#claudeleine you are so loved by me and everyone
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hawkfuller · 5 months ago
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claudia asking louis “how does it work... love between two men?” to ultimately falling in love with a woman makes me so emotional.
she now knows, not just through louis' words but through her own feelings, that (queer) love “works like love”.
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isycamor · 5 months ago
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jacob anderson you get me so bad.
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madeleine and claudia got it right. in a show, and broadly universe, where we’re kind of conditioned to see everyone as not necessarily a villain but still doing every wrong thing imaginable their relationship is genuinely something right. THEY ARE the “spark in the dark.” yes they’re not both morally virtuous beings we know this but their relationship exists as a kind of hope that vampirism and companionship doesn’t have to mean the toxicity betrayal and deceit of relationships like loustat or loumand (or lesmand). which is SO funny too when u think about how many years those three have on claudeleine and yet, it seems like claudia and madeleine have a far better understanding of how to express and share their love through this paradigm of vampirism than any of the men in this series.
THEY GOT IT RIGHT.
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funtheysaid · 6 months ago
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IWTV 2x02 Initial Thoughts (Stream Of Consciousness)
- ooh the title card changed! I’ve been wanting to see the Eiffel Tower as a “fang” since season two was announced. WE IN PARIS BABY!
- ayooo three-way (interview) incoming
- Daniel’s “Paris sucks” aka “Paris is where my ex-bf is from and he sucks (dick), but not mine anymore, and no, I’m not bitter abt that, his city just fucking stinks (literally)”
- not two minutes in and Devil’s Minion is already flirting bickering
- ALICE MENTION alice!armand truthers are gon love that shit i just know
- “I’ll tell you what a woman is” That’s my sapphic-coded queen!!! 🕯️ pls S2 give me claudeleine 🕯️
- “Gauche” well, yes.
- Loumand: 🥰🥰 Daniel: 🙄 he‘s so second-hand embarrassed for them I can’t
- I mean, it’s crazy. What? We finish each other’s- I WAS WITH HIM FOR LONGER THAN LESTAT WAS WITH HIM WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN DANIEL PUT IT ON RECORD WEVE BEEN FUCKING FOR LIKE DOUBLE THE TIME …that’s what i…was….gonna say?
- Louis would be that faux-intellectual hipster who has his own darkroom full of overexposed and blurry, unfocused photos that are his “art” bc he took them on film (affectionate)
- Not claudia calling him out on it in the next scene “let me think I’m deeper than I am” okay honey you do you
- “She’s miserable but she doesn’t want to fuck with your too delusional left bank dilettante vibes” ahh the narrative foils are foiling, I see
- The show: Alice was pregnant, My dumb ass: OMEGAVERSE DEVILS MINION !?!?
- “joyfully joyless” MOOD.
- Claudia looking at Madeleine like “I don’t know if I want to be her or be with her” Dw babe it’s a rite of passage for all of us you’ll figure it out
- “Your French is ugly” 🥹👉👈 weally?
- “the dress for my body” LOOK I know what she meant, but I can’t help it that my mind is perverted
- LMFAO NOT GLORYHOLE PARK
- okay why Loumand playing with my heart “I will never harm you. And I never have” wtf wtf wtf
-Oh no the ole business card trick! we all know that’s Louis’ kryptonite he loves a man with credentials
- i like girls, but why is santiago kinda…
- Woah the Annika scene was really hard to watch which I think was the point but goddamn idk if I’ll be able to rewatch that part
- Estelle is my self-insert. I’m claiming her.
- “You both fucked Lestat!?!” HOW DID THEY KNOW WE WANTED HIM TO SAY THAT!?
- “He tasted of vermouth and annihilation” We both know you have no earthly idea what that man tastes like, Armand. Be so fucking fr right now.
- Did Armand just casually drop that he had a threesome with a father and son? I’m sorry, sir????
- “Now I know what two blood fat cocks slapping hands feel like” When I tell you my spirit left my body
- oh shit here we go. I’m a caged animal and it’s time for my weekly enrichment. give me my loustat.
- there’s a letter !?!? Wait wait I wasn’t ready for something like this wait stop stop please
- “all my love belongs to you. you are its keeper” just take me out back and shoot me at this point
- “it is a thin veil” fucking fuck why was that so romantic??
- the blood tears welling up in Lestat’s eyes I’m-
- “Rebound of my life” and in that moment, he spoke for the people
- WHAT IS HAPPENING???? Jesus Christ, they were talking about Alice and then it cuts to FUCKING ARMAND!?! This is not a drill. Everyone to your stations, this is not a drill.
- “You sold your Dad’s playboy magazines at recess” Hmmm? You’re telling me a “straight” teenage boy sold porno mags instead of keeping them for himself??? Yeah, I call gay on that one
- “she wanted to say yes” you motherfuckers.
- Oh shit Louis is pissy tonight rawr kitty got claws
- Devils minion girlies are thriving, skin glowing, hair silky, breath minty, pillow cold, stomach full, dreams sweet, and by Jove, we fucking deserve it !!!!
- daniel’s shaky “um- gulp” …….guys this is gonna sound crazy but i think there might actually be a god
- ooh the camera/photography being like a divide or barrier between Louis and his present situation. Like he wants to capture the moments, but only as if an onlooker and not a participant… interesting!
- “Who?” will never not be funny
- “Mon ami” in the same episode as “Mon Cher” FUCK ME GENTLY WITH A CHAINSAW
- “Armand for you” nah nah nah i changed my mind, you can do like Leatherface and shove that chainsaw in rough and hard
- Close up on Louis’ conflicted face, fire blazing behind him…. That’s not foreboding in any way. I’m sure they’ll all live happily ever after from now on :D
What a ride! Until next week! 🧛‍♂️🩸
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bluedalahorse · 4 months ago
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Two options for the character breakdown game: Sara (because you haven't done her yet, and we can't leave her out) and Claudia
You know what? I’m going to do both.
Claudia
How I feel about this character: TV CLAUDIA IS THE ABSOLUTE GREATEST. I’ll be honest, book!Claudia kind of weirded me out conceptually, especially the part where she and Louis are kind of in love but she still looked like a little kid? I also read Interview with the Vampire at the age when I was just… not great at loving female characters, and when I sort of wanted to ship mlm ships exclusively. But show Claudia is incredible. I mean, there’s the part where she’s extremely badass, and one of her first acts as a vampire is to just. Straight up eat a cop. But I love that we start from that badass, highly emotional teenage space but then go deeper with her, and I love how unapologetically herself she is. I love that she dreams about the idea of finding vampire community. I love that she stands up for herself. I love that she and Lestat are so alike and they fight about it. I love that she refuses to let her truth be erased by the way she records everything in her diary. Claudia deserves the world and I cannot say that enough.
All the people I ship romantically with this character: CLAUDELEINE OBVIOUSLY. They deserved more happiness together than they got.
My non-romantic OTP for this character: If there were a universe where Claudia and Daniel could have existed at the same time and become friends, they would have been unstoppable, and they would have adored one another, and everyone else would have suffered for it. Hilariously.
My unpopular opinion about this character: Occasionally I see book only fans argue that the tragedy of Claudia is ruined when she’s turned as a teenager rather than a little kid. This is something I very much disagree with. Teens are just as tragic as little kids, first of all, but people do have a weird bias against teenagers and actually feeling for teenagers, and I wish they wouldn’t. Also, since Claudia looks like someone in between childhood and adulthood, the age that people in-universe read her as is like… entirely determined by what they want to read her as to control her. Sometimes people infantilize her and make her play Baby Lu. Sometimes they subject her to very adult forms of abuse. Claudia is still tragic no matter what, okay?
One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon: I wish she and Madeleine could have lived in that cute cottage forever. (Gosh if only Armand hadn’t been stuck behind the baby gate…)
Sara
How I feel about this character: MY WONDERFUL DAUGHTER WHO HAS NEVER DONE ANYTHING WRONG IN HER LIFE. But, while we’re talking about teenage girls, she’s one of the best teenage girls ever written on TV, ever. Sara reached out through the screen and grabbed me by the heart. Her care for others, her willingness to look past the obvious of a situation, her curiosity about who she is and what she values… when she said “no one likes me when I’m me” my sixteen year old self felt seen. I am consistently floored that all my favorite YouTubers who talk about autism and ADHD rep in television have weirdly never talked about her. I almost avoided joining YR tumblr fandom because the abundance of “Sara is on thin ice” posts I saw while lurking made me hesitant and disappointed. Most of my fandom hiatuses were caused in part by people being shitty about her. Sara has one of the best damn arcs in Young Royals, hands down.
All the people I ship romantically with this character: Well, obviously August, controversial as that opinion is. I think their relationship ended up in the right place by the finale, but I can’t resist their chemistry along the way. And as I was saying to @heliza24 earlier, there’s just something about characters who perceive themselves as unlovable finding love with one another. Now, I want to have other Sara ships, but… I don’t know if I do, really? I might read Sara as a little arospec, like gray aro or something, and it actually means a lot to me that she chooses friends and family over romance in the end. But if you get back to me a few months from now maybe I’ll feel differently, who knows.
My non-romantic OTP for this character: potentially weird turn but like, Wilhelm? Specifically in Heart and Homeland where they end up in a kind of disability solidarity queerplatonic partnership. I don’t know if I feel that as much in canon. As far as canon goes, Felice first and Simon second.
My unpopular opinion about this character: I’m going to make this an extension of my August Unpopular Opinion on my August post, because I’m vibrating on a higher sargust frequency than usual this week due to anxiety about travel and I kinda just want to talk about sargust because it’s a comfort pairing. And that is… Sara’s feelings for August are something we can enjoy fannishly, too. They are something we can write fic about and come up with AUs for and make gifsets and fanmixes of. The AU stuff especially—I feel like sargust still could have happened in an alternate universe, or in a universe where Simon didn’t end up at Hillerska, or whatever else. Sara and August have a relationship in their own right and while they are a superb foil to wilmon they are not only a foil to wilmon. There is a level of Weird Teen Girl Horniness represented onscreen in the portrayal of Sara’s crush on August that just feels like, refreshing and authentic. The yearning with the picture of him in 1.5, like girl his hair is terrible in that picture and yet you are there for it! The grinding in 2.2! The dumb little arm punch in 2.3 before they just give up and make out! Seeing a lot of people who’d previously said only negative things about Sara suddenly decide they like her after season 3 when she dumped August was… not as comforting as I’d hoped it would be. Like again, to be clear, I do think their relationship ended in the right place and I want Sara away from him, obligatory “August did terrible things that I do not condone” disclaimer that I’m very bored of typing by now etc etc, I get why this is not everyone’s cup of tea, and so on and so forth. But I just… like them together, okay. And I wonder about all the other people who liked them together who ended up leaving the fandom because there wasn’t as much of a place to express that.
One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon: Sara’s arc is pretty perfect. I have one thing I maybe wanted to say about S3 but I’ll hold back for now. EDIT: I wanted her and Wilhelm to have more interaction in season 3. What was the lack of that about?
One thing’s for sure, after typing all that I really want Sara and Claudia to be friends, and to be able to play with horses together.
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savagewildnerness · 5 months ago
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S2E6
It wasn't what I expected somehow. But I love Madeleine. I love that they gave her that concept to explain as Lestat describes in TTOTBT where he thinks that fledgling and maker DO have a connection and understanding of each other's feelings, but at such a beyond-words (& powerful) level that they feel the other and their emotions rather than hear their thoughts. I loved the flashes of Madeleine's life. I loved Delainey's magnificent acting when she kills those attacking Madeleine. I love how Louis sees how Madeleine loves Claudia. I love how Madeleine loves Claudia and how she sees the love in everyone. And all in all it will make events to come all the more tragic.
Aside from the beauty of Claudeline, I was relieved to discover in a way that it is not only around Lestat I need things to be book-accurate.... I was terrified for a moment Armand was going to make Madeleine.... and I have to be honest... it took me out of the episode somewhat because then I began to imagine what it must be to write the show & know how much your audience adore these characters and the pressure of that - how will they feel - I must not disappoint. And basically... I mean... I do like what they did and it was beautiful in the end and I am sure I will be able to enjoy it when I rewatch, knowing I am safe... but I don't know that it is good to be taken out of the show as I was. And fearing Armand might turn Madeleine took me out of the present moment of experiencing the show.
A cruelty in Louis... a kind of coldness that surprised me... and the weird thing about that is that it is accurate to book-Louis... but it's so un-Jacob that it's surprising for that reason.
I feel really nervous about next week. I found Lestat in episode 3 very unsettling as he was so un-Lestat... and if E7 is solely Armand/Louis' perspective & possibly from Armand in a storytelling way, I feel very worried how I'll feel.
GOSH, Assad was once again magnificent in this episode. The look outside the cafe. I adore you, Armand.
I don't know what to think about memory... Armand seemed to be fully implying the only thing he altered in Louis' memory was the suicide attempt... but we obviously know that isn't true even by the implanted words... but I just don't know what to think.
Raglan James unsettled me too because I don't want Daniel to be not in Eric's body. I want Eric-as-a-vampire!
I'm so impressed with what they did with Madeleine and Claudeleine, because really it's such a short amount of time they spent with them, but what a beautiful thing they created there. That feels way more poignant than in the books... I screen grabbed, but it is too soon to share images, so only words.
hehe, awww.... so cute that Jam loved this episode because it highlights their daughter so beautifully. Delainey was brilliant here. Loved her work.
But aside from the beauty of Claudeleine, I do feel unsettled... worried... scared...
Also, though I love that Jam said they loved this episode, it had made me feel I’d adore the episode… and I liked it & found much beautiful in it (AND Claudeleine made me cry a little it was so beautiful) but y’know…. Making me think it’d be my favourite episode of S2 so far was unrealistic expectations for me!
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blatterpussbunnyfromhell · 3 months ago
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Ah shit half of the answer got eaten so here goes :
Favorite ship: Loumand (they are AWFUL for each other and I love to explore their dynamic in fanworks) followed closely by Claudeleine (they are PERFECT for each other and I wish we'd gotten more of them 🥲).
Favorite friendship: Daniel and Louis.
Favorite quote : "Tu veux être l'une des nôtres ?"/ "Non. Je veux être avec elle. Toi tu peux aller te faire foutre." and uhhh Lestat’s letter to Louis which I can't recall exactly but it did made me cry.
Worst character death: ...Do I have to say it? 😭. Besides the obvious one, the Romanian woman's death. It felt deeply human, and unfair.
This made me so happy you have no idea moment: The Loustat ball scene dance in s1, I am a SUCKER for men in period clothes waltzing homosexually while everyone gawks at them. And the café scene in s2ep6.
Saddest moment: ...Claudia’s actual making.
Favorite location: I don't think I have one
@scribophile
For the Fandom Ask Game
Interview pleasse! ☺️
Favorite male character: Unfortunately, Armand. Which I truly didn't expect, lol, cause I really didn't like him in the 1994 film. I am fully aware that he is unsufferable, but I love to hate him.
Favorite female character: Claudia, obviously. Bailey and Delainey are both amazing actresses, and I looove what the show's done with the character.
Least Favorite Character: Lestat 😅. It's not that I don't like him, I love him, it's just that my liking for him came really late hahaha b
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