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go-to-the-mirror · 1 year ago
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I am feeling incredibly okay about both of these scenes, by the way.
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claraoswalds · 1 year ago
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DOCTOR WHO The Star Beast
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astrhae · 1 year ago
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"she was my best friend in the whole wide universe. i absolutely love her. oh. mmm. do i say things like that now? she's so ordinary, she's brilliant." currently going absolutely feral over donna noble, temp from chiswick, making the same choice over and over again, and holding the doctor to his mark over and over again. donna noble who, in the fires of pompeii, made that choice to sacrifice pompeii for the world --- who saw her world burn around her just as the doctor saw gallifrey burn around him
donna noble who made the doctor save just someone. who still chose to be kind and brave and human and loving even in her grief and heartbreak -- donna who crashes back into the doctor's life for a third time and shows him through her choices that this is the doctor. not a god, just someone ordinary. someone scared and flawed and fallible, but someone who ultimately tries anyway. someone who despite and in spite and because of the broken world still cares enough to try and save it
and the doctor. the doctor, who doesn't know who he really is anymore, who spent the past hundreds of years without donna -- the doctor, who said virtue is virtue in extremis. without witness and without reward -- he finally tells her, no.
no, this isn't who the doctor is. this is who donna turned the doctor into. this is who he is because of her. and it's finally time to make amends
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lisa-cuddys · 6 months ago
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For everyone feeling the need to add that they don't want to see dt or ctate in dw again, to my gifset from David and Catherine panel re: the other idea rtd had for the doctordonna story, you DO realise I didn't ask for your opinion and you could just reblog the set and make your own post, right? also you do realise that big finish exists and even IF they decide to tell this story, it could be an audio adventure, right? yall can't enjoy a gifset or fun panel without inserting you negative 5 cents, especially under someone else's edit. rant over.
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thebadtimewolf · 2 years ago
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Your tags on the reblog of my post are so spot on. Double essay power XD. Martha really did become such an echo of The Doctor, possibly more so than any other companion that we had seen thus far.
eheheeeeee my brain comes up with random essays of doctor who out of nowhere and then i look back and either be like huh. Or huh? and that makes all the difference. now if i can stop doing this under other ppl's gifsets especially gifset ppl's blogs that gives off a certain vibe of [lets hope this doesnt sound like they stumbled in a roundabout racism rodeo with a repeated history of doing so and this was just a fluke]
to think, martha may have not been doctorified had the bbc writers had their way and gotten joke wheelhouse* to write and guest star... [shivers]
am i gonna use this to obsess the fact that both tentoo and dhawan!doctor both said "i am the doctor" despite both never measuring up to the original but rather the perception of the companion's take of the doctor with the twist of 'maybe now i will be accepted. maybe now i measure up' and doing the extremist thing the doctor themselves abhor doing while they do it with manic glee and then are crushed when the dr and companion dont see them that way? yes.
(Near the end to Master!Doctor) YASMIN: You're not the Doctor. You'll never be the Doctor.
MASTER: You going to let him do this to me, Yaz? Huh? To your Doctor?
YASMIN: You're not my Doctor! Because you know the greatest strength my Doctor has? She's spent her life gathering friends. She can't help it. And she is loved, because she taught us to never give up, even if someone steals your very existence.
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(about tentoo) ROSE: But he's not you.
[tenth doctor and doctordonna and tentoo jumping hoops to get her to like tentoo]
NEW DOCTOR: I look like him and I think like him. Same memories, same thoughts, same everything. Except I've only got one heart.
ROSE: Which means?
NEW DOCTOR: I'm part human. Specifically, the aging part. I'll grow old and never regenerate. [everybody still trying to convince her]
ROSE: But, it's still not right, because the Doctor's still you. [in referring to tenth dr]
And the
THIRTEENTH DOCTOR: You lost. You gambled and you lost. And now your body's failing because of what you put it through.
MASTER: Maybe. But if I can't be the Doctor, neither can you.
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TENTH DOCTOR: But you've got to. Because we saved the universe, but at a cost. And the cost is him. He destroyed the Daleks. He committed genocide. He's too dangerous to be left on his own.
NEW DOCTOR [TenToo]: You made me.
DOCTOR: Exactly. You were born in battle, full of blood and anger and revenge. Remind you of someone?
its all about the:
YASMIN: If you think I am going to let you...
MASTER!DOCTOR: I am the Doctor now! I am the Doctor! (in pain) You should have shot me when you had the chance. I need clothes. Try to escape, or touch anything, and I'll kill you.
that came from:
DONNA: Just, just wait for the Doctor.
NEW DOCTOR [TenToo]: I am the Doctor. Maximising Dalekanium power feeds. Blasting them back! Fulfilling the prophecy.
its about the companions that retain sense of self that lean heavy on traveling with the doctor that become doctorified but the ones that became an extension of the doctor are ostracized as a legitimate doctor regeneration by the doctor and companion themselves (tentoo and master!doctor)
because if theres an echo of the dr, rest assure the dr will avoid them [stares at the lack of tenth doctor adventures with martha audios while it feels like we gonna get ooh damn this shit is dry as hell bland cough cough dusty™️ tenrose audio season 3 and weirdly strong sexual tension tendonna season 4 audio]
its about the more you are like the dr the longer the dr never visits you its about the dr STILL HAVING MARTHAS PHONE DESPITE ALSO HAVING A SMARTPHONE ON THE SIDE
its about we aint never gonna see tentoo again at least dhawan!doctor acted so much like every single tentoo fanfic where tentoo is evil (ITS SO MANY ITS SO MANYYY LIKE SO MANY OF THEM AND THEY SQUEEZED AS MUCH AS THEY COULD IN POTD and dhawan ate it up and served it spicy hot and ready fresh out of oven on a clean plate steaming up glasses with a fresh cold drink we love our two 14s dhawan and tennant) that it brought david as the new 14th doctor
sidebar: dhawan and tennant got in marvel w characters in the same damn city. THEY ALMOST MET AGAIN one day. one day theyll meet and either fuck or kill each other and a coin flip on whether thats psychological or physical in doing so
*terf jk rowling but i misspelled because 🖕🏾em🖕🏾
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brilliantfantasticgeronimo · 6 months ago
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the giggle - thoughts and reactions (part 2/2)
obsessed with how much attention donna pays to the recap... ("is all of this true?" well there's some nuances donna but yeah pretty much lol)
"by a bird(????????)" favorite delivery of all time
yoo i saw gifsets of this scene and was sad they skipped 13 era but they DONT skip 13's era dfsklj (And listen im thasmin-truther thru and thru but flux IS more of a proper, affecting trauma than like, the doctor being a fuckboi for the 60th time skdlfjkdl) once again fandom was making a fuss about nothing ugh
the doctor's subtle shift+close-up when it comes to bill's bit in ze recap........... too soon
they contractually needed an scene where nph could show his card-playing magician chops hehe
"i made every opinion supreme. they shout and they type and they cancel. that's the game of the 21st century" ur brain on liberalism/idealist philosophy
"and u know full well we're both elderitch horrors" was such a sexy comeback lol
("doctor, the doctor, fun")
"we can be celestial" ok we didnt need to remember *that* about the toymaker, rtd :/
handmeidens .… interesting insult choice....
"every single one of you is fantastic" iidk mel i have my reservations about twin dilemma!six...
bi-generation is supposed to be a myth ... myht myth myth... EYES EMOJI. BLURRED EYES EMOJI.,!!!!! SALT. THIS ONLY HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THE SALT. (screams into the night)
"i think you're beautiful" "*still* beautiful" obsessed w/ it. yes 14 you’re still a beautiful woman probably.
"i’ll have medows of doctors dying over and over again" he’s just a whump fic writer. Let him be. Toymaker just #tag your shit and everything is OK.
HE SHRANK THE GUARDIANS INTO VODOO DOLLS sdlkfjd rip the funky birds!!!!
you loved rose and river AND YAZ!!!!. damn they SHOULD have put yaz there. it would have Worked so damn well with the themes of this special ghgh and would have actually delivered the point that 14 “says things like that now”. And would have connected all the arcs so well aghghghg.
Lol 15 trying bludgeon 14…. me when [the self-hate] (also // to donna’s "this is so therapeutic!")
but this is what i get... my reward... and is not fair
mmm… dr who is a tv show fuel → the toymaker gets “banished” from this reality… and he gets flattened .... like it is rn if u watch the episode. u are looking at a flat image of NPH...
“you do it day by day”... i cry (“that would drive me mad” let's hope fourteen's life doesn't go the way of The Hours (2002) directed by Stephen Daldry lol)
“my reward.... to come home” t.t aaaaaa mi fine IM FINE
a tardis that regenerates in the second act WILL bi-regenerate in third act
people were so mad that they didnt make it about change.... well yeah it wasnt about change. it was about rehab
if we see a tardis w/o the jukebox, that's not me (we don't see it...)
"you werent gonna leave without saying goodbye, were you?" "as if i would ever do that" (translation: damn, u saw what i was gonna do)
"good luck" (translation: bitch go collect NEW TRAUMA away from me)
the evil step mother dslkfjk
ching out for fandom 2 mine all the Gen Fic possible out of this situation for years to come. Peace.
CONCLUSIONS!
oh boy. dskflj let's separate it by points, I'm Eager To Soapbox tonite...
ON DOCTORDONNA:
this was a success for me in ways the star beast wasn't. there’s so much Food in this one. "to come home" "maybe i will save you", etc etc etc etc. It feels like it draws a close to 10 and Donna’s story... but not really bc “the story never ends”....aka: Fandom the ball is now in ur court, the ground is Fertile for us to produce decades upon decades of Gen Fic (and they even get a TARDIS a la deleted tentoo scene! so we aren't even confined to domestic stuff only!!!) it is our time to Feast. Merry Christmas and God Bless Us All <3
ON MESSAGING: This episode is, at the very least, made up of 2 hats: the first hat is " toymaker outfoxing The Dr." (no complaints in this), and the hat inside that hat is: “humanity going mad and being The Problem” ... this was good enough to be its own hat. but it is kinda forgotten? If this were a normal season I feel that would have been a full episode where we would feel the implications of it . maybe then I would respect it more as a Political Message / Social Criticism bc rn it feels very eye roll lib core / basic af... to Elaborate:
this is what prejudice works like only if u have no understanding of material conditions. "why are people so prejudiced? BC they're afraid and mad! their fear of the new makes them lash out!!!!" sure. but the reason *that's* dangerous is not bc suddenly everyone will start rowing on the streets, is bc 1% of ppl get *benefits* from this line of thinking. prejudices are not actually "born" out of "fear" and "madness" but are *carefully, intentionally constructucted and/or encouraged* by the dominant class)
(Meiners wasn't an "irrational" person, he was being /quite/ rational in furthering scientific racism …… germany's wealth came from exploiting nigeria, togo, rwanda.… meiners own wealth came from that. Slavery *is* logical if you’re an slaverer. Pretending it isn’t leads u to pointless things like trying to “argue” against socdems in power to further refugee rights… they don’t care. They are doing it because it benefits them. It isn’t a “flaw” in the system, it’s the system working as intended).
(so like, yeah this is a ~validating and ~poignant commentary to watch if u are a ~liberal (tr: center-right person) who wants to believe they're superior to conservatives (extreme right person), but it's... not actually an astute or meaningful reading of the political zeitgeist)
so yeah. that plot fumbled imo and my hope now is with the upcoming Kate and PM story we can go harder on "Dealing With The Zeitgeist" and maybe redeem this in the process. we shall see...
On The Big Controversy:
Bigeneration rlly rlly works for me ... tbh On a couple levels… first, the mechanical: the doctor after TTC has been thoroughly portrayed as a Weird Thing more than any other time recently. Ppl used to joke about “elderitch horror” doctor before but now it feels like… way more real. The Doctor is really fucking weird !! so having them split like a cell? To survive? Yeah to me that feels like a very “yeah, this might as well happen”. After The Regeneration Limit has been throughout Debunked in-universe, it follows that we would question... just how much life is there in this fucking guy??? well, too much to be contained in one body, babes!
SO, that’s the mechanical level… but on the emotional level? I love it even more. The thing to understand is that... in this story, regeneration is *not* a device for telling a story about “accepting change” (that’s been done, lbr, more than enough times before). Here, it is actually doing a new thing for The Show: it is telling a story about “the journey of Healing” (hopefully, the first step in a very long Journey focused on that). 15 holding 14, embracing him… that’s just, well, it's moving man. 14 is a mess and 15 from what I’ve seen is Fucked Up In Brand New Ways… but here, in this moment, at least they’re starting to show a little bit of self-compassion. That’s one of the hardest things there is man, and for a character that has gone thru sm Grief and sm Trauma and shown so much downright self-destruction, self-sabotage, season after season after season… (literally saying ‘no’ to Yaz the day before for (reasons)!!!)…. And like, going against every other “the doctor can’t stand themeselves” character beat since The Power Of Tree (which I love don’t get me wrong but!! it's always had Implications!!)!!! ... well... It’s truly hopeful. It’s relatable. It’s beautiful. I'm sorry some dw fans are so tired of DT that they truly are missing out on something Monumental for the show / the character in general. That leads us to... ON THE TRANSITION FROM 13'S ERA
I also feel ngl fandom seriously worries about such… unimportant things all the time. “oh but having a DT with a tardis out there MIGHT make people think Ncuti isn’t legitimate!!!!” bro every other white doctor was already out there having adventures in the TARDIS every other week. Ppl who don't consider 13 or 14 as legitimate were already doing that by refusing to watch the show and sticking to the watching the 40+ seasons of white males as leads that are literally a click away. Like I’m sorry to bring up old fanwank but sdklfjsd god, honestly that was such a bizarre, intangible worry to have. When u actually watch the special w/o all these marketting worries... They very much …… don’t forget 13 in these specials . in fact it’s quite the opposite sdklf to get a true Understanding of all the layers going on in 14’s arc, 13’s story are p much requisite viewing. and I'm a flux Enjoyer thru and thru but c'mon, we all talked about how the resolution was fumbled sdlkfjsd it's Good that they are doing the fallout of 13 committing a triple genocide now!!! these specials actually elevated flux, not the opposite.
That said... god, they really should have mentioned Yaz there at the end in that "we loved her" bit re: Rose/River... I don’t know, it feels so glaring? if you didn't want to alienate the normies, why mention flux and (all the 32408 mentions of lore) in this? mentioning yaz seems so less dangerou in that case. idk. perhaps it was On Purpose and The Shoe Will Drop at some point with 15 (RTD is after all the man who gave us canon Nyssa/Tegan when he really didn’t Have To At All lol this guy would make all the companions gay if he could), but rn it’s like :/ thumbs down on that. CONCLUSIONS TO THE CONCLUSIONS
just great "big event" dr who tbh! flawed and with some things that annoyed me but also with enough stuff to send me out to do/read fanworks for the next 15 years lol . nph annoys me sometimes but toymaker was perfectly done. lots and lots of character and lore implications to make me break the tumblr post character limit. execution wise... the effects were great and the set pieces really worked. messaging as i said was weak, tho like with the lack of enough Shirley+Kate+Mel+Rose development, knowing what we know from BTS news ... this is gonna be re-treaded ground again in a few weeks, so.. we'll see if this improves (or gets worse lol). watch this space~
the giggle - thoughts and reactions (part 1/2)
fourteen breaking up from the dance- w/ the toymaker-> "do you see why i broke with him?"
kate going to hug fourteen feels very appropriate sdlkfj kate is like 14 aka barerly holding it together lol distincly not Having Had A Good time for a while. Esp avoiding any serpents...she’s just 1 scandal away from a malcolm tucker "this job has fucked me in every hole of my fucking body" meltdown")
"no change then, there" rtd making all his rtd1 era political subtext into text lol
oh…. so kate is just 1 mind-funker away from becoming an immigrant-hating, disabled-hater, bravermanish AnCapp ........................ interesting to know (put a pin on that tbh. I feel we may finally get the antagonist!kate of our dreams (my dreams) in this era)
shirley being so "is it offensive? Well, borderline..." and "absolutely no need" and "don't make me the problem" feels kinda like... "oh we can have a have a badass disabled character but she can't actually impose herself or be an inconvinience in any way" ://
like damn in that exchange with kate, just have a "we'll talk about it later" line. From a non-political / strictly narrative-pov, that would give us a bit of a flavor for their relationship as well.
"can't you give everyone a mask?" "imagine trying that" the thing is. russel.......... they did very much give everyone a mask, DSFKLJ like *some* made a big noise and sure it's alarming for "what that means" but like... most ppl did in fact mask up sldfkj that was a very significant thing that happened, in fact.........)
the old archengel network~~
CANON WEST END MELANIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rtd taking "but no one watches television anymore!" people and giving them the middle finger <3 iconic
nah we were already mad dr. you're not that important
"that's righteusness! that's human!" but let us seeeee the effect. same problem as the first special. we're too much in the doctor's pov. let me see the *outside world* pov. rtd1 used to be so good with this :/
"you have my permission" autocracy? in MY dr. who? is more likely than u think
(what separates 14 from 10 is that like.... 11-12-13... they could all be quite ruthless, but those post-10 doctors didnt waste time with bs. they just Get On with the autocracy w/ no pretenses lol) (it's growth (tm) but at the same time........... oh, yeah, we're on a waters of marsy / ghost light-y path lol)
"hello" "hi" T.T so cute!!! i love them
"good old sabolom glitz" what an oxymoron lol
"I've got nothing. My family are all gone" oof. timeless child parallelsssss
also melanie if u want a family u just need to adopt a bunch of orphaned, supernaturally-enhanced teenagers. it worked for SJ!!!
kate WILL hire all your ex-girlfriends doctor and there's nothing u can do to stop her
"all this time and you didn't mentioned her" i mean tbf. i love melanie but .not mentioning sj *is* more alarming than not mentioning melanie sdlkfjsdklfjsd
"you're wearing yourself out" YEAH THAT’S WHAT I’VE BEEN SAYING
companions marathoning doctor who thru the doctor's head is always so clara coded
we can't have 10.000 …….. but we can have this “the first man picked up a rock” monologue.
(tbh actually......... i always thought it was very fitting for The Story of dr. who that the very first serial and is a historical about "the day friendship was invented" , so them invoking that rn feels very fitting. The toymaker, as a the Doctor’s Fun House Mirror Of The Day reframes that day (that story) as the day *murder* was invented. )
thie flashbacks make the toymaker serial look so much better than it is lol the land of stories serial >>> toymaker serial
"you never tell me to do that" he does actually jjkjkkklk all the time.......
"that's what unravels me, all the laws I cling to, gone" for The Theme…. → overcoming trauma is about accepting the irationality and injustice of it happening. It’s necessitates accepting that life can be fundamentally Unbalanced and not Karmic.
this ep is fun but is like.... idk some of 14's speeches here. Him being so clear-headed… it feels bit gratuitous? Unearned? this "im always so certain" as well... which *shouldnt feel like that* since we've had 13 seasons (40+ seasons*) of development before this. but idk it still feels like... too much too sudden?
"take away the toys... what am i? what am i now?" the kids aren't all right.mp3
maybe i'll save u!!! aaaaa TOT
(for all the talk about "i say things like that now" the doctor doesn't actually says she loves donna *to* her face here...)
“games don’t have a memory, every game starts from scratch” tbh that’s what watching the show is like sometimes lol even for us ~reconcile everything~folks… at some point u do gotta take each week as its own thing.
the giggle in my head………… // the drumming…?
lol the "i thought i was clever" puppetry imaginery and the twisting of the ten-era"help me" motif.. c'mon toymaker is just ur avarage fan fiction writer. u are valid my dude!! join AO3!!!
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filmtvfandom · 7 years ago
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Doctor Who. S04E01 Partners in Crime.
When she could go anywhere and anytime in the whole wide universe, Donna chose to first visit her Grandfather.
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jennalouisecolemans · 7 years ago
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GIFSET REQUEST MEME @stupidape and anonymous asked: Doctor Who + favorite platonic relationship "I was gonna be with you. Forever." "I know." "Rest of my life. Travelling. In the TARDIS. The DoctorDonna."
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go-to-the-mirror · 10 months ago
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[Read by Catherine Tate.]
"You alright?" the Doctor asked.
"Yeah." Donna smiled, putting on a brave face. "No. But I will be. You?"
"Yeah," the Doctor repeated, then paused. "No. But I will be."
DoctorDonna and "I will be."
@harrowq
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lazarusemma · 7 years ago
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#just stab me in the face it would hurt less (via @green-is-cosmic)
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go-to-the-mirror · 1 year ago
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[ID: The ninth Doctor (Christopher Eccleston) and Rose Tyler (Billie Piper) on a crowded street in “The End of the World.” The Doctor smiles and looks down at Rose, and Rose smiles and leans into his shoulder. Text reads, “I love my companions.”
The tenth Doctor (David Tennant) and Martha Jones (Freema Agyeman) on the balcony of the hospital in “Smith and Jones.” The Doctor is leaning on the railing, looking out and Martha looks at him while speaking. Text reads, “I love that they are so young.”
The tenth Doctor and Donna Noble (Catherine Tate) in the TARDIS in “Planet of the Ood.” They are talking to each other and are both excited. Text reads, “And so full of life.”
The tenth Doctor and Astrid Peth (Kylie Minogue) in “Voyage of the Damned.” The Doctor is kneeling down and looking down at Astrid, who is falling down into fire. Text reads, “And that they will still die first.” /End ID]
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lisa-cuddys · 6 months ago
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Sorry you're getting terrible comments on your gifsets. But also when I saw you mention the Big Finish stuff I was very excited. Because I have been thinking about that SO MUCH. "Wouldn't it be cool if they wrote them some extra adventures in audio dramas?!" has been a thought in my head for months now. But I haven't seen mention of that or it being possible. Thought it was just me being silly. Seeing someone else say it gives me hope b/c someone else thinks it'd be a good idea too! 14 and Donna have room to have a little fun on the side! They really do!
Thank you so much, dear anon!❤ and I totally agree, more doctordonna audio adventures would have been so great! and I do think that they actually might do it, because looks like writers love writing doctordonna stories, and David and Catherine would probably be thrilled to do more adventures on audio!
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princess-of-purple-prose · 10 months ago
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[ID: A Doctor Who gifset of Ten and Donna in the episode "Planet of the Ood". Ten asks, "Donna?" and Donna emerges from the Tardis wearing a big fur coat with a hood, calling, "Sorry, you were saying?" The Doctor asks, "Better?" to which she replies, "Lovely, thanks."
He asks, "Comfy?" as she walks to him while grinning. Donna says "Yup," and the Doctor frowns dubiously, "Can you hear anything inside that?" Donna says, "Pardon?" and the Doctor laughs, making her beam.
A cut to "A little bit later..." shows the two walking on the snowy planet, with Donna's hood now down. Ten says, "The Ood are harmless. They're completely benign. Except, the last time I met them, there was this force, like a stronger mind, powerful enough to take them over."
Donna asks, "What sort of force?" Ten replies, "Oh, long story," to which she responds, "Long walk. Ten says, "It was the Devil," and Donna glares and sighs, "If you're going to take the mickey, I'll just put my hood back up." End ID]
[Plain text: #classic doctordonna banter. End PT]
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#CLASSIC DOCTORDONNA BANTER
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