#children of the big 3

[princessofghosts-posts]

Can we all talk about when Percy in Tartarus almost choked Akhlys on her own poison? Like,I know that Annabeth got scared of it and what he was doing and becoming in the moment,because that wasn't Percy at all,but the "some things must not be controlled" is totally bullshit. Every child of the Big 3 control an aspect of a calamity that shouldn't be controlled: lightning,sea,earth,air and death (Nico is the equivalent of Jesus and Satan both in PJO if we think enough about it). Being able to control dangerous things that "shouldn't being controlled" is literally in their divine blood.

The guy was trying to save both of them. He did give in to the darkness,but he was so tired of it,it's ok to snap when you are put under so much pressure from everybody you know. And yes,I get Annabeth's POV of it,but Percy was doing everything to survive there,he was risking no matter what,you don't need to make him feel bad about wanting to survive in hell. You needs to adapt sometimes,especially when the situation is so extreme,not everything is black and white,there is a lot of grey too.

Percy's power evolved because of the needs to protect himself and Annabeth in there,mixed with the high level of stress while trying to remain sane,and the worries about making it back or not. That whole speech was uncalled for (like most things that Annabeth did in Tartarus) and she could have handled better the situation no matter how scared she was. Look at Reyna,she is extremely scared of ghosts because of her past but didn't want to make Nico aware of that,and consoled him after he killed Bryce without a second thought. Was she scared? Yes. Did she made Nico feel guilty about protecting them and using his powers to do so? No,she was greatful to him and understood that he needed to,if they wanted to come back to a successful quest. That's exactly how Annabeth should had reacted to Percy and Akhlys.

And let's be honest,Nico and Percy should had a conversation about what they went through in there,especially because their powers evolved and are stronger than before,at the end of BoO. If not alone then with Dionysus as a therapist because they both need it after that hell. Nico would have a crash out hearing about that speech (since his powers go against the law of nature itself) and would make Percy understand that there is nothing wrong with what he did.

Percy is a survivor. He was surviving in Tartarus and sometimes surviving requires doing bad things and it doesn't matter if in the long run,those same bad things take you out of dangerous situations. He survived. That's the important. Also,poison is still a liquid,so no matter how strange is,Percy can still control it because his power can and it's completely normal for him to do so.

I'm honestly disappointed in Annabeth for this,especially when part of what she said influenced Percy so bad that decided to not fight Polybotes's poison and die in his father's domain. And other than the talk he had with Jason after it,it's never mentioned again and he and Annabeth don't talk abou it. Which isn't ok.

The fandom forget about it all the time when it cames to their dynamic,but yes guys,Annabeth almost killed Percy with her reasoning,let's address it more often ok? Everyone who think what she said didn't contribute to his actions is dead wrong,they were almost co-dipended in everything during HoO and Percy was already doubting his powers before Tartarus: he already was scared of them and scared of drowning. Annabeth made it only worse for him. And it's never addressed,as if it never had consequences.

A talk with Nico would have helped him understanding that yes,it's normal what he did and he has a right to it,since poison is still a liquid: that's a part of his power,like raising the dead is to Nico,no metter how strange or "ugly" it is. He was surviving,he needed to use everything he could use to make it back alive,and he did. And if it's coming from the guy who's powers literally proves Annabeth's "you can't control some things" is stupid and wrong,especially when it cames to Big 3 children,then it has more effect.

But we never got to have that too.

Justice for Percy,he deserve better than this.

[msmoon-and-the-cyberdemon]

LET’S JOOOOEEE!

[puppetmaster13u]

Prompt 261

“So is no one going to talk about the eldritch space child or…” 

“I mean, do you want to get between a child and Batman? I think the only one who could even get close right now is Superman…” 

“No you’re right, I think- oh my god the eldritch space child is playing with batman’s bat-ears and he’s not doing anything about it what the fuck I thought only Robins could get away with that-” 

[rona-eser]

It’s good to see you again too, boatman

[gummi-ships]

Kingdom Hearts 3 - San Fransokyo

[oifaaa]

in your roleswap au, what if anything do you think would change about each character's backstory to lead them to their new jobs?

not much I don't think like I think for Usopp after his mum dies he decides he's gonna find his dad to let him know and to do that he gets into navigation - for Nami she decides to pick up the sword so she can kill arlong if he goes back on his word that's also why she uses 3 sword style bc arlong is a swordfish and her child brain figured she's need a sword in her mouth to block it - I think Zoro is the most different although he starts in a dojo I think Kuina would have focused her training on gunmanship as its a weapon that put people on equal footing and so once she dies Zoro picks up her gun instead of her sword

[the-3merald-butterfly]

I had to, after seeing Willow and Aster interacting, I also had to draw them interacting!! Some silly magician children!!!

And as a little bonus, I drew Willow if she looked more like your magician!! I think she looks pretty neat!

Magician Design and Aster belong to @cicicolorao !!! Please check his art out too!! Their art is so silly and fun and he’s really nice!!!

(Send em lots of love and tell em Z said hi!!!)

[princessofghosts-posts]

I just realize that all of the sons of the Big Three had memory loss.

Percy and Jason got switched and Hera erased their memories.

Percy could remember only Annabeth's name because Hera couldn't totally cancel her from his brain (their love is so strong and,also,probably Aphrodite's doing),of his beef with Ares (hate so strong that he couldn't forget it) and unconsciously also Nico (some says it's for the strong guilt that he has for him,but I don't think so).

Jason,on the other hand,couldn't remember anything of his past,and with also Aphrodite and her mist manipulation,he had his brain a little fucked up. Even after HoO,he didn't have ALL of his memories back,and his friendship and relationship were based on a lie (Jasper could have gone on,they could have started all over again as they wanted if they really wanted to,but Rick didn't give them the possibility).

Both of them had their memories taken away by Hera,that for Percy is like an horrible petty aunt,and for Jason is like a sort of strange step-mother,and he was also her champion.

Then we have Nico (and Bianca).

The memories of his life,before arriving at the Lotus Hotel & Casino,have been washed away in the Lethe by his father himself. And for half of the narrative he struggles to remember his mother and what his life was before the discovery of being a demigod. And,like Jason,I don't think he'll ever be able to get all of them back. Hades thought he was doing them some good (especially with Maria's death,that at the time was still fresh and he didn't want them to live with that weight),but he still deprived his son of memories of a mother and sister that he will never get back,or at least not all of them.

On the other hand,we have Bianca,Hazel and Thalia: their daughters.

Bianca had the same problem as Nico,but she never understood what was actually happening with her memories,because she thought it was only the Lotus effects on them (70 years is big after all,even tho for them it was only a couple of weeks). And she died too early to find out that her father erased half of their life.

During SoN,we see Hazel struggling with her flashbacks regarding her past life. And it's linked to her death. Hazel spent years as a soul,although she remembered who she was and her life. But when she was brought back to life by Nico (he became the equivalent of Jesus in Greek mythology at this point) those same memories returned with her too. This caused her to have flashbacks both because she had to readjust to being alive again and because of her curse. She also had to readjust herself with the modern world,that was different from what she had always knew. It was never a memory loss,but for me it's close to that. She was processing her life.

Thalia's been dead for years,and when returned to life,after the events of SoM,she felt like she didn't belong. Luke,her best friend (and crush),become their enemy; Annabeth,the girl she took care of,had grown up and knew how to take care of herself now; Grover was almost never present at the camp,and she did not know who most of the demigods there were. Time passed for everyone but her,and she felt stuck in the change. I don't think she had any sort of memory loss problem,but more of the fact that she had to readjust herself with the years loss.

At this point for the Gods,erasing the memories of their demigods children/nephews,it's a family tradition. Because half of them had amnesia and the other half was stuck in time (2 of them also came back to life,while another one died,but anyway-). Unfortunately Nico belongs to both,that guy can never catch a break.

[halebobgr]

happy birthday to THE Cloud Strife who everyone adores

[tedbird]

happy (belated) birthday to our favourite dreamer ^^ this is very late because i learned it was his birthday at approximately dark outside pm yesterday. he gets fancy star clothes as an apology for my horrible time management

+ a post-it note doodle i made in class

[moopasaurus]

✨Shiver frye and big man✨

[sendnunes]

When Robotnik said he is undesirable by men and women, I knew it was destiny for my they/them ass to fall in love with him

[morathor]

Pike and Scanlan getting married: I'm not into this but it's the end of the campaign. It's easy enough to let it go and move on. Pike indicating she and Scanlan are amicably divorced: The knowledge that it didn't work out adds a bittersweet angle to the marriage that actually makes me like it more now. Whatever the fuck Pike and Scanlan have going on now: This is a glorious disaster and I want like a million episodes of this.

[theamazingmaddyas]

*Essay on Children of the Big Three, original characters, and canon compliance*

Trigger Warnings: Death/Murder

During ace week this year, in one of my oneshots I had a, minor, original daughter of Zeus named Enid, which has sent me down a rabbit hole of thoughts about big three children, and how to make original characters with Zeus/Jupiter, Poseidon/Neptune, or Hades/Pluto as their godly parents while still maintaining the integrity of the story. That is to say, Percy being the child of the prophecy and the acknowledgement that the Big Three Pact was created and subsequently disbanded from the mid-1940s [while Grover says in the Lightning Thief that the pact was post-WWII, I have reason to believe that the prophecy itself, (and therefore the pact), was given during the war, between 1941 and 1943, rather than after it's conclusion. The reason behind this has to do with Riordan's wonky timeline, which I will probably make a separate post about] to the end of the Second Titan War in The Last Olympian, which is quite a large window of time; about seventy years. Note, this is solely talking about the creation of OCs that do not contradict canon at all, and therefore is not talking about OCs such as another Jackson kid, a third Grace kid, or a different prophecy child, those stories are not meant to fall under the realm of canon compliance.

First, it is easiest to split the children of the big three into four distinct categories—older than 16 when the pact was enacted; under sixteen, but already born, when the pact was enacted (this category would include Hazel, Bianca, and Nico); born during the pact (Thalia, Jason, and Percy); and born after the pact was dissolved (my character in The Hearth's Children Enid). I also will be looking into the difference between Greek and Roman Big Three kids, as that has some interesting implications of the pact.

While none of the books talk about whether the pact also included in their Roman forms, I am writing this under the assumption that it is. There are many reasons I believe this, but I will detail the main ones below. While it is evident that the Twelfth Legion has never heard of the Great Prophecy, we also know that the Sibylline Books, where the Romans are known to get their prophecies from, has been destroyed for centuries and only remains in Ella's photographic memory. This is not relevant, however, because Ella, of course, is not known by Camp Jupiter until after Percy fulfills the prophecy. Additionally, the only reason they know the Prophecy of Seven is because it was transcribed before the book was burnt. It is not unreasonable to believe that the Great Prophecy, like the Prophecy of Seven, was in the original Sibylline Books but lost because of it being destroyed and was not saved. It can also be inferred that Camp Jupiter did not know of the pact made as well, given they do not seem too shocked at Jason, and later Hazel and Nico's, existence. That being said, Jason's treatment is also a big indicator that the pact was still prevalent to Jupiter, Neptune, and Pluto. While Jason being at camp didn't seem to be overly shocking to the Camp Jupiter population from what little we know about it, he is also revered by everyone, despite being in the 5th Cohort, which is known to be valued as less than. If the Big Three pact did not cross over to the Romans then wouldn't it be safe to say that Jupiter and Neptune (and to some small degree, Pluto) would have had a ton more kids to compensate for the fact that they couldn't have Greek kids? There is no feasible reason for Percy and Thalia to be Greek if Neptune and Jupiter respectively could have as many kids as they want with no consequences. But since Camp Jupiter isn't aware of the Big Three Pact, the lack of big three kids over the past half-century probably seems more like a strange coincidence than anything else. [Note, it is extremely likely that, even in series, there are legacies of Jupiter, around camp. While it is unknown just how many generations removed a legacy is allowed to be to still join the legion, Octavian is still a member despite his family being in the legion for 100 years (meaning Apollo must be, at minimum, his great-grandfather) which would put his first family member in the legion pre-pact, and therefore pre-the decline of Big Three Kids. Additionally, Claudia (from Camp Jupiter Classified) has no problem entering the Legion as a great-granddaughter of Mercury before she learns that she is, in fact, a demigod too. Shen Lun, Frank's great-grandfather, is extremely far removed from Poseidon, but I count him as an anomaly because he was allowed to join the legion due to his strength rather than his nearness to godly blood. Neptune and Pluto are far less likely to have descendants at camp (Pluto actually wouldn't have any at the time of Heroes of Olympus cause Hazel claims she would be alone if they separated by godly parent, though it is possible there are descendants of Pluto in New Rome or have already left the legion) and, as we see with Percy and Shen Lun, Neptune's children and descendants were othered, and therefore would be unlikely to send any children they had to the legion which would explain why Percy's existence seems far more shocking than any other Big Three kid] This fact can also have been why Jason, Hazel, and Nico weren't completely gaped at, since legacies of their godly parents likely have been steadily in the legion for decades.

Now that we have covered the Greek/Roman divide when it comes to Big Three Kids, and that your OC being Roman or Greek has very little effect on their existence, only on their peer's perception of them, let's move onto years. (Before we begin that, I would like it noted that I will be referring to the gods collectively as their Greek names; by that meaning Zeus will refer to both Zeus and Jupiter, unless otherwise stated for simplicity sake) The easiest two, and the only two where there isn't any nuance and will be plausible in canon timeline 100% if the time are: over 16 at the time of prophecy and born post-The Second Titan War. If your OC is already 16 by the time a "Child of the Eldest Gods/Shall Reach Sixteen Against All Odds" than the prophecy could not be about them. While, yes, part of the reason the Big Three Pact was enacted was due to the overpowered nature of Big Three children, a larger portion of it was so that the prophecy was postponed as long as possible. It would be a lot easier for a seventeen year old, who is not the prophecy child, to fly under the radar rather than a fifteen year old, who very well could overthrow the Greek gods in accordance to the Oracle of Delphi. No matter who you make your OC's godly parent, they could, plausibly, exist within the realm of the series. Same goes with children born after the Last Olympian. When Percy is being awesome and declaring that the gods pay child support, he also mentions the fact that the pact was kind of stupid since two thirds of the gods broke it anyway. And with the prophecy already fulfilled, much of the gods (especially Zeus') fears were greatly diminished. Personally, I believe that the Zeus cabin would fill up pretty quickly about a decade after the Percy Jackson series conclusion due to the rather adulterous and promiscuous myths involving Zeus, and that the Poseidon Cabin isn't that far behind in size. (In fact, Poseidon even jokes with Percy to say to expect siblings in due time, which could mean he already has plans to have more kids now that he knows he won't subject them to a life of pure horror). Hades is a bit more subdued, and is often portrayed as being overall pretty loyal and not so promiscuous so his cabin probably would not fill up too fast, but rather have a few kids sporadically here and there rather than a bucketload at the same time like his brothers.

In order to maintain canon compliance, if an OC were to be born post-pact but pre-the dissolving of the pact, there is no way their story wouldn't be inherently tragic. The only somewhat happy end for a Big Three character in this category would be to join the Hunters of Artemis, as Thalia and Bianca did to take them out of the running for Prophecy Kid, but if the OC were a boy? Well, they'd have to meet a tragic end before turning 16. Again, we know from the books that no big three kid attends camp after the pact is dissolved before Thalia is discovered, which leads me to believe that, if Zeus or Poseidon (In my opinion, the fact that Hades does not break the oath is a rather poignant and important factor in his characterization and how we, as the audience, are meant to interpret Hades in this medium. In Blood of Olympus, Nico talks about the justice of Hades to Bryce Lawrence, and a key aspect of justice is the keeping of one's words. Sure, Hades is often seen as a villain, but he never lies, but rather he manipulates the truth and omits, example being he said to Nico in The Last Olympian he would hurt Percy, which he didn't, but he never claimed he wouldn't hold him hostage. So, personally, I do not think a child of Hades OC born in this time frame could be seen as canon compliant, but one could try and argue if they see another way to keep the integral bits of Hades' personality while still breaking the oath. But, honestly, I don't see it as plausible.) were to sire a kid in their Greek forms, they'd most likely be dead before twelve, as that is the age that Camp Half-Blood typically begins looking for campers. As for their Roman aspects, again, the child would be dead before sixteen, but if we were to look at what was previously stated about Jason's characterization, it is safe to assume no Roman Big Three kid could make it to Lupa (as we know all Big Three kids would be able to pass her, as Jason succeeded at two). Why they fail to reach her is up to the creator of the OC, but personally, I think a Neptune kid would probably be struck down by Jupiter and a Jupiter kid by Neptune or Pluto (Jason's survival is strongly tied to the fact that he was from Sonoma and therefore didn't have to travel far to get to Lupa) would not only be plausible, but also have that inherently tragic Big Three thing.

There is a little caveat if the Big Three kid were born after Percy, which is to say that they could, possibly, survive past sixteen. Personally, I think this will depend on how much younger than Percy they are. If they were born within four years, their chance of survival is slim to none. They'd probably be killed. (Jason, of course, is an exemption, which is why their is a slim chance of survival, but the author would need an extremely thorough explanation on how they survived without either camp up until twelve to fifteen.) While it technically goes against compliance to have a Big Three kid arrive during the course of Heroes of Olympus and Trials of Apollo, there is the possible argument that can be made that an OC this age could still respect the integrity of the story, which is the most important aspect of Canon Compliance in my opinion. Over four years younger than Percy has a highest survival chance of kids born during the pact, with the younger they are, the chance of their survival increasing massively. A kid born a few days before the battle honestly has a pretty fine chance of survival.

Now, onto the most interesting category of Big Three Kids in my opinion: those born less than sixteen years pre-the Pact. Firstly, like with the previous section, I do not believe it is possible for a child of Hades to be in this section without destroying the integrity of the story. Hades' protectiveness when it comes to his children is an integral part of the story, as well as the way that Hades tries to hide them from Zeus, another Hades kid in this age range doesn't make sense. Additionally, if we are to go off the idea that the prophecy was first stated in 1941 (which, as previously stated, makes the most sense with the wonky timeline) another ulterior motive for Marie to move to Alaska could be to escape the wrath of Jupiter, and another reason Gaea targeted Hazel, because she had the power to be the prophecy kid. But, she dies before Zeus really has the chance to track her down. (Yes, Alaska is beyond the gods, but do you really believe Zeus would have let that stop him if Hazel survived until 15? I doubt it). A Pluto OC makes slightly sense than a Hades OC but I think in both aspects Hades' characterization is that he cares about his children as best he can. I think it's in character for Pluto to have actually visited Hazel, but Marie didn't let him get close to her because of her resentment towards him due to Hazel's curse. Also, Hades' having three kids within four years is a lot, and with his less promiscuous ways, it contradicts the integrity of canon too much to have other young Hades kids when the prophecy was uttered and the pact enacted. Also, Hades tries to harbor Nico and Bianca, and if he had more children he tried to do that with, Persephone would've started a riot.

Now with the logistics of Hades OCs out of the way, let's talk about Zeus and Poseidon. Honestly, it doesn't make sense for there not to be Zeus and Poseidon kids in this age range because of their, as previously stated, adulterous and promiscuous ways. It can be argued, and I will argue, that the way in which Zeus demands Nico and Bianca to be handed over by a certain date has the implications that Zeus already had kids that had been "turned over". As tragic as it is, the canon heavily implies that Zeus euthanized murdered his own children. At least, that is how I've always interpreted it. (I doubt he turned them into trees or other plants, but it is possible, it is just for me the reason Zeus turns Thalia into a tree is because he wasn't the one to kill her, Hades was, and Zeus does not seem like the type of god to take that lightly.) Poseidon's under sixteen kids must've been killed before Zeus went after Bianca and Nico, because Hades seems to be the only one who Zeus is really grilling to hand over his children from the memories we see in The Last Olympian. Was Poseidon planning on harboring his children like Hades tried to, but Zeus got to them first? Did Poseidon just cross his fingers and hope for their survival without much aid? Did Poseidon turn them over to Zeus to avoid fighting? We can't be sure. As much as I'd like to believe the first one, especially since Poseidon seems to be a decent enough father to Percy (and Tyson and Trident though neither of them are half-bloods and therefore could not be the kid of the prophecy), Percy also is heavily implied to be his father's favorite, though whether that's because of his status as a forbidden child or because of Sally, it is unknown, so it is possible Poseidon just crossed his fingers and hoped his children were strong enough to survive. I don't feel like Poseidon would turn his kids over to Zeus, but honestly who's to say?

Clearly, I have a lot of feelings about Big Three OCs and just children of the Big Three in general. If you're really interested in the discrepancies in the timeline of The Pact, feel free to ask questions on it, because I personally haven't seen anyone talk about it but I think about it all the time. Also, if you've seen any posts on that topic, send it to me! I think about Riordan's wonky timeline a little too often to be healthy.

[that-sunny-pup]

(Resending just in case it got lost.)

" Yeah.. "

(Moonstone's deer critter has been spotted.)

" MOMMY!! "

[The sudden panic and running startles Solar for a bit before he brushes it off and follows after the kit, worried]

"bud?? what's going on?..."

[fate-defiant]

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OH RIGHT gregorian calendar christmas means Santa Zero is in town!!!! Thank you so much Zero this really made my evening <3