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Academy Arcanist by Shami Stovall #BlogTour #BookReview #YA #Fantasy #5stars

Thank you to The Write Reads for my spot on this blog tour. Book Info Genre: Fantasy, YA, Magic Length: 446 Pages Published: 23rd August 2022 Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Academy-Arcanist-1-Astra/dp/1957613173 Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60839624-academy-arcanist? Blurb Hopes. Dreams. And literal nightmares out to kill a young boy. Gray Lexly, son of a candlemaker,…

[freakratt-moved]

Ok but can I just say

Candlemaker in those stilettos gonna make me act up 😏

[mwagneto]

walk a mile in these louboutins

[docgold13]

I do recall somewhere in the Vertigo days Caulder did apparently feel guilty for what he did to the Doom Patrol so much so that he tore off his own head & they essentially put him on life support & became a talking head.

The Candlemaker is the one who tore off the Chief's head. The head got put in a vat to support brain functioning and whatnot and only then, totally at his Doom Patrol's mercy did he start expressing feelings of remorse.

The DP television show's iteration of Caulder is significantly more benevolent than his comic book analog. The comic book Chief is basically Reed Richards with zero scruples.

[augustheart]

hello after liking doom patrol for ~6 months and doing nothing about it i am wondering if you can make a dp reading list (not like, every issue but the ones you think are important)?

Sorry this took me a second to finish! Here are in my opinion the essential Doom Patrol issues. I left out some runs altogether because you really do not need to read them--in vol. 3′s case those characters aren’t seen again in any notable capacity and in vol. 4′s case it was a total reboot that was wiped from canon. It’s also literally repulsive past a certain point and is a part of Byrne’s very disturbing trend that makes me think he should be investigated.

Bolded ones are ones I can vouch for as being good/personal favorites. Some of these have potentially triggering subject matter in them, shoot me an ask with the issue and I can probably break the warnings down and definitely can for the ones in the bolded issues. 

vol. 1 (My Greatest Adventure/Doom Patrol (1964) by Arnold Drake--many of these are essential because of character introductions): 

#80, #84, #86-91, #100, #104, #107, #121

vol. 2 (Doom Patrol (1987) by Morrison, Pollack. Technically Kupperberg as well, but we’re skipping him, if you want to go back and read his run I’d recommend skipping the showcase stuff and just picking and choosing the pre-Morrison vol. 2 issues. They’re not...uh...great):

#19-22 (Morrison opening arc), #25-30, #35-36, #42, #54, #62, #64-66 (Pollack opening arc), #70, #74-79, #81-82

vol. 5 (Doom Patrol (2009) by Giffen):

#6-9, #13-15, #21

vol. 6 (Doom Patrol (2016) by Gerard Way): 

#1-6, #8-12

Looking at this it feels pretty short, but it’s honestly a lot of issues. There are some more in vol. 2 that I enjoy/feel are semi-important (“Imagine Ari’s Friends” by Pollack and the entire Candlemaker arc of Morrison’s for example), and I think I’m technically supposed to tell you that Milk Wars/Doom Patrol: Weight of the Worlds are essential, but while I do genuinely think the JLA/Doom Patrol segments of Milk Wars are good, they’re not necessary. And the less people who read Weight of the Worlds, the better.

I hope this helps you on your Doom Patrol Journey™!

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DP 2x09 HOT TAKE

SPOILERS

SERIOUSLY? CLIFF HAD TO MISS HIS DAUGHTER’S WEDDING?! YOU BETTER SHOW IT NEXT SEASON AT LEAST!

I’ll admit, watching Kipling being dragged away by his Punch and Judy puppet of an imaginary friend had me in stitches.

Because of COURSE Vic and Rita had imaginary friends inspired by their parents.

Cliff beating the shit out of Jesus and vice versa was something I didn’t know I needed.

Those flashbacks with Miranda definitely pulled at my heartstrings. I honestly felt so much for what she was going through, and how raw and real it all looked. I guess the one good thing to come out of it was Jane’s badass introduction.

So...are Larry, Rita, and Vic’s storylines being wrapped up next season at least? Because they still need to be addressed.

MIRANDA WAS DEAD THE WHOLE TIME AND BEING IMPERSONATED BY KAYS DAD? Damn, what a twist!

Props to Dorothy for finally growing some balls to fight the Candlemaker. Though can somebody, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, slap Niles so he feels bad for making this happen in the first place?!

UM, GIVE US A SEASON THREE PLEASE!

[paramar]

i think i said something like this before but again: i do like the idea of showing the doom patrol losing to highlight how dorothy is the one who is gonna solve the candlemaker situation as opposed to a third party -like niles or the dp- doing it for her (and there were many beats that showed that this was intentional, her using her own weapon, reassuring niles, etc). is just that it has like, zero meaning if our heroes are always losing.

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Doom Patrol Season 2 Episode 4 Review: Sex Patrol

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This Doom Patrol review contains spoilers.

Doom Patrol Season 2 Episode 4

The theme of families is a constant one in Doom Patrol, but this week the show leans heavily into the notion that our loved ones, especially parents, are the reason we’re all so screwed up. In a 1960s flashback, we see Danny The Street (and not yet a brick) and Niles trying to protect Dorothy by keeping her separated from the world. But they effectively treat her like a prisoner, a choice that is certain to haunt them as Candlemaker appears to be growing in strength.

Meanwhile, Rita’s orgasmic trip digs up a repressed memory of her mother sleeping with a producer to land her daughter a role, and Cliff seems to finally be coming to terms with the fact he wasn’t a great man when he was a man. As for Larry, his own self-loathing gets in the way of him having fun or flirting. And with Jane locked away, the Underground’s mission to protect Kay actually puts the girl in more danger with the arrival of the sex demon.

But the trauma of our characters is served up with a lot of joy. Danny and the Dannyzens are perhaps the best characters on the show, made even better by how strategically they are used. As soon as Flex Mentallo (Devan Long) and Maura Lee Karupt (Alan Mingo, Jr.) arrives at Doom Manor, a lightness overtakes the entire show (because, let’s face it, our core characters are a bunch of wet rags). Nurse Karupt gives an inspiring sermon about Danny being more than a street, but a concept of love – and thus a party is needed to revive them.

Indeed, Danny is the heart of the show, and a representation of pure kindness. As Maura Lee says to Vic – in an incredibly topical monologue about a world filled with intolerance – a person needs to go to a place where they feel loved. Danny is that place. And the Dannyzens welcome, and soothe troubled souls. I challenge you not to get misty when Maura Lee and Flex envelop Dorothy with badly needed warmth, and make her feel important.

The authentic emotions represented by a sentient genderqueer street/brick, and their Dannyzens, is why the Willy Wonka “Pure Imagination” number works so well. Rather than a jarring detour, the musical interlude fits because a kinder world is possible; if you can dream it, you can make it happen, much like love can bring Danny back to life.

But with Danny off on their own adventures, can the Doom Patrol become a place where this misfit family feels loved? It remains a question mark, but there seems to be potential.

Also, Abigail Shapiro deserves recognition for the excellent work she’s doing as Dorothy. Not only is it great to have the Broadway actress sing in this episode, she’s navigating the childlike precociousness, innocence, and frustrations of a wounded forever 11 little girl who feels ugly and is desperate to grow up. Dorothy can easily become a Cousin Oliver type of character, but Shapiro demands empathy as Niles Caulder’s daughter. She is so successful I find myself getting pissed at the other characters when they are unnecessarily harsh to her. And Niles was a straight up jerk when he saw Dorothy wearing makeup.

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Speaking of Niles, it continues to be a pleasure to have so much Timothy Dalton this season. He masterfully switches between Scientist Niles — offering up ecstasy to Cliff — Sweet Dad Niles, Overly Protective Jerk Dad Niles, Regretful Niles, and the Niles who can deliver a line like, “Listen to them, Vic, they’re the sexperts” with campy gravitas.

Those sexperts are, of course, the SeX Men who have been adapted from the comics into a

Ghostbusters-esque team who arrive at Doom Manor to save the world from a paranormal sexual event caused by Rita’s off-the-charts nature-montage-inspiring orgasm from Flex Mentallo’s super-powered muscle flexing that allowed the sex demon the Shadowy Mr. Evans to open a sex vortex, manifest sex ghosts, and give birth to a sex demon baby that, when it cries, will unleash an adults-only X-rated hedonistic hellscape, and make every child in the world go “poof.”

(And that might be the best run-on sentence I’ve ever typed.)

I don’t know what more to say about this, other than “Yes!” It’s all hilariously executed, and shows why Doom Patrol could not work if it was not R-rated.

Regarding Candlemaker, Doom Patrol appears to be on the cusp of doing more with the Dorothy’s “friend.” As he gains strength, and speaks in complete sentences, he effectively manipulates the girl more and more, almost causing her to kill Danny (which Vic witnesses, but remain particularly mum about).

At the moment Candlemaker seems to be the Big Bad for the remainder of the season, and it concerns me slightly. I trust what showrunner Jeremy Carver and the writers are doing with Doom Patrol, but can’t help but have reservations that a giant computer-generated villain will detract from the character work that makes this series such a delight.

Just a couple final notes:

Happy, drugged up, super huggy Cliff is almost as fun as pissed off, F-bomb-dropping Cliff.

Larry looks ready to leave DP, but in the meantime, he’s doing a great job being a buzzkill with his “If I take them off, everyone here will die…just completely melt, and die.” Poor self-loathing Larry.

While I don’t tend to want too much from the Underground, it did feel like we were missing out on Jane’s rise back to the top.

As far as the other alters go, we know Hammerhead does not like being hugged, but I expected more from Scarlet Harlot. Based on her comic book character, she can absorb psychosexual energy and fire ectoplasm, but the SeX Men didn’t even notice her. And, as previously mentioned, they’re the sexperts.

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[paramar]

unassorted clifford steele’d thoughts:

- i like how in his fantasy scenario you can hear the Wilhelm scream. it feels appropriate.

- i can’t get over how technically he’s the only one who could defeat his imaginary friend before the candlemaker took over.

- regarding the already mentioned fantasy scene, i know the intention of having him wear a dress and a wig is for us to laugh at it. yeah yeah maybe in his subconscious he can explore gender more etc etc. but that was not the intention and we all know it.

- it was nice that he realized that the one talking about the shirt wasn’t jane, even tho the scene later became the last of the “this new alter is awesomer than everyone!” scene that the other DP members already had (scenes that are there as a build-up for the reveal later)

- i liked how when we met his daughter i assumed she would be put off by his dad swearing but then she herself does it a lot too. that was both funny and endearing

- i have trouble wording this (and this is just my own opinion) but the amount of “haha, Cliff never learns!” moments kind of feel sad and pathetic instead of funny. and the show doesn’t pay them enough attention to look at it as a meaningful theme. I mean the quick transitions from “i was already turning into my old man > kids fuck up your life!” and “i’m okay with helping the chief’s daughter > FUCK saving dorothy”. it feels like trying to have both robotman the funny lead and Cliff Steele Sad Moments. if you want to make us believe there’s meaningful character development in the show you gotta decide.

- i’m really awaiting a bootleg steele ep for the third season because of the way the narrative seems to imply cliff viewing himself as nonhuman instead of an extremely disabled person as a positive development. but given the...” emphasis” of conflating cliff’s gender with his genitals not really holding my breath for any cis writer to do it? anyways

[augustheart]

As someone who hasn’t gone very deep into dp comics, what’s up with candlemaker? Just curious why you’re so wary abt this season....

the candlemaker is the “big bad” of morrison’s doom patrol run after whatever he was doing with niles. he’s supposedly representative of humanity’s fear of nuclear war, which... i think is a topical issue to this day and a realistic fear many people have. as a villain capable of destroying the world and almost killing un-killable entities like danny he’s... fine, i guess? his design is cool? the problem comes in how he’s connected to dorothy.

she didn’t create him, but she thought she did, and oh boy! i love seeing fictional disabled children go through hell and back because morrison thinks it’d be fun to completely rip her apart emotionally! like i can’t stress enough that this is used to literally torment this girl constantly. characters need to go through conflict but jesus fucking christ i don’t want to have to go through this again. i think the moment where she tells him he has no power/faces him down is supposed to be empowering? it’s certainly framed that way. and it is a “good for her” thing to me i guess. but it doesn’t make up for... all of that.

i feel like i’m doing a really really bad job of explaining why it’s such a horrendous storyline re: everything it does for dorothy but part of that is just because it’s completely fragmented and morrison’s run refuses to stick in my brain. just know it’s used to unnecessarily cause pain for dorothy when there have been several genuinely good stories written about her Going Through It where she actually grows and learns to love herself without like. finding the corpse of one of the only two people to ever love her dead on the floor where he was murdered. except those ones were written by pollack, so we’ll never see them! 

the only upside is that it kills niles’ body so... cheers bro i’ll drink to that.

(note: in this answer i didn’t mention anything about him sending the underground to “the real world” and the issue that chronicles that, which was the finale of morrison’s run, because if i think about it at all i get very panicky and reading it has sent me into depressive episodes before (very stupid, i know). just know that considering the show’s approach to showcasing psychiatric abuse previously, i also wouldn’t want them to adapt this issue.) 

[paramar]

with only one episode left, i think it might be fun to speculate how the series may adapt more stuff from the comics in the future. okay, so far in the first season:

- we have elements of the original arnold drake run (rita, the red uniforms, brotherhood of evil and the giant robot, animal vegetable mineral man, fuchs being sort of like immortus/zahl)

- elements of most of the first half of morrison run (danny, jane, flex mentallo, mr. nobody, etc)

- even some stuff referencing kupperberg's comics like joshua, arani. also plenty of stuff referencing the series mythos (niles has secrets, an “original” doom patrol with a tragic end, etc). so with this in mind, this is how i’d like them to do stuff for future seasons:

second season:

- second half of morrison stuff (dorothy, brotherhood of dada, candlemaker, yankee doodle dandy. maybe bring some elements from the first half like red jack or the scissormen, which may provide interesting episodes)

- pollack’s run (kate, the bondage people, maybe doom manor gets destroyed and they need to go to violet valley?)

- a bootleg steele episode would be cool. an also necessary to contrast the implications from jane patrol. tying the themes of identity and humanity to cliff and emphasizing that he is still a human and a man because he says so.

- the chief is a severed head for most of the season, we see a casey comic in the background, monsieur mallah and the brain, etc

third season:

- borrow some elements from arcudi’s run? maybe the team has to deal with a tv-sponsored doom patrol or something. there were some good ideas here that would be cool to see explored.

-a 30-second long nightmare sequence of byrne’s run

-giffen’s run (mr. somebody, bumblebee, was gonna say ambush bug but that may be a bit too chaotic)

- way’s run (casey, terry, lucius, the team says fuck the chief for real. put the “come out of the rain” scene in the last ep, but all of the dp are with cliff and danny this time).

fourth season: okay, the show is fun and all, yeah. but this is still made by one of the supernatural people. do we really want it too last too long?

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- a doom force tv special