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wheresmulder · 1 year ago
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Me: if I built a submarine would you- *busts out laughing*
Coworker: absolutely not
Me: I couldn't even get the words out
Coworker: I'm not coming
Me: would you go look at the titanic with me
Coworker: fuck you and fuck the titanic
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autumnrory · 8 months ago
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not enough people write stucky being married/having kids tbh
#and idk why like they could absolutely find their own version of normal#and domestic life does not mean they stop being themselves#like the closest we get is in pre-iw fics obvs pre-catfa fics have domesticity too but there's the secrecy aspect#or just pining and not even actually being together so#OBVS marriage and kids are not impt to everyone so i get why some authors wouldn't go that route#but there are others that i figure absolutely would? and it feels like it just shows#that even in fanfiction where people are trying to give these characters a break from superhero-ing#like fans can't seem to actually imagine a real end to the fighting and idgi tbh#like they'll occasionally give bucky an out bc he explicitly doesn't want to fight in cw and iw#but they don't give the same option to steve despite him considering getting out all the way back in catws#like granted that was more to do with shield and not a desire to stop fighting bad guys#i just think like. why can't there be a compromise#bc the only fics where he does fully retire he's doing stuff that's ENTIRELY different (and usually has disappeared entirely#varies whether he's still in contact with the people who matter)#like why can't he do stuff that's still helping the world without the captain america mantle#the WHOLE fucking point is he wants to do what's right regardless of the super-serum#idk it definitely gets into the idea of ~selfishness~ that people talked about wrt endgame#like yeah lol he did deserve to get the fuck out of being captain america after over a decade of saving the world#does not mean the answer was abandon everyone and everything for someone who does not have his morals lol ANYWAY
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gopher-jade · 1 year ago
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captainverse negativity below
man i just. reached the part where kallen joins the party and wow am i snoozing. idk if it's because i didn't play lots of captainverse events and forgot what little i did play, but this guy is straight up the flattest main character i've seen in a while. any inter-character conflict is boring because he just resolves it with "i don't accept your choice!!!! there must be a third option!!!!" like okay bub. this guy has only one strategy ever.
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misskelley · 9 months ago
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I will die saying that the tackle was 100% clean
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captain kelley vs san diego wave (march 15, 2024)
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matan4il · 2 years ago
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I loved your OUAT meta and was curious your thoughts on a different couple. One of my favorite books and movies is Fried Green Tomatoes. Just finished a rewatch actually. It always slaps me so hard that to me Idgy, Ruth and Buddy are Buck, Eddie and Christopher. Was curious if you have read and watched it and your thoughts on the parallels.
Awww, Nonnie! I’m so happy to hear that you enjoyed my Buddie vs Captain Swan meta! :D
But what are you doing to me, asking me to compare Idgie, Ruth and Buddy Jr. to Buddifer? I love it! I even had to make a whole gifset for it, in addition to a couple of gifs for this post. Okay, fair warning to everyone, there be spoilers under the cut... There’s also a gifset to go with the meta!
I have to admit, while I think the performances in the film are great, I prefer the novel. For one thing, when I first watched the film, I wasn't crazy about adult Idgie falling for her deceased older brother's girlfriend. It just opens up a few uncomfortable questions that the movie never addresses, such as is Idgie just a replacement love for Ruth since the guy she actually wanted died? It’s at least a real possibility due to other changes as well, like how the story about the ducks flying away with the frozen lake is Idgie’s in the novel, but the movie turns it into a story invented by Buddy, so all she ever does is just repeat it, just be a reflection of him. I have to say, the idea of two grieving people comforting each other and falling in love in the process is not awful, depending on how it’s handled it can actually be uplifting, but for that to be the case, this aspect has to be tackled so that we'd know that eventually, Ruth and Idgie's love story will be their own and not just a substitute. But the movie never does broaches this subject. That kinda bugged me the first time I watched it, and still, seeing Idgie and Ruth together is so heartwarming, I ended up embracing them despite having that initial issue.
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But imagine my joy when I finally got to read the novel and discovered that Ruth never even met Buddy. When she spends time with Idgie? It's because she chooses to. It’s not some act of charity to help the troubled little sister of a dead boyfriend! In the novel, Ruth realizes that there's no one she wants to be with more than Idgie. And I love that! I think they both deserve that. It also means that when Ruth's son is named Buddy Jr., that can't be interpreted as her never fully moving on from Buddy, she didn’t know him! Instead, it’s a clear reflection of her love for Idgie and the baby being their son. Which to me is really similar to Buck, Eddie and Christopher, who also choose each other and to be a family, again and again.
And in fact, he is recognized as such! Unlike in the movie, where it’s just implied, in the book we have people like Dot Weems who publishes her weekly newsletter and explicitly refers to Buddy Jr. as Ruth and Idgie’s son. Given the very public nature of this, it implies not just her personal acceptance of the three of them as a family unit. It shows the town of Whistle Stop overall must have accepted them. And yes, this is absolutely so much like Buck, Eddie and Chris, who aren’t only a family unit, they’re also pretty much recognized as such. It’s in things like Hen in 317 talking about everyone including their spouse and her including in that Buck inviting Eddie, or the way Chim in 414 talks about Buck being there with Chris when Eddie was shot like it’s a given.
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That brings me to another point. The book is much more explicit about Ruth and Idgie falling in love, which is a blessing in itself. It’s also far more mutual. The movie gives us a very clear ‘oh’ moment for Idgie when she’s obviously struck by the knowledge that Ruth is about to get married. Their time together is about to come to an end and realizing Idgie’s about to lose Ruth, something obviously clicks. It’s arguable whether we get one for Ruth. When she says maybe she should move out, the conversation (despite no one else being there) is not in romantic terms, and in fact Ruth suggest that maybe if she leaves, Idgie would settle down (implied to mean she’d marry a man and have kids). Which at least suggests that even within a queer reading, maybe they’re living their lives together simply settling for being life partners, without ever crossing the line into romance, despite being in love. IF we do have an ‘oh’ moment for Ruth in the movie, it’s during the trial, when she seems to maybe reach an insight on the stand and states in front of everyone that she loves Idgie (prefaced by calling her ‘best friend’). This reading can be seen as supported by Idgie’s own shocked expression at Ruth’s words, as if this is something she’s not used to hearing. Since Ruth dies of cancer a short while later, if that was indeed her moment of recognizing her own feelings, it would mean their relationship was only consummated for a very short while, if ever. The novel, however, makes it more evident that they were fully aware from pretty much the start of how they felt, were totally committed to each other from the second Ruth left Frank, and it never gives us any reason to think they didn’t fully realize their relationship. That gives them about 22 years of knowing they were in love with each other, and 18 years to live that love together.
I’m not sure if Buck and Eddie have had their ‘oh’ moment yet, but... If Idgie’s in the film is that panicked realization of possibly losing her other half forever, and Ruth’s in the book stems from the same understanding, I think we see something very similar in the expression on Buck’s face when he is forced to watch Eddie collapsing before him.
On top of that, in the book Idgie's mom not only makes it clear to her kids that Idgie is in love with Ruth, she also says in no uncertain terms that she expects them to treat their sister kindly, basically showing incredible levels of acceptance. I think that's just so freaking marvelous and not at all what I expected for a character realizing that she's raising a gay daughter in the 1930's. Of course, the novel itself was published in 1987, but it also has a contemporary character, Evelyn (whose story begins in 1985) allowing herself to be emotionally detached from her son when it's suggested to her that otherwise, he might grow up to be gay. So that highlights just what an exception Mama Threadgoode was in general, and especially given her time. This very much reminded me of Bobby, and how many of us read him as knowing and approving of Buddie since as early as 201.
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In the book, on the day Ruth realizes she's in love with Idgie, there are two things I wish they had kept in. The famous scene with Idgie getting Ruth honey, going untouched by the bees, takes place. First, I wish they had kept Ruth admitting she doesn't know what she would do without Idgie. It gives the whole scene a different, more profound tone IMO. We have Ruth both amazed at what Idgie can do (nicknaming her “the bee charmer”) and terrified over realizing she could have gotten herself killed. This is Ruth’s ‘oh’ moment in the novel, explicitly so. The second thing I wish they hadn’t cut out is the tail of their conversation, when Idgie states that she would kill anyone who might ever hurt Ruth. True to her Christian (and “good girl”) values, Ruth doesn’t like that idea. So Idgie relents and says that instead, she's willing to die for her. But Ruth doesn't believe anyone would ever really put their lives on the line for anyone else. Yet, by the end of the story, we know that Idgie was willing to do just that. Someone else killed Ruth's abusive husband, but Idgie was willing to take the fall for it, quite possibly be sentenced to death for this crime. It's her contribution to what someone else had done to keep Ruth and Buddy Jr. safe from Frank. It’s Idgie fighting for her family and her loved ones, but also proving that she does exactly what she promised Ruth she would. Andit shows that, in spite of Idgie’s wild ways and anti-church stance, she’s that person who actually embodies Ruth’s values.
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And I think this absolutely is so very much like Buddie, where we know that they would die for each other. With Buck, it’s been explicitly stated and shown. With Eddie, he knows exactly how reckless and self-endangering his husband can be, and he still goes wherever Buck does. In other words, that daredevil, reckless nature is something Idgie and Buck share, as well as that deep devotion and willingness to fight and to sacrifice for their family. Ruth and Eddie, as their counterparts? Roll their eyes, but clearly also adore and appreciate them, understanding that this stubbornness and recklessness comes from a place of deep caring. Eddie basically says as much in 414, when he tells Buck that he knows no one would ever fight as hard for Chris and that this is exactly what he wants for his (their) son.
Another commonality is that not only do we have two same sex couples raising together the child that one partner had biologically with a former spouse, the kid in both cases has a significant physical limitation (Chris has CP while Buddy Jr. has lost an arm), yet both are explicitly said to never complain, and both sets of parents are very encouraging of their child to live their lives to the fullest in spite of their disability. Fried Green Tomatoes even implies that Idgie is able to be a better parent to Buddy Jr. thanks to being queer, because she too knows what it’s like to be different than everyone else. So we have her, the non-biological parent, fighting for Buddy Jr. to be able to fulfill himself just like all the other kids. That’s exactly like Buck in 312, in direct opposition of Ana’s advice, encouraging Eddie and helping him find a way for Chris to be able to live his dreams despite his disability.
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The novel makes it clear just how much Idgie and Ruth loved and missed each other while they were separated. Idgie would drive at least once a month (later once a week) all the way from Alabama to Georgia in order to see Ruth from afar, or even just to see Frank since he was a link to his wife, solid proof of her presence. Meanwhile, the book tells us that Ruth thought of Idgie every single day and missed her to the point of pain. She stayed with Frank even as he turned out to be a violent and abusive husband (to say the least) because she believed he could somehow sense her love for Idgie. Ruth felt guilt over it, and accepted Frank’s abuse as if it were justified by her emotional infidelity. I felt that was very poignant, showing us just how destructive the results of homophobia, including of the internalized kind, can be. And while Eddie staying with Ana is not quite as extreme, there is something about the sense of duty and guilt, the need to do the “right” (i.e socially expected) thing, that kept him there which I think is very reminiscent of Ruth. And it’s also very much like Buck who feels he should be with Taylor given she’s the first girlfriend who hasn’t left him, as if he has also bought into the idea that this is what he’s meant to do in life, find a gf and settle with her even if he’s miserable.
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Now, you might notice that for the most part, I’m trying to stick to what is canon in the book, but clearly when adapting it to the screen, they realized they needed to show us a bit more of Ruth and Idgie’s married life ('coz yeah, that is exactly what they were, even if they never got to have a wedding). They’re partners in life and at work. And then we get that scene where they get to be playful with each other as well in the kitchen. Jon Avnet, the director, explicitly said that this scene was meant to be a metaphor for sex. So they take in what that means for Buddie’s own playful scene that starts in the kitchen in 309... we keep saying there is no straight explanation for it, because there literally isn’t!
One last connection, because a geek’s gotta geek. Ruth’s character is obviously named after the biblical one. In the Bible, after Ruth loses her husband, she vows to stay by his mother’s side instead of going back to her own country. She promises Naomi, “Where you will go, I will go and where you will dwell, I will dwell. Your people will be my people and your God will be my God. Where you will die, I will die and there I shall be buried. So will Go do to me and so he will add for [only] death will separate between you and me.” (Ruth 1:16-17). In case you think that she’s just being a good (ex) daughter in law, Orpa is also shown to be a good, caring ex daughter in law to Naomi, she cares, she cries when she has to leave. In fact, Naomi states that they were both good daughters in law. But at the end, Orpa does go back home. Not Ruth though, who in verse 1:14 insists on staying with Naomi. That’s where we’re also told that Ruth clung (דבקה) to Naomi. Now what’s interesting about this specific verb in Hebrew is that it only appears in one other place in the Bible: “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and he will cling (דבק) to his wife and they will become one flesh.” Yep, the only biblical connotation we have for this verb is one that is explicitly related to a romantic relationship. That’s why there are many queer readings of Ruth and Naomi, who have been adopted by some queer women as biblical counterparts.
Meanwhile, Buck’s birth name is Evan, which is a variation of John. In the New Testament, Jesus has a Beloved Disciple and the most likely identification of that person is John the Apostle (the disciple whom Jesus loved is only ever mentioned in the Gospel of John, and while this person isn’t named, the text states that this disciple is the author of that very gospel). Jesus, knowing he must leave, instructs his mom and the disciple he loves to become each other’s mother and son, effectively turning John into kind of an adopted brother. In the Song of Songs, when the narrating woman can’t openly be with the man she loves, she yearns for him to be like her brother, so she could walk down the street and kiss him without being socially scorned (Song of Songs 8:1). We know John is someone who was asked by Jesus to abandon his bride in order to follow him. There’s a verse (John 13:23) that, if translated literally, states that during the last supper, the beloved disciple was reclining in Jesus’ bosom. On top of all that, the apostles were all prophesied an awful doom. Peter, about learning of his own demise, demands to know what would be the fate of the beloved disciple. Jesus replies, “If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you?” (John 21:22). Did the 911 pilot writers (who are the show creators) intend for this when they chose Buck’s name? IDK, but the queer vibes from Buck go back to 107 at the latest, so maybe it was something that was playing somewhere in the back of their minds. 602 def tells me the 911 writers think long and hard about the names they choose for their characters, even minor ones, and at the very least one of the show creators is Ryan Murphy, an openly gay man, who’s probably been around long enough to be aware of the well known queer reading of Jesus and John.
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OK, as a bonus, some tidbits you might not have known! Fannie Flagg, the author, has had long term relationships with women. In writing this book, she was partly inspired by her own great aunt running a cafe with a couple of her friends (it’s still active to this day and you can find it where Flagg grew up, the town of Irondale, Alabama). Fannie was born Patricia Neal. At the end of the novel, a Neal family with their little girl Patsy runs into a character who isn’t named, but is clearly an elderly Idgie (who we know left honey and that loving note at Ruth’s grave in Whistle Stop that Evelyn finds), living with her brother Julian’s family in Florida.
In conclusion, I actually find it fascinating that the movie, which was released four years after the book was published, is a lot more ambiguous. Because at the end of the day, it does expect many, if not most, of its viewers (even back in 1991) to understand the nature of Idgie and Ruth’s relationship, even though it’s not explicitly stated. And to realize just how many of the things we see between these two women in the film apply to Buddie as well, then no wonder that in 2022, we’ve reached a similar conclusion about these two men. It’s absolutely to be expected based on the story 911 has been telling!
Thank you so much for the request, Nonnie. I hope you enjoyed this! If you’re interested, you can find more of my content on my blog. Thank you in advance for any kindness and support! xoxox
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thefvrious · 1 year ago
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star wars, star trek, starship troopers, starwalkin-- wait that's a song. But no really. the first two and then your fave niche movie i don't know the name of but would love to see you write from.
Name a show/movie/game/fandom/thing I shall reveal who I would rp from that thing. 
star wars: chewbacca [don't at me], han solo, leia organa, din djarin, grogu, bo-katan kryze, moff gideon, darth maul, darth vader/anakin skywalker, fennec shand, any ewok bc i thnk it would be fun [again don't @ me], obi wan kenobi, lando calrissian, c3po, r2d2, yoda, rey, poe dameron
star trek: i've only seen the movie with chris pine so bear with me. captain kirk, spock, bones, uhura
fried green tomatoes: idgie threadgoode, sipsey, grady killgore, ruth jamison
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buckymilf · 2 years ago
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i don rlly care too much abt the marvel videogames bc they're just not v good, but smth that annoys me is that they never use the mcu version of steve and bucky in them and also use the comics versions. it feels like an extension of how the MCU saw how successful CATWS was but decided to try to erase that characterization from the franchise bc of how mainstream stucky became. idgi bc why don't those games use the versions of Steve and Bucky that made them actually popular with general audiences?
not to be the devil's advocate in here but I'm pretty sure no marvel game is adapted to follow mcu storyline, neither that failure of the avengers game or the (actually cool) guardians of the galaxy one, the only marvel games that actually followed mcu timeline were those ones
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i used to play iron man as a kid and highly recommend the captain america one (specially for being so stucky friendly and being actually dub by Sebastian and chris 🥺)
marvel doesn't need to follow mcu storyline in their games anymore since the comic became popular again because of the movies, i think the main reason why marvel did those games in the first places was to actually advertise the mcu, since the universe started from the bottom.
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odinsblog · 22 days ago
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I am 100% unsurprised that white men and white women are collectively Trump’s most reliable supporters - I get that, it’s just a fact of life by now: the majority of white people overwhelmingly and consistently vote for Republicans. Stated differently, whiteness is the most reliable indicator of who voted for Trump/Republicans.
But the Latinx Trump supporters?? Idgi.
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@captain-johanssons-wooden-ear
👉🏿 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/06/election-trump-harris-women-voters
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Welp.
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80-ursa-major · 3 months ago
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and this is why I don't interact with people
ok so the self-imposed tyrrants calmed down a bit and I thought I could finally relax but nope just like real life more assholes cropped up. remember the guys I wanted to be friends with? Haha right. I couldn't have been more wrong. They are THE WORST! Conniving crooked cowards: when she came back they shat their pants and pretended the rules worked differently. Publicly! And they got away with it because everyone hates us???* The gall of her lying in my face too and me having to pretend I misread. You could just scroll up to see your own words, It's impossible they meant def instead of atk. Oh oh and she immediately dumped us afterwards lmaao like giiirl couldn't you have at least given us that farewell gift? Typical behavior from ccccccccccccc ;-p (*they were going to push us off but somehow we'd be the bad guys if we disregarded their pathetic trick and won 1 out of 4! Oh and last time our zero brain management did something similiar agains sb else -and it was an honest mistake-we were treated like the bad guys. And who could forget the guys who always broke the actual rule when they came for us? Well clearly everyone because it was swept under the rug. Different rules for everyone but us.)
I want to take a break too cause I'm starting to hate this place. You can never complain, you must ignore the truth, you must say thank you for being stepped on. It's a state of constant enforced positivity. I guess they enjoy being treated like idiots? Then again they lack all kinds of awareness so they don't even realize they've become a laughingstock. And as much as I hate the game when they all get eager to attack I want to help them. I say it nicely, I even pretend idgi either, i lie they're doing well basically soft suggestions but they don't even bother to listen, they keep crying captain captain and run around like headless chicken and since so-called cap has admitted himself he doesn't know what to tell them they just rush in, make a mess and then pat each other on the back for a job well done???
The other guys have definitely ruined me because their teamwork and strategy is so beautiful I crave it but I have to sleep too so i can rarely join them :((((( and i'm not that strong there so i can't help them nearly as much as I'd love to
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captain-idgie · 4 years ago
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Kind of Birds and Jerks.
Try and tell me these two wouldn’t be this kind of 20 year couple. Just super cuddle with their time off.
Also think Richie would scream a code word when he wants attention in the house. Maaaybe I can draw that in a part 2 feat the dream team Stanlon.
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heterophobicrichietozier · 4 years ago
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The INCREDIBLE AMAZING TALENTED SHOWSTOPPING NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE BRILLIANT @captain-idgie drew me as the one and only Johnny Lawrence.
I am SHOOK to my core at how brilliant this is!! That mustache is a thing of beauty and I know all the ladies will be swooning over that and my muscles god bless
*chefs kiss*
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blueeyedrichie · 5 years ago
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Jaws!
never seen | want to see | the worst | bad | whatever | not my thing | good | great | favorite | masterpiece
send me a film!
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thorniest-rose · 3 years ago
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Hahaha "showa." what a doooork
djdjddd IDGIE STOP. You would say showa too if one of your parents grew up in London!! I try my best to say shower but it comes out as showa if I'm not careful. And the same with power, it comes out as powah if I don’t watch how I say it. AHHHHHH. 
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tinyarmedtrex · 5 years ago
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"Speechless." For the one word prompt!
“You understand the consequences.” 
It wasn’t a question. The turtle stared down at Richie, floating a few feet above him and waiting for his confirmation. 
He nodded firmly. “I understand.” 
“You’ll never speak again, never utter another sound.”  
The voice was calm and unhurried, neither male nor female. Richie wondered if this would be easier if the turtle showed an emotion, anything to indicate that this was the right choice. 
But he knew it was, there wasn’t any other option. He’d lose everything he’d worked to build, his comedy career and any chance to reach for real fame. He’d be giving up everything. 
“He’ll come back normal right? This isn’t some pet cemetery shit right?” Richie asked, trying not to shift his weight. He itched to get back to the others, needing to know if the battle was truly over, if they’d won- if Eddie was really okay. He’d left all of them as the stones started to crumble, Bev trying to pull him away from Eddie’s body. Richie had refused to leave and then suddenly he’d been here, in some strange other world and talking to the Turtle.
The massive head bobbed, eyes only half open. “He’ll be the same as he was before.”
That was all he needed to hear. 
“Do it.” Richie said. 
The turtle closed his eyes. Richie expected something like the Little Mermaid, maybe he’d see his voice disappearing or feel it. But there was nothing, no big moment, nothing to tell him that his voice was gone, exchanged for Eddie’s life. 
He opened his mouth to ask if it worked but nothing came out, not even an exhale. 
The turtle opened its eyes. “It’s done. When I return you it will be like you never left.”
He nodded again, mouthing ‘thank you’ to the celestial being who had done the one thing that Richie never could. 
In the blink of an eye, he was back in the sewers. The losers were all gathered around him and Eddie, telling Richie that they needed to go, that they had to leave him. They tugged on Richie’s coat, trying to get him to stand but he kept shaking his head, needing to wait just one more second. 
 Then Eddie’s eyes opened. He blinked at all of them. “Guys? Richie? What happened?” He patted his chest, looking shocked that it was intact. 
“It’s a miracle.” Bev whispered.
“Miracle or not we need to leave!” Mike shouted. “Come on, this place won’t last long!”
Richie nodding, taking Eddie’s hand and pulling him along as they climbed out. He refused to let the other man go, even as they climbed out. All of them rushed onto the street as the house collapsed, falling to the pavement as it disappeared into the earth. 
“Holy shit. We did it.” Eddie looked at him, wide eyed. “Richie! We did it!”
He started to reply but, of course, nothing came out. Eddie’s mouth fell open and he went to Richie, grabbing his shoulders. “Richie? What’s wrong?”
The panic in Eddie’s voice made everyone else turn to look at him,  worry on their faces. “Richie?” Ben asked. “Are you okay?”
He looked at his friends, all of them standing there unscathed. Then Eddie, his shirt torn and bloody but he was breathing, he was alive. 
Richie had never been more okay in his life. He nodded, knowing that he would have to figure out a way to explain it eventually but for now it didn’t matter. Nothing mattered except for his friends.
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gaystuartlittle · 5 years ago
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Should ping pong and do both fics they sound great.
thank u for this advice! i think it’s what i’m going to end up doing.... i should have plenty of time this semester to do so
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infini-tree · 2 years ago
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castorochiaro reblogged your post: “wow can you believe the new tetocu season...”
#Captain Underpants #i'm kinda surprised she didn't end up in the tv show! #like wasn't the whole point of the tv show to be an extension of the movie?? #idgi
from what i can recall, the movie and the show were being developed concurrently. at the very least, the show was stated to be made in two years’ time. the movie was released june 2017 and the show was released in july 2018; they didn’t have the final movie to adapt on during the pitch bible/story phase so they probably looked to only the books-- or if they had bits of movie details, then edith wasn’t there yet. 
so the show is less of a soft continuation, and more of an alternate take imo
though...
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there was a small edith cameo in one of the last(?) tetocu productions released, the christmas blissmas special
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