#cause all the lore cool but no humans? Even if it makes sense why they aren’t there it didn’t do it for me sadly
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I realized more and more how my “robo autism” as I call it differs from other people’s obsession with robots because I’ve seen people who like robots completely looking un human as possible and there also be little humans within in the media, they just want robots, meanwhile the reason I enjoy robots is when they are used as a way to look into the philosophy of being human.
I like robots that are made to look human and interact with human for the conflict it causes of “how human can you make something that’s not human? Is it worthy of being accepted as a person?” since it brings up a lot of existential and interesting questions. I only tend to like robots that don’t look super human if they’re mechas cause they still have a relationship with humans, the sentience can go either way as even if I do like robo sentience not every mecha story needs it and I oddly prefer the route of “it can’t speak but it’s alive” rather then it talking, because it just feels more eerie then a giant talking robot.
I know to some people if they see this I’m gonna come off boring and like yeah maybe I do cause I know robot designs have more potential when they aren’t bound to human stuff, and I’m not saying anyone who enjoys the other way is bad, but this is just why I realized certain robot media clicks with me and others don’t. (Also my brain makes everything needlessly complicated lol)
#meg text#autism ramblings#I think I mainly realized this rewatching Kikaider given it’s one of my favorite explorations of the topic#but also explains why media like Gravity circuit which is GREAT I didn’t see myself clicking with#cause all the lore cool but no humans? Even if it makes sense why they aren’t there it didn’t do it for me sadly#in general alien robots are a concept I like but almost every time my investment is low due to little human interactions in those media#I think casshern sins is the only media I’ve liked so far where it’s strictly robots but it’s like- a interesting case#cause even if there’s barely humans the entire point is the robots are so human that it still tickles my brain#like yes I love robots being given morality and that fully blurs the lines of making them into humans#I think the real shocker tho is I still got robo autism in the era where ai sucks LOL but fiction makes everything cooler#(and tbf- there’s absolutely ways irl we could use robots in non harmful ways we’re just fucking stupid)#All the benefits we could get if robots workers were made to help sick/disabled people but not like society cares for us#god I didn’t mean to make this sad but I had to put my irl robot two cents somewhere lol
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I think you're the fifth blogger I've seen mention Shax's thing for Crowley... I still can't see it even though I really want to 'cause I think it's hilarious... send help... 🤣🥲😔
I can try lol. Chocolate cake? *slices*
More fun with Shax and Crowley under the cut. We're also going to look at part of Gabriel & Sandalphon's visit to the bookshop in S1 for some bonus fun since it fit in here as it's a parallel scene.
TW: Brief mention of Sandalphon and his homophobia.
For the most part, Shax isn't really in love with Crowley... she's just got a Mr. Brown-level pash on the Crowley that Crowley projects. While Aziraphale hides that he's an angel from the human world so Mr. Brown only believes him to be human, Crowley hides the extent to which he's human and living like one from the demons in Hell. As a result, the demon pursuing him has got exactly one thing correct about Crowley-- that he's hot lol-- but Shax's opinions as to why only partially overlap with ours and Aziraphale's because Shax believes Crowley's big reputation. She doesn't know what we know about him or see him the way we do. Like Mr. Brown with Aziraphale, she exists in part to highlight how insular Crowley & Aziraphale's world of their life together is and how much they have to playact in their respective worlds to keep that secret life they have with one another private and intact.
Shax is a demon who loves being a demon. That's what makes her crazy to us. Most of the other demons we've met are just miserable, even if they're playing along, but Shax is a real go-getter. She's ambitious and she lives to serve their master Satan. She wants to be good at being a demon and she's in love with *Crowley* lol. To us, this seems bananas because ain't no demon ever hated being a demon more than Anthony Jemimah Crowley... but it's proof positive of how decent a job Crowley has been doing at projecting an air of general demonicness for the last six thousand years.
Crowley has been a prince of Hell forever. He's gotten the top jobs-- the stuff of Shax's dreams, really-- and was a particular favorite of Satan, whom Shax worships. He was basically Hell's resident rock star, breezing in every few months to give a demonic presentation and shoot the shit in Lord Beezlebub's office for a half-hour before taking off for Earth again. If you were Shax, spending literally *thousands of years* in that overstuffed, dark, actual hell hole, Crowley showing up must have been like a visit from sexy Santa Claus. Shax is one of those Effort-making demons and most of the demons in Hell are more terrifying than attractive, ok?... even if you find terrifying attractive, like Shax sorta does or at least thinks she ought to.
Who's going to light your fire down there? Hastur? He'd *literally* light you on fire....
We've seen Shax have to deal with misogyny in the workplace (ugh Demon Josh) and you know she never got any of that shit from Crowley. She probably mostly got a "Shaaaaax! How's it hangin'?" from Disco Tony, who was thrilled to have remembered her name this time. Shax was playing it evil demon lady cool on the surface but girl just wants to be first string for the finest demon in Hell and she was swooning internally every time Crowley swooped in to grace Hell with his presence for a hot minute.
There has been suggestion in the series that several demons that we know of from Bible lore are, in Good Omens, all actually Crowley, which furthers this idea of Crowley and his big reputation a bit. The show has actually already done this with a Biblical figure, in that Bildad the Shuite is an actual Biblical character that the show just made be actually the demon Crowley under a different name, so it would make sense that the reason why we haven't seen other famous demons from The Bible in the series are because they're actually Crowley.
One is canon, basically, which is Astaroth/Astoreth, since Crowley was Nanny Astoreth in S1 and I doubt he stole the name from another demon who exists in the GO universe. When Crowley tells Aziraphale he changed his name when they are watching Jesus' crucifixion, Aziraphale first posits two other demons' names and neither of them exist in GO universe to date but both are, lore-wise, powerful: Mephistopheles and Asmodeus. A lot of other great meta has been written about these choices-- in particular, how well Mephistopheles fits Crowley to a tee, which I really, really agree with. You could assume then that the reasons why more audience-known demons like Astoreth and Asmodeus have never shown up in GO-- and we've met the highest-ranking demons already-- is because they actually *have* and they're all just really Crowley.
In demon lore, Astaroth is part of the "evil trinity" with Beezlebub and Lucifer and is a high-ranking demon in Hell... as well as is basically a genderbent serpent goddess with Crowley traits... so safe to say that's one of Crowley's aliases. Crowley has also had his name of "Crowley" for thousands of years by S1 but when he's rolling up in The Bentley in 1.01, Ligur and Hastur clarify what Crowley's "calling himself up here these days", indicating that he might have gone by more names than we might have realized.
Asmodeus, as we all probably know by now, is the demon of lust. A French novel from the 18th century also popularized the idea of Asmodeus as a sort of Cupid, which also goes along with Crowley, who loves love and got genuine joy out of trying to set up Maggie and Nina. So... from Shax's perspective, why *wouldn't* you want Crowley? He's the fine as fuck, Serpent of Eden, legendary prince of fucking lust here lol.
Shax showed up to reclaim his apartment for Hell and you know she expected a scene the likes of which have not been seen on Earth since a post-concert hotel suite occupied by Led Zeppelin lol. She was expecting (fantasizing lol) about having to wade through a rock music blasting, orgiastic drug den to find Asmodeus in his sex dungeon of a bedroom, somewhere in the black silk sheets beneath three playthings.
You know she actually found Crowley, alone, having just finished vacuuming the most fastidiously clean flat this side of Heaven, fully dressed and watching Barefoot Contessa on his massive plasma screen while the only drugs being mixed were special-blend fertilizer for his houseplants. Ina was making Jeffrey red-wine braised short ribs and Crowley didn't say so to Shax, of course, but he's always on the lookout for something his angel might like for dinner. Hang on a second, Shax, gotta save this recipe to my favorites...
At least the black silk sheets were accurate? lol
What probably confuses Shax a little is that she's been meeting up with Crowley and she still wants him and badly, even as it's becoming increasingly clear that he's a bit more complicated than she thought he was. Technically, she should consider him a traitor because of how he betrayed their Master but he's hot, ok, and maybe it's a little sexy to be so bad that you'd defy Satan? (Aziraphale agrees lol.)
Shax has Mr. Brown-level fantasies about where this could go. Crowley was a favorite of Satan's and she can bring him back into the fold. She can heal him. Yeah, this lady demon has gone and got herself one of those 'I can fix him' disaster scenarios. She hates this for her too but she can't help it. He's so sexy. She's been in Hell for a long time. She's sleeping in the bed and showering in the tropical rainforest paradise dream shower of Asmodeus himself, ok?
She's undoubtedly tried to get him to stay. She's so offered for him to live with her in secret and Crowley nearly choked on the air he doesn't need to breathe trying not to laugh at the irony of that one. It's not Shax's fault that he's just not that into her. She's a bad bitch and everything. That's just not his thing. He's just the lonely GI who basically fell asleep during a performance of The Ladies of Camelot. He has always given off the impression that he's into everything there is to sell the whole 'demon of lust' thing but he's really not. Shax doesn't know that, though, because to know that is to know Crowley well and Shax does not.
Does Crowley know that Shax is into him? Yeah, he does.
Shax's thing for him is basically the same thing as when Crowley tries to make a phone call after having taken out the mobile phone network for miles. It's the oh, shit, right, that thing I did that's now fucking up my day in the present... He didn't lead her on specifically as much as he just gave off the vibe in general that he's this debauched, wild, so very wicked demon and, well... if your name is Aziraphale, that's not terribly inaccurate lol... but if it's not, then it's actually not true at all...
...and this is why Shax cannot for the fucking life of her figure out what the deal is with Crowley and this angel.
Yes, Shax is trying to goad Aziraphale into confirming that he has Gabriel in this scene but this scene also comes off as Shax so incredibly done with how jealous she is over this, in her eyes, ridiculous being, and she's bitchy as all fuck about it. There were other ways to crack at Aziraphale than over his relationship with Crowley and she goes at that hard. She calls The Bentley an old piece of junk when she's really clearly calling Aziraphale that and saying that she doesn't know why Crowley hasn't gotten "an upgrade" since, implying that she considers herself just the upgrade Crowley needs. She brings up 1941 via the rumors that she heard "80, 90 years ago" that Crowley and Aziraphale were "an item", which we know are at least partially derived from what happened with Furfur, who his Shax's closest friend and totally has tried to tell her that this thing she has for Crowley is hopeless because he's doing that angel, Shax. (Poor, pining Furfur lol.)
Shax knows somewhere that Furfur is probably correct but she's decided to pretend that it's Furfur's thing for her that could have caused him to misconstrue at least part of it, right, because the demon of lust only having eyes for one being, let alone that being being this angel, is absurd to her (even if she thinks she can tame him lol.)
Aziraphale is an angel, for one thing. The bastards who did this to The Fallen and who cast their Master to Hell. Their sworn, hereditary enemy. It was one thing when maybe the angel was a dalliance. Asmodeus, lonely and bored on Earth, tired of all the sex with the mortals, and so very bad that he could corrupt an angel. That's a little hot, actually, if you're Shax, but it's the fact that that... does not appear to be what this relationship is... that unsettles her.
During S2, Shax learns that Crowley has a permanent invite into and keys to the bookshop and that Aziraphale can drive Crowley's car to an extent that Shax even has to trick him to allow her to enter it. The angel really seems like he might be Crowley's partner, which would mean that this wasn't Crowley fucking an angel on a whim in 1941 but that Hell's wild prince of lust has actually secretly been in a romantic relationship with Aziraphale for at least, to Shax's knowledge, almost a century.
The purported baddest demon that ever demoned, shy of the literal devil, is apparently mad for this fusty angel and Shax just cannot get it, ok?
Crowley is a a broody, black-clad rock star and Aziraphale is this twee little bookselling angel to her. Shax thinks maybe this was all part of Crowley's breakdown or something and she's Mr. Brown so she hasn't given up hope here, not for most of S2, but she's mostly been trying to figure out how to get Crowley's attention and that's the funniest part of her whole pash, imo.
Shax has no idea what Crowley is into. She can't figure this out to save her life.
She has no idea that it's over before it started because she is just not what primes the engine of Crowley's star factory over here. It's not personal. He just doesn't have a shred of sexual interest in her. Gabriel is getting more action from Crowley this season and he tried to murder him lol. Crowley's spent millennia cultivating a persona of a sex god and now he's got to live with it and he's just praying he never finds out anything she's fantasizing about him because he shudders at the thought of whatever she envisions them getting up to.
Look at what Shax is wearing when she comes to Earth to meet with Crowley, for one of the more hilarious things...
In Hell, Shax wears modern clothes. When she comes to Earth to meet Crowley in the year 2023, she wears a vintage-inspired outfit that is spanning the mid-1930s through WW2 in style (the era she knows he was involved with Aziraphale, who is her main point of reference for what attracts Asmodeus over here lol)... and the dress has the biggest damn bow ever seen. You could see that bow from space. It's like she's trying desperately to figure out what turns Crowley on and so far she's come up with well, he drives an old car and he's rolled that angel so he likes... old things... vintage clothes, like the angel's. She's trying to out-bow-tie Aziraphale.
Now that Shax can spend time with Crowley alone and the possibility of seducing him is ever-present (lolololol), she's spending time trying to figure out what turns on the prince of lust. She's trying to get Crowley's demonically lustful attention and she's reduced to bow ties, okay, take pity on her... she's just like I don't know what his deal with these are, exactly, as it seems kind of specific... but he can unwrap me anytime if that's his thing...
Then, there's that she's sitting too close to him on the park bench and raking her eyes over him while he's sprawling on it. He's not sprawling in a way meant to be enticing. He's actually mid-existential crisis here but that's fine by Shax. She likes 'em a little dark.
My favorite, though, is a scene that actually parallels S1 in a hilarious way and that's from the hot water boiler scene in the other meta that prompted the ask here but isn't a bit that I mentioned in that one.
As Crowley goes back into the bookshop (and he'd never been happier to be on the other side of that threshold in his life lol), Shax is then as physically close to him as she's ever been. If you notice, she actually inhales twice. The first is a regular breath-- which demons don't technically need to take but yeah lol-- and her expression is all oh Satan, he smells amazing and then she straight up sniffs the air as he opens the door. Girl is huffing her fill over here for those shower fantasies for months to come lol. Crowley knows it as his eyebrows are in his hair as he's turning back around like he's all did she seriously just *sniff* me? ugh...
Shax knows Crowley saw her (honestly, probably also *heard* her... Shax, love, a little subtlety wouldn't kill you...) so she covers it up by pretending like she smelled Gabriel in the bookshop. You smelled the archangel in there, huh, Shax? When you can't get through the door? When Gabriel is the same species as Aziraphale, whose bookshop this is, so this can't be some kind of angel-scent you're claiming you noticed here? lol This then parallels and adds to this Sandalphon scene in S1:
I know there's some debate about if there's such thing as an angelic or a demonic smell but I've actually always taken it to be that there isn't. It would seem to me that it would be hard for them to blend in on Earth if there was and if the demonic one was something off-putting to humans, at least. I think most of us, though, do believe that the "evil" Sandalphon is smelling in the backroom is Crowley but considering that the comment comes from Sandalphon, who is introduced to us with reference to his smiting of people in Sodom and Gomorrah, it honestly just comes off that Sandalphon is a raging homophobe and I've actually always taken that as the reason why Gabriel is here in this scene in the first place.
Absolutely nothing happens in this scene. It's a routine checkup. What is the Supreme Archangel of Heaven doing there? Why is he blowing so much smoke up Sandalphon's ass the whole time? It's kind of like he saw that Michael or someone had assigned Sandalphon to do a checkup of sorts on Aziraphale-- or Sandalphon had assigned himself-- and Gabriel pretended that he wanted to see in person how "the great Sandalphon" worked so that he could tag along and make sure that Sandalphon didn't bother Aziraphale. We also learn that Aziraphale hasn't seen Sandalphon in a long time and I'd bet that Gabriel is responsible for that. Gabriel's 'whatever, idgaf' response to Aziraphale's Jeffrey Archer books comment is so... Gabriel hadn't the first clue who Jeffrey Archer is or why his books would be evil lol. He could have easily further encouraged Sandalphon's pursuit of the "evil" scent. He didn't because he could care less what Aziraphale does in the backroom of his bookshop. If anything, he's jealous of him for having found a way to have some freedom and privacy. Gabriel is queer-- he is like Aziraphale. He's just closeted in S1. He's looking out for Aziraphale here by using his power to shut down Sandalphon and then "you can't have a war without war omg wow you are a poet!" him out of there as fast as is possible. If there truly was an 'evil'/'demonic' smell, Gabriel should have been able to smell it, too, and he doesn't. If he did, he wouldn't have been able to subtly shut down Sandalphon the way he did.
So, Sandalphon isn't smelling a demon. He's smelling another man. The "evil" is that Sandalphon can smell remnants of another cologne that isn't Aziraphale's in the backroom of Aziraphale's bookshop and Sandalphon is a homophobe, so he's implying that Aziraphale having sex and with a man is 'evil', even if there's no direct evidence here of that, just the implication of it.
This then would mean that Shax can't actually smell Gabriel in the bookshop in S2. Like Sandalphon, she's pretending to have a supernatural sense of scent but she's really just smelling Crowley. While Sandalphon was repulsed by the idea of Aziraphale's bookshop backroom having the scent of a man, Shax is just inhaling that same being's scent because omfg. so. good....
...something she can't stand that she has in common with that bastard angel, Aziraphale, who is actually allowed to breathe Crowley in anytime he wants... it's just ridiculous to her. Why the fuck does that beige bookseller get to have the sex god of Shax's dreams in his bed and she doesn't? What could Crowley possibly find attractive about him? That she doesn't know and can't really figure it out shows how little she really knows Crowley and also how little imagination she really has.
#ineffable husbands#good omens#crowley#aziraphale#good omens 2#good omens meta#aziracrow#good omens shax#shax good omens#shax#archangel fucking gabriel#sandalphon#mr brown#of brown's world of carpets
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When you have the realization that Leverage is essentially a D&D campaign set in the real world, there is no going back
So...
Nate: He'd obviously be a Mastermind rogue, but I think it'd be cool if he also had a few levels of paladin in there (because, y'know, Catholic boy and all). I did debate cleric for him, but really, Nate going from Oath of Devotion to Oathbreaker to Oath of Redemption throughout the story makes sense, in a way that being a cleric can't fully encapsulate. Also, he'd still probably be a human in D&D world.
Sophie: There's no other choice for our girl than a bard, and I think it'd be really cool if she's gone through a few colleges in her lifetime---she started out as a Whispers bard when she first met Nate, became a Glamour bard after she attempted to give up grifting and focus on her acting career, and after the first year or so working with the team, she settled into being a Lore bard ('cause they're all about exposing the truths of the corrupt). In the same vein, I don't think Sophie can be anything other than a changeling---why keep on burning a Disguise Self slot, when your body can just do that normally?
Eliot: Battlerager barbarian, Way of Shadow monk. And, yeah, he's a dwarf. He's short, and he has amazing hair.
Parker: Everything about her screams Arcane Trickster rogue---yeah, I know that there's an actual "thief" subclass, but considering that Parker frequently performs feats that low-key defy the laws of physics, it feels only fair to give her some magic. She also feels very tiefling-coded to me, so... yeah.
Hardison: As much as it should make sense to make the hacker-type character an artificer, his skills, to me, read way more School of Divination wizard, especially if we assume they're in a more high-fantasy setting. Hell, he could even have a couple levels of Arcana Domain cleric thrown in there, just to give him a little bit more buff. As for species, I think it'd be cool for Hardison to be an elf. I dunno, it just feels fitting.
Bonus:
Harry: I can think of no other choice for him than the most lawyer-coded class/subclass in the game, and that is the College of Eloquence bard. And, again, I think he's just human. Our Mr. Wilson is "just a guy," through and through.
Breanna: Now, as an engineer and creator of gadgets, she would be perfect as a Battlesmith artificer, no question about it. It'd be pretty cool for her to be a halfling, too---often underestimated, but insanely lucky.
#leverage#leverage: redemption#nate ford#sophie devereaux#eliot spencer#parker leverage#alec hardison#harry wilson#breanna casey#dnd
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So I've had this random AC topic just constantly popping up in my mind that doesn't make sense, so I'm going to ramble about it for a bit under the cut.
The question is: How can the Isu say they're not gods, when the 'Greek' Isu literally rule over 'hell'?
So we all remember in AC2 where Minerva explicitly states the Isu were not gods, simply a people who were highly advanced in both their technology but also in their own minds and bodies.
And that remained true in the AC Lore until the Layla trilogy.
Now Origins can still be said to remain true to this original lore, as you never really see any 'Isu' in either the main game or DLC's. It does have some 'afterlife' realms though that seem kind of...fishy. If gods do not exist, how do the dead continue on in another realm? They are still living in a way, still working and thinking. But Origins doesn't cause too many questions, really.
But Odyssey... That's where the whole 'Isu are not gods' lore falls apart. In the DLC where you visit Elysium, Hades, and Atlantis, there are arguably too many 'godly' things going on to dismiss.
Again, if gods don't exist, how are the souls of the dead in Elysium and Hades? People Kassandra knew in life, and saw die, are in these places ruled by Isu.
In Valhalla, it can be argued that the people in the 'Valhalla simulation' at the end could be hooked up in other areas, like Sigurd and Eivor were. Maybe even in that same place just on a different level. That makes sense, it depicts what the norse believe the afterlife to be like but it's just a simulation, their real bodies are still living, it's just their minds hooked into a machine.
Well, for the time being. Their bodies will die in time.
But Odyssey makes no sense. These people really died, they were buried or burned or whatever. They are not alive in any fashion, and yet they are?
Now, it could be argued that these three places are made up so Kassandra can use those simulations to learn how to use the staff...but I can't really accept that as the truth. If it were, why have Kassandra find Phoebe again? What was the point in helping Hermes or Adonis? In Hades, why have Kassandra help Charon or Brasidas? And as for Brasidas's past, about what he did to a village and why he deserved to be in Hades, Kassandra wouldn't have known about that, and why would the Isu add that to the simulation to begin with?
And while Persephone used those 'Chronos Towers' or whatever to keep watch over Elysium, Hades seemed to actually know everything that went on in his realm. How is that not godly?
The strange creatures in the realms can easily be explained away. The large elk in Elysium were probably real animals in the world at the time the Isu ruled, and all the 'monsters' from greek mythology were created by Aita and Juno but I'm sure there were others that could modify animals to make Hades's hounds and Cerberus.
And the Isu lore in Valhalla is a bit odd as well...
All the Isu for the most part have looked human. And then Valhalla introduces the Jotnar who are still mostly human-esque, but blue, bigger than even regular Isu who were regularly 6'5 or taller, and Loki who could actually shapeshift.
I think the argument could be made that the Jotnar were a sect of Isu who modified themselves into being a separate 'race' as body modification had been mentioned in Odyssey.
You find notes in, I believe, Atlantis about Persephone, Hades, and Poseidon having those glowing sections actually implanted into them and I think they gave them more abilities?
So you have Minerva, Juno and Tinia (and I guess Aita) who are 'plain' Isu, Persephone, Hades and Poseidon who have those implants (and probably more Isu, I can't really remember) and then the maybe Isu Jotnar who are basically a different race?
I don't know, I feel like they went from 'advanced race' to 'magic' since the Layla trilogy had a lot of cool mythos surrounding the cultures that they wanted to incorporate. I think things just got too messy with the Isu and there were too many idea's that they incorporated.
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yooooo this concept is so cool!!! since you have very heavy lore and stuff how much are you planning to change in game events to fit your cannon?
Thank you!!!! :D I have a few different things I'm doing.
First of all, to keep with the lore of all the other clans disbanding, all prompts caused by other clans are being rewritten as rogues, and I'll try to keep them as hostile as possible(mostly by just antagonizing them a lot lol). The gist of why they're so hostile towards SporeClan is that they don't believe that Crowstar was given nine lives and thinks she's acting as a false prophet, and they think it's unfair for them to claim a whole territory as theirs alone when they also need resources.
I will also be avoiding StarClan prompts. Since the clans were cut off from their direct link to StarClan, it's also now harder for StarClan to interact with the living. The only cats that I'll let talk about sensing StarClan are cats with StarClan connection traits, like Crowstar, and even then it'll only be vague, like catching a short burst of legible noise on a radio if that makes sense? I'm also considering giving future leaders only 1 life if they don't have the StarClan traits, but we'll see about that.
I'll be trying to avoid large predators, since the ecosystem in this area can barely account for small ones right now, but that might change in the future as things grow more stable. Plus, I'd like most of the danger, at least for now, to come mainly from rogues, human presence(they're curious about the fungus and wanna study it) or even some internal strife(the founders all grew up in different clans after all!).
I think that's about it, though! At least, I can't think about anything else I really change :')
#this was such a fun ask to answer though!!! thank you so much again <3#hope this makes sense at all its very late for me LMAOO#ask#chitchat#sc lore
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gotta ask abt cogito & the cane, if you don't mind. even as a (phys) disabled person I have a hard time thinking of circumstances with D2 where disabilities wouldn't just be either a. healed by light or b. negligible with abilities or c. too much of risk on the field. hadn't given much thought to exos in regards to all that- I know pretty much nothing about exo anatomy either. I know we see some stuff with banshee's memory impairment, but that's not physical. au thing or did you find a way that the rep makes sense? /gen
Hello! So I think I've talked about it a few times in various Discord servers but didn't make a post so here are all my thoughts on this topic (as examplified by my oc(s))
Case A. Cogito is disabled because he was disabled before he died and it did not cause his death. His exo model is highly custom and a leg he kitbashed from a dead exo (when he was lightless) is very faulty (causes pain when he walks too much or runs, and sometimes doesn't bend).
This could also happen with human/awoken guardians (especially if they were born disabled). As Speaker said: "Devotion inspires bravery, bravery inspires sacrifice, sacrifice leads to death" - it would be fucked up if disabled people were somewhat except from that. If a guardian can be rezzed old (like Osiris) then it probably means that they get rezzed as they were at the point when they died so case closed.
Back to Cogito though - yes, light can help him as a mobility aid (he's a Warlock, he can fly pretty well) but obliviously can't always work (light restriction zones for example). And also yeah, it's very much a problem in the field sometimes. It's a big reason why he does solitary reaserch work and only raids with a big group.
Another example of this would be Kobzar-13 with his poor eyesight (this one is for me. I have very bad eyesight too tho it's not as bad, yet). His optics were damaged some time before he died so now it's like this. He could probably get them fixed but he just rolls with this. His ghost audio describes everything to him in his head which I think would be very cool.
Case B. Wawrzyniec is disabled (amputee) because his arm got cut of by Crota. Aka "various light restricting devices and light restricted zones". In this case soulfire. Cogito's scratch (on his head, I don't always draw them) also goes under this category.
This one is more of a stretch but I think that it's plausible. I guess that guardians more often die in these situations than escape disabled. There is also the fact that ghosts might be not able (or want) to heal certain injuries. You can say that Sloane is a lore example of this.
Another oc example of this would be Enebish who got burn scars and lost an eye during the Red War when the Traveler was caged. I don't really remember if anything was said about it at the time.
Bonus case C. I know that some people headcanon guardians getting disabled because of extended light usage. I personally don't think it makes sense and goes kinda against the healing power of light stuff. Case closed.
And about the non-guardians - multiple characters have these sci-fi prosthetics (Camrin's is super advanced and Variks'es is pretty shabby) that I imagine can depend of how much cash or girlfriend in STEM you have. Eramis even has ones for her both feet so the field must be pretty advanced. There is also brother Vance who is blind and clearly did pretty well (before he jumped into piramid zone and vanished forever (John Bungie, if you heal his eyesight I'll kill you)).
Bungie seems to be generally very indirect when it comes to showing disability. Except for PTSD. Which is to be expected from an fps shooter. Everyone wants a cool robot arm but no one wants to talk about the attitude to disability in different cultures.
Speaking of which - humanity is probably not much different then it's now. There are probably a lot of disabled veterans. I wonder if insulin is expensive in the Last City. Awoken and Cabal are probably weird about it. Neomuni, well, we've seen Maya Sundaresh. Eliksni are the most normal.
So yeah, that's all from me. Thanks for the ask!
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Puts both hands on your shoulders. Talk to me about the sea of thieves Guybrush.
I'm going to boldly assume you are referring to this post that I made (which reminds me... to respond to the other two. And I will so keep an eye out).
And honestly, I'm not sure if you want me to talk about how Melee is a reflection of his psyche, how Guybrush just owns up to it all regardless of the situation, or um... anything else, but if you want specifics, please let me know???
But for now, lets talk Sea of Thieves!
(A word of caution... it's a lot. It's disjointed. It'll make no sense.)
So to recap: the Legend of Monkey Island in a very loose nutshell is Pirate Lord Ramsey sent an invite to a newly wed Guybrush and Elaine to visit the Sea of Thieves because Ramsey genuinely likes Guybrush (and it has me kicking my feet) when LeChuck, who prior to the DLC, was shapeshifting around and stole the Sword of Souls which is just a weaken version of the Burning Blade (I'm still learning the SoT lore... please be patient with me). Doing as such, LeChuck managed to trick Guybrush because the blade has the capability to trap souls and he did it semi-successfully via the Sea of the Damned where your fondest memories become a reality (again, still learning I'm sorry). Elaine managed to evade getting her mind scrambled but Guybrush didn't and is now trapped in a world of his semi-creation (put a pin in that, it's the basis to my ramblings) where he's known as the Legend of Monkey Island and everyone adores him. Ramsey, the Voodoo Lady, Elaine and even Kate Capsize knows that Guybrush needs help. So they recruit us, and it is up to us, the Player, to save Guybrush.
Now that that's out of the way, to ramble time! ...Or at least as coherent as I can because boy oh boy do I have thoughts and I already made anyone willing to listen undoubtedly annoyed haaa.
(and again, if you want specifics, pleeeeease let me know) To start with: Dream Melee. The whole purpose of Dream Melee, according to LeChuck, is to trap Guybrush in a dream he will never want to wake up from. Ramsey even says that if one doesn't leave, eventually they're trapped in it forever. So when we get to Melee as the player, eeeeeeeeeveryone is gushing and fanboying over Guybrush and how cool and brave and almost super human he is.
(Even LeChuck (and the Voodoo Lady) point out that Dream Melee couldn't really happen if it weren't for that ego of his.) And like, yeah. It can't be said that Guybrush doesn't have an ego to him. He does, but it's not as loud as when he was younger. Over the course of the franchise (if you're like me and look at it as a whole), it settles down to a point where he's content with his identity and self... kind of. He still has it, but it's not as neeeeearly as obnoxious as it is in, say, MI2. And this DLC takes place after CMI according to the developers, so this is a Guybrush after being held captive in Big Whoop and his ego (while, again, still there) has been THOROUGHLY humble checked.
Now here's the funny thing about Guybrush: For as big as his ego tends to get, for as much as he brags about being a Mighty Pirate. He never chases for greater power. Ever.
In all of his adventures, whether he caused it or not, it was almost always about making a name for himself. He never strives to be the Governor, controller of the Caribbean, or even a God. He just wants, on a surface level, to have his name known (it's why he's so shocked when Morgan admits to his legacy being known and she was his fan). It's why he always brags his name about the deeds he has done (and if you look at the stuff he accomplished on paper, it's pretty dang impressive).
But even deeper than that, he wants love. He wants to be loved and even respected. This is a character that has a buuuuuunch of walls up and even puts on a mask just to hide what he's feeling because he is going under what he thinks being a pirate is all about (which he has done in the past: MI2).
Yet LeChuck being LeChuck, completely misunderstood Guybrush's wants. He completely misunderstood Guybrush's want for love and respect. LeChuck thinks what Guybrush wants is what he himself wants: absolute power. The people of Dream Melee love Guybrush, sure, but not for who he is. Not because he rightfully earned it. They love him in a way that inflates his ego. Hell, it's not even love: it's a very twisted adoration. Which is different. LeChuck also never strove for love from a genuine place, but adoration via force.
And something I found so striking and even painful at times was Melee while under the spell vs out of it.... or rather, Guybrush's mind while under vs out of it.
While under the spell, you can see the grip LeChuck has on both mind and residents: people praising the Legend of Monkey Island, adoring, fawning, practically obsessed with Guybrush. And Guybrush, caught so thoroughly under the spell, doesn't even do much to fight it, he gets tired quickly when he exerts too much (which would make sense... because lets be real, eventually Guybrush would have noticed something a-miss the longer he was energetic if him post-spell breaking is any indicator when he realizes about Elaine).
The people, or rather LeChuck's spell, kept enticing Guybrush to stay in the dream. Kept praising and admiring him.
When the spell breaks, and we talk to the people... jeeeeeeeeez they are so relentless. They're mean, they belittle, and they mock Guybrush so thoroughly. Maybe there's that small group that doesn't entirely hate on him, but it's a lot smaller compared to those that do.
....And that's Guybrush's mind when he's aware and not under a spell. Because that Dream Melee is made from his own internal mind, and going by that logic, when the spell broke, Guybrush's views on himself is not. Good. It's bad, terribly horribly bad. And that's something that is probably, usually kept under a tight wrap so as not to spill it over.
After the spell is broken, before the end of Chapter 2 and throughout Chapter 3, he berates himself a lot, preps himself for the insults and mockery from the people or even Elaine (which, for the record, I adore that she doesn't ever do). And he's not... wrong. People are berating him and talking down even well into chap 2 (I'm looking at you, Mancomb).
And yet, the only ones that vocally stand up for him and tell him, repeatedly, it's not his fault, is Elaine, Ramsey and us. Which Guybrush registers but clearly has a hard time believing. He has a hard time believing he's loved and respected even though Ramsey a.k.a Pirate Lord of the Sea of Thieves, multiple times throughout the DLC, mentions how he respects Guybrush and views him as both a friend and an equal.
But something that I admire about Guybrush in this DLC, even with his constant self-beratement, he goes on to say how he wants to earn that respect on his own merit, not in a forceful manner. He wants to earn it all just like how Ramsey did which was through hard work. He also takes maaaaassive accountability for the whole ordeal even though this, again, isn't the real Melee, he didn't need to ask for forgiveness or anything to the town that is dragging his name through the mud... but he does.
And more importantly, he doesn't up and runaway the second he's reunited with Elaine.
He feels at fault with what happened to both Melee and the Sea of Thieves, and he just.... owns it. Even with his sense of self being probably at its (probably) lowest.
Like... this DLC really truly highlighted why I adore Guybrush as my all time favorite character. They could have so easily wrote him off as some bumbling, moronic, loser who can't do anything right and be an outright bully to even us, but... he's not. He's not any of those things. He stumbles, says really corny jokes, goofs a big, and can be a bit of a ham, but he's very focused on what he wants and needs once the spell is lifted.
And more to that, what has me just, obsessed with this DLC, is how Guybrush essentially opens up to us. I made mention about his tone, how one is the masked tone and the other his real voice and it stands to point out that only the people that truly know him get the honor of hearing the real version. And we get to hear it. He trusts us enough for him to drop his mask and rely on our help. He jokes about how he'll do all the heroics, but he really does think of all the plans for us (finding the key to the Monkey Head, navigating the catacombs, and even the weaponry to fight LeChuck).
He even, though the battle is done by then, comes in ready to fight by our side. He doesn't go "oh, I was gonna come... but ah... you got it." He genuinely sounds disappointed that he couldn't be there for us, that he couldn't make right but is still relieved it was handled. He even waves us off because he still wants to do some damage control with Elaine regarding this fake world and he didn't bemoaned about it and I'm just!!!!
I'm over the moon with his character. Even though his mind was scrambled with (WHICH IS A RANT IN AND OF ITSELF I SHOULD ADD), and even though the writers could have so easily wrote him in that moronic dimwitted kind of way... Guybrush persevered and really established his status as why he's a renowned and beloved character.
#monkey island#....I have a lot to say about this DLC and there is more I promise.#I just... think I should stop here. For reasons. Such as I now know there is in fact a limit on tumblr
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have u ever shared the lore of torlynn's guardian/dream visitor? :O
i haven't yet! at least not directly—i have posted about the oc she looks like: torlynn's previous girlfriend, a human storm sorcerer/oath of the ancients paladin named thalia adrian, who died in terrible circumstances about a century ago. specifically, she's the version of thalia that torlynn first met. when she died, she was about 40 human years old.
those terrible circumstances happen to be extremely plot relevant! anyway, like many people, i always headcanon the guardian as someone significant in tav's life, either someone who previously guided them and/or haunts them. and thalia—and those terrible, plot-relevant circumstances of her death—haunt torlynn so so so much! especially awhen the party enters the shadowlands at the beginning of act 2 . eyes emoji.
something else important: in addition to all the cool things above, thalia is also a bhaalspawn. if you know bg1/bg2 lore and raised your eyebrows at thalia's last name, you are very correct: she's actually gorion's ward, the protagonist of the first two games. (i haven't gotten a chance to play them yet, so all my info is from various wikis. i definitely plan to, though!)
the full torlynn/thalia story has expanded into many rooms in my mind palace, so i'll put the rest under a read more for anyone interested haha.
HISTORY:
a century and a half before the events of bg3, torlynn was a high harper based in the sword coast. before that, she served the harpers since her early 100's, participating in multiple campaigns/adventure parties across faerûn for the next three centuries. a century and a half before the events of bg3, torlynn was a harper before she was anything or anyone else, wholly dedicated to the cause. she also took her leadership role very seriously and gave up most personal relationships as a result, even amongst fellow harpers. she also became more careful than the unreserved, reckless, hotheaded person she'd been in youth.
more important context: torlynn's mom was a powerful necromancer and well-known in her academic circles. back in the day, she'd do all sorts of necromantic experiments in the baldur's gate sewers, as so much weird shit happens there. including bhaalist cults every few centuries or so. when torlynn was still in school, her mom went missing down there and absolutely everyone stonewalled her when she tried to find out why, including her dad (shareholder at sorcerous sundries) and the flaming fist (who she briefly joinde after graduating wizard school). she eventually determines that bhaalists were involved, but never found any trace of her mom.
SO when sarevok causes problems on purpose in baldur's gate, torlynn is right in the thick of it for both harper reasons and personal reasons, pulled to the home that hadn't been home in a very, very long time. (frankly unsure if this counters bg1 canon but this is also my mind palace <3). and then she meets thalia: bright, kind, reckless, very chaotically good, and a bhaalspawn. and a sorcerer, which simply doesn't help matters regardless of how torlynn is a wizard who cannot stand the company of other wizards. (parents made her go to wizard school).
RELATIONSHIP:
they ummmm do not hit off right away. although torlynn very much believes in the harper tenets of Free Will and Liberty Over Systems, she's also a big fan of rules and organization and systems that facilitate free will. and, of course, breaking rules and systems that are stupid and don't make sense. (this all very wizard of her, but don't tell her that) (thalia tells her that, repeatedly). she also doesn't trust thalia's dark urge for very valid reasons. this all manifests in clashes that annoy everyone in the general vicinity. but this is a classic enemies-to-lovers, babey! they experience trials and tribulations, defeat thalia's loser brother, and fall very hard for each other.
their relationship is always a bit tumultous, as they don't stop clashing about the fundamentals. bhaal is also determined to make thalia succomb to her urge, meaning her bhaalspawn dreams get a lot worse around torlynn. but these bitches love each other! they're mutually obsessed! lesbian devotion > your shitty dad, every time. their differences are ultimately complements; torlynn grounds thalia, helping her perceive things like fantasy spreadsheets and consequences for your actions, while thalia helps torlynn find that balance between her Great Harper Responsibilities and like, having fun lmao. experiencing life to its fullest extent after spending her own protecting others. [insert a 50k relationship development fic here].
LET'S JUMP 20 YEARS:
in that time, thalia has also joined the harpers, albeit in a less formal capacity. she and torlynn spend half those years together and half apart as thalia 1) avoids murdering her, and 2) searches for other bhaalspawn across the realm, determined to save them from their urge. (she rarely succeeds. according to the wiki page for gorion's ward, something that sets gorion's ward apart from other bhaalspawn was their supportive upbringing, which very few have). at some point, they hear about a weird situation brewing beyond the mountain pass. some guy named ketheric is causing problems on purpose and shar is involved. can't be good.
and man, you know most of what happens next. the harpers join forces with the druids from the grove and together they defeat ketheric and his dark justiciars. in this version of the story, however, they almost lose. their forces have dwindled into nothing and help isn't on the way and torlynn's best ranger flew off the fucking handle and started torturing enemy scouts. one night, huddled under a tent, shar's darkness already clinging to every corner, thalia brings up a strategy they haven't considered. dire to be sure, but don't these people deserve every dire strategy we have left to give? aren't you always saying that to win, we must sometimes be willing to lose? torlynn says Under No Circumstances Are You Allowed to Do That. i will make sure you never have to do that.
thalia bristles; she hates when torlynn pulls rank. (when anyone pulls any type of rank). she doesn't say anything else because she doesn't want to get mean. torlynn is too terrified to say anything and too ashamed of her fear to talk about that either. so they don't talk again, not until that final battle when another fucking shadow squadron crests over the field and thalia Does Just That.
that being: assume her slayer form, succombing to the very urge she dedicated her entire life to fighting. and because the slayer's only motivation is Kill Everyone, there's only one way to stop her from turning on the harpers and the druids after the dark justiciars are all dead and gone. and torlynn makes sure she's the one to stop her. she owes that end to her. she wants to hold her one more time, even if what she's holding is a very scary creature with lots of pointy limbs.
AFTERMATH:
when the war is officially over, torlynn is not well. like fundamentally just had her belief in anything shaken and stirred and then exploded and also exploded again. she's dedicated her life to this cause and now the lands are cursed and thalia is dead, turned into the monster she hated. perhaps her mother was right about everything turning to rot, so you may as well use that rot to your own ends. except torlynn is bad at rotting, so she goes to bother her mother's god about getting her girlfriend back. but, well, thalia isn't with myrkul. she's with bhaal. and he's noooot letting her go so easily.
that's when torlynn loses that last grip on her previous life. she deserts the harpers, throws herself into necromantic research, and decides she's going to rescue thalia from bhaal if it's the last thing she does. she spends about 75 years doing this. and then something too complicated for this already too-long post happens that causes her to abandon this mission. winds up teaching 10-year-olds how to conjure ice at her old school in waterdeep, still adrift and bitter and mostly unwell. that's roughly her status quo until the nautiloid scoops her up from the road between waterdeep and baldur's gate.
CONCLUSION:
anyway! the emperor sees this big ball of noxious grief in torlynn's mind and is like Oh fuck yes a little bowl of seeds for me (perfect circumstances to manipulate the scary, highly-competent elf lady). he would have succeeded but torlynn has the power of friendship and gay sex with karlach on her side.
HEY, THEY KIND OF LOOK LIKE TALDER?
you got me there! torlynn kind of started out as an alder uber; i wanted to make an older lady oc who was both a magic user and some kind of military commander. besides their penchant for repression and the way grief is a huge part of their stories, torlynn wound up pretty different overall! thalia shares some physical traits with tally, but she's also taken a life of her own since that initial Haha Wouldn't It Be Funny If brainstorm. if anyone's interested i'm very happy to elaborate, but this is already too long LMAO. p.s. if you read the whole thing i love you
#baldur's gate 3#bg3#tav bg3#bg3 tav#torlynn alderstar#yell.txt#fashionablyfyrdraaca#ask#thank you so much for asking!! apologies for writing a wiki article!!!
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why do you like chuuya /gen, like I dont mean to sound rude in anyway but why😭🙏
this is going under a read more because i started yapping and couldn’t stop. i’m sorry
his personality. hes so funny and hes such a bitch i love him. but also he’s an incredibly dynamic character. he’s well written and tbh that’s enough for me to like him already. he’s had so much shit thrown at him and very well could have become a horrible person but he’s not. others care about him and he cares about others. he hasn’t let himself become as bitter as he could have been. he is still so full of humanity despite it despite everything SEE NEXT PARAGRAPH
i’m a sucker for characters that are entirely completely human and yet don’t think they are, or struggle with whether they are or not (especially thinking so because of all the reasons that they are— but i suppose chuuya doesn’t really fit that part so i won’t get into that now.) like yes chuuya has (or had, i guess) a reason to believe he isn’t, but does that really matter when faced with the fact that you have emotions and blood just like everyone else? does your make matter when you’re not so different after all? it’s existential. it makes u think.
his crime list is about as short as he is and i find that wonderful
his lore/past/backstory whatever you want to call it. not even, he’s still going through it. man 😭. he’s had so much loss but not a single goodbye and i think that’s a really fucking good (and depressing) concept. he has never had the chance to mourn properly. he acts like he did.
hes cunty
his dynamic w dazai i find very compelling too. like yes they bicker and yes they fight and yes they “hate” each other (they don’t) but they also trust each other with their lives and have left them in each other’s hands too many times to count. it shows u the depth of both their bond but also the characters individually. they’re not entirely self sufficient.. they can obviously take care of themselves but they’re at their best when working togegher. i thinkt hats cool. FREINDSHIP IS MAGIC!!1! no but it shows u that even the strongest people arent at their best until theyre able to connect. not that dazai and chuuya have a model relationship at all… but there’s trust there. and that’s enough
hes hot
he makes me so viscerally and upsettingly sad
dog motifs. ok hear me OUT i’m SORRY but tbh the title was what got me interested in bsd in the first place. everyone is a stray in this show and i like that very much. i love characters that are LOYAL to a FAULT. i love characters with gnashing teeth and wagging tails. i love characters that hold so tight onto things their hands hurt and they end up causing them to flee. that “everything i’ve ever loved has claw marks on it”??? yeah give me that shit i will eat it up EVERY TIME. i love characters that are blinded by their senses of duty, not in the way that they’d do anything whoever they’re loyal to asks of them (though that is a nice dynamic too, i don’t think that’s as Chuuya ™️ as the other i’m talking about), but in the way that they’d lay down their life without a second thought (or caring about how those people see them). a dog that is beat may bite but but but it will still have its duty. even if it hates it. (<- see also AKUTAGAWA akutagawa is the reigning champion of dog motifery that is probably why i love him so much. but that is akutagawa. and i’m talkign about chuuya so im gonna dhut up now) ) i like characters with Three Betrayals COUGH COUGH COU💥💥💥💥ogh mymgod scafamocuhe 3 betrayals chuuya flags sheep dazai Im HOWLIFJG someone KILL ME NEOW ok thay doesnt make aense i just thought it was funny. anywa
fanbs fanbs* FANGS idc if they’re fake
thanks for comign ti my ted talk 🙏 i may add more later. but i didn’t want to. talk. too much. um. i think that’s out the window though
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well i maybe have some theories/questions
you already know i came from tiktok😏
1. so i’m sensing that Edin is going to be Adie’s future love interest/friend/enemy/?… I MEANN they’re both toddlers currently and they’re both supernatural
2. I know you mentioned before that you wanted to do like a magic school type of story for Adie which I think is so fucking cool!! Maybe they’ll meet when they enroll whether that’s as children or teens.
3. And for miss Ellie she’s currently a human right? Will she become a werewolf like her siblings when she becomes old enough? And if she does will she be going to that school as well or is it just for spellcasters? And is that the same for Rhys who’s currently a child or is he going to just stay in normal school? I assume Amir is too old to go and he already has a story of his own.
4. This one may be a stretch but I love reading the Sims 4 lore. There’s a character with a similar name to Adelina— Avelina who was Greg’s late wife. We’ve seen Greg fight Amir in that one episode and we know that Greg is miserable because he’s all alone now (lore wise). If they are related we know that Greg and Avelina used to be mooncasters (idk if it’s the same as spellcasters) before they became werewolves. Is there any link here or am I tripping? I mean I know you read the lore too because Lux DeMarco appears in Amir’s story (😉)
5. off topic but I love Amir. Like that’s my son with his little boyfriends. 💙💙 You got 2 men obsessed with you I know he’s living life.
6. L. Faba is obviously up to no good.. I mean she is the sage of mischief magic. This ties into my first statement about the magic school story. We know there’s going to be more to the plot then Adie just going to school. She’s gotta fight someone and save the day right??!!!! So I wondering if Miss Faba is trying to cause something to happen— I assume to Tomax because she was deadset on trying to make the man practice Dark Magic.
What if something happens to him that makes him evil?? Or even do something to Simeon or Grace?? We know in the lore Grace and Tomax are roommates (and they were roommates..🤭) and in your story they’re very close.
ok this is it for now i feel like my brain is fried
SO glad you came over to Tumblr with me, your comments give me life everytime lmao 🥹🤌🏾✨
maaayybbeee 🤭
I did want to do a magic school type beat but that was a bit before I expanded the lore. Right now (In the next update, I'll touch on it a bit) Nora does NOT want Adie in the Magic realm or any of the sages to know about them. at all. She wants nothing to do with them, the past, her involvement in the war, all of it and honestly, her little magical trigger finger is itching to finish what she started tbh , more on that later.
1000% Ellie will be a werewolf. At this point it's kinda like a family business/rite of passage. Amir is grown grown now 🥹 but Sonny and his bunch will continue to hold down their ranch and keep vampires in check. But they actually play a pretty big part in what's to come and when my Briar legacy and Fallen Angel series meet, we will see ALOT of them.
No link. The only link werewolves has is that they are descendants of Mooncasters and once upon a time they lived in the Magic Realm with all the occult before the Spellcasters got all high and mighty. Now werewolves just do their own thing and fight vampires. But I really don't see them having much involvement with Spellcaster drama other than possibly whooping vamp ass when needed.
I love those boys. Other than my OGs Honey and Amina, def my favorite couple(s) 🥹
L. Faba really about to put Tomax in a world of hurt...which is crazy because he's really already emotionally and mentally in shambles. I suppose that's why she picked him. He's the weakest. This update should be out in a little bit
I saw that they were roommates which made me go hmmmmm 🤔 interesting 🧐 and exactly why we'll see them roll around in the hay from time to time. But from my most recent update, I expand on Grace's ability to heal a little and really she's all about making people feel better via touch...so maybe there’s romance involved maybe she’s trying to help out an old friend because therapy doesn’t exist in the Magic Realm ig lmao 😵💫
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What's ur full analysis on Susie
Ohoho….😏😏😏I suppose…..I’ll Unleash the Thoughts all at once😏😏😏😏😏normally you’d need more kirbyliker14EXP(exposure points) for it to be comprehensible but recommended levels are always wrong (this is the worst intro I have ever made
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Ok first of all to get That out of the way uhh the whole star Allies Susie desc got mistranslated(classic star allies!) basically it’s supposed to be like “helping other planets with technology” and the whole exterminate thing is supposed to be just crushing bad people okay are we clear did we get that good (also I’m gonna be putting my Suzy kaomoji between points because I Said So(It might act b me favorite ?? I’m reely happy w how it turned out 😙my magolor kaomoji ᴑ /₍⸌╷╷⸍₎\ ᴑ is close but I think it’s mostly bc I felt proud as hell after figuring out how to put the ears on one line)
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Ok first off her lore basically blah blah Suzy was Exposed To The Internet At A Young Age
Fun(?????????) fact😋 as it makes no sense for Max to have done those experiments with star dream with his only daughter in close proximity so it’s highly likely that Suzy disobeyed her fathers warnings and prohibition and technically caused her own disappearance (why am I mentioning dis??😏ermm aheu heu you’ll c)
Suzy returns after seeing the Horrors and now works for Max
Come to think of it idk if Suzy even knew of max’s real goal like ik the novel made it so he openly misses her but ?? The novel also made him live at the end so No Im not counting that data in my
Anyway blah blah Suzy feels resentment for max and how either A)simple minded his goal of “unlimited money” is or B) that he doesn’t even recognize her
Notably this is prevalent in the Japanese version as shown which means he intentionally tried to forget his feelings (in other words what makes a human=human) and then started forgetting them more after more usage but didn’t see a problem with it (why are the haltmanns Like That)
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Anyway time for the main story events
It’s been established that this is after Susie clawed her way out of hell(???) (before magolor made it cool) at like idk 11 years old so that’s slightly less impressive than the average Kirby adventure
Also that max has now lost abt 90% of his self (willingly??? Idk don’t ask me) and appears to focus entirely on money
Mr maxx pulls a questionable rant out at Kirby and tries to obliterate this 9 year olds entire world after losing a single battle but Suzy takes the helmet right after it touches his head(a tiny bit too late to enact the action?? A tiny bit too early???? Is this the worst outcome????Could he have survived and been reasoned with after defeat ???? I still don’t know STOP ASKING ME) and she enacts her famous line
She was so real for that she yippyd before it was cool oh anyway she then comes out(WOOOO GOOD FOR HER💥💥💥💥💥) as someone who’s been Against max all this time (in other words…disobeying her father…..😏😏😏I can’t believe Suzy made a Suzy reference)
However her calculated plan backfires and as the helmet touched his head but he didn’t have the helmet he gets 99% of his entire self destroyed and now the cold calculated machine decides to destroy the universe (erm…WHOOPS!😂😂😂 susie is so losercoded I can’t believe everyone calls her the Normal Person how do you screw up a plan this bad like seriously oh my god marx and magolor enacted their plan perfectly and taranza managed to technically bring the heros of the lower worlds to sectonia but Susie completely screwed up they should start calling her Losie)
However when learning of this susie doesn’t react in a normal way like there’s no sulking or sad face she gets up and immediately thinks of a plan to defeat star dream (giving Kirby the gimmick that notably cannot fly for very long without certain abilities and has quite short ranged attacks) then meta knight shows up n gives a much better plan by using his cool ship
As you can see her body language is all formal and cool and she’s all commanding and stuff (her autistic stare has captivated my soul) HOWEVER😏😏😏😏😂😏ohhh babyyyy I was dying after realizing this
As soon as they fly off screen susie immediately establishes a more desperate pose and language (in like. Every other version I think this is the American version even Europe got it better Suzy uses a formal name for Kirby instead of pinky)
In other words Suzy refuses to show her weakness in front of people(LOSIE THEORY CONFIRMED??????) then at the end she immediately leaves pop star instead of like lingering around to celebrate with Kirby like taranza did or the end of rtdl with Kirby’s chums (u can probably use ur imagination for the possible reasons she chooses to be alone😙😙😙)
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ok robobot events over wooo anyway I Wasnt Sure How To Title This
Robobot is known for having a similar lore story to Taranza where villian that dies actually lost their self prior to the events of the game and the villian who gets redeemed had a persona connection with them
When we later see Suzy in Allies she appears Completely Normal And Fine compared to taranza
However I really doubt that she’s just FINE I mean you saw during the cutscenes I bet offscreen she’s tormented by thinking abt what her dad could have been and how he ended up and how she caused his fate (ok I changed my mind I don’t want losie theory to be confirmed take it back)
Notably, she’s completely dedicated herself to max’s company even though she seemed to really dislike him at the end(she coulda just made a whole new company)is this her way of apologizing for destroying him ?? A way of making her dad proud ????? Where do these questions keep coming from
While taranza gets to openly grieve and dedicate some time to receiving closure Suzy does Not the whole thing abt planet robobot is constantly upgrading and improving and so on and GRIEF is COUNTER PRODUCTIVE (oouuhhhghgghh I feel like things obtained from evolution that are counterproductive to modern life could b soo interesting to explore with Suzy like uh adrenaline giving you paranoia and complex emotions such as guilt and embarrassment being a side effect of brains developing more)
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No more “girlboss” Susie we’ve advanced to LOSIE susie now 👍👍👍👍👍👍
#kirbyliker12thoughts#susie haltmann#susanna patrya haltmann#susie kirby#ask#it’s..reely l8 here oh man DOUBLE WHAMMY
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Hello hi-
So what's up with birds?
Hear me out, in splatoon, there are literally so many birds still- existing in the world, and I mean- that's cool and all, but I feel like there is too much of a opportunity being missed here!
First of all, the weird lore implications- that certain birds somehow managed to survive while all humanity is gone ish- frankly incredible, especially since it's been enough years for sea life to evolve into humanoids! (And I know that there is an explanation for how this was made so much faster) But it's still incredible to think that these birds have literally gone through no changes even after so many wars and centuries, like-
Nintendo could have evolved birds too-
Now, I'm not saying that they have to go the humanoid route! I'm just saying that I want to know how these birds survived the post apocalyptic apocalypse so well! Maybe by having birds evolve to be ocean dwellers, like penguins and sucks- so how are sparrows still alive?? And more importantly-
Why are they not some incredibly popular pet?? Like- there are no mammals, there are close to no reptiles from what I've observed, so sea life would only know birds, and wouldn't they be curious about the animals that have tamed the skies? Or even more so, be curious about specifically pigeons given the fact that- pigeons would be a very easy animal for them to domesticate/tame, cause they where already animals that we humans have tamed! Nintendo could have easily just added in Inklings or octolings keeping pigeons as pets! Or even better
War
Humans have used pigeons as an war animal for the longest times! And given the fact this is a game very connected to war, wouldn't that be a very interesting idea? Having pigeons that are already in game as a animal that was used in war just makes sense! Especially given how octolings don't have a lot of electricity (given they have no zap fish) and are a very military based species, the idea of them still having pets that they use to send letters just makes me happy-
I understand the hype on making sea bunnies a type of pet that inkfish keep as pets- but c'mon! Make pigeons the equivalent of a dog in this world- or make a "crazy pigeon lady"-
#not canon-?#please pigeons are so cute- they need more love!#I'd love to hear what people think in comments or reblogs and whatever headcnaon they have made up!#please im so starved-#birds arent real#splatoon#splat2n#splatoon 3#headcanon#rat rambles#inkling#octoling#The great turf war headcanons#splatoon headcanons
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the Pokémon Conquest Crash Course: the Headcanons
alright so here's the nitty gritty on how we made conquest make any remote amount of sense. Why is god here? Why do legendaries just magically pop up? Why is Ransei named shitsfuckedville? All will be explained!
Basic history:
For one reason or another, Arceus created Ransei* as a part of a Higher Plane(TM), a bridge between earth and "the heavens". Probably because a lot of legendaries are very physical and that doesn't super mesh well with the whole transcendent heavenly being concept, so there needs to be a transitional space.
*Ransei is not called that yet.
There are people on it! They have cool powers! They're, like, somewhere between pokemon and human. They're human, but they can communicate with pokemon, they evolve like pokemon, all that cool stuff. Arceus even has a human they're buddies with! They're in charge. :)
Oh no, the people are fighting! Arceus' bestie dies! Arceus is pissed off by this, so they kick this little continent out, says fuck you guys then if you want to fight then you're gonna fight forever and I'm only letting you come back if it fucking stops. Downside: they're still weird and liminal, so they're also, like.... not quite on Earth? Well, they are, but time is... weird here. They kinda exist at every time? Sorta? Also, they're called Ransei now.
This is also why legendaries can just kinda.... pop up whenever.
Flash forward a few - hundred? Thousand? Honestly, we don't know - years. So now there's this new human that Arceus thinks is neat. But Ransei is still, yknow, bad, so they can't hang out. :( They give this new human some encouragement, but a rules are rules. No helping until Ransei isn't fighting anymore!
(This human is Hiroko.)
Uh, so, Warriors?
Warriors are kinda like psychics. And also kinda like Aura Guardians in the anime. And also kind of not comparable to anything else. Linking is a sort of metaphysical bond between a human and pokemon, in a way that fundamentally alters both of them. The stronger it is, the bigger the changes.
(Note that I forgot in the canon bit: not everyone in Ransei has the capability to link with pokemon. Only those that do are called warriors.)
Warriors can only link with so many pokemon (that part is canon) as it can be strenuous to have a lot at once. The stronger a link is, the harder it is to separate a pokemon and warrior. Putting a great deal of distance between them or certain artifical barriers, like pokeballs, can cause mental and physical damage to both parties. Do not separate them!
anything else?
Nothing important. There's a lot of smaller lore and politics and what have you that we've developed over the years, but this is Ransei 101. None of that matters right now.
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what ethnicity do you think the mikaelsons should be, if nordic isn't correct? just curious!
hi!! please sit with me for this, because we're gonna talk about the absolute mess that is the tvdu lore since jp insisted that mystic falls should be the centre of the world, completely missing why everything was happening to fells church in the books. putting under the cut because i couldn't stop rambling i fear.
so, the mikaelsons being nordic is absolutely fine. in fact i think they did something really cool by making them vikings and they missed potential from that by never going any deeper with it. astryr isn't half black because i think the mikaelsons should be poc, that is another issue that actually came about from a couple of months of discussion with a friend.
the problem is, unfortunately, klaus. i'll be honest and say i think it's really dumb that jp had the mikaelsons arrive in america a bit too early when it's well known that vikings had a presence in england and there are even confirmed settlements in canada. it would have been so easy for them to put their human home in england as farmers, which is why i do that in my canon so that there's no whitewashing going on with klaus. it would have also made sense with the accents in my opinion. or, even, to say that most of them were born before they travelled to america.
but. canon does insist that the mikaelsons after elijah were born in mystic falls. which causes the problem. it was already iffy that klaus' father would be a white man since he was the alpha of a pack of local wolves, but you could have room there if you fiddled some things around and said ansels pack and the mikaelsons were all part of a nordic settlement that travelled there together.
then s4 gave us the origin of werewolves, which actually brings in a different problem i have with the casting in tvdu (the french quarter being overwhelmingly white, making the lebonairs one of the first werewolves that all descend from a native tribe yet all the nola wolves are white, the fact when they did cast poc it was usually as a villain.) but yeah. s4 confirmed all werewolf packs came from one native tribe. and logistically that is a problem, cause at that time period? it makes absolute no sense at all that the werewolves in mystic falls would be white. it'd still be...odd even if the mikaelsons did go to england instead but we're already fucking with history so who's to say that some of those original werewolves didnt run so far that they crossed the ocean too.
instead....yeah, i'm sorry but if ansel was from mystic falls. if he's a werewolf alpha. he should NOT be white. he should be native. like, objectively, klaus should have been half native. which, ofc, i'm never gonna hold that against klaus writers because joseph is amazing in the role, and the majority of the tvd rpc knows this and has taken steps around it.
anyway, that got long. tldr; the mikaelsons being nordic is perfect from a writing standpoint if you want to ground them from the books, but by their own lore klaus should be half native and i will fight jp in the parking lot of hell.
#𝕺𝕺𝕮 / answered asks.#𝕺𝕺𝕮 / being gay on main again lads.#i do hope this makes sense and im always so ready to sit down and explain any changes ive made or problems ive expressed with canon#i also want it on record im never targetting klaus writers about this its just that the casting for the other issues i mentioned#was systematic in the tvdu whereas this is one firm problem that had an easy remedy#but when im writing on disc i try and remedy it myself too i use alt black and native fcs for my hayley and hope. so like#i completely get its hard and it sucks that jp made such a mess of the lore and all
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Ohhh I would love to see IDW Bishop interact with the others.
Like, 2003 Bishop already was a jerk, but that dude just takes it even further.
OH BOY ENABLEMENT WAHOO!!
I definitely agree that IDW Agent Bishop gives the 03 original a run for his money in terms of awfulness. While he does have more of a "tragic backstory" per se, 03 Bishop somehow has more honor and redeeming qualities in comparison. The way both their respective stories end contributes a lot, too.
SO, first: a brief observation on IDW's character. There will be spoilers for those who haven't read the comics yet, just as an fyi. Bear with me, it's been a few months since I read up so I might bungle some of the details.
Jonathon Bishop is certainly less formidable in terms of accolades than his predecessors. He didn't found EPF, he inherited it, and it is not a well-oiled machine, extension of his own will the same way it is for 03-- in fact, a lot of his subordinates are written as individuals and don't seem to like him as a person, much. But what makes this Bishop scary is how he is driven beyond what should be reasonable. Even in situations where it would probably be beneficial for him to back off, he tends to keep pushing, anyway. He'll put himself in a rough spot so long as he can ensure he'll be screwing over his target, too.
This Jonathon guy pretty explicitly has the capacity to care about others, too, he genuinely loves and respects his father. Which is what makes it all the more terrifying that he was willing to kill him at his own convenience-- once again, just to ensure he could rip away his enemies' advantage. He justifies it after the fact, like he gave his father a proper death, better than wasting away in a nursing home, but personally I think that's just a cope. While we know he can care, he very seldom offers that to anyone else. With his own employees he kinda tends to be downright mean, or at the very least blunt and unconcerned.
IDW's Agent Bishop is one that sees the entire world as hostile, so being on his side doesn't really spare you. The only person we know he didn't see as an enemy was his father. He has been faced with so much fear and judgement over his true appearance that he is desperate to prove himself just as human as everyone else; he believes the appearance of being human is what lends one humanity-- when, in fact, it's how one treats those around them. This is why he leans so hard into Othering anything non-human, to justify his own place in the world, and also why the mutants tend to have more humanity than he ever did.
This is also why he appears to have much less of an honor system than his 03 counterpart. IDW Bishop is FAR more emotional and a little less professional than the other. He acts based on what will make him feel the least uncomfortable, working backwards with his logic to justify his actions. Intelligent as he is, he isn't reasonable. His ego is far greater because it's built on a DEEP and intense insecurity with himself. (In comparison, 03 Bishop may have a dubious sense of personhood, but he has never been shown to be unsure of his right to exist or his place in the world.)
Also btw it's cool af that he's a blend between 03 and 2012 Bishop's concepts. Like I can't praise enough how creative that is, especially with how smoothly it fits into the lore of IDW and their Utrom. The fact that he's still human, but his mech also originates from Utrom tech that EPF salvaged is just SO COOL. I think this alone would cause both other Bishops extreme discomfort lmao
As an aside, I've seen some of the fandom attack his true appearance and that's kinda fucked up. He thinks it makes him lesser, but it doesn't. The way he looks is not the root of the problem, it's the way he was treated because of it and the way he internalized that. He needs to make an enemy out of mutants in part because deep down he believes what people like those scientists in the flashback said about him. So like, yeah, it's kinda a bad look when fans acts the same way as those dudes. Literally there are so many better things to insult IDW Bishop on. I mean you've seen his general personality, right? The way he acts is what makes him a monster.
(Hmm. I said this was supposed to be brief, didn't I? Woops.)
NOW! COMPARISONS!
There is a LOT to delve into between IDW and 03. They have very similar plots on the surface, but every fine detail is so very different. IDW is a fanatic, more at the mercy of his emotions and whims than I think he even realizes. 03 is driven to unreasonable lengths, as well, but he is surprisingly cold about it, when you look into his actions deeper. While IDW reacts and then works backwards to justify it, 03 is shown to be able to suppress his impulses and strategize properly, with his more fanatical qualities being a fun little bonus he indulges in sometimes. This manifests in their respective success rates; IDW often ends his confrontations with a loss of something, culminating in his final confrontation and death. 03, on the other hand, tends to walk away successful a good chunk of the time, and even when he doesn't he usually gets something out of it, anyway.
Their ages have a lot to do with these differences and how they can be interpreted, too. 03 Bishop is old, he straight up comes from a bygone era. Of course his thought process would be a little wild and off-the-wall to most people, his circumstances are so unique and he is so removed from what a normal person's experience might look like. IDW has a normal human lifespan, so he has a little less room for understanding (though granted, he did not have a very common upbringing, either.)
Another big one is that 03 does not give a damn about threats originating from Earth. This is why he kinda disregards mutants beyond their usefulness to his science-- and that one time he almost accidentally caused an apocalypse, but I digress. 03 Bishop is still like, a xenophobic motherfucker, but he doesn't have it out for mutants or avians or Y'Lyntians or what have you, because working within his logic, they belong to earth. It's not especially about looks, to him, the same way it is for IDW. IDW, on the other hand, hates anyone that isn't specifically human, and wants them dead.
IDW's motivations are very internal. The fears that fuel him come from an intense sense of not belonging, of being Other'd and feared by the people around him. He projects that onto an external enemy so he can deny it. The fear that motivates 03 is an external one. He is terrified of extraterrestrial forces taking away his sense of security and control, fueled by his extremely traumatic abduction. It created an Us vs Them in his mind where he was on the side far weaker. Earth was safe, on earth he understood how things worked, but in the sky there was confusion and agony. He endeavored to ensure the sky could never bring that down to the earth.
John Bishop is a monster, but he's a monster that can be bargained with. Jonathon Bishop is a monster, and if he decides you're one, too, he'll seek to destroy you no matter the consequences.
Now, 12 Bishop is such a departure that he can only be vaguely compared with IDW (and basically not at all with 03-- though his disposition might be comparable to Fast Forward Bishop's.) Specifically, 12 Bishop might as well be the exact opposite to IDW Bishop in every way. He is extremely measured; even when he's clearly frustrated, we can see him tempering himself to try solve the issue at hand. He has proven to be notably selfless, often prioritizing the safety of others (even when the people of earth should be aliens with a fraction of his lifespan, to him,) over his own. He seems to function under the assumption that every living thing has a right to a life, and will act accordingly to protect that. He's basically the antithesis to everything the IDW version stands for imo.
One thing that fascinates me, as well, is that each incarnation of Bishop has a wildly different age range. 03 is about 230-something, 2012 Bishop is likely older than the planet Earth itself, and IDW is like, 40. He's the only one we know so far that has a normal human lifespan
On the prompt of any of them interacting: the drama potential here is great. Like with their ages, all the Bishops also have WILDLY different goals.
03 Bishop has a passing scientific interest in mutants, but his goal of protecting earth from outside forces does not really concern them that much when you get down to it-- he's more often than not busy doing his own thing, and clashes with the turtles tend to be incidental (after their initial introduction; he got what he wanted, so he didn't seek them out after.) In fact, I strongly suspect after a point he would begin to see the turtles as more useful alive, considering the amount of times they've been integral to protecting earth.
12 Bishop is straight-up an ally and friend to the turtles. Their goals align in a common need to defeat Krang Prime, but he goes beyond that to make sure they and their home are safe, too. It's specifically noted he's not supposed to get involved and help them like this, but he does anyway because he's a genuinely kind person (and a responsible adult, even, who has been shown to not want to put teenagers in the line of fire more than necessary. But hey, we'll save that for a future post of his own.)
IDW Bishop specifically despises anything non-human, and goes out of his way to target mutants. He is fueled by deep-running insecurities about his own appearance, projecting his own fear at being percieved as a monster onto external "threats." He can't feel like a monster if they're the REAL monsters. Compared to them, he's human, he thinks. He'd despise the other two for their percieved complacency and ignorance.
IDW and 03 definitely would not get along, they've got the exact wrong mix of "too similar" and "just different enough." But both would absolutely HATE 12 lmao. Specifically, 12 being an alien bearing the same name as them would hit IDW too close to home with the similarities in their body situation-- which, yknow, tends to manifest as a murderous obsession, with him. 12 generally tries to seek peaceful resoltuion when possible, but I can't imagine he'd have a very high opinion of the other two, either. Considering his strong sense of justice, he'd probably be down for a fight to the death.
And since I'm on the topic of IDW, I want to take this opportunity to enthuse about two other EPF members original to this series that I am very much attached to. The first of which being Wayne Bishop, himself. THIS guy is so interesting to me, for how little we get on him. As this universe's founder of EPF, he's instantly got so much going on, already. He's either former CIA or former FBI, and slowly moved into investiagting UFOs and other paranormal occurrences in an official capacity. He acts like a very respectable professional, but you KNOW there's gotta be a little quirkiness in this old guy to take that route. And he's got FAMILY DRAMA which is always very fun. He struggles to balance his heavy workload with being a family man, to the point where I think it's implied his marriage falls apart? And his solution is to involve his son in his work, quite literally, letting Jonathon stay in one of the facilities and spending a lot of resources in ensuring he will be able to pass as "normal" if he wants to. He had his son's mech designed after himself. He loves his kid and his wife very much and he still fucked it up. He's so interesting for that.
The other is AGENT RAVENWOOD BABY WOOOOO. She is so damn cool, I feel like I might enthuse too much to be able to make any coherent points. Her design, her DESIGN. I feel like she also borrows-- or has in common-- a lot of concepts from 03 Bishop that were not inherited by either Wayne or Jonathon. She's a failed human experiment that now has longevity and a strange body-- one that offers benefits and drawbacks alike. What's fascinating here is that she worked closely with Wayne in EPF's early days, and volunteered to undergo experimentation as part of the organization's research. She and Wayne were friends, and that makes her tense relationship with his now-grown son very interesting, to me. She also proves to be empathetic and willing to try and understand the mutants as people, though her efforts were wasted on Bebop and Rocksteady. I think she's so dang rad and I want to see more of her so bad. Especially now that her friend's son and murderer has died, too.
I also need to shoutout IDW Stockman. I love that guy so much. He might be my favorite incarnation of the character so far ngl (though Mutant Mayhem has Giancarlo Esposito voicing him so. This may change.)
To round us out, here's a fun little headcanon/theory I have in my back pocket: in any universe where specifically John Bishop, double-centenarian doesn't appear, it means he just never got abducted by aliens. He lived out his days in the 1800s with a normal human lifespan. Maybe he's somewhere on the the IDW Bishops' family tree idk
Anyway, thank you so much for the ask and enabling me to just ramble ad nauseum, hope this was what you were looking for lol!
#agent bishop#tmnt#asks#tmnt 2003#tmnt 2012#idw teenage mutant ninja turtles#agent ravenwood#the IDW run is really really good gang#I do really like Bishop in IDW but he doesn't set my brain on fire the same way 03 does#but he's still a GREAT villain. somehow infinitely more hateable#did any of this make sense? who knows#my man 2012 Bishop is so due for a post now
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I'm explaining D-Sides Spookeez/Lila/Susie lore to Void and I just remembered I have like. An entire little fan story for the trio of D-Sides Lila, Jaune, and Bob so let me just-
Bob used to be a scientist and when Lila and Jaune were little, they visited the lab he worked at and were so enthralled that they both aspired to become scientists themselves -- so they did!
They got jobs at the same place and wouldn't you know it, Bob was still working there! He was the advisor to the two of them and even in adulthood they still really looked up to him
Unfortunately, this is still Bob we're talking about -- however, rather than being a cannibal, Bob instead kidnaps people to perform experiments on them. Lila and Jaune eventually discovered this and, horrified and devastated, they called the cops on him
The whole lab got shut down. The two were still paid as long as they could find a new place to conduct experiments and studies, and Lila got Daddy Dearest to lend her this castle he used for Halloween parties for it (that part is actual lore and I still find that funny)
Bob is still part of the cult most likely, and instead of fun meat facts, he gives facts about the human body! His favorite relate to the pain tolerance of humans :]
Tender Treats happens about the same way: Bob is broken out of jail, and out of revenge, begins to hunt Skid and Pump, wanting to take them as bait for Lila -- however, he gets sidetracked by the funny little greeter at the haunted house he follows the Spookeez to, and, inspired by his werewolf costume, takes him instead
Lila discovers Bob kidnapped Streber while searching for the Spookeez and, knowing full well what Bob plans to do, calls Jaune to meet her at the lab. Jaune in turn calls John and Jack (sidenote, I think it'd be neat if they were detectives here instead of police officers)
The confrontation Lila and Bob have at the beginning of Tender Treats then happens here, though instead of smashing him with a frying pan, Lila manages to douse him in water and electrocutes him.
He's not dead because of course he isn't, so John and Jack shoot him a bunch and handcuff AND footcuff him. Whether he survived that is left ambiguous because Lila and Jaune go grab Streber right after, finding him strapped to a table with odd fluid being pumped into his bloodstream.
This is v long so hope you don't mind the word dump :> Lila appears in one (1) song in the actual mod and yet I have so many thoughts about her
Ohmygod I have many thoughts about this let me try to wrangle them all
The idea of Bob being a scientist has such a creepy and strangely D-Sides feel to me. Like it makes sense in a way but I don’t know why and that disturbs me
WAIT THAT’S ACTUAL LORE!? THAT’S COOL ACTUALLY-
Ooo Bob giving facts like that would be so funny and terrifying, like he just approaches you like “Did you know the human body can still survive without 12 of its organs?” “Did you know your head can remain conscious for up to 10 seconds after decapitation?”
Oh my god Streber as a werewolf I need to draw that
John and Jack as detectives instead seems like such a perfect D-Sides thing and I don’t know why
The thought of Streber being kidnapped instead of having his arm ripped off is super interesting to me. I think cause that seems like it would have more subtle but long term effects; like what would his friends do in that case? Having to deal with his arm would be traumatizing but like at least you kinda know what’s going on: he just lost an arm. What do you do when your friend’s been experimented on?
#GOOD. GOOD IDEAS.#I LOVE THE D-SIDES MOD#friday night funkin#fnf#fnf mods#fnf d sides#spooky month#spooky month lila#spooky month jaune#spooky month bob#spooky month streber#spooky month john#spooky month jack#crossover-enthusiast#YEEES
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