#discussions of the afterlife

[loudclan-clangen]

Thinking abt how the kits would have absolutely zero grasp on the concept of mortality and death and how they'd be really confused on why their parents are upset and where Mothtree wen't :^)

Hi friend, I don’t want to be like a major downer but… Rosehipkit is VERY sick. She and Dogwood, more than any other kits, absolutely understand the concept of mortality and death in a way that they should not have to.

[maspers]

as a jew, the mormon afterlife is insane, because, like, we barely have an afterlife, and you have FOUR

Exponential growth?? Judaism barely has 1 afterlife, mainstream Christianity usually has 2, Mormonism has 4... makes me wonder which splinter sect of Mormonism is gonna grow into the religion with 8 afterlifes.

[princess-of-the-corner]

Gabe doesn't count in TA's mind because he'd simply say that Gabe has always been "just a man who loves his family." It's that whole bullshit "inherently good/inherently evil" rhetoric they have happening in the show. They did it with Felix too. Even if Felix was hated by TA initially, he was willing to say "Felix did all that because he loves Adrien oh so much, so he's also been inherently good this whole time" despite the fact that the plot of Felix's first appearance was him trying to ruin Adrien's life. He's talking out of his ass when he talks about realism.

Yeah it's just.

There is literally only one time I've ever seen 'the fact that you have, at any point in your life, ever loved another person means that we can ignore all the horrific things you've done' work.

And it sure as FUCK wasn't ML.

[wanderingmind867]

The greek afterlife as portrayed in percy jackson is one of the worst afterlives i've seen. You either get punished for eternity, sent to the gated community of elysium, or sent to purgatory to stand in a field and lose all individuality. God, none of those sound appealing. Those all suck. I prefer the egyptian afterlife, honestly. The way it was portrayed in The Kane Chronicles made it look a lot nicer.

Even the afterlives in the Norse stuff seem better. I don't really like Valhalla or Folkvanger, since they're for supposed heroes or whatever (and i don't see myself ever belonging there). I'd take my chances with Helheim. I trust that Hel would be a decent host. She's a bit gruesome to look at, but she seems like she cares for her charges. Also, I don't see her erasing my individuality like Hades would in his asphodel fields. So yeah. The egyptian afterlife might be best, followed by the norse ones. The greek one is probably close to last.

[flugame-mp3]

what do you fucking mean that's how charlie dies. THAT'S HOW CHARLIE DIES??? i mean i know the show has a penchant for killing off every character who's not a winchester brother or an angel of thursday but good god. what the fuck. charlie was such a good and enjoyable recurring character, and she had such a fandom impact that i've seen, and she's only around for THREE SEASONS?? (sidebar: it's amazing she has the presence she does for only being around for a couple episodes in the long run!) but: was this necessary? and she just dies offscreen after her skills are utilized to progress the plot of decoding the book of the damned?? oh my god. what in the actual fuck. i'm finding myself getting genuinely very upset at her death. she did not fucking deserve that. and i can absolutely see why the fan response to her death is what it is now. completely fucking unjustified and throwaway and useless.

[spookcataloger]

The Meaning of Life (2010)

[a-dinosaur-a-day]

Realistically, immortality would fuckimg suck. But I’d risk it just to see the future and full evolution of modern dinos

this is why I'm hoping there a) is an afterlife b) it's a nice one (thinking The Good Place) and c) I can watch the progression of Earth's history so that I can d) see how modern dinosaurs get on

frankly, I need that afterlife time machine thing so I can just watch the entire story that is life on earth from beginning to end. might speed up some parts at the beginning but I still hope this can be a thing.

[warlenys]

house’s afterlife is wilson….

[kald-dal-write]

what was Filip’s reaction when Cass died?

Think have to get into spoilers for TOFS if I have to guess fully what his reaction would be

Overall think they were mixed feelings, but overall he was sad over it, but couldn’t be sad about it for too long because he had bigger worries

Did doodle this a while back so can have that at least 😭

[magstorrn]

another thing i rly like about ac valhalla/mirage is that eivor meditates before battles (or a major kill) and basim meditates after them

[cherry-chaos-cola]

Everyone on the program: omg cool mummies!!!

Me, literally holding back tears: they are so far from home. Are their souls scared? Has anyone even offered them bread in the afterlife?

[udurghsigil]

i need to talk abt my ocs... or more specifically my oc universe.... i just wanna talk lore i got in the mood all of a sudden....

[fishskeleton]

I've been thinking about religion recently. Maybe it’s more correct to say: it’s been rare for me to spend a day this last year not thinking about religion. Why are religious people so corrupt? Always berating and rebuking. Chiding and reproving. Sentencing good people to hell.

I thought Christ was the judge?

The most devious lie is crafted almost wholly by truth.

Inconsistent hypocrisy masked by the glory of God? You cannot hide your sin. And most of you don’t even see it. Is faith blind or blinding? Is your behavior forgiving or obsessive? Do you follow the character of Christ or the carnal part of the duality of man?

I once learned that Mormons are less harsh than Catholics. Catholics believe in HELL. But now I see that there are scrupulous Mormons and hopeful Catholics. My dad taught me that people who leave their congregation are lazy. I have found that many are seeking truth.

—fishskeleton

[corellianhounds]

I won’t disagree with you about that being a racist trend in fandom depictions because you are correct, but that wasn’t meant to be the focus or takeaway from that story and I’d hoped it would be seen in context of the rest of the fic and characterizations. There’s a lot more that happens besides Manu assaulting the civilian, I was clear in tagging the warnings for the story to include PTSD, and I do think the story is a pretty clear criticism of how the clones were treated and dehumanized by many of those around them.

The rest of this will go beneath the cut because it got long and gets into discussion of the themes and story elements of Aay’han.

I know the story is grislier than what the TCW cartoon is probably like; the inspiration came from other sources, listed there at the top of the post, combined with some of the (unfortunately) realistic side effects of PTSD. As much as I’d like to say veterans who have been through combat and come out on the other side with mental conditions, illnesses, and disabilities only have to deal with the kind of trauma responses that are frequently romanticized and depicted in stories, that isn’t the case. Anger and unexpected outbursts happen. Not everyone who wakes up from a nightmare wants to be coddled, individual and group therapy may not work at first or at all, and some people are going to have violent responses that affect the people around them.

I also make it pretty clear that while what the civilian says isn’t okay, neither is Manu’s outburst, but he’s not “unthinking” in what he does— He literally did not have the presence of mind to realize what he was doing. It was a dissociative episode/fugue state. The whole point of that section (and one of the core themes to that story) is that Manu isn’t himself anymore. He’s an admirable and caring leader who went through something traumatic, and on top of a near-death experience he had to contend with an (involuntary) invasive medical procedure that is horrific to the clones specifically because of the resources it uses. He’s irreversibly changed both mentally and physically, and everybody besides the other clones is pushing him to “get back to normal.”

Sure, he’s grateful to be alive, but at what cost? He’s still being pushed back out in the line of fire to do the exact same thing again, except now he has the guilt of feeling like he doesn’t deserve to have lived when the two brothers whose body parts now make up pieces of himself are deceased, and their bodies by extension are still being forced back into the line of fire too against their will. None of them get to be at peace. Manu has the added inner conflict of feeling like he can’t get hurt again, or he’ll be disrespecting Talus and Warren and will be doing them a disservice by not taking care of them/the opportunity their sacrifice gave him by taking care of himself.

Even after all of that, any medical or psychological care he’s getting is from the Kaminoans who designed the clones to be replaceable either in part or in whole in the first place. I still wanted this story to have a glimmer of hope which is why Caius and the support group and the other clones are there for him, but he is a soldier who’s been through something terrible: recovery isn’t a linear road and there will be setbacks, especially if— like Manu— you’re forced to continue being put in traumatic situations. It’s called Star Wars.

I used to live with a retired Green Beret who wasn’t always mentally aware or in control of his actions. Side effects of PTSD aren’t pretty and are as varied as the people it affects. I think it’s interesting to explore that in stories and I think honest discussions about the realities of things like this are worth depicting and being aware of.

Also I’m not saying I’ll always nail the depiction of characters who are a different than myself, but I would like to gently point out that the fight with the civilian is not the only aspect we see of Manu, and there are several other clone characters in the story who are varied in personality, purpose, and characterization too. If he were the only character of color and that was the only attribute I gave him, yeah that’d be a problem, but it’s one part of a bigger picture.

Again, when I’ve screwed up by all means point me in the right direction, but I think the story as a whole makes it clear that aggression, anger, and violence are not central to his character, and they’re certainly not there because he’s a person of color. I think the clones should get to have their stories explored the same as any other character, and sometimes those stories are going to be tragic and upsetting. They’re still worth telling though.

[asthedeathoflight]

Am sick and stuck at home in bed so i think i will boot up Vectorworks and finally render this damn Warriors set design ive been sitting on

[polyamraven]

Jesus criminy