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𓈒ㅤᛝ ◟ Little!Scott hcs 🍼
Cont ; pullups , bottles , pacifiers
🥏 ─ Regresses around 3-5
🥏 ─ Sometimes pet regresses to a puppy depending on how he feels
🥏 ─ Jean or Charles take care of him when he's little interchangeably
🥏 ─ He gets upset easier than he normally would when he's regressed; tantrums ensue
🥏 ─ Has a little stuffed puppy he carries around with him named Butterscotch
🥏 ─ Logan and Scott bickering isn't uncommon, but when they're both feeling little? Someone needs to be prepared to pull them apart
🥏 ─ He has playdates with Logan alot, but Scott will end up crying at some point because Logan stole one of his toys or started chewing on his things
🥏 ─ Him and Logan HAVE to have the same toy, typically leading to tug of wars or Logan just wanting to chew on whatever Scott is playing with
🥏 ─ They cuddle alot though when it's naptime, plus Logan is alot sleepier than Scott (me) and sometimes leans against him while he's playing and dozes off
🥏 ─ Very energetic little and hates naptime and has to be bribed just about every time
🥏 ─ Calls Jean "Jeanie" or "Mama" and Charles is "Baba"
🥏 ─ Has to have his pacifier with him at all times
🥏 ─ The only way to get him to stop running circles around everyone or being hyper is with a bottle of strawberry milk and having Octonauts on TV
🥏 ─ He has accidents when he's small alot and forgets to go to the bathroom or holds it to long when he wants to play, Charles has a stash of pullups for him and Jean knows where they are too
🥏 ─ Fussy about wearing his glasses and has to be supervised so he doesn't take them off
#agere little#agere positivity#little space#agerespace#sfw littlespace#sfw agere#sfw blog#sfw little blog#agere blog#sfw little one#sfw interaction only#sfw#x men agere#x men movies#x men#little!scott#cg!jean#cg!charles#logan wolverine#wolverine#logan howlett#little!logan#little logan#little logan mention#scott summers#cyclops
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A while ago I did a set of MILGRAM x DRDT drawings, so I decided to post them here as well, since most of my art deals in screenshot redraws (like the TDLOSK au I did)
#drdt#danganronpa despair time#nico hakobyan#hu jing#ace markey#arei nageishi#david chiem#eden tobisa#teruko tawaki#mai akasaki#min jeung#charles cuevas#xander matthews#milgram#the milgram project#art#fanart#arei’s appearance is based on that cg of her with her sisters btw#and that’s elliot’s coat#and the girls in xanders sketches are diana and mai
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Drdt spoilers?
it's not Ace it's not Ace it's not Ace theres no way it's Ace nuh uh it can't be him because uhm because he's silly
#drdt spoilers#drdt#danganronpa despair time#Just as i was starting to get intrigued on his character.... sighhs...#Its not Eden either its a secret third person called the boogieman#Please#At least Charles is still ok....#save me save me save me#Whyyyy whyyyy#Ace Markey nation is losing so hard rn...#Loved the CGs btw#Yuri won#Drdt was so wrong for pitting the gay and the lesbian against eachother in the suspect pool... smh#slash jay
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Little Raven x CG Charles
Set during X-Men: First Class. Charles has been busy with the other mutants but Raven can’t sleep without her Dada.
Word count: 1048
Not edited… sorry guys
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Raven couldn’t sleep. Her mind was racing a million miles a minute. Her body ached from training and her mind ached from the effort it took to not be herself all the time. She liked it this way, she reminded herself, it was better when she looked like this. But it didn’t feel better now. She felt small and scared, she just wanted her Papa. She knew she was supposed to be asleep but sleep kept running leaps and bounds ahead of her. Moira had tucked her to bed about an hour ago, usually Charles would do it but he was busy helping the others train. He was always busy these days. Once upon a time he would’ve tucked her in with a bottle and a story but now she had to get herself off to sleep like a big girl. It felt impossible. She wants to complain though, Moira was very nice for putting her to bed, she’d even braided her hair for her. Still, there was only one way she’d ever been able to fall asleep soundly and that was with Charles. She felt guilty, needing him so much. But everyone needed him now. And he’d been her’s first. Anxiously she grabbed her pacifier and Teddy in her fists before slipping out of bed. Part of her ached to run to Charles so the monsters under the bed wouldn’t grab her but the other part knew that she was the only monster in the room. Far more composed than if she had run, Raven made her way out of her bedroom. She found Charles in front of the fireplace, playing a game of chess with Erik. She felt really anxious now, so small compared to the two men. She shuffled her weight anxiously from foot to foot, hovering in the hallway.
“Raven?” Charles questioned as he looked up from his game, noticing her nervous figure in the door. “Didn't Moira put you to bed?”
“She did…” Raven whispered, looking down. “Couldn’t sleep, needed Dada…” she admired quietly. She clutched her Teddy to her chest and tightened her hand around her pacifier. Erik was watching her now too, it unsettled her a bit but really all she could focus on was Charles.
“Come here, darling,” Charles sighed, pushing back his chair and inviting her onto his lap. Raven smiled contentedly, hurrying across the room and climbing into his lap. It felt like the safest place in the world, with Charles’ arms around her and the soft lick of the fire warming her face. She slipped her pacifier into her mouth, feeling only the smallest bit of apprehension about being so small out in the open. On one hand she knew she should be big because it was easier for everyone but on the other she knew that here, where everyone was different, this part of her was most accepted. Charles placed a gentle hand over her hair, tucking her head against his chest. The soft, rythmic sound of his heartbeat was steady and calming. Charles continued to play the game around her, Erik wordlessly joining in again. She tried to follow along with their moves but it didn’t make much sense to her. It was ok, she didn’t have to think about big things when Charles was holding her. She clutched Charles’ shirt in her hand, fiddling with the soft fabric. She was tired, exhausted, and everything hurt. But Charles was rubbing his hand in soft circles on her back and he smelt like fresh linen and firewood so things weren’t too bad.
After he’d finished his game (he won) Charles adjusted Raven on his lap. “Ready for bed now darling?” She hummed, nuzzling against him.
“Bottle?” She requested shyly, very aware that Erik could hear them too.
“Yeah, we can get a bottle. Why don’t you hop to bed now, I’ll be with you in just a moment.” Raven nodded, climbing off his lap and heading to her room. Possibly the best part of the house was how much space there was, enough for her to have a seperate room when she was big and little. Her little room, her favorite room, was big and decorated for a child. There was a shelf filled with all the books Charles had bought her, a crate for her toys and a wardrobe specifically for clothes she liked when she was little. The bed was arguably her favourite part of the room, with a tall canopy and draping, white, chiffon curtains from each corner. When she was in her bed, curtains pulled around her, it felt like all the scary parts of the world couldn’t touch her.
Only a few minutes later Charles came in, holding a bottle in his hand. Raven smiled excitedly, reaching out for the warm bottle as he poked his head through the curtains. Charles handed it to her and she began drinking immediately. She could taste a bit of syrup that had been mixed into her drink which was nice, Charles only added syrup on very special occasions. He climbed in with her, slipping his shoes off over the edge and allowing her to curl up against his side. “I’m sorry if I haven’t been taking very good care of you recently, Raven,” Charles frowned. He tightened his arms around Raven.
“‘S ok,” she shrugged. “You gots to save the world.” She looked up at Charles with wide innocent eyes which truly believed he’d be the one to save them all. Charles wasn’t sure how he felt about that, the unwavering faith she had in him. Raven reached her hand up to fiddle with the buttons of his dress shirt and Charles gently smoothed out the hair which had escaped from her plaits.
“How about a story?” He suggested. Raven nodded, suckling softly on her bottle. Charles reached over to her bedside table, grabbing the copy of Charlotte’s Web which they’d been reading. As Charles read softly Raven was lulled into a peaceful rest. He carefully pulled her bottle away from her face, tugged the blankets up over her shoulders and pressed her teddy in her arms before slipping out of the bed. “Good night Raven,” he whispered softly with a kiss to the top of her head before slipping out of the room.
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triple threat end card but with the honkai inpact trio. and also bald TT.
#the henry stickmin collection#thsc#honkai impact#bronya zaychik#kiana kaslana#raiden mei#do i tag. the thsc trio for this. i mean they are here as bald as they can be#i guess.#charles calvin#henry stickmin#ellie rose#a-u edit stuff#note that i edited them based on their poses/expressions this does NOT mean bronya = charles or mei = ellie cuz#characters flip around a lot in my edits there is no set standard except for maybe like one lr two characters and even then.#ok anyway i mainly edited this with the honkai trio cuz. they dont interact enough in the story.#like its funny when you think about it but like they separate in the early chapters and only reunite completely in the final arc of part 1.#and i wish there was more. just like how i wish the tt dynamic was more fleshed out#theyre nice and all. just. nothing for me to chew on#ok rant over#i actually am currently redrawing the end cards in the same vein as honkai cgs i jist needed to get this out of my system#i was also highly considering leaving kiana bald. jsut like her great-grandpa^44 kevin.
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culling games arc in general is interesting to me because I enjoy most of the fights but the way they’re patched together without much overlap made it feel more awkward in execution. Which is why I really enjoyed when the characters met up (e.g. yuuji and megumi, panda and Hakari, maki and kamo, etc). everything felt more connected with nice character interactions
#idk if yuki onwards still counts as the culling games arc since we moved from the individual colony fights#but the only times I actually was mad was at tsumikis fight lol (and the conclusion of yuki)#in the colonies yuutas fight bored me tbh but otherwise I liked most of them. didn’t really care for Reggie or Charles either#overall still liked the arc—I need kashimo and hakari fight in the anime already I’ll never get over it#Oh-and I think the military subplot could’ve been shortened without having to go much into HOW kenjaku convinced them#🤕 on an aside I’ll feel better about the yuki fighr if we get more on her research or any flashbacks. I’m desperate#jjk spoilers#Charles is like the cg equivalent of the guy in shibuya who had the miracles technique
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wondering how we went from 🥺💗 cutie lil friendzoned boy charlie 🥺💗 in the first birthday cg to whatEVER THE FUCK IS THE SECOND PIC
#this has been sitting in my drafts for a while#i just happened to see the newest bday cg and i legit got on my knees and yelled#this boy gets hornier in every new cg i'm going feral#ikemen vampire#ikevamp#ikevamp charles
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I swear if I see one more thirsty post about my dad I may actually comment genocide
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I'm fine if szll doesn't win the homoerotic betrayals polls, but I would be remiss not to at least try submitting a context writeup for them
#mine musings#code geass is a hot mess but i'm afraid people might only remember suzaku selling lelouch out to charles when#they've been stabbing each other in the back LONG BEFORE THAT HAPPENED#some of them are 'perceived' betrayals and some are like 'accidental but i'll roll with anyway and dig that knife in further'#which i think still counts because they all led to the selling out at the end of R1#and also. of course i won't let everyone forget THE julius kingsley#and the poetry in how all those betrayals led to them eventually swearing loyalty to each other#and playing out the rest of their tragedy#sorry i'm still not over szll apparently...........#liveblogging cg
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I did my best to limit how many I put on here. But this is as few as I can muster 😮💨
Absolute favorite is hotdog Newt, and that’s going against cheeky Arthur. That is a feat, believe you me. I didn’t get cheeky Arthur by himself (rip) but I at least always preferred dutch bros to starbucks 🤙 Kitsune purrr purrrrrr awoooga. Gil’s is Emma saying “you suck” which made me smile, and gaaahhh that scene (also seeing a suitor’s back kinda 👀). The Charles and Clavis ones are just beautiful, and look at them being thigh-guys 👏
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#i really did have to restrain myself 😅#there are a few vlad ones (he’s pretty af so makes sense)#shingen and kenshin battling together#that one kicho one where he’s a’smirkin#clavis’ tummy showing one (that was my first 5-star from an event 🥹)#newt has so many bangers it’s unreal#rio holding the kitchen knifes like he’s wolverine 😭 it took me far too long to realize that’s his equivalent to the sword cgs#newt is cute#arthur my beloved#pretty kitsune#gil doing gil things#qt charles#clavis my prince
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Caregiver Charles Xavier Stimboard!!
☕ 🐶 📔 | ☕ 🐶 📔 | ☕ 🐶 📔
🌼 media: x-men
🐝 age appropriate? depends! it's rated PG13 due to violence but is quite a fun watch for most ages regardless. check any warnings and remember, it's always okay to turn something off if it isn't for you! <3
🍯 rqd by: @phantomhivestims
🌻 note: he would be suchhhh a good cg i know it. he'd have so many nicknames and would have so many worksheets for you to do if you got bored!!
#playtime stims#playtime answers#sfw agere#age regressor#agere blog#age regression#sfw agedre#sfw interaction only#agedre#sfw age regression#sfw agedre blog#agedre blog#agere sfw#agedre sfw#agere stimboard#agedre stimboard#x men#xmen agere#charles xavier#agere caregiver#caregiver stimboard
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Watching X-Men: First Class and hear me out guys - Little Raven and Cg Charles - please tell me someone else understands this 😭
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X-Men: Evolution CG Storm and Regressor Wolverine headcanons
When Logan comes back from a solo mission he always tries not to let himself regress because he worries the kids will see, he likes to keep his regression as private as possible and doesn’t want to lose the kids’ respect
Ororo will meet him after missions to see how he is doing, if he’s trying not to regress, she’ll use subtle language to help him slip into headspace and then walk with him back to one of their rooms for some baby time, if he’ll let her
Ororo will whisper ask Logan if he went potty before they leave because he might have an accident if he slips
Ororo tries to convince Logan to wear a pull-up when they go out while he’s between headspaces, Logan begrudgingly agrees most of the time because it’s slightly less embarrassing than an accident
Kitty saw Ororo leave Logan’s room early one morning after she spent the night helping him regress, a rumor started about them dating that same day, they were extra careful for a while bc they didn’t want anyone accidentally finding out while trying catch them doing coupley things
Logan doesn’t like to eat his veggies, but he always wants whatever Ororo is eating, so Ororo has a system. O: “Do you want any veggies, Little One?” L: “No!” O: “Okay.” *Gives herself extra vegetables* L: “Mama, I have some, please?” Much easier than arguing about how he needs to eat his vegetables
Ororo has to carry a bag with her everywhere they go, not just for Logan’s baby stuff like changing supplies, sippy cup, etc, but to hold all the rocks and sticks he gives her while they’re outside
Logan has “mastered” secretly regressing, sitting silently at the breakfast table, pretending to read a news paper while playing Blue’s Clues songs in him head, most of the kids already try not to bother his so early in the morning so might as well take advantage of it if he slips
Ororo keeps little snacks and small toys on her for when Logan slips, so she can make sure he eats and give him something to do subtly until they can get somewhere safe and/or private for him to properly regress
Lots of nature walks while the kids are at school and they don’t have any x-men business to take care of
Logan love to run around the ground and climb trees
Ororo watches him play and sometimes will indulge him in making it rain so he can play in the mud and stomp in puddles
Logan and Ororo will snuggle and watch movies in the common areas sometime while the kids are at school. They don’t do it often because sometimes the kids are still in and out of the house through out the day anyway
The only other people who know are Charles and Hank. They’ve had close calls with Jean and have suspected that maybe she knows but hasn’t said anything
#agere#age regression#fandom agere#marvel agere#x men evolution agere#x men agere#regressor wolverine#regressor logan howlett#regressor james howlett#caregiver storm#caregiver ororo munroe
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hehe. hehehe. HEHEHEHE
#oh boi i gotta mentally prepare for this one#i FINALLY get to know the context behind that cursed belly button piercing charles cg#just me rambling
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@lulu-the-smol-floof and I spent like 2 hours talking about the religions the guys were, so we looked it all up just to be sure. There are so many more arguments happening
Napoleon: was baptized into the Catholic faith as a child, however, he never became engrossed in the faith
Mozart: Catholic (and fairly religious)
Leonardo: more than likely Catholic. He referred to God as a supreme being. Could also be called a spiritual metaphysician.
Vincent: Protestant (father was priest, also nearly was a priest)
Theo: Protestant (father was priest)
Arthur: Catholic turned atheist(after studying medicine) then got interested in the occult.
Isaac: Born into an Anglican family, by his thirties held a Christian faith. Saw worshipping Christ as God was idolatry, to him the fundamental sin.
Jean: Catholic
Will: Protestant
Dazai: Christian but in the way that God is a punisher (in game possibly more Shinto since we see him in shrines)
Comte: He believes...in something
Sebastian: atheist but superstitious
Vlad: Eastern Roman Orthodox Catholic (going off Vlad in Impaler)
Faust: Protestant (was banned from churches tho)
Charles: Catholic
Drake: Protestant
Galileo: Roman Catholic (supported the church and hoped the church would support him, spoiler alert: they didn't)
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Fun lil thoughts now
Jean and Mozart are the only ones who go to church every Sunday.
Because here Leonardo is a pureblood, I think that maybe for a hot moment he was religious but very quickly turned his back on that.
Theo is SOOOOO mad that the three he hates the most are the only other Protestants. He's stuck with Will Faust and Drake.
Will actually grew up in the Church of England, which was possibly more Roman Catholic but when you look at his writing it reflects Protestant more.
Best part is that Faust is Protestant but Vlad has him working in a Catholic church. Vlad doesn't know the difference. Faust gives all his sermons in German and they aren't even sermons. He just bitches about this and gives out recipes, but Mozart is literally the only one who knows
Faust: I fucking hate this city. It's so dirty
Mozart: he's so right
Now bc they lean into Drake being more of a pirate, I don't think this man has much religion to him. He sticks to the pirate code. But I feel like if you showed him a sign of God he'd believe you.
Okay so Dazai. When we first talked about this we couldn't really find anything (I was honestly doing a quick Google search, not a deep dive), so we said he's probably Shinto, at least in game since we see him in shrines in some cgs. @tako-cafe informed me that he was first communist (when growing up) and then Christian, but int he way that God is here to punish/torture us bc humans themselves are sin and cannot escape it.
Arthur went atheist once he discovered science basically.
Isaac is actually right with the idolizing thing. It's actually blasphemous to have depictions of Jesus on a cross, or having a place dedicated to God. But that part sort of got lost bc obvs churches don't want you to know that. Also, he's just a god fearing man.
Isaac: going to church is a sin
Jean, across the room: ITS WHAT
That being said, Christmas Day, aka Isaac's birthday, Isaac and Arthur are the only ones at the mansion in the morning.
Dazai is going bc they have snacks. Sebastian is going because ..well.. we shouldn't trust them all to behave.
Back to Dazai. If we stick with him being Shinto, everyone in the mansion finds it weird as hell. Sebastian has to tell them that "no. This is actually the religion, not just weird things Dazai does"
Meanwhile Dazai is like "I need to go feed the frogs goldfish so that we have good weather"
Oh? Comte? Yeah. He believes. In what? He believes
Also, keep in mind that even tho that most of them are Catholic, they are all from different countries and time periods where being Catholic meant different things.
#ikevamp#ikemen vampire#ikevamp napoleon#ikevamp mozart#ikevamp leonardo#ikevamp vincent#ikevamp theo#ikevamp arthur#ikevamp isaac#ikevamp dazai#ikevamp jean#ikevamp shakespeare#ikevamp comte#ikevamp sebastian#ikevamp vlad#ikevamp faust#ikevamp charles#ikevamp drake#ikevamp galileo#this was longer than indented
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If Min had lived past CH1, where do you think her character could potentially go?
What do you mean if? /j
That depends a lot on the context of her survival, frankly. Does she still see Xander's attempt to murder Teruko and just... survive somehow? Does something else save Teruko and Xander dies without Min being the blackened? Does Xander die before the attempt? Or are the CH1 victim and killers completely swapped? If so, who are the new ones? All of these lead to pretty different possibilities for Min's character. But there's still a couple of things that could have been interesting to see.
Yay an excuse to ramble about Min! :,D
For starters, my guess is that she'd be decent enough in trials; at the very least, she'd act as third brain cell alongside Teruko and Charles. She'd definitely have joined Charles and Levi in talking about how strong jockeys are, for example. Also my heart says she'd have been in the Teruko Teaher CG in some way, such as an teacher's assistant.
Her secret would have also been a hell of a time. Assuming the two CH1 deaths still had each others' secrets, someone must have had Min's, which would have certainly been... honestly indescribable. It just depends too much on who exactly gets it.
However, "You always treated the competition with ruthlessness, but poisoning them to win was a bit far, wasn't it?" would have certainly been an excuse to bring the XF-Ture backstory to light, and combined with MonoTV's own XF-Ture comment, I'm pretty sure hell would have followed. Just complete pandemonium; the poisoner has ties to the same company that seems to be connected to the killing game, yeah everyone's gonna start calling mastermind and shit's gonna hit the fan.
I could see a world where the cast in CH3 becomes completely divided over the Extremely Suspicious Min, with Eden for example being one of the ones to stick up for her (baking squad I will always miss you). I could also see Rose doing it (baking squad I will always miss you), because they could bond over the companies ruling over their respective lives, so Rose would trust that Min had nothing to do with the other shit XF-Ture had going on. Hell, since I'm talking about it, Min would have probably also tried to cheer Rose up about the tape thing, because of her whole "mistakes are to be corrected" thing (BAKING SQUAD-)
And all that means Min would have quite an interesting reaction to Eden or Rose dying, and vice versa. No ship shall remain undoomed in DRDT, after all!
On the other hand, holy shit the beef between her and David. The guy that's always defending the son of a bitch who tried to kill Teruko? Xander, the one Min always disliked anyways? It would be basically on the same level as Teruko's beef with David, which would be a sight to see. Throw in Xander surviving too, and you have the ultimate Yaoi vs Yuri throw down on your hands.
But a lot of this is character interactions, what about Min herself? Well, I imagine she'd grow into reaching similar conclusions to Bonus Episode 1, about what she'd like to do in the future and being a teacher, especially since I imagine the trials would be made in a way that her talent would help so she'd gain more confidence in her abilities. Obviously all of this development would happen right before she dies, or right before the final trial if she's a survivor.
Yes, even though I'm immensely biased when I say this, I think Min could have worked as a survivor. In a very similar way I think Rose could be a survivor now; experience horrors beyond imagination, and slowly get better until the point they're willing to fight their fates (aka company contracts) by the time they leave the killing game, paralleling Teruko's own growth. For Min, those horrors wouldn't be photographic memory, getting betrayed and (presumably at some point) watching close friends like Eden die. Rather, they would be losing everyone's trust between the poison secret and the XF-Ture thing, having some breakdown over mistakes in trials (again similar to Rose), worrying that she'd die before her life really began, and... watching Eden die. In case it isn't obvious, I really miss the damn baking squad T_T
Also, the poison secret (god this post's structure is a mess). I haven't been talking much about it because we're actually missing quite a few details. I've talked before about how I imagine she likely non-lethally poisoned people after the Ultimate Contest for Eminent Students (or asked someone from XF-Ture to do it for her), but obviously that's speculation. That's important because, for example, I don't know how much the actual lethality of the situation would affect the way Miss Anti-Murder Preacher J would react to it, even though I imagine she'd be pretty pissed no matter what. Veronika would be all over Min for the details though.
Her reaction to Levi and Arturo's secrets would have been cool to see. Arturo doing anything for a better life would probably get her to feel sympathy for him, at least, and again depending the lethality of her poisoning, she probably wouldn't be able to really hold it against him without hypocrisy.
Speaking of Arturo, do we think Min would make a good doctor's assistant? She was reading an anatomy textbook in her introduction. Maybe helping Arturo take care of Levi after Trial 2 would be the start of her becoming more confident in her abilities.
Also she'd be real good friends with Charles. No elaboration on this, I just know it in my heart to be true.
One dynamic I'd like to see is with Hu. If Hu learns about Min's past, and Min's desire to leave it all behind (as per the pinned comment in Bonus Episode 1, Min is "Someone who wants to move on from the past"), I could see her reaching out as someone who also has a past she'd rather pretend doesn't exist. There would certainly be a good deal of character development for both of them, just in time for one of them to die of course. Incidentally, the whole "moving on from the past" thing could rope in Veronika as well..
And I could probably ramble about this forever. To be extremely fair, all DRDT characters have so much depth and there's so many interconnected themes all over the place that I could do this for any of them; go on ad infinitum about all the possibilities for growth and exploration that their interactions with the cast and the motives could provide. So I'll cut myself off there.
(I will also add as an observation that (because I'm predictable) I have considered writing a "Min survives CH1" canon divergence fanfic before. Don't count on it happening, just know it can)
Thanks for the ask! Always happy to have an excuse to ramble about my girl :,)
#drdt#drdt spoilers#ask#min jeung#i get too excited writing about her and post structure kinda goes out the window#but what's new really :p
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