#corrective rape mention

[just-antithings]

sometimes i think about how the earliest anti arguments were raging against shipping (characters they interpreted as lesbians) with men, including takes like "corrective shipping" equating shipping to corrective rape

👨‍🚀it's all radfems?

🔫👨‍🚀 always has been

also considering how much "character is canonically straight" has been used by homophobes to attack queer interpretations of characters, it's not an argument queer fans should be fucking with

👆👆👆👆

[aqours]

i really can't get over there's a new wave of antis who really love saya from saya no uta that are just like "I LOVE HER SO MUCH BUT UGH THE GAME SHE'S FROM IS SO GROSS SHE DESERVES BETTER"

[saya from saya no uta] -is an alien rapist that eats people-

[nonbinarymlm]

The radfem who told me I make radfem strawmen and don’t argue with the “reasonable beliefs” of real radfems vs the same radfem’s “reasonable belief” that a literal body part half the population is born with is evil comparable to a swastica or the n-word.

“Reasonable beliefs”

Also if your entire ideology political ideology only works if you refuse to date a people of a gender that makes up roughly half the human population, then it’s a terrible ideology.

[caroldanverscanrawme]

It’s a terrible limbo, especially when you’re a trans man who isn’t ten years on testosterone with a full beard. Men have stopped me in bathrooms before to tell me it’s the men’s room, and thankfully I have a deep voice so once I say “yeah, I know” like it’s very obvious, with my deep voice because I have been on T for 3 years, they stop and leave me alone. But there’s always that risk of someone getting a little too sus, or a stall door that doesn’t lock properly, or any number of things that I am very aware could result in me being raped and murdered.

And I say raped specifically because sexual violence is often the response to people who are doing gender “incorrectly”, be they trans men or trans women. And that is something I remain very aware of.

Maybe Ive said this before, but I really need pepple to reframe how they talk about trans men when it comes to the bathroom debate. It always seems like the main issue is framed as cis discomfort, and other than that, trans men are just a "gotcha" and don't have any other role within this debate.

Its always the image of a fully bearded, ten years on T post op trans guy walking into a women's bathroom, making the cis woman uncomfortable, and saying "welp, this is what you wanted, conservatives 🤷‍♂️" and the scenario ending just with that gotcha. With the centering of cis discomfort.

How about we actually acknowledge the real danger trans men are being put in here. What happens when that fully bearded trans guy is seen going into the "right bathroom" by a protective husband, father, brother, etc. You either get beat up as a man, or beat up as a trans person.

Tired of people overlooking the real danger trans men are in just for the sake of a gotcha. It happens so often, and it happens even beyond this one debate.

[rigormortisangel]

cognitive behavioral therapy is the stupidest shit ever. i dont need to "change my thinking" i need to hunt child rapists for sport so other victims can get a good nights sleep

[just-antithings]

(tw transandrophobia)

there's a thing going around rn where trans guys express a fear of being forced to carry a pregnancy as a result of corrective rape (valid concern imo) and then trans women come in like shut up femboy at least u can get pregnant. as if living in fear of being literally forced to undertake such a dangerous and dysphoric experience is a fucking privilege. and I get that it's heartbreaking that they want to get pregnant and can't but this is not how you deal with that at all

yeah that’s really shitty

[ariel-s-awesome]

My mom put all her expectations on me to have her grandkids (I have two siblings) even after I came out as aro/ace. We have argued about my orientations on countless occasions!

Once she even joked about setting me up with one of her coworkers so he could rape me to fix me.

So what made her leave me alone? She saw me and my qpp and came to her own conclusion that this was some weird complicated lie to avoid admitting that I was a lesbian. Even if I'm still not birthing any grandkids for her.

I've given up. Fuck it. You've lost your chance to ever hear about my gender, mom. And this is part of why I hardly talk to you.

"tbh we might have clowned on [aros & aces] a lil too harshly" bigotry. the term you're looking for is bigotry. denying communities their vocabulary and ability to safely exist because you think you're the personal arbiter of which identities are "valid" is bigotry. minimizing and infantilizing and harassing entire groups of people based on their orientation is bigotry. aphobia isn't some forgettable phase of being cringe as a teenager, it's bigotry that inflicted long term damage to these communities.

[queersatanic]

ace people are queer as fuck

around this time of year, the meme starts going around that says, "it's june which means it's illegal to be straight"

this is all in good fun and understood as such. there is no real threat of such a thing taking place in society

but at the bottom, blending into the background, some versions say, "asexuals are OK but y'all are on thin fucking ice"

and that is not in good fun. or acceptable

CW: SA

. . . for those who don't know, a lot of ace people are targeted with "corrective rape" not only in heterosexual contexts but within the queer community where the assumption is perversely that the problem was they just haven't had the right queer sexual experience yet and need it foisted on them (which is rape) . . .

/CW

Now, this is a lot more fucking complicated than we're going to get into in this post, but please do some reading so you don't repeat these sort of ideas that lead to horrendous actual experiences for actual people.

If you have legitimate questions about this, feel free to ask them

but save yourself a little time and see if replacing another marginalized gender or sexual identity sounds really gross and/or terfy when you ask the same of asexual people.

[at-the-sign-of-the-fox-n-phoenix]

They’ll literally idealize someone from a thousand years ago who never had sex or seemed to never be interested, calling them a SAINT & HOLY PERSON, will literally pray to them to fix their problems, but when their neighbor is exactly the same way, suddenly its all ‘you’re selfish, your existence abuses anyone who loves you,’ and ‘that’s unnatural’ and corrective rape is then on the table to ‘fix’ us from the aphobe’s perspective.

36 ‘corrective’ rapes later and i’m still ace and i’m still not a saint. I see you and value you, @aroace-menace​.  Keep being epic, glorious human.

Aphobia is actually so wild though. I’m literally just chilling. Just going about my silly little life. And billions of people decide that my existence challenges their worldview and they’re not okay with that. That’s so funny. We have too much power.

[heavencasteel420]

Speaking of Will dating an older guy that Jonathan has a complicated history with: I am thinking of a Steve/Will fic I once ran across. That’s a pairing that, IMO, is messy but not inherently wrong if Will is at least 19, and only potentially awkward because of Steve’s history with Jonathan once Will is 22 or 23. But Will was 16 and Steve was 21 in the fic, which falls into “not statutory rape in Indiana but that 21yo is almost certainly bad news.” And, what was more, Steve in this story was INCREDIBLY self-righteous about it. There was a scene where Jonathan raised some very mild objections and Steve was like HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE ME. AT LEAST I DON’T SMOKE WEED ALL THE TIME. Which. Amazing. No notes. If I was writing the villain of a poor-taste stoner comedy circa 2002, that’s exactly what I’d have him do.

[chainsawprophecy]

getting mad online. sorry everybody it will happen again.

okay so idk how many of my followers know abt the post where those 2 aroace ppl started calling op (lesbian) a freak for expressing their love towards other gay ppl (and then they started saying they were punching up but also being positive abt it????) but i saw one of their other posts (the aroace ppl) and. uh

what is this

what fucking statistics are they citing??? what the fuck!? the reason the main acronym is LGBT is bc that is the vast majority of the community. asexual ppl make up a VERY small minority of it what is this fucking idiot talking about oh my godddddd there are literally so many documented cases of corrective rape against lesbians and gay ppl alan fucking turing literally committed suicide bc of it!!! holy shit!!!!!! maybe if you read a fucking book once in a while instead of vivziepop garbage you would actually know this

[altairtalisman]

Information On Dryads

[just-antithings]

There's an ongoing discussion about ace-specific issues on another app and long story short the latest development is someone insisting that the concept of "corrective rape" can only apply to lesbians and that it's appropriative to use it for ace people. Even though ace people are in fact being raped. With the express intention of "correcting their orientation". But no of course we can't use the term that actually describes that phenomenon because something something lesbians. Just fucking end me I swear

[wonder-womans-ex]

yeah I'm gonna tell people to die for spouting corrective rape ideologies. you would make a GREAT conversion therapist. you can say mspec gays and lesbians exist and I can think you're an idiot, but you're going one step further and literally telling gay men and lesbians that they SHOULD be having sex with the opposite binary gender. your ass is angry at the fact that people who are not at all attracted to or interested in the OBG and never will be exist

first of all, nice to meet you. I'm AJ and I'm not sexually attracted to men at all. no need to explain not wanting to fuck an entire gender. I'm practically a professional.

^some helpful resources.

sometimes, the words people use to express a sentiment don't translate 1:1 to what they mean. there are also words that can mean different things depending on the context they're used in!

example: a friend of mine says they want chicken nuggets. I say "You should get chicken nuggets."

in this context, the would 'should' is used as an encouragement to a desire already expressed, not as a directive to someone unwilling or unwanting.

when I say "lesbians and gay men should have sex with each other" I mean "lesbians and gay men who want to have sex with each other should, and that desire does not at all invalidate either's sexuality." I do not mean "women who only want to have sex with women and men who only want to have sex with men should have sex with each other, thus killing two birds with one stone and making them both straight."

no one should have sex with someone they don't want to have sex with. people should have sex with someone they do want to have sex with, provided that person also wants to have sex with them and is able to consent to it! a dyke and a faggot can fuck, and that doesn't make either of them any less gay.

p.s.: I get that you love gold-star homosexuals, but yelling at other queers on the internet from behind an anonymous screen isn't the best way to defend them.

p.p.s.: if you want me dead so much, come here and kill me yourself 😏

[robotpussy]

like.... saying that things that are considered the asexual experience can also apply to "allosexuals" isn't code for "asexuals are stupid for calling themselves ace or talking about the alienation they do feel" it means exactly what it says on the tin

[realasslesbian]

Just learnt Ellen Page did some advertisement for a corporation where she was in a threesome, and her partner was Asap 'turn a dyke bitch straight' Rocky and some other female and we really have sunk to the absolute dystopic depths of woke homophobia huh