#c zam

[scarletiswailing347]

some lifestealers designs pt 2 + a once again redesigned zam cause i wanted the yellow guy to be more yellow

[citrusinicake]

decided i wanna change the we were devils au from a drama tragedy to a dark comedy so heres a silly homicidal zam lol

[freakinator]

thinking about kab and the thing about her i think is she knows just enough to keep herself safe Generally but not enough to really predict what would happen should something more... complicated??? unforeseen??? idk whats the right word to use but something not covered by someones reputation and/or vids happen, believe it or not this also affects her view of clownpierce (we'll get to that)

for example, mapicc has a reputation for being an violent, angry, & impulsive guy and nothing else which makes sense but is incredibly surface level and something that only really works if you dont have a lot of experience working with him

another is reddoons, his betrayal after the base incident while shocking is not unforeseen but his reputation as being a guy whos seen as being a reasonable person whos fairly loyal to his team made it seem like something he wouldnt do even tho it absolutely is

regarding how it affects her view of clown, since he isnt perfectly aligned with his reputation she instead pivots in the complete opposite direction and forgiving basically every crime he does even tho hes something much more mild and complicated than either his reputation or her view of him will ever be (think madonna-whore complex which is especially obvious when it comes to kabs vs woogies view of him)

another side effect of this Just Enough amount of knowledge aside from being blinded by her own expectations is that it frustrates ppl who think shes oversimplificating things (like me and seemingly several other tumblr users as well) especially when she claims that shes objectively correct and the smartest in the room at any given moment

how this roughness in her analysis affects her in the server still has yet to be fully seen but we do still have at least a couple months until the end but 'til then shes just gonna keep stumbling as more and more complicated situations pop up as is typical in lifesteal to happen and eventually shes gonna have to learn to adapt or else she'll be suffering the consequences one way or another

[mizzzero]

trying to figure out how to draw c!zam

+ bonus drawing

[cassiopeacollective]

"what's wrong with you?"

I relate to these characters

[derww]

"sometimes i just really wanna kiss boys and i dont know what to do with it" sooooo its a gay dot com special okay

[nicofan57]

i wanted to talk about this clip so here’s my thoughts on it and the entire situation from yesterday (rest is under the cut)

(transcript:

minute: oh but why wemmbu, why, we- clown you and i were against him before, why-

clown: i didn’t like it either, okay, let me- you know why-

minute: ill tell you better- ill tell you better than anyone he’s just gonna use you and spit you out whenever it’s convenient. or whenever you’re no longer convenient for him. i know it better than anyone!

clown: i think we can handle wemmbu.

minute: he can't die!

clown: oh but he could drop- (?)

minute: he's just gonna sit tens of thousands of blocks out and wait for everyone to kill each other until he's the last one. i know this better than anyone! why didn't you talk to me?)

so first let’s dissect this clip. minute saying "i know this better than anyone" brings me back to kings s1 . they worked together to take down the other team that had the mythics and when wemmbu finally got a hold of the lifestealer (i can’t remember the exact details.. time for a rewatch) he threw minute out, saying there could only be one king. which sucks more when you think about at the start of the server, minute was open to teaming with wemmbu because he genuinely thought they were friends like he was not seeing that coming. someone warned him wemmbu is not trustworthy and he went “wemmbus my boy he wouldnt do that" (or something along those lines). and it’s like. well he did end up doing that. and minute realized he was being used all along.

fast forward to foundation when wemmbu literally said something along the lines of (again, sorry this might not be accurate) he’d team with minute because

- minute is powerful

- he has gear sets

- he would give him stuff

and most of all because he’s too kind for his own good. he wants peace even with his enemies, which we all know from the current arc right now. and wemmbu knows that all too well he knows he wouldnt refuse siding with him even considering their history on kings. anyway we all know how the abyss arc turned out for them with the orbital

so here is this clip i posted a while ago (linked here, because i cant put more than one video in a post apparently) where minute talks about how wemmbu's betrayed him a million times and how he says it hurts but he moves past it (this guy....) well clearly he’s not going to move past it now. because behind his back wemmbu has been working with zam, the person trying to break him mentally, and wemmbu’s stolen his position of power and is going to undo everything he’s worked towards. and the worst part about it is that he even convinced minutes teammates from day one to vote for him.

it’s pretty clear that wemmbu knows minute more and is able to get to him better than zam, he knows how to get into his head, he knows what actually fucks minute up, and no offense to zam because zam did end up winning… he achieved his goal by employing wemmbu! but i noticed minute isnt worried about zam that much anymore, or any of the players at all. it’s wemmbu because he knows what wemmbu can do and he knows how fucked up the server is going to be under his presidency. worst of all he knows what’s going to happen to his friends, he’s been in their shoes before, he knows they’re going to be left for dead when all is said and done, and even though they betrayed him and voted for wemmbu he still wants to save them because he knows it all too well (i think he also did say this). he still has some good left in him, even after the betrayal.

though the players are using wemmbu's presidency term to get what they want, it’s always going to end up being minute against wemmbu, it’s a cycle that ive noticed keeps repeating lately . thank you all forcoming to my ted talk

(p.s. i copied and pasted this from my twitter thread sorry if theres any weird formatting. or typos. or bad english pleabse be nice to me smiles)

[spacewaffling]

It's crazyyyyyyy how flame went from initially saying sorry (in the background u might not hear bc other ppl were talking) right after telling zam he was going to grief spawn to then blame zam for the recent increase of pacifist members like it was his fault ?!??? And killing zam 3 times......

[subzperiodcramps]

i dont like c!zam

[zylian]

Genuinely what “in lore” option was Zam able to do that wasn’t “logging” off and having such a bitter ending. That guy refused to leave on such bad terms after he thought Spoke betrayed that even when Mapicc told him to log off to not give him the satisfaction he said no

So to a person who won’t log off, what could he have done.

I feel like he knew that the control room wouldn’t be able to save such a messed up world. He knew Spoke wouldn’t do that so in the end it would just crumble regardless.

Zam was told to his face that if he banned himself he would of been brought back and that there were prevention methods to stopping him from killing himself. Literally was given god stuff and got them taken away instantly.

He knew where he stood, he couldn’t have any hope left after confirming he himself had no power without Spoke. Like he was told and saw every counter reason to anything he could have done.

Zam had nothing

Now imagine if he knew Ash or Vitalasy had op cause one of them had to have had op so long ago and just hid it as well

So if Zam knew that and if he didn’t go to Spoke first he would of totally still had hope.

It’s crazy how much power Vitalasy refused to use against Spoke despite hating him

In lore terms they totally would of had a chance if certain players wanted to but behind the scenes Vitalasy already agreed to not intervene so genuinely wtf were they supposed to do

I hate behind the scenes agreements, they kill the lore of it causes players to negate any reasoning for their actions

Man even Zam thought Vitalasy and Spoke were faking their hatred for each other but when it was genuine it made no sense. Wtf happened and even after he tried he gets ridiculed for it like damn

[your-secondborn-child]

i haven't watched the vitalasy stream yet but rest assured i am going insane about the bedrock prison

[scarletiswailing347]

so eclipse fed dynamic in this au is basically vi dragged along subz his former conmate in order to find the legendary lifesteal heart sovi can become nigh immortal (vi offered to share but subz doesnt wanna live forever)

eventually they come across the notorious prince turned rebel turned pirate zam who was looking for his missing bestie pangi who just straight up disappeared one day (they were voyaging in the open ocean when suddenly nobody on the crew could find him after he went to get something from the poopdeck when he was literally just eating dinner with them five mins ago)

when they first come across him he had a whole crew (team awesome + some unimportant bg chars) who decided to kidnap them cause of vis knowledge about powerful artifacts that the captain ro has been looking for for ages

originally ro was planning to keep them prisoners until they find what theyre looking for but vi let slip some info that zam thought would be helpful in finding pangi so he freed the two of them in the middle of the night

they almost managed to escape undetected but then mapicc felt restless that night and couldnt sleep so he went outside and found the three of them in the middle of untying a rowboat and then he tried to kill them

zam sustained heavy injury during the fight so subz and vi took care of him as best as they can while travelling

in this moment in specific, zam is disguised as a princess but blew his cover when he stabbed mapicc

[coedotcom]

homestuck music in squiddo videos is always such a welcome surprise

[sinoptics]

[paper-rips]

i will never be a c!Spoke apologist. your honour he did do that. your honour he did kill all those people. guilty as charged. should probably most certainly have at least fourty-two life sentences. but also like. it was iconic. yeah. those illegal weapons? those are his. yes i know he killed those people for funsies. your honour he may also have a god complex but like. i mean. look at him ?? obviously a fucker with that much power's gonna have a god complex. does that justify it or anything he's done? no. do i care? no. ily Spoke🫶🫶

anyways have s4!Spoke and Zam during that one conversation in the "i built the overworld in the end" video

[eternalera]

whenever i look at zam and wemmbu i just see zam as

:)

and wembbu as

c: