#cockles break up theory

[heller-destielle]

What’s the break up theory?

Oooh the cockles break up theory. It's a doozy! Get ready to spend some time going down the rabbit hole

[theyarebothgunshot]

if you're still taking suggestions, could you give your take on the breakup theory? Loved your writeup on pre-break era cockles

it's been a while since someone has asked me to talk about cockles, so i am rusty but let's see how it goes..... lmao

first of all, i will say that over the years my thoughts and theories about whatever is going on between them have changed so much. honestly my answers to what i think happened during break up era will probably change depending on the day.

for example, where i used to be sure that there must have been something solid going on between them even in those early years, ever since the poem men in woods i have changed my mind about that. to me, that poem screams jensen, and if jensen was indeed misha's new friend who tried to kiss him, i am more prone to assume that maybe the lines between very very close friends and something more were blurred at the time, but never really defined in the first few years before the 'break up era'.

i think we can all safely say we clocked something real there, real attraction, a real connection, but other than that who knows how they both saw their relationship or how sure they were of whatever was happening between them?

i do have some broad/vague thoughts (like i said, these could change any moment and is based purely on what we know and what we don't know aka fill in the blanks) on what might have been going on. i think it's possible that they both felt an attraction to each other, that jensen knew that misha was poly witch vicki and that jensen and misha either did actually explore that attraction or that jensen at the very least let misha know (by kissing him and god knows how else) that he was into him. and then, unfortunately, cas got killed off and suddenly they no longer had a valid excuse to keep blurring those lines.

because of everything that has been documented about that point in time, i have a strong feeling that jensen said or did something to fuck things up between them and upset misha and probably had immediate regrets but misha wasn't taking any shit and took his time to process everything and only when it was clear he would be back, did they hash things out.

they were clearly very very close, i mean they exchanged jewelry, this isn't something most men do with a coworker, so whatever was said or done was obviously hurtful cause even if they never explored each others bodies i have no doubt that misha valued (and still values) jensen a lot and that he considers him one of his closest friends, probably even back then. and the fact that misha was so very messy on stage, getting drunk etc, and jensen clearly tried to 'win him back' only strengthens the theory that they didn't even know what they were doing themselves back then, cause otherwise they would have been way less messy and loud imo.

[cooloddball]

it’s insane when you think about the fact that misha had auditioned to play prince charming on once upon a time. if he had gotten the part, he wouldn’t have auditioned to be cas on spn and he wouldn’t have met Jensen. we wouldn’t have cockles or destiel and josh dallas would probably not have met ginnifer goodwin. it’s funny how things work 💭

amendment ⬇️⬇️

so actually it was during 2011 when they killed cas off that Misha was offered the role. anyway if he hadn’t gone back cockles would probably still not exist (because break up theory) and josh and ginnifer would probably never have met.

am i forgetting my cockles lore?

[deancrowleycas]

Sorry bu t what does se hinton have to do with cockles drama

Sorry, but I have no clue what you're talking about, nonnie. I guess it's something in the break-up theory post that I linked in the other ask but I am honestly not the biggest follower of that theory and it has been a while since I last read those posts. Maybe ask a cockles blog since they probably remember this stuff better? 😅

[thewolfatmydoor]

Just thinking about the break up theory and how no matter what they were before, and no matter what they evolved into once Misha was back on the cast, everything they go through now is probably tinged with some bitterness. Speaking from my own perspective from things that have happened to me, that changes you. It will forever change the dynamic of you and that person, even if in the end you both end up together there will still always be that hurt there. That level of broken trust that you probably won't ever get over. I guess it is making myself sad time.

[moriart-corafan]

Can we talk about this gif...?

Jensen's face is not "Wow...! Cass can wake out and walked up like S4 bamf!Cass is so good! I am so touching and emotional and thanks to god (whoever exist or not!)"

Like what Dean will feel if his friends or family (like Sam) woke up from some serious, hopeless situation. Like there maybe tears circling in Dean's eye, relieved, overwhelming touching and emotional....etc

I personally feel (think) it is Jensen seeing Misha come back but not Dean seeing Cass wake up (maybe Jensen was out of Dean for a moment but the director keep the scene??)

Jensen's face is like "wo....Misha is back, thank God, Misha finally is back...... my Exboyfriend is back, oh, I should be sad right now because he is an ex but not my boyfriend now, but it is so good to just seeing him back.... looking at his face I can't stop from smiling ......"

Maybe there’s more to it all than I thought.

[misccee]

Cockles Goggles

Ok but

Why oh why wouldn’t Jensen want to talk about season 6 or 7 too much? Hmmm . . . 🤔

Video by SpnConGirl

[pray4jensen]

So the fall out was between 2011 ish. Some cons you can see and one episode I think its where there in Bobby's junkyard. Somethings off. Anyway, Jensen gave Misha a ring promise but when Misha was mugged it was stolen. I want to hit Jensen over the head with a breadstick for this. I have never seen Misha like this and makes me wanna shout lol Jensen called Misha a whore, in the convention Misha then went on to do a panel with Seb Roche and sat on this yellow duck. Jensen and Jared had the panel

hi anon, i think your message got cut off or if you tried to send me other asks, i definitely didn’t get them so i’m not 100% sure what you’re talking about but i totally agree about hitting jensen over the head with a breadstick,,,,,,maybe it will give jensen the self-control he desperately needs,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[domesticatedangel]

i lied i actually dont like sex. put your clothes back on im going to explain the cockles break up theory to you

[cooloddball]

Let me add something real quick.

No one knows for a fact that the breakup theory is 100% true bit what makes it at least 95% plausible is the way Misha was with every other cast member including Jared and the way he was with Jensen.

We know they were so weird-misha was a sobbing mess while Jensen was trying so hard, harder than usual to seduce Misha but it wasn't working.

Remember him falling him.on the floor at jib 3 so Misha could give him first aid? Then later during the closing ceremony Misha stayed as far away from him as possible. When Jared went to talk to Misha at the closing ceremony, Jensen lost his trail of thought looking at them and got really sad afterwards.

It was all very sus.

Heyy👋🏻 I'm a new fan as well, what is the break up theory ? Can you link me to a post or explain it please ? 👀

What is the breakup theory? 👀 Do you have a link or explanation? thanks in advance!

ohohoh anons, i hope you have some time on your hands because it’s a lot. in short, it’s the theory that at the end of 2011, something happened between jensen and misha that caused a rift between them. this is based primarily on misha’s behavior (getting drunk at cons, getting angry/sad/rude and answering dean/destiel/jensen questions in a very weird way) and jensen’s efforts to ‘make it up to him’ in 2012. 

the conclusion that people draw from this is that before they knew that the writers were gonna kill off cas, jensen and misha had a thing. but when they found out that cas, and thus misha, was off the show, they broke things off. based on their behaviors one would be drawn to think that jensen was the one who broke things off, and who later on had regrets about that (probably especially when they brought cas back into the show). 

[cooloddball]

This is going to be a super long analysis of jib3 starting with the opening ceremony to the closing ceremony so brace yourselves. 

Please note I believe in the breakup theory so maybe my opinion in this one might be biased so please don’t come for me, lol.

I will put it under the cut to avoid overcrowding your dashes with cockles shenanigans. 

Also, watch out for profanities and mature language.

And so it begins...

Opening ceremony

The camera used to record the opening ceremony is shaky. 

Misha, Jason Manns, and Jarpad seem to be having a lot of fun together and Jensen is just looking at his besties talking to the man he loves and he knows he can’t have that so he just stands there looking at them. Poor guy.

Jarpad asks who took Misha’s riffle? Things are awkward, I honestly don’t know what’s going on.

Misha kisses a plushie while making eye contact with Jensen and Jensen is like “oh, oh, wow” while making eye contact with Misha. LOL. Jack help me. This is a lot!!!

Jensen takes a plushie from Sebastian and Jared takes the one Misha had.

Are you guys flirting about trying to see whether you can keep plushies alive?

Misha throws something at the fans, I think he was throwing treats from earlier or whatever it was and Jensen says “Misha is still throwing” I mean why?

Cockles Panel

Jensen is so extra in this panel.

First of all, when he and Misha come out (no pun intended) a song starts playing and he starts dancing. Jensen is usually so poised while dancing but he is over the top throwing his back and shaking his tush for the mish.  I think he was trying a little too hard. Misha spares his ex-boyfriend’s tush a glance smiles and looks away. LOL. The whole thing was cringey, tbh. It was so unlike Jensen.

When Sebastian touches Jensen’s shoulder and says something to Jensen, he [Jensen]  laughs way too hard. I would say he laughs abnormally-it’s loud and he throws his whole body into it like he’s trying to prove what Sebastian was funny and it probably wasn’t. He laughs so hard he ends up right on Misha’s side. and Misha laughs at that though.

Rich says something about something in the sac that hurts(It’s incoherent) and Jensen says it hurts right here pointing at his heart (I can’t hear what they are saying exactly so if anyone knows please let me know)

I don’t know if Mark P. was going to hug Jensen or not or he was pointing at something behind Jensen, but at that moment, Jensen sees Sebastian going to hug Misha and whips his head away from Mark P’s direction so fast he almost broke his neck.

Sebastian humps Misha (these two are so playful I love them) and Jensen is just there acting awkward 

There’s a comment by Rich about “It’s over, the convention’s over I’m no longer your bitch” I don’t know who this is about.

Now, now, now. This whole time Rich is doing a kissy mouth with his fingers on the monitor behind Jensen and Misha. His hand is right where Misha is standing (you’ll understand once you watch it) so Jensen makes a kissy face back and Misha is blushing? Ummm wtf is going on here?

Jensen also does something strange that he never does during cockles panels he pulls his seat away from Misha.

Misha makes a very weird comment about Sebastian’s libido drying up and they have a weird conversation about libido and Viagra ads. It’s weird.

It gets even more awkward Jensen talks about bringing a total stranger, and a blind date. And it goes downhill from there with them. The it wasn’t you it was me speech. It was special. So heartbreaking. It was clearly not about the show but about their relationship. I always have a difficult time getting through that part. It’s so awkward that the fans are just there wondering what the hell is going on.

They decide to take questions and the fan is all over the place so Misha interjects but Jensen won’t let Misha say what he wants to say so he says, “This is why you make it awkward. You never let people finish what they are saying.” Ouch. Domestic dispute vibes anyone?

The way Jensen is looking up at Misha when he’s answering that question. It’s like he wants to sear his face into his memory before they leave Rome.

Jensen is explaining to a fan how one of the four sound stages they had on set was full of furniture and Misha adds “and soiled mattresses”  I mean what was the reason? Did they soil the mattresses with their [redacted]

A fan mentions something about Dean and Cas so these two adorable dorks smile and share a look. Things are starting to look up. Thank Jack.

The fan says something again (I can’t make out what he’s saying) but it must be something nice because they look at each other with smiles on their faces again.

Jensen playing with the head of his microphone. Is it just me or did the temperature rise a notch higher?

The way they look at each other when the fan says to help him choose the hottest female cast member on the show 

Then something freaky happens they say the exact same thing as twins or bffs do sometimes. LOL.

When they start talking about the hot women with the fans Misha moves his entire body and now instead of looking at the fans, he is seated facing Jensen.  The tension is simmering down.

A point to note is that in all their panels they always sit angled facing each other as opposed to facing the crowd save for this panel and DCCON 2019. But for DCCON I can understand that they weren’t comfortable being meant to be a J/2 panel and a creation event. So you know some people in that crowd are super mean to Mish and others to Jensen, so they had to tread carefully. But I digress back to the chaos.

They ask who wants to have a cockles panel the next year and they both raise their hands. I thought that was sweet

 It’s adorable how Jensen keeps repeating everything Misha is saying.

Misha forgets himself and moves too close to Jensen to listen to the song on the phone. Jensen turns to look at Misha, I don’t know what that look is but Misha backs away laughing.

Jensen’s face journey while listening to that song is gold.

Misha moves closer to listen to the song.  I have to say the way they are standing is not usually how two bros listening to music usually stand. If you know what I mean

 Misha agrees that’s definitely Jensen singing. Of course, he knows because Mr. “Jensen sings to me all the time”

He looks so proud of him.  I’d venture to say he’s happy to hear Jensen sing because he has always been so shy about that fact about himself. He even gives him a standing ovation. That’s so adorable. He loves him. My heart.

Jensen is so cute trying to deny it’s not him singing that song.  Yeah, it’s you, Jensen. Even your ex agrees it’s you and we bet he knows how your voice sounds in all kinds of situations ;)

we get a tingly feeling so we know it’s you. Jensen’s adorable smile when Misha says that. Aww.

The way they are not even looking at each other but they are seated the exact same way.

Allow me to explain to my friend here. Explains how his parents didn’t know whether he was a boy or a girl. Misha with the steel chair, “when did they figure out that you were a boy?”

How many years did they call you holly?

For six to seven years

Is it just me or is this conversation a flashback of teenage twink-lesbian Jensen years?

Fan asks whether Dean will ever forgive Cas. Watch Misha’s body language, he is trying to pacify himself by rubbing the back of his neck and fumbling with his shirt.

When Jensen says “ No!” without a moment’s hesitation, Misha looks distraught? I don’t know maybe I’m reading too much into this but I feel like this hit too close to home being that they were most likely broken up.

Misha however has a different opinion, “I think he has” 

Jensen says, “Wishful thinking” and that elicits a smile from Misha.

A fan asks about Dean giving Cas the trenchcoat back and things get interesting.  Weirdly, that Jensen can’t say the word gay out loud. He literally uses the word “unmanly” in its stead in the guise of censorship? It’s not a bad word Jensen you can say it. However, Misha and the fans say the word so I’m wondering who is censoring Jensen’s use of that word. He eventually says it but super fast.

Jensen says that saying “I always knew you would come back” is not something he would say to another human being, especially a man. Jesus, there’s nothing wrong with saying that to another human being you care about. He’s the one making it gay. He was extra when answering that one.

They spent one and half hours making that scene just to end up not saying anything and it ended up looking gay anyway. Anyway, that’s interesting.

 Jensen angles his body towards Mish and says in a very low soft and sexy voice “I guess I really hoped that you would come back some day” I would venture to say that Jensen at the moment in the panel was actually saying them to Misha. Who knows though?

They talk about it a whole lot for something that bothered him that much. 

Misha being so excited about recreating a scene when a fan told Jarpad he’s amazing and Jarpad said "you are welcome. 

 “I think I understand what she wants. I’m not sure what she’s gonna get.” This is a very good line Misha. I will be using it often.

The way they awkwardly stand too close and whisper to each other. Umm…what is going on here?

Jensen folds over laughing because of something Misha says. They are back. The tension is almost 90% gone now and they are in their element.

The chaos of recording the alarm ringtone for the fan was just great to watch. They kept getting closer and closer and I think they might have shared spit at that point. Gross….LOL

The way Misha is sitting is he you know.

Jensen asking Misha whether he was saying anything or just screaming while they were recording. I think he just wanted to see Misha smile.

Jensen’s joy when a fan mentions that they have Misha’s résumé.

Jensen saying the word shit made my day. I curse a  lot and it made me feel validated somehow.

Misha calls him dickhead in return and Jensen stops functioning and laughs instead . He also gets all hot and bothered trying to fumble with the lapel of his shirt.  He does this a lot when he is turned on. He has a humiliation kink I think.

They start talking over each other about Misha’s special skills. Looks like Jensen might have known beforehand because he went straight for that. Or maybe he didn’t know but he knew since Misha is a mad genius there must be some amazing things in there. Either way, it was a good moment.

OMG Jensen is so excited and the way he motions to Misha to bring that résumé to him, LOL. This man was thirsty AF.

He even goes down from the stage to meet Misha and invades his personal space trying to reach the résumé. I think this is the moment the tension between them dissipated completely and they were back to some form of normalcy.

Misha holding Jensen’s shoulder trying to get his résumé back. Unsucessfully, I should add.

They read something funny and they fold over laughing and spin around like overjoyed seals. It is far removed from the mollusk family but at least it’s still a sea creature (I don’t know what I’m saying please don’t mind me)

Jensen is still on his knees laughing and can’t get up. As I said, he is being too extra in this panel.

 Misha is trying to talk but they both can’t stop laughing. I think Jensen laughed so hard he got an extra set of abs that day.

Jensen is still laughing and you know what he is laughing at? Misha’s special skills being acting on camera. I mean it’s funny but man, prayforjensen.

 They are still laughing. Jack, help them.

The way Jensen looks at Misha with pure adoration here makes me so happy and reminds me of the fictional characters they played being all heart eyes for each other.

 Misha laughed so hard he cried.

Jensen trying to read the next ‘special skill’ Misha has but he can’t even talk because of how funny he thinks it is. He’s trying so hard not to laugh but he can’t help himself.

Jensen agreeing and also asking the audience to agree that Misha has a knack for certain accents. Accent kink anyone?

 Jensen is so excited when Misha starts Tibetan throating singing and does the unicorn laugh facing away from the crowd. Bet he has experienced Misha’s Tibetan throat singing skills on a personal when they are (loud overhead helicopter noises followed by thunder rumbling)

Jensen falling to the ground after feigning a heart attack once he saw that Misha is a certified EMT. I mentioned before that I honestly, 100% think he wanted mouth to mouth. There’s no other explanation. He could’ve feigned a nose bleed or just about any other illness but he chose to fall on a dirty floor and lay down so Misha could either give him the breath of life or straddle him. Luckily for him his dream came true 7 years later at Jib9 when straddle gate happened. But I digress

Too bad Misha was still mad at him and heartbroken so he kicked him instead.

Jensen knowing that Misha kayaks seems to be part of his personal knowledge. Maybe they did it together sometimes.

Horseback riding. Hmm is it just me or do they seem awkward here?

 Misha is so close to Jensen’s armpits. Must be missing his man’s musk and being held in those muscular arms again. Poor baby.

Misha can’t talk because of how funny he finds bicycle touring. I mean…I don’t see what’s funny but I guess he knows why it’s funny.

Misha laughing and raises his legs because Jensen is elaborating on the bicycle touring. Maybe it’s an inside joke or maybe it’s no longer funny to me because I’ve watched this panel like 5 times.

 I think Jensen’s goal was to see Misha laugh and be happy because he turned to look at Misha who was still laughing hard and the joy on Jensen’s face. Aww.

Misha gravitating towards his man again. He must smell really nice Misha. And those arms. Bet he used to lift you against the wall and (this fucking thunder won’t stop rambling. Are chuck and Amara fighting again?)

Jensen marketing his man’s carpentry skills but then makes sure to make it ‘no homo’ by saying he would never sit on anything Misha has built. Sure Jan. Then he circles back and says that he knows that he can build things.

Misha walks away from him and he looks up to make sure where he is going. Maybe he was afraid Misha was walking out on him. (PTSD from their breakup?)

They mention acting on camera again.

And laugh 

Jensen keeps talking about the acting on camera and watches to see if Misha is still laughing  He still is and Jensen is happy that his baby is happy. He looks at him again and he is still happy that Misha is still happy. Then once the laughter dies down he starts talking about bicycle touring  and checks again to see if Misha is laughing which he is so Jensen throws his head back  unicorn laughing and then looks at Misha again to see that he’s still laughing. Then they look at each other and say something maybe it’s about that was a good laugh. Jensen is wiping tears from his eyes because of how hard he laughed  Misha does the same. That entire thing was insane and they seemed to love it.

 Jensen starts saying that being this happy or goofing around is how they are on set sometimes and have to take a 5-10 minute break and Misha doesn’t seem too happy at the mention of the set. 

Jensen knowing that you can buy résumés on eBay. Did he buy Misha’s and then plant someone in the audience to bring it up or? Okay, yeah I know I’m reaching here but it’s probable.

 I guess my theory wasn’t farfetched because Jensen says that he’s pretty sure that Jarpad put it on eBay the previous night so maybe he is the one who did all that to win Misha back?

Jensen knows the appellation clogging is a stretch. Seems like Misha has told him about it before.

Jensen looking at his watch to see if they have time for  Misha to be telling a story about his high school sweetheart and now wife. I bet he wishes Misha could tell their love story so openly. He can’t stop looking at Misha.

The way Jensen is looking at Misha here. WTF man? He’s literally confused about what the question is.

The personal space question. This whole thing was just so many things. It was awkward, cringey, thirsty, funny.

when the fan asks whether there’s a funny fact between Jensen and Misha. I almost fainted. What? And Jensen repeats it. The two men are so stoic. They are not even looking at each other. They are looking at the fan like the way a statue stares at you, unmoving. Cringe.

The room is so quiet. Poor girl, I hope she didn’t feel awkward afterwards because if it were me, I would’ve cried from how stoic they looked and how quiet everyone was.

How they both scratch themselves, Misha on the head and Jensen on the nose. Maybe the question hit too close to home

Jensen turns to look at Misha as if to say ’help me out here man. We don’t wanna disappoint our fans.”

Misha gets it because he gets up. This whole thing is gold.

The way Jensen breathes out in anticipation. I know it was like they were playing a skit about personal space but why was he breathing like that? Shouldn’t he have been playing it as ‘uncomfortable’ not ‘turned on.’ Boudoir mannerisms.

Moving on Misha is unsure on where to touch Jensen 40.31. This is weird in and of itself because usually, they don’t have a problem touching each other’s faces, tush, eggplants, (jib4 anyone), backs et cetera. But now it’s weird? *cough* breakup *cough*

Misha touches Jensen’s ear and Jensen literally moans. He frigging moans people. In case it is not clear in the video, here is an isolated audio version of it. Jensen is also fumbling with his shirt like he’s all hot and bothered. Just like Misha did earlier. Was Jib3 their couple’s therapy that reminded them how happy and horny they made each other?

Jensen is really not answering the question, to be honest. He’s fumbling for words and trying so very hard to make sense but his word are  incoherent.

Misha going in for the nose dip. I know friends do this all the time but you have to be very close and familiar with someone such as a friend friend or a sibling for you to poke a finger in their nose. I mean noses are slimy and eww…anyway. That happened. They seem so comfortable with it. Jensen I love you but please stop talking.

The way Jensen looks at Misha. He has the cutest smile on his face as if saying thank you for making that fun and making me horny, I still want you.

Misha wiping his pinky that touched Jensen’s nose on his pants. (I wanted to add something disgusting about what heshould’ve done with that pinky but I won’t so let’s move on)

Jensen wiggling his nose.

When Misha suggests that Spn moves to Nickolodeon. Jensen laughs a bit too hard.

Misha talking about spn being a puppet show reminds me of how he mentioned them having a puppet show in Jensen’s backyard after the show is over.

Jensen also saying that in a way spn is a puppet show. I mean is someone making snide comments about how their strings get pulled and sometimes they are not happy about it. Like how they fired his boyfriend. It seems like it’s an inside joke.

They named the plushie Zippy aww :))

For jack’s sake guys, the way they look at each other when they mention that the  résumé was the highlight of the panel.

Jensen saying the more dirt you dig up on Misha, the more rewarded you are. Aww, someone’s trying to win his man back by any means necessary. You go girl…I mean Jensen.

He talks more about how he’s looking forward to next year when fans have more dirt on his friend Misha. Jensen didn’t want to leave the stage, he was lingering so he could spend more time with Misha.

It’s over guys.

Closing Ceremony

I know you didn’t ask for the closing ceremony but here you go. It’s a free gift.

Can I just mention how Jarpad is an overactive puppy? He has to play with anything and everything he finds.

The mc announces Misha twice for some reason. The second time Jensen looks in Misha’s direction with a small smile on his face. He [Jensen] is also chewing vigorously.

Jensen and Jarpad being typical dude bros and karate chop Rich. This is why the difference between his relationship with Jarpad and Misha stands out. He would be too busy making heart eyes to Misha to kick another guy. LoL.

Jensen hulking out when Jarpad is taking a video of everyone. Lol. This video keeps reiterating my point that his relationship with the two men is just different.

Jensen keeps looking in Misha’s direction, Misha who is busy talking to Steve and having fun. Let me also mention Steve is Jensen’s bestie and so are Jarpad and Misha, but I’m sure that Jensen felt some type of way, jealous when they were having so much fun with his man and he couldn’t. Jarpad also takes a while filming Misha for Jensen of course. They remind me of me having a crush back when I was in school. Wait, did Misha look at Jensen? It’s hard to see because the angle of the video is not expansive but I guess he was.

As soon as Jarpad gets back, Jensen takes the camera from him and starts filming fans. I’m sure he just wanted Misha to look at him

Rich mention’s Misha and something about acting on camera and Jensen licks his lips looking at Misha (I think).

Jensen then vigorously grabs the microphone from someone immediately and mention’s Misha. Jarpad’s reaction at that moment tells you everything you need to know about what’s going on between Jensen and Misha. It looks like he is pleading with Jensen in his head saying, “Don’t embarrass yourself bro. Please don’t” but it’s too late.

Jensen again talks about Misha’s résumé and specifically about acting on camera, the thing that made Misha laugh out loud during their panel. Someone’s smitten. Defending his ex-man.

Jarpad goes to whisper something to Misha. And they laugh while Jensen is thanking the jib staff for doing an amazing job. But when he sees the duo laughing, he loses track of thought and says “and they are all getting married”  dude what ??? How do you go from thanking people who worked on the convention and in .1 seconds you are talking about they are all getting married? Who is? Are you okay? Do you need to sit down? No one gets it, he says he’s kidding and gives Jarpad the microphone, spares a glance at Misha and he seems distraught from that moment on. I wish I could see Misha’s face through all this.

He’s glancing in Misha’s direction again. Man’s got it bad. What?! Oh to be loved by Jensen Ackles. Misha must be a prize, I know he is a mad genius and gorgeous and sexy as hell with that golden skin that looks like it was dipped in gold and honey, big blue eyes that are bluer than the bluest blue, but Jensen wtf man? You are in public.

 I think Jarpad is telling Jensen something maybe it has to do with what he and Misha were talking about earlier?

And it’s over people.

Overall, I agree with the breakup theory. I mean the way these two were acting around each other was very strange. If you watch Misha and Jarpad, they seem okay from the opening ceremony up till the end but Jensen and Misha are just being weird.

The panel was mostly fun but their body language told a story that something was definitely going on between them. 

@littlewolf2703

[cnowy]

The thing that irks me the most about cockles being real debate is a sentence from Vicki’s book “The Threesome handbook”:

“And since my husband isn’t into guys…” page 249

Like don’t get me wrong (I’m a total slut for anything cockles related cause they truly seem married to an unknown mind), but how can that be possible?

Ofc sexuality is fluid and can change if you meet the right person, so it begs the question… is Misha just gay for Jensen or are they only platonic soulmates who are very affectionate with each other and that’s it?

Ik there are shit ton of theories about cockles (break up story, secret romantic trips ect), but I’ve never heard anything about this topic being addressed specifically.

I’m totally aware we will never get the real answer, unless Misha or Jensen decide to share it with us on their own terms.

And maybe part of why I’m so invested in this is possibly my own envious mind. When I see their interactions I often wonder am I gonna be close to someone as they’re are to each other. Like I wanna replicate it. Learning how that happens even if there are no romance involved. I guess my weirdly wired brain lacks knowledge of social skills and deep seated issues with affection don’t help either lol

EDIT.

I wrongly assumed that quote was about Misha, but actually it’s a quote from a woman that Vicki interviewed for her book. My bad.

However, I’m still quite interested in why Vicki only wrote about having threesomes with other women, and did not include writing about men too (I’m talking about her own experience). Ofc she might have alluded to it, but definitely not as detailed accounts as she did with woman.

And let’s not forget the Larry King interview. Misha subtly corrected King and said “with other individuals”. Which points to having relations with both men and women.

Did Vicki deliberately exclude it from the book?

We know Misha at first was very weary of it. And it was originally published in 2007. A year before he got on Supernatural.

Many many questions…

[itsbuffsanta]

Butter

pairing: (kinda)jk x reader

summary: You haven’t had any physical contact with Jungkook for a week. And you are needy.

genre/warnings: established relationship, masturbation, sex toys, mention of oral sex (m receiving)

w.c: 460

a/n: purple haired JK in leather shorts made me do it.

status: complete

You’ve already had four orgasms when the song came on.

You had just added it to your old sex playlist, the one you no longer used since you started dating Jungkook. The two of you spent a whole afternoon making a new one, since he thought it was weird to listen to himself and the other members while you fucked. And you had to agree with him.

But you had kept your original one for alone time and had added their newest song ‘Butter’ on a whim.

You remembered blowing your boyfriend on one of the lunch breaks when they were shooting the music video for it. You couldn’t help yourself, he just looked so hot with his purple hair and the leather shorts. The combination nearly gave you an aneurism, when you first saw him.

‘Easy dick access’ was his only comment when he saw you eye the zipper in the front of the shorts with interest, and you had tested his theory only two hours later. He was right, very easy, you thought while he was fucking your mouth and came down your throat. .

To say you had fond memories associated with that song, was an understatement.

Even if it was now the reason you were in this situation. The guys were doing promotion for their new single around the clock, so you had not really had any quality time with Jungkook for a week. Which left you very horny and needy. And since today he was scheduled to come back home late at night again and probably exhausted after a long day, you decided to take matters into your own hand.

You were fucking yourself with your favourite vibe and could feel yourself getting closer to orgasm number five when the reason for your dry spell started playing. Your legs were shaking and spread wide while you fucked into your pussy, the vibe on its highest setting.

In your mind you were imagining your boyfriend fucking into you instead of the toy. He always fucked you so good, stuffing you full of his thick cockl. He knew exactly what you needed and how to make you come harder than anyone else before him.

You sped up, hitting your clit with every push inside. You could feel your belly starting to contract, warning you that you were about to come. You pushed in one more time and hit your clit perfectly, making you squirt all over the vibe and your hand, bending your back and moaning Jungkook’s name.

Turning the vibe off, you were going to give yourself a minute to come down before you would start another round. There was a noise from the doorway and the familiar voice of your boyfriend started speaking.

‘So, I take it you like the new song.’

[magnificent-winged-beast]

I like this not break up theory.

Unless Misha broke up with Jackles by CAMEO. But as I recall he specifically said he wouldn't do that kind of videos. 🤔

I think Jensen is pining for him more than ever. And Misha is frustrated for being unable to move, while recovering. But as this answer says. They find the way to be TOGETHER.

What breakup theory is everyone talking about? What happened???

As in, a new breakup theory (I saw someone mention that on my last post just now) I honestly have no clue.

And I honestly never believed in the first breakup theory from several years ago. I feel like Jensen and Misha's relationship is definitely more solid now, more defined, but that's only been the case for the last few years. Prior to that, is was a much more free form thing, and it could not be outlined in any common way; so the idea of "breaking up" and getting back together couldn't exist in that space they created, because whatever was happening between them was so elastic and nebulous, that there was no way it could break. It could just thin out or clump together, or stretch and bend. They were working on making it all work with their families and their current lives. They looking for their shape together, and individually. They were seeking definition. Some things worked, some things didn't; but they didn't find fault or anger during the process. It was trial and error. It was pros and cons. I think they found a system that works for them now-- even if it means that they're not always together physically. That doesn't mean they're "broken up" it just means, they're not in the same room.

Remember, we only ever see tiny snippets of their story, but from the snippets we do see, all I ever see is love.

[green-blue-heller]

I was reading one of your old posts; it was your answer to a question about the Cockles breakup timeline. I've seen some suggestions about the cause of the breakup--the most common belief is that Jensen let Misha go because his character had been killed off & Jen seized the chance to make a clean break because he was deeply conflicted about committing to Misha. I want to know what you think of the theory that Misha was fired BECAUSE Jen broke up w/him. Execs wanting to avoid on-set awkwardness?

Hey @farthngdr! Thanks for the question!

He definitely wasn’t fired because Jensen broke up with him. They were still together when he was fired.

SDCC 2011 SPN panel, Jensen was livid and didn’t hold back from letting Sera know it. He was snarky and confrontational.

It actually reminds me a lot of the end of the JIB10 cockles panel where he’s talking to the girl in the Destiel shirt, hypes up the crowd, and then goes “where? Where is it real?”

The SDCC is also the comic con where Misha comes up behind Jensen and gives him the kiss on the back of the neck - I believe.

Plus, from what I’ve seen, Jensen fought tooth and nail against Misha being fired. That he told all the execs they were making a mistake by firing him and killing Cas.

What do you think of that theory?

[chaos0pikachu]

ngl it’s actually high-key frustrating to see a conversation go from discussing fan entitlement, namely invading a public figures privacy and getting upset when they find out *le gasp!* said public figure has a romantic partner that isn’t:

their acting partner

figure skating partner

band member

fucking etc 

but like, I see these convos in BL fandom(s) all the time and like it’s dope to see a majority of ppl being like “hey appreciate the friendship don’t get to deep, don’t invade privacy” but when an inevitable scandal~~~ happens (like with Mile today) the convo always slowly ticks towards xenophobia 

like, sorry but nah bro this isn’t an “Asian industry” problem, this sort of fan entitlement and hyper para-social relationship isn’t something that solely exists in “Asia” by which when someone says Asia what they mean is like, four countries whose content they consume - for BL that’s like what Korea, Japan, Taiwan, and Thailand - so you’re intentionally or unintentionally generalizing an entire continent of varying countries (including those four) who all have their own cultures and histories and indirectly suggesting that the “west” (by which of course we mean Europe and America never like, fucking South American countries or the Caribbean, and even then only certain parts of Europe) is more enlightened

and this is something I’ve seen for years whenever folks talk about “scandals” in East Asian countries - I see this argument a lot for example when American/British fans talk about the K-pop industry - like nah my dude

Ok look lemme break it down: some of the worst examples of fan entitlement and invasions of privacy and harassment I’ve seen has been from from western fans. Like, what happened to Mile? Mid. The shippers and anti-shippers of MewGulf? Basic. BrightWin stans? Higher up the chain but still not as wildin. 

Don’t get me wrong, these stans and shippers are still crossing some huge lines, but like, so far no one’s accused anyone of faking a baby.  

Louis/Harry aka Larry - I’ma just link this 2016 VOX article, and also mention when Harry and Olivia Wilde were caught making out on a boat the meltdowns on Twitter were huge 

Benedict Cumberbatch - Again, just gonna link this article about how fans of Benedict believe his wife faked their child, and is actually a criminal; I once read a fan say she was secretly a member of the yakuza and a meth addict who was trapping Benedict in a loveless marriage

Lord of the Rings - Aka the birth place of TinHatting, Elijah Wood was once stalked by a fan to a club to “prove” he was going to a gay club as part of a conspiracy theory that he was in a secret relationship with his costar Dominic Monaghan

Fucking Supernatural, all of it, but mainly J2 (Jared/Jensen) and Cockles (Misha/Jensen) - Here’s a 2015 article about J2 and it has all the greatest hits, their wives are breads, their kids are fake, the network won’t let them be together, etc etc 

There’s a lot of other examples I could give: Robert Patterson/Kristen Stewart, Kerry Washington/Tony Goldwyn, Caitriona Balfe/Sam Heughan and how the women Timothee Chalamet & Tom Hiddles (mainly during his peak tumblr popularity not so much now) were or are with often get harassed as well by their fans. 

The last couple is from the show Outlander and the conspiracy that Sam was the ~~real~~ father of Caitriona’s baby got to her ears and the harassment of her husband got so bad she talked about it here. Fans also “theorized” that Kerry Washington’s baby wasn’t actually her husbands but her costars, Tony Goldwyn, b/c they were “obviously” having a secret relationship. 

My point is, this type of fan entitlement, obsessive shipping, and hyper para-social relationship isn’t something that exists just in the BL industry, or in Asian entertainment industries. I think we as fans can have discussions about the boundary between fans and public figures, respecting an entertainers privacy, and separating them from their acting roles without diving into potentially xenophobic takes about Asian entertainment industries. 

Its not about which country is “worse” it’s about the flatline fact this behavior is harmful, damaging and wrong. It’s something we shouldn’t engage in period. 

anyway elmo out, new kinnporsche and cutie pie episodes in 3 days, drink water, eat some rice and get some air