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starscreamingg · 5 months ago

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Detroit Become Human and why does this game decide that the problem in society is individual people treating androids poorly because those androids are choking them out of the workforce and NOT the corporations and governments who deliberately designed the androids to do this

#AUGHHGHH #I promise you dbh is still one of my favourite games I really do #But ohhhhhhhjghh my GODDDD it makes me mad #Like ESPECIALLY this year. With artists and writers being so fucked by ai #Like the game has less than no sympathy for people who were screwed over by cyberlife deciding their labour wasn't worth anything #Like everybody has to be a strawman. Everybody has to be the violent 'android bad because (some vague reason that draws on the #'immigrants are stealing our jobs' line despite the fact that these things aren't equivalent at all)#Like yes. Robots being placed in positions where a real human would be paid a real wage to do that job is bad. This is a bad thing #But the game. Does not CARE #It's so morally neutral for cyberlife to be allowed to mass produce androids in the middle of a poverty epidemic that they created #It's fine! Says Detroit Become Human because everyone rendered homeless or struggling by this company's actions is a violent drug addict #Or something #It's like HUH #H U H #This game was so enamoured with it's weird bad civil rights allegory that it forgot that people do actually need jobs to uh. Pay to live #Because things are hell #And I think it could've been SO much better if the game acknowledged this AS WELL as acknowledging that no android chose this #Like a fresh deviant didn't ask to cause a real person to not have a job. The company who made them did #But dbh doesn't care. Cyberlife is morally neutral in this. I swear #Loses my mind this game is such a mess #Uhhh if anyone's reading this please don't get mad at me I promise I do really love this game. Like this game is the reason I #Met the love of my life. I am physically incapable of hating this game #I just think it's so worth discussing the ways it fails in (what I think is) a constructive manner #detroit become human #game analysis #I guess #If anyone has any contributions or disagrees with me I would LOVE love to hear. Genuinely I love talking about things like this #Essay in tags

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pigeonstab · 6 months ago

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I showed my mom a Cross body pillow and she was like 'oh yeah well we can order that for Christmas'

#she knows about all the utmv stuff #cause I tell her about it #she thinks it's neat #mostly cause she knows I like it lol #I don't think she thinks it's cool or anything #but she likes knowing what I like and what fandoms I interact with #she knows what a ship is #also headcanons #she knows about the tumblr sexyman polls #she thought that was fun #anyways don't mind me gushing I love my mom a lot #granted about the body pillow thing she doesn't know it's likeeeeee weird #the one I showed her is SFW #but it's got a connotation anyway #which she isn't aware of #she has seen the Mpreg Cross drawing #sorry toffee

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sanasanakun · 9 months ago

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Maybe I’m stupid (likely) but I feel like Gojo resembling Toji in his battle with Megumi!Sukuna is trying to show that he is a paternal figure in Megumi’s life. Like the two different sides of Megumi’s male paternal figures (or I guess the two most consistent male adult figures in Megumi’s life)??? I don’t buy that Gojo was a father figure for Tsumiki and Megumi (to me he was more like Spencer from ICarly lmao) but like…i feel like the outfit similarity is trying to say something about their relationship on a familial or paternal scale…but im too dumb to fully phrase this how i want so maybe just ponder on this for me hahaha

#this doesn’t make sense lol I’m just confused #I can read so many books and get the subtext and all that #but there’s so many conflicting things about jjk due to translation error or whatever #so I’m like…maybe I’m over thinking this???#im a Megumi thinks of Gojo as family and vice versa truther though so im biased #but since im catching up on everything i ended up seeing discourse around the dadjo takes #and this question popped into my mind lol #anyway thank you for coming to my ted talk #jujutsu kaisen #jujutsu gojo #gojo satoru #toji fushiguro #megumi fushiguro #jjk #ok and to clarify I don’t mean paternal as in dad #I mean it like Gojo was a consistent adult figure for those children #they would naturally defer to him as a paternal figure after enough exposure #cause I see things saying Tsumiki raised him which yeah she did #but to say Gojo wasn’t present as an adult authority figure is wrong imo #it was a mix of Tsumiki raising him day to day and Gojo making regular visits I think idk translation gets a little weird there #but yeah paternal =\= dad Gojo is what I’m trying to say

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frankiebirds · 8 months ago

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ohhh boy i forgot about this plot point.

i don't think kevin applying for an overseas job is wrong. i don't even think him suggesting that penelope apply with him is wrong. he's allowed to want to move forward in his career and he's allowed to ask his girlfriend to come with him.

what i do think is wrong is that he doesn't bring it up until right before the final interview. i'm hesitant to suggest this because i know kevin gets a little bit of a ron the death eater* treatment from the fandom, but it feels almost calculated. that's a major life decision you're forcing someone to make very quickly. he says he "didn't want to say anything to [her] until it was real" but even if it's not calculated (which i don't actually interpret it as being, the possibility just crossed my mind) i still think it's a shitty thing to pull on your romantic partner. it's softened a little by the fact that he says he's known for "a few weeks" so it's not like she would have had tons of time to decide in the first place, but like...dude. you don't spring that on your partner while literally dressed for the final interview. are you twelve?

*i believe some, if not all, of the ire kevin lynch gets is because of some stuff that happens later that i'm mostly unfamiliar with, so it's very possible that the vilification i see has more justification. but i do think at least some of it is because he gets in the way of other, more popular garcia ships. (that's not to say i like him or that i like him with garcia. i don't lmao).

#i think garcia deserves better #a woman perhaps #emily perhaps. jj perhaps. both perhaps.#i remember she also does a shitty thing at the end of this episode although i'll admit i'm hazy on the specifics #i'll update w my thoughts on that when i get there #penelope garcia #criminal minds #criminal minds s04e23 #criminal minds 4x23 #roadkill #not fic #criminal minds rewatch #character analysis #scene analysis #i suppose #my gifs #sorry idk what's causing that weird texture on the first one

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trans-estinien · 11 months ago

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i love being autistic cause sometimes i get a glimpse into how regular people perceive things and its like. what the fuck. what the fuck is that? you live like this? and its normal?? i think YOURE the weird one actually. im fine. thanks though.

#THERES SO MANY WEIRD RULES #LIKE WHAT DO YOU MEAN PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION TO HOW SOMEONE WALKS LIKE HUH????? WHY????????????#can someone fucking explain the dude head nod thing to me why do we do that. whats that about. ive never seen anyone do that irl before #is that an american thing or do i just hang around too many afab people #i am learning the intricacies of cis people gender rules and i am. what fucking planet have i been on the last 17 years like what is this #was there some like. rulebook they handed out at somepoint they forgot to give to me or something #“best way to learn is to observe the men around you” OBSERVE WHAT. YOU PEOPLE PAY THAT MUCH ATTENTION TO EVERY LITTLE MOVEMENT????#bruh i can barely make eye contact w people...#my ass has never intentionally copied someones mannerisms ever.#i do it subconsciously. but doing it actively feels weird and wrong and like im breaking someones boundaries #“men dont smile at people.” well they should.#ive decided cishet men are the most boring people on the planet #“dont move with your hands” YOURE BREAKING MY POOR THEATER KID HEART #i need to meet more gay men irl to absorb the vibe of cause i only know like two. not counting myself #i want people to look at me and go. ah yes. fruit.#at this point im just going to accept being misgendered for the rest of eternity. id rather die than be boring in the way cishet men are #my flavor of being trans is so influenced by my autism cause my perception of genders is completely off from what everyone else is doing #im like. yeah i want to be a man. and then i look at what the majority of men are actually like and its like. wait no. not like that #shoutout to flamboyant gay men where would i be without them #i think the thing that bothers me the most is that like #in my mind peoples genders are just. the way they express themselves.#its not like. this super big complex deal like how everyone else treats it. if that makes sense? like.#regular people have so many rules for what counts as a man or what counts as a woman or what counts as neither and its like???#you can do what you want???? why do we care????#and ive been doing this since i was little. on account of the autism #i just. dont get why its such a big deal to people.#i cant wrap my head around it at all #not nonbinary not a girl not aegender not a man but a secret fourth thing #(man but i do it my way instead of everyone elses way)#unfortunately doing it my way just. leads to the misgendering dimension. for some reason

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maybege · 7 months ago

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btw i am still alive now that i have recovered from swiftkirchen and i hope you are all doing super well this summer! i am FLYING through my reading list atm which is amazing and i am feeling more and more inspired for things (footballer!paz anyone? roommate!paz as well maybe?) so hmu in the inbox it is TIME TO THIRST

#this month has been so crazy #being an adult is constantly switching from bone deep exhaustion to fully packed calendars for social things #and i love the social things don't get me wrong but like #i need time to rot #i need time to stare out the window and daydream #and i have had the bEST scenarios come up in my head just before i fall asleep #(aka the main way i get any of my writing outlined lol)#but i have barely even opened my laptop in the past two weeks #never mind written anything down #anyway what i am trying to say is that i think this 'forced' break kind of got my muse going again #i am thinking of all the things and i even wanted to write a little bit for biker!Paz again which #let me tell you #has not happened in a LONG LONG time #also also #sarah made me the PRETTIEST BESTEST AWESOMEST friendship bracelets for calm and the one #and obv i am now thinking again of that other bodyguard!paz idea i had going in my brain that one time #cause i kind of forgot about The One???#but also did i ever tell you guys about the modern calmer au i was thinking of?#bc i had a weird/uncomfy rideshare experience recently #and nothing happened and i was never unsafe at any point #but boy oh boy do i think this would fit in that au #anyway #i know there are some asks in my inbox that i never got to so maybe i'll get to it today!#may rambles

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widevibratobitch · 9 days ago

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laalalalala another vent post because i have no therapist to pay for listening to my bullshit

#i just dont fucking get it lol #like i genuinely just cannot grasp the concept #i dont usually do this but i finally snapped and asked her if she thought about how *I* would feel when she texts me #about the 'letting herself go' and how she's disgusting and a monster. and she hits me with a 'no because this is how she feels #she's feeling really really badly so that's what she's thinking about atm' like ok??????????? is this like. normal?#because no matter how horrible i feel at any point of time i will ALWAYS think about how my words may affect the other person FIRST #because the last thing i want is to make someone feel worse because i feel bad. there is a constant calculus party going in my brain #where i try to calculate how much and in what words i can tell say to this particular person to absolutely minimise the chance #that they'll feel bad or uncomfortable or whatever because of what i say. ofc i will slip up and miscalculate every once in a while #shit happens and i am sorry if i do but at least i can honestly say to myself that i did what i could to Not do that.#i will always think about the other person first because (usually) id like people to return the same action towards me.#and idk maybe im tweaking here but isnt that like. normal???? like the obvious logical thing to do they teach you in kindergarten?#sorry. heavily catholic upbringing moment but what happened to 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you'????????#anyway. obviously there will always be slip ups and unusual occasions but to openly just state that because you were feeling really bad #you didnt really care what the other person would feel when you tell them something is fucking WILD to me. like genuinely inconceivable.#this is not to assume a holier-than-thou persona but i really do think this is the normal fucking thing to do if you're an adult?????#like oh my god sometimes you will just have to shut up and not fully vent upon someone especially if its uninvited and out of the blue #i think its different if you're having a heart-to-heart trauma bonding moment or sth and someone *asks you* to vent etc etc #but to just treat every instance when you're feeling bad as a permission to just say whatever with 0 consideration for the other person???#wild. really fucking weird to me that's all.#✨tumblr vent posts✨ dont count ofc you are not only allowed but legally required to say the deepest most horrible batshit insane thoughts #that ever cross your mind <33 like i would not tell a person irl that i daydream about the woodchipper thing obviously cause its fuckn nuts #uwu teehee episode 2137 of 'i dont understand the way the world and other people work and its driving me insane lol&lmao'

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kdranime · 28 days ago

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#single's inferno #tehwan is so fucking awkward like he's just standing there and I can feel the awkwardness through the screen it's like he's just so uncomf💀#aah poor minseol she's so cute🤣 youjin is so cute too #finally jeongsu is showing a side I'm actually liking with youjin lol I wasn't expecting this #also didn't expect to like junseo and sian so much agh but what about theo #I don't think dongho likes haelin he definitely likes arin #never thought I'd feel bad for jeonsu but his face after he saw sian leaning on junseo wow made me feel sad also why did sian come in first #minseollllllll my girl I was cheering for you lmao😭#also I was sure junseo only saw minseol as a younger sister but after he said she was on his mind during paradise and was shouting tips at #her during the game I'm like? maybe not? probably yes but maybe not? lol #I was right ofc junseo doesn't like minseol aaaaah poor girl and aaah whoaa I can't believe sian turned theo down #he's also sweet and kind why didn't she go for him instead of jeongsu😩#anyway if it's between junseo and jeongsu than I reaaaaaaaaaaaally hope it's junseo bc jeongsu and sian were so boring together #or maybe she will still choose theo in the end? lmao I don't think so but you never know #between theo and junseo I'm thorn between junseo and jeongsu JUNSEO PLEASE OH GOSH PLEASE #even if junseo just saw minseol as a cute younger friend I still liked their friendship #ah seriously you can't make men feel comfortable and be friendly cause they take you for granted #you have to make them feel NERVOUS taylor swift is a psyho but maybe she was right when she said men only want love if it's torture🤣#I'm joking..... partially..... sian still probably made him a little nervous and I think ppl are a little too extreme about junseo #he's rough but he even said he's gonna try to be more gentle to sian and he didn't give minseol fake hopes he was very straightforward #but still nice #now that it's just two episodes till the end I think there was no couple or contestant that I was super into this season #in season two I loved seulki and dex so much and season three there was hajeong and gwanhee even tho I hated gwanhee sometimes #season 1 I liked jia and her puppy (forgot his name lmao) but it wasn't that special same with theo and minseol #so theory going around is that taehwan only went on the show to promote his job... and honestly I know a lot of ppl probably do this but at #at least they fake well? lmao that's why he is so weird and was so desperate to go to paradise with jiyeon bc he HAD TO TALK ABOUT HIS JOB #also he couldn't connect with anyone and was acting like a mf robot #I love that everyone was enjoying him oh he's such a green flag but I was right about him all along dude seriously creeps me out Idk why bu #I have a sixth sense for these things

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empty-blog-for-lurking · 11 months ago

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Me: I don't know what to do with Veronica's character in post s8 au, I don't want her to be Just Lance's sister and Kuron's friend with Pidge's storyline slapped on her, but also I'm not really sure about her character. Sure there's the whole lying to her family thing but I don't think that's enough?

Brain: ok so what if Veronica started out as trying to look for what was Lance upto but she ends up being so obsessed with finding the truth that not only she repeatedly puts herself in harms way but also the original goal falls on wayside.

This could be her way of dealing with trauma which is getting engrossed in the Mission and a problem to fix while suppressing her grief and refusing to actually acknowledge her problems and her own emotions a foil to Kuron's arc that is him being literally driven by emotions. She's angry at Lance for leaving without a word and angry at her family for their clinginess, however she keeps it to herself and just avoid them pretending everything is fine and normal

Also a foil to Lance who started as trying to figure out what was going on but as soon as he realized that 1) Allura and Kuron are still sorta alive 2) he can bring them back, he got obsessed with it consequences by damned.

Plus through her we can actually explore how quintessence actually effects and changes humans rather than become aware of the end result

Also there's something a character who is obsessed with truth but is also such a frequent liar

#There's a lot more but it involves changing a lot of elements of this au and explaining half assed elements and scenes in my head #post s8 au #post s8 posting #Just realizing she's having a jon sims arc. Good for her! Atleast she won't accidentally cause an apocalypse #It is still very draft and beta and I keep changing things in it as soon as I think of something cool #I kinda want Lance to be like at first seeing him living a 'normal' life but also there's something clearly Wrong #Veronica seems to be always busy and gone and never there. Shadows and crows being weird #and a voice asking him 'Did you make right choice?' And 'Remember' and 'wake up'#only to reveal that he has been living in a fake reality and a lot of his family is dead #yk that one scene in dunmeshi where Laois digs up and stares at Falin's skull. Lance digging up a grave and be like 'Dad?'#it's representational in his own head. And Lance created this fake reality as a form of denialism #Veronica at first being standoffish not being completely honest with Kuron #Lying to Kuron and her superiors about where she had been making her sus #Kuron not knowing that Lance was the one who brought him back until much later #only that *Someone*was reaching out to him in Shiro's mind and made his body #The family is dead and Lance was living in fake reality reveal happens just as Veronica starts being honest with Kuron #Few of the family members are killed due to retaliation from an extremist galra group #A hot topic in coalition meetings which is a way for connecting Hunk!!!! To the plot!!!!!#I love you my brain!!!#Sorry this is so fucking incoherent

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purgemarchlockdown · 1 year ago

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The temptation to vague about something in the milgram-confessions blog because its something thats bothered me for Actual Years about certain fandoms vs letting it go because when it is brought up its actually done somewhat tastefully and reasonably which makes me happy and this anon probably didnt mean it in the incredibly bad faith way I keep on seeing it be repeated so really Im getting upset over nothing.

#the answer is: ramble a bit in the tags just to get it out of my system #for some elaboration: Im asian! I have a knee jerk reaction when people go 'the westerners are projecting their values onto the east again'#because 9/10 of the times someone does that they're an American who wants to justify their weird racism/homophobia #by using the idea that asian countries (especially Japan) are backwards and/or ignorant but disguising it as 'being mindful of their cultur #and also then homogenizing them and pretending their all a monolith to be assholes to people!#and/or completely dismiss any possible criticism or interpretation for a series as a cultural values thing #this one fucks me up especially because usually there IS Merit in those interpretations/criticisms #but a concerning amount of people then go 'oh your just pushing your cultural values onto them' as a smokescreen to be a bunch of assholes #and/or discredit their ideas because Clearly All (insert x group here) think EXACTLY THE SAME and BELIEVE FULLY in whatever cultural #idea their using to justify this behavior #Ive Seen actual good discussion on differences in culture!#especially in another fandom of mine #but the worse option has happened so much that when I hear someone say those words alarm bells start ringing #its bad faith! I know its bad faith! But Ive engaged the worse option in good faith and came out wanting to punch someone A Lot More #Ive seen actually good faith discussions of cultural difference in this fandom sometimes! Its really nice but It scares me #cause im just Waiting for Someone to come in and ruin it #can you guys tell ive seen too many bad anime video essays? Ive seen too many bad anime video essays.

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cubtales · 2 months ago

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can't seem to sleep tonight (ʋ •ﻌ• ʋ) wish argenti was here snuggling on my side but it seems the cosmos whisked away my beloved >:(

#〝 𝓬𝓾𝓫𝓬𝓱✩𝓽𝓼 ₊ ࣪ ㅤ ꣓ㅤ #can they give him back plz . i want to snuggle him #feelin' tired ʕ￫ᴥ￩ʔ but i can't sleep .. sigh #passing time on block blast as we speak ^^#was lost in my mind a bit so i wanted to write them out #good thing they're happy thoughts ! :3 i just feel restless cause i don't feel like starting a manhwa at the moment . .#so now i'm thinking about habits i notice with others and myself !#like how everyone's perception of friendship varies for better or for worse #i cherish friendship like crazy since i grew up watching fairy tail but lately i realized how incredibly naive i am about things :o #learning smthin new from you guys each and everyday v.v just silently observing #i hope some things i say don't sound weird too ! i'm workin on it v.v i hate feeling a disconnect #ʕ •̀ᴥ•́ ʔ✧

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beneaththebloodylake · 3 months ago

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「You're thinking 'people from Kansai are stingy' aren't you. ... Actually it's just me who's personally stingy.」

literally me but with uk/europe/whatever distinction americans decide to assign me

#very inaccurrate translation but reckon thats the gist of what its saying #also her dialogues so hard to understand #often ill put something in google translate and it wont know but way more with her #dunno about japanese regional stereotypes at all other than 'kansaiben is weird' which it is and the annoying escalater thing #anyway like europe is definitely stereotyped as stingy and being where ive been like uk is europe which it is anyway but perspective etc #like i tend to forget sometimes people from america and stuff get confused when i talk about 'europe' meaning the not here bit #ive more heard the stereotype that scottish people are stingy not whole uk or specifically england but like i dunno?#when your in a different continent the specific stereotype isnt really relevent and to them im just whatever especially #non english speakers im just european #anyway im just stingy cause im stingy not cause if where im from #though i happen to think all americans are way not stingey enough and weird about money #its weird though even amoung students stingyness is way more socially acceptable in uk/parts of europe maybe australia and nz i dunno #but like americans and japanese people for example tend to not be so much like that #america is like really weird though like the extent theyll act like its shameful to not want to buy expensive stuff for no reason #im not saying being poor is never looked down on here but among normal people its considered normal to not want to burn money #and like not being able to afford expensive stuff? like thats totally normal? i dont live in a bubble?#most people i know are middle class or lower middle class like a lot of them are anyway #though to be fair im mostly talking about americans from what ive gathered from the internet though in real life they are less likely to sa #somethings too expensive or whatever #its funny this is about a regional identity but i compared it to my national or even larger scale one #well cause when you go somewhere else it becomes that often my identity even in my mind is just westerner or non american or english speake

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scatteredraysofhope · 5 months ago

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Cleaning is soooo therapeutic!!!! I just genuinely love cleaning stuff so much when I have the energy. Cleaning the windows, fans, closest! I even like the smell of cleaning products when they are not suffocating. Its just the satisfying feeling of getting your life together and making your living environment better ahhhhhh

#like i cant cook cause im terrible at keeping my mind on one thing but CLEANING i just dissociate and think about little sinareos #while i scrub away #hehe #weird rambling #allie's diary #also im clumsy af so me with any kind of knife is just a recipe for disaster lol

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the-chaos-crew · 6 months ago

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when you've had a ship for years that no one in your (possibly) dead fandom knows or heard of or even thought of and you're starved for content on them cause they're like so separated from the fandom in your head now

is this just me

#im mostly talking about #sanders sides #and my ship remus x remy #I JUST THINK THEYD FIT PERFECTLY OKAY #Anxiety and Remy work too by keeping up at night for way too long on worrying topics #but... Remus and Remy....#theyre ying and yang in my mind. Remy is calm and sleepy with morbid curiosity his mind always drearily wandering #and Remus is #Remus. always coming up with horrible ideas and Remy just kinda indulges in them #at the end of the night Remus wants to go out ajd actually execute his ideas and Remy grabs him by the collar like #nuh uh uh. its late. we need to sleep. maybe in the morning #and then they sleep and Remus never does his evil plans #its perfect yk #its cute I think theyre cute #ive also ended up seperating them next to completely from Thomas which yk is a good thing to me cause never been a fan of #self cest so the more individual they are the better to me #very weird characters to attatch to and apply my own headcanons to but I am cringe and free shut up

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aggravatedanarchy · 9 months ago

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I fucking love video games that are buggy as fuck

Fucking around in Vault 3, helping those guys escape- I come back with the key and two of them are outside the cage and one of the Fiends is inside it instead. I'm like "wow okay," move on, unlock the cage.

And then I just. Get to watch them all crouch and "sneak" out of the cage, pushing up against and stopping in front of Fiends the whole way.

I genuinely don't know if they're supposed to just be fine once you open the cage? So like maybe that last bit is par for the course. But coming back to two of them just wandering that room, chillin with the captors? Incredible. 10/10 I recommend this game to everyone.

#queued #jay.txt #fallout new vegas #can i like. comment on a thing btw. here in the comfort and safety of my tags?#does anyone else find getting good karma exclusively from (at least so far as I've seen) killing Fiends a little. Not Fucking Great?#like. idk. when i first heard about them in game it was from betsy and she has that one line abt them and like. it kinda set a tone for me #+maybe. 'cause barring the fiends we're given specified crimes for (and thus I DO enjoy my good karma from) they're just. addicts?#idk it just rubs me wrong. especially walking around this vault without having aggro'd them. like they don't even get upset with you for +#+taking their chems??? which i expected to be a problem 100%. but no. they just let you do whatever. they're just Fiending as it were #i do recognize that like. They've Fucking Done Shit. like killing the original vault dwellers who apparently just invited them in. that's +#+horrible yeah I agree. but how am i meant to know/believe they were all 100% complicit in that? how recent was that also? there's possibly #+people in this faction who DIDN'T do that yk? idk. idk. I'm overthinking it but it just rubs me wrong. like you're not gonna give me good #+karma for killing the slaver faction but I can get it for killing addicts? sure. okay. definitely not fucking weird behavior #Rant Over it's just been on the mind. until I get a mission that makes me be aggressive w them in there I'm gonna leave them be I think #like rogues that just attack me? sure. self defense. but if they've not attacking me we're just gonna chill #(queued june 9th)#future/present me here with an update! Finally encountered something else that gave me good karma for killing it! it was a feral ghoul +#+trooper. not sure how I feel about that 100%? i think i lean mostly towards ''yeah fair enough.'' it does make me feel a little less Hm +#+about the Fiend good karma though. just a little. but seriously why am I not getting it from Legion troops-#(additional tags added june 13th)

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