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flamsparks · 5 months ago
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Disney Princesses singing in their Native Languages (part 3)
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Part #2
Further info about my choices for the languages in this video under the cut
Tiana
In the bilingual city of New Orleans, where English and Cajun French had been coexisting for a long time, I would expect Tiana to speak both natively. I used the Canadian dub for French, not the one from France.
English Tiana: Anika Noni Rose French Tiana: Nancy Fortin
Anastasia
The story is about Tsar Nicholas II’s (then) lost daughter Anastasia. And since Disney acquired Fox years ago, that’s good enough for me to count Anastasia as a Disney princess. Typical me, yeah
Russian Anastasia: Masha Kats | Ма́ша Кац
Ariel
According to a book from the official Disney Princess franchise, “A Treasury of Enchanting Tales” (2019), the story takes place in the Mediterranean Sea in the 17th century.
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Moreover, Disney also confirmed that Eric's castle is located in Italy. Despite this though, since Triton is a god from the Greek pantheon (but not present in the Roman one), Greek seems like the logic choice to me. Please, note that this video is about Disney’s movies, not the stories behind them. Yes, the tale is originally Danish, but just like Elsa is not Danish, or Tiana is not German, Disney’s Little Mermaid is not Danish either. Please, understand that this is how folk tales work: they are told and re-told countless times, changing and gaining new traits as they go. Yes, this story comes originally from a Danish tale, and no one will ever take that away from The Little Mermaid
Greek Ariel: Ánna Róssi | Άννα Ρόσση (1998 re-dub)
Aurora
According to a book from the official Disney Princess franchise, “A Treasury of Enchanting Tales” (2019), the story takes place in a generic "Western Europe" in the 14th century. Looking closely at the provided map, it seems to me the place falls somewhere in Northern France or maybe in Wallonia (French-speaking part of Belgium).
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French Aurora: Danielle Licari (1981 re-dub)
Elsa
Anna and Elsa are daughters of a Norwegian king and a Sámi queen, as is shown in Frozen 2. It is also shown they have no trouble understanding the meaning of “All is Found”, a traditional Northuldra lullaby, which is certainly sung in Sámi. This means that Anna and Elsa are bilingual Norwegian-Sámi native speakers.
Norwegian Elsa: Lisa Stokke Sámi Elsa: Marianne Pentha
Source for the various international dubbers here
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violetrains · 1 year ago
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i love you tinker bell i love you silvermist i love you rosetta i love you iridessa i love you fawn i love you vidia i love you clank and bobble i love you terrence i love you queen clarion i love you fairy mary i love you pixie hollow i love you neverland i love you pixie dust i love you lost things i love you cute little fairy dresses made of flower petals and leaves i love you pompoms on tinker bell's shoes i love you music box with the ballerina that belongs to wendy darling i love you nature magic powers i love you tinkerfairy inventions i love you animal companions i love you fairy humor i love you fairy lore i love you tinker bell soundtrack i love you credits at the end with the cute illustrations i love you disney fairies movies i love you tales of pixie hollow books i love you tinker bell franchise
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the-aila-test · 1 year ago
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ECHO poster in sign language!
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simandy · 15 days ago
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Eu acho fantástico que quando eu falo em inglês eu pareço uma princesa da disney mas quando eu falo português eu sou um mano
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a3dde · 9 months ago
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I love my brain at three in the morning. That's when it generates crazy ideas. So today we will analyze symbolism in religious images that I saw in the cartoon.
My English is not very good, so I'm curious to see what happens. So I apologize in advance for any mistakes.
Let's start with something simple, like the fact that Frollo and Esmeralda pray to the Virgin Mary, which was strange to me as a non-Catholic. If we analyze this on the basis of images, the Virgin Mary is sometimes depicted in a Byzantine prayer pose. This means that the Virgin is the intercessor of the faithful and raises their prayers to God.
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My favorite moment is the one with the door, which many people have talked about as a symbol of God's intervention. In general, the first thing I associate with them is the phrase. "I am the light of the world." And also with the fact that Jesus Christ will enter this world through the Virgin Mary, as if through a door. It's an interesting combination. I like it.
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The lilies near the statue of Mary are a symbol of her virginity
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I don't recognize the saints around Christ, but Christ's pose reminds me of the Byzantine gesture of prayer with his arms raised and stretched upwards.
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Yes, it is more difficult for me here. So if I'm wrong, please forgive me. As far as I understand it, it shows the flight of the holy family to Egypt, where Herod was looking for the little Jesus to kill. Then the Presentation. As I understand it, after that, Christ preaches in the temple and the last element that is shown to us is baptism.
A parallel can also be drawn with this: in the cartoon, the extermination of the Roma takes place, and at the end Frollo, as the personification of sin, dies.
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In general, black predominates in Frollo's clothing, but there are fragments of purple and crimson. These are quite expensive colors in themselves. But in the proto-gospel of James it is described that when the high priest gathered the girls from King David's lineage to make the curtain for the temple of the Lord, the Virgin Mary was chosen by lot in these two colors. This is what haunts me. And the color itself means royalty, heavenliness.
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And this reminds me of Proskines's deep gesture
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thelien-art · 1 year ago
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Day 3 of @silvergiftingweek
Marriage | Bonding
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Peonie: Peonies are usually associated with romance, love, and weddings, one of the reasons is because it´s a spring flower, and another is the vibrant feathery petals that make a declaration in a bouquet
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my-lady-galadriel · 1 year ago
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I've just realized that Elizabeth and Will's wedding clothes in DMC have the same colours of Beauty and the Beast's clothes in the most iconic scene of the Disney classic: golden and blue!
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It's funny, because Beauty and the Beast (1991) is probably the most romantic Disney fairy-tale and I love the two protagonists, but I think Will and Elizabeth, as characters, are more similar to Aladdin and Jasmine of Aladdin (1992): both the girls are smart and indipendent, while the boys are kind and a little naive 😉
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Furthermore, Jasmine is the Sultan's daughter and Elizabeth is the Governor's daughter, but Aladdin and Will are poor, so they feel inadequate compared to these noble princesses 😉 But, at the end of the day, love triumphs!
Perhaps Disney created Will and Elizabeth mixing the romanticism of Beauty and the Beast (a fairy-tale love) with the vivacity of Aladdin and Jasmine (also a fairy-tale love, but more amusing)... 😄
Yes, yes, I know Pirates of the Caribbean isn't a fairy-tale. But some aspects of the relationship between Will and Elizabeth reminds me a fairy-tale (the humble blacksmith and the "princess" of the story? 🤩 It's so romantic. So fabled, if the word is correct - in italian I'd say "fiabesco"). And I really love these... these tales as old as time, as Mrs. Potts sings in Beauty and the Beast. Non matter "the realism". Fairy-tales mustn't be realistic (they're symbolic, metaphorical stories!). So, yes, Belle can love the Beast, while Jasmine can tour the world on a magic carpet with Aladdin.
And a humble blacksmith can marry a governor's daughter in the eigtheenth century 😉 Because each of them loves the other and fights for the other's freedom, and he's kind and loyal while she's bold and smart, and both are brave and passionate, and together are the core of Pirates of the Caribbean. That's all.
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theautistichalflinghole · 1 year ago
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Re-Ingesting media in a language you're learning is so fun because
You get to reexperience media you like with a new lens
If it's a good translation (or if the version you first saw was a translation) you get to learn some cultural elements as well ex: yawn is bostezo which I most likely would not have learned in a class
Its literally feels like a puzzle using context clues, what you remember of the original version you read, and the language you already know to figure out what it says. Me and my mom (who has a limited amount of spanish for medical purposes) literally just leaned over a Spanish copy of heartstopper to figure out a sentence and it was fun when our guess was mostly correct ("boy meets boy" is translated to "un chico conoce a otro" which we translated literally to "a boy gets to know another") and
You really get to see how far you've come in a tangible because in the span of a school year I went from recognizing a few words (due to my standardized "living in California" education) to being able to almost entierly understand the prologue which I'm aware is not a lot I would not be able to properly hold a conversation but it feels like a very real measurement of improvement rather than whatever my spanish grades are
Literally the best way to continue learning after getting your basic grammar down, highly reccomend
Also should probably @adhd-languages since they caused this post to exist
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the-poor-miranha-quotes · 1 year ago
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let's talk about how Marvel created an episode focused on a native superhero character speaking a native language and who, together with other natives, beats up a colonialist; and then in the next one they go there and the moral lesson of the episode is that there is no problem in creating an empire if it is to bring "Peace and Justice"
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lulu2992 · 1 year ago
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Hi lulu, so i was wondering if have you played Far cry new dawn in French, does roger talk in another idiom?
In spanish he stills talk in french
Hi! Yes, I played New Dawn in French and Roger has the same Québécois accent he has in English. It even seems he’s played by the same actor, Vincent Leclerc, whose name appears among the other French voice talents in the credits.
As for some of the (Canadian) French words he uses, such as “osti”, “tabarnak”, or “caulisse”, they’re typical slang/swear words from Québec that we don’t use in France, so they kept them in the French version and they sound as funny and exotic as they do in English.
It’s rare that Far Cry characters who speak with a non-American accent end up also having an accent in the French version of the game, but Roger thankfully kept his!
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immortalmuses · 7 months ago
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HOLYYYYY FUCK IT REALLY HAPPENED!!
WE'RE GETTING THE AVENGERS MOVIE IN LAKOTA!!!
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THIS IS AMAZING!! LAKOTA TIES ME TO MY RELATIONS AND MY ELDERS AND NOW I GET TO SEE SOME OF MY FAVORITE SUPERHEROES SPEAKING THE LANGUAGE!?!??!
Y'ALL GOT NO IDEA HOW MUCH THIS MEANS. PILAMAYA TO THE CAST, TO MARVEL, EVEN TO THE MOUSE EARS! EVERYBODY GO WATCH!!
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flamsparks · 5 months ago
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Disney Princesses singing in their Native Languages (part 2)
Part #1
Part #3
Further info about my choices for the languages in this video under the cut
Belle
“Bonjour! Bonjour, bonjour! Bonjour! Bonjour!”. Yeah, the story takes place in France. Please, don't ask me to elaborate on this.
French Belle: Bénédicte Lécroart
Nala
When “The Lion King” was released in 1994, a special Zulu dubbing was made on that occasion: it is the first and only Zulu dubbing made by Disney, as well as the only dubbing in any language spoken in Africa (other than Arabic), not to mention, the language sung by Lebo M. during the song “Circle of Life”. Yes, Swahili would have been the correct choice here, but given the rarity this dubbing is, let’s not waste it, heh?
Zulu Nala: Wendy Molefe (? Wendy certainly dubbed Nala in the spoken parts, while it's unclear whether it's her singing too, or another uncredited voice actor)
Snow White
According to a book from the official Disney Princess franchise, “A Treasury of Enchanting Tales” (2019), the story takes place in Germany in the 16th century.
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German Snow White: Alexandra Wilcke (1994 re-dub)
Anna
Anna and Elsa are daughters of a Norwegian king and a Sámi queen, as is shown in Frozen 2. It is also shown they have no trouble understanding the meaning of “All is Found”, a traditional Northuldra lullaby, which is certainly sung in Sámi. This means that Anna and Elsa are bilingual Norwegian-Sámi native speakers.
Norwegian Anna: May Kristin Kaspersen Sámi Anna: Elin Kristina Oskal
Merida
Again, please don't make me explain why the movie takes place in Scotland. Please. Sadly, Disney never issued a dubbing in Scottish Gaelic for Brave, but at least we got this one song taken from the original soundtrack of the movie.
Young Merida: Peigi Barker Elinor: Emma Thompson
Source for the various international dubbers here
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passionpluto · 8 months ago
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i've never understood cinema sins-type people who point out plot holes in movies because, even as a little girl, i was such a massive linguistics nerd that i headcanoned the reason ariel couldn't write a note to eric was something like "the mermaid language is pretty much phonetically identical to english, but with a lettering system that's incomprehensible to humans"
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agardenintheshire · 2 years ago
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me when brennan introduced the 3 dwarves w german accents and german names
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httpiastri · 6 months ago
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🦢Jak Crawford?
🦢 – send me a driver and i will give you my honest, unfiltered opinion on them!!
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jackie moon <3333 nothing but love for this boy. suuuuch a sweetheart. he looked a little tough and scary before i learned who he was, but i know now that he's the biggest cutie. don't think i have anything against him actually!! race-wise, i think he definitely has potential (there's also got to be a reason aston martin picked him up, yk) and if dams get their car going like they have recently, i think this could be a good season for him. also wouldn't be surprised if he's almost above felipe in the ranks at am because of felipe and his twitter usage 😶 maybe those were just rumors tho-
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dellinah · 7 months ago
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This makes me sad every once in a while and no person gets it except the other 5 who remember this show
Jungle Cubs was one of the best/weirdest classic Disney cartoon series because, while on the surface it's just your classic "your favourite characters, but as babies!" series, with all the cheesy songs and cliches that that suggests, the fact that they chose to do this with the Jungle Book characters— and have for some reason chosen to include the villains in this premise— lends the whole thing such a weird sense of pathos.
Literally all these characters end up disliking each other to a certain degree. When you watch the original film, none of them are still friends.
Even for Baloo, Bagheera and Hathi, the nominal 'good guys' in the original film, the full extent of their relationship as adults is 'Can Coexist In The Same Space Without Actively Trying To Attack You', which is a step up from how Kaa, Shere Khan and King Louie behave, but is still pretty bleak.
(Baloo and Bagheera do at least end up bonding again over Mogli, but they're not particularly friendly at the start of the film.)
There is an entire implied but unspoken tragic epilogue to Jungle Cubs, where the characters grow older and start to develop their adult instincts, species divides grow stronger, and they one by one either stop showing up at or are driven away from The Cold Lairs.
Every song, or joke, or laugh shared between these characters implies a poignant Last Time sometime after the credits roll. Every adventure is lent a certain dark irony, by the knowledge that many of these characters will surely resent these decisions to rescue their friends from danger later on in life, when the time comes to try and kill them.
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