if there was another way we would have found it by now!!!
JOHN: but there isnât one, because everyoneâs been all... brainwashed by marriage, or whatever the hell happened over the last few years that made things be this way!
JOHN: itâs like everyone just talks past each other all the time!
JADE: john...
JOHN: iâm the only one who ever seems to realize that something...
JOHN: that somethingâs WRONG!
Tavros sadly canât get a word in edgewise as they start having a go at each other - John calling out everything thatâs wrong, the way Jade forced a relationship on Dave and Karkat, and... and the noise is loud enough that Jane arrives on the scene.
John finally has a go at her with all the latent awfulness thatâs been building up to this point. The fascism, the way sheâs treated Jake, the Gamzee thing... the narration has put us very much on his side, centred his perspective, but his friends wonât hear it. And his windy powers destroy the room. So thatâs something.
John runs away.
Comment: the mostly strict John viewpoint makes me wonder if thereâs any degree of unreliable narration. All the same, most of the stuff is pretty undeniable.
chapter 24
This one begins with an interesting exchange:
JADE [alt-Calliope]: the timelines are interacting again.
ARADIA: ooh do you hear anything interesting
SOLLUX: donât be s0 n0sy aradia.
To me the implication is that a lot of the âarrivalsâ in this timeline - alt-Calliope in Jadeâs body, the ghosts - are as a result of things that might be happening in the Meat story.
Through alt-Calliopeâs eyes, we see Terezi and Johnâs conversation. Terezi is lost, in more ways than one, in the dreaming void searching for Vriska. Sheâs also experiencing derealisation... John, apparently in a mood for dropping harsh challenges, tells her point blank that Vriska is either dead, or, not worth her time for leaving her in doubt for so long.
alt-Calliope explains that what is at stake is not the destruction of this universe - but those of them here are âthe lucky onesâ, who live âbeyond the reach of the princeâ. She doesnât bother to explain what is at stake.
Meanwhile, John and Terezi talk depression. Thereâs some really vital Terezi dialogue here...
JOHN: please. please come home.
TEREZI: TH3N WH4T
JOHN: umm, i dunno.
JOHN: we hang out and stuff?
TEREZI: JOHN YOU ST1LL DONT G3T 1T
TEREZI: 34RTH C 1S *NOT* MY HOM3
JOHN: do you really miss alternia that bad?
TEREZI: 1 D1D FOR 4 LONG T1M3
TEREZI: MOR3 TH4N K4RK4T 4ND K4N4Y4 D1D 4T L34ST
TEREZI: BUT 1 H4V3 NO 1D34 4NYMOR3
TEREZI: 4LT3RN14, VR1SK4, SGRUB
TEREZI: 1M SO CONFUS3D 4BOUT WH4T 1 W4NT
TEREZI: UGH, 1 THOUGHT TH4T NOT K1LL1NG H3R WOULD M4K3 M3 F33L B3TT3R
TEREZI: BUT 1NST34D 1TS L1K3 1 R3TCONN3D 4 HUG3 CHUNK OUT OF MY SOUL
TEREZI: 1 3R4S3D 4N 4CT1ON OF R3GR3T 4ND GR13F... Â
TEREZI: 4ND JUST TURN3D 1T 1NTO SOM3TH1NG 1 C4NT STOP CH4S1NG 4FT3R
TEREZI: M4YB3 WH4T 1 D1D W4S N3CESS4RY TO S4V3 3V3RYON3 3LS3
TEREZI: BUT 1T SUR3 D1DNT S4VE M3
oh terezi....
terezi is giving up. she tells john she texted, echoing his words, to âgive him the courtesy of closureâ. and that sheâs going to let herself die, alone in the Furthest Ring.
this is the âsweet fluffyâ branch huh
chapter 25
finally an update on whatâs going on with Karkat!
heâs been somehow appointed âCommanderâ of the rebellion, with good old Swifer Eggmop as one of his comrades! Iâm so glad Swifer is having a role. Karkat is not all that pleased about the successes of his rebellion:
KARKAT: SO FAR ALL THIS âTROLL REBELLIONâ HAS AMOUNTED TO IS A WHOLE LOT OF DICK ALL, WITH AN ADDITIONAL SIDE SERVING OF JACK SQUAT, FOLLOWED UP BY A FINAL COURSE OF GETTING TO WATCH OUR TOP ANALYST, CLIPER BORDEN, BEING FORCED TO DANCE TO AVOID LIFE IMPRISONMENT IN A LABOR CAMP ON LIVE TELEVISION AND MAKING A COMPLETE ASS OF HIMSELF.
Itâs all a weird mix of surreal and grimdark, much like the Alpha kidsâ backstory in Homestuck proper. Thereâs hard labour camps... making cake; a âpastry-based shadow dictatorshipâ.
Rose and Kanaya are at least involved somewhat in the troll rebellion, and transport of the Mother Grub has been arranged.
Anyway, Karkatâs typically grumpy internal monologue is interrupted by the sudden arrival of Meenah from another dimension. A living Meenah - equipped with a Ring of Life. John asks if she got it from Calliope, but Meenah insists she did not. (Possibly she got it from Andrew Hussie himself? Iâd have to watch Cascade again probably...)
Meenah, it seems, is fresh from battling Lord English - apparently without success. But her massive army of ghosts arrives with her... and sheâs willing for Karkat to take charge and order her around, as long as he does it with a suitably commanderly demeanour. Does this mean the rebellion now stands more of a chance? Meenah is ruthless (she was the Condesce in another life), though capricious... Karkat is honest and direct and angry about the right things, but rather prone to getting lost in it.
Also he still wonât text Dave, and wonât let Rose talk to him about it.
chapter 26
Back to John, whoâs thinking about messaging Terezi again - presumably in the hope that she is not, in fact, dead?
Heâs getting a good old mope on about the seeming fakeness, non-âcanonicityâ of life on Earth C. But after some âmelodramatic contemplatingâ in this vein, heâs interrupted by his dadâs car.
Iâm going to be very curious if the Meat route explains how all this stuff got into the Earth C universe.
Unfortunately, what John finds in the car is... not his dad, but a bit of Tereziâs blood. From which he concludes... heâs never going to see her again, there was never even a possibility of it.
Feeling derealisation more than ever, John just screams a lot.
Damn lol, this story is making me care about John Egbert of all people!
epilogue 5
This is the episode where the whole idyll comes crashing down. Things arenât ok, things werenât going to be ok, trying to pretend things were ok just made everyone miserable.
I am sufficiently depressed that that rather appeals as a narrative - much more than a âhappily ever afterâ ending. But itâs not over yet.
Hopefully thereâs yet hope for the characters I like to find some manner of escape from this latest hell, develop out of the worst selves theyâve built... Roxy, at least, I hope can change, stop being this non-person...
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March 28th, 2019 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on March 28th, 2019, from 5PM - 7PM PDT. Â The chat focused on Daemon by Akreampuff.
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RebelVampire
COMIC TEA PARTY- THURSDAY BOOK CLUB START!
Good evening, everyone~! This weekâs Thursday Book Club is officially beginning! Today we are discussing Daemon by Akreampuff~! (http://daemon.smackjeeves.com/)
Remember that Thursday discussions are completely freeform! However, every 30 minutes I will drop in OPTIONAL discussion questions in case youâd like a bit of a prompt. If you miss out on one of these prompts, you can find them pinned for the chatâs duration. Additionally, remember that while constructive criticism is allowed, our focus is fun and respectfully appreciating the comic. All that said, letâs begin!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
my favorite scene is probably the one where billie transforms. this is largely due to it overcoming my expectations, cause a lot of transformation sequences are graceful or maybe even silly. even when demons are involved whether the demons be bad or good. this one though? this one looks terrifying to go through and i love. its such a cool illustrated scene too between the transitional effects and other sorts of kind of magical effects going around. http://daemon.smackjeeves.com/comics/2477610/page-25/
another scene i really enjoyed was the boat scene, specifically when the banter picks up. i appreciate that billie is not willing to trust zeke, but i also like how chill zeke is. i think it really shows off zeke's character in particular since it seems pretty clear hes empathizing with the situation.
mathtans
Made it. I was gonna ask if you meant the transformation forwards or back, so I'm glad you put in the reference. Neither seem all that fun.
I rather liked when the door blew out due to the fire, sending Billie out into the tree. And I mean "like" as in it got to me, not "oh, that looks fun".
The boat and banter was kinda cool. I mostly liked it for the way it could slip in exposition elements in an entertaining way.
RebelVampire
billie getting blown out of the house was a pretty said moment. although i did like this one page where its just debris and her hand http://daemon.smackjeeves.com/comics/2477607/page-22/ maybe im just a sucker for glass debris, but i really loved how it kind of slowed the moment so you could take in what just happened and then the next page really shows that hit and land(edited)
that is also true about the boat scene. the banter was a good balance to keep the exposition entertaining
mathtans
Right, that's the page just after the one I was thinking of. But that was good too, I kind of pictured her as reaching for her mum but being blown back through the window.
I feel so bad for the mum. I think she was in it just enough to create some empathy. Part of me wonders if Dad came back and accidentally started the fire.
RebelVampire
now that would just be tragic. dad sneezes and whoops, suddenly fire
although
tbf
we never see a dead body
maybe the mom is alive
and she started the fire!
mathtans
It's true. I wonder if maybe mum is alive but could even be kidnapped or something... um, or that? She smoke, maybe? ^.^
Fire could also have been started by that other watcher, the one working with Zeke but that Zeke said he couldn't find. Maybe he went rogue.
RebelVampire
that could be. i mean right now just being disappeared kind of makes them the prime suspect
but yeah if theres one thing stories have taught
its never believe someone is dead until you see both their dead body and ghost
so i consider it highly possible the mom wasnt in the fire
doesnt even have to have been kidnapped. maybe she was at the late night store getting milk
mathtans
I wonder if ghosts exist. We only know vampires don't (which was kind of funny as stated).
Everyone probably thinks Billie died in the fire either way.
RebelVampire
yeah im really curious how she expects to just go back. cause shes been gone long enough that someone probably noticed the fire and investigated and made assumptions. or for one of the supposed victims to turn up out of the blue is the height of suspicion
it screams murder or for the insurance money
mathtans
People already didn't seem to like her, so this won't help either. Poor kid.
RebelVampire
yeah tbf i also dont get why she wants to go back
she didnt have any friends
and i didnt get the feeling she had some sort of extended family either
which i mean maybe she hasnt considered it cause shes in shock and being grumpy
QUESTION 2. Overall, itâs very obvious Billie has a lot on her plate regarding her newfound demonic lineage. Emotionally, how do you think Billie will come to deal with her situation, both in regards to her heritage and her mother being dead? How long do you think itâll take her to adjust (if ever)? Do you feel Billie will endeavor to learn to control her newfound powers after Zeke shows her some more? Or, do you feel Billie will return âhomeâ and try to pretend everything is normal at first? Assuming Billie learns at some point, what sorts of things do you think sheâll learn power wise? Speaking of home, what do you think Billie is going to do in regards to that? Overall, how do you see Billie just dealing with the new situation in general?
mathtans
Could just be a fear of the unknown. And she had that one blonde friend. Kinda.
I feel like one of the things Billie will ask eventually is where's Dad hanging out. I'm not sure if that will help her adjust but I think it'll help her sort some things out.
RebelVampire
yeah im surprised insofar shes not the least bit curious about her dad. especially cause her dad must be well known since those medical daemons knew of him.
enough to even say like father like daughter basically
i feel like for a while, billie might emotionally not deal with. like especially if she stays in the caves, its a lot easier to put the events out of mind. or more i mean she might deal with the demon elements and come to accept that, but i think theres other things shell avoid and not hit her till later
like the fact she has no house
mathtans
I mean, she thought her dad was just some guy, there's still the need to adjust to that.
Also might not immediately want to meet the guy who's supposedly part of this hybrid breeding program.
Yeah. I wonder if the caves are fireproof. Feels like she might have fire issues later.
RebelVampire
actually if her powers wind up being fire related, that has huge implications she started it. and i would hate to be her in the moment she realizes she caused it.
mathtans
Oooh. Like, unconsciously? That would suck. Unless someone watching her decided to start it to make her think she started it.
RebelVampire
that would be devious
but not impossible
especially if powers are somewhat inherited and her dad is the big fire guy or something
maybe what will inspire billie to meet her dad is anger. like in the sense she needs someone to lash out, and hes the secret demon father who made her and gave her demon blood and sort of got her into the situation.
mathtans
Maybe the police will investigate and she can get a report to figure out how it all started. She might not be related to fire though, maybe she has powers of just making people uncomfortable, like she did to her classmates.
Maybe. Or maybe she meets him as a trainer and doesn't realize who he is until later.
RebelVampire
actually thatd be a really interesting way to have him introduced
have him just there upfront the whole time
and then surprise
ya know, i hope the uncomfortable thing is her powers and not just her heritage in general.
cause if all daemons make ppl uncomfortable, theres a huge question of why
cause that stands in contrast to the nicer image zeke wanted to paint of them
mathtans
I'd say Satan was her father except I'm pretty sure Satan's a lady. Either that or the cliffhanger is that there's a librarian.
RebelVampire
somewhat off topic, but i really liked that one page on the boat that was all blue and white while zeke was talking about the daemons actually being good. the palette really made them see ethereal, but i like the contrast of how real colors make them look. like without that blue colored glass as it were, its kind of easy to see why someone would hmm if theyre good or bad.
yeah i kind of get the impression satan is that lady too
cause zeke did purposefully not use pronouns that i noticed
mathtans
Zeke may have his own rose coloured glasses too, mind.
Oh, that's cool. I'm not always good at picking up on art stuff.
I did have a look at the link to the time lapse video on the colouring of one of the pages... interesting how it was flipped horizontally at a couple points, I've never thought of doing that.
Actually, lots of the bonus stuff is pretty fun. Like Zeke's alternate magical transformation, or the 100th page breaking the 4th wall.
Maybe Satan is also the librarian.
RebelVampire
well zeke did say satan is just a title
so satan is the job title given to their librarians
i really loved that bonus page with zeke's alternate magical transformation
it was a good, silly addition in some serious moments
QUESTION 3. Vaguely, Zeke mentions that the hybrids were created because daemons needed something from humans. What do you think this thing daemons need is? Will Billie like the answer when she finds out, or is it going to be something that horrifies her? Why are the daemons so desperate theyâd even create a breeding program to get it? The comic also talks a bit about the history of daemons. What do you think was said and done in the past to create such a negative view of daemons? What was even the purpose of making them so hated? Also, who was even the main perpetrator of these distortions? Ultimately, how do you believe both the history and the creation of hybrids will play into the story and the daemonsâ goals?
mathtans
Interesting, I guess part of me just thought what they needed was love and attention. But maybe there's something in the genes.
As to the negative view, probably propaganda by cults. Maybe a jilted ex-lover.
RebelVampire
maybe it is love. i mean i dont consider it impossible. though i also would be concerned why daemons cant produce love naturally cause that has horrible implications
maybe humans are better magical conduits or something
idk why thatd be
but its the only thing i can think of
or maybe daemons have longer or immortal lifespans and they need some good ol' mortality
or
since the comic description mentions theres gonna be fighting angels
maybe only humans can fight angels
but they made hybrids cause plain ol' humans are too weak
but speaking of angels, i assume the propaganda was theres. which i mean, if all daemons make ppl uncomfortable, it was probably easy to manipulate the world that way
cause of course youd assume ppl who make you uncomfy were evil
although
if i go with humans kill angels thing, it makes sense why theyd do it. cause if humans dont like daemons anymore, there will be no alliance
mathtans
(Sorry, back) Yeah, it's weird unless they need a surplus or something... oh, right, magic. Hum, that's an idea.
Maybe a daemon can only be killed by a hybrid or something. They need one to go on a quest. Or the angel fight's a good one too.
Maybe the daemons have signed something like that they won't do stuff to angels, and so their hands are tied now that some angels have gone rogue. I wonder if there's half angels too.
Oooh. Maybe only hybrids can breed with angels?
RebelVampire
that could be.
i never considered thered be hybrid angels
if there are i feel doubly bad for humans
no matter what are the puppets
mathtans
Instead of horns and tails they grow wings. Very inconvenient as far as shirts go.
I wonder if there's some actual humans who can do magic, or only hybrids.
Also, their program can't be too successful if they've only managed under 10 in something like 20+ years.
RebelVampire
i got more the impression was that they wanted to start small
which either suggests 1) they really dont know much about the risks or what the consequences are so made a small sample size or 2) theyre afraid of there being too many hybrids
mathtans
Hmm, I suppose that could be too. Though seemingly they weren't sure if anything would even manifest, so maybe their sample was larger than we give credit for.
RebelVampire
im really curious if the blond friend is a hybrid somehow. especially since she didnt mind billie at all
mathtans
I wondered about that, but with so few of them, it'd be a bit of a coincidence.(edited)
Unless they're all from the same region on Earth or something, I guess. (Maybe she's an angel?)
It'd cut against the grain, an angel who likes to skip class and show up late and stuff.
RebelVampire
QUESTION 4. Besides the history of daemons, there are a few other mysteries floating about. Who do you think burnt down Billieâs house and for what goal? Was Zeke really not involved? Could it have been another daemon? How do you think Billieâs mother even ended up with a daemon? Did Billieâs mother really not know he was a daemon? Alternatively, if she knew, why didnât she tell Billie? Do you think Billie will get to meet her father? If so, how do you foresee that going? Additionally, how do you think it will go when Billie meets the other hybrids? Will she find newfound friends, or is she doomed to be alone? In general, what future events do you see happening in the comic?
they could be from the same region. maybe theres something in the water. but tbh it could just be a coincidence. i dont see why not.
mathtans
Maybe the shocking twist is, Billie's mom was actually an angel! And nobody knew!
I'm kinda curious to see the other hybrids. The author must have kinda figured them out, they were shown in silhouette early on.
Iris
just wanted to quickly say that this seems like a super cool chat, I'm really hoping that I'll be less busy during the next one and be able to get more involved ;o;
mathtans
Heya Iris. We all have our busy times, early March chewed me up.
RebelVampire
hoping it works out too! we'd definitely love to have you, @Iris ~!
yeah i really want to see the hybrids too
but mostly cause new charas
to see billie interact with
Iris
ty! gonna check what next week's comic is
RebelVampire
and have fun
mathtans
I'm curious about the designs, since they all look different. Which is a real interesting way to go on that. (Also, seems Billie lucked out in terms of her armour.)
RebelVampire
@Iris its kamikaze https://kamikazeanimated.com/comic/
yeah im kind of for the theory billie's mom was an angel just cause it seems convenient she got such nice armour
Iris
thanks!!
RebelVampire
i really hope we get to learn how billie's mother ended up with a daemon. cause im really banking on the fact that she probably knew.
cause the lie she told billie seems sort of vague and convenient(edited)
mathtans
I hadn't considered that. (Tinder?)
Iris
(demon tinder. cinder)
mathtans
"There's finally dating apps. Project hybrid is a go."
RebelVampire
appropriate name given the fire themes XD
plot twist: daemons invented dating apps
Iris
makes sense
mathtans
Heh. Maybe they've got a tech area.
So, Billie and Zeke... do we ship them? The conversational bits about being a cat make me think yes. But of course, I prefer to ship Billie with the BadGirl (tm), because of how I prefer yuri.
RebelVampire
idk if i ship billie and zeke yet. im not sure i trust zeke. not cause i think hes up to something, but he seems creepily loyal to the daemons to the point i wouldnt trust him to have unbiased decision making
mathtans
Billie hasn't totally trusted him for that reason though, so I feel like the lampshading makes it possible. Though if he's meant to be her mentor/trainer, maybe not.
Kinda related, maybe Billie will want to stay just because everyone around now won't have that bad vibe she gave to the other students.
Also, there's books.
RebelVampire
yeah i did kind of feel that will be a motivating factor
that now she has a chance to make friends
and not be alone
and i kind of feel that fact will make her stay for a bit "just to see what its all about"
and then shell come ot feel they are family like zeke said
but im also curious how the hybrids in general are treated in the society
cause i do worry theyre getting the useful tool treatment
mathtans
You need to make sure they're plugged in at night. Or they lose their charge.
(Billie's lucky, she doesn't have a tail, so doesn't need to charge up. Zeke, on the other hand...)
RebelVampire
billie is one of the fancy wireless ones you just put on the stand
mathtans
She's her own action figure.
Seriously though, yeah, I wonder if all of them are as chill about things as Zeke. Also, I wonder if anyone else is being monitored out there.
RebelVampire
yeah thatd be an interesting situation for billie to be in
having to monitor some other hybrid
which emotionally i dont feel will go over well for her
mathtans
Maybe she'll have to monitor BadGirl with the ponytail. And I get my ship.
I wonder if any of the other short forms for Satan will get used. ("Actually, my name's Stan. Someone added another 'a'.")
RebelVampire
maybe.
mathtans
Well, all the best to Billie then. Hope her next transformation goes smoother. (Oh, I also liked the whole "and then she died" gag, heh.)
RebelVampire
although now im wondering if satan is actually an angel or if this comic split lucifer and satan
mathtans
Ooh, that's a good question too.
RebelVampire
i guess well find out eventually tho. darn angel propaganda
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hey so i 'redid' the yansim characters but not all of them i wrote 2 much so
[I put the submission under the cut since it was pretty lengthy]
hey whats up guys i had 2 put this in a submission as well as literally typed this in a note bc im on data & i dont wanna use a lot of it
basically my au takes place in a college instead. seems more fitting bc theyre actual adults & just feels Right.
theres more characters than there is in the original but thats mainly because i took the âgenderbent versionsâ & made them useful (i pretty much made them in2 siblings 4 some characters lol) anyways!! lets break down the characters
also lads, lassies, non-gender specific term for those bc i dont know the term, im givin yall a warning 4 self harm, suicide, nsfw implications/rape, possible drug abuse, and the rest of the Basic Criteria
Akihiko (Previously known as Senpai): Heâs gay & trans. His name means 'bright princeâ which really has no significance, I just thought it was prettyâŚâŚâŚâŚâŚand everyone views him as a prince bc heâs rly nice and kind and forgiving and actually has a personality other than being a cardboard box. Eventually gets into a commited relationship w/ 'Yandere-kunâ who I really need to give a name. Akihiko has a twin brother, I took that idea from the possibility of a younger sister, and admittingly(admittedly???) enough, Koumiâs 'genderbentâ Hanako. Iâll get into detail on his twin later, but they have a pretty good relationship. Akihiko (it was at this point i actually looked up a name 4 him & went back 2 edit stuff bc i h8 senpai lol) is still childhood friends w/ 'Osanaâ, who I renamed Ami(i4got her last name i had 4 her). However, neither of them have romantic feelings for one another, considering Akihiko is only attracted to males, and Ami is only attracted to females(theyre gay.). Akihiko actually meets Ayano when she is about to commit suicide, when he saves her. Ami is there with him, so they both save her. Aside from slight backstory related stuff, Akihiko is actually rather popular. People like him for an actual personality this time!! Heâs very kind and puts others needs before his, which is rather dangerous. Ami has lectured him on this many times. Akihikoâs also known for having really good grades and being very helpful when it comes to tutoring others. He meets Ichirou (yandere-kun i literally just looked up anothr name his name means first son bc hes the first son btw lolol) eventually when Ayano invites him over. (sry this is everywhere btw i should have put this in2 a specific order) ngl i feel like this is enough on akihiko like if u wanna kno more abt him hmu on my main christopherpierre-official
Ami (Previously known as Osana): god shes so fucking gay like as soon as she met ayano she fuckign DIED bc she loves her so much???she thinks ayano is like. the prettiest fuckgin girl ever. holy fuckshit shes GAY AND WILL DEFEND AYANO WOTH HER LIFE!!!! Anyways. Ami comes from a dangerously abusive household, and as a result, took a lot of self defense classes when she ran away at age 13. (what year is tht in japan pls help) She still retains some of her 'tsundereâ personality, but sheâs more thoughtful of others feelings. She met Ayano as she was about to throw herself into highly active traffic, but she and Akihiko were able to stop her before she could hurt herself. As soon as Ami and Akihiko were able to calm Ayano down, they called an ambulance/contacted the hospital, considering she had a lot of bruises and cuts. They would later find out Ayanoâs father was extremely abusive, and the mother was unable to do anything because she was away on a trip for work. A lot of people know Ami for how assertive she can be, misinterpreting her mostly good intentions as aggressive. Ami is mostly known for her knowledge on medical related things, but she still has a slightly bad reputation because of how rude she comes off as. again thts enougb on ami if u wanna kno more just ask me!!
Ayano: still keeps the name bc I Like It?? its pretty fuck u. Ayano has none of her yandere personality. Sheâs fuckign AFRAID of everything bc of her SHIT ASS ABUSIVE DAD!! Her momâs still kinda yandere tho, but she didnt kidnal the dad or anything. Their marriage is founded off of Pure And Honest LoveâŚâŚ.until the mom kills the dad 4 being a homphobic shit bitch lol. Ayano actually has a lot of self harm scars. She barely gets to see her older brother, Ichirou, who is two years older than her, because heâs away or some shit idk he gets abused p badly too tho. Ayano is rly reserved & quiet & im debating on giving her bpd but its Iffy idk. she has ptsd & kinda sorta got raped by some Fucker in middle school (ichirou took care of the fucker (: hes dead.) so she has a lot of trauma going on here!! I kinda sorta projected some emotional trauma of mine onto Ayano;;; Obviously when Ami found out she was fuxking enraged. Ayano canât afford to move out of her house just yet, and her brother canât necessarily take her in, nor does he have her contact info. He kinda sorta left thr country for a bit?? Not sure what country I want this to take place in yet. However, Ichirou is fairly powerless against his father as well, so he took a lot of the beatings, (even tho this boy is fucking Strong as Hell like GOD FUCKIN DAMN!!! he can lift his own mom w/o an issue!! but he kinda left like right away as soon as he could & couldnt take ayano i mean she was still in high school & he Obviously has guilt over not taking her w/ him) but not as many as Ayano, seeing as to how she was the fathers least favourite. Her mother never married the father, and she didnât want the children to inherit his last name either. âŚ..anyways this is enough i thimk
Ichirou (Previously Yandere-kun): Gay. Loves Akihiko. Retains the yandere personality, but itâs not as bad??? He left the [insert surname household here fuck aishi its not even a Real japanese surname] household as soon as possible, and had immediate regrets. Loves his darling little sister with all of his heart, but itâs literally not incestuous. Itâs just good sibling loveâŚâŚâŚalso he likes 2 embarass ayano a lot lol. As soon as he met Akihiko, who I never mentioned to have pastel pink hair, he fell in love like, right away? Even though I personally donât believe in love at first sight (thatâs a lie I fell in love w/ most of my anime bfâs @ first sight i can shut the Fuck Off) Ichirou was just??immediately enchanted by this beautiful princeâŚâŚ.heâs just that gay. Heâs 2 whole singular years older than Ayano. actually not 2 whole years but w/e hes a scorpio tho. Ichirou has definitely been in relationships w/ other men b4 but they didnât work out too well. Some rando called him 'daddyâ once and wanted to fucking Die he has shit experiences with his dad & hates the daddy kink so much. He also has ptsd. Doesnât know how to deal with his emotions at all so he just bottles them up and lets them out all at once and itâs a mess. Also has self harm scars, and some scars from his father trying to Literally Kill Him. This boyâŚâŚstrong as fuck. Can lift his own mom. Has held Ami, Ayano, and Akihiko all at once. Somehow. Heâs just a really good older brother? But heâs also really sneaky. While he is jealous of the time Ami & Ayano spend with Akihiko (the A squad lol i just realized their names all start w/ the letter a) he does respect that theyâre really close friends, and nothing more. Heâs also aware of the unsaid feelings between Ayano and Ami (vry perceptive) so he doesnât care lol. However, he has little to no tolerance of anyone else being around him. He has a slight distaste for Akihikoâs twin, Kazuhiko (the name means harmonious prince i got a Theme goin on here) but he disregards the feelings. wow talk abt an Info Dump okay next 1
Kazuhiko (Previously the 'genderbentâ little sister/brother, made him into Akihikoâs twin brother): Heâs actually a yandere too?? But not 4 Akihiko. Heâs vry supportive of Akihiko tho. When he & his twin were in middle school, he gave his uniform to his brother bc he still got the sailor uniform, so he took it. There were some troubles but hey I donât know how this shit is dealt w/ so please. Just accept this brother supporting his gay trans twinâŚâŚplsâŚ.. He enjoys Ayanoâs company. She reminds him of his gf/d8m8, the 'genderbentâ version of âââ"senpaiââââ (theyre cousins but nobody knows yet so thats why) so he introduces them and they hit it off pretty well! Kazuhiko get Jealous⢠and nearly exposes his yandere personality but his Lovely Beautiful Nonbinary Girlfriend reassures him tht they only love him. He loves Yuuka (their full name is yuuka minako) so much?? He would kill 4 them. Literally. He almost has. & b4 i accidentally make a cishet character bc i Refuse 2 4 some???odd reason idk, kazuhiko is a Bisexual Demiboy who fell in love w/ a nonbinary who is okay w/ feminine aligned things. Back on track, Kazuhiko is fairly popular w/ a lot of people for many reasons, and oh wow what a Fucking Cliche ppl r strongly sexually attracted to him!!coolio. he looks nothing like koumis fuckass potato lookin little brother btw. But a lot of people hate the fact that heâs in a Very Committed Relationship w/ Yuuka bc shes not that pretty damn!! But she is. Sheâs so fucking pretty. To him, at least. He basically fucking worships Yuuka. this is A Lot next character lol
Yuuka (Previously 'Senpai-chanâ or w/e lol): Nonbinary whoâs fine w/ she/her pronouns, but also uses they/them. Very shy, Ayano & Ichirouâs cousin. Has a younger sister, and two older siblings who are twins. The younger sister is the old concept for the original little sister, and the older siblings are nemesis-chan & 'nemesis-kunâ. While Yuuka and their siblings have lived a fairly abusive life, they havenât sustained as much 'damageâ as Ayanoâs family. Yuuka & Ayano are related by their mothers. They are sisters, only a year and an undetermined amount of months apart. This means after Ryoba, Ayanoâs mother, or Sakurako, Yuukaâs mother, moved away, they lost contact with one another, never bothering to talk again. Yuuka and Ayano get along exceptionally well, and Hanako (u remember the little sister well her name stays the same bc its meaning is just flower child. also her design changes.) often refers to Ayano as an elder sister. Yuukaâs relationship with her little sister is somewhat strained due to the three year age gap, but they still get along regardless. Their relationship is strained because Yuuka promises to spend more time with their younger sister, but thereâs not much time due to an overwhelming amount of schoolwork, as well as their job taking up a lot of time, too. Regardless, Yuuka doesnât forget to call their darling little sister as often as she can, checking up on her and how well sheâs doing in school. next 1!!!! also i4got 2 talk abt their relationship w/ kazuhiko here bc i was rly focused on mentioning family stuffâŚ..oops (also 4got 2 mention mental health stuff??but like. yuuka has adhd, depression, anxiety, u can just ask me if u wanna know more tbh)
Hanako: i kept the name bc it just literally means flower child & honestly shes such a flowery child??anyways. Hanako retains little to none of her annoying rip-off-nico personality. Instead, she has set up a calm, shy exterior as a defense mechanism due to the many years of neglect she received from her father. (me @ myself y r all the dad characters fuxking Dicks in this like??okay damn.) On top of that, growing up, her mother was never around, due to the fact that she was in the hospital to a terminal illness. Instead, she had to rely on Yuuka for attention, since the twins, Tomoko (sister) and Kiyoshi (brother) left before she graduated her first year in middle school. Hanako also has difficulties with her schoolwork because she, much like her sister, has ADHD. Due to this, she struggles to keep up with the class, and has a hard time paying attention to almost anything that doesnât interest her enough. However, she has many supports, helping her as much as possible in many ways, which does make her feel better about herself. After her mother had made a full recovery and left the hospital in her current year, she has felt much better about herself, and her grades have definitely improved. Although her father did leave her a while back when she found out he was having an affair on her mom, she still managed fairly well on her own. i mean cmon its not like she liked her dad tht much lol he was a Big Fucking Asswipe hanako isnt as fleshed out as i wished her 2 b but shes not That signigicant to the main story??idk. like shes still in highschool & shes only 17 & this takes place in college so??i dunno. i mean if u got suggestions or smth..sure
Tomoko (Previously Nemesis-chan, made her one of the older siblings bc idk y not lol: Thereâs not much to say about her. Sheâs 28, which is only 11 years apart from Hanako. She was entirely capable of filling in the missing mother role for her and Yuuka, but she herself didnât know what to do. On top of that, she was more focused on getting the best grades out of the entire class, and was much better at academics than her brother. Tomoko has a very cold exterior. She is hard to connect with, and pays little to no attention to anyone elses feelings than her own. This mainly stems from the fact that her father, who she doesnât even consider a blood related relative, was too busy messing around with other women. buddy i dont know what else 2 write 4 tomoko like she just has severe apathy issues & just doesnt know how 2 connect w/ others. next character
Kiyoshi (Previously Koumiâs shit ass 'genderbendâ Nemesis-chan): Unlike Tomoko, he was able to fill in the father-like role for Yuuka and Hanako. Due to having to take on the role of the father, it put a large strain on his academics and work outside of school. He, at one point, almost had to drop out to take care of his younger siblings, but decided against it. He eventually decided to teach Yuuka how to do her own laundry and how to cook when she was only 9. Due to this, Yuuka was able to take care of herself and Hanako while Kiyoshi could work and pay their bills. Kiyoshi was only 23 when he left the household so he could go to college and get a degree, leaving Yuuka at age 15, and Hanako at age 12. he could b more fleshed out but im??i dunno. im Panicking okay do u think i can work on a character tht doesnt rly show up in the story a lot.
anyways im just putting all of These Guys in 1 this 4 now bc this is A Lot as it is. ill do more later also give me criticism on these pls
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I really like what youâve done with the characters (especially now that they have personalities and stories behind them, instead of just nothing). Also, the names you gave them were cute.
-Mod Sega
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umbrella academy
love vanyaâs style
donât really like golden boy luther even though heâs clearly just trying his best
the implication is that five could travel in time to before this time and an agency is on his trail
i love officer patch for putting diego in his place
so vanya shot fiveâs trust in her
so he uses klaus
so theyâre torturing the wrong guy - heâs just gonna tell em whatever they wanna hear
allison you asshole. is there literally no one in vanyaâs life thatâs worth her? nope
âyouâre an adult now vanya, you donât get to blame your problems on anyone but yourselfâ FUCK OFF ALLISON. she went to a goddamn therapist, she exposed what horrors you were put through, she made something of herself by mastering a damn instrument - no thanks to ANYONE ever believing in her.
she was trying to be fucking NICE. she literally was the only one who got NOTHING but shit out of the family - GREAT
im thinking that vanya is gonna explode in six days and take the whole of humanity with her. thatâs what makes her special - at last
my question is why pogo is so convinced of their dad being a good man and a loving father - in his own way
âsheâs your sister, she knows you didnât mean itâ thatâs as unlikely in that family as a talking walking chimp. CLEARLY thereâs zero trust between vanya or anyone. zero trust between any of them
i know theyâre trying to present pogo as the real dad in the family - but like - his whole character and insistence on the above is an insult to the trauma theyâve all suffered
âyou were a child miss allisonâ âbut iâm not anymoreâ she mirrors her projection back at herself. at least she can do that
of COURSE theyâre going to keep allisonâs discovery from the audience ugh. im really annoyed with the pacing?? xD itâs because the premise is so straightforward. i donât normally mind a slow pace but this is like - superhero kids x abusive household. alright. TELL ME MORE
yeah i knew five went pretty mad and started talking to an inanimate object. youâd think heâd have more symptoms of solitary confinement
i thought he killed her but it didnât work....he hit her in the neck, blood splattered, she went down, and she was back up again the next shot. some time shit? (edit: it was just her arm? those masks do some serious protecc tho)
ok but vanya is not amongst the dead
hey
the problem with these kids is that they donât have the fortitude to look beyond themselves. they never even realised that their mother is a shell of a human being due to some sort of brainwashing (yeah sheâs a robot?)
Diego doesnât realise that his come-ons (defensive manoeuvres?) are the way to instantly rebuff his only ally
wow why is everyone so shitty to vanya
oh allison, having that power must be a curse on your relationships. but why hasnât it ruined (obviously) her relationships with her siblings?
i know leonard is awkward but heâs just so friendly. and damn, finally somebody who appreciates her for her?
i love vanya though.
how did allison and luther find five and vanya in the middle of the streets though
these shitters ignore their âmomâ in everything - should we turn her off or not? why is that the first thing they go to? why donât they talk with her together?
vanya has the shittiest and smallest room....
now diego lashes out at vanya. EVERYBODY lashes out at her - because there are no consequences - and there never were
it almost seems like their dad was a robot himself malfunctioning
hypocrisy. everybody bottling shit up. luther suddenly waking up and being a âmonsterâ instead of golden boy. ironic
âi really need it for my nerves iâve been taking it since i was kidâ OOHHHH have ya? might it be to repress your fucking powers? seeing as, your dad just kept insisting nothing was special about you?
Leonard!!!! i am really really starting to like this dude. i think they are trying to do a double rug pull. trying to make him look shady (âfamily right?â), trying to make him look good, trying to make him look shady again.... but really thereâs nothing wrong with him
pogo is such a weird character. i really enjoy lutherâs and diegoâs conflict though.
luther really is still clinging to his privileged little âleaderâ role, his âoneâ role and he canât fathom why the others WOULDNâT stay - just. like. him.
so yeah the agents are time travelers - but they THINK that Five is gonna be the cause ey? bc who would act to CAUSE the end of time? stupid
broken contract? âweâre also going to end the worldâ so they already know itâs gonna happen - they just didnât know five was gonna try and change it and they were gonna be involved in stopping him. sounds like the time travel agency camps out in time before the end
personally think itâs weird theyâre spinning a romance between two people whoâve been raised as siblings but---- uh weird circumstances i guess
ok so it was a straight rug pull. unless - heâs being a creep throwing her pills away âfor her own goodâ. that would still make him not good but not organised evil.
DETECTIVE PATCH RUN!!! DONâT DIE!!!! sheâs gonna die isnât she. fuck
god fucking dammit. itâs gonna give diego a complex bc he wasnât there for backup. i dont give a fuck about diego i give a fuck about fucking detective patch fucking DYING. god fucking dammit
klaus fucking timetravelled oh my god
what the fuck tho like, this does not bode well for me at all. if they dare kill detective fuckin patch. for what. for a fuckin sad song
I LOVED THAT WOMAN
five grew super old before he ever left the wasteland?? all he gained was a bike
is that grace with a timetravelling suitcase?
did he not kill kennedy? you can retire to the time and place of your choosing - lol fucking bullshit. and i was right - time agency camps out before the end...
oh klaus has had an experience. sky soldiers? 1968. what was going on then? what war? right vietnam
Helen stopped showing up for first chair? hmmmmMMMMMM itâs like theyâre gonna try and build Vanya up. Vanya is DEFINITELY the key
letâs give klaus even MORE ptsd
butterfly effect: just kill a dude and time changes. maybe...try NOT killing someone, saving someone, changing someone ? to ? change time?
âyouâre not my mother. worry about your own daughterâ
âthatâs not fairâ hmmmm itâs pretty fair. i mean you barge back into somebodyâs life after 12 years and then finally when sheâs got a bf youâre like: actually! i bet heâs a creep. lol
i mean sheâs probably right but does she not HEAR herself? no bc these kids have never thought about anything else but themselves and their own perspectives
why the FUCK would allison walk in heels if sheâs been trained in combat
vanyaâs power surfaces....
no oneâs ever believed in me like this - hmmm. seems more and more deliberate. Leonard seems very enthusiastic about âout of body experienceâ?? âthis is your timeâ HMMM
LITERALLY an invisible force
the actress for grace is incredible. going from so animated as to seem human to so robotic as to seem not human at all to all these microexpressions mixing the two.
âdo you remember what happened?â hmmmm
anyway this series takes waaayyyyy too long lol going to bed
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Cheap auto insurance in Alberta?
I just got my first car and I am looking for auto insurance for the first time. Which companies offer the best rates? My car is 1988 mazda, how much does the insurance usually cost for my situation per month?""
Is having the minimum state car insurance a good idea?
i am a 23 year old college student in california with one point on my record. i have a 99 civic which i bought for 6k paid in full. I DONT HAVE ANY OTHER ASSETS. i recently looked around for car insurance and realized, cant i just get the minimum state requirements for car insurance? if i hit someone, they cant sue me because i dont own anything besides my car, right? would they be able to go after my parents assets? i still live with them. they didnt help pay for my car.""
Health insurance for college students?
I'm going to be a sophomore in college and I don't think my college offers health insurance. I'm looking for cheap health insurance that'll cover me for check ups with my pediatrician, visits to the dermatologist, and prescription drugs. Suggestions?""
Problem with Admiral car insurance... heeelp!!!!?
Hello Thank you for entering in my post I've been with Admiral insurance for more than 1 year, which is my 1st car insurance since I've been in England I've been driving for more than 12 years and I've never made a claim before it was a normal and clear day and i was going to work when I had an accident with a girl riding a moped It was a very silly accident, fortunatelly none was injured, and I only had a broken wind-mirrow, which is no more than 50 of damage I had to call Admiral, my insurer, to sort the problem out, I had no other choice Admiral told me I was not covered to go to work since on the policy agreement says: use for social, domestic and pleasure purposes only. And, according to them, to be covered, my policy had to be: use for social and COMMUNITY. So Community for them means, going to work, it is ridiculas but that's what i was told However they said we cover you, you will have to pay 23.74 extra and you will be covered, it was frustrating, a theft, but I let it go... The absurd story didn't even start yet! I gave Admiral all the details which the police had given to me the day of the accident plus some pictures of the scene, which I took before to leave that day Admiral sent an inspector who interwied me at my house. This inspector wrote a statement of 6 PAGES! about my accident, however, I need to say, he did a very good job On the statement states that none was injured and the fault lies with the moped rider, which is also what the police said on the scene. In addtion this inspector suggested to call my insurer again to finally get my car fixed. Admiral told me I will have to pay for the damage myself and, after all their investigation, if they find out it was not my fault, I can ask e refund for the damage, and they added that this investigation can take up to 3 years, so I will have my money back in 3 years! this is because according to them, the moper rider was injured This is absolutely incredible What would you suggest? I would like to get rid of this Admiral policy as soon possible, I would like to claim against it Who could I call to claim against Admiral? Any suggestion according this matter will be very apprecitive thank you in advance for your help""
Do I need a motorcycle VIN number to get insurance in NC?
I live in North Carolina and I'm trying to get a license to purchase and operate a 150cc motorcycle. In North Carolina you must have a license for an automobile before you can get an endorsement for a motorcycle. Right now I'm learning how to drive a van so I can get a motorcycle endorsement. Before you can get a license for an automobile you must have proof of liability insurance (DMV form DL-123). Do I actually need a vehicle with a VIN number to get liability insurance? Or do I have to purchase non-owners insurance first and then switch it over to motorcycle insurance after I get an automobile license with motorcycle endorsement?
Why do we need health insurance?
People complain about not being able to afford health insurance, and people aslo complain that the health insurance they do have doesn't cover what they need it to cover. Doesn't it seem more like health insurance is the middle man that keeps the price of health related goods and services at such a rate that is unattainable by the majority of US citizens? Wouldn't the tens of thousands of doctors be forced to lower their rates to an affordible rate if health insurance, as a standard practice, was abolished?""
""Please tell me the difference between insure , assure , and ensure . Thank you""
Please tell me the difference between insure , assure , and ensure . Thank you""
What options of affordable health insurance a couple in the mid 30's have in Texas.?
What options of affordable health insurance a couple in the mid 30's have in Texas.?
Will my homeowners insurance drop me if my dog bit someone?
So last week the side gate to my house was left open and my dog got out. She bit one of my neighbors down the street, I'm guessing out of fear (she is a rescue dog). The bite wasn't too serious, but it did break the skin so my neighbor went to urgent care to get bandaged up. We apologized and offered to pay any medical costs upfront, but my neighbor preferred to let our insurance companies handle the claim. My dog hasn't bit anyone in the past, and isn't considered a dangerous breed (labrador, border collie mix). We've let her off leash at the dog beach and dog parks with plenty of other dogs and people running around, and she hasn't shown any type of aggression. What I'm worried about is my insurance company dropping us from their coverage, and us subsequently having trouble finding homeowners insurance in the future. We tried convincing our neighbor to let us settle without getting the insurance companies involved, and explained the situation, but with no luck. Does anyone have any answers or advice about the whole situation? Should I make a claim first and let our insurance company know, or should I just sit and wait for the whole situation to play out? BTW I live in California and my homeowners insurance is Wawanesa""
How can I get cheaper car insurance as first time driver?
I am 27 years old and have postponed my driving up until now. My driving instructor told me that I am ready to take my test, so I am starting to look at the prospects of a car. I checked online using Go Compare and I can't find anything under 1800 for a Fiesta 1.2 What I was wondering is what will be taken into consideration regarding insurance. Should I perhaps do it by phone? Will my age help... Any advice is more than welcome. I know the first year is hard, but perhaps there is a way to make it a bit easier. I am doing the pass plus and I added to the search to have an excess of 500. Please help out with some advice. Thanks. Vince""
Rental car insurance?
Recently, I had a car accident. The car I drove was fine however the back of right bumper of the parked car was cracked and torn off. I was reversing parking and accidentally pushed the gas pedal hard. I talked to the owner of car and he said he will contact his insurance. The car I was driving was a rental car from hertzondemand.( Insurance was covered in the rate) Hertz said I have to submit the collision report from police station. I am seriously horrified of thousands of dollar that I probably have to pay. I do not own a car nor automobile insurance. But I do have an amex gold rewards which has Damage Insurance but I dont think it covers for the car I hit as well. I have been reading XII.LIABILITY PROTECTION under terms and condition over and over again but it gets me more confusing.https://www.hertz247.com/alberta/en-...20of%20Alberta Am I gonna pay for $250 and rest of them will be taken cared by hertz? Can someone clarify XII.LIABILITY PROTECTION?""
Car Insurance...????
How much would it be for a 16 Year old boy to be added on his parents insurance policy... Completed Drivers Ed Lives in Baltimore, MD Has really good grades It would be liberty mutual if that helps... thanks!""
What cars have cheap insurance for new drivers?
I have only been driving since january this year, i currently own a triumph spitfire that i have been restoring for the last two years, it is in really nice condition now and want something new, the insurance was only 756 for the first year which i was very pleased about. I want to sell my car an buy another convertible, but what cars have cheap insurance? i am looking into the the possibility of another classic or just a more modern car. all suggestions welcome. Thank you in advance""
If you have fully comp insurance & drive somebody elses car & have a bump will it cover damage?
my daughter lent her car to her cousin who has fully comp of her own but she crashed the car will her insurance pay for damage??????????
Will getting married affect me being on my parents car insurance?
Will getting married affect me being on my parents car insurance? My mom knows we are engaged my dad won't even know that until December. My husband and I just got married yesterday but our ceremony is not until August. I realized today I am on my parents car insurance. Am I still going to be on there or are they going to send a letter to them saying I am married or something? He already paid the premium until April 2012 with me on it so I don't think they can take me off til then? Maybe at the end of the 6 months I should tell them since I am getting married in 4 months I want to get my own car insurance since it wont be the full cycle done before I am married. IDK I just wanna know if the company will say your married daughter cannot be on your insurance??? I am kinda freaked out.
How long do you have in maryland to add a new auto to your insurance?
I'm being told that it's 14 days, when I thought maryland state law says 30 days?""
How can I compare various insurance plans?
How can I compare various insurance plans?
Im looking for car insurance?
coverage for individuals who are less able to afford auto insurance
How much would insurance be?
my step dad is putting me on his insurance, he has a 2006 dodge caravan.. how much would it be for me ( a 17yr old girl) to get put on as an occasional driver?""
Will my moms car insurance go up with my permit?
i want to get my permit, my mom says no because she said her insurance will go up. she has Geico. i am a Straight A student....how much more money would she have to pay each month? p.s. a number would be great =)""
Mustang GT Insurance? Buy or no buy? HELP?
Hey, I've been driving for almost 2 years now, I have a MG ZR at the moment but want to upgrade it in the next year or two. Been looking at the 1996 Mustang GT, Im from the UK and all these seem to be right hand drive? Is this a big issue when driving in the UK? will this effect my insurance? What sort of insurance rates would i be looking at? Anyone got any other car ideas that are similar to the ford Mustang GT, I have a real fondess for american muscle, a lot of people will probably disagree with me but i think it's because there not vastly seen here in the UK.""
Insurance companies that don't require college degree ?
Does anybody know of any insurance companies that you don't need a college degree to work at? Apparently you need one for liberty mutual which is where I was looking to work. I was working at American income for a month but was not satisfied with how the company is operated. I'm looking to go into property and casualty as well. Is there any good companies out there that will hire with a little experience and offer a schooling program for property and casualty? I already hold a life license good for the next 2 years.
I just bout 2 motorcycles and I am looking for a cheap place to get insurance through... Any suggestions??????
It's a 2007 yamaha and a 2005 suzuki, and I'm not getting anywhere with these insurance quotes. They are outrageous!!!""
Healthcare Insurance: True or False?
1. The Affordable Care Act does not require employers to provide health insurance for their employees. 2. No employer, in any state, is required to provide health insurance to any employee, full time or part time. 3. Employers do not have to report the cost of insurance on employee W-2s in 2011. This reporting is optional in 2011. The reporting requirement is intended to be informational and provide employees with greater transparency into health care costs. The amounts reported are not taxable.""
Does car insurance get cheaper after my teen years?
I'm am a 16yr male and car insurance is ridiculous. I asked some of my friends, ages 19-21, at work how much their insurance is and they said it isn't too bad. What's the average cost? I don't want to go through insurance websites and get quotes, blah blah blah. Thanks""
*****Why is its called Life Insurance?*****?
If I can only get if I'm Dead? And then someone else is spending my money!
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