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"He's not the person he once was. You shouldn't associate yourself with him, Jean."
Kevin's voice was a far cry tucked deep within the crevasses of Jean's mind; a forgotten aria that's been drowned out by the symphony of the man that stood across Jean. His blue eyes shone sinfully against the light of the full moon, beckoning Jean over like a moth to a flame.
The man went by many names: Wesninski Scum, The Devil's Inexorable Soldier, The Butcher's Son, but Jean's favourite would always be the puerile moniker he had given him as children.
"Nat," Jean called out. His fingers trembled as he reached out. His shirt was bloodied with the viscera of the victim that laid unmoving on the ground. He resisted the urge to lurch when Nathaniel turned to him, hands horrifyingly bloody yet his eyes as innocuous as the day Jean had first met him.
Nathaniel took a step forward, and Jean took a step back. They continued this push and pull until Jean's back gently touched the wall.
"You're scared of me," Nathaniel mused. He wiped the dripping blood off his eyebrows with the back of his bloodied hand - he furrowed his eyebrows in frustration when it only left a larger smudge of blood on his eyelids.
It was absurd. This was Nat. This was the boy that Jean had grown up with in Evermore, his partner that promised him unattainable fantasies in the quiet of the night when the king snored in his slumber. The man that had been taken away from Jean and torn away a part of his soul, forever lost in Nathaniel's essence. He had suffered his father's wrath and emerged victorious; thus, earning him a righteous spot beside the new heir of the Moriyamas.
Nevertheless, he came back to Jean. He could've had anything he wanted; money, power, fame, yet he chose to free Jean from the unruly clutches of Evermore. Demanded Ichirou with a ferocious glint in his eyes to secure Jean's safety as his muse.
So what if his hands were bloodied beyond salvation? He was the only one who ever reached out to Jean, albeit staining both their hands with the murky colour of sacrilege. There was no God in this world, only Nathaniel and Jean.
Jean reached and pulled Nathaniel's hands towards him, rendering the boy surprised at his abruptness. Jean circled the brunettes hands across his own waist and felt his heart convulse with rapture as Nathaniel squeezed taxingly on sanctioning flesh.
His arms snaked around Nathaniel's neck and surged the boy forward, resting his lips on top of Jean's. He kissed Neil as if he were the medicine to his reoccurring ailment of loneliness. They never kissed gently. How was a dog who was beaten all its life ever supposed to be benign?
Soft nudges were replaced by bruising biting that had Jean gasping into Nathaniel's mouth. Insistence and desperation overtook both of them as Nathaniel pushed him harder against the wall; his hand hiking up ever so slightly Jean's torso. The tugging of Nathaniel's hair rewarded Jean with an even more fervorous kiss that eroded Jean to a plate of needy whimpers and pants for Nathaniel to devour.
"Scared? Of you Nat?" Jean whined mutedly as Nathaniel's hands toyed with the hem of his pants, "Never."
Jean willed his tremors of fear to stop because this was Nat for heavens sake; but when he saw an unfamiliar glint of bloodlust spark in Nathaniel's eyes - he couldn't help but feel his heart stutter in terror.
#aftg#jean moreau#neil josten#jeaneil#nathaniel wesninski#butcher! neil#lol i should study#why do i always write kisses as filthy#what happeend to the fluff#i changed it abit because i wanted jean to still be fearful
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One thing I love about Neil is that as much as he's good at pissing people off, he's also uncannily good at getting a lot of those same people to be on his side and even unite behind him. Whether it's through manipulation, cleverly persuading them or just genuinely inspiring them to follow his lead, the guy has a weird knack for getting people to do what he wants.
#and whats so interesting about how he approaches it is that he (generally) doesnt use threats or violence as a tactic#like yeah he'll put out a hit on someone if they've truly wronged him and his people#and yeah he'll pick fights he cant win#but if he wants someone to do something? or wants them to agree with him? he doesnt employ violence for that#because thats what the butcher would do#and for all that neil believes he looks like his father#he isnt the butcher#and never will be#aftg#all for the game#the foxhole court#neil josten
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hey everyone
i'd just like to urge you to spread the word about dead boy detectives since netflix is known for cancelling shows after only one season due to lower numbers... i fell in love with this show and that's something that has never happened to me this quickly and this instantly as i'm sure most of you feel the same... rewatch, leave it playing in the background do what you can and let's get a s2 and hopefully even more seasons 🫶🏻
#dead boy detectives#dead boy detective agency#dbd#edwin paine#charles rowland#niko sasaki#crystal palace#jenny the butcher#painland#payneland#charles x edwin#cat king#catwin#cat king x edwin#monty dbd#monty x edwin#neil gaiman
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the fact that kevin day also witnessed a man being chopped up in the tower at evermore after neil’s audition is mad, and it’s something that is very much not addressed ever. like, maybe part of kevin was so accepting of how things were in the nest because he knew that this is the second branch, and if he were to leave, he’d become the main branch’s problem because he knows too much, and the main branch casually chops men up as a warning to literal children. and then he’s still called a coward for leaving ?? but also a coward for wanting to go back to make the inevitable less painful for him ??? and that’s not even considering what riko and tetusji did to him specifically, before even jean arrived at the nest. and his mother’s death would’ve been quite recent at that point. just insane.
#like i’m pretty sure the man being chopped up was the final straw for mary to take neil and run#and kevin saw that and wasn’t allowed to leave#so he accepted that maybe where he is is the better of two options and decided it’s okay because at least he gets to play exy#so exy became his only escape because if he was so scared that if he were to leave the nest he’d be the next one given to the butcher#it’s not until he doesn’t have exy anymore cause riko took it from him that he leaves#god i have so many thoughts but i am going to stop now#aftg#all for the game#kevin day#neil josten#so you’ll believe that neil was scared of nathan for a good reason but won’t believe kevin was scared of riko for good reason#(i said i’d stop but i did not)#and tetsuji#like even in tsc kevin is still calling tetsuji the master without hesitation
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Thinking about wymack trying to break the news to the rookie kid about their problems with the japanese mafia without scaring him off the team only for the rookie kid to have his very own ties to a different but related gang is too fucking funny to me
#wymack: okay kid I’m gonna be straight with you and I need you to not freak out about it. *deep breath* okay here goes#wymack: the moriyamas are yakuza and the ravens are moving into our district to get kevin to come back to the nest#neil son of the baltimore butcher: hmm. I see#neil in his head: if my mother weren’t already burnt to a crisp underneath a california beach she’d beat my fucking ass rn#wymack during the binghampton riot when kevin reveals neil’s true identity: hmm. I see#wymack in his head: so that’s why he reacted like that#neil josten#david wymack#aftg#tfc
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"However," Ichirou said, "you are your father's son, and your father was someone to me. He is the reason I came down here myself"
"Your lack of survival instincts is supremely distressing," Riko said. "Take that look off your face before I carve it off." Neil hadn't realized he was smiling too, a cruel look he'd inherited from his father. Neil lowered his cup so Riko could get a better look at it. "I would love to see you try. You think I'm afraid of your knife? I'm the Butcher's son."
"Ichirou's smile was cold and fleeting. "Let them call you by whatever name they like. You will always be a Wesninski at heart."
I think deep down both Moriyama boys were lowkey Butcher fanboys, they bring him up alot and yes they say that he was a mere servant and yet they kind of make a big deal of Neil being his son. I think it's why Riko was so desperate to keep Nathaniel (even though he was still a rookie and at that point only had potential) to the point of getting distracted from Kevin. If the Moriyamas practiced herititary titles for their henchmen then Neil would have been the Butcher for whomever the heir was and I think Riko would have seen possession of Nathaniel as a sort of indirect acknowledgement from his dad. Ichirou was happy to smugly steal Neil right from under his stupid younger brother.
Neil was like the toy dad promised them both and that they were both fighting over.
Ichirou did not have to have Neil come up and watch him shoot his brother. I think he was gloating a little.
#aftg#all for the game#neil josten#the sunshine court#tsc#tfc#tkm#trk#the foxhole court#the kings men#the raven king#ichirou moriyama#riko moriyama#nathaniel wesninski#Ichirou even giving neil the chance to become his feels like having the butchers boy reenforces his claim to his fathers role#maybe to some in the criminal world it does#who knows
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I'm not even gonna write an essay on this one, I'm tired and it's rapidly approaching the witching hour so imma just-
Neil is constantly shadow boxing with his fear of being Just Like My Father NOT because he fears that Wesninski Blood but because he fears the fragility of choice. Everything he knows how to do, all of his skills, combined with his natural disposition and temperament really do put him on par with his father - potentially even worse than his father if you think Nathan lacks Neil's ability to meticulously execute a long con.
Ruthless. Manipulative. Intelligent. Sneaky n Stealthy. Fast. Quick learner. Violent. Cut throat. Selective empathy. Observant. Skilled with weapons. Crime prodigy. Improv. Etc etc etc - Nathaniel truly is Nathan's son when you look at Capacity. Neil had very good reason to fear that - he really is a Wesninski in more than just name.
He just chooses to be kind. Chooses to care. Chooses Exy and friends and family and Andrew and Love.
But choices are both iron clad foundations and flimsy whisps in the wind
Neil isn't different from his father because of difference in Capacity. Neil is different from his father because of difference in Choices. And "Is that enough?" is such a scary question when it suddenly involves people he dared to care about.
#the nature of humanity relying on the capacity for monstrosity and the moment by moment decision to choose otherwise#and the life long responsibility to not grow complacent in that option select#yadda yadda humanity as a commitment to not take for granted as a given or whatever#there's an essay there that I don't feel like writing#but I know Neil is a great poster child for it#also#Nathan is a Butcher#and Nathaniel is a Surgeon#that's why it was in everyone's best interest#that Neil was able to choose Love and Exy#Criminal Neil would have been the bane of everyone's existence#ichiro: Someone Put This Child Under My Pay Role And Out Of My Hair Or Else#He's Gonna Fuck Up My Business Otherwise#Neil: Buy My Silence With An Exy Career And One (1) Boyfriend#ichiro: Fine#all for the game#neil josten
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Dead Boy Detectives Cast and Creators Reveal Secrets and Easter Eggs | N...
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For anyone who wasn't able to attend the DBD screening last week, or those who just want to watch it again! 💖
#dead boy detective agency#dead boy detective spoilers#dead boy detectives#charles rowland#edwin payne#crystal palace#niko sasaki#esther the witch#night nurse#neil gaiman#beth schwartz#steve yockey#jenny the butcher#how could I forget jenny!#Youtube
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My Personal Favorite Fics EVER!! All Neil/Andrew
I hope I am doing this right! I just hit the share button on my bookmarked fics. Idk if any of these have been on here before (I have read a lot of fics and it gets confusing to know which ones I found on here bc there are so many good recommendations, or ones I found on my own. But these are 3 of my favorite fics that I feel like are the most well done!
• Everything's Alright by DarkD: This fic is unfinished but so worth the read!! It is a soulmates au, and in it Neil and Andrew are looking out for eachother since they are 6 and 7 years old. It completely changes their dynamic but manages to keep the characters realistic. I love the direction it was going, I hope the author finishes it, but even if they don’t what they have written so far is worth the read.
• If I Knew You by AceSirenSinger: This fic is soooo amazing!! It was posed pretty recently (starting January 2024 and finishing in May) and It shows a different direction with Aaron and Andrew’s bonding, and different reasons for them having problems with each other. It features writer/author Andrew and Law Student turned police officer Aaron. The writing is so high quality and it is a completely finished fic!! The writing to show the writing of the book Andrew has written alone is impressive enough to get you to read it. I love it so much, it also gives a more realistic approach to Neil’s life and trauma as well as gives you more of a perspective on the problems of Aaron’s life. (Even tho it’s an au and doesn’t show his life during AFTG)
• Deep blue ( but you painted me golden ) by Jeaneil_22: This fic is not finished but completely captivated my attention when I saw it. I was surprised I had not read it before (because I am obsessed with Raven Neil fics, and this is one of them) but then I realized it was posted within the last year or so. It’s completely underrated. It does have a lot of hits but the kudos count not being in the thousands is a crime against humanity. The realistic take on. Neil’s trauma and different things going on as he is still connected very heavily to the Moriyama’s is sooo interesting. And if you are looking for a fic where Neil is a victim of SA/Rape this fic is also a good one for you. (Though it does have a lot of trauma so mind the tags) I know a lot of people are looking for fics like that tho and it’s hard to find bc there is so much SA trauma in AFTG 😔
Thanks for the recs and for sharing your thoughts on the fics! Readers, all of these stories lean toward the darkest themes of AFTG. -A
Everything's Alright by DarkD [Rated E, 182901 Words, Incomplete, Updated June 2023]
Previously recced here
Souls weren't meant to be left alone, so they split, always looking for their other half. No matter how long it took, the moment a soul existed, it sought the one that would complete it. The main indication is, when one of the halves of the soul turns seven years old, an identical mark appears on both parts. Along with that comes a set of unique abilities that soulmates can only use with each other—for protection, for finding each other. Soulmates would never be alone.
tw: graphic depictions of violence, tw: child abuse, tw: torture, tw: blood, tw: gun violence, tw: homophobia, tw: implied/referenced rape/noncon, tw: implied/referenced csa, tw: murder, tw: canonical character death
If I Knew You by AceSirenSinger [Rated T, 43145 Words, Complete, 2024]
Previously featured in this long andreil + aaron angst ask, our staff recs writers post, and as a random rec
Neil is imprisoned at sixteen years old for being the Butcher of Baltimore. Andrew obsesses, and Aaron obsesses because Andrew does, and everything goes wrong and raw and painful. Feat. the twinyards breaking each other’s hearts, and a decent amount of shade on the American justice system.
tw: implied/referenced murder, tw: recreational drug use, tw: implied/referenced violence, tw: implied/referenced torture
Deep blue ( but you painted me golden ) by Jeaneil_22 [Rated M, 163298 Words, Incomplete, Updated Sept 2024]
After the horrific incident that happened in the nest and the sound of Kevin crying, Nathaneil made the hard call and bargained with his life to get Jean and Kevin out, having no slight idea about the storm that was heading his way And after being missing for two years, Jean and Kevin swallowed the hard truth that Nathaneil might be dead somewhere To their surprise one day he appears out of the blue looking so much like their brother but nothing like Nathaneil at all Or Nathniel went on the run with his mother when he was 9 years old but three years later Nathan caught up to them and threw Nathaneil in the nest So we can say some things went a bit different .
NB: playlist for this fic
tw: dark, tw: gang rape, tw: dubcon, tw: human trafficking, tw: graphic depictions of violence, tw: suicidal thoughts, tw: assault, tw: flashbacks, tw: panic attacks, tw: implied/referenced child abuse, tw: abuse and torture, tw: implied/referenced csa, tw: medication addiction and withdrawal, tw: recreational drug use, tw: nonconsensual drug use, tw: vomit, tw: homophobia, tw: canonical character death
#rec#reader submission#neil josten/andrew minyard#neil josten & riko moriyama#neil josten & ichirou moriyama#stuart hatford & neil josten#kevin day & neil josten & jean moreau#au: soulmates#au: raven!neil#au: butcher!neil#theme: angst#theme: angst with a happy ending#theme: dark#theme: the mafia#theme: the nest#theme: injuries#theme: roofied#theme: protectiveness#theme: found families#tw: dark#tw: graphic depictions of violence#tw: rape#tw: dubcon#tw: child abuse#tw: torture#tw: gun violence#tw: homophobia#tw: sucidal thoughts
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I am watching dead boy detectives on repeat since it premiered.
And after watching it for hours.. every time Netflix is interrupting and asking me if I am still watching dead boy detectives ..
YES @netflix I am still watching until you announce season 2 (preferably season 3 & 4 on top. 💁🏼♀️)
#charles x edwin#payneland#chedwin#dead boy detectives#obsessed with this show#netflix#need more seasons asap#charles rowland#edwin payne#niko sasaki#crystal palace#jenny the butcher#the cat king#favorite show#steve yockey#george rexstrew#jayden revri#kassius nelson#yuyu kitamura#tv shows#neil gaiman#renew dead boy detectives#give us more seasons asap#sandman universe#sandman
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Wise words of Jenny
His smile at the end, he knows he's funny
Niko my queen
Mmmmmmmmm
<3
Some of my favourite scenes from S01E04 of Dead Boy Detectives "The Case of the Lighthouse Leapers" Part 1
#dead boy detectives#dead boy detectives spoilers#Edwin payne#niko sasaki#crystal palace#charles rowland#neil gaiman#sandman#the sandman universe#jenny the butcher#tragic mick#i will#remember to change dialogue colours next time
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#dead boy detectives#neil gaiman#the sandman#edwin payne#edwin dead boy detectives#charles rowland#edwin paine#painland#paynland#niko sasaki#crystal palace#monty the crow#esther finch#cat king#the cat king#jenny green#jenny the butcher#george rexstrew#jayden revri#kassius nelson#yuyu kitamura#joshua colley#steve yockey#lukas gage
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happy pride month! if your looking for a show to watch this pride month watch “dead boy detectives” on netflix!
this show has found family, supernatural mysteries, queer main characters (more to come if the show get’s renewed! hint hint watch it please) good storylines, campy villans , action , drama , lovable characters , ghosts , mysteries , great neurodivergent representation , angst and soulmates who’d sacrifice afterlives and walk through hell to be together. 👻🔎
you'll love this show i promise you! please watch (i might k** if this show get's cancelled so please watch im begging) 😹🙏🏾
#dead boy detective agency#dead boy detective netflix#dead boy detectives#dead boy detective fanart#the sandman#neil gaiman#supernatural#good omens#shadow and bone#charles rowland#crystal palace#edwin paine#edwin payne#esther finch#monty the crow#jenny the butcher#netflix#pride month#pride#lgbtqplus#lgbtqia#queer#sapphic#nikocrystal#niko sasaki#painland#gay#bisexual#interview with the vampire#lesbian
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he will never ever ever admit it out loud but sometimes neil feels a sort-of sadness/regret/nostalgia about who he could've been if he'd grown up in the ravens/in his father's business. when he disregards his abuse, and the way his parents treated him, he dreams about it a lot. he blames his mother sometimes because yes, sure, he would be in a dangerous business, but it was secure insofar as his father was trusted and reputable. mary caused so much added fear and paranoia and danger for neil by running. it was his father's business, one he was very good at. it was the purpose laid out for nathaniel from birth.
if neil had always been his fathers apprentice, if he’d been perfect court from the start, how much better of a player would he be, having been a raven? what kind of a person would he be? would he have turned into someone like riko, or someone like kevin? could he have stopped riko from breaking kevins hand? could he have saved jean from his abuse, or would he have been apart of it? that's the part that's difficult - if he'd grown up in his father's world, he would've grown up into his father. and neil does not like that side of himself. he does not like that he has the capacity for evil. he's scared of what he is capable of, sometimes, remembering what he inherited from his dad. so would he like to say he would've been different, that he wouldn't've participated in rikos bullshit? yes. can he? no. because he does not know what kind of a person he would've become if he'd grown up under his fathers wing. he's glad that didn't happen, of course, but he does still feel something everytime he thinks about how things would've worked out if he'd followed the path his father intended to put him on.
#it’s a naive thought really#forgetting how his father actually treated him and forgetting why his mom wanted to protect him so badly#he sees his father in himself every time he gets angry#every time he thinks of harming someone#neil hates how his genetics have spoiled his nature#but every once in a while he wonders what it would have been like if he’d stayed#if he’d fulfilled the prophecy#if he had always only been the butchers son#Nathaniel Wesninski Ravens Backliner number three#he can say out loud that he wonders about that life#but he can’t say out loud that sometimes he wonders what it would be like to have had the chance#to become the son he was destined to be#to become a killer#to take over the empire and become his father#he can’t say out loud that sometimes he feels sad that things happened the way they did#angry that his mom ruined his opportunities to be a Wesninski by name AND by trade#neil josten#just a thought#aftg#all for the game#mine
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i could go mad trying to piece together my thoughts on how crucial it is that Nathan Wesninski's specialty is the Butcher. the images. the symbols. the heritage. the violence. the Modern American Gothic of it all—paired with the Edgar Allan Ravens.
he’s not a strangler. he’s not a stabber. not a poisoner. he doesn’t shoot people. he doesn’t wield a chainsaw.
he’s got a meat cleaver. a fully stocked arsenal knives to cut and skin people and animals alike. his specialty requires time, patience, precision, but remains deadly and violent af nonetheless. it’s chilling.
think of the buckets of blood. the bits and pieces. the sounds. the mess. the smell. the stickiness.
the world is his livestock; Mary his prize cattle; Nathaniel his legacy that’ll only escape the slaughter if he butchers others first, if he learns and wins the pig show.
#brought to you by Survey of American Lit#thanks professor#genuinely#aftg#all for the game#the foxhole court#neil josten#nathaniel wesninski#nathan wesninski#mary hatford#butcher of baltimore
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made some dead boy detectives fake tweets bc i can’t stop thinking about them
#dead boy detectives#charles rowland#edwin payne#edwin paine#painland#dead boy detective agency#crystal palace#niko sasaki#jenny the butcher#the sandman#neil gaiman#port townsend#the cat king#fake tweets#are so fucking funny
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