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The Flash | 9x01
#the flash#barry allen#iris west#iris westallen#iris west-allen#westallen#9x01#dctv#chester p. runk#allegra garcia#my edit
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Don’t think I’m going to post it (for a variety of reasons) but after the finale I was so mad that I had to at least TRY and rewrite it. Here’s a part that I kinda liked
#also fun fact#the reason I stopped working on this is because I started writing Trophy#*a few days later#side fics#fic snippet#my writing#my posts#the flash#eobard thawne#chester p. runk#also this was my explanation for Thawne having so much beef with him#CAUSE IT MADE NO SENSE
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@ DC Comics: S.T.A.R. Labs- An Anthology (creative team- my dreams! 😭):
-The Atom / Ray Palmer & Ryan Choi
-Chester P. Runk
-Bumblebee
-Mr. Terrific
-Flash / Barry Allen
-Cyborg
-Metal Men & Doc Magnus
-Vibe (comic book costume design, but the long hair, personality & intellect from the Flash TV show on The CW)
-Power Girl / Tanya Spears
(+ Other STEM heroes, but these to start!)
#S.T.A.R. Labs#The Atom#Atom (DC Comics)#Ray Palmer#Ryan Choi#Chester P. Runk#Chester Runk#Chester P#Bumblebee (DC Comics)#Mister Terrific#Mr. Terrific#Michael Holt#The Flash#Flash (DC Comics)#Flash#Barry Allen#Cyborg (DC Comics)#Victor Stone#Vic Stone#Metal Men#Vibe (DC Comics)#Cisco Ramon#Power Girl#Tanya Spears#STAR Labs#DC Comics#Diversity#Representation#Inclusion
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Opposite energies create balance.
#The Flash#Westallen#Kamisco#Snowstorm#Chellegra#Barry Allen#Iris West#Caitlin Snow#Ronnie Raymond#Kamilla Hwang#Cisco Ramon#Chester P. Runk#Allegra Garcia#s7#gifs by lace
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The Flash: The thing with Caitlin's “Death”…
In season 9 episode 2 reveals that Caitlin Snow is dead
Khionne/Snow has the physical body of her but no memories knowledge etc of Caitlin or even Frost as she didn’t know anybody and had no ice powers or medical knowledge
Meaning Caitlin is effectively dead
The thing is partly due to the nature of the episode of trying to bring her back they didn't grieve this character of 9+ years
And part of it, besides the writing and that the actress wasn't leaving or anything like that
Is that I think the technicality is that this is just Caitlin 2.0/3.0
As they say, this is basically what her father wanted in his initial experiment to make a Caitlin 2.0 but he ended up with basically two daughters (Caitlin and Frost) instead
So in a way, Caitlin is Khionne just without the memories, and such as her body is still there
Which brings up the question of if someone loses their memories are they still them? As in if you lose your memories but you don’t know your parent's siblings' friends' skills likes dislikes etc and you don’t get them back are you still you?
As before they made the split Caitlin and Frost were kind of like new Caitlin
And when Frost was in control for a while it was treated as Caitlin before they got more understanding of the two different personalities
But again I think the problem is how the characters reacted
Caitlin can be killed unceremoniously that's not the main problem (still a problem)
But the characters reacting the way they did was weird, like when it was time to vote a majority picked Frost over Caitlin when this should have been a Caitlin death episode
And when they decided to keep Khionne it’s not like they finally grieved Caitlin they went partying
Again they wrote it in a way that it’s less Caitlin is dying and more this Caitlin 2.0 but it just never felt right to me (and from what I see online others as well)
And when you add Hartley’s and Red Deaths' plot it never felt real
Granted it’s episode 2 they can make this feel right as the story goes on
Like people are already theorizing they’ll bring Caitlin back somehow which is why they didn’t treat it as a permanent goodbye as she might come back
And I think narratively there is something here
Over the whole show, Caitlin has been this tragic character, dead fiancé twice, evil boyfriend, jerk boyfriends, dad died, twin sister died, never really found love, etc she was hurting the whole show then finally found love in her “new” sister but when her sister dies she spirals
So when this character essentially decides to kill herself to bring back someone she loves or in this case to give a new one a chance to be happy it’s a sad happy ending as the tragic character can finally rest and this new character can have joy that she couldn’t
The thing is the characters didn’t see Caitlin as a tragic character
Chester and Allegra are newer and didn’t experience most of it and were closer to Frost in all honesty
Similar with Cecile
Iris despite stuff like Caitlin being her maid of honor weren’t like best friends
But Barry (and Joe) knew her story and they didn’t really see her as a tragic character if anything outside of the recent death of Frost they kinda saw her story as normal stuff for the most part still sad but it’s not like they saw Caitlin as this character that was struggling or stuff like that the whole show
This is where I think the disconnect is, it seems the audience cared and reacted more appropriately than the characters as we’ve known her for 9 seasons, whereas Chester Allegra Cecile Mark didn’t and Iris and she wasn’t the closest to, and so on
They treated her as if she was on the same level as Allegra for example but to us, she’s basically on the same level as Barry and Iris
I understand that Caitlin isn’t dead the same way Frost died as Caitlin technically transformed into Khionne but when they constantly use the word dead and the machine hurt Khionne it’s hard to see it differently
They can “fix” it with a funeral or memorial or something but yeah just felt odd to think Caitlin’s dead and when they were trying to bring her back most wanted her sister more and when neither happens they didn’t take time to grieve her properly and even went partying afterward
I don't know I'm just confused and my thoughts are incoherent right now
#the flash#flash#barry allen#iris west#iris west allen#caitlin snow#killer frost#flash season 9#joe west#cecile horton#allegra garcia#chester p. runk#chillblaine#khione#khionne#snow#Khionne snow#Khione snow
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I don't know what they were trying to do with this ,but they totally failed.
(Bununla ne yapmaya çalışıyorlardı bilmiyorum ama tamamıyla batırdılar.)
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The Flash Season 9 Episode 10 A New World Part 1
Barry
Yep definitely a time jump.
What the hell happened?
LMAO “what did I do this time?”
Detective Singh!! Wow two episodes in a row. BUT REALLY DAVID THAT HAIR?!
Joe looks stressed in the past
BARRY NO YOU CAN’T JUST WALK UP TO THEM
Oh shit!
LOL Bart
Weird thought but Barry needs running shoes, not those knockoff vans.
If he didn’t bring him there, how did they get there?
That’s not Joe, Barry!
Barry you’re the flash. How did you not dodge that?
Boy you are too big to hide behind some of those pillars
NO SINGH What happened to you!! Oh nothing happened.
Why did you pause Barry?
Where is he going now?
Chuck
Chuck you need to take lessons from Cisco in the costume design department.
Joe
I miss Joe.
This new house is nice.
Khione
Oh that was cool. How does she do that?
Miscellaneous
What the hell is this intro?
IT THAT EDDIE
I’m so confused.
Has there been a time jump?
Oh yeah!! It’s the episode about when he’s there the night his mom dies as an adult. The full circle episode.
What did past Joe pick up?
Oh. Yeah. What happened to Eddie? Why is he a doctor?
This isn’t Eddie. Who is this?
#the flash#final season#season 9#barry allen#iris west allen#khione#chester p. runk#chuck#allegra garcia#joe west#cecile horton#eobard thawne#eddie thawne#david singh#a new world#a new world part 1
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@CW_TheFlash instagram
#barry allen#iris west allen#joe west#cecile horton#khione#chester p. runk#allegra garcia#the flash#s9#dctvedit#poster#graphics edit
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“Imma try to get Grant and Candice into one stream” -Brandon
It’ll most likely be sometime next year, but even if it doesn’t end up happening I still love him for trying. ❤️
Also I really enjoyed the stream last weekend featuring Candice. 🥰
#the flash#the flash season 9#brandon mcknight#candice patton#grant gustin#iris west allen#barry allen#chester p. runk#westallen#grandice
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Candice Patton posted on her IG page February 23,2023
Final countdown 😵💫
#westallen#iris west allen#iris west#candice patton#the flash#grant gustin#chester p. runk#brandon mcknight#9yearsofwestallen#9yearsofcandice
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New season 9 poster, remixing a few of the recent ones.
#The Flash#Flash CW#Flash season 9#Caitlin Snow#Barry Allen#Joe West#Cecile Horton#Allegra Garcia#Chester P. Runk#Iris West#Whatsisname#Mark Blaine#Chillblaine
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So happy the flash is back but I’m also sad because I’m not ready to let the show go. This episode was fun and definitely teased more things to come for the rest of the season. This was definitely a great westallen episode.
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#the flash#cw the flash#barry allen#iris west#iris west allen#westallen#cisco ramon#caitlin snow#joe west#chester p. runk#arrowverse#dc tv shows#grant gustin#Youtube
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OK, if Cisco was still here he’d never let Chester get that costume off the drawing board
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Hi there! I hope you're doing alright! As someone who has no energy to continue The Flash. . . I'm sorry for asking this but. . . how is canon Chester supposedly like? And what changes you'd make for him if you were in charge of the show?
Just curious because he seems sorta cute from what I've seen of him. Which is weird because he's supposed to be one of comic!Wally's enemies. 😐😐😐
Yeah, Chester was a surprising choice to bring on the show to join the hero team. Especially considering the number of hero characters from the comics that had been wasted as one-off villains.
So I don't know a whole lot about Chester's comics version, but enough to consider show!Chester to be an in-name-only version of Chunk. Chunk was mentally ill and fat, so as a villain in the comics there's a lot of ableism and fatphobia tied up in his character. His powers tied him to a void that he could transport people and things and the transporter that merged with him required him to absorb a ton of mass to keep it from consuming him. He was one of Wally's villains, but one of the ones Wally helped reform. Most, if not all, of Chunk's victims were eventually returned from the void he sent them to, which might have been implied to have been the remains of the pre-crisis multiverse?
Show Chester is pretty adorable. He's introduced when an experiment gone wrong puts him in a coma and ties his consciousness and emotions to a black hole. It was surprising that there was no mention of lingering effects or powers afterwards, but he was a tech genius and eager to help out Team Flash in return for their having helped him. (They do finally mention he might have powers after all in the finale, but it's a last minute thing and not actually confirmed one way or another.) He has no canonically mentioned mental illnesses and is not fat either, so while they avoided invoking the same forms of ableism and fatphobia as the comics character... it was by erasing those traits which is just a different expression of ableism and fatphobia.
Since show!Chester is so different from comics!Chunk, it's really hard to think of them as being the same character. So I admit... I forget sometimes that Chester even has a comics counterpart.
As for the changes I'd make to him if I were writing for the show... first, I'd try to bring some more of his comics counterparts traits in. Mental health issues, maybe have him name drop his therapist from the comics, give him teleportation related powers as a result of his black hole experiment gone wrong... maybe as something he discovers by accident helping Iris, Kamilla, and David escape from the mirror-verse? That would have given him something important to do in the latter half of S6, where he was just kind of... there. It would have also had him fill the niche of teleporter left open after Cisco ditched his powers, opening up more options for the team to escape difficult circumstances down the road (since they apparently forgot all about the breach devices, *grumbles*). I would not have paired him up with Allegra, a relationship which never managed to shake off the impression the show runners were playing pair the spares with them. (They had such a lovely friendship but trying to make it romantic fell flat.)
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My thoughts on The Flash season 9 and the series finale.....
So an era has ended. Arrowverse finally breathed its last breath with The Flash series finale. Having followed the Arrowverse since the beginning, it feels like an end of a chapter of my life. I mean, The Flash started almost a decade ago and Arrowverse started more than a decade ago. So I have some thoughts on the series finale and season 9 as a whole.
The series finale was exactly what I thought it would be. It is a rushed end to a storyline which had plenty of promise to be better, and definitely required more time, but at least wasn't a misfire. At the very least, this deserved to be a 2 part finale because the Cobalt Blue storyline ended somewhere close to midway through the episode so the show can close out everything else. Reverse Flash, Zoom, Savitar, and Godspeed are just thrown in there for the sake of cameos. If this was spread across 2 episodes, we may have actually had a chance to really enjoy these villains being back. Also, it is just laughable how the villains are pitted against heroes that they have no connection to. Allegra against Thawne, Cecile against Godspeed, Khione against Zoom, and Nora against Savitar. I mean, if there was any common sense, Caitlin with Frosts' powers deserved to against Zoom, Wally should have faced up against Savitar, Cisco against Thawne, and Nora and Bart against Godspeed. But through a mixture of ridiculous storytelling and actor unavailability, we have to see weird standoffs that have no emotional weight, while Barry is off dealing with Eddie. They could have just had Barry take on all of them. Show how fast he is by fighting all of them simultaneously. But they don't do that. Instead Barry is on the defensive the entire episode, because he doesn't want to hurt Eddie, which I do understand. But it doesn't make for a great climax in the very final episode of the show. On the positive side, I am happy with how the last half of the episode wrapped up the show. Cisco, Wally, and Bart not being there is pretty ridiculous but, putting that aside, it was a fairly nice ending. One thing I was extremely glad about was that we got Caitlin back, alive and well. An OG character did not deserve to go out without fanfare, in a mad scientist suicidal experiment. The reunion of Barry and Caitlin was actually quite nice. It again makes it difficult to understand the decisions made with the character throughout the season, but I will mention that separately. I also do feel glad that they did mention that the cycle of violence between the positive and negative forces needed to stop and that Eddie did not descend into full blown villain. It was nice to see Jay Garrick back in the finale, and I liked the idea of Barry sharing his speed with others. It ended on a positive note so I don't feel angry about it, but it was an underwhelming and surprisingly small-scale finale for the Arrowverse and for The Flash.
As for season 9 as a whole, I honestly can't call it anything other than a gigantic disappointment. In quality, it probably ranks just only above season 7, and mainly because the season had 2 bangers in episode 9 and 10, and the final arc was interesting enough. But for a final season, there was a general feeling of 'what was Eric Wallace thinking' throughout the season. I feel like all of his worst impulses were executed during the season. There are so many decisions that left me perplexed. For example, I feel pretty comfortable in saying that the consensus is that people don't give a damn about Cecile and Chillblaine and them becoming heroes. Either Eric is completely deaf to those complaints or just didn't care, because he doubled down on giving them screen time during the 13 ep final season. I genuinely could not believe that we spent 1 out of 13 precious episodes on Cecile and Becky of all things. I had felt that Mark had improved as a character in season 8, but during the Red Death arc, Mark was back to his infuriating self. The relationship between Mark and Khione was so toxic for a good chunk of the season. The decision to have Khione was a bizarre one itself. I have read interviews about how Eric had a 2 season plan, which he had to cut and condense down to 13 episodes, and maybe he had grander ideas for Khione, but given that he knew it was 13 episodes, the fact that he still decided to introduce Khione into the final season was perplexing. I don't dislike the character, but we don't have any major emotional investment in her, other than the fact that she's sweet and naive. The show never gave us an explanation as to how Caitlin and Mark's cryogenic experiment failure led to a goddess being born. Whole thing made no sense. And its infuriating that Caitlin had the easiest layup for a character arc in the final season, that was ignored in order to have Khione. Caitlin ended season 8 having gone through severe trauma of Deathstorm and then losing Frost. The final season arc for her really should have been about her gaining Frosts' powers, learning how to deal with her grief, and then taking on the Frost mantle in team Flash as a tribute to her sister. Instead, they jumped over that and Caitlin returns to the living as someone who just has suddenly gotten over all of her trauma and grief.
The way the season was structured was bad. Easily, the final arc and the crossover episode was the best part of the season. But it was too rushed. It should have been the only arc for the season with only 13 episodes. Red Death was pretty ordinary and rushed itself. It was trying to be both a Red Death arc and a Rogues arc. Unfortunately, it failed at both. For one thing, the show has exhausted its list of best rogues. So instead of having Snart, Rory, Trickster, Weather Wizard etc... we were left with Hartley, Goldface, new Captain Boomerang, Murmur, Birch, Wozzeach, and Chillblaine. Now, Hartley is an enjoyable character, and Goldface is not too bad, but the rest is a pretty sad group of Rogues. And then we have Red Death, whose backstory probably deserved to be shown, and is instead just told. I like Javicia Leslie as Ryan on Batwoman, but she is awful as Red Death Ryan. Its the most cringeworthy villain performance on the show since Cicada and potentially worse. The only enjoyable parts were Barry working with Hartley and Goldface. That had some fun moments, and the premiere time loop episode was fun. But the arc overall should have been done away with, because it doesn't add much to the larger story, and the character beats could have been inserted into the Cobalt Blue story by expanding it. The three fillers are inexplicable in a final season. Maybe Grant had a clause to how much they could shoot, but it also goes to the choice of stories they decide to tell. I mean, I go back to the choice of having an entire episode about Cecile and Becky. This was very much a 'what was Eric Wallace' thinking episode. I definitely think that the choice to make Cecile a powered individual was the worst decision the show made and every season since season 4 has paid the price for it. Eric Wallace in particular has doubled down on it in his 4 seasons and it has affected the show poorly. The dreamer and Iris episode was odd because it genuinely felt like a Dreamer episode, which didn't make much sense in Flash context. Its not a terrible episode in isolation, but as an episode of The Flash final season, its a strange choice. Then there is the bottle episode with the inspectors. Again, this would be a ok filler for a normal full season, but an inexplicable choice for a final season of The Flash. We literally go 3 episodes without seeing Barry in The Flash uniform and barely using his powers.
The two episodes that followed the interlude were the best of the season. The crossover was a lot of fun. Unlike the Dreamer crossover, it felt like a necessary episode of The Flash because it filled some important arcs for Barry and Wally, while also giving a nice sendoff to Oliver and Diggle. Bloodwork is easily the best new villain of the Eric Wallace era and it was fun to have him around. Also was good to see that Team Flash finally learned about the multiverse. It was good to see Barry acknowledge his grief about the people he lost over the years and Wally acknowledging that he hasn't found the peace he has looked for since, and also him mourning for Jesse. All the Barry and Oliver interactions were great. We got a classic Barry and Oliver bar scene, with a nice dialogue callback to their meeting in The Flash pilot. Also, it was good to have Diggle be able to say goodbye to Oliver, after he was unable to both times during Crisis. Episode 10 was an absolute banger. Definitely in my top 10 episodes of the series. I think this episode did an excellent job bringing the series full circle and having Barry finally come to terms with what happened to his parents. All the interactions between Barry and his parents in the past, as well as his interactions with Thawne and Joe were excellent. It was another excellent showcase for Grant Gustin. Great to see Matt Letscher back one last time. The remaining 3 episode of the Cobalt Blue arc are decent, if somewhat underwhelming. The highlight of this arc was definitely having Rick Cosnett returning as Eddie. He definitely has legitimate grievances against Barry and his return and turn was handled pretty well. Unfortunately, Barry and Iris got sidelined through a big chunk of the episodes. Iris is in labor for most of the final 3 episodes, therefore confined to a bed. Barry is going through time. When the focus is on Barry and Eddie and dealing with whoever is possessed with the negative speed force, the content is good, but the show wants to force in Cecile as a superhero and dealing with not visiting her family much in the future, for no reason at all. I mean, who is asking for that. I'm not big on Allegra and Chester, but they really have nothing to do all season apart from their romance. There could have been some development for them instead. It would have been better than so much Cecile and Chillblaine stuff. As I mentioned, the finale was underwhelming, given it was a series finale. It doesn't help that team Flash is reduced to the C team at this point. The A team was gone with no Wells, Cisco, Caitlin, or Joe. Even the B team of people like Frost, Ralph, and Wally are no longer there. So we are left with the least interesting version of team Flash. Thankfully we do have Nora, who is a delight, although again, the fact that there is no Bart is weird. In general, I found it odd that they could not make scheduling work to have important cast members like Keynan, Jordan, and especially Carlos, show up, even if briefly and remotely, given they knew that this was the final season and was only 13 episodes. Thankfully Tom Cavanaugh appears both as Thawne and Timeless Wells. He did seem to have some of the best lines in the finale, roasting Eddie, Zoom, Chester, and Allegra.
All in all, season 9 was disappointing and Eric Wallace was a big letdown as a showrunner. He came off as a guy who talked a lot and had good ideas, but could not execute. He mentioned all the storylines he couldn't do and they all sounded better than most of the stuff he did this season. I will still say that I found season 6 and 8 to be pretty solid, but seasons 7 and 9 were very ordinary. Season 9 was only saved from being on the bottom due to a decent final 5 episode run. Overall, a 4/10 at best.
For the show, I have stuck with it through thick and thin. While writing has not been particularly good at times, the core cast members have always been great. Grant Gustin has been a terrific Barry Allen throughout. He will always be my Barry Allen. Candice Patton as Iris, though written unevenly, was a strong performer. Danielle Panabaker played several different characters over the course of the show and she was very likable as all of them. Tom Cavanaugh, who appeared every season, was the show's X factor for most of the show. Carlos Valdes was a fan favorite and always likable. Jesse L. Martin was the heart of the show during the peak seasons. They eventually ran out of good material for him but I loved him till the end. There have been a lot of cast members and characters that have come and gone, but definitely the people I mentioned above were the core of they show. People like Rick, Keiynan, Hartley Sawyer, Tom Felton etc... all made for fun additions. I would say, I enjoyed 7 out 9 seasons, which is a good success rate overall. I will miss the show, because it was appointment viewing for me. 184 episodes is something to be proud of. It is the last of long running superhero tv shows because I don't foresee a tv landscape which will be conducive to 23 episode seasons running for 8-9 seasons for comic book shows. Outside of Smallville, I can't recall any other superhero show that has run longer. As for the Arrowverse, despite many issues with writing, there is no doubt that it was a unique period to have such a big franchise on broadcast television and really popularized the crossover culture. Kudos to all the creators behind all the various shows and kudos to Greg Berlanti.
#the flash#grant gustin#barry allen#candice patton#iris west#tom cavanagh#reverse flash#jesse l martin#joe west#danielle panabaker#caitlin snow#eobard thawne#allegra garcia#chester p. runk#brandon mcknight#danielle nicolet#cecile horton#kayla compton#chillblaine#khione#red death#hartley rathaway#javicia leslie#rick cosnett#eddie thawne#cobalt blue#carlos valdes#cisco ramon#keiynan lonsdale#wally west
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LOOK AT THEY ALL! I'M SO IN LOVE WITH THIS SCENE! 🕺🎶💃😍✨
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