#cant have shit in the undercity

[ssaltlicker]

Me knowing damn well why people demonize vi for one mistake while excusing everything jinx has done

[angstflavoured]

again and again, fandoms do this same shit dude. points to my very large 'you can be pissed at a characters actions and not really like them as a person and still enjoy their character without having to excuse what they're doing' sign. like I was just dealing with this shit with Curly Mouthwashing and now its the same thing with Cait Arcane.

watching the first 3 eps, she was legitimately pissing me off. its supposed to. media is supposed to make you FEEL things and convey a message. I love Caits character a lot and really enjoy her writing, but people legitimately just going 'yass get ur revenge girl, reasonable crashout' is hurting my fucking brain.

Like do you not understand that Vi's parents dying due to unreconciled oppression from enforcers is not the same thing at all as Cait's parent (the. oppressor.) being killed in rebellion ?? and Cait comparing those two things and acting like how she is now is fucking ridiculous. and her trying to mold Vi into someone 'civil' because shes 'not like those other filthy stupid undercity dwellers' is fucked up and toxic.

Does it make sense for her character? Yes! Did I enjoy the writing? YES. And I hope they don't backtrack and just magically fix things because i love the tension and the angst. But its fucking stupid and she pisses me off. That doesn't mean I 'cant handle' her character. She's just becoming an antagonist. Like oh my god, can people stop just blindly standing by every single decision a character they like does and try to excuse it all? characters being morally grey makes them interesting, don't piss me off.

[akascow]

fave jayvik hc so far is that jayce knew how to make a rlly good leg brace from basically scraps bc he helped in designing and crafting viktor's own brace🫠👍🏻

^^ "scraps" is kinda mirroring them probably having to make mock ups and test runs while trying to perfect viktor's brace so there were a bunch of prototypes with random parts they had lying around trying to make it work ahaaaa

like obviously jayce is extremely talented and smart when it comes to engineering so he very easily coulda come up w the design and mechanics of it on the spot (meaning using what he had on hand, rather than actually coming up with it in a few hours bc,, well he was down there for at least a few weeks HAHA) but idk its nice to think about i guess lmfao

plus itd make a lil bit of sense, like why go somewhere else to get a leg brace when your perfectly capable and willing partner is right here lmfao.

also we only see viktor has the leg brace after working with jayce. and yeah u could chalk it up to his illness getting worse so he wouldntve needed it until now. and obviously im not trying to ignore the fact that viktor is extremely capable to make it himself and if he did maybe since hes more than an assistant he actually has the tools and means to make it himself now lol.

but idk it seems like jayce was one of the first if not only person to care about V and include him in things ("people didnt believe in me, a poor disabled kid from the undercity" "i dont want to spend my whole life as an assistant" "our hextech dream" "arent you the professor's assistant" "you should be up there with me" etc) so i can totally picture him see viktor working on it or even a glance at a few crude sketches as a start and want to help his partner yk?

and from what we see hes like extremely nice and caring and at the risk of this sounding too fluffy bc thats not the point rn you can picture viktor walking around the lab, jayce noticing him wincing whenever he tries to correct his position and offering to help him with a mobility aid and they have all the means necessary to build it right here right now and shit happens and here we are now lol

hes constantly making an effort to show and tell people that hextech is not JUST his doing, but viktor's too. which, as someone who seemed to revel in the attention, jayce easily could've forgotten to mention, but never does

so in my head it makes sense that he would be the first person to propose the idea of helping him in creating a leg brace that would make walking a lil less painful (it keeps his foot straight, u can see he has to correct the angle himself in s1 act1)

anyway i think its a neat theory lmao

these didnt fit in anywhere else so im put it it here pft👇🏻

also jayce has two different braces- during and post anomaly. so while there may just be some place in piltover that makes them i’d like to think he just whipped it up all quicklike in his lab the second he got back bc like.. the blueprints are right there lol

his and viktor’s arent entirely similar ofc bc they serve two different functions,, viktors helps to keep his leg/foot facing and moving foward, and jayces kinda just stabilizes/supports his leg i think ? uh but they both help in general to reduce pain

n then viktor, having a leg that didnt develop akin to typical human anatomy, is clearly shown as not the easiest to walk or put pressure in on lmao, especially when he only really got to correct it at like age 30, so like, habits (for lack of a better term) have already been deeply rooted in his posture by now lol

bc, well,, putting any weight on that fucked up Broken In Half shin bone that Definitely Did Not heal correctly (if its even fully healed at this point in the first place) probably causes a bunch of Ouch- hence the supports in the front of his leg,, post anomaly tho, during anomaly its at the sides which was probably just to straighten the injury while it was healing idk.

i cant find a good answer as to why the lower leg support is in the front now but my main guess is so it doesnt put too much strain when he bends his knee/ankle downward, which u can kinda see in ep8 when he blasts viktor and the knockback breaks the part resting on his shoe away, and its hard to see but i think his ankle bends slightly more after the gear breaks ? so thats what i can assume.

clearly im not well versed in the art of KAFO support braces and i tried to look up to the best of my abilities but came up empty handed HAHA who knew itd be so hard referencing similarities between the homemade parallel reality fictional sci fi gear braces and modern irl real orthotic braces LMAO

[jayviknation]

I am in love and obssesed with this man so since he’s on my mind 25/8 here is~

❣️Jayce Talis Headcannons Pt 2 ❣️

- [ ] Reptile

This man absolutely has a pet reptile, I picture a leopard gecko or bearded dragon but some cold blooded creature he stumbled across in a random circumstance is his little buddy

- [ ] TikTok

Would just adore social media like TikTok but would constantly be late to the trend and it’s never cool when he’s doing it

- [ ] Technology

While on the topic of TikTok this man would absolutely be shit with technology but would never admit it. All the most updated modern gadgets? He owns them- but he can’t use most of them due to pride (Viktor makes fun of him and uses them for himself)

- [ ] Video Games

In a AU where piltover has the same games as us I can see Jayce as someone who plays FPS (Think fortnight, COD, and only plays these games with VI. They’re both terrible) OR secretly will play visual novels in his free time

- [ ] Games

Talking just regular games I think this man would be a pro at Jacks, Dominos, Yahtzee, but would be terrible at like Sorry!, Monopoly, Life (he’s a sore loser too)

- [ ] Favorite Food

Given who we’re talking about here this man has gotta love anything with PROTEIN, but I also think he loves a sweet treat like a small ice cream or slushy after dinner everyday (it’s like a reward)

- [ ] Tattoos & Piercings

So I think Jayce would act above tattoos and piercings seeing them as something scandalous done in the undercity but I also think he would have one too many drinks with Viktor or Mel and would end up getting one where no one can see (teehee what do you think it is?)

- [ ] Cats Or Dogs

While Jayce is very puppy coded himself I see him as a cat person, having a cat would help balance him out (would get a puppy with his partner tho)

- [ ] Windows

For some reason I feel like Jayce is always entering rooms thru the window, I think it was a joke at first but now he’s just to committed to the bit and pushing it as far as possible

- [ ] Pyromaniac

Controlled fires are preferred but our young scientist would be lucky if he could keep more than 25% controlled so he’s learned to love the unpredictable ride of a fire

- [ ] Sick

This man is a doting husband when it comes to someone being sick around him (soups, hugs, blankets, the full shabang)

BUT

if this man is the sick one he might be actually DYING (or at least he’s convinced himself that) luckily he never gets sick

- [ ] Weather

Is a sunshine boy all the way but love a cool crispy rainy morning to help get himself relaxed and motivated to work

- [ ] Movies

We’ve talked about how this man doesnt really like movies BUT if he did his favorite genre would be animated movies or horror (he likes to be jump scared but will never admit it)

- [ ] Sleeping Position

Completely sprawled out or completely balled up cuddling himself and there’s no in between for this boy

- [ ] Pet Peeve’s

Pen clicking (he didn’t know this until Viktor), chewing with your mouth open, violence, and for a reason I wont elaborate on - Milk

- [ ] Something they like to do that may surprise others

Ballet! I headcannon he used to do this with a young sibling or Cait because they were shy when starting and then got INVESTED

- [ ] Perfect Vacation

This man is a workaholic, he would love to just be in a peaceful environment where we can tinker on his designs in quiet but he’ll take a beach day as a second place

- [ ] Bad habits

NAIL BITERRRRR, messy with laundry (immediately throwing his socks anywhere as soon as he gets home), forgets to eat until his body starts lagging, teeth clenching, eating too fast

- [ ] Swearing

I can’t ever see a situation where he would be cussing unless it was high tension, maybe when he gets really close to someone he’ll use a couple but its not in his daily vocabulary by any means

- [ ] Alch or 420?

I cant imagine this man doing either HAHA, he’s smoked weed at least once to try to get the hype and will have a drink in a social gathering but neither of these are his thing

[mika1683]

Thoughts about arcane finale

2. It felt a little bit rushed but I liked it

*SUICIDE MENTIONED* TW

1. Too less screentime for Sevika 😕 she takes over the undercity and from narrative point of view she is very important character and yet we didnt even see her reaction for Jinx and Isha death (and she was almost abscent for whole 3 act, I dont even think she said anything?)

3. We all agree that Javik is canon right? I'm a little sad we didnt get a direct "I love you" or a kiss because I can already see this people say "Oh I commit suicide with my bro every sunday stop making every male friendship gay". Although I really liked the subtle act of affection

4. I feel like Caits character gets wasted. She changed her whole personality way too fast and her "development" felt off (definietly the worst written main character in the show)

5. I love Mel and I'm glad she was the one to take her mother out

6. As much as I didint like Jayce in season 1, he became one of my faves in season 2

7. I dont like Jinx ending. I know there was a slim chance but I really wanted her to have happy ending. Her killing herself is just so deppresing. She was as guilty as other characters in all the shit that went down and still she paid the biggest price. Always on the run or suffering, anytime she found her happines it was taken away from her, she was just a child and was treated so unfair by world (and writers). Also I dont vibe with the "hallucination" of Silco and "breaking the circle"- the speech wasnt bad, the fact that she decided to kill herself afterwards is.

8. I hoped that Jinx character development/conclusion from all of the events will be "Jinx and Powder are both part of me and I cant escape either of them" AND NOT SUICIDE IS THE SOLUTION

[hutaotown]

act 1 had me tweakin out but act 2 feels bittersweet yk? like of course im sad over the possible??? character deaths, but everything felt necessary and like it was happening for a reason. viktors little speech about humanity really confirmed this. it seems like he realized that what he said to jayce earlier was right and killing him is what needed to happen. everything seemed like a dream and its only natural that it all comes crumbling down and tragic shit happens to the characters that only wanted the best.

ANYWAYS, back to my normal nonsense here are some less existential thoughts.

- sevika KILLED ME. like how did they make her hotter??? especially w that ugly ah haircut????

- im also becoming a jayce stan like viktor was hot ash w that long hair, but jayce??? ho mama im boutta BUST.

- vi punching isha??? like girl will always be a kid attacker smh. loving small parallels between jinx and isha tho super funsies.

- when cait knocked out vi and took her to ambessa i was so so scared UNTIL i realized that vi was tied up. like it just HIT ME bc caitlyn KNOWS that vi can get out of situations like that. i got so hype after that.

- it seems like isha will become more of a symbol than jinx. from how she showed up at the rally to what went down at the end of the season. its giving rue in the hunger games, how she is seen as the innocence in this horrible conflict.

- that undercity doctor ALWAYS pissed me off i dont even remember his name thats how much beef i have with this man.

- even with all this beef i still understand all sides and love the politically tension because its ALWAYS more complicated than right and wrong.

- MEL WHERE ARE UUUU GIRL JOIN ZAUN PLSSSSSS COME TO US.

- im SO excited for the chromakopia edits on tiktok they always hit

- i hope vi and jinx stayed chill for the rest of the season i CANT have them beefing again. also excited to see how caitlyn fits into this dynamic.

- I CANT BELIEVE I ALMOST FORGOT THE FELICIA VANDER SILCO FLASHBACK!!! i genuinely LOVED seeing their relationship and younger silco made me cry a bit :( he deserved better.

- last thing i swear but jinx ate vi up in their fight the way she was like girl we both psychotic stop crashing out over your girlfriend and lock innnn

- also im a maddie defender SUE ME

[s0apmactav1sh]

What if? Vander x rival bar owner M!Reader.

Cw: old men, smut, Blowjob (Reader recieving) Vander is just an old man who wants to get fucked, rivalry between old men, Alt AU version of Vander.

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You and Vander who have been rivals since ye both opened your bars. The Last Drop being ultimately more popular than your for the obvious reasons. I mean who wouldnt want a man like Vander to serve them a drive. Many of his patreons going just to gawk at him. His popularity surpassing your own regardless of what you did.

It wasnt as if you were unfavourable but the hound of the undercity was optionally the better choice when it came to drinks. He had the charm and the friendliness that bartenders require whereas you were gruff. Rarely smiled and lacked the proper social ediqute that made you likeable to patreons. But god if it didnt make Vander stiffen in his pants watching as you huffed while bringing in barrels filled with drink. Hell he wanted to swap out being a bartender jusy to go to your bar to watch you work.

Underneath the whole rivalry sat a stable relationshio that no one in zaun wouldve suspected. (Silco was the one that pushed it to happen because he's a good brother to Vander and does want him happy) both of you getting on like a house on fire outside your working environment. The office in your bar being the usual meet up spot. Mostly because of the couch you had installed in it. (It was already broken from you two having sex on it one too many times.) Both of you are in your 40s and still that doesnt stop the shit you get up to.

Maybe thats what landed you two in this situation. With Vander on his knees, mouth wrapped around your thicker than average cock, sucking your soul from it. The man being obviously skilled in this practice. And you with your hands pulling his hair to keep the full length of yourself buried into the back of his throat, head lolled back against the wall lip being bit down on harsh enough to draw blood to supress the groans and grunts that wished to leave you. Anyone could see the both of you if they came out the back of your bar. And what a delicious sight it would be.

It wasnt the first time this had happened, no it was a constant situation you and Vander found yourself in, being unable to keep your hands off each other for more than 5 minutes when you were alone together.

Vander left you to do all the work, only hollowing his cheeks to bring the added pleasure when he sucked you off. His hands focused on steoking himself to an orgasm at the same time as your thrusts into his mouth. Not bothering to even attempt to keep his muffled sounds down. Each choke and gag that came from you hitting the back of his throat. Furiously picking up the pace when fisting his cock when you sped up. Using his tongue to poke at your tip to furthen tease you.

You who cant help but be rough. Its all you know to be, thrusting as quick as you could into his mouth and begging silently to the gods to let you cum quickly because your back was beginning to ache from standing for so long. (Chronic back pains that came from the various angles Vander had suggested when you two were fucking on the sofa.) The pressure building up in your stomach as a sign you were about to cum even though you had barely lasted 2 minute. But that didnt matter seeing as Vander was going cross eyed from how well you were fucking his mouth.

Both of you cumming at the same time. Your cum being eagarly swallowed by him while his cum was shot into his fist as he continued jerking off while you spurted cum into his mouth. Onky stopping when he became sensitive. Small huffs coming from you as you slowly pulled back and out of his mouth carefully pulling back up your trousers and doing the buckle on your jeans. A small glare on your face when you look at him (out of love of course. He always looked good when rode out his orgasm.) Helping him get back up because his knees had gone numb from kneeling.

Both of you kissing after it, deciding that you still had time to head up to your office and get a quickie inbefore he headed back over to the Last Drop to sleep.

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That felt good to write. Been holding that in since I busted after seeing Vander in the Alt AU. Fucking foamed at the mouth imagining him on top of me. Hes just so fuckable as an old man.

Cannot tell me he doesnt want his hair pulled constantly while hes getting fucked

[rah-nee-yah]

ok so its been a couple hours since ive watched s2 so here are some more coherent thoughts:

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGGHHHH

caitlyn caitlyn caitlyn. what the fuckkk. ima be honest its real hard being a caitlyn kiramman fan rn. hitting vi with a gun even after knowing her history with the enforcers. thats actually vile dude. and dude the fact she almost hit isha. i cant rn. the fact people were shitting on marcus for shooting at a kid and cait’s done the same. im still holding out for a redemption tho. pls bro. but tbh this made her character super intriguing. excited to see her redemption over act II

ALSO IT LITERALLY JSUT OCCURRED TO ME. cassandra built vents so the undercity could be free to breathe non toxic air. caitlyn just undid all of that. god help me.

vi, jinx, ekko, isha, maddie, and loris deserve the world. love em to bits.

the voice acting dude. top fucking notch.

i love the new intro. its greek tragedy is the best way. they were so foul for having caitvi in there 😭😭

i honestly wouldve loved to see more of every character. but unfortunately thats the problem with forty minute episodes ☹️☹️ (no hate tho i know animation especially arcanes can take a LOOONG TIME)

super excited for the next two acts dude. s2 act i didnt hit as hard as s1 but damn. they still cooked.

also. mel. they cant just leave us hanging like that 😭😭 my wife returns after three years then she dips 😔😔

theres so much i wanna say on the animation but id just keep yapping till the end of time. the woodkid sequence had be clawing at the walls

the fact this is only act i…were in for a WILD ride dude

[helplessavacado]

Arcane S2 Spoilers below the cut because I have some THOUGHTS

I apologize for the person I will become when this show ends because they are consuming my entire brain rn and I cannot imagine how crazy I'll be when the arcs are resolved

Calling Zaunites animals for attacking a memorial of Piltover's leaders/Caitlyn's mom... and then authorizing an attack on the Undercity's memorial for their leader/Vi's dad. A little bit of a double standard methinks. Just a tad of "it's fine when my people do it." Just a smidge. Caitlyn girl I love you as a character but the hypocrisy and privilege is POTENT and I cannot WAIT to see you get called out for it.

Also everyone was talking about how the JayVik divorce was rushed (which like, fair), but I don't see anybody talking about how Caitlyn's turnaround came out of nowhere. Like I know she wasn't on the best of terms with Ambessa in regards to continuing marshal law but that doesn't negate her quest for revenge and ending Jinx. I just??? I really hope we get a more in-depth explanation in arc 3 because that just felt too sudden. I trust the writers (rare in today's media) but that was very strange to me.

Also unless the orange-haired police officer is plot relevant in the next arc I see no point for her and Caitlyn hooking up other than to induce rage. The scream I scrumpt when that girl popped up on screen was primal because wow Caitlyn you really dumped Vi and decided to screw the Piltover version of Matilda. She wanted a yes-man with benefits and I really thought she was better than that. I am all for women's wrongs but damn.

Ekko. Where's my favorite character. YOU GAVE JAYCE BACK BUT WHERE IS EKKO???????? RIOT CAN YOU HEAR ME????? WHERE IS HE???????????? Heimerdinger is also there BUT WHERE IS EKKO

ANYWAY: JAYCE. JAYCE SHAVE THE BEARD ITS MAKING YOU EVIL. JAYCE. JAYCE WHAT DID YOU SEE IN THE ARCANE WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL WAS THAT. I CANT EVEN DEFEND YOU RIGHT NOW MY GUY. WHY DID YOU DO THAT. LET ME SEE THE VISIONS I N E E D TO UNDERSTAND.

Viktor I know you're gonna live because Duh the divorce arc isn't done yet but holy shit PLEASE backhand your ex-situationship for me

I S H A V A N D E R W H A T T H E F U C K. ISHA. WE HAD A HAPPY MOMENT WHY IS EVERYONE'S SOLUTION IN THIS FAMILY SELF-SACRIFICE VIA DEATH AND OR PERMANENT BODILY HARM???????? Sevika with her arm Jinx with the prison bust Vi with her everything Vander with his Also Everything HAVE YOU ALL PERHAPS CONSIDERED THAT A SACRIFICE COULD ALSO BE STRUGGLING THROUGH GRIEF TOGETHER?????

Ambessa. Ambessa when I catch you Ambessa. Singe what the hell my guy.

Mel honey you got this I believe in you. Kick some ass I NEED to see your badassery and new backstory because this is gonna be FUN.

[themostlesbianever]

EPISODE 8 OPINIONS AND THOUGHTS

- MEL BABY

- oh hello👀

- howd they make MEL hotter i didnt know that was possible

- OH ISNT THAT THE GIRL AMBESSA KILLED?

- oh dark shadow lady hello

- ambessa needs to calm the fuck down actually

- like aint no reason for a whole ass war be so fr rn ambessa

- SHE IS THE SECRET LOVE CHILD

- black women with gold stuff is so fuckin hot, like gold rings, gold makeup. Irs all so hot

- oh ambessa you are so hot

- singed can you leave vander alone actually, i dont think its a good idea to keep warwick going

- VIKTOR BABY COME BACK TO ME

- ambessa somehow looks softer, like her face

- hello viktor

- ew that's insanely scary viktor stop

- "in theory" NO STOP THIS IS A BAD IDEA VIKTOR STOP

- CAITLYN HI

- ISHA

- ISHA NO

- isha baby😔😔😔

- LORISSS

- jinx what

- jinx what

- HOLY SHIT MY LORD HELLO CAITLYN MESSY PONYTAIL

- YAY JINX IS ALIVE

- OH THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE THINK THEYRE GONNA FUCK

- please very aggressively make out

- oh it wasnt caits plan🙏

- shes changed because of isha, isha is gone now which means jinx is gonna not be mentally stable

- wheres my wife btw, they cant get away with not putting her in these episodes

- like shes been in two episodes? 3?

- braids are gone???

- ahw cait baby

- HELLO MEL

- why is jayce so obsessed with his hammer

- hes like "is that my gf?"

- AS IF MEL DECIDED TO SAVE YOU

- SHE DIDNT EVEN FUCKING KNOW SHE COULD SAVED ANY OF THEN YOU ASSHOLE

- jayce get rid of that fucking hammer

- robot viktor

- they JUST fixed this council room please do not fight in here

- viktor please do not🙏

- damn

- YES MEL GO ON

- oh

- is viktor fr dead now or??

- universe viktor is alive so probably no

- NO YOU MAY NOT DOCTOR

- DAMN JINX

- HELLO SILCO

- ew she had it in her mouth

- oh shes breaking her out

- ahw

- JESUS JINX LITTLE ASSHOLE

- jinx is gonna go kill herself probably vi

- hell yeah you have jayce

- GIRLFRIEND IS HERE

- HELLO BABY

- looking delicious as always

- fucking ambessa dude😠😠

- sorry this is so funny

- "topside and bottom" pans to sevika. I know shes from the undercity which us bottom but im just imagining sub sevika

-sevika baby dont walk away

- so now everyone is an enforcer?

- this lady is HOT

- hot lesbian sex time🙏

- damn vis hair has gotten long

- DAMN VI

- CAITLYN SHUT UP

- holy fuck

- damn that was good

- now its sevikas turn🙏

- SOFT AMBESSA HAS MY HEART LOOK AR HER FACE

- there is mean ambessa again😒

- AMBESSA BABY LET IT GO PLEASE STOP BEING A WAR HERO AND START BEINT A GOOD MOTHER

- im angry theyre using vander for this, he would never want this

- viktor please dont

- you actually csnt do this to me btw

- bye sky😔😔😔

- IS VANDER RESISTING????

- no😔

- fuck you ambessa

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[agoblincat]

Arcane season two act 2… just a stream of consciousness and random thoughts as I go thru watching and rewatching the show because its now my hyperfixation so don’t mind my rant here, pointed to no one in particular as I shout into the void (also spoilers, beware)

Okayyy starting with ep 4… caitlyn!! You dawg you, I can’t believe you! I still love you and I get it, but girlll ya moved on quick (tho i dont blame you) Im gonna feel so sad for vi knowing that vi hasn’t moved on as easily…

I also love the dynamic between sevika and jinx, especially in ep 4… jinx is so just fucking funny, like unbelievably quick witted and snarky. Funny little shit she is. Sevika is RIPPED and i love how she basically rallies the undercity and cares so much for the cause

Also circling back to caitlyn moving on and vi—speaking of oh ohh my gooddd viii VI you badass hot bitch! I feel for her so hard, she reminds me so much of me when I was younger….A fighter drowning her angst and sorrows in spirits… the anger and depression and substance abuse is heavy man, I relate to Vi the most in this series in a lot of ways. i loved the pit fighter sequence in ep 5 and the sibling reunion!

Oh my god the sibling reunion, the tunnel scene was so funny and cute when they were bickering they really are siblings!

Vander is alive holy shit I felt so happy for the girls

Also Vi and Cait reunion!!! I was SOOO worried it was gonna go bad but i had faith in them and gOD it was so good.

Then the last ep 6, holy shit… the family is reunited then torn apart! Why cant we have nice things GOD this can’t end well… in conclusion….

Every single character is beautifully crafted and flawed. The fact that you can witness every single one of their perspectives to a point that there is no black and white, true hero nor villain, just all shades of grey, people living their lived experiences and being justified by their actions separately…but together, inevitably, as Viktor says, “which inspires us to our greatest good, is also the cause of our greatest evil.” Like holy FUCK this shit is deep. This show goes real deep, everything about it… the music, animation, jesus its so good. THIS SHOW IS UNREAL

Ok rant over 👌 sorry I don’t normally go unhinged like this, but this piece of media makes me Feel things and I need an outlet with likeminded who stumble upon this and feel the same

[thewistlingbadger]

Hoping on this to absolutely agree with you. Im NEVER going to shut up about the writing in this season because its genuinely so odd. Especially in comparison to season 1. Act 1 or 2 dont even COMPARE to last season's acts 1 and 2 bc we're lacking cohesiveness. Let's talk about what season 1 finale set up:

Silco is gone, there is no leader of the undercity anymore

Vi lost her sister

Jinx is going full rogue, full crazy now

War is about to fall between zaun and piltover

Now let's see what season 2 did with these:

We were briefly shown the divide in the undercity and the lack of unity. However, it's not touched upon not nearly enough and once it does what the writers desired (make jinx a figure, unite sevika isha and jinx), it's completely abandoned. The season has yet to commit to what they want to do with silco. Sometimes he's brought up and it's some really beautiful continuity (the burial and the office). But other scenes make it seem like they don't actually want to commit to exploring the true depth that Silco's absence has bc sometimes it just doesn't come up at all. The revival of Vander also seems like a complete slap to the face when it comes to this point bc we got him back so quickly and he's accomplished so much. He got the family back together and he unlocked a different version of Jinx. Last season discussed in LENGTH how silco was Jinx's dad and oh look here's vander, coming back to claim is title. ADDITIONALLY, the emphasis of silco and vander in ep5? WHY? Why are we getting this specific flashback and what does it do for the story they're trying to tell in this season? IT. DIDNT (and im saying this as a person who absolutely enjoyed it).

Oh man, FUCK. THIS POINT. Fumbled, severally. The fall out with Jinx should have lead to a lot of self reflection with vi and thus, loads of character development. But did that happen? No. Instead, we got Vi switching up on Jinx so many times. Vi goes from "we'll always be sisters" to "if you have an opening, take it" in ZERO TIME. WHY. WHY cant they spend the time to add some complexity to a character who sees a world with no greyness? If anyone needed the development, it was fucking her.

Pff. Jinx only damages piltover minimally. Only three councilors die. She spends most of the season in hiding and becomes a symbol because...huh. I actually have ZERO CLUE WHY bc she doesn't do ANYTHING to earn the people's love. She's not out there fighting with them, leading them, calling for vengeance or ANYTHING. She became a symbol bc why the hell not. I thought we were gonna see her become more like her League self, but the opposite happened. She got less violent, less unhinged. And yeah it's been nice to watch her heal and it's kinda in character but it isn't what was set up last season.

This is the greatest let down. You spent ALL. ALL of last season establishing this conflict. Just to abandon it in season 2. Jinx's first attack? Avenging silco. The chem barons? Bought by Ambessa. Jinx's second attack? A complete accident. The current piltover and zaun unrest? Due to noxian control. Why would you establish this kick ass conflict between these two cities ONLY for noxus to steal the show :((( why would you do this to us?????

I love arcane but act 3 cant save this we're in too deep. Season two is nowhere near the story quality of season one, and i have no idea why it's like this. Everything in s1 was woven together, where everything in s2 is falling apart. They've added so many things without explaining any of them and it's made people sour. No one understands the black rose bc it wasn't explained. No one understands the new hexcore shit bc IT WASN'T EXPLAINED. I cant recall being this confused in s1, can you? They need to stick to the core of this show: relationships and change. Im not sure why it's happened like this but it has. Whenever I watch s2, all i think about is this one qoute from s1

"In trying to do great, we failed to do good."

I think that in trying to make s2 a showstopper, they lost sight on what truly mattered.

season 2 has a structure problem and that makes act 1 flow naturally enough and it sets up the next acts perfectly well, but they wanted to do so much more than what they were

1. setting up

2. capable of doing in 9 episodes

had they just cut a few plot lines everything would've moved far easier. For example

1. cut the Smeech thing entirely. Sevika and Jinx don't need this to find themselves together and start a found family. That scene In Silcos office was so moving and everything I always loved about Arcane, stuff like this is what's needed. In fact move the prison break to act 1 and have them handle that together, Jinx can still make Sevika her arm, and everything could've still moved the same. It would've fit so much better and there also would've been so much more time to develop anything else with the magic system and act 2 wouldn't feel like it was overflowing with anything and everything. Isha is a character that as of in the show can be cut so easily and that's so sad because she'd be so interesting. Everything about her would've worked and SHOULD HAVE worked but she also just felt like Plot and a thing to make Jinx sad over again. Either don't do that or make Isha not a character like this???? I liked her scenes with Jinx so much and the scene with Jinx freaking out after finding out that Isha was taken to prison was genuinely so good, I'm still holding on to the hope that they didn't actually kill her

2. either cut that shit with the tree because let's be so honest that basically only happened so that Heimerdinger, Ekko and Jayce could meet, since we do NOT even really talk about the tree in act 2? that was so weird. Like either actually make it a thing or find different ways to let characters meet naturally. I dont know, the show was so good with that in season 1. And if they truly wanted the tree scene at least make it make sense and don't randomly drop it Idk.

3. I LOVE Mel she is like my favorite character but the plot with the black rose takes so much necessary time away from what we actually need to focus on. I heard they want to make different shows so they are setting this up but it just doesn't work. Mel could've so easily been integrated into the main plot line and it would've also made so much more sense at that. Though I'll just wait on act 3 before I judge too hard. (if they actually DARE to make her pregnant Istg)

4. Making Jinx that hero character for only like, what, a few seconds was so strange. I hope act 3 gets that better but that, first of all, happened mostly out of no where and a few touches to her shoulder after the prison scene was also not??? helping??? either set that up from the very start or don't do it at all. She isn't a hero, she is a tragedy and someone who needs help and room to breathe. The scenes where they tried to make that funny, in my opinion didn't land at all. She doesn't need a hero complex she needs calmness and stable relationships. Let Isha live I swear to GOD.

in fact that leads me into the next point

5. Have Vi realize she doesn't want to be an enforcerer sooner? I actually do like how rushed that part felt don't get me wrong, but if they wanted a reunion between Jinx and Vi don't randomly put it into act 2 with barely any build up. Let Jinx and Vi realize it during the fight, they kinda did do that but??? just didn't move that anywhere. it's so strange. If they had cut the Smeech stuff they could've easily used the third episode to make Jinx and Vi slowly reconcile. Which also means I think Vi would've been such a better "symbol" than Jinx. Vi and Jinx, for me, show what Zaun is made of, and Jinx is quite literally the valid pain, distrust and anger of Zaun, and she as well as Zaun desperately need healing. Like that would've been SO COOL. that's just my opinion though, so there is that.

6. If they had made Vi the symbol the conflict between Caitlyn and Vi would've felt a lot more natural as well. Like??? Also Caitlyn should've had so much more time if they wanted that switch up in the end to work. Cut the black rose stuff and that would've worked perfectly fine.

7. Now do NOT get me wrong, Ambessa's character is so interesting and I feel like exploring her is so cool but she and her plot just doesn't fit into the Piltover/Zaun thing. It makes it too big for what the show is. In fact I (and now this is just my opinion, anyone can have their own just saying lmao) would've either cut out Ambessa's character/plotline or subtly continued Ambessas drama with Mel, which would give Mel, who didn't get taken by the black rose in my version, a lot more to do and way more interesting stuff too. Again this is very much my opinion and doesn't mean anyone needs to share it, but I feel like they could've easily made Heimerdinger be the one who gets Caitlyn to where she was/is with Ambessa. It would've expanded Heimerdingers character and it would've stayed in the setting they already perfectly build up, Piltover and Zaun. Also, Heimerdinger wouldn't just feel like a random joke character anymore.

8. The Pit fight stuff could have been SO interesting and I feel had we not stayed with Viktor Christ so much which was also so weird at times, we could've gotten so much necessary insight on Vi. If we follow my idea it could've been Vi forced to be a symbol because of the person she is. The embodiment of Zauns loyalty, strength and resilience. And then the fights that will come out of that forcing Vi to face so much stuff she shouldn't etc etc (I haven't fleshed that one out yet don't come for me) and that could've ended in her pit fighting era, which should've taken at LEAST an episode and not a random montage that just gets forgotten??? for no reason at all. Really hope act 3 talks about that cause??? I feel with Vi as the leader the healing of Zaun would make so much sense, because Jinx realistically can't do that. The idea of Jinx being in that position IS interesting I just feel it wasn't established/developed enough.

9. I really really liked how from the very beginning Viktor's safe haven did not in fact feel safe. There was always a very uneasy feeling and that's what I love about the show. I was always waiting for the shoe to drop and it happened, that was amazing. Though I would've either established a lot of this way earlier on in the show or made it not so, and now walk with me here Ik its magic, unrealistic. That does sound strange but having Viktor suddenly float in space with white silver flowing hair and his dead assistent next to him was... very very out of no where. It was like a lazy show trying to get away with "yeah well it's magic so of course this works" and I hate that because even magic needs explanation and build up. So yeah. Either cut that shit out or have it established sooner. And while seeing the one person who helped Jayce as a kid did kind of help, it still wasn't enough for THIS, though again MY OPINION. Also we spent way too much time there, it was getting ridiculous. So much time could've easily been lent to stuff that actually needed it. I actually laughed out loud when Viktor started the healing process with Vander because come ON now, and I do not think they wanted me to laugh.

10. The stuff with Vander, Silco and Felicia (while cute) was unnecessary and weird. What I liked the most about Vander taking in Vi and Powder was the feeling that he didn't do it because he necessarily knew them very well but because he knew their mom was dead (that did show he and their mother did kind of know each other but so do like all the people in the lanes that is kind of established) and wanted to PROTECT. This new context sadly makes it feel like "well of course he stopped everything and took them with them and cared for them he knew them since birth, duh" when I always wanted to feel "well Vander is in his heart a good man who saw what terrible stuff this war and fighting did and then took in orphaned children because of course he would do that" if that makes sense? I feel this new thing took away so much from Vander, but again that's maybe just me.

11. So many jokes and scenes didn't land with me. The scene with Jinx trying to show Sevika her middle finger was SO GOOD and so Arcane that seeing the scene were they try to make it funny with Jinx's trousers and that enforcerer felt so out of place? Like what. That scene could have EASILY been cut and nothing would have changed at all. And that's what is the worst because there isn't one scene in season 1 that I feel could've been cut and there are so many of them in season 2.

12. Introducing Maddie in act 1 made me believe she'd be a bigger, even more of a threat to Zaun, character than she was and that's so sad. What I loved about season 1 is that every single character mattered. Even those we saw maybe once. This time around I hardly cared at all for any new character because they didn't feel like a Person anymore, they just felt like Plot. In season 1 episode 1 there is this scene, the first scene Vander gets to speak in. The only reason Huck meets the woman and the man to trait was basically so we get to know how the undercity works and establish Vander as basically its leader and protecter; The one people are loyal to etc. But it doesn't feel that way. It's something that naturally happens and every character in that scene, even the man and the woman we never see again, mattered and felt real.

yeah so those were really just my thoughts. I could very much go on but I also don't want to.

[claggorstuff]

The most unbreakable of spells... Part five ★

Its been about 10 months now, and the one thing I dreaded happened, I know its part of relationships.. but, it scared me, he scared me, he was yelling like a madman.. we'd gotten into our first REAL fight, sure there were a few little arguments that were quickly diffused.. but this was different.

"ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! YOU JUST CALLED THE WHOLE OF THE UNDERCITY A DUMP HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO BE FINE?!"

"I-I thought.. I thought we were just joking around..! Cla-"

"NO! NO WE WERENT!"

"Im.. s-sor-"

"stop. STOP. you cannot be serious youre acting like I just slapped you if you cant handle YELLING then dont fucking MAKE FUN OF MY HOME!"

"I didnt mean to.. Im so so s-sorry.." I know he wouldnt hurt me but he LOOKED like he would, he knows how to intimidate someone, leaning over them and puffing his chest like a lion, eyebrows furrowed and voice booming.

I acted out of instinct, pushing him away and running.. but he didnt chase me, he wouldnt chase me, he knew I was scared and that we both needed some time.. I

I ran to the slytherin dorms to talk to my little sister and her friend powder.. his sister, I burst into her dorm and tripped over some trinkets, they were visiting vis girlfriend, caitlyn.. after all they have 3 years until they enter hogwarts with us

My sister ran up to me with a hug "y/n!"

"I missed you y/n!"

"You coulda visited sis, you know that.." I wiped my tears sniffling, she of course noticed this and hugged me again, this time silent as I rubbed her back.

"What happened..?" Powder inquired

"Me and claggor got in a fight.. its nothing really powder, dont worry.."

She suddenly ran off without a word, a wand in her hand.. "shit." I went to chase after her, she was bolting to my dorm and I had to stop to catch my breathe, I couldnt take it anymore and just sat there in tears.. why cant she ever just leave things alone? Soon a firm hand was placed on my shoulder, I looked up scared about if i'd see claggor but instead it was vander, him having to monitor powder and my sister.

"Heard what happened, you okay..?"

"NO! IM NOT!" I snapped at him, I have to admit he truly is a patient man.. he sat next to me rubbing my back and soon claggor came out, being dragged by powder, he saw my state and his eyebrows furrowed "I.. uhm... I.."

"Im sorry claggor.. Im really really sorry.." He shouldnt be the one apologising, I was the one who insulted his homeland, it isnt right to make him apologise for getting mad.

"No.. I know.. I wanted to say sorry for uh.. making you.. cry.." he sat on the other side of me and vander left us alone dragging powder out, claggor rubbed my back letting me get all the tears I had left out, gently kissing the top of my head

"Do we need time to talk..? Or do we need time to just, sit here... quietly, so that we both wind down.." he whispered into my ear

"Lets talk.. I think that'd help.." he nodded and we left to talk privately in my room about the events of today.. that wasnt as bad as I thought, was it..

End of part 5 ★

[bunbunsie]

Been thinking about how Cait is considered one of the most lawful good out of the entire 50 shades of grey morality cast.

Jayce, while considered heroic, engaging in back room dealing and..child killing. Even Vi, with her admirable shounen protagonist's heart of gold, can be callous with her words and doesnt mind a few deaths if her goals was destroyed. Heimerdinger is good but his inaction and ignorance toward The Undercity's suffering clearly doesnt help anything. Every characters have their good and bad, has done some pretty shits thing (some more than the others)

And there you have Caitlyn. Sweet, kind Caitlyn who wants to protect everyone. Who believes in justice and law, who choose to be a cop because her mentor figure, Grayson is a noble one. Who shows Vi that maybe there is one topsiders that care about the suffering of the undercity people and want to help.

But unlike Ekko (he's a golden boy!! Too good for this world), i think her goodness was borned out naivete, privilege and her shelter upbringing. She's outwordly good because the wolrd around her (safe and prosper and full) allowed her to be one, unlike Vi has to harden herself to protect her own family. Cait's mother really didnt let her see the real world, see the shady things that happened inside the room and outside the shiny surface of Piltover. Her little rebellions like joining the police or releasing Cait may sound revolutionary and daring for Cait herself, but she wont suffer from harsh punishment (like death) and honestly, it doesnt mean much in the grand scale of things

But along the story, her innocent got chipped away, bit by bit. She got shocked at the fact that Vi was beaten by jailers, her parents was killed by wardens (who she thought was a symbol of justice). She saw the awful things at the Undercity. When She turned to her mom and Jayce to help, she still think simply talking to the Council would change their mind and not even take in any other factors (like they simply didnt give a fuck about the undercity lol). Cait is your avarage good law abiding child who has utmost faith in the just, and honestly, I cant blame her. She's like a light that is too good to be true.

Anyway, i do think her naivete goodness will be blown away soon. She was ready to fire at Jinx, showed that she's willing to let her hand stain blood to protect herself and loved on (Vi). Still, she stopped at Vi's pleading. But Jinx has fired the rocket at the Council, where her mother - her safe haven whether she liked it or not- is in. The death flag is flying high.

Cait will be forced to change, and lose a little bit of goodness in her, to be replaced by anger, hatred and grudge. At Jinx, at Vi for stopping her. Maybe she will ready to do shady things, to harm thing to reach her goal. Maybe she will chase after Jinx with the intend to Kill, to revenge

Idk, i want that for her in season 2, it would make her blend in with the rest of the cast's greyness. With how the writer crews has exceed our expectation, i have faith that they will handle her arc right.

[kargathbladefist]

okay wait this is a really good idea hold on

S Tier:

Orgrimmar (smoke and bbq; good ventilation, probably windy in the canyons)

Darnassus (tree)

A Tier:

Gilneas (fresh muddy dead leaf smell like when it rains in autumn)

Silvermoon

Thunder Bluff (probably smoky like org but windier and more ventilated. smells like summer)

B Tier:

Exodar (wtf would a spaceship even smell like, not bad i guess so i cant put it any lower)

C Tier:

Dazar’alor (would expect the air to be fresh given it’s (lore-wise) high up in the mountains and surrounded by dense vegetation.. but the lower port half of it is probably not as nice. i feel like thered be so many crammed bodies filling the streets 24/7 coupled with dinosaurs shitting wherever they want and the smell of the harbor.  that being said i feel like the zandalari have a much better grasp on waste management and drainage systems, so it goes above the human cities)

D Tier:

Shattrath (draenor is a dead planet so i cant imagine it smelling nice)

Stinky Poo Poo Tier:

Dalaran (sewers, population density; probably smells like new york)

Stormwind City (see above. canals are probably like the hudson or charles river, youll contract something if you swim in them... horses are their racial mount so theyre probably pooping all over the place. given how many people have died in the great sea i cant imagine the harbor smelling good either.)

Boralus (see above)

Undercity Tier

Undercity

[sergeanthatredbignaturals]

Vro don’t get me started in Vander (it’s too late, the reason this response took as long as it did is bc i was literally writing out an essay about him)

I put my whole B in English Literature into this

Point one

“When people look up to you, you don’t get to be selfish”

“But whatever happens, it’s on you”

Would you stop projecting your guilt onto this kid for like five seconds oml 😭

Stop making your guilt bet problem dawg, she isn’t you, stop projecting like she is

An’ before y’all bring up Silco’s projection onto Jinx, yeah, I’m aware. My point is y’all rant and rave about Silco, and ignore that Vander does the same shit with Vi, I’m not ignoring it, im just pointing out Vander does it too

Point two

Also, can we talk about Vander’s clear favouritism real quick? He does the whole tough love thing, tells the rest of them to clear off, and then treats Vi’s wounds, and reassures her before leaving to nab one of Mylo’s things, and get Claggor to haul ass over to Benzo’s without saying anything like he did to Vi, and leaving them to patch themselves up, leaving it entirely up to Vi.

Point three

“That path, this, it’s not gonna solve your problems, it just makes more of them”

“Oh, you did put that idiot on his ass though, right?”

Telling Vi that violence doesn’t solve anything, and then minutes later making sure she beat someone’s ass. Does that not read as hypocritical to anyone else? Wtf is that gonna teach her? Violence is a-ok as long as it’s not directed at your oppressor? Obviously that’s a tad hyperbolic, but y’all see my point here, right?

Point four

“How could she be so stupid?”

“Yeah, and Vi’s one of them. Throws herself at trouble wherever she can find some”

Girl stfu, you were the exact same at her age, fuck you were the same a decade ago, don’t act like you don’t know where this is coming from. Bro is such a fuckinf hypocrite, projecting onto Vi and then having the nerve to be confused when she ends up acting like you? You’re actually taking the piss

Point five

“I’m protecting our people”

And how are you doing that? By allowing enforcers to ransack the place? By letting your people suffer further by the hands of enforcers? By doing nothing as your people are quite literally tossed around by them? Sorry, i don’t remember any part of that falling under “protection”. That’s you turning a blind eye to matters that don’t impact you directly. That’s you looking out for those close to you, and no one else. We have no idea how long this would have gone on for. The enforcers were told “Do whatever it takes. Turn the Undercity upside down if you have to. Just find them.” In all of that, the people of Zaun, your people, would be subjected to ever increasing violence by the hands of enforcers. How many more would have to die by the hands of an enforcer for you to actually step up, and actually protect your people. Your aren’t protecting your people, you’re protecting those close to you, and staying willfully ignorant to the fates that befall those you don’t know. You’re allowing this cycle of violence to continue because you’re too afraid to do what needs to be done. You don’t have the ability to do what Zaun needs anymore, and your people are starting to realise that.

Point six

“If i hadn’t, your parents would still be alive”

He clearly blames himself heavily for every that happened that day, and i cant blame him for it. I get it, i really do, but if you are so blindsided by your own trauma that you cannot do what needs to be done for the betterment of your people, then you are not fit to lead them.

Say what you will about Silco, but he was willing to do damn near anything for his peoples freedom from Piltover.

Point seven

“Without you down here, it all falls apart” -Grayson

And she’s right. These people are itching for about her chance against Piltover, you didn’t think they’ll not take you getting shoved in Stillwater for fuck knows how long incentive enough? You took away what’s basically their leader, it’s hardly a stretch to say that would be taken as an act of war. I bet he did t have a whole lot of choices, but he really didn’t think that through at all.

Overall, I put my whole autism diagnosis into this, and ended up writing three A4 pages in making this, which is more than i wrote for more English Lit essays i had to do 💀

P.S. i will have distinctly more to say when the inevitable flashbacks happen in s2

P.P.S. Go read this, it greatly inspired a hell of a lot of the points i made in this

I'm genuinely so sick of the silco hate. Yes he's a bad guy. Yes he's committed very serious crimes and is a violent person and a murder. Those are all very valid reasons to dislike a fictional character. But there are just some things people like to shit on silco for that truly aren't his fault.

Imagine if YOU were a single dad to a mentally ill teenager and at the same we're trying to manage a business, gain independence for your country, AND deal with other bullshit nonsensical problems. I'd be pissed too, I'd be stressed the fuck out too. People can't seem to push past the bad and see the truth; because all of this shit IS NOT hidden in the show it's at the forefront. Silco has a lot of shit on his plate and he has to deal with everything at the same fucking time ALONE. This guy's life is hell on the average day but during arcane? Nah my man was fighting for his life literally and figuratively.

Jinx's entire behavior can NOT be blamed on silco it genuinely cannot and it's silly to even think such a thing. I'm so sick of people trying to make him the scapegoat when it comes to her situation. "He didn't try to heal her" in the city where we know that canonically, there are no doctors? Tell me, oh wise one, where the hell silco, of all men, was going to find a therapist for his daughter and medicine for her psychosis? Like BITCH PLEASE! PLEASE! That's ridiculous.

Silco himself IS MENTALLY ILL, OF COURSE HE'S GOING TO TRY TO GIVE HER THE SAME SHITTY COPING SKILLS HE USES FOR HIMSELF! AND GENUINELY, IS HE WRONG FOR THAT? I don't believe so.

"oh he's the reason jinx was tortured-" you mean when silco held his DYING daughter in his arms and tried to save her? When he, at his old fucking age, ran all the way from the bridge to singed SINGLEHANDEDLY to get her the ONLY MEDICAL ATTENTION the undercity has? Did you truly forget that singed knocks silco out during this scene. If so, rest assured, because has silco been MENTALLY PRESENT in that scene, he would have never allowed that shit to happen. The moment he wakes up and sees that she's fucking gone and the table is bloody, he IMMEDIATELY threatens singed and asks what the fuck he did. Don't put that shit on him he had no idea.

Yes this man is a piece of shit but he's a man none the less can we cut him a fucking break PLEASE!