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Great interview segment with Yungblud talking about queerbaiting, and being accused of queerbaiting as a LGBTQ+ person simply expressing himself as LGBTQ+.
#yungblud#queerbaiting#queer baiting#for new larries#closeted queer people are still queer#and can express their queerness however they like#how fucking dare you#@matty healy needs to listen to yungblud
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Iruma Ficlet: Meme
The Netherworld has an Internet, websites, social media, etc.
Eventually, as high schools do, Bablys becomes riddled with the equivalent of the worm meme:
Would you love me if I was a human?
Iruma… does not participate.
He listens, closely. He watches when others ask it, watches the shape of the word ‘human’ around their lips and the face they make with it. He watches the faces of the responders and memorizes their answers. Despite himself, he ends up making mental lists— lists titled maybe okay (laughter/maybe/I’d find a safe place for you/we can be humans together),
and maybe not (no/how would loving a human even work??/ew gross),
and definitely not.
(Sure I’d love you… for dinner!)
Iruma does his best not to let it all bother him, the questions, or the reactions, or the places various classmates and teachers have on his new lists.
He fails.
Iruma does not ask the question. Of anyone.
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Someone scrapes together enough nerve to ask Balam-sensei in the middle of Iruma’s class. The teacher freezes.
Someone else takes the moment to cut across that Balam-sensei would eat them and write research on what they tasted like; Balam goes pale.
A third demon says Balam-sensei wouldn’t eat them, since it’d be like eating an endangered species. He’d probably keep them in a jar like a pet. Balam-sensei’s hands begin to shake.
He finally interrupts. And doesn’t look at Iruma. “I’d keep you safe,” he says. “I’d fight my hardest to keep you safe. Of course. You are my students.”
Balam-sensei gets teased by the class and his coworkers for how soft he is for the rest of the week. The next time they have tea, Iruma doesn’t even give a cursory squirm about the hug, and just squeezes back tighter.
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Ameri does not participate. She serves anyone who does, in her hearing range, a debilitating axe-kick to the chest.
(Those who respond a… certain way receive kicks to the throat.)
People admire her dedication to spending school time on productive tasks and not foolish games.
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Clara asks Iruma.
Iruma freezes, skin gone pale, hands gone shaky. He can feel his internal defensive beast starting to rise, but he squashes it.
Azz starts to scold her for wasting Iruma-sama’s time on foolish games (he was one of those who admired Ameri’s response), but Iruma doesn’t listen to him. Can’t.
Iruma takes Clara’s hands, gentle, still shaking. “Yes,” he says, immediately, fervently, looking her directly in the eye and all but pushing what he can’t say through his gaze and into her mind. “I’d love you, and Azz, no matter what you were, or what I am, or where we are. There isn’t anything that can change that. Ever.”
#wtdsik#m!ik#good afternoon I was possessed by a plot bunny at work#Suzuki Iruma#Azazel Ameri#Balam Shichirou#Asmodeus Alice#Valac Clara#love trio#iruma kun#thinking about how scared Iruma must still be every day#also the parallels to being queer and closeted and terrified??#people need to catch up with that because I’m not seeing a lotta recognition for it
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right so the conspiracy segment today was nothing new which is cool because I'm still hung up on the tour bus one. it's everything. it's so emotional because they were so deep in the closet but so bad at being in the closet but it's not their fault obviously and that's a whole heartbreaking thing. its hilarious because lying online is the funniest thing ever and it only gets funnier the less reason you have to do so. they didn't have to deny so hard because heteronormativity is a hell of a drug, I myself had people think I'm straight after literally coming out to them. but also they did have to because being in the closet while being Looked At is also one hell of a drug tbh. but also regardless I'm so glad for these moments in the "we're all older and chiller and gayer now so it's ok to look back with healed fondness at the freakouts" like do you guys get meeeeee
#titspoilers#dan and phil#phan#.kas#i mean the heteronormativity is a whole thing because yes straight people can be so oblivious its unfathomable#but to a large extent they were being looked at by queer people#queer people at varying levels of being closeted as well#which can make you both less or more oblivious i think#(whats the math on this)#but given that people still try to say theyre just buddies. i think the phrasing still applies#bruh i would love to study this whole thing#not to be parasocial but some of this is SO similar to like having a fellow closeted friend back in the day and youre both on the#other side of it now and you look back at those older times like wow that was something huh#“you know what i mean” i say as i spit incoherent nonsense
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my for some reason unpopular opinion is that it's boring when Fitz remains unhinged levels of self-deluded and closeted actually. Why does he have to be doctor who's answer to dean winchester, huh? why would this man in his mid-thirties who has spent at least a decade traveling in time and space still have weird insane hangups about being attracted to dudes? why does that need to be the thing about the text that we all collectively think is worth taking at face value? it's boring and fucking depressing and honestly doesn't make sense when the future of humanity in doctor who is that bisexuality is the cultural default and completely unremarkable.
#like geez I don't think that making it to thirty+ years old and still being afraid and filled with self-hatred is funny actually#eighth doctor adventures#eighth doctor#fitz kreiner#megan whines into the empty abyss of cyberspace#it's also weird because this definitely wasn't the attitude in fandom ten years ago#my suspicion is that Steve Cole's confirmation that Fitz was always meant to be bi made people start taking the text literally#in a way folks didn't before when slash shipping culture was just used to reading against a text as a default#like I vaguely recall a post going around shortly after that was confirmed in 2019#that brought up how Fitz being canonically bi meant that all his weird hangups couldn't be handwaved away now#because if fandom made him bi against canon then you could just ignore his weirder no homo moments#but if he was intentionally written as bi then he was also intentionally written as deeply closeted#and like. that's true. but also you can just do whatever the fuck you want with canon no matter what#and also like#sure many of the writers were writing him as queer intentionally#but like the writing in the EDAs is so inconsistent of course some people are going to write weird no homo crap#because those writers weren't comfortable with queerness even if Cole's intent was that Fitz was bi#like The Gallifrey Chronicles's whole thing with Fitz and Trix is one long lance parkin no homo moment#does that really matter more than textual evidence that he is attracted to men and knows this about himself?#like I just don't know how you reconcile 'Fitz will bend over backwards to pretend he's straight' with#'a consideration of his chances of [...] getting laid by the Doctor'#or for that matter 'with the Doctor it's the real thing'#or the really really heavy implication that he and Sasha had a one night stand in History 101#or that he and George went on a date in Camera Obscura which led to Fitz being invited on the Siberia expedition in the first place#and again and I can't emphasize this enough: why is this the thing about 'canon' that is so worth keeping?#why is Fitz being depressing levels of in denial more fun than him being openly bi?#destielification of Eight/Fitz smh
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at this point if a post implies s1 izzy was homophobic in any way its lost me. we have moved past the need for homophobic + gay izzy interpretations
#i mean i never liked them lol#nothing izzy did read as homophobic to me- at worst it was a guy who was very aware of what being outwardly queer in their lives could mean#and thought hiding it was a good option and that others should do the same#most of the time he just wanted people to do their fucking jobs#and he had issues with ed/stede obviously but again. i dont think it was the gay bit he was having issues with there#hes just a guy whos had to live closeted all his life and doesn't know what to fucking do around all these people who are so open about it#so reckless about it; don't you know its dangerous?#nyxtalks#ofmd#izzy hands#israel hands#it is too early to be having these thoughts but still. its a bad faith interpretation to me now
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i've been thinking about lesbian scott summers because the other day i made a jeanscott drawing where scott was a girl and like. how would it affect her, as a character, and how would it affect her relationship with other people (namely jean)?
scott's already canonically 'nervous' when it comes to his attraction to women. he's always like, "is this safe? it's not, it's not safe" until actively proven otherwise and EVEN THEN he's still like that (whyyy), and sure it might be because of his deadly eyes but add the lesbian into it. this shit takes place in the 60s, 70s, add the lesbian into it
#there is something about how society shapes people and how people shape society that is so hard to correctly show in media#in ways that aren't ooc. uncanny x-men begins in the 60s. bobby has been in the closet since the 60s#they already struggle because of how much the world hates mutants. add the fucking lesbian into it#there is something about the idea of xavier having repressed bobby's sexuality or smth like that because the ppl would hate them more#if they were queer. that i think would be fun to add into the jeanscott (+ xavier and perhaps bobby) dynamic#nothing can keep those two apart. so even if their sexuality was repressed. they still wouldn't be apart yk what i'm saying??#but.... society.......#smth about--#they can't help the fact that they're mutants so maybe queer people can't help the fact that they're queer#but it's the 60s#and they're lesbians#in the 60s#their love would still be the same i believe#but the way they might act upon it. the nature of their relationship. how much they show to the public. etc#all of that would change#the thing is. how it would change#the way society views people and the way people view society can affect how they show themselves to others#i'm not explaining myself correctly but please jst think about it#lesbian jeanscott... my beloved...#marvel comics#x-men comics#jeanscott#scott summers#jean grey#and GOD this isn't even talking about how the writers would. write them yk#like if scott was a girl we can know for a fact that they would not have been canon back then#so we can at least assume they wouldn't be together#until very recently#man this is so complicated#avis' post
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So funny how the venn diagram of people who clutch pearls over swearing and the people who feel like they get a say in how I behave on my own channel is a circle.
#Youtube#'maybe if a random stranger reprimands her she'll see the error of her ungodly ways'#What do these people think is going to happen#Also hi I'm very much a Queer#If I gave a single shit about how some people view my conduct I'd still be in the closet
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ramblings on Li Ming (and Heart) and homosexuality
moonlight chicken has so many things to offer in terms of technical beauty and interesting themes but what i cannot stop thinking about is the different ways they approach homosexuality in the story.
we have Wen who has a rainbow flag on his desk and pictures of him and Alan on the wall. Wen, who openly flirts with Jim and has no qualms talking openly about his one night stand. Wen, whose step father knows about his sexuality and is close enough with him to discuss his love life.
Kaipa we don’t know too much about. But his mom knows and is supportive and some of the vendors and the chicken family seem to know. But if anyone was questioning in what reality this show is set with all the class discussion and corona featuring, his part of the story shows that homophobia exists and he is worried about how he fits in with his own family, the expectations of his mother and possible the awareness that he makes the family he has “different”.
Jim is arguably even more visibly gay than Wen in terms of what we see throughout the show. He opened the shop with his ex, they prayed at the temple together and even though he objected due to proprities sake eventually they loudly declared their love to each other and the whole neighbourhood knows. Wen somehow feels like he is living in the remnants of a bubble: his circle of friends seems very queer, his closest friend and the whole gym seem to be all part of that as well. This only might change now with him questioning his work and breaking up with Alan: some gatherings he won’t attend anymore apparently.
And finally, we have Li Ming. At school he doesn’t seem to open up to his classmates on most things and additionally is in the closet. While there wasn’t anything alluding to homophobic rethoric being spread at school we can see how the heteronormativity gets to him and feel that there must be good reason as to why no one knows. And it could just be how Li Ming is judging the situation based on vibes, we don’t know. His mother is or at least was homophobic but at the same time he is raised by his gay uncle who is surrounded by other gay people. And I love how it feels like this might have given him enough security to be comfortable with his own sexuality but how it also isn’t enough to shield him from the world at large.
With so many great shows coming out of Thailand and most of them getting more and more political it just feels so real and 2023 to me that Li Ming is part of a generation that knows who they are but still have to battle with the shadow that homophobia has cast way before they were born.
#moonlight chicken#i had this in my draft for a week now thinking if i'd get the time i could put this more leloquently but that was a lie as it turns out#might edit some stuff later#but for now i just have to write about how fantastic this show is for giving these varied realities of queer life#which are all influenced by their environment but also in the way the characters connect across generations#we don't know if him had a gay mentor who could've guided him#whereas li ming technically has him and his neighbourhood friends to reference#but li ming - understandibly so - seems more closeted than anyone else (minus Heart possigly)#in middle school everyone around me proclaimed how supportive they were of lgbt+ rights#but as soon as one guy came out he become the TALK of the school for weeks#he got reduced to his sexuality#and when he dated a girls some months after he got called attention seeking for coming out as gay before#and most people thought they were doing an open-minded thing#and despite knowing that i know that i am not the only queer kid who decided to not come out lest we'd become that talk of the whole school#and our dating lives scrutinized#even though all of us were super comfortable with who we are#and for me that was mostly the case because i had adult lesbian role models close to my family#so i knew i was good and that nothing strange was going on#but still - this othering made the school environment hostile enough to keep me in the closet#so yes - i am extremely delighted with how they depict this dynamic with li ming
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Reminder that killing off Will would not punish Noah, he's getting paid regardless and this is the final season.
It would, however, punish the writers who would be compromising their vision for the story
And more importantly, punish every queer person who sees themself in Will.
Don't forget that there a lot of people who don't keep up with the cast at all. To them, especially, it would be a message and only a message that traumatized, nuanced, queer whole people represented in media...do not deserve or cannot truly achieve happiness.
That sacrifice is not worth it. Will Byers didn't do anything to you. You just don't like the person who shares his face.
Characters are NEVER just characters. Characters represent audience members. It is for the same reason that I do not expect them to kill of any main characters. The only characters they have killed off before have been those with only one season or who were antagonists and therefore did not have enough investment to be as deep messaging to anyone projecting onto them. It is a writer's responsibility to understand what characters can mean to audience members, not just as likable people they'd like to befriend but as versions of themselves to live vicariously through to a happy ending they haven't yet achieved.
#stranger things#noah schnapp#will byers#he didn't do anything to you#but he's done so much FOR me#scream it from the rooftops with me#QUEER PEOPLE DO NOT NEED TO SETTLE#QUEER PEOPLE DO NOT NEED TO DIE SILENTLY AND CLOSETED#QUEER PEOPLE DO NOT NEED TO MAKE THEMSELVES SMALL AND AVOID TAKING UP SPACE#still working on that last one#i once pecked my girlfriend on an empty street then realized got scared and checked the street in my very progressive area#but we work towarsd it
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“The film only shows one part of the gay scene . . . it does not cover everything as many people wish it did. But such a hope or expectation is only a reflection of the dire situation in which there are so few films with or about gay characters. Almost any film starts off with the burden of trying to redress an imbalance, to make homosexuality visible in the cinema. We need hundreds of gay films, not half a dozen.”
- Ron Peck, director of Nighthawks 1978, quoted in The Celluloid Closet revised edition by Vito Russo
#the celluloid closet#queer#queer cinema#representation#lgbtqia#queer films#queer movies#ron peck#nighthawks#repeat it with me: we need hundreds of gay films!#for Hollywood this quote still sadly stands#for other markets where there are more queer stories being told: the variety is a feature not a bug!!!#because no one story can show the whole scope of any group of people#books#quote#quotes
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#ngl i don't feel as safe in the lgbtq community anymore now that i identify as a lesbian and lean a bit more masc nowadays...#esp since i genuinely used to be pan. i embraced it and still would if it fit me. it just doesn't anymore#ik people would call me a fakebian or some shit but how am i one if finding out im a lesbian has actually pushed me further into the closet#those people's opinions don't mean crap but i just needa talk through these feelings more somewhere...#i found a therapist yeah but idk if i'll open up to her about queer things because i live in a conservative-leaning state#and i can't really afford to find therapists that aren't connected to my workplace...#it really sucks#i need to remind myself that i don't need those people's approval...#beat it into my brain#jeri venting
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Matty Healy has found himself at the centre of controversy again as he took aim at Harry Styles during a recent interview.
The 1975 singer, who is the son of Loose Women star Denise Welch, is no stranger to making headlines, from making out with fans during concerts to mocking an Irish girl’s name in a viral video.
Now the musician has become the Twitter Main Character once again as social media erupts following comments Matty made about Grammy-winner Harry.
Speaking on The Adam Friedland Show podcast, Matty said the One Direction star, who has not labeled his sexuality, gets a ‘pass’ for ‘queerbaiting’ but he doesn’t know why.
He then added: ‘I don’t think the gays really like it. I think it’s young girls who think it’s a new thing who are like “Oh my God.”‘
‘Queerbaiting’ relates to a ploy most often seen in TV and films that aim to appeal to an LGBT+ audience by teasing, suggesting but never confirming, that a character or characters are queer.
The hosts suggested that gay men don’t care when a straight man pretends to be gay, describing it as ‘prancing around saying “Who wants to f*** my a**,’ and shockingly said it was as though Harry had ‘got the N-word pass from the gay community.’
Matty half-heartedly attempted to push back, saying ‘maybe it’s not all gay guys, but a lot of them,’ before the conversation moved on again.
The comments have caused uproar online, with even fans of The 1975 saying they were ‘disappointed’ by the comments and podcast as a whole, with some accusing him of homophobia.
Elsewhere on the podcast, the hosts and Matty mockingly discussed women’s periods, did impressions of Chinese accents and complained about ‘p***y drying up.’
One fan asked how the musician was ‘getting on stage every night and mocking toxic masculinity and then going on a podcast and undoing the whole thing by being wildly ignorant, misogynistic, homophobic, racist, everything else under the sun.’
Harry has not labeled his sexuality or gender identity, though he has only publicly been in relationships with women, and previously said he wasn’t using sexual ambiguity to be ‘more interesting’.
He later told Rolling Stone: ‘I think everyone, including myself, has your own journey with figuring out sexuality and getting more comfortable with it.’
Matty, meanwhile, is not sexually attracted to men but kisses male fans at his concerts ‘men can be objectively beautiful,’ but he doesn’t ‘want to f*** them.’
In 2019, the Chocolate singer made out with a male fan on stage at a concert in Dubai, where homosexuality is illegal and punishable by up to 10 years in prison.
Matty says he was threatened with arrest for the act, but was able to jet off to Japan to continue his world tour.
He was criticised online for endangering the fan he kissed, admitting to The Sunday Times later he felt ‘pretty irresponsible’ at first but then went ‘f*** that’ as he wanted to ‘be an ally for people who don’t have a voice.’
Metro.co.uk has reached out to reps for Matty and podcast host Adam for comment
Full article. Link here. Thanks @needvodkand1d for sharing the link and bringing it to my attention.
#YIKES#matty healy#being an ignorant asshole#The Adam Friedland Show#Denise Welch#queerbaiting#queer baiting#closeted queer people are still queer#and can express their queerness however they like#so stfu matty#your homophobia is showing#very ignorant#someone was butthurt bc harry didn't wanna sing on his stage#harry february 2023
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“oh i don’t want buck and tommy to break up so fast” “i want buck’s first relationship with a man to be more than just a fling” “i want buck to have a boyfriend” and i get all that and i respect it. however, counterpoint: i want a season 8 episode set at la pride and i want buck to be single and ready to mingle by the time that happens
#look in your heart and tell me you don’t want to see buck with a bi flag pin on his collar#shamelessly flirting with other queer people at pride and collecting phone numbers left and right#(maybe while a still-closeted eddie quietly seethes with jealousy? who can say)#911 abc
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"Aro and Ace people aren't LGBTQ+ because they're cishet!" "the A in LGBTQIA stands for ALLY!!!!"
Ally.... as in the cishet people who support the community.... the cishet people are LGBTQIA.... but Aros and aces can't be because they are....cishet....
#text#aphobia#queer#lgbt+#lgbtqia+#lgbtq+#im pretty sure we have already blatantly pointed out this broken logic many of times before#but seeing as APPARENTLY people still try to use it i think it should be brought up again#how absolutely stupid this logic is#'Ally is actually for people who are closeted' oh you mean the person who has an identity already included in the other letters?#a gay closested person still has the G in LGBTQ#'its for the people whose families who are queerphobic' so you mean the people whose families would shun them#if they found out they were lgbtq+ or supported them... somehow including ally into LGBTQ+ stops homophobes from being homophobic?????#the logic here never makes sense so I think y'all need to come up with better material or shut the fuck up lmao
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being autistic is miserable. what do you mean i cant tell if the people making jokes about the actors/writers for a media im into being actually gay are being serious or not
#dont wanna post this to my sideblog but like#you guys dont actually think rcg are closeted gay men. hahah. right#you accept that cishet people can write good queer narratives exploring their own sexuality while still being straight#like you guys recognize that rob and glenn are just really really close friends. r. right#like im not missing the joke in that right. people dont actually speculate about rob mcelhenney being gay. right.
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absolutely infuriating to me when people do not understand basic storytelling
#still wild that people are freaking out over every little leak pointing towards byler not being endgame#like i guess it's a possibility. but if it does end like that. the duffers are just bad writers. thats on them not on us for speculating#i cannot emphasize enough how horrible the writing would end up being if they didnt go canon with byler lmao#like what was the one way closet sign for then? the end of s3? literally the entirety of s4? blue meets yellow? glass closet references?#-mike's queer coding that is damn easy to pick up on if you just look a little? THE FUCKING. FINAL SHOT OF SEASON 4????#im sorry but my storytelling brain is just! like! man it's right there in the fucking text! don't listen to 8flix nick aka the man who#-speaks in riddles aka the man who had the scripts with weird and unecessary lines in them SHALL I GO ON???#i just. man. at this point it's just frustrating because yes stranger things has had its flaws with storytelling but of ALL the things it#-could be doubted on. when. literally everything is right there. i feel like im going insane.#sigh. anyway#stranger things#bee.txt
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