#but with meng yao EVERYTHING is calculated and so i get to show him doing the calculations as i do them
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It's very funny to write nieyao with both their povs cause i'm looking at the scenes from meng yao's pov and they're all 4 times as long??? The povs are meant to be split equally but like 70% of the whole thing ends up being his inner monologue. This man thinks So Much.
#nmj's scenes: straightforward. acfion-focused. can achieve emotional turmoil in just 4 words#jgy's scenes: alright everyone welcome to my dissertation first i will discuss my methodology-#it's actually not that hard to write on account of my brain also being Like This#honestly kinda fun to actually be able to write down all the complicated thinking i myself am doing on why they'd act in a certain way#that i usually can't make any mention of because to the character it comes naturally#but with meng yao EVERYTHING is calculated and so i get to show him doing the calculations as i do them#fic writing#my writing#btw surprise this is that 4k word document i was talking about earlier#it is now longer than that
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Does it feel like they're trying to redeem the dickless bore? idk if he's doing a con on her or they're showing he has real feelings for her wasn't the novel different?
One thing I'm really noticing in the Princess Royal (Grand Princess) adaption is that they will 'play it straight' with characters like Su Rongqing and the Emperor: giving the character similar dialogue and facial expressions as they would have in the novel -- except without PWX or LR's internal dialogue of 🙄 why u lying???
🙄 lol ok sure
😒 oh i see, back on your bullshit again
😤 the AUDACITY
😬 oh shit oh shit danger BE COOL
The consequence is that if you take everything at face value, the Emperor seems like a reasonable guy and not up for The Absolute Worst Dad award. Under the surface, the novel reader knows he is acting out a play and coldly calculating every interaction with Li Rong, the Crown Prince, and Consort Ruo. Every single scene with him, Li Rong is in peril and she knows it. She's pretending to be his sweet, obedient 19 year old daughter who believes in him and is following Pei Wenxuan's direction and acting as a puppet, making moves that he has already approved PWX to make. The Emperor's pretending that this play isn't supposed to end with LR and the Crown Prince taken down & the power transferred into Consort Ruo and the other prince's hands.
The viewer can just interpret all the words coming out of a character's mouth as facts & just believe everything they claim about their motives/real agenda as true. Or they recall the implied horrorshow of Life 1 and view all of these interactions with a cynical eye, questioning what else could be under the surface.
With SRQ, that guy is so fucking complicated. I think actually he's portrayed in character. Nothing we have seen isn't .... him. At least so far, as of ep 19 he aligns with the novel.
But 3 different factors: A) The music is romantizing him; B) The audience is given a couple internal-thought voice overs from him, which other antagonists don't get; C) With those voice-overs, the screenwriter has chosen to affirm his love for his brother and LR way earlier than the reader has it confirmed in the novel (where he is intentionally kept a total mystery for far longer, while the reader is the math lady meme, trying to piece together clues to figure him out).
And ultimately, when in SRQ's PoV in the drama, we have to deal with him being the hero of his own story. He is absolutely sincere about himself and, as has been revealed, in his own way he's sincere about wanting LR and his brother to have a good life this time around.
So does that mean the writer intends to do a swerve in the narrative arc and redeem him in the end? It's totally possible. Maybe?
However, not necessarily.
#1 There is a certain refrain from many of the great cnovel/drama villians: I had no choice! You all forced me to this!
We saw it from Shen Yurong in The Double, we saw it from Meng Yao/JGY in The Untamed, and in the novel (and I presume in the drama), we're gonna see it from Su Rongqing.
And it's the reason why they become villians who can't be saved. Because so many people suffer in life or experience unfairness. But they don't turn around and use this as an excuse to enact horrible cruelties on others.
Out of the billions of people in the world, few have no problems but so many of them actively chose to do good, or are willing at least to turn back and be better.
#2 imo the reason LR has historically been bad at reading people's hearts but has an exquisite read of SRQ, his flaws & darkness, is THAT'S HER FUCKING MOM. And I do think ep 16-18 put that out there in the text, if you're looking for it. He and the empress are the same sophisticated aristocrat who is clever & educated but with a narrow perspective limited by their privilege and desperate need to maintain the status quo. So sorry bro, but no wonder she might have settled for marrying you in the first life if you wanted to, but she was never gonna fall in love with you 💀.
PWX can see that SRQ loves her and he thinks that matters, so it scares him. LR has tender nostalgia for her empress mother and her former companion but she's all too aware that their love for her will not necessarily get in the way of stepping on her to protect the social structure of a powerful aristocracy class operating at a higher level above the peasants and restraining the throne. To them, this is safety and stability that guards the realm.
(ofc both those characters are complex and when it comes to LR's life & death we can't be confident on what they will always choose. that's part of what made all the palace drama aspects of the novel incredibly suspenseful. So many of the suppporting characters are layered and tho everything they do makes sense when it happens, you can't often predict people's hard choices when their back is up against the wall)
Story of Kunning Palace and The Grand Princess say that caring about people and trying your best to understand them, wanting what's best for them by listening to what's best for them, can make a huge difference. But not everyone is willing to change.
#silvia answers asks#cdrama#the grand princess#the princess royal#the princess royal spoilers#one of the fascinating aspects of the grand princess was#is that PWX is imo more consistently sympathetc to SRQ than LR is#because they both love her#and PWX can empathize with that#(btw if u enjoy the kind of narrative where characters frequently misrepresent their feelings and motives)#(like people frequently do in real life)#(and you have to pay attention to their actions and cross-check what they say against a pattern of what they do)#(then i recommend The Vampire Diaries)#(one of my fav aspects of that show)
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I think Jin Guangyao’s backstory makes him a really compelling antagonist. The first few times his name appears in the novel, he’s presented as the current leader of the Jin Sect, “the only illegitimate son whom Jin GuangShan approved of” (chapter 11) and whose merits allowed him to become Chief Cultivator, the highest position of power in the cultivation world. The more we learn about him, the more we realize the situation wasn’t that simple.
As we’re repeatedly shown through Empathy, Meng Yao’s life wasn’t easy at all. When he was young, he was scorned by everyone for his lowly background no matter what he did. Even the other prostitutes in the brothel where he grew up made fun of his mother's delusion that one day Jin Guangshan would give her and her son a better life. Even Mo Xuanyu, another illegitimate son, was treated better than him by Jin Guangshan, because his mother came from a good family. “At least Jin GuangShan still remembered that he had such a son and brought him back to Koi Tower” (chapter 48), while Meng Yao and his mother were completely abandoned.
After his mother died, Meng Yao went to find his father, but of course he wasn’t received. Instead, he was kicked down the stairs of Koi Tower and rolled down the steps from top to bottom. How did he react to this affront?
Allegedly, he didn’t say anything after he got up. Wiping away the blood on his forehead, then dusting off the dirt that got onto his clothes, he picked up his belongings and walked away.
(Chapter 48)
We always see him react like this against adversity. He never gets angry, never yells, never vents his frustration in any way. We don’t know what kind of feelings he harbors in his heart. This is much more terrifying than Nie Mingjue’s volatile temper.
After this, Meng Yao didn’t give up at all. If anything, this experience gave him more determination to see his and his mother’s dream fulfilled. He didn’t have strong spiritual powers because he had started cultivating too late, but he was gifted with a keen mind and a lot of resourcefulness. He was refused by the Jin Sect, so he went to the Nie. He managed to attract Nie Mingjue’s attention by doing the things he knew Nie Mingjue would approve of, like helping civilians during the war. We don’t know how much of it was due to his own concern for the well-being of the common people. On one hand, Jin Guangyao built the watchtowers to help people in the most remote areas, despite meeting a lot of opposition for it, both from his father and the other sects. On the other hand, he used innocent prostitutes to murder his father and then killed them, so he doesn’t seem to actually care about the common people. I think most of his actions while he was in the Nie Sect were calculated to make the sect leader notice him.
Nie Mingjue’s righteousness made him stand up for Meng Yao when he heard people bad-mouthing him. Nie Mingjue had his flaws and a black-and-white morality, but he was fair to his subordinates and gave credit where it was due. He showed his appreciation for Meng Yao’s hard work and attitude by appointing him as his deputy. Meng Yao’s situation in the Nie Sect of course wasn’t ideal and he struggled to be accepted (the scene with the cultivators refusing to drink from the teacups served by the “son of a prostitute” was telling), but being the sect leader’s deputy was the highest position he could have achieved only through his merits. I believe that if he had decided to stop there and be satisfied with what he already had - a good position, two sect leaders who supported him - his life would have been much happier.
Unfortunately, that wasn’t the case. Meng Yao’s past, coupled with his habit of bottling up his emotions and remembering every affront he received, had made him accumulate years of pent-up resentment. Nie Mingjue offered him the opportunity to go where he wanted instead of using Meng Yao’s debt of gratitude to keep him by his side. He even wrote him a letter of recommendation to give to Jin Guangshan so that he could be appointed to a good position in the Jin Sect. However, Jin Guangshan didn’t even meet Meng Yao. He completely ignored his presence and even feigned ignorance when Nie Mingjue went to inquire about him. In that kind of environment, even Meng Yao’s superiors could get away with taking credit for Meng Yao’s achievements. When Nie Mingjue went to look for him, he caught him precisely while he was taking revenge.
What Meng Yao did that time was definitely questionable. Even in a world like MDZS where revenge is completely justified, Meng Yao went too far by murdering his superior for stealing his credit. The problem is that in the Jin Sect, Meng Yao didn’t have anyone he could complain to for his superior’s wrongdoings. His father couldn’t care less about him and everyone else secretly rejoiced to see him struggling: in a society where birthright was everything, the son of a prostitute was lower than them even though his father was a sect leader. Nie Mingjue told him to confess his crime and accept the punishment the Jin Sect would give him, but that was like sealing his fate. There was no way Jin Guangshan would judge him fairly. The mere son of a prostitute daring to murder a respected member of the Jin Sect? Meng Yao would have been lucky if they didn’t execute him on the spot. Nie Mingjue didn’t consider all of this because his rigid mentality prevented him from seeing the nuance in Meng Yao’s situation. He thought that if Meng Yao truly had his reasons for killing his superior, the Jin Sect would acknowledge it. He didn’t take classism into consideration because he couldn’t see past his own privilege.
Nie Mingjue’s mentality was too black-and-white, but he wasn’t completely wrong, either. In that moment he caught a glimpse of Meng Yao’s true nature: that of a schemer and a manipulator. From that moment on, Nie Mingjue could never trust Meng Yao again like he had done in the past. He didn’t completely give up on him, though: after the end of the Sunshot Campaign, when Meng Yao was finally recognized by his father and became Jin Guangyao, Nie Mingjue accepted to become sworn brothers with him because he wanted to bring him back to the right path.
At the time Meng Yao had apparently achieved his goal: his father had recognized him and given him a place in Koi Tower, finally acknowledging his merits. However, that was far from the truth. Jin Guangshan had no intention whatsoever of making Jin Guangyao his heir; he gave him the tasks of a servant and made him do the things he wouldn’t dirty his precious heir’s hands with. He ordered Jin Guangyao to get rid of all the obstacles that prevented him from reaching the position of Chief Cultivator, and Jin Guangyao did. Despite this, his father never cared for him and never really accepted him. On top of that, Madam Jin didn’t show an ounce of compassion for the illegitimate son of her husband: she kept venting her frustrations on him as if Jin Guangyao was at fault for her husband’s vices.
Jin Guangyao was mostly isolated in Koi Tower, but somehow he kept believing that someday his father would actually recognize him. What made him lose faith completely was what Jin Guangshan said about his mother:
“Why was a sect leader who spent money like water unwilling to do the smallest favor and buy my mother’s freedom? Simple—it was too much trouble. My mother waited for so many years, weaving together so many difficult circumstances when she talked to me, imagining for his sake so many hardships. And the real reason was only a single word: trouble.
“This is what he said, ‘It’s especially women who’ve read some books who think they’re a level higher than other women. They’re the most troublesome, with so many demands and unrealistic thoughts. If I bought her freedom and took her back to Lanling, who knows how much fuss she’d make. It was best that I let her stay where she was just like that. With her conditions, she’d probably be popular for a few more years. She wouldn’t have to worry about her spendings for the rest of her life.’
“‘Son? Oh, forget it.’”
(Chapter 106)
Jin Guangyao did a lot of despicable things in his life. He had the chance to stop and be happy with what he had so many times, but he never did. He kept obeying his horrible father’s wishes and sacrificing innocent people for the sake of his own ambition. He had a lot of talents and skills he could have used to do good, but he wasn’t a good person.
His backstory does an excellent job at explaining his behavior and motivations. It makes him a complex character, far from one-dimensional, and I think it’s great that the ultimate villain of the story is a character like him. Jin Guangyao’s evil deeds weren’t justified in the least, but spoke of a resentment born from real struggles and the desire to climb the social ladder to prove that even someone like him - the son of a prostitute, scorned and ridiculed by everyone - could reach the top of the cultivation world.
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The Untamed, a brief summary [Part 1/6]
Okay my friends, I have heard your calls. Here’s my play-by-play version of The Untamed.
Note the first: I’m dividing it up into sections because it is, after all, a 50 episode series and I doubt anyone will want to wade through it all in one go.
Note the second: I am going to try to be as unbiased as possible. There are different ways to interpret some of the characters’ actions, especially later in the show when things get morally complex. You can find oceans of meta on this stuff, so I will try not to pick a side when at all possible.
Note the third: I’m going to keep the tone pretty light and humorous. This show gets *dark* in the middle but y’all are reading a summary and I don’t want it to get too dry or too depressing. Please pardon me if I am flippant from time to time.
Part One: Sword Wizard School
I thought about doing a character guide but decided it would be easier to introduce you to characters as we meet them, because there are a LOT of characters. However, I am going to give you a brief primer on the important families/places.
Actually, let me back up a little further. The Untamed is a xianxia drama, so it’s about people trying to become immortal celestial beings. They fight monsters and do a lot of magic, and they live in clans/sects. A clan is a family. A sect is a cultivation style/school. The terms are often used interchangeably (even I’m guilty) but they are not exactly the same. Members of a clan will belong to that sect, but the sect will also take in outsiders to train, who are sect members but not clan members.
There are five Great Sects:
Province: Yunmeng; sect: Jiang, home: Lotus Pier
Province: Gusu, sect: Lan, home: Cloud Recesses
Province: Lanling, sect: Jin, home: Koi/Carp Tower
Province: Qinghe, sect: Nie, home: The Unclean Realm (this is not to say it is dirty, it’s from Buddhism and might also translate to ‘The Worldly Realm’)
Province: Qishan, sect: Wen, home: Nightless City/Nevernight (depending on translation)
Here’s a map I made for my fic reference which shows roughly where these provinces are in relation to each other. I may have pretended they were cities in America so I could calculate mileage. Yes I am the world’s biggest nerd, thanks.
H’okay! The show is not in chronological order but I am going in chronological order because the point is to make this simple for you. I’ll admit that I may not get everything 100% correct because it’s been a while since I watched parts of it but I’ll try.
Setting: Caiyi Town, [Gusu]
ENTER A GREMLIN.
Meet Wei Wuxian. He is a 16 year old chaos gremlin with ADHD. He does not look 16 but actors in American dramas pretending to be teenagers also do not look 16 so we’ll let that go. He is with his adopted brother (also 16ish, but younger than Wei Wuxian) Jiang Cheng, and his adopted older sister, Jiang Yanli (probably about 6 years older).
Oh, right. Names. Most characters have two names, a birth name and a ‘courtesy’ name which is a fancy name they get when they’re old enough to get their swords and stuff. They also have titles. For the sake of not driving y’all crazy, I will choose the most commonly used name for the character and stick with it, and then give you a chart at the end so you’ll understand fanfiction.
Wei Wuxian and his siblings are headed to Sword Wizard School in Gusu, hosted by the Lan sect. Wei Wuxian is clearly planning to Be Himself during these lectures, and Jiang Cheng does Not Approve. Jiang Cheng is obviously very serious and concerned with appearances, which makes sense because he is the sect heir. As an adopted son, Wei Wuxian can goof off; Jiang Cheng does not have that luxury. (Wei Wuxian is the son of two of Jiang Cheng’s father’s friends, who died when he was young. More on this later.) Jiang Cheng reminds Wei Wuxian and the other disciples that are with them that they are representing the Jiang sect and they should make a good impression.
They don’t think they can get to Cloud Recesses before dark so they get rooms at an inn.
ENTER A SNOB.
Jin Zixuan is the next fun character you’ll meet. He’s also 16 or thereabouts despite looking 24 at minimum. He is a sect heir to the Lanling Jin and he does not like being near or interacting with strangers. He pays the innkeeper to rent the whole inn and throw any other guests out. Is this a dick move? I’m trying to be unbiased here, so yes. Yes it is.
Wei Wuxian tries to flirt with a couple of Jin Zixuan’s retainers to get them to allow the Yunmeng siblings to stay, but Jin Zixuan decides to be a big jerk about it. Fun fact! Jin Zixuan is betrothed to Jiang Yanli! He is literally throwing his betrothed out of an inn so he doesn’t have to share a building with people. Wei Wuxian gets pissy and picks a fight with him but Jiang Yanli convinces him that he’s not worth it (although she is much nicer about it than any of us would be in her shoes), and they decide to head up to Cloud Recesses despite the time.
But alas! In their haste, they leave their invitation behind.
ENTER AN ICE PRINCE
As the Yunmeng trio try to talk their way past the gate, Lan Wangji arrives. Also 16, he is your classic stoic, repressed gay, and is the younger brother of the Lan Sect leader. With him are a bunch of Lan cultivators and a guy on a stretcher who is clearly in rough shape. The Lan cultivators carry him inside.
Wei Wuxian, pure of heart and dumb of ass, decides that this is a great time to try to talk his way through the gate, figuring that Lan Wangji, being an important person, can let them in. Lan Wangji reacts about how you would expect a stoic repressed gay would to a cute boy flirting with him for the first time: uses a silencing spell on him, tells him he’s absolutely not admitted without their invitation, and locks them out.
Jiang Cheng, who has spent the last 3 minutes desperately trying to get his brother to shut up before he gets them all in trouble, sends him back to town to find the invitation.
Int. Cloud Recesses [Gusu]
ENTER A SOFT MAN AND HIS EXTREMELY STARCHED UNCLE
Lan Xichen, the head of the Lan sect and Lan Wangji’s older brother, is studying the guy they brought in, with his uncle. Lan Xichen is young for a sect leader (he’s only 19 in the book but probably 24-25ish in the show) and his uncle advises him a lot of the time. The guy they brought is kind of dead but also kind of not. They say a bunch of stuff you won’t understand if you have not seen xianxia dramas before. It’s not really important.
Ext. Cloud Recesses [Gusu]
RE-ENTER THE GREMLIN
Wei Wuxian has come back with the invitation to find the rest of his sect no longer waiting outside and all of Cloud Recesses sealed by wards. “Wards are made to be broken,” he says, demonstrating a clear lack of understanding of their purpose. It’s a good thing he’s here for school.
He breaks in, carrying a couple jars of liquor, only to find Lan Wangji standing guard. Lan Wangji reprimands him for breaking important Lan sect rules like a) not breaking and entering, b) not coming in after dark, and c) bringing alcohol, which is forbidden. Wei Wuxian offers him one of the jars because he is 16 and stupid and for some reason thought a bribe was what this situation needed. Lan Wangji pulls a sword on him, which is definitely a reasonable response and not because he has his first boner and he’s angry about it.
They have a sword fight, basically to a draw. Lan Wangji drags him in to see Lan Xichen, who clearly thinks this is hilarious. Wei Wuxian blames everything on Jin Zixuan and Lan Wangji. He also says intelligent things about the not-a-corpse they’re examining, because the writers wanted us to know that he’s not a whole dumbass. Lan Xichen basically slaps him on the wrist, tells him to behave himself and sends him off to the guest house his siblings were given, and then teases Lan Wangji about Baby’s First Crush.
Ext, Nightless City [Qishan]
ENTER AN OVER THE TOP VILLAIN AND HIS HENCHMEN
Nightless City isn’t actually nightless. It’s just never dark there because it’s on top of a volcano, because that’s where all the cool villains live.
This is the home of the Qishan Wen, who are Obviously Evil from the Black Outfits, Volcano Lair, and Shuffling Zombies. Their leader is Wen Ruohan. His personality is that he is evil. He’s saying a bunch of stuff you won’t understand yet and then sends his Obnoxious Son Wen Chao off to look for something. He also sends Wen Qing, who is related to him somehow, presumably. She asks if she can bring her brother, Wen Ning, and Wen Ruohan says sure because all he cares about is Being Evil in his Zombie Volcano Lair.
Int, Cloud Recesses [Gusu]
ENTER A SLACKER and his friend, EVERY RETAIL EMPLOYEE DEALING WITH A KAREN YOU’VE EVER MET.
They’re all at the first lecture, and there’s a ceremony where each visiting sect presents a gift to Lan Qiren (the uncle/teacher). I think we might see what the Jin give him but I don’t care. Right now we’re talking about Nie Huaisang, the younger brother of the sect leader of the Nie sect. He is baby. He has brought a bird to class for no reason other than that he caught it and thinks it’s cool. Presenting to the dour and stern Lan Qiren makes him nervous.
With him is Meng Yao. Unlike everyone else you’ve met so far, Meng Yao is not a member of the gentry. He is the son of the Jin sect leader and a prostitute. (Yes, this makes him Jin ‘I can’t breathe the same air as commoners’ Zixuan’s younger brother.) When he was old enough to do Sword Magic he went to the Jin sect and asked for admittance, and his father had him thrown down a set of 200 steps because his father is an Enormous Douche. (That’s not biased. Hating this dude is one of the few things everyone agrees on.) Then he went to the Nie sect, and they said, “Sure, you can come in, but you’re not really a disciple, mmkay?” and he said sure. But he has worked his way up to being the assistant to the sect leader which is a pretty important position for someone with his background.
Naturally, because Meng Yao is Not Like the Others, a few people take this opportunity to gossip and talk smack about him. Meng Yao is upset but tries not to look it. Lan Xichen takes a moment to reassure him, saying that the Nie sect leader had written to him about what a helpful and awesome assistant he had now, and that Meng Yao obviously lived up to it. Meng Yao immediately develops the world’s Most Obvious Crush Don’t @ Me You Would Too.
ENTER MR. OBNOXIOUS, AN IRON MAIDEN, and A PUPPY. Fortunately these are the last characters you’ll meet for a while.
The Wen sect shows up at the gates of Cloud Recesses like ‘what up, I got a big attitude and fuck you’. The gate dude tells them they can’t come in without an invitation, and Wen Chao attacks him because he was raised in a volcano and they go in anyway. With Wen Chao are Wen Qing and her brother, Wen Ning. They are actually pretty awesome, you just don’t know it yet.
Wen Chao busts in on the Saluting Ceremony just as Jiang Cheng is trying to present their gift, and immediately begins insulting everyone there. You should count yourself fortunate that you’re only reading this because Wen Chao is literally the most obnoxious character in this show. Anyway, Wei Wuxian decides to pick a fight with him even though this is *obviously* a stupid thing to do. (I love Wei Wuxian with my whole heart but he is so stupid at 16 lmao.) He calls Wen Chao out on interrupting Jiang Cheng. Wen Chao reacts completely rationally and calmly BAHAHA who am I kidding, he pulls his sword out. Everyone else pulls their swords out. Wen Qing looks like she has the world’s worst migraine.
Lan Xichen takes out his flute and plays eight seconds of music that makes everyone’s swords go flying into the ceiling. Had I mentioned how awesome Lan Xichen is? Because he is Awesome.
Wen Chao gets even more pissy but Wen Qing shuts him down, saying she and her brother are there for Sword Wizard School and she’s sorry her cousin is such an asshole. Lan Xichen tells them to ‘try to come on time’ tomorrow. Had I mentioned how awesome Lan Xichen is? It bears repeating.
Ext, Cloud Recesses [Gusu]
Wei Wuxian is making fast friends with Nie Huaisang. They decide to go fishing in one of the streams. He sees Wen Qing sneaking around and asks what she’s doing there. She blows him off.
Meng Yao stops Lan Xichen and says goodbye to him. Lan Xichen asks why he’s leaving so soon, and Meng Yao says that he can’t actually stay for the lectures, since he’s only an assistant to the Nie sect, not a disciple. Lan Xichen tells him that Nie Mingjue (the head of the Nie sect) is just and honorable and will surely reward him for working so hard. They make heart eyes at each other for like a solid thirty seconds before Meng Yao manages to leave. I’m sorry, I’m trying to be unbiased. They gaze at each other longingly – no, shit, that’s still biased. They, uh, regard each other with mutual respect for thirty solid seconds and then Meng Yao leaves.
Meanwhile Jiang Cheng is Fretting about the fact that Wei Wuxian is Making a Bad Impression. He ain’t seen nothing yet. Jiang Yanli calms him down.
Wen Qing talks to her brother Wen Ning and is sad because he’s sick. She promises him that someday they’ll be able to leave Nightless City.
Int, Cloud Recesses [Gusu]
Lan Qiren is lecturing. Wei Wuxian proposes some casual heresy. Lan Qiren gets mad and tells him to copy the Chapter of Conduct a thousand times, and throws him out of class. Jiang Cheng tries to crawl under his desk.
Instead of going to copy lines, Wei Wuxian wanders off and meets A PUPPY, ie Wen Ning. He is practicing his archery. Wei Wuxian proceeds to help him with his stance and Wen Ning looks like he just discovered his bisexuality. Wen Qing sees them together and is clearly not thrilled. Wei Wuxian asks her why she’s always wandering around the back hills of Cloud Recesses and asks if she’s looking for something. She tells him not to be stupid and leaves with her brother.
Lan Wangji drags Wei Wuxian back to the library for his punishment. Wei Wuxian proceeds to spend the next few hours doing Everything That Is Not That, which culminates in him exchanging Lan Wangji’s book for some porn when he’s not looking. Lan Wangji tears the porn up and tells him to piss off.
~romance~
Jiang Cheng: I hope you’re proud of yourself.
Wei Wuxian: I absolutely am.
They go back to their guest house. Wen Qing is there. She’s a doctor! Told you she was awesome. Jiang Yanli wasn’t feeling well and Wen Qing gave her some medicine. They talk about the fact that there aren’t lectures for a few days because Lan Qiren is off doing Official Stuff.
But there’s still fun to be had! There’s a water demon attacking people in the nearby town. Lan Xichen is worried that it’s serious and he’s going to go himself. Lan Wangji goes with him. Wei Wuxian asks if he and Jiang Cheng can go ‘get some practice’ as they fight lots of water demons in Yunmeng. Lan Xichen, remembering his brother’s obvious crush, says sure. Wen Ning wants to go too. So does Wen Qing. Lan Xichen suddenly feels like a chaperone on a field trip but says fine because he’s the cool older brother.
Wei Wuxian takes the opportunity to ask questions about the not-a-corpse from earlier. Lan Xichen politely tells him that’s it handled and not to worry about it. Wei Wuxian thinks there’s something he’s not telling him, and he mentions that to Lan Wangji, who agrees but won’t say so. Wei Wuxian can tell anyway because he’s learning to read Lan Wangji’s microexpressions.
They fight a water demon. Jiang Cheng gets injured and Wen Qing patches him up. He looks at her with puppy eyes. Some dumbass loses his sword in the water. Wen Ning tries to help him despite being uniquely unqualified to do so, and passes out. Wei Wuxian tries to rescue both of them, and Lan Wangji ends up rescuing all three of them despite clearly wanting to let the water demon eat them. Jiang Cheng buys a comb to give to Wen Qing but chickens out and doesn’t give it to her. Wei Wuxian deduces that Wen Ning’s illness is because of a previous bad experience with ghostly spirits or something, and gives Wen Qing a talisman to give to her brother that will help protect him from monsters. He says that no matter what she’s looking for at Cloud Recesses, he hopes the talisman will help Wen Ning.
Then he tries to buy Lan Wangji some fruit as a gift. Lan Wangji refuses to look at him. Lan Xichen starts mentally writing wedding invitations.
Ext. Nightless City [Qishan]
ENTER AN EDGELORD (sorry I forgot about him, in fact I think this happened earlier but the timing isn’t really important)
Meet Xue Yang. You have no idea who he is. Wen Ruohan is demanding he hand over something called yin iron. Xue Yang’s response to this is basically ‘choke me harder, Daddy’ and you’re left feeling vaguely disturbed.
Int. Cloud Recesses [Gusu]
It’s party time! Wei Wuxian smuggled some liquor back with him. He, Jiang Cheng, and Nie Huaisang get drunk. They give Jiang Cheng a hard time about his high standards for women.
Lan Wangji comes in like the hall monitor you hated in high school to break it up. Jiang Cheng and Nie Huaisang run away. Wei Wuxian uses a talisman on Lan Wangji to keep him from reporting them and make him take a drink of the alcohol. We all remind ourselves very firmly that he is only 16 and will do stupid shit, despite wanting to slap him. Lan Wangji has never had alcohol before and one drink makes him blackout drunk. Wei Wuxian has to babysit him for the rest of the night. Serves him right.
The next day, they’re all in trouble, even Lan Wangji. Wei Wuxian tries to tell Lan Qiren that it’s not Lan Wangji’s fault, but Lan Wangji accepts his punishment anyway. They get hit with a stick a bunch of times.
Lan Wangji goes to recuperate in the cold springs. Lan Xichen, the world’s biggest troll, sends Wei Wuxian to do the same. Lan Wangji nearly has an aneurysm when Wei Wuxian tries to start taking his clothes off.
ENTER THE PLOT
They get pulled underwater and end up in a cave. It’s a magic cave where only members of the Lan clan are allowed to be. To keep the cave from killing him, Lan Wangji wraps his Magic Forehead Ribbon around Wei Wuxian’s wrist. This is the same magic forehead ribbon he told Wei Wuxian ten episode minutes ago that only parents, spouses, and children are allowed to touch. Draw what conclusions you will.
There’s a ghostly lady in the cave who is Lan Wangji’s ancestor. She tells them Evil Is Abroad. A long time ago a dude named Xue Chonghai took a bunch of pieces of metal and filled them full of evil energy. Everyone banded together and killed him, but the metal couldn’t be completely destroyed, so it was split into ‘the cardinal directions’ and then sealed and hidden. Ah ha! This is what Wen Ruohan is looking for! It’s called Evil MacGuffin yin iron.
Wei Wuxian says if it’s so powerful, why don’t they use it to fight back? Ghost lady says she tried that but it’s too evil and it doesn’t work. She gives them the piece that was sealed in the cave and tells them to go fight evil together. Lan Wangji is glad it’s too cold to have a boner.
Except then she throws them out of the cave and onto dry land and Wei Wuxian lands on top of him and he definitely gets one from that. Sorry, Lan Wangji, I don’t make the rules.
They’ve been missing for two days and everyone is really upset, especially Jiang Cheng, who thinks Wei Wuxian was just goofing off.
Lan Xichen takes the piece of yin iron they got in the cave and seals it in a pouch. They discuss the fact that Wen Ruohan is clearly collecting the pieces of yin iron and this is Bad News Bears. The yin iron will respond to other pieces of yin iron so they decide they should use the piece they have to locate the other pieces.
But first, classes are over! Despite the fact that each of these events has led seamlessly into the next and it seems like they’ve been there a week, they’ve actually been there six months. If you dealt with the Teen Wolf ‘timeline’ I assume you can deal with that lmao.
There’s a lantern-lighting ceremony to celebrate. Wei Wuxian paints a rabbit on his lantern because there were a bunch of rabbits in the cave and Lan Wangji clearly likes rabbits. This makes Lan Wangji smile for the first time. They all light their lanterns and make a wish.
Wei Wuxian wishes he can stand with justice and live without regrets. Lan Wangji looks at him like he’s about to propose. Wen Qing wishes she could protect her little brother and that he’ll always be safe. Jiang Cheng looks at her like he’s about to propose. Nie Huaisang wishes he can pass his classes and get the hell out of high school. Truly, the most relatable.
But the moment is ruined because people start teasing Jin Zixuan and Jiang Yanli, asking why they didn’t light a lantern together and wish for a happy marriage. Jin Zixuan, the paragon of reacting reasonably to things, storms off. He tells his sect members he doesn’t want to hear about the marriage and they should stop bringing it up. Wei Wuxian overhears and they get into a fight. Jiang Yanli manages to get Wei Wuxian to back off.
The next day, Wei Wuxian is being punished for punching a jerk in the face. He is kneeling on the rocks of the courtyard. But he’s already gotten distracted because there’s an anthill and he has ADHD. Lan Wangji calls him ‘unteachable’ and stomps off, clearly mad at his boner like usual.
Because this is kind of important, the two sect leaders have showed up to hash it out. Jiang Yanli’s dad says ‘listen, if your son doesn’t want to marry my daughter, we shouldn’t force him’. Jin Zixuan’s dad says, ‘kids are stupid and they don’t know what they want’. Jiang Yanli’s dad says, ‘well I absolutely agree your son is stupid but he’s being a jerk to my daughter so why don’t we politely call this off before something happens that makes one of us impolitely call it off’, and Jin Zixuan’s dad agrees. Jiang Yanli is upset, although why she actually wanted to marry Jin Zixuan is beyond everyone involved, including the audience. Then again it can’t be easy to hear that some dude who has barely even met you has decided you’re not good enough for him.
Meanwhile, Wei Wuxian sees Lan Xichen telling Lan Wangji ‘be careful’ and correctly deduces that Lan Wangji is leaving with the yin iron to try to find the other pieces, while Lan Xichen stays behind to protect Cloud Recesses since the Wen sect thinks it’s still there. He leaves a note that says ‘gone monster hunting, meet you back at home!’ Jiang Cheng nearly has an aneurysm, especially when his dad is like ‘lmao that kid is such a dumbass’.
~end Sword Wizard School~
okay, guys, what did you think? was this helpful? could you follow it? was it at least vaguely entertaining? should I keep going?
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(Part 4 of Stay, the MY time travel fic. Read Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4 )
So much that Meng Yao has seen in his second life has been disturbingly accurate to the memories that he still has of his former life, but the brothel is different. It feels much smaller than it did to a child who grew up there. Appears more garish than he’d seen from afar, after ordering the place to be burned down. Or perhaps these decorations are so like the gilded decor Koi tower that he hadn’t noticed, back then.
Meng Yao walks inside now, for the first time since he fled after mother’s death, dressed in simple gray robes of good make, sword and tassel marking him as a cultivator. His hair is deliberately done up plainly, as different from his mother’s as he can manage it. He does not wish to be recognized here, as her son.
“Please, please stop,” someone is crying out, and a tall, well-built young man – not a cultivator though – is dragging a woman outside by the hair. As Meng Yao steps aside to make way, he recognizes her. Anxin. It’s a new way to remember her face, twisted in fear and desperation, instead of in cruel, mocking laughter.
He lets them pass, and walks into the establishment. Two young girls, maybe sixteen, direct him to a table in the main hall and prepare tea. He responds to their flirtation politely; they’re just doing their jobs, after all; and waits for the Madame to be free.
I bet Father, never had to wait, thinks Meng Yao, but it’s an idle thought. Even his mother had not wanted Meng Yao to be like him, only to gain his favour and the prestige that entailed.
For all that he’s a cultivator now, one of considerable renown even if it does not match that of a Sect Leader or heir of a major sect. He waits patiently for the madame’s attention.
The young women at his sides stiffen into perfect posture, alerting him to the imminent arrival of their boss. “How can I help the honoured young master?” the well dressed, elegant woman asks finally, coming over to sit gracefully at his table.
“This one greets Madame,” says Meng Yao simply. “I am merely here to observe, and perhaps make a purchase.” She’s so practiced that her reaction is nearly entirely subdued, only traces of her glee at finding a customer to buy one of her girls’ contract are visible. Meng Yao pretends not to notice, just smiles, serenely.
“The Young Master is seeking a wife, then? My girls are each very accomplished, and I’m sure he will find one eminently suitable to his tastes.”
Meng Yao just nods, as if disinterested. “If madame would show me the suitable candidates…” then hesitates, carefully. “I am not seeking a wife. My Uncle’s wife has taken ill, and I hoped that if I found him a suitable concubine, there would be less disharmony in my household. I am unmarried, and finding good servants is difficult enough without him scaring the help away with his ways.” He scrunches his nose in faint distaste, and watches the calculation in her eyes.
“This one understands, the Young Master will not be looking for their skills in managing a household, then. There are women to match this criterion as well. Some of my girls are great beauties and will certainly captivate any man.”
“He can find beauties on his own coin,” Meng Yao huffs. “As long as she can perform her duties, who cares what she looks like? Will Madame show me the women? I will decide when I see them.” With such crude, miserly words, Meng Yao has saved himself having to browse through most of the women here, as well as much of the haggling. The Madame would not dare to inflate her prices above that of the prostitute’s contract, for fear he’d leave and just bribe one of his female servants to quietly accept the abuse.
Sure enough, after Meng Yao is settled in a private room, the women suggested to him are significantly older than the young ones entertaining downstairs. The madame excuses herself; there’s nothing much for her to do here, but leaves two clerks to explain the costs of each contract.
Meng Yao reads through them dispassionately, even setting aside Sisi’s contract when he sees it the first time, though in the ‘look again,’ pile, not the ‘too expensive’ one. Finally, he narrows it down to three, and the women are requested to attend them, in the small parlor.
Meng Yao keeps his face averted when Sisi approaches. There’s a sharp inhale when she sees him, and he looks up to catch her eye and quickly shakes his head, asking her to not give it away. Seeming to understand, she falls into place beside her two sisters, and allows Meng Yao to… consider his options. He picks Sisi as if on a whim, and then finalizes the purchase.
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“Meng Yao?” she asks, when they’re left alone, shortly after. There is paperwork to be completed, and they’re brought tea while they wait.
“Aunt Sisi,” Meng Yao says softly. “It is good to see you again.”
“I didn’t expect… do you really have an uncle in need of a concubine?”
“Jin Guangshan has three brothers,” he answers. “But as I have not acknowledged him as my father, I do not have uncles.”
“I see,” she says. That sharp gaze means, go on. Means, what do you want of me, and it is too suspicious, too disturbing to wait until they leave the brothel to explain.
“I would have bought Mother out, if I could. I dreamed of the day. But she died and… Aunt Sisi has ever been kind to her. You were her greatest comfort, in her final days.”
“Meng Shi was a good woman,” she says shortly. There’s no softness to the words.
“I remembered that Aunt Sisi was an excellent seamstress. There is a shop well known to me, in Yunmeng, and the proprietor is willing to take on a skilled helper. The money is a loan from my Sect Leader, but it will be paid back over a year from my allowance. Aunt Sisi may pay me back over a longer time, we can work out the specifics of that loan, after you’ve settled your living at the shop.”
Sisi is quiet for a long time. “There is a merchant,” she says, “Who offered to marry me.”
“The one with the jealous wife?” he asks. “Does Aunt Sisi believe her life would be peaceful, in her household?” Not that she would even get a chance to live there, but there’s no way that Aunt Sisi could know that.
She doesn’t say anything else, nor does he, while they finish their tea, and eat the snacks laid out. Unlooked for good fortune, at the whims of those more powerful than him had never made Meng Yao feel grateful. He’s not going to expect it in someone else.
“I suppose I should thank you,” she says, only after they’ve left the establishment. He’s leading her towards the docks, to rent a boat to Yunmeng. He has all of her luggage sealed away in a qiankun pouch, though her money is in a purse clutched tightly in her hands.
“Aunt Sisi does not have to,” he says. “This one did not consult you, before choosing this for you. I apologize, for that.”
“Don’t bother apologizing,” she says. “It’s just a lot, without a moment’s notice. But I am grateful.”
“You’ll like Madam Yan, the tailor,” says Meng Yao. “She’s kind.” Of course, Meng Yao can practically see her disbelief; of course the tailor was kind to Meng Yao, a paying customer! What would she be like to an underling, and one with an unpleasant background? But Meng Yao knew more of Madam Yan than just the previous day’s meeting with her, when he’d talked to her and asked her if she needed the help of a talented seamstress who needed somewhere to go. Meng Yao’s skilful enquiries and opinions on the robes that he was having commissioned definitely helped support his argument that he knew what he was talking about, and that if he said someone was skilled they must be, but Meng Yao also knew a little of Madam Yan’s history because her daughter would one day be a Jiang disciple, and Jin Ling would be fond of the Shijie with the lovely robes.
He’s certain that he’s making the right choice, to leave Sisi with her instead of at the brothel, where she’d only face injury, scarring, and heartache.
(And then turn desperate enough to be hired for the most suspect of jobs, of being used in a murder plot, and then locked away for years. Meng Yao had been careful to give her a comfortable life, but he doubts that it was any happier than the lives of the koi in his ponds. He owes her this, even if she does not know why.)
The awkward air between them doesn’t clear, even as they hire a boat to take them the half hour upstream to Yunmeng, nor while they stop at an inn for lunch. He asks her if she’d like to rent a room to freshen up in before she meets her future employer, and she agrees. Meng Yao waits downstairs after paying for the room, returning Sisi’s luggage to her.
While he waits, he wanders between the shops nearby. He doesn’t have much money to spend on frivolities, he’s carefully planned out his finances for the next year to allow him to repay the borrowed sum as soon as possible, but browsing has always been fun. His eyes catch on a hat, scholarly, a bit shorter than Meng Yao’s own preference, and he stares for a moment.
So much ribbing in his previous life, for his height, for his name, for how he was more of an administrator than a son to Jin Guangshan, even during all those years where he was the only acknowledged heir. ‘I’m doing it all for you, Mother,’ he’d told himself, through all of it. Setting his signature hat on his head every morning, like a piece of armor. That everything he did was for his mother… and yet he’d killed so many people in her name.
People like her.
Meng Yao remembers the burning fury of hating being called a whore’s son, of people washing their hands when they touched him, like he was tainted, like the filth was on him instead of their sick, twisted minds. Of being refused a chance to carry his own nephew, shooed away and made to stand apart from the golden heir of Lanling.
My mother is not like those whores, he’d thought to himself, she’s nothing like those filth, and never regretted or repented for his choices until he saw Sisi’s scarred, terrified face among the women he’d ordered to be killed.
The frightened, sobbing women who had been used to kill his own father.
Meng Yao thinks of Anxin’s terrified face as she was dragged out of the brothel this morning. He has no idea what it was about. He doesn’t think it matters. Perhaps they truly would all be better off dying in a cleansing fire than living their sad miserable lives, as he’d reasoned to himself before. That they were deserving of such a death, for how they treated Meng Shi.
All of that… any of that, was easier than the truth.
My mother was a prostitute, and I was ashamed.
Nothing, no temple, no prayers, no statues of guanyin with his mother’s face could ever erase his crimes.
“Meng Yao?” asks a hesitant voice, and he turns around to smile at Sisi. She’s wearing the same subdued outfit she’d worn to leave the brothel, but she’s washed away the sweat from travelling over water on a hot day, and her hair has been redone. She looks like any other woman in the marketplace, though the loveliness of her face is still admirable.
“The shop is not far,” he tells her. “Shall we go?”
[Read part 5 here!]
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JGY is not a sociopath
and you're kinda an ass for using it as an insult
from healthline.com:
The new edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) says that someone with ASPD consistently shows a lack of regard for others’ feelings or violations of people’s rights. People with ASPD may not realize that they have these behaviors. They may live their entire lives without a diagnosis.
1. Doesn’t respect social norms or laws. They consistently break laws or overstep social boundaries.
Jgy is known for his polite behavior and always paying attention to social boundaries. This is what he's basically known for. He is very good at settling disputes and remembering people's likes and dislikes.
We don't really have any laws that we know of in MDZS (except the Lan tenets maybe?) One example of something close would be XY's punishment, but in that case, JGY is following JGS's orders, so he is following the rules of his sect leader
2. Lies, deceives others, uses false identities or nicknames, and uses others for personal gain. Doesn’t make any long-term plans. They also often behave without thinking of consequences.
JGY does lie and deceive that part is true, but that alone wouldn't qualify him, everyone in the world has lied or deceived in their life.
He never uses false names or other identities, all his names are his own. I think even under WRH he used Meng Yao.
He does use others for personal gain, so that would meet two points of this criteria.
But the rest of this does not apply, JGY is very calculating and makes very long plans. He has a plan for everything far into the future. The consequences of his actions are calculated and pre-planned. he doesn't do anything without thinking about it first.
3. Shows aggressive or aggravated behavior. They consistently get into fights or physically harm others.
This is so completely opposite to his personality that it's almost funny. JGY is not aggressive or aggravated, he's calm and polite. Even at his most aggravated at the temple, he never yells or abuses his workers. So much so that it impresses wwx enough to comment about it. He's never looking for a fight but instead trying to solve them between other cultivators.
JGY is a runner, he's ready to yeet himself away from danger at any point because, oh right, he has self-preservation. The only time we see JGY physically fighting others is during the war or when wwx snuck into his treasure room as a paperman. This is not "consistently"
He does harm others but again it's pretty spaced out and fairly low compared to other cultivators. We even are given a list of people he's harmed and for ones like his wife and his son, are actually just consequences of his actions. They aren't him physically doing harm.
4. Doesn’t consider their own safety or the safety of others.
Jgy is known for his self-preservation. At the temple he made it very clear that he was just there to leave and he wasn't going to harm anyone. And the horrible awful thing he was digging up and hiding in the temple? was his mother's grave. so he was planning on keeping everyone alive, as he escaped with his mother.
yeah pretty sure he cares about his and other's safety.
Also when he supposedly tries to kill lxc by pulling him to nmj, i actually wrote a breakdown of that scene and no he's not
5. Doesn’t follow up on personal or professional responsibilities. This can include repeatedly being late to work or not paying bills on time.
Okay i'm laughing so hard on this one. Who works harder than JGY?!?! He is a workaholic. 1200 watchtowers weren't built by him sitting on his ass. He helped rebuild the cloud recesses. He is always running events and organizing parties.
6. Doesn’t feel guilt or remorse for having harmed or mistreated others.
This one is hard because we never get his POV. We only have other people's POV and tales of paid slander against him. Does JGY feel guilt or remorse? we may never know. We do know that he says he felt like he had to to save his life. But did he feel bad about his wife and child, we don't know. We do know that he told LXC that he never wished him harm and he was quite offended that LXC would ever think otherwise.
We also know when LXC follows him to the coffin that JGY saves him and pushes him away.
so for the most part, since this is unwritten, we don't know, so I cannot use this.
In conclusion:
JGY lies and deceives and uses people for personal gain and that's about the only thing he does on this list. And like, that's pretty common human behavior. It's definitely not enough to get him to qualify.
I'm not fooling myself that anyone except JGY apologists read this, so I really want you guys to think about the people who so easily call JGY a sociopath. The abilst language and hate for mental illnesses that they so easily throw around.
JGY isn't a sociopath but they're not just trying to insult JGY they're trying to belittle and vilify mental illnesses.
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Since the exchange reveal was today, I can finally cross-post this here.
“A Working Relationship” Sci-Fi AU, Artificial Intelligence, Secret Histories, Intrigue, Finding Your Place (and getting a crush on your android boss)
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“I don’t care how smart he is, you’re not putting a Jin on this ship!”
His first reaction is a flush of anger. The second is a barely-smothered explosion of laughter.
In all the insults he’d borne over his parentage in his lifetime, this had to be the first time in… well… ever that it was his father’s side being disparaged.
But when he peeks around the corner and sees who’s arguing with the Admiral, he immediately understands why.
The speaker is a perso-core droid.
Meng Yao has no illusions about the treatment of the droids custom-ordered by the ports his father owns. He’s even met some of them, when they came to drop off another meagre payment to his mother. Delicate, beautiful dolls designed for little more than to be stared at… or played with.
Easily broken, and just as easily replaced.
His still healing ribs give a throb. He can relate to the feeling.
He can use it, too, he realizes, a plan coming together in the back of his mind as he watches the pair bicker.
“Excuse me.”
They both turn at the sound of his voice, and the droid’s eyes narrow, photoreceptors and the light patterns decorating his body briefly shading closer to red than their usual pale green. He’s reasonably sure that if that long dark hair and silver skin weren’t synthetic, he’d be bristling like an offended Firenian Raptor Cat.
It’s an uncomfortably attractive look.
He immediately squashes that thought, then bows, carefully emphasizing the stiff discomfort of the motion. “I apologize for causing any discord. It’s true that my father is Jin Guangshan, but I have no association with the company, nor the ports that it owns.”
“You approached him for work two stationary cycles ago,” the droid says, voice tinged with suspicion.
He had been made aware his background had been searched from the moment he’d been identified as a Jin, however, so he is ready for that. “My late mother desperately wished for me to join the family business. His, of course, not hers. But visiting him has proven to be a mistake. It’s clear now that my father has a very similar opinion of his illegitimate children as he does his droids.”
He opens one of the side panels of his flight suit to show off the bruises that still prominently mottle his skin despite two visits to a medical ward he could afford.
It’s the briefest flicker-flash, a barest twitch of synthetic musculature that most people wouldn’t notice on a human, much less a droid. But the reaction is there, and he can feel the emotional shift in the air as the droid and the Admiral look at each other, the argument between them now silent instead of snapped.
After a few moments that surely feel longer than they actually are, the droid makes a noise that would have been a huff from anyone with lungs and turns away. “One full planetary rotation,” he grumbles, then stalks away down the hall.
If the droid means the planet they’re currently in orbit over, that’s thirty days by the timers in the ports. “Is that to be my entire billet?” he asks cautiously, not wanting to let it sound like a complaint.
Admiral Nie shakes his head. “Probationary period. If Sang-er declares you a fit for Baxia’s crew by then, we’ll re-draw your contract for a more formal position.”
“You value his opinion very highly,” Meng Yao says, careful to keep his tone neutral, lest the Admiral think he’s probing.
Which he is, but-
“As well I should. He's been serving with our ships since before I was born, after all; he knows the fleets inside and out down to the last fastening and half-byte of data."
Something about the way the Admiral says that lingers in the back of his mind even as he’s herded down to the ship’s infirmary to have his ribs properly treated. It’s hardly uncommon for the owners of a particularly well-made droid to brag about them, but to his ear it sounds… odd.
Less like an owner pleased with his possession and more like a younger brother proud of his elder.
He’s finished settling into his cabin, what few things he owns unpacked and stowed away, when something twigs in his brain.
Sang-er.
It couldn’t possibly be what he’s thinking… could it?
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The first week of Meng Yao’s temporary new job starts with a surprise and ends with a realization.
Given his prior experiences with employers and Sang-er’s clear dislike of him, he braces himself for the bottom of the heap and jobs like cleaning over-boiled acid out of engine cells. Instead, Sang-er puts him through a mentally grueling -and yet actually somewhat satisfying- examination of his skills, then unceremoniously shoves him straight into financial work.
Tracking numbers and allocating data has always been something he could do in his sleep if he so wished; though he doesn’t exactly let his mind wander, the tasks are easy enough that they allow him space to observe.
He wasn’t wrong, he decides, in pegging the relationship between his human boss and his mechanical one as being something akin to siblings.
Which really only lends further credence to the theory his other observations are steadily building.
Observations like how Sang-er is simply too advanced for a perso-core droid. He sifts and sorts information, skimming star maps and calculating alterations via hard-light illusions generated from his own body, and does it all with a speed and ease that should have overtaxed him a hundred times over. Small-droid cores simply aren’t designed to hold or process that much information that fast.
But a ship’s core, on the other hand…
When he’d been small, a friend of his mother’s had dreamed of one day leaving and joining the Qinghe fleets, drawn by the near legendary status of Nie Zhuyun and her ship Huaisang. A captain so sharp and daring and a ship so clever and nimble that people claimed she had somehow bonded her mind to the core to make them a perfect symbiosis.
How many of the tales his mother’s friend told were true were arguable, but what had been true was that when the Wen Chancellor had finally succeeded in his near singleminded obsession to have the ship destroyed, its core had never been found in the wreckage.
Nie Mingjue had said that Sang-er had been serving the fleet since before his birth, but that didn’t mean it had always been in the same body.
And then there is the second most important observation: Sang-er never leaves Baxia.
He’d been unsure about that one at first. Even though they are docked, most of the crew remain onboard a good portion of the time. But after a few days of watching, it has become clear that while even the Admiral occasionally goes out into the port for one bit of business or another, Sang-er stays on board at all times, sometimes with some gentle but pointed reminding on the Admiral’s part.
As if the droid is being purposely kept hidden.
And he can guess from whom. His father has a very good business relationship with Wen Ruohan; even though the ship is docked in a port that isn’t directly owned by the Jin family, there’s a fairly large presence of both Jin and Wen contingents. If he’s right, and Sang-er really is a reconstruction of Huaisang’s core-
He stiffens, then reaches out to stop the flow of numbers he’d been monitoring.
When he had gone to that first medical ward… there had been…
He closes his eyes and sucks in a sharp breath, then lets it out slowly.
"There a problem?" a nearby officer asks.
"No, sir. Just needed a moment for the eyes," Meng Yao says, and then gets back to work.
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His thoughts nag at him for the rest of the designated day hours and follow him into his bed that night. They’re still plucking at his nerves the next morning, annoying him enough that he barely touches the breakfast he would have gladly stolen -maybe even committed violence to get- from a rich man’s table not too long ago.
If he's right, then he has inadvertently picked up some information that would be extremely valuable to the Admiral and Sang-er.
But to use that information, he will have to do something he absolutely despises.
Tell everything.
There is no safety in full disclosure. Keeping things close to his chest had been the only way he’d survived the arduous journey between the port he’d grown up in and the central hub where his father resides.
But Sang-er has already proven very capable when it comes to checking up on those he does not trust. If he withholds anything that he overheard, and Sang-er finds out he’d done so, then being ousted from the ship is probably the best thing he could expect.
And… he... likes it here.
It’s hard to admit that, even just in his own mind. He’s only been employed on Baxia for a week.
And yet something in his heart just settles at the idea of staying here in a way he can’t remember feeling in years. The Admiral checks up on his wellbeing. His other crewmates treat him as his station befits. He’s comfortable in the jobs he’s been assigned. Even Sang-er -for all the droid’s aversion to him- judges his work fairly and takes his opinions into genuine consideration. Comparing the crew he’s found himself with to the tittering sycophants who’d taken such glee in watching his father reject him-
He bites his tongue to stop the flow of bitterness before it becomes overwhelming and clouds his thoughts.
The point is that, for the first time in a very long time, he has found himself a place he does not want to give up.
If that means having to lay all his cards on the table, then… then fine.
He reaches a point in his tasks that he can safely pause for lunch, but instead of going down to the dining hall, he goes looking for Sang-er.
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After more than a little unsure wandering and some eventual directions from a couple of helpful crewmates, Meng Yao finds the droid in question in one of the small-ship hangars, surrounded by a star map and several of their scout pilots.
For a moment, his breath catches in his throat.
In the dim lighting of the hangar, Sang-er's eyes and the geometric designs decorating his form glow brighter, mingling with the reflective light of the illusory stars against silvery skin. With one fingertip, he draws flight paths and points of interest, directing models of their ships less like he is ordering soldiers and more as if he is conducting dancers.
It’s hard not to stare, and in that moment he understands better some of the particulars of the information he’s about to relay.
Drawing up his nerve, he straightens his back and approaches the knot of people just in time for the lights to come back up and the star map to vanish into the palm of Sang-er’s hand. A couple of the younger scouts wave to him, drawing the droid’s attention in his direction.
“Please excuse me if I’m interrupting anything, but may we speak in private?” he asks quickly, before any potential judgements can be made.
Sang-er regards him silently, expression completely neutral, then tilts his head in acquiescence. “You’ve all got your assignments,” he says to the scouts. “See you in fourteen days.”
“Yes, sir!”
“Follow me,” Sang-er says as he turns on his heel, and Meng Yao obeys.
Their destination turns out to be the hangar manager’s office, or what would have been the hangar manager’s office if they didn’t have Sang-er. The doors close behind them with a swish and click, but Meng Yao barely hears it over his own heartbeat.
He swallows hard as he watches the droid lean against the desk.
Okay.
All cards on the table.
"Wen Ruohan knows that you're Huaisang."
Sang-er doesn’t flinch or stiffen or show any other reaction that would give away a human but, like their first meeting, Meng Yao feels the subtle shift around them. "Interesting. And you've come to this conclusion because…?"
It’s not an outright denial. No automatic accusations of wild imaginations or delusions or… anything like that. Just a quiet demand to show his work, like the evaluations before. Meng Yao can’t help but find it oddly soothing for this to be treated as nothing more than a basic report despite the severity of what he’s revealing.
“There’s a specific medical ward in the district of Koi Port that most of the residents pretend doesn’t exist. At the time I was… dismissed, it was the only one I could afford to visit. One of the other patients there was complaining that a job for the Wens had been taken from him and handed over to shifters employed by the Jins.”
That gets a visible reaction as Sang-er’s hands clench on the edge of the desk he’s leaning on.
It’s an entirely understandable response. Shifters are the worst of the worst when it comes to orchestrating and carrying out the theft of high-end droids, and their services don’t come cheap at all. For someone like Wen Ruohan, who already has so much power of his own, to enlist them from another company…
Well, the implication is clear.
“Go on,” Sang-er says, and Meng Yao doesn’t fail to notice the tension that’s entered his voice.
“He didn’t specifically describe the target, but he did mention it was aboard the flagship of the Qinghe fleet, and that the backer had ordered it to be captured fully intact, or else. No offense to any of the other droids here, but there’s no one other than you who could possibly garner that kind of demand. And no other reason why Wen Ruohan would make it.”
“I see.” Sang-er’s expression still hasn’t changed, but the words are decidedly even more clipped. “And what price would a Jin expect for information like this?”
There’s the suspicion that he’s been waiting for.
All cards on the table, Meng Yao reminds himself for what may be the tenth time. Or the twentieth, he admittedly has lost track. If he doesn’t remain honest now, he stands to lose everything.
He allows himself one more nervous swallow before answering. “I don’t know… probably something obscene, honestly. I want to be extended to a full contract.”
“And?”
“That’s it.”
Sang-er blinks at him, unable to catch the surprise from flickering across his face quickly enough, though it’s quickly schooled away. “That’s it,” he repeats, arching one eyebrow disbelievingly.
“You’ve already given me nearly everything I was looking for when I originally went to meet my father. I want to keep that,” Meng Yao says. “The rest… I will come to terms with eventually.”
There’s no immediate response, and the silence stretches uncomfortably between them as Sang-er appraises his words and everything else. It’s hard not to squirm under the stare.
Then Sang-er’s expression visibly softens, and the sight nearly knocks the wind out of him, it catches him so off guard .
Oh, that’s just not fair.
He quickly recovers, standing straight as Sang-er pushes himself away from the desk and walks past him.
“Well, come on, then,” the droid says, and he absolutely does not shiver at the new warmth in his voice.
“Where are we going now?”
“To give my recommendation to Mingjue and have you moved to more permanent quarters. And then we will start planning to deal with this new development.”
We will start planning, he says.
Meng Yao finds he very much likes the sound of that.
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this is a xue yang & meng yao appreciation post!
look at this innocent little puppy! hand what over? what yin iron? i’m just here to murder an entire clan for petty revenge, your honor
he’s so pretty. and way too happy for someone who’s just been caught. makes me wonder if xue yang just doesn’t care what happens to him, now that he’s had his revenge, or if he’s letting himself be caught to give the wen clan an excuse to do a little murdering as well
i think this was when i started really paying attention to meng yao, the first time i watched this episode
that’s...not an innocent glance. you can see his little mind calculating how exactly to take advantage of this situation
and xue yang is doing the exact same thing. that, or he’s flirting really hard. or both. it’s probably both, who says you can’t combine business and pleasure?
i love meng yao’s expression here. he’s just ordered the gate of the unclean realm to be opened, and it looks like he’s enjoying this rare moment of importance and control to its fullest
...before he’s inevitably humiliated again. don’t be fooled, captain. he may look cowed, but he’s plotting your murder as you speak. with the smirking scoundrel in the background
i love how xue yang takes notice of this exchange and later no doubt uses it to his advantage. i can’t remember if it’s established in the series what exactly transpired between xue yang and meng yao during this time, exactly how they started to work together. i think not? anyway, i like to imagine it was xue yang who proposed he could help meng yao get revenge and move up in the world, in exchange for his freedom. i like to imagine meng yao at first refusing and only making up his mind when wen chao shows up
he’s strategizing! and also smirking at huaisang goading the enemy from behind his brother’s back. but immediately after this meng yao gets a worried thinky look on his pretty little face, and then makes a decision to go check on xue yang
has he, at this point, decided on helping xue yang escape? or is he still uncertain? in any case, it seems like his plan wasn’t quite fully formed, or just didn’t go as smoothly as he’d hoped, because i don’t think he meant for nie-zongzhu to see him kill the captain
(i have a headcanon that it was xue yang who actually managed to convince the captain to help him escape, which gave meng yao the perfect opportunity to kill the captain with a somewhat clear conscience, even if he knew of or had agreed to xue yang’s plan beforehand)
he’s been stabbed and nie-zongzhu is probably going to kill him, but nevermind that, cloud recesses has been attacked and his beloved zewu-jun is in danger!
and then the break-up scene! it’s so painful!
i’m really intrigued by meng yao swearing everything he says is true. that he killed the captain not because he insulted him but because the captain kept disputing his superior rank (the sub “takes my credit as his” is probably wrong). that the captain had let xue yang escape. that he had no choice
meng yao is being so convincingly miserable in this scene that i’m inclined to believe he’s actually speaking his version of the truth. which is why, i think, he faces his death so serenely
gods i love this shot. he’s so ready to die. he’s tried to live a good life, to prove himself worthy of respect (and love), and even if it wasn’t enough, even if no one else believes him, at least he himself knows he did his best
and then nie-zongzhu spares his life, and it’s suddenly much harder to believe in that when he has to keep on living with the choices he’s made
#my love for this absolute onion of a man knows no bounds#he has so many layers!#and xue yang is just delightful#in how he somehow manages to stumble into a bizarre form of self-revenge#meng yao#xue yang#my screencaps#the untamed
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Spilled drinks and comfy sweaters
This is for @renazeros who very rudely came into my messages with an Xicheng idea too good to pass up on. <3<3
Jiang Cheng hates dinners at the Lans. He doesn’t know how he always gets roped into these things, because apart from being Wei Wuxian’s brother, he has nothing to do with them.
Wei Wuxian is the one who snatched himself a Lan, so he should be the only one who has to attend these things. Jiang Yanli certainly never has to go, and Jiang Cheng doesn’t understand why the same isn’t true for him.
He’s tired of Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji acting like every minute of every day is their goddamn honeymoon, tired of Nie Mingjue and Meng Yao glaring daggers at him for reasons Jiang Cheng doesn’t understand, and he’s especially tired of Lan Qiren scrutinizing his every motion and word.
The only person who makes these dinners even the tiniest bit bearable is Lan Xichen, and Jiang Cheng refuses to think about why that might be.
There is no way Lan Xichen could ever be interested in someone like him, not with successful and beautiful people Like Meng Yao and Nie Mingjue present, and statistically it’s very unlikely that two Jiang family members should manage to snatch up a Lan.
So, no. Not thinking about that.
Instead, Jiang Cheng tries to figure out why the hell Meng Yao and Nie Mingjue keep glaring at him.
Both have a very different feel to them; Nie Mingjue’s glares seem to be more a warning than anything else, while Jiang Cheng gets the impression that he should drop dead from Meng Yao’s glare.
He refuses to, of course, but it only seems to enrage Meng Yao further.
“Hey,” Jiang Cheng lowly says to Wei Wuxian, when he catches him without Lan Wangji for a change. “Do you know what’s up with Meng Yao? He seems ready to kill me.”
“Who isn’t?” Wei Wuxian jokes, but he gets serious a second later. “I noticed that, too, actually. I don’t know. I asked Lan Zhan but he doesn’t seem to know either. But he thinks you should be on the look-out for Meng Yao, Lan Zhan doesn’t trust him at all.”
“Reassuring,” Jiang Cheng mutters and turns his eyes back to Meng Yao, who is already watching him. “He’s going to murder me,” Jiang Cheng goes on and Wei Wuxian pats his shoulder.
“If that happens, you can at least be reassured that Lan Xichen will be inconsolable,” Wei Wuxian tells him with a wink and before Jiang Cheng can do anything more than take a surprised breath, Wei Wuxian bounds over to Lan Wangji.
Immediately Jiang Cheng becomes overly aware of eyes on him, and he busies himself with getting something to drink.
“You seem troubled,” Lan Xichen suddenly says from besides Jiang Cheng, and he only jumps slightly in surprise. “Is everything alright?”
“Everything is good,” Jiang Cheng replies with a small smile, unwilling to explain to Lan Xichen that his friends leave him unsettled. “How are you doing?” he asks, because for all that Lan Xichen is the only reason he even comes to these things, Jiang Cheng didn’t have a lot of chances to speak with him yet.
“I’m doing very well,” Lan Xichen tells him with a huge smile and Jiang Cheng’s stomach swoops, like it always does when Lan Xichen seems this happy.
It’s a problem.
“Great,” Jiang Cheng says and they turn around to go to the table, when someone slams into Jiang Cheng and spills their red wine all over his shirt.
“Fuck,” Jiang Cheng breathes out, as the unpleasant feeling of wet and cold clothes sticking to his chest spreads out and he glares at Meng Yao.
“Oh, gods,” Meng Yao says. “I’m terribly sorry about this,” he goes on, but Jiang Cheng can see the calculating glint in his eyes, and he just knows that this wasn’t an accident. “It seems like you should go home, you’d catch a cold with a shirt this wet.”
“It seems like it,” Jiang Cheng presses out, but he relaxes when Lan Xichen presses a warm hand to the small of his back.
“You can take one of my shirts,” Lan Xichen tells him and swiftly leads Jiang Cheng away from the dining room and deeper into the house.
“You don’t have to,” Jiang Cheng tries, because really, at this point he is more than ready to just go home, manners be damned.
“I want to,” Lan Xichen reassures him. “It’s no hardship. And besides,” he tacks on as he leads Jiang Cheng into his own bedroom, “dinners without you are always terribly boring.”
Lan Xichen isn’t looking at Jiang Cheng as he says it, for which Jiang Cheng is glad, because he flushes bright red at that.
He watches Lan Xichen go through his wardrobe, and he’s still deciding if it’s worth it to tell him not to bother, when Lan Xichen already offers him a soft looking sweater.
“This should work,” Lan Xichen gently says and Jiang Cheng can’t say no to him so he takes the offered piece of clothing.
“Can I change somewhere? I should probably also clean up, at least a little bit,” Jiang Cheng says as he tries to unstick his shirt from his chest and Lan Xichen gets oddly flustered.
“Oh, yeah, of course, the bathroom is just through there,” he tells him, pointing to a door and Jiang Cheng quickly walks into it.
He takes off his shirt, cleans his chest as best as he can, and then slides on Lan Xichen’s sweater.
It’s slightly too big on him—the collar a little loose, the sleeves a little bit too long—but it’s warm and comfy, and Jiang Cheng refuses to admit that he smelled the fabric.
He imagines this must be what it feels like to get a hug from Lan Xichen.
Jiang Cheng shakes his head at that thought--how much more stupid can he get--and leaves the bathroom.
Lan Xichen is waiting for him, and his eyes seem to catch on the sleeves of the sweater, because he blinks a few times and doesn’t move at all.
“It’s a little bit big,” Jiang Cheng admits, playing with the hem of the sweater, and his voice seems to shake Lan Xichen out of whatever stupor he found himself in.
“It looks good on you,” Lan Xichen admits, and then promptly turns around. “We should probably get back to dinner now.”
Jiang Cheng stares after him when he practically flees his own bedroom, and he wonders just how long it will take him to get that compliment out of his head.
Dinner after that is interesting, to say the least.
Nie Mingjue is still throwing him glances, but they lost a lot of their force and he even smiled at Jiang Cheng once. Lan Qiren seems strangely pleased and exchanges more than the bare minimum of pleasantries with Jiang Cheng. Meng Yao on the other hand seems to only be more angry than before and his glares only gained in intensity, if such a thing is even possible.
Lan Xichen himself is constantly at Jiang Cheng’s side and Jiang Cheng catches him throwing him secret glances more than once.
It makes Jiang Cheng nervous, causes him to play with the sleeves of the sweater, but that only seems to make it worse.
Jiang Cheng doesn’t know what to feel about any of it, so he excuses himself halfway through dinner to go to the bathroom.
He spends all of his time there trying to calm himself down, reminding himself that it doesn’t mean anything, and breathing in Lan Xichen’s scent that’s clinging to the sweater.
When he finally leaves the bathroom, only a little bit more stable than when he went into it, Nie Mingjue is waiting for him.
“Oh, I’m sorry,” Jiang Cheng mumbles out, and steps to the side, but Nie Mingjue doesn’t make a move to enter the bathroom.
“Listen,” he starts, and dread already settles in Jiang Cheng’s stomach. “I know you’re worried about Meng Yao but he won’t hurt you,” Nie Mingjue says and while the statement in itself is confusing enough, Jiang Cheng also doesn’t believe him.
Which must be obvious on his face, because Nie Mingjue winces.
“Okay, he won’t hurt you seriously. For all that he is petty and jealous, he couldn’t hurt Xichen like that.”
“I—have no idea what you’re talking about,” Jiang Cheng admits with a frown, because why should it be his problem that Meng Yao is jealous?
“You’re wearing Xichen’s favourite sweater,” Nie Mingjue tells him, and Jiang Cheng flushes at that.
“He gave it to me,” he defensively says and Nie Mingjue nods.
“Yeah, he did. When a fully equipped guest room is right over there,” he says and points towards a door at the end of the hall. “Clothes and all included.”
Jiang Cheng blinks at that revelation and when he turns back towards Nie Mingjue he finds that the other man has already gone back to the dining room.
Jiang Cheng can’t help himself; he goes to the guest room and opens the closet, only to find shirts and sweaters in all sizes and colours.
There really isn’t a single reason Lan Xichen should have offered him his own.
Jiang Cheng must have spent more time here than he thought, because Lan Xichen shows up after a while.
“Hey,” he awkwardly says and Jiang Cheng whirls around.
“There are clothes here,” he says, and Lan Xichen grimaces. “There is no reason at all for you to offer me your own clothes,” he goes on and Lan Xichen has the decency to flush at that.
“I know, I’m sorry,” he mumbles and Jiang Cheng narrows his eyes at him.
“Did you put Meng Yao up to this?” Jiang Cheng demands to know and now Lan Xichen goes frantic.
“No! I mean, he did it because of me, but I didn’t put him up to that!”
“Explain,” Jiang Cheng orders him, because he’s getting all kinds of mixed signals here, and he doesn’t know how to handle any of them.
He needs Lan Xichen to clarify this.
“Meng Yao spilled his wine on you because he’s jealous,” Lan Xichen admits.
“Of what?”
“He confessed to me a few weeks back,” Lan Xichen says and Jiang Cheng doesn’t like the sinking feeling in his stomach at all.
“And?”
“And I told him I’m in love with someone else,” Lan Xichen goes on.
Jiang Cheng wants to ask what the hell any of that has to do with him, but before he finds his voice, Lan Xichen goes on.
“I told him I’m in love with you,” Lan Xichen admits, and he looks down at his feet, so he doesn’t see how wide Jiang Cheng’s eyes go at that.. “He didn’t take that very well, to be honest, and he hoped you would just leave tonight after he spilled the wine on you. It was on purpose.”
“And instead you gave me your favourite sweater,” Jiang Cheng weakly says and Lan Xichen’s head snaps up.
“How do you know that?”
“Nie Mingjue,” Jiang Cheng gives back and suddenly it clicks for him. “He’s been trying to give me the shovel talk through glares,” Jiang Cheng says and smacks his forehead. “That’s why his glares felt a lot more friendly than Meng Yao’s did.”
“I’m so sorry they are behaving like that,” Lan Xichen says and Jiang Cheng takes a deep breath.
There will be enough time to focus on Meng Yao’s and Nie Mingjue’s behaviour later—and Lan Qiren, too, Jiang Cheng guesses—but right now, only one thing is important.
“You’re in love with me,” Jiang Cheng says, a little bit dazed by the whole thing, and his heart beats faster when Lan Xichen blushes at that.
“Yes.”
“And you gave me your favourite sweater,” Jiang Cheng goes on.
“Yes,” Lan Xichen repeats, and then shuffles his feet in the most adorable way imaginable. “I’m sorry, I just--you look good in my clothes,” Lan Xichen admits, voice so low Jiang Cheng almost doesn’t hear him, but he does and it’s enough to make him smile.
“I like wearing your clothes,” he admits and raises the collar to take a deep breath. “It still smells like you,” he goes on and it seems to be enough to jolt Lan Xichen out of his shyness, because his head snaps up and he takes one long look at Jiang Cheng, before he marches forward, frames Jiang Cheng’s face with his hands and pulls him in for a kiss.
Jiang Cheng is frozen for a second, because this is quite unexpected, but he’s nothing if not quick on his feet, and so it’s not long before he slings his arms around Lan Xichen’s neck and leans fully into the kiss.
Jiang Cheng isn’t sure if he’ll ever get over the embarrassment of Lan Wangji clearing his throat at the door, ordering them back to the table, but Meng Yao’s face when he and Lan Xichen show back up in the dining room holding hands more than makes up for that.
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It’s time to think about him...Nie Huaisang.
Alright, but really! Huaisang is arguably one of the best characters in mdzs (well, actually, you could argue that any one of the characters are the best, but that is besides the point) and one of the most complex. Think about it, for a long minute.
When we first meet him, we’re introduced to the flighty second son of the Nie Sect, who is a disappointment to his brother and refuses to cultivate or actively learn, instead doing ‘trivial’ things, such as painting on his fans, etc. He’s a troublemaker who has a head full of frivolity. Nobody considers him smart or takes him seriously, and he is perfectly happy to be just what they think of him.
We don’t see much of Huaisang during the whole Sunshot Campaign arc. His brother is out on the battlefield, but he’s been sent far away, out of danger. He loses touch with Wei Wuxian and still refuses to cultivate. His relationship with his brother is increasingly rocky as they continue to argue before and after the war about what Huaisang chooses to do with his skills—which is not what Mingjue wants, i.e. cultivation.
And then his brother dies.
This is the catalyst. (And if you’ve watched Fatal Journey, the end perfectly depicts this moment.) The moment Huaisang realizes Jin Guangyao is, in fact, behind his brother’s death.
This is where everything changes. Before, Huaisang was perfectly content to sit back and let things play out. He was fine with how people perceived him, because life was easier that way. Nothing was really required of him, since everyone considered him somewhat idiotic (consider, for a moment, that Huaisang was really clever enough to actively act not clever, not even slipping up in the slightest, which actually shows how clever he is). However, now, Huaisang must continue to put up a front while scheming on the sidelines and plotting behind backs.
And so here we have Nie Huaisang, unexpectedly thrust into the position as Sect Leader, called Head Shaker because of how many things he doesn’t know, planning Jin Guangyao’s demise. You have to understand how long Huaisang’s plan took. How intricate his takedown of Guangyao really is. The amount of variables he had to align. And this is really where Huaisang’s true colors come out. Because, if Huaisang had been raised in a sect that wasn’t Qinghe Nie, it is likely that he would have been recognized. He is a schemer, a planner, a spy. His mind is practically made to be an advisor, a tactician. However, what Qinghe Nie values is not the mind, but the body (and I mean, they really don’t value their mind—they all Qi deviate in the end); therefore, Huaisang grows up feeling useless because he’s not skilled at sabre work and, honestly, not motivated to try his hand at such an art either.
So now Nie Huaisang sets his plan in motion, and it is a plan that requires a strong mind and a strong determination. For a man driven with revenge for his brother (I could ramble about the Nie brother’s relationship, but you all should already know how deep that one goes), the only family he had left in the world. He purposefully approaches Mo Xuanyu and manipulates him into performing the Soul Summoning Curse (not that Xuanyu wasn’t already at the edge). He, somehow, terrorized the young disciples in order to herd them to Yi City. However, all these are carefully calculated risks. Huaisang releases his brother’s arm on Mo Village riding on the fact that Wei Wuxian will be there and that Hanguang-Jun would come to support the juniors.
Despite setbacks, Huaisang’s plan does succeed. His brother’s body is recovered, Jin Guangyao is destroyed in both a literal and figurative sense, and things are back to a strange sort of normal. Yes, there are repercussions, Lan Xichen for one, but no one of importance has died and Huaisang’s brother can finally rest in peace. He should, by all right, be fulfilled and happy. At the end of episode fifty of The Untamed, he touches Meng Yao’s hat, and gets his blood on his fingers. His facial expression looks sad, as if he regrets. However, we don’t actually know how satisfied Huaisang really is, partially because the best part (depending on how you look at it) is that he never gets caught.
At least not outrightly. Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji suspect, and it seems Lan Xichen doubts Huaisang’s motives, but none of them have solid evidence that could prove Nie Huaisang was behind the whole thing.
What I can’t get over is the fact that Nie Huaisang wasn’t just a brilliant minded person acting lazy. He was, in fact, a very clever person pretending to be the least clever person there was, and he was so good at hiding all that potential that it never even crossed anyone’s minds that he could possibly have brains. He’s calculating and intelligent and cautious and loyal, loyal to his brother and loyal to Wei Wuxian (despite the fact that the rest of the world turned their back on him, Nie Huaisang never actively renounced his friendship with Wei Wuxian, and one can assume that he did still like Wei Wuxian and stand up for him, especially since he brought him back and inadvertently gave him a second chance at life). He’s such a morally gray character—he has a big heart, but he’s shown himself to also be ruthless in certain circumstances, which stem from his values. While Huaisang does think of the larger world, he first and foremostly does act in his own interests and for his own plan, which is why he’s able to make sacrifices he considers necessary, such as Mo Xuanyu.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is Nie Huaisang. Love and adore him.
#the untamed#chen qing ling#mo dao zu shi#mdzs#nie huaisang#nie mingjue#jin guangyao#wei wuxian#anyways i just think he’s important#and i didn’t say all i wanted to but it is two am give me a break ok#like about how he’s very morally gray#and how he and jgy foil each other#but then this would turn into a jgy/nhs post and..too long#my thoughts
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