#colleen hoover or something
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i love watching movies
#even the bad ones#even the ones i don’t like#the experience of reading remains superior to me tho#i like watching movies and Especially the good ones#but i just like to read. i can read absolutely everything#i read colleen hoover for a book club with friends once and it was insane#is it something that i usually pick up for reading? absolutely not#but if the opportunity comes around i think twice before putting it down
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How some people feel after shitting on people’s interests just because they’re popular or “basic”, and assuming they’re better than them for having niche interests (you’re the problem):
For anyone who needs to hear it, just because someone’s extroverted or enjoys popular things doesn’t mean they’re stupid or that they even can’t have niche interests too. Crazy insane mental concept, people aren’t one dimensional. Touch grass. Or kys. Whatever works best really
#listen I hate booktok but yes certain trends on there sparked this post#‘You should read silly romance!’ (what I read) and then it’s like Dostoevsky or something#like ok I hate Colleen Hoover and dark ‘romance’ shit too but girl bsfr#just because you like philosophical cerebral media doesn’t mean you can’t have some silliness and whimsy#if you think I’m not reading fucking War and Peace and then immediately binging objectively shitty romcom sitcoms#you’re WRONG#to quote Chappell Roan YOURE NOT FUN!#anyway#media#books#films#music#pop music#pop culture
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Everytime I see ppl on here complain about the "bad books" on tiktok I just know you're spreading the regurgitated moral panic from there about smut that women read bc if you were actually on booktok in a meaningful way, the brûlée crust of monster fucking books or whatever you're upset about is like the top layer of booktok. Underneath are disabled, POC, queer, and a mix of all three creators which recommend books that are probably more your speed. Asserting that all the popular books are bad without having read them and going further to imply that someone couldn't get anything out of them is an interesting (deragatory) thing to do.
Literally saw someone say it was anti-intellectualism to read "those shit books". I'm sorry??? Dressing up your put down of what women read as "anti-intellectualism" is a hilarious way to distance your condemnation from the ageless push to condemn anything women read. You are not more educated for reading whatever you do. You are not morally superior for reading "complex" work. Giving shit to a largely female base for liking fun smutty romance is not new. That's been going on for as long as women have been allowed to read.
What, truly, is the point of acting so holier-than-thou about this? What do you think is gained from making fun of people who read a popular book? You think that's all they read? How do you know? Even if they did, why does that matter?
I think some of you are stuck in this headspace where your reading level from school is still a badge of honor and through your own faults and pitfalls you feel as if being able to pick up a book on theory or even more advanced fiction and get through it makes you a better person somehow. It doesn't.
And frankly, given the choice of who I'd be forced to spend time with and listen to, I'd much rather it be some "tiktok girlie" going on about the newest published mary-sue pulp than have to hear you wax on and on about how you wouldn't be caught dead with a dime novel in your hands.
#there are a lot of people who never got into recreational reading and now their doing it in their late 20s and up#of course theyre going to go for stuff of a similar caliber to what the younger version of them would have liked#the amount of people that stick to one book type is actually very small#and over time someone who reads something like colleen hoover or whatever will eventually also get into other things#youre painting them as unintelligent for picking up a book because????#highschool bully behavior#booktok
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does anybody have any book recommendations
#i usually read philosophy and biographies but i want to branch out#preferably something that makes me feel empty after reading#or is at least well written yk??#i dont wanna read colleen hoover
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Dear internet,
Kindly stop recommending romance books to me as, contrary to popular belief, I am not a romance guy
Slightly bitter regards
Me
#please recommend me something heart wrenching#I want an adventure not a coffee shop please :(#like#ships are good#I can do ships#clearly#but I want a plot and characters outside of them#yk#flatpack speaks#anti colleen hoover#anti booktok#remembering my post about Jason Todd being a booktok girlie and correcting it#literaturetok girlie Jason Todd#I know they are good#they’re just not my thing#also what’s with the smut constantly?
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I hate you booktok I hate you kill yourself
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I love sexual symbolism
I think sex is often shunned when it comes to creation because it can feel “awkward” and if you are new to writing can feel like a very large uncomfortable feat
I know it was smth I really struggled with when I first started truly developing characters, every choice felt wrong or dirty
(That and the internet has really ruined a lot of shit with “spicy” books and whatever…)
But the only way to break that wall is to just write it, it can be inexperienced and it can be “gross” that’s all very true to our world, and it’s okay to portray that however it looks for you
There also no “right way” to depict something (within reason)
People are people!
BUT WRTIE YOUR SEX SCENES! SEX IS SO NORMAL! ITS OKAY FOR YOUR CHARACTERS TO HAVE THAT ATTRACTION THE SAME WAY ITS OKAY IF THEY DONT!
#theres also something to be said about sex when it comes to traumatized characters#but I won’t get into that rn I need to clean my room#write your intimate scenes#don’t let Colleen Hoover beat you#writeblr#i love writing#writers on tumblr#writerscommunity
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just wasted so much time going through that article thats like “1000 books you may have actually read” that gets passed around on here every once in a while and um. the list kinda sucks
#like i know 1000 books is a lot and there’s bound to be some that anyone looking through it would side eye#however. there should not be one malcom gladwell book in there let alone several#like imo those lists at least give the impression that they’re more literature geared so in that case there shouldn’t be any self help#books in there at all. and few ‘airport books’ a la colleen hoover#like one colleen hoover book is like okay whatever. she’s popular. but there should not be that many#also not one poetry book in sight (besides shel silversteen which i’m only kind of counting bc we all read his books as children)#children’s lit is fine imo. you aren’t likely to have read much else on these lists if you didn’t read as a child. it’s different#it’s also fun to check off books you loved as a child in these kinds of lists! it’s like oh hey that’s my friend i know him!!#also like. you’re not gonna put anything by shirley jackson or joyce carol oates in there??? toni morrison? mary oliver?? octavia butler??#HELLO this list sucks#sorry for sounding like a pretentious asshole but unfortunately i have a degree and a half on this shit so. i AM a pretentious asshole#sometimes at the very least#anyway maybe i’ll make my OWN list of 1000 books you may have read (already acknowledging that i will most definitely not have read#everything i put on there!!!) okay sorry i’ll shut up i need to go to bed#btw my score on that list was something like 83 and i consider myself a fairly well read person and am like. always looking to improve upon#my personal scope of the world through reading. idk if that makes sense but i think it does okay goodNIGHT
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me going over a fic chapter because i got a comment
> cringing hard
> "what did i want to do"
> "agony"
#IS IT BADLY WRITTEN OR AM I JUST BORED OF MY WRITING#i may be something of a colleen hoover myself...#maybe that's why i'm not popular i write cringr shsvsgs im sleepy
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making assumptions abt ppl's lives & even the depth of their personality based on what they have on their bookshelf is so dumb . tiktok die
#to be clear i dont mean the joke-y ones where its like ohhh if this is on her bookshelf run . like i know those arent serious & i dont care#but there are like an epidemic of 'booktok' ppl mostly white girls who have like . a goddam superiority complex because they read dostoevsky#once & they know other girls who like 50 shades of gray or something . shut up just enjoy the book its not a big dick competition#reading shouldnt be like a trophy you show around to let people know how Smart and Cultured you are#these types of ppl never post abt their actual thoughts on these books or the themes or analysis because they just want to gloat abt how#other people are reading colleen hoover but THEY dont#& the fact its almost always whites who do this again fits in with my theory that like#some white people just have this primal urge to feel superior to others but racism is out of style now so they have to find other things#that dont actually matter to feel better than others about
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I know some of classicsblr dislikes the way Madeline Miller modernized the Illiad for Song of Achilles but I loved Circe and I'm really liking this one so far
#you need modern pop culture titles to comp to so even if I didn't love Circe I would still read it#gay version of a tragic greek myth that's popular on tiktok = good comp title for a queer Helen of Troy retelling#I might have to rebrand to it being an Eris retelling tho#because of that Helen/Cassandra book that came out a few weeks ago#it looks good I'm just scared it will crush my hopes and dreams#possible other comp title is It Ends With Us bc it also involves intimate partner violence (Eris is a bad girlfruend)#while being popular on tiktok#but uh#what ive seen of that book is#how do I put this#bad#bad prose#misleading marketing#weird goofy details that derail the tone rather than lightening the mood#helen you deserve better than colleen hoover#eris you t--on second thought you might you apple rotten right to the core from all the things passed down from all the apples coming before#maybe i'll think of something better Idk#Song of Achilles × It Ends With Us just sounds more marketable than anything else I've come up with#i need to engage with booktok more#this is your writing ramble tm for the day
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#I’m sorry but I think they are awful#abusive#manipulative#and they are so stereotypical#even tho I have to admit I have not read the whole book#I’ve just watched some reviews of people who read it and they also read lots of pages from the books#and it was terrible#cringe writing#I’m sorry if you’re her fan or something#that’s just my opinion#anti colleen hoover#what do y’all think#?#book tumblr#books
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might do this thing on my substack where i ask (almost) all my friends to tell me their favourite book and then i'll read it and review it
#wanna do this as a youtube series maybe baptise my empty channel with it 🫶#but until i get the midnight cat dad sylvanian we have no mascot and i won't be showing my face#plus rn doing something written would be best lmao#this will bite me on the ass because my cousin's favourite is a colleen hoover book. but i'll do it for the bit#pia.txt
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the results of that "is fanfic a book" poll have shown me one thing and its that this site never graduated past that absolutely insufferable phase in 2013 where everyone acted like every book is the single most sacred thing on earth
#sorry rant incoming. you know like the people who got way too offended over dog earing or carving books for art or things like that?#that's what the notes section of that poll feel like. just way too many people (on both sides) putting way too much importance on Books.#like first you have the 'um ive read fanfic that was deep and beautiful and thematic so yes all fanfic is books' votes#which like. ok. ive also read really deep thematic screenplays but that doesnt make it a book its simply not. what a book is#then you have the honestly even worse 'um your reylo au isn't like the works of the masters its not REAL BOOKS' crowd#which like. yeah most actual published books are not as good as the 'works of the masters' whatever that means. so you have proven nothing#which brings us back to the absolute worst of all 'colleen hoover & co aren't books either' SOMEHOW#like. ok well i think her work is pretty bad but it was literally edited and published into literal books so#if you're going to decide that you get to be the arbiter of what books are Good Enough to count as Real Books well you've lost already.#because no that's not how any of this works. youre fighting one of the most famous Losing Battles in all of art discourse.#a book is just. a format that writing can be in its not some holy status you have to work to acheive#and to try and turn it into that is really stupid and self important i think because like again#who gets to decide what books are Real? what motivates them to make that choice? what biases are benefited from that?#i think its worth noting in conversations like this everyone wants to deny female romance authors the title of Real Book#(which yes a lot of those books are very shallow or badly written. many have outright offensive tropes)#but nobody mentions the equally shallow and offensive stuff by/for men. like william johnstone's shitty cowboy books for example.#no matter how you try to frame it youre going to lose the second you decide something has to fit your standards to be real art.#avpost#its very reminiscent for me of the conversation around modern art where people just want to say they know what is and isn't real art#based on like whatever standards they want. 'ugh its just dots it's not real art'. do u see where im coming from.#a book is just. a piece of writing that was edited and published in the form of a physical book. that's it. its a v literal if vague noun.#it can be something with a lot of depth and meaning. it can be shallow and hacky. it can be nonfiction entirely. its not a value statement#which can also be said about art as a whole some of it is very shallow and bad. some of it is extremely skilled and profound#anyway. no fanfic isn't inherently books but some fanfics have undergone editing & publishing and became books i think#and that doesnt mean that they're 'as good as' the classics by really skilled writers. but theyre still books#tbh a lot of the published fanfic books are worse than most nonbook fanfic. them being books isnt a statement of being more valuable.#its just a literal fact.#i think its interesting to discuss but i swear its not a huge deal whether fanfic is books the bigger deal to me is#the weird attitude popping up on both sides. which i think most people would also find stupid if their brains hadnt been like#totally ruined by an uninterrupted 5 years of insufferable-on-all-sides fanfic discourse that has ruled this website.
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u know I continue to lurk on tiktok for diverse book recs and content bc the literary community on tumblr isn’t as big or interconnected, but also there’s nothing worse for my sanity.
I now have an anaphylactic response to the phrase ‘no thoughts just vibes.’
#people making fun of heavy annotations bc ‘wow … they’re really wasting time. they must be taking themselves out of#the story every time they stop to write something down. could never be me I like to live the story nonstop’#LIKE SHUT UP. OH MY GOD LISTEN TO YOURSELVES.#colleen hoover fans . die#double shot
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i bought new books heheheheh i bought The Great Gatsby and The Idiot by Elif Batuman
my next big spend will be on the new hayao miyazaki and sofia coppola films
#i wanted something serious & something ridiculously romcom but those bland/repetitive cover romcoms were gonna make me pay over 2k pesos#i do genuinely enjoy those books despite their cover designs!#better than that colleen stuff#i read most of those hoover books just so my opinion is not unfounded#ako
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