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This is who TERFs are (gender critical is the rebrand of TERF)
Vile misogynists, anti-feminists, rape-apologists, perpetuators of patriarchy and rape culture. They'll protect and defend rapists as long as they are even remotely anti-trans
"Believe women" is the bare minimum of feminism. And even that TERFs can't do. I hope at least some fringe cases open their eyes to what a hate movement it is, and leave.
#terf#radfem#gender critical#radblr#look at the fucking shit you're doing you cowards#transphobia#anti-feminism#misogyny#cn rape#terfs are literally the people asking rape victims what they were wearing#Youtube
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6B4T
Lately there has been talk about 4B and so I wanted to bring up 6B4T which grew from the South Korean 4B movement, and specially the 6B4T movement as it is practiced by our Chinese sisters. Before that however differences between the both are as followed:
4B
No sex with men
No giving birth
No dating men
No marriage with men
6B4T
Includes the original commandments of 4B and adds the following:
Don’t buy products from misogynistic brands
Support single women/women that have chosen to be celibate
Reject the corset (rejecting toxic beauty standards)
Reject idol culture (as in male-worship and idolization of entertainment figures this ALSO includes rejecting idol culture for female kpop idols/entertainers)
Reject otaku culture (rejecting misogynistic anime culture)
Reject religion
(**You may see 6B4T referred to as 10bt to avoid censorship as CN social media sites are heavily monitored by government censors, even outside of CN social media CN sisters will still refer to it as 10bt because 6b + 4t = 10bt)
Now that there's a basic understanding... I wanted to talk about some of the differences that the CN 6B4T movement has compared to what I usually encounter in English speaking radfem circles. Please note that this is my own experience and as with any political movement there can a myriad of women that agree and disagree (except on the 6B4T principles as a whole, those are rock solid for them haha.)
I was first aware of this movement around 2020 and have been following women on twitter/x since then that follow these beliefs. All of this has been gathered from tweets by 6B4T users on twitter/x + interactions with them. I am not a CN speaker and have used translation apps to piece together details on the 6B4T movement and have cross referenced this with some of the writings I can find in English about this and the conversations that I have had with some of the 10bt sisters that were willing to interact with me.
I do not feel comfortable just singling out specific accounts for people to look up on twitter but anyone that wants to do their own research can search the keywords on twitter 6B4T or 10bt and go under the "People" filter to populate accounts of CN women that have 6B4T and/or 10bt in their bio.
One thing that I want to talk about right away - the term donkey. It will come up quite often when you search 10bt accounts and is used to describe women that are perpetuating patriarchy because they "carry the patriarchy without protest and allow themselves to be exploited." (This includes married women.) 10bt sisters DO NOT have an emphasis on educating women that perpetuate patriarchy. You can find sayings such as:
"Feminism is like being given a weapon to support yourself with, do not use it to commit suicide by having a complex of saving donkeys"
“Don't do donkey work for donkeys".
“Don’t get derailed by women support women, leave the donkeys alone.”
Which leads me to the next point - 10bt sisters are for empowering women independently. There is obvious acknowledgement of bonds and relationships between women but the general feeling is more to focus on the individual self, connections are based solely on shared interests and can be let go of as needed. (I have also seen discussions of letting go of romantic ties not just for straight sisters but for lesbian sisters as well.) Sentiments such as "focusing on oneself is a foundation for a happy life" "All thoughts and ideologies cannot be separated from down to earth efforts and dedication" are plenty. Really a focus away from "altruistic" causes so to speak
And on that note: anti veganism. 10bt sisters in general are adamant that 6B4T principles should only include tackling patriarchy and not have other causes added to it. Anti veganism sentiment also seems to stem from certain aspects in CN culture of serving smaller portions to young girls and discouraging them to eat meat as opposed to men. The focus on improving one's self from before also shows up here: "Women need strength to overthrow patriarchy, only then should we focus on improving the lives of animals."
Some 10bt sisters are also very open about criticism and believe women that openly identify with the 10bt movement should be prepared to have their posts critiqued, and while some will debate this... one of the things that is absolutely non negotiable is that actions MUST back up words. There’s lots of debates that go on in the 10bt movement but the bare minimum is that if you follow 6B4T then you must follow its core beliefs otherwise what are you here for? There is a huge disdain for those that say they belong to this movement but don’t follow its beliefs.
With that being said, how do the 10bt sisters feel about 4B taking off in the states? Well…
“4B grew into 6B4T and they only dared to do half of the movement? It’s disappointing.”
“At this point in time, it is crazy to deliberately go back and start from 4B. You have someone’s shoulder to stand on but you won’t take it.”
“4B: No marriage, no giving birth , no sex, no dating. Doesn't that mean they are still serving as donkeys: supporting idols and otaku, believing in religion, using pornographic content, and consuming misogynistic brands... It really makes one recognize by a glance what stupid things they are still doing.”
“I don't understand how this kind of castration of the feminist movement came about.”
Is some of the general consensus on twitter/x.
Two more things I will add here before I wrap this up:
I have seen a post in English about other principles to follow such as 5B, 7B or 8B. I am not aware of what these principles are and could not find a CN source to confirm this so if 5B, 7B and 8B do exist, I do not believe it originated from the CN movement.
There is also the concept of icing men out aka if a man comments on your social media posts immediately delete the comment EVEN if it is a comment in agreement. For this while I also could not find a specific CN source for the 10bt sisters, it feels like it is just natural to not interact with men. I have yet to see debates on whether someone can be part of 10bt and still have a boyfriend, husband, etc since the answer will always be a resounding NO. (And on this note… if you are curious about attitudes towards male family members.. rejection of filial piety is something that is very agreed upon. I would recommend first learning what filial piety entails in CN culture as whole if there is curiosity about this.)
I will wrap this up with one of my favorite concepts I have encountered from our 10bt sisters:
“When one woman keeps house*: five women are trapped: herself, daughter, mother, sister-in-law, and female coworkers”
[*keeps house meaning - “when one woman marries…”]
If there are sisters out here who are involved with this or have more info to add please feel free to do so! Also would love to get in touch with any that know more on the CN 10bt movement.
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preface //i know half of what im saying has been said before. south korean women being subjected to the deepfake & spycam crimes is awful & clearly something should be done about it (oh hey the offenders are getting arrested)
that something to be done isnt stand around and protest in terms of ideals, a) it doesnt do anything b) 'what an awful thing to say' why do I say that? because you have to look at results. metoo was visible & technically big but did it pull any repeat offenders off of their social standings? what happens when you're not a perfect victim? just look at how half of the metoo people turned on amber heard. victims are perfect victims in the realm of ideals but this is reality. protests at least should have a demand for a specific concrete action if not policy
this has been said by many other people but these kinds of peaceful protests work when there's teeth behind it. there is no material threat if their demands are not taken seriously; at least it's not being made front & center. if you advertise it as an angry parade then thats what youre getting in terms of publicity and turnout
also the men who were doing this are getting caught. i dont see any mention of that or demands for serious punishments (in the case that sk law lets them off easy for example if the men claim mental illness etc #misogyny/patriarchy/etc) in ⬇️
cn feminists in jp, publishing in english, rallying infront of sk embassy in jp; reposted to tumblr being passed around by radfem blogs. their publicity even mentions metoo, but do they just want a repeat of noise & no real consequences? need I say more
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i seriously believe that more male-partnered radfems would feel more "comfortable" if more lesbians/febfems/celibate het radfems on here would stop supporting or voicing any kind of support for the radfems of SK/CN/TW as radfems from those countries do not think male-partnered women are feminists and think they are only helping uplift the patriarchy. For some reason, with the new year, a lot of radfems from those countries have been posting on here in their own languages mostly to others who also speak their language, when you translate their posts, a lot of them are the type of woman who would 100% be outcasted by radblr for their misogyny.
You reblogged a post from pierriq who literally has a post saying women who don't move forward to 6b aren't feminists and they can't live without dick and need to find freedom. pierriq has also reblogged from another Taiwanese radfem who has a post saying she doesn't have any solidarity with gay men nor any sympathy for them, thinks gay men who use surrogacy should die - which is blatant homophobia and dividing the community helps no one. Western radical feminism and Asian radical feminism are two completely different ideals and do not mix at all, asian radfems are primarily het women who think other women who don't engage in 4b/6b aren't feminists and do not claim them, call them names and blame them for lack of progress, this kind of behavior isn't acceptable or compatible with western radical feminism and only further alienates osa women, especially ones who are male-partnered.
tl;dr stop supporting radfems from SK/CN/TW if you're against women speaking badly about male-partnered women, those women are incredibly misogynistic and their beliefs are not compatible with the beliefs of western feminists.
I seriously believe that more male-partnered radfems would feel more "comfortable" if more lesbians/febfems/celibate het radfems on here would stop supporting or voicing any kind of support for the radfems of SK/CN/TW as radfems from those countries do not think male-partnered women are feminists and think they are only helping uplift the patriarchy. For some reason, with the new year, a lot of radfems from those countries have been posting on here in their own languages mostly to others who also speak their language, when you translate their posts, a lot of them are the type of woman who would 100% be outcasted by radblr for their misogyny. I've read and followed many radfems from asia in the past on twitter, and they are all like this as in their minds, this is what radical feminism is.
You reblogged a post from pierriq who literally has a post saying women who don't move forward to 6b aren't feminists and they can't live without dick and need to find freedom. pierriq has also reblogged from another Taiwanese radfem who has a post saying she doesn't have any solidarity with gay men nor any sympathy for them, thinks gay men who use surrogacy should die - which is blatant homophobia and dividing the community helps no one.
Western radical feminism and Asian radical feminism are two completely different ideals and do not mix at all, asian radfems are primarily het women who think other women who don't engage in 4b/6b aren't feminists and do not claim them, call them names and blame them for lack of progress, this kind of behavior isn't acceptable or compatible with western radical feminism and only further alienates osa women, especially ones who are male-partnered.
tl;dr radfems who say they are against women speaking badly about male-partnered women stop supporting or voicing encouragement for radfems from SK/CN/TW, those women are incredibly misogynistic and their beliefs are not compatible with the beliefs of western feminists.
this just sounds racist honestly. sorry but western radfems are not somehow better bc they’re less radical and eastern ones aren’t worst bc they are more for separatism and more radical action 😭
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CN RAPE
There is this whole movement in radfem/terf circles, claiming only those with a penis can ever be rapists. I think it started in the UK, because of how the law there is written (if you think laws and morality are the same thing, you’re wrong and not a feminist, but I digress), but now it’s everywhere, because they hate men, and trans people, just that much.
I’ve personally talked to some who literally say that EVERY person with a penis is a potential rapist, BECAUSE they have a penis. They don’t (want to) understand that there is WAY more to being a potential rapist than a body part. But no, they say, if someone has a penis, they have the equipment, and that’s potential. I did ask them if they, too, were potential rapists then, since they have fingers and own brooms and shit. No answer, of course.
radfems/terfs love to claim only men rape, and that women CAN’T be rapists. And they fucking hurt victims of rape doing this. radfems/terfs are predators and attackers, through and through. They don’t care for victims, ever. They just HATE.
Oh, and I’m pretty sure I know just what type of “groomer” OP is referring to. And it’s not the real kind.
the fact that men believe feminism (or anything feminist-esque) is about being anti-man (like men are such neutral, benevolent, benign creatures) tells me all i need to know about who men are
if you're mad at feminism for shedding light on rapists, domestic violence, pedophiles, porn-head predators, groomers, autogynephiles, sex slavery and human trafficking, the exploitation of women and girls, fgm, medical malpractice against women and girls, religious burnings, torture of females, femicide . . . all of which NO OTHER MOVEMENT HAS DONE ON NEARLY THE SAME SCALE BTW . . .
guess what that makes you?
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So wait, now that the croaker is friends with milton officially, do we start hating milton aswell?
no way miilton2 cool n he2 never di2played weiird radfem e2k men r eviil women cn do no wrong braiinworm2 liike harlecroak ha2 he2 never betrayed a movement he created liike harlecroak n they’’re 2 niice even iif they’’ve never red home2tuck
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CN TERFs, radfems, transmisia, genitals, sex
What I find so sad about rafems is the fact that they actually have a point, but then ... decent into TERF-dom. Because yes, feminism has to be radical, is has to be loud and aggressive to give a voice to the marginalized people around the globe. We need a loud, unmistakable feminism. But we need it in the form of intersectional feminism and not whatever shit radfems are doing.
I make a bold assumption: Most radfems are white cis women, and those are among the most privileged people, literally ony surpassed by white cis men. You have to understand that privilege is not a binary, you are not either privileged or marginalized. Reality is that you can be privileged in one aspect (i.e. skin colour) and marginalized in another (i.e. gender) and everything in between.
Trans women are women but at the same time get denied privileges cis women have precisely because of TERFs. They demonise trans women, frame them as predators and stealing rooms for women. But where do belong trans women then if not into rooms meant for women?* TERFs claim, that every man now can clam he’s a women and invade saferooms for women, while at the same time ignore statistics that proof that trans women are also vicitms of male violence as other groups. And who says cis women can’t be perpetrators themselves? Women are not inherently less violent than men, two X chromosomes doesn’t make you magically a peaceful creature.
And then there are all the other genderqueer people out there who also get ridiculed by TERFs. I got called ugly simply because I’m nonbinary. I got called woman, after I said I’m nb, which is as violent as being slapped in the face. Assholes insisted that I’m mentally ill (nicely said, they used different words) because I use neo pronouns. Some people even got as far as saying that no one wants to see my mico penis and that was the point where I simply laughed out loud. Because c’mon, how lost do you have to be to put that in my mentions simply because I have neo pronouns in my bio???
TERFs are obsessed with genitals, but claim that trans people are perpetrators violating safe rooms. Who is the creep here? Not me, that’s for sure.
TERFs shout out that no one want to sleep with trans people because *insert a lot of nasty shit here*, but it has never occured to them, that trans people also don’t want to sleep with them simply because they are very nasty persons. I at least would never sleep with a person I detest. Would you?
TERFs ignore science. TERFs ignore that it’s long prooved that there aren’t only XX and XY chromosomes. TERFs ignore anything that doesn’t fit in their narrow world view and demonise it without being provoced. Some people simply want to exist and they attack them for simply existing. Isn’t that utterly disgusting?
TL;DR: Radical feminism isn’t per se bad, because we need loud feminism. But we need it in the form of intersectional feminism. But then TERFs happened and ruined everything.
*And where belong other genderqueer people? My German bubble therefore uses FLINTA for safe rooms of any kind. F(Frauen, women), L(esbians), I(nter), N(onbinary), T(rans), A(gender). I haven’t seen a similar acronym in English speaking corners.
#in case you're a terf reading this: I shoot on sight#trans#nonbinary#genderqueer#feminism#radical feminism#intersectional feminism#cn terfs#cn radfems
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A White Knight (literally a white man) just told me he knows exactly 0 homophobic radfems, and all the radfems are flocking to like the Tweet. After he told someone else that radfems are "just women who don't need a man".
I on the other hand have never talked to a radfem that wasn't on some level homophobic. But if it doesn't affect you, and doesn't interest you, you won't notice it, of course.
Ridiculous.
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TERF arguments against trans women: disgusting perverts, literally all of them rape women
TERF arguments against trans men: poor little things that feel the need to pretend to be men to escape misogyny :’(
It’s painfully obvious they’re only perpetuating negative gender stereotypes in the name of feminism to prove their own bs point. Everyone assigned male is automatically a violent pervert and everyone assigned female is automatically weak? Got it.
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May I introduce you to Shinigami Eye?
CN for TERFs and anti trans talk in the following, mention of rasism, JK Rowling
Shinigami Eye is a little browser extention that makes your social media experience much saver, especially when you’re trans and/or genderqueer. The tool marks accounts as trans-friendly or anti-trans and is extremely powerfull when it comes to detecting TERFs and radfems. Sometimes I see a harmless post on my dash that has nothing to do with any topic gender related. But then one person is marked red. Like this:
it usualy doesn’t take long to unveil a TERFs and it was again true in this case as well. Just click on the profile and you find stuff like this:
Or this:
The last one is especially funny because it’s in reaction to what happened recently to that disgusting Rowling terf. She whined that she got doxxed by trans right activists. Her villa is a public tourist attraction you can find on google maps .............. After that Rowling threw the twitter handles of said activists to her 14 million followes. She’s not throwing knives, she’s handling out 14 million knives, and that is much, much wores.
I hate Rowling will all my heart and wish her all the bad in this world.
Okay, but that’s not the point here. All I want to say is, that terfs will always defend terfs and will flock together. Shinigami Eye marked them all. From the initial post I would have never thought that this person could be a Terf. She is. Shinigami Eyes helps you to unveil them with one look.
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TERFs: Violence against trans women is no concern of us!!!!! We are only concerned by the struggle "real" women face!
But like...
If you don't care about how the patriarchy affects people of all genders, how are you planning to change things?
Homophobia, lesbophobia, transphobia (towards men, women and nonbinary folks) - these are ALL expressions of an absurdly toxic idea about who has to fit what box and how to behave in that box based on their genitalia.
(Overly simplified. Race adds a whole other layer to it my white ass is seriously not qualified to talk about.)
So if you dictate who can be who and how they are allowed to express that... how is this going against the current system?
(CN: Transphobic, acephobic, islamophobic shit RadFems spout
Good grief if a Muslim.woman decides to wear a hijab. Oh no, an asexual woman! How dare she not fight the feminist fight! Oh, you're nonbinary or a trans man. Yes, sure, nice attempt at sneaking past the glass ceiling, traitor. No. No YOU are not a woman, you are an perverted monster.)
How do you plan on smashing the current system, let alone building something new, if you insist on splintering off?
(Really, I don't get TERFs. I mean... on an intellectual level I think I can map their reasoning but... once I managed that I only can quote Kronk.
#intersectional feminism#inclusive feminism#feminism#queer rights#trans rights are human rights#lgbtq
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[tags via liveisbutalie]
One look at my profile would have proved you wrong, buddy. TERFs are so obsessed with dick they think all trans people were born with them ig.
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How much radfems do you personally know in Korea? What do people tell you when they know you're a radfem?
ok so like just first off i live in america? idk why ppl assume that asians don't...exist in other places like. yes my family is from korea, yes i am korean. but that doesn't make me Korean Authority 101 and fwiw i wouldn't want to live in korea for a multitude of reasons so i can't answer your question the way you probably want,,
also ive gotten DMs from ppl with weird questions like this as if even if i lived in korea i'm somehow like, this mouthpiece for the culture or as if koreans are some alien species like? i already have to deal with ppl assuming i don't speak english, that i'm not from here, when i go outside fdssgdgds like idk how to impress upon you that it's super highkey annoying to get the online equivalent of ppl saying 'oh! ann yung horse say yo' to me at work, on my blog,,, pls if this is how u guys interact with poc online, don't do this offline. also koreans aren’t like what you see in kpop, kdramas, etc. i have encountered a weird and surprising amt of ppl operating on this assumption and i just. screams. koreans aren’t a monolith, korean culture is heavily patriarchal and this has an impact on the way misogyny is inflicted upon kr women but it’s the minutiae that’s distinct and unique, kr women face (generally) remarkably similar issues to jp women, sea women, white women, hispanic women, etc. such as male violence, restriction of reproductive rights, religiously motivated misogyny (fsr ppl don’t seem to know a lot of koreans, esp korean americans, are at least passively religious? i think they get this assumption bc a lot of cn aren’t, and ime a lot of jp aren’t), sexual assault/harassment, pay gaps, familial issues like second shift, etc. this isn’t to say koreans don’t have unique cultural issues — beauty culture is a big one ime — but rather that there are a lot more similarities than differences when it comes to misogyny across the world. addressing this intersectionally doesn’t mean othering woc or their cultures, imho, but rather recognizing the differences that do exist. idk if this makes sense..
all that said i put my exp under the cut, i hope it helps!
my exp is that most younger koreans, esp korean americans, i know are libfems if they are feminists (which isn't really common at all ime, at most it's younger women who buy into libfem beliefs but wouldn't go as far as calling themselves feminist. the ones who do are very much edgy art student socjus types and i've only met them on my college campus lol). i have never ever met any older korean feminist here, and older koreans (men and women) tend to be pretty regressive/conservative in general. i can't count how many times i've been told off, directly or indirectly, by older koreans for how i talk, dress, groom myself, not having a bf/husband, and so on. younger koreans aren't much better, even the 'woke' ones, just the verbage changes.
interacting w/ korean relatives living in or visiting SK, radical feminism is the feminism of choice there but it is not by any means a "normal". feminism, even libfem, is not looked upon highly and being openly feminist is not normal or 'cool' outside of western facing circles and even then you'll probably get backlash from other koreans (usually men) for it. when i talk with my korean friends, fob or koream, about women's issues a lot of the time they might agree on certain things or join in on the ‘men suck!!1!!1′ venting, but once the topic veers towards feminism they're usually pretty withdrawn on it. i think it's interesting that doesn't seem to really change.
the only woman i know who is even vaguely feminist or accepting of me being feminist, let alone a radfem, is my mom surprisingly. maybe bc she's from busan lol. but she's very much unusual for a korean woman and while not feminist let alone radfem, refuses to date or marry men ever again (so ig she's an unintentional separatist queen? ..i'm joking gsdgds) and agrees with me on a lot, but not all, feminist topics like abortion and reproductive rights, women's rights in the workplace, domestic violence (which she/we were victims of, so ofc), etc. even lgb rights she's warmed up to quite a bit since i was a teen. but she is literally the only one, even my halmoni and aunties — who had abusive relationships with men! — think/thought feminism was unnecessary or even useless, despite being strong women in their own right.
what is interesting imo is that trans issues are a little complicated in sk. there are notable trans celebrities, but i’ve only known them to be hsts mtfs. when i came out as a tif, the logical conclusion was i was a super butch who was so gay i wanted to be a man to be ‘normal’ (i mean...not wrong in a way?) and this is the general perception a lot of koreans have of trans ppl. and while most are probably going to be polite about it, i don’t know any koreans, even younger ones, who are super pro trans rights or anything. i’ve met only one korean trans person who was a transbian mtf, but dozens of white trans ppl. that said i do find it interesting koreans seem to at least turn a blind eye to hsts mtfs but there’s still a lot of bristling about homosexuality. again this isn’t that dissimilar to how it is with other cultures, i guess, but it is interesting.
last disclaimer that this is my exp and maybe other koreans have different experiences? feminist movements seem to be particularly strong in unis/college campuses and ive never been to a korean college/uni. maybe there is a stronger radfem presence there? but the only big radfem groups i know of operate mostly online (like WOMAD), much like in the west. imo radfem is just too radical to really make it mainstream, regardless of the culture.
this ended up super long sorry 😩
#long post#mine#sorry if i sound rly miffed i am running on low sleep and havent eaten more than a croissant today#i am on a hair trigger
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(Not responding on the post because not sure asker wants to see this and I’m not very up to rephrasing, and also I haven’t read all of it at the moment).
(cn for post; cis person talking about trans-relevant things. cn for link; radfem stuff is brought up.
Pretty like ‘I am saying things out of my head’ type.)
https://theunitofcaring.tumblr.com/post/168087435016/hi-for-a-long-time-i-basically-sided-with-trans (um, @theunitofcaring ?)
So I don’t know if this is going to be mentioned in the post because as noted, so very sorry if it already was said, but,
So a huge thing for me with this is -
So, ok, let’s say person from 2300-with-no-sexism (very yay) and-no-gender-availability (eep) shows up, and she looks at gender things here, and specifically the woman part for her, (not sexism, not gender roles, those are bad, but like, the ‘what you can know yourself to be’ and potentially ‘things you can want relevantly to that’ (like social acknowledgement, or representation, or (which to be clear, often we *don’t* have available well, because we also have sexism etc which sucks. but))). And she’s like - oh, wow, yes, I want this, this is me, this is a thing I never knew I was missing but I was, and I want it, I need it’. (Or, like, various other forms of this, those aren’t less valid I’m just worse at having words etc for them).
Then - I want to give that to her! It sucks that she couldn’t have it before and to whatever extent is possible I want her to be able to have it now, and I think she very gets to!
And like - if she came from 2300 with a vagina and estrogen-type stuff and etc, then I want to give her that and think she gets to have it. And if she came from 2300 as a landwalking octopus-like being, I want to give her that and think she gets to have it, just as much. And if she came from 2300 with a penis and testosterone-type stuff and etc - I want to give her that and think she gets to have it, just as much! Because like, that’s not what determines it for me at all, I want her to be able to have it because she couldn’t before and that sucks and now maybe she can and in as much as it might be possible she should *be able to have that*. And like, obviously there might be problems or obstacles or tradeoff stuff to deal with, but I want to deal with them very much with this ‘she should be able to have that, she gets to have that’ there.
And, well, likewise of course I want people from our time and etc to have that too, and very much think they absolutely get to etc.
(And like, don’t tend to have great feeling about people who not only like, don’t care about that/are actively in the way of it, but like, additionally kind of do that at me too, in some sense (er, not the same thing or anywhere near, but) and, also like, just erase and get gaslightly over *that being an experience that exists or can exist to begin with*. So, well.)
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TERFs claim to fight for trans men as well. So, are they suddenly back off from their ideology, that all men are rapists and oppressors? Awesome! No? Oh.
Right. Of course they don't because they beliefe that you being born with a penis makes you inherently violent. That's why they hate trans women so much. TERF rhethorics breaks down to the idea that penetrating someone with a penis is rapy, which is of course not true. This is pure misandry and transmisogyny.
TERFs claiming that they fight for trans men as well is nothing more than misgendering. Because they see trans men and mspecs as women and not as the gender they truly are. They reduce those people to their agab.
Don't do that. Never. Referring to someone's agab is extremely rude at best and violent. It may be relevant in very few contexts and only if the person themselves bring up their agab.
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Oh My Fucking God could u guys calm down for literally three seconds, NO ONE IS SAYING LEAVE YOUR BF u can keep ur precious bf u cn even talk about him on tumblr! I'm original anon, what I was actually saying was people like allm0ther and Oreosomething who literally. Never. Take. A.Break. like stfu about him for two seconds please!! And before u say unfollow I have, I just wish radfem women would see that maybe radfem tumblr isn't the place to worship your Nigel? -someone who loves their Nigel
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