#chapter 3 theory

[lavendersartistry]

Could Ollie be Boogie Bot?

I think this type of theory can't be too far off.

To start: Neither Boogie Bot or Ollie are shown with a active appearance within the game. We only know of Boogie Bot because of his Chapter 2 cutout. Ollie also doesn't have a active appearance physically but uses the phone to communicate with the Player.

And a confirmation:

Ollie is NOT Hoppy.

Hoppy has a more lighter green while Ollie has a dark, vibrant green. Like a neon green.

When I first saw this difference, I looked up what other toys that were green that could be acceptable as a candidate to being Ollie.

And that can be Boogie Bot.

Boogie Bot has that vibrant green as his main color palette, Ollie's color is similar to that.

And think about how Ollie is able to be trusted yet never showing what he looks like or even how he is able to give keys to the Player throughout Chapter 3.

Machinery. Robot work.

You couldn't say the Prototype is Ollie because 1: We don't have its official identity color for subtitles, 2: Poppy wouldn't even want to be in contact with the Prototype (yeah she could be double-crossing but she sounds genuine a bit about Kissy being attacked) nor trust it due to the factory massacre, and 3: Prototype could most likely be someone else like Elliot Ludwig.

Also, from the cutout, Boogie Bot says: "Am I a real boy?" It could mean that a child was used and inner conflicting with what they truly are.

My best guess is that Ollie was a successful child experiment Poppy knew about that was assigned to Boogie Bot and can now easily access to all machines and devices to be a guide for the Player.

[qwakque]

Say Goodbye To Yesterday my Friend

[iotakaptur0]

What if there were more Runes in DELTARUNE, for every single letter of the Greek alphabet?

[poppiesbloodandgore]

"The Prototype will save us."

DEEP SLEEP 2024 | Poppy Playtime: Chapter 3

[templegate]

Unlocked the chapter 3 extra scene without knowing what it was. But i made an interesting observation about ms. Tsumugi here. i think i might've found the mastermind guys

[tommdale]

Poppy Playtime Theory

(Chapter 3 Spoilers Ahead)

I think that whoever we play as was attacked by Huggy Wuggy during the Hour of Joy

I mean think about it:

(Chapter 3 photo spoilers below)

Whoever we play as is so scared of Huggy Wuggy, while hallucinating (in Home Sweet Home, the gas-induced dream right after entering) we came up with the much scarier version of him, indiciating that he scares us more than the others (because why wasn't it mommy or even catnap in the dream?)

And in the second dream (after being knocked down by CatNap towards the end), we hear the haunting screams of people being murdered during the Hour of Joy while we look at Huggy Wuggy, then the blocks he stands on (the ones that spell his name from Chapter 1)

The Hour of Joy tape that Poppy shows us reveals that he lept from his stand to attack people, meaning that we'd associate the empty stand with the Hour of Joy if we were there for it, right?

AND it's already confirmed that we worked there, with Mommy AND Ms. Delight saying they remembered us. And on top of all that, Ms. Delight thought we were dead. She tells us she remebers us then asks "How are you alive?"

My general theory for the player is that we worked closely with Elliot Ludwig, enough to know what was going on to be haunted by everything that happened, and close enough to Elliot to have remembered the news report about him in our poppy gas induced fever dream

I believe we were attacked by Huggy during the hour of joy and was somehow the sole survivor, thus making our way back to the facilty, haunted with survivor's guilt, wanting to find anyone that survived

If you have any alt theories please tell me :] I am sick and rotting with the release of Chapter 3

[strale-light]

OML IM ABOUT TO CRYYYY

Stop Asugiri you can't!!!

PLEASE NO!!!

[demodraws0606]

Guys...I think Whit is the culprit.

Sorry guys this is gonna be a long one

You know I'm a big believe of Whit mastermind theory and depending on how the trial goes he could still be the mastermind despite being the culprit but uhm...

Mf has like an 80 pourcent chance of being the culprit

My theory of Levi being the culprit kinda has went down the drain though i'm not really that upset about it because it was admitidely the most generic route.

I still do not buy for a second Eden is the culprit mainly because it contradicts a lot of her behaviors and also is only really based on one piece of evidence that could be explained by something else.

I think the most credible option to me right now, is Whit, especially because with how certain things are laid out for us we can actually make out a concrete motive for why Whit would do this.

I'm gonna write down what I think and explain why I believe Whit is most likely the culprit (also i'll deal with a couple of holes and explain why the theory still works alongside them) and also i'll use a couple of speculations made by other people as well

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I think it's known by everyone that the way Whit's secret was revealed is extremely strange, for like two reasons.

One, it means that it's impossible for anyone (including Whit himself, we'll get into that later) to have known what Whit's secret was, or to confirm it with certainty in the trial. We only have Whit's word for it.

Second, Whit takes a very strange amount of time until saying what secret he has, like right after Hu denied to say which secret she has. Which is extremely weird because if his life was so uneventful wouldn't he have managed to pick out a secret as blatant as this.

I thought this would be meant as a red herring to put suspicions on Whit however with Levi revealing his secret and this loose thread still not being addressed, I think it has to be important to the case at hand.

Now, despite people pointing this out every analysis that tries to handle this kinda goes into a brick wall because it immediatly assumes that Whit is lying about the dead mother secret being his. However there's too much pointing towards Whit having the dead mom secret.

No, I think we're going about this the wrong way. It's not about us not knowing what Whit's secret was, it's that Whit had no idea what secret actually was his

In fact that's mentionned before trial on how Whit just didn't know WHAT his secret even was, and no one could really tell him what it was because Rose threw it away

But that's weird right ? You would think Whit would know that his dead mother would be the likely secret, you could argue he just didn't want to share with everyone but that still doesn't explain the strange amount of time until he revealed he had Rose's secret.

And if he didn't want to share that his mom was dead, why did he let everyone the opportunity to say if they had his secret and to spill the beans...

Unless things are more complicated than just Whit having a dead mom, after all if it was just that wouldn't he have known immediatly that was his secret ? After all Teruko had the same issue as well as she didn't know what her secret could actually even be.

You could argue that I put my back against the wall here. If Whit not knowing his secret was his motive as to why he commited the murder then why did he let a bunch of people the opportunity to air out a potentially incriminating secret. Wouldn't that mean he wasn't worried about it ?

However, you have to keep in mind Whit had no idea how bad the secrets were, the only secrets that was revealed was J's which in retrospect of other secrets seemed like a much lighter one.

You could argue "Well Whit had David's secret which was pretty bad" however despite how bad that secret was it was also very vague and since Whit didn't know how much about David it doesn't really mean much on how deep the secrets were.

Considering Whit's personality as well, it was possible he was in denial or some deeper reason as to why he wasn't thinking about it. "Bitter things need to go down the drain" and all that.

In fact Whit was one of the first ones to say they shouldn't reveal their secret before J's secret was immediatly revealed.

I also don't think Whit being in denial has to be rooted in logic either (especially with how inconcistent he seems to be about the secrets), the murder was commited right before the deadline and although there was planning behind it, it was still a last minute decision (aka not done immediatly during the day of the motive reveal). You could argue pressure got to him or he overthought it as it became increasingly clear how much deeper the secrets went and how much the people who set this game up knew about them (something Whit investigated himself).

I think the way Whit acted about the secrets is too contradictory to really use any of what he says as actual evidence against the secrets not being his motive basically.

Now, let's go into the other point and how it works with the potential motive, the speculation that Arei was waterboarded.

Yeah, this seems to hint heavily that this is what happened and Arei's actual cause of death would be by drowning instead of strangulation like expected.

But why not strangulation ?? Why do a technique that is much harder to kill Arei, unless they were trying to get something out of drowning her. I mean we don't technically know if it was actual waterboarding but considering how planned this murder was and how we do actually have pieces of clothing that would serve for waterboarding, it seems to be likely.

(I'm not exactly sure how it stuck together with the starch afterwards but considering how the playground's ventilation works it's possible it dried up quickly) (There's also Arei's missing glove if you don't believe Teruko and Hu's clothing where used for it)

There's also no reason to drown her instead of strangling her with the rope unless there was another justification for it. But the episode actively goes out of it's way to say that there probably wasn't an attempt at tricking people into thinking the murder happened during 7:30 PM.

Anyways, why would the culprit waterboard Arei then ??? Clearly this means they were trying to get information out of her...

Which makes 0 sense unless it was Whit who would at least have a small justification for it, aka him not knowing what his secret is. I do admit it is a bit blurry on what type of information Whit would've truly wanted or why he did this before just killing her. However out of anyone (that already isn't pretty much confirmed innocent) it would only make sense for it to be him.

Now onto other stuff unrelated to the secret thing, like how unhelpful Whit has been this trial to a suspicious degree. AKA :

-Trying to distract away from the letter framing Eden and then just throwing her under the bus immediatly when he's questioned about it.

-Refusing to reveal David's secret

-Coincidentally having an excuse for not seeing Arei's body swaying

Now all of these could be argued to be in character reasons, after all didn't he do something like that chapter 1 with Charles (kind of). However this is a new level of trial interferance that really isn't justifiable at a certain point.

You could argue "well wouldn't talking about the note and David's secret be useful to make them seem guilty"' and while that'd be right to an extent. However everytime Whit witholds something like with Eden and David, he seems to cave eventually so the only thing he has achieved in this trial so far is to stall for time. Which could potentially be intentional if he's the culprit.

Now that I've kinda covered the major points, here are a list of suspicious things, mostly things that Whit knew before I get to my final point (how this would fit the narrative this chapter).

(I do wanna say most of this things isn't technically necessary info that the culprit needed to know but it definitely helps).

Whit was present during Teruko and Hu changing, meaning he would have known about their old clothes and could have found out where to get them.

Whit was present during the fight in the cafeteria, which is when Arei demanded to have her rope thrown away leading to Mono-TV putting it in storage

(Eden was busy helping J and Arturo so only Teruko, Charles and Whit could've known this information by listening in)

Whit also is the reason David is in the relaxation room leading to his conversation with Arei although idk how much of that would even possibly be planned or how that would help him, still important to note though.

There is probably more I could say however I want to get to my last point, I do think Whit being the culprit fits this case more than anyone else.

I know the question of the tape is still unanswered, if Eden did take it wouldn't that mean she is the culprit ? Well I don't think so but overall I just don't think this one singular piece of evidence is enough to say Eden's the culprit especially if we look at the bigger picture.

I'm probably just repeating the same things people probably have heard already but Eden committing such a gruesome murder for pratically no motive at all (outside getting out but it would make the secret motive useless) just doesn't really make sense.

However it is true that from what the title of this chapter suggests "all that glitters (is not gold)", it would mean a character isn't as innocent/good as they seem.

But wouldn't that title make more sense with Whit ?

Eden and Whit both are seemingly the positive vibes character of the cast, both being seemingly "normal". However Whit's positivity is a lot more toxic than Eden's, cracking jokes at innapropriate time and seeming to not let himself show even negative emotions (contrary to Eden who has let herself be upset multiple times).

Narratively speaking, Whit being the culprit, would put Charles in a similar situation to Teruko perhaps deepening their bond further without having Teruko going through a regression arc (she was way closer to Eden than she was with Whit).

It would allow Eden's message to not be lost/contradicted while also going with the apparent theme of the chapter that things aren't as they seem.

And also "all that glitters is not gold" would be a very smart saying for Whit, the one who died his hair blond (would be a very fun double meaning)

[ourg0dsal]

Knowing our luck so far, Alecto the Ninth is gonna open with Harrow looking at Gideon, for the first time in two books, having a brain anuerym and then immediately dying, because the lobotomy was still in effect and everyone forgot.

(Then Gideon dies trying to kill Alecto obvi)

[accirax]

last night i had a dream that it was Friday, and i was watching Chapter 2 Episode 15. it was nearing the end of the episode, and Teruko had accused Ace in the Closing Argument. however, Ace was nonstop arguing with MonoTV that he didn't do it and that everyone had it all wrong. MonoTV laughed cryptically, and the episode ended on the cliffhanger...

...that MonoTV was about to introduce Ada Tobisa, Eden's secret twin sister, as the seventeenth student in the killing game.

no, i don't know what role Ada would have had in the murder.

earlier in the dream episode, we had seen the left photo as its own CG, and were led to believe that it was a photo of Eden as a baby (i have no idea how this came up in the Trial). however, the end stinger was showing the CG with the two of them, and that the left picture was actually Ada all along.

anyways, call me the Ultimate Fortune Teller, because i'm pretty sure i've foreseen exactly what's going to happen in Friday's episode drop 😎

[darkestcorners]

* my followers expressing their theories and concerns about how Polarity will end and toxicity of the MC and JK’s relationship, think pieces of JK’s personality and possible foreshadowing of what’s to come, his endless mommy issues, questions about Hoseok and how much of a bitch Eunji is, how much they wish MC would free herself and genuine concern over her well-being ect*

me trying to decide which color to make the kitchen island and how to describe the floor tiles:

[lavendersartistry]

I'm currently thinking way too hard on this but I have a theory for Poppy Playtime

Stella is the Protagonist

I have this theory because let's all think about this:

She cared a lot for the kids

She was highly unaware of the experimentations (Chapt. 3 VHS)

She's a higher up

I mainly look back to the VHS because Stella was expecting for a adoption file, NOT a experimentation file for the kid that was adopted. Also she was in shock about finding out about what actually goes on in the factory

So maybe Stella, after getting this realization, called in sick as a way to be far away from the factory up until the Hour of Joy

Looks like I'm changing the worker protagonist for Matron in the Playhouse

[radiant-vulpine]

WHO IS THE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 3? [Deltarune Speculation]

Been a while since my last little theory image, and with the Newsletter's release and the hidden things in both the SVN and the Valentines Cards, I wanted to make a definitive and new theory about the possible candidates and traits of a SB for CH3! This is all subjective, so don't worry or feel discouraged if your theory isn't accounted for or contradicted!

[deltarunetheorydump]

DELTARUNE - Debunking the "FRIEND"

Something I've noticed after being in deltarune fandom spaces after Chapter 2 is that there's a pretty big fixation on the "FRIEND", which has always seemed a bit... off, to me? But, based on a few recent findings I feel very confident in saying that the "FRIEND" is, beyond a reasonable doubt, not an actual new character. (Afterthoughts under the read more)

So, here are my afterthoughts:

Calling this a "theory" is a little disingenuous seeing as most of it is just compiled 'objective' information, but I really hope that people begin to understand the nature of the basement smile a little more. This is kind of an image I put together at like 5 AM after a night of theorizing with like 3 people on discord so it might be a little rough around the edges. Obviously the "angry" parts of this were heavily exaggerated for comedic effect, but there are a quite a lot of theories based on the idea of the "FRIEND" being a character that exists, and a... LOT of fanworks, but it kind of just distracts from ACTUAL mysteries in UTDR that could be being solved or at least discussed.

It's a little bizarre looking back and seeing this sort of mythos built around the "FRIEND", stuff like it being a cheshire cat, it being Mike somehow, and it being heavily relevant in the future chapters of deltarune. Stuff like the friend being a "cheshire cat character" or even existing isn't really mentioned at all in deltarune and has quite a fragile basis when you look at it without already assuming it's a character, but people have clung to this idea and projected these ideas onto official content (cough cough mystery letter) to the point where I think the future chapter releases are going to be very jarring for people who EXPECT an answer to a mystery that doesn't really exist.

Anyways, I'm not too good at ending these things but I'll cut off my ramblings here.

[geistboy1]

concepts for a chapter 3 secret boss that i was thinking about

[obscuretobyfox]

Re previous ask about the “Gaster” valentine:

The all caps is consistent with both the being that talks to you at the opening of the game, and whoever took over Toby’s Twitter account. (Ignoring kanji stuff I’m not an expert)

This seems pretty solid Gaster evidence to me tbh if you think that Gaster was the person who did the other two things

The all caps was initially a giveaway, yes. However, many characters speak in all caps throughout Deltarune and Undertale so we can't immediately assume it's Gaster. Additionally, take a look at the punctuation and prose used throughout the Valentine compared to the messages from the beginning of Deltarune and other places.

A small summary of the image: Images of the disembodied voice throughout Deltarune (believed to be Gaster) shown to be using correct grammar and serious prose throughout their dialogue. Meanwhile, the secret valentine shows a fairly silly demanor and also signs off with "GOOD BY!", what seems to be an intentional spelling error/typing quirk (In the same vein as previous secret bosses.)

The significance of the figure mentioning "Delta Rune" has also been a factor in attempting to tie it to Gaster, however keep in mind that the "Delta Rune" is a symbol heavily used throughout Undertale and Deltarune, meant to symbolize an ancient legend. The figure is likely aware of the prophecy rather than their inclusion in a game. The grammar certainly makes it seem as if they're referring to the game, however note that this character perhaps doesn't always speak with the best of grammar.