#camp cretaceous mosasaurus

[swan2swan]

Until someone from the staff says otherwise, I will stake actual, genuine money that this was an exchange from the writer's room that made it into the show.

[sparkshock]

he dropped a gallon of koolaid (he's clincally insane)

[silverthelovebug]

Okay, so, who do I have to commission to make a “Yaz dies from the Mosasaurus” fic?

NOBODY GIVE ME WEIRD LOOKS BECAUSE YOU GUYS LOVE MAKING BEN ACTUALLY DIE TO THE PTERANODONS !!! I’ve seen the fics ,,

The scenes happen back to back too, so it’s like — almost equal amounts of angst !! Because when Yaz breaks her ankle and Sammy runs over to her, she’s still pissed at Sammy, so imagine the guilt Sammy must feel if she watches Yaz die in front of her without ever making things right ??? Not to mention Ben’s guilt of feeling like he caused her death bc he was slowing them down with Bumpy. Maybe even Kenji too for not pulling her to safety fast enough with the feeding hook !!

Which is an ironic name..

I’d write it myself if I had the motivation to finish things ..

[jwcc-confessions]

Dave gives off sexist vibes in first half of season 1.

He repeatedly undermined and downplayed Roxie’s authority and focused almost entirely on the boys, barely interacting with Sammy, Brooklyn, and Yaz,

I always interpreted his interactions with Roxie like a general insecurity and figured he'd act like that with any other camp counsellor.

But that's kinda true he doesn't interact with the girl campers nearly enough.

Thoughts?

[jurassicparkjurassicworldtoys]

Mosasaurus

[jesse-pinko]

Camp Cretaceous reaffirming my belief that Bryce Dallas Howard’s character in Jurassic World should have gone to JAIL these kids were already stumbling into dinosaur paddocks before the Indominus even escaped!! Why does the river ride have an alternate tunnel leading directly into the Mosasaurus exhibit lmao?!

[chronically-unlucky]

How to properly enrich your dinosaurs genetically engineered monsters so they don’t breach containment

Velociraptors

I feel like they were on the right track in Jurassic World letting the raptors chase the pig and training them tricks to keep their brain stimulated, but they didn’t take it far enough. Give them puzzles to work out for treats. Large scale versions of the ones they use for cats and then eventually move on to toddler puzzles once they’ve clearly mastered the cat ones. You will have to move on from the toddler puzzles so I recommend hiring a professional puzzle maker. Do not make an escape room puzzle. You do not want your raptors thinking about escaping places. We want them to have enrichment so they don’t want to escape, but if you give them a pretend escape room they’re going to see their enclosure as a new level.

Tyrannosaurus Rex

Honestly I don’t know if we have enough of their behavior patterns to accurately predict what their enrichment needs are. We do have Dr. Grant stating that they want to hunt instead of being fed, but if we’re counting Camp Cretaceous in our lore here (which I am), they will also eat food that’s been left for them, which is actually accurate to real t rexes as they would hunt prey and scavenge. But in lieu of any other potential avenues for enrichment I’d say better to let Rexy hunt. You might just have to focus on keeping your fence going with backups upon backups and systems that can’t be shut down by a single person. Spared no expense my ass

Spinosaurus

We also don’t see enough of the Spinosaurus to predict her enrichment needs, but I think a solidly land based enclosure was a mistake. Her enclosure should look a bit closer to that of a turtle’s but on a much larger scale obviously. I’d say also to build her enclosure away from other predators as she seems to seek out fights for fights sake, though this behavior could be attributed to boredom and potentially could be avoided with proper enrichment, but aside from allowing her to hunt we don’t have any indication from canon as to what she would need to properly stimulate her. I think perhaps you could try the puzzles from the velociraptors on a scale appropriate for her as she does peel open an airplane for “treats”. Most importantly though don’t do fucked up experiments on her to give her a personal vendetta against humans.

Dilophosaurus

Okay, I know we see even less of them than we do rexy or the Spinosaurus, but I think we get a little more here. Frilled lizards exist and I think we can carry over their enrichment over to the dilophosarus which means giving them places to hide and things to explore. Also I think they’d go crazy over a lazer pointer so maybe get one that’s on an automatic system that they can turn on themselves. Again, letting them hunt is incredibly important.

Pterodactyls

The birdcage is a good idea, but poorly executed in canon. Yeah I get they want the guests to see as much as possible, but glass? Cmon. The birdcage in JP3 is much better, though obviously keeping up maintenance is absolutely crucial. I would say though to make some tunnel things that are actually meant for them and little structures they can hop on like when they were chasing Eric. Also probably get birds to use as prey for them so they can get some real exercise in.

Mosasaurus

Listen. I’m gonna be honest here and say I have no fucking idea how to properly enrich sea creatures. The only thing I can say is that the lagoon isn’t big enough. For an orca maybe, but for that giant?? Absolutely not. In fact, making an enclosure properly sized for the mosasaur would likely involve less building an enclosure and more fencing off a significant portion of the ocean. And on top of that, the potential consequences of the mosasaurus getting loose are far worse than any other animal in Jurassic Park/World. Yes the land based carnivores can kill millions, but if the mosasaurus reached the open ocean the impact it would have a devastating impact on the environment as it would be the absolute apex predator with nothing on earth capable of stopping it but it’s eventual death.

Herbivores

I’m not going to go into herbivores enrichment as they’re not a huge problem in canon, buuut I think letting guests just walk freely among them was not the move. Just because they’re not interested in eating people doesn’t mean they’re not interested in killing people. The gyrosperes were a step up from the jeeps, but I’d say still pushing it. The zip line in Camp Cretaceous actually seems like the best idea canon has for guests viewing the herbivores, but I would recommend at least daily if not twice daily maintenance checks. Also don’t put fuckin poisonous plants where they can be found by the herbivores. I know they “don’t eat them” but it’s too risky in case they do eat them. At best you’re looking at the world’s most expensive vet bill, but at the most realistic you’re burying them because there just aren’t any vets trained to treat dinosaurs and know their biology well enough to help them get better.

Indominus Rex

I’d love to start this out by saying not to genetically engineer monsters, but as Doctor Wu points out “nothing in Jurassic World is natural” so instead I’d say pay better fucking attention to what genetics you’re splicing together and listen when your mad scientist tells you you’re going too far. Genuinely, the indominus Rex as is could not be properly enriched. You cannot make the genetic combination you made and successfully stimulate the resulting animal you have to change the dna used.

Sure you could try socializing her with other dinosaurs, but given she ate her twin I don’t think that’s going to go well. Yes, you could also try having her imprint on a human, but that would require a human being to be much closer to her than is safe. The raptors give Owen shit and try to eat him when he saves the boy from them, imagine that but on a massive scale. It’s not pretty. Given her raptor dna I think this is another situation in which the puzzles would be a good idea, but it wouldn’t be enough to make up for poor socialization.

Indoraptor

Don’t fucking make a dinosaur specifically for killing other human beings what the fuck is wrong with you??

But let’s say you did make Indy with the same genetic code. Given the fact our boy Indy is on a much smaller scale, I think socialization could actually work here. The same tactics applied to the raptors would likely work here as well. Let him actually be raised by his mother and don’t abuse him???

Scorpius Rex

No. Unlike the indominus who most likely can’t be enriched or socialized properly, there is no proper way to enrich or socialize this animal. It’s safer and more humane to leave them on the drawing board.

Closing Notes

All of the information here would not actually be accessible until after the parks have been made and subsequently destroyed, but I feel hiring an animal behavioral expert and a proper expert on animal enrichment would lead to much better solutions than canon seemed to have in place. Also I will note that without Scorpius Rex, the indominus Rex and the Indoraptor wouldn’t exist in the first place nor would we have any way to tell in advance that the Scorpius would turn out so unstable so its existence is a bit of an inevitability, and therefore the indominus Rex is also an inevitability as again, they wouldn’t know ahead of time how impossible it would be to socialize and enrich the animal. The events of Jurassic World and Camp Cretaceous occur as in canon. However with the Indoraptor we could take the information we gained from working with the raptors and seeing the indominus in action to properly socialize and enrich it. The events of Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom could potentially be avoided.

Additionally the care for actual dinosaurs would probably be different than these as again Ingen’s genetic engineering made vastly different creatures and I only took proper dinosaur behavior into account where it matched with the behavior of the Jurassic dinosaurs.

I’m literally just some guy with a hyperfixation making some guesses. There’s almost definitely more possibilities for these animals’ mental health that a real professional could list, but these are just my thoughts based on what we see in canon.

[thisisindeedausername]

my favourite part of the earlier camp cretaceous seasons has gotta be Ben suggesting they feed the people to the mosasaurus. kid came back and immediately suggested murder

[stagbeetleboy]

Anyway the reason my long standing obsession with Jurassic park is back bc my niece has taken I liking to dinosaurs and we’ve been watching camp cretaceous.

She just turned two and saying shit like brontosaurus (her favorite) and mosasaurus. Children are insane.

[circusclownsam]

Did anyone else not trust tiff and Mitch the minute they came on screen?

Because I didn’t. And the overuse of the word ‘babe’ rubs me the wrong way.

Also, why couldn’t they just have- dumped the guns into the mosasaurus’ pen? That way the couple wouldn’t have been able to get them without being eaten alive.

dm me privately to do a camp Cretaceous rp.

[swan2swan]

She has never got anything less.

[imthepunchlord]

If you could make a fix it fic, which fandom would you do it? For me, it would be Jurassic, because... there's a lot of "what an idiot" moments on the franchise, same with Star Wars.

Oh gosh, I have a growing list. I can't just stick to one! There's so many I have to ask the writer(s) what are you even doing?

Since you mentioned Jurassic in the ask, I'll keep the focus there, cause I do have issues with the franchise and there are some ideas I could think of to change up the series. Though it would be more directed towards the World films. JP1 and JP2 I can't think of anything I really need to fix, and JP3 only thing I'd have changed is the removal of the dumb dream. That was silly. But the rest of the film I was good with.

Now JW1, which was the best of the World films, at most I'd do minor tweaks. Make the older brother less creepy and stop staring at girls. Remove the mention that the brothers parents are getting a divorce, we don't need that. It's just pointless exposition. I'd also either overhaul Owen's character or replace him. Like, removing the actor from him and viewing him as a character, he's unlikable and just doesn't click with the other lead Claire, cause they're both stiff in different ways, she's controlling and orderly while he's gruff and hostile and it just wasn't pleasant seeing them work off each other. Maybe... given that raptors are social animals, the trainer should be sociable and a little playful, but gets serious as required.

JW2 I'd just overhaul all together, work off the trailers more. Like, at most, I'll give the film that the Indoraptor was hilarious cause that thing thought he was in his own horror film, but for a film that was built up on dinosaurs getting loose, and our era is about to be a "fallen kingdom" and we're truly about to enter Jurassic World; well the movie should've been more about that. And given the opening, maybe it should've been that the Mosasaurus should've been the focal big antagonist of the film. Have Claire spending her life focusing on the dinosaurs and handling the mess of the fallen theme park, being in charge of handling the dinosaurs and overseeing the island. And it's discovered the Mosasaur got out and Claire is to assist in the termination as it's doing a lot of damage in the ocean, and while this sea horror film is going on with the Mosasaur, in the B plot, Biosyn is coming to the island to gather up the dinosaurs, with Dodgson leading the way. Idk how, but the two plots will come together, and because Biosyn is over ambitious, dinosaurs break free are now loose in the United States and is set to some how spread to other parts of the world. And that would be Dominion, full blown dinosaur apocalypse with people trying to survive, and adapt to dinosaurs now being a part of life and can come and go wherever they please, and seeing what changes have to be made and just embrace the horror of this setting. I'd also like the Camp Cretaceous kids make cameos.

Speaking of which, I'd overhaul s4 of Camp Cretaceous too. I'd go that the Mosasaur pushes the campers onto Site B and they got to survive on the new island, and it keeps dinosaurs as the focal threat with our old buddy Spino, we see the rex from JP2 grown up, and of course the raptors. This will also be the season for Sammy to shine a little as Mantah Corp is here to do illegal experimentation, which maybe here is where you get to see the Indoraptor as I cut that out in my idea of JW2. And the guy that blackmailed Sammy's family is here, and she and him are going to have an actual confrontation for what he did to her and her family. I'd also reveal that Mantah Corp picked up on the SOS signal and purposely ignored it. And it could be set up that s4 they were able to get a hold of Mantah Corp's tech and get a message out that Dave and Roxie and Darius' older brother picks up and keep in them coming in to help in s5. Also the scientist they come across in s4, I'd either cut her out entirely as she was kinda pointless, or make her another Mantah Corp operative, not kept in the dark about what they're doing, but she also wasn't here for child murdering, so she helps the kids however she can.

I'd keep in Kenji and Darius making up, but change up the reasoning, instead of Kenji's mad at Darius for endangering his (apparent) crush Brooklyn, he's mad because all the campers are his first time friends, he had lost Ben, he nearly lost Sammy, and so soon Brooklyn is in danger right now and Darius left her in that danger (though she did tell him to leave her). And he was mad at Darius for taking that risk for their friend cause between Sammy and Ben, it really clicked for him how terrifying it is knowing that another is in danger. And I would clarify that Kenji isn't wrong in his feelings, but it is something he needs to get past cause now isn't the time for there to be tension in the group.

Also, if any couple is going to be made official in s4, it's going to be Yaz and Sammy.

As for the matter of PTSD, I'm going to clarify that all the kids have PTSD. I am baffled that s4 claimed that Darius, the 12 yo who had to step up as the leader of these kids, struggling to survive, running from dinosaurs that wanted to kill him, had to deal with bounty hunters that wanted to kill them, and the horror that was the Scorpius Rex; apparently doesn't have PTSD, that he's good. Yeah that can go. That felt like some cheap means to try and separate Darius from the group and help establish Kenji as the new leader; yeah that go out the window. That was irritating.

As for Kenji's dad being in charge of Mantah Corp... I actually still need to watch s5, but I'd lean that he isn't. Like, the man is a VIP at the park, he has his own spot on the park that's isolated and exclusive to him, he has access to hidden routes under the island that can go into any of the exhibits. Why does his company need to hire a teenager to be a spy and gather dna and intel for him???

And for sure, I'd have CC officially end around the time that FK ends, and when Darius sees a dinosaur in his neighborhood, there is horror and dread in his face cause that's not supposed to be here, and that ends with your build up for Dominion, and setting the tone of what's to come.

And so concludes Punchie's ranty rewrite of the Jurassic franchise. I hope you guys like it better than what we got.

[pxrifiedmxniac]

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I'm personally sick of the argument of "the dinosaurs aren't scary anymore" in the Jurassic World movies. For one thing, they can still be scary. Not even taking the hybrids into account, they still can pose a threat like the raptors, the Carnotaurus, T-Rex, Mosasaurus. Hell, even herbivores like Oranosaurus can be threatening. Thing is that it's not just the movies where the dinosaurs are threatening. Battle at Big Rock had the Allosaurus, Camp Cretaceous had the Oranosaurs, Nothosaurus, the Mosasaurus, even the Spinosaurus as well. And I don't even need to see Chaos Theory to know there are quite a few threatening dinos there as well.

And even then, let's not forget that these movies are treating the dinosaurs as what they were in the first place; animals, not monsters. Animals only attack when threatened or hungry or just possibly agitated.

And people like to bring up that it "makes Ian Malcolm wrong". No it doesn't. It's not just all about whether chaos and mayhem happens with these dinosaurs roaming around. It's also a case of we made our bed, so we sleep in it. We grow, learn, adapt, and survive in a world with dinosaurs in the same period as us.

Also if anyone doesn't think the scene in Fallen Kingdom with the Brachiosaurus on the docks was sad as fuck, then we can't be friends. That scene had me tear up in the theaters.

[jurassicparkpodcast]

Setting Sail Into Dangerous Waters with Camp Cretaceous Season Four | Where Will They Go?

At the end of Season Three of Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous, the camp fam set sail into the vast unknown in search of rescue from Isla Nublar and the fallen Jurassic World theme park. With only a compass to lead the way and Kenji at the helm, the six kids set out to rescue themselves with a ship left behind by Season Two's villains, Mitch and Tiff. Nothing yet has been revealed about where these kids will call their next port, but I'm sure they are intent on making it to mainland Costa Rica... but will they actually make it there? There are a lot of variables in the mix, so let's take a look at some of the routes our camp fam may take on the way home.

Costa Rica

Isla Nublar lies 120 miles West of the mainland, so with enough luck and fuel, the kids of Camp Cretaceous certainly hope to make it to Costa Rica. It's their salvation. In the canonical timeline of Jurassic World, the campers set off of Nublar about six months after the events of Jurassic World, which means the hangar at the end of the 2015 film would no longer be ground zero for rescue operations. After six months of no rescue, it seems as though no one is looking for the lost children anymore. Hopefully they can find safety with the authorities or someone that may have heard about the missing kids from the Jurassic World incident. This outcome is their safest sanctuary. It's the ultimate goal.

There is one issue with this goal - what is on the boat? We certainly heard what seems to be a dinosaur within the locked cabin, so our campers could be responsible for a dinosaur loose in Costa Rica. It could make for an interesting tie to the original Jurassic Park novel with loads of reports of small lizards harming people around the coast. Ultimately, would one dino lost on the coast of Costa Rica be all that interesting? Depending on what the dino is, it could be interesting... but I think there are better alternatives.

Back to Nublar

This option is certainly the least interesting of the bunch. With the kids setting out for a hopeful future, having them backtrack to Isla Nublar would be a huge step backwards for the show. We've already spent three seasons trying to escape the island, so setting course for somewhere new is the best option. Of course there are still plenty of unexplored sections of the island, but it feels like it's time for a change of scenery.

The Mosasaurus

At this point in the franchise timeline, the events at the beginning of Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom have occurred, which means that the Mosasaurus has escaped into open water. Our camp fam set out on the open seas, hoping to head to safety, but what if something got in their way? It's highly possibly that along their trip towards the mainland, they encounter the Mosasaurus. This outcome could be utterly dire for our campers, as the Mosasaurus outsizes their yacht and could capsize them in an instant. While nothing too drastic will happen to our core group, I wonder if this encounter sets them off-course... potentially to another island.

Isla Sorna

The campers set sail with hopes of floating eastward towards mainland Costa Rica... but what if they went the wrong way? The Mosasaurus could be the perfect catalyst for them chartering the wrong course, but it's already been hinted at that they could easily lose their way. During Season Three, Kenji couldn’t figure out how to use the compass that they picked up from his dad's penthouse, so who's to say he won't get turned around again. Isla Sorna is one island in the Five Deaths island chain, 87 miles West of Isla Nublar - 207 Miles West of Costa Rica. If they hit Sorna, they are heading in the wrong direction. The wrong direction for the kids, could be the correct direction for the show. Let's consider all Isla Sorna has to offer.

The island originally seen in The Lost World: Jurassic Park and further in Jurassic Park III could be the answer many secrets this franchise holds. It's an island shrouded in mystery and potentially even lies. As we've been told, Isla Sorna is supposedly vacant. The DPG website repeatedly mentions the animals being shipped from Sorna to Nublar to populate Jurassic World as the park was building up operations, but also for the well-being of the creatures on an ever growing mysterious island. Did they move all the animals? That's to be foreseen, but at this point it seems unlikely.

One animal that could still be roaming Isla Sorna is the formidable Spinosaurus. The Spinosaurus could hold the key to the origin of hybrid dinosaur testing, giving the kids something to solve. The Spino's story was unresolved in Jurassic Park III, so it would be welcoming to see what happened after Paul Kirby sent a flare hurdling towards the vicious creature, setting the lagoon ablaze. According to the DPG, the dinosaur could be the reason for decreasing population and well being of other species throughout the island, so is it alone or does it have any island-mates?

There's also the possibility of animals lurking around old research facilities or creating nests near the coast lines - the Velociraptors of Isla Sorna. We have seen three variations of Velociraptor on the island - the male Tiger raptors of The Lost World and the white females and quilled males of Jurassic Park III. It seems doubtful that these variants would have been killed off by the Spinosaurus or shipped to Isla Nublar for the park opening, so the opportunity still exists for the raptors to be alive on the island. It would be wonderful if the campers stumbled upon the answers regarding why there are so many variants of raptor.

One problem with heading to Isla Sorna is how similar it looks to Isla Nublar now. The campers lived for months at their fallen Camp Cretaceous tree house, which was set among Redwood style trees, a look synonymous with Isla Sorna. At this point, how would Dreamworks Animation distinguish these two islands, as to make it seem like they are not just back on Nublar?

Shipmates

Let's further consider the Camp Cretaceous crew's current situation with a stowaway on board. It sounds like a dinosaur locked in the onboard cabin and I've heard speculation on everything from a young Scorpios, to a Troodon, a Baryonyx and Hap, the mercenary from Season two. I do like to consider the dino on board to be a baby Velociraptor bred directly from Velociraptor Blue due to parthenogenesis. It's been alluded to in the Jurassic World Aftermath VR game that Blue may have been able to reproduce asexually, so this could be a fun way to further that concept see in Jurassic Park and in Season Three of Camp Cretaceous with the second Scorpios Rex. Anyway, that's all besides the point, because a dinosaur is on this boat and it will have consequences.

Does the dinosaur on board force them to turn back to Nublar? Will it sidetrack them to a different island? Does it somehow signal the Mosasaurus toward their yacht? Will this dino cause mischief on the mainland? Pretty much all options are on the table when you have a dinosaur on board, but ultimately I hope it becomes the next Bumpy. Season three seemingly gave us a send-off for our favorite young Ankylosaurus (until the future, we hope), so we could use another fun dino side-kick. If it's a sweet young dinosaur, then maybe our camper friends won't get too sidetracked, but will still need to deal with the consequences once their arrive at their final destination.

Mantah Corp

Our final option sends the campers directly into the hands of the enemy. Mantah Corp have been on the peripherals of the Camp Cretaceous story from the beginning. We've seen their drone pop up in season one and in season three, plus we've heard their stories and connections. So when do we actually see Mantah Corp play a larger role? From what has been relayed within the series, it sounds like Mantah Corp has been in the shadows from the very beginning - even before Jurassic Park. Mantah Corp has wanted dinosaurs since before Wu made the first cloned creature, so we know they are dead-set on getting the DNA or better yet, some dinosaurs themselves.

From the previously outlined concepts, there could be a few results here for Mantah Corp. If our camp fam does encounter a Mosasaurus in the ocean and needs rescue, who better than Mantah Corp? There's also the chance of Mantah Corp setting up shop at a nearby island - Isla Sorna anyone? The team from Mantah Corp has to be close to Nublar, as they sent drones on recon missions to grab data and spy on the dinosaur activity. Sorna would give them a great base of operations. Let's say that Mantah Corp doesn't have the means currently to transport big dinosaurs off the islands, but they could have the capability of smuggling something small, a baby perhaps? I think Mantah Corp has to play a big role in Season four and I'd love to see it all play out on Isla Sorna.

What do you think? Are there any other alternatives that interest you? The kids from Camp Cretaceous certainly will have an adventure ahead of them in Season Four and I can't wait to see how it all plays out. I'd love to hear from you in the comments below.

Written by: Brad Jost

[bs-fangirl]

Darius on the boat with the other campers pulling away from Isla Nublar: We finally made it off the island.

Mosasaurus lurking in the waters beneath them:

[soybeenss]

Not sure what this “time management” thing is but here’s the Jurassic World dudes playing a game of monopoly