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Just saw someone refer to the literal footage of the pogrom in Southern Israel as “Zionist Propaganda” so like. Get blocked. Fuckstick.
You antisemitic monsters cannot wail for “evidence” of the atrocities committed by Hamas because you refuse to believe it happened despite the seemingly endless accounts (and yet you were willing to accept that Israel bombed a hospital without a second thought) and then refer to the video evidence TAKEN BY FUCKING HAMAS ITSELF as “Zionist Propaganda”.
At this point ANY good faith I had in you fucking antisemitic shitstains is gone. At least the Nazis are up front about the fact they see me as subhuman. You whine and wail about needing more proof and then when we have it, you claim it’s propaganda.
Just call me a kike and leave like I know you want to. Just be honest about the fact that your care for Palestinians only extends to the length that it allows you to celebrate Jewish death.
We will NEVER trust you again. Ever.
#antisemitism#i/p#I am fucking livid#never forget my ass you monsters REVEL in our suffering#i will never forget this glee at Jewish blood and I will NEVER forgive any of you#you all claimed to support me when I was queer and disabled#but the second I’m a Jew then I deserve to die#controversial opinion but imo leftist antisemites are worse than the Nazis rn#becaus at least the Nazis are OPEN about hating me#leftist ghouls hide that shit so they can use the movement for a marginalized people’s freedom#as a shield when they start spewing their antisemitic racism
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i posted this on twitter also but it’s still eating at me. i’m so fucking embarrassed to be jewish rn. i dont want to be associated with this ongoing bullshit from israel. why do we need our own state. theyre just making every jew across the globe look bad in general even though many of us are conflicted about zionism and the legitimacy of israel as a state
people have hated jews throughout history for no fuckin reason but now israel exists but now its like. GIVING people reasons to hate us as a group. note that i DON’T conflate zionism with jewishness, but a lot of people in the world don’t know the difference because theyre uninformed and been dripfed cultural antisemitic tropes their whole life and that’s the scary part is them falsely putting two and two together. like what the fuck israel stop youre just putting fuel on the fire for people around the world to hate an entire group of historically persecuted people if youre being this shitty with your insane colonialism and apartheid like……I Want No Fuckin Part Of This. you’re spelling our own doom. you cant just swoop in and go “mine now” and then oppress the people you took land from under a regime without my blood boiling at the injustice no matter WHO you are. even if my lineage is tied to you. so when news outlets support israel it doesn’t feel like they have the best interest of jews as a people in mind. it’s in the interest of a zionist ethnostate and whatever that christian zionism belief is about the jewish people returning to the holy land as prerequisite for the second coming of jesus. its not like they care about us as a dispersed ethnocultural group, it’s all for that religious narrative that a bunch of people in the US are backing.
saying you want all jews to die is antisemitic. beating someone up because they’re jewish and no other reason without knowing their views is antisemitic. criticizing human rights violations perpetrated by israel and the belief that one group deserves more rights another is not antisemitic. and the fact that israel has the ability to pull that antisemitism card in response to criticisms of the violations they commit because their state is the “jewish homeland” drives me fucking insane. take fucking accountability for your actions. and yes, there do exist full-on anti-jewish groups in the middle east that go beyond hatred of israel’s policies and existence as a state and i’m tired of people pretending there aren’t in fear of appearing to seem like they support the state of israel. on the other side of things many people overestimate this by fearmongering and saying EVERY arab is out to get jews worldwide, telling people like me “they want YOU dead”. this is not the belief every person in the middle east and it really rubs me the wrong way that people group millions of individuals into all-encompassing lumps like this. many people there do understand nuance of this political situation.
even if i have that “right of return” by israeli law or whatever, i don’t feel obliged to it; it does not register as fair. why do i have a “right of return” when i’ve never even been there in the first place while palestinians who have homes there can’t return to them? what’s the basis for that? substituting objective reality with an imaginary reality? i don’t think like that. i can hypothetically come and go whenever i please but palestinians are severely limited in mobility? what makes me more entitled to that land than the people who lived there for centuries? nothing that comes from natural law thats for sure. it’s all artificial and inflated.
but at the same time i also dont want to be the target of antisemitism and caught in the fray just for being ethnically jewish. once people start calling for the genocide of entire groups we’ve got issues (and you better believe this absolutely applies to the palestinian victims in gaza too), because people who dissent to the violence perpetrated by the loudest are caught in there with the people who are perpetrating the violence. lack of nuance. people conflating israel and its zionist apartheid policies with jewish ethnicity and culture worldwide. other people conflating being terrorist anti-jew with muslims worldwide (like that 6-year old palestinian-american boy that was just stabbed to death in chicago). scary times man. but as a jew i can’t just opt out of this if it’s how i was born as. i don’t have control over that. but i can control what i think and what my beliefs are
#israel palestine conflict#israel#palestine#what i feel is right most strongly resonates with secular humanist philosophy#never really found the right way to explain my worldview until i read about it
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since zionists are coming to whine in my dms that I’m so mean for supporting Palestinians who “had it coming for being terrorists” (yeah, zionists are definitely not racist, huh?), let me make this very simple.
Let’s say your great-great grandparents built a home on some land. They built it by hand, and your family has lived there for generations, fixing it up as old things needed renovations or just stopped working or they just wanted to make it compatible with new things like electricity when that came out. You grew up there, your parents grew up there, and your grandparents grew up there, and now you have children of your own starting to grow up there too.
You loved that house, it’s the only home you’ve ever known and years of loving care had made it beautiful, it even has a garden that your great grandparents planted olive trees in, and of course by now it’s a flourishing orchard. Your family are the only ones who had ever lived in that house, but your family had become quite diverse throughout the decades as children grew up and married, some new family members looked and lived quite like you, and some looked and lived differently, and you thought little of it because, why would you?
Then one day a stranger comes by with a feed to your family’s home, claiming the government had settled a deal that since this stranger’s great-great-great-great grandparents first owned that land and were forced off of it by people who looked a bit like you. The stranger gives you an ultimatum to leave the land immediately because they consider it to rightfully belong to them, or die. Some of your family flees, you don’t blame them, but you stand your ground as best as you can, but the stranger has guns, and strong friends to supply them. They kill your mother, blind your father, kidnap many of your siblings and cousins and so you take your children and anyone who’s left and flee to the far side of the property, on the half still allowed to them by the government’s ruling. For a time it’s fine, but the stranger wasn’t satisfied, and finds you again in the new home you were building. See, the way the stranger sees it, their ancestors had originally owned ALL of that property, so they figured that was what they were owed. You plead with them to let you stay, or even just to not hurt your family. Your pleas are denied.
This time they killed your children. They killed your cousins. They killed most of your siblings. Your family and your home, all gone in front of your eyes.
Do you think you would still care whether or not the stranger was right about who owned that plot of land first, or would you perhaps care more about what they just did to everything you held dear?
Zionists like to say “well hamas should have never ever taken hostages” and feign ignorance as to why hamas is gaining support at an exponential rate.
It’s not that complicated. If your options are stand there and get shot or get a gun and shoot back, are you really going to pretend to be confused by most people going with the second option?
No. You aren’t. You want to spin the narrative that people calling for a free Palestine are terrorists who want to see the death of all jews and some nebulous “scary muslim takeover”, but I know you’re not that dumb. I know you've seen videos posted by the IDF’s own beating, kidnapping, and killing civilians. I know you’re not stupid enough to honestly believe those are all terrorists, even the children. I know most of you aren’t even under the delusion hamas is just like ISIS.
This is deliberate. Genocide is easiest when the aggressor plays victim to try to say it’s self defense, but here’s the thing—
It doesn’t matter how many times you claim otherwise, hind did not deserve to die. If she was the ONLY child the IDF killed intentionally, that would be unforgivable, but given there are tens of thousands of children that have lost life or limb at the hands of the IDF, it’s indefensible. It’s murder. A child trapped in a car with her family’s bodies after the IDF attacked being used to lure out aid workers and kill them all at once is just evidence you have lost your humanity. I hate that I even have to only talk about the children because you think every adult in Palestine is secretly an evil terrorist, it’s a lot harder to say that about a child with an age in the single digits, but many of you still try to anyway.
Racism is a hell of a thing, and some of you are a little too drawn in by the idea of killing all the brown people in a region so you can build beach resorts and theme parks.
If Palestinian land is so sacred and divinely promised to the Israelis to the point the Israeli government considers all rain fall to be explicitly property of israel, why are you taunting it with the blood of the innocent and desperate?
I don’t know, I think if anyone but a Zionist tried to justify bombing hospitals and dressing as aid workers to kill as many of an ethnic group as possible, people may be a bit reasonably against that, but for some reason it’s fine as long as the group committing the genocide has enough oppression points stocked up from previous incidents.
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For the apotheosis of his entire “poisoning of the blood” campaign, Donald Trump has planned a spectacular extravaganza in Madison Square Garden on 27 October, a week before the election. When JD Vance sings Trump’s fulsome praises to introduce him, his ominous tribute will not inspire comparison to the night in the Garden of 19 May 1962, when Marilyn Monroe sang Happy Birthday, Mr President to John F Kennedy.
Trump’s climactic rally will not be in the spirit of any past presidential event ever held there. His gathering for the great racist replacement theory will be the culmination of his spiraling descent since the Charlottesville rally in 2017 when neo-Nazis chanted, “Jews will not replace us.” “Fine people on both sides,” Trump said then. Now, at his night at the Garden, Trump will revive the memory of the infamous American Nazi mass rally held there on 20 February 1939 through his reflected Hitlerian rhetoric.
In the last week, Trump has pledged to deploy the military against “the enemy within”, domestic opponents he claims are worse than foreign adversaries – those Hitler called “Feind des Volkes”, or “enemy of the people”. Trump has threatened to destroy CBS, ABC and the New York Times. About ABC, after it conducted the debate in which he performed disastrously, he called to “take away their license”. After Kamala Harris’s 60 Minutes interview, having refused his own, he tweeted on 10 October: “TAKE AWAY THE CBS LICENSE.” About the Times, he said on 9 October: “Wait until you see what I’m going to do with them.” He has singled out by name journalists for the Times and the New Yorker as “FAKE OBAMA LOVING ‘JOURNALISTS”. At every rally he denounces the “fake news”, a drumbeat for years, echoing Hitler’s pejorative slur, “die Lügenpresse” – “the lying press”.
Trump traveled on 11 October to Aurora, Colorado, where he claimed a Venezuelan gang had seized control, “scum” and “animals” who have “invaded and conquered” and “infected” the town, a description dismissed as false by its Republican mayor. “We have to clean out our country,” said Trump. His language represented the Nazi idea of “Rassenhygiene” – “race cleansing” that required purification, not an academic interest in genetics but a program of eugenics for designating inferior races to be isolated or eliminated.
As Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf, “A people that fails to preserve the purity of its racial blood thereby destroys the unity of the soul of the nation in all its manifestations. A disintegrated national character is the inevitable consequence of a process of disintegration in the blood.”
The former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, retired general Mark Milley, according to Bob Woodward in his new book War, told the veteran journalist: “No one has ever been as dangerous to this country as Donald Trump. Now I realize he’s a total fascist. He is the most dangerous person to this country.” Trump had stated that for Milley’s communication with his counterparts in China on January 6 to reassure them that the US military was stable, he deserved “DEATH” – to be executed.
On 14 October, retired general Mike Flynn – Trump’s former national security adviser, whom he pardoned for failing to register as a foreign agent and obstructing justice – was asked at a Christian nationalist rally for Trump whether he would preside over military tribunals in a second Trump term to “not only drain the swamp, but imprison the swamp, and on a few occasions, execute the swamp”. “Believe me,” Flynn replied, “the gates of hell – my hell – will be unleashed.”
Trump has been inevitably drawn to the Garden, in the city that made and unmade him. He is irreversibly entrapped in his endless neurotic syndrome of desperately seeking approval there that he constantly repels and success he inexorably undermines, a cycle of failure, rejection and humiliation. He wants New York to love him unreservedly, but his relationship with the city has been one long unrequited romance. His true love affair has always and only been with himself. When he does not receive the adoration he feels he deserves, he hates New York. Then, he tries to win its love again by performing a disgusting act, which, when he is predictably rejected, triggers his anger once again. And, then, he engages in gestures of infantile defiance, like holding a Nazi-esque rally. Trying to show himself triumphant over the city, he invites its scorn once again, and again, and again. He never comprehends that he is the cause of his continuing narcissistic injuries.
Trump’s rally, through the rhyme of history, will be a rebuke to the greatest campaign speech delivered by Franklin D Roosevelt, which, though given 88 years ago in the Garden on 31 October 1936, rings remarkably contemporary, a speech for “the restoration of American democracy” and its “preservation”.
“We have not come this far without a struggle and I assure you we cannot go further without a struggle,” FDR said. “We know now that government by organized money is just as dangerous as government by organized mob. Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me – and I welcome their hatred.”
Three years after FDR spoke at the Garden, another rally was held there, on 20 February 1939, under the sponsorship of the German American Bund, raising the slogan of “America First”, to advance the great replacement theory that Jews and other “inferior races” were displacing white Aryans. The Nazis claimed the mantle of true Americanism and Christian nationalism. Swastikas framed a gigantic portrait of George Washington as the backdrop to the stage. From the balcony hung a banner: “Stop Jewish Domination of Christian America.” “Wake up!” shouted the Führer of the Bund, Fritz Kuhn, “you, Aryan, Nordic and Christians, to demand that our government be returned to the people who founded it!”
Gerhard Wilhelm Kunze, the Bund’s public relations director, declared that white supremacy was the essential basis of the nation. “The spirit which opened the west and built our country is the spirit of the militant white man,” he said, citing racial segregation and immigration quotas as its bulwarks. “It has then always been very much American to protect the Aryan character of this nation.”
In 2019, a seven-minute documentary about the Nazi rally of 1939, A Night at the Garden, was nominated for an Academy Award. To promote it, a 30-second TV ad was produced with the tagline: “It Can Happen Here.” The line was a reference to Sinclair Lewis’s 1935 novel, It Can’t Happen Here, about a populist demagogue defeating FDR and imposing a fascist regime. Lewis’s wife, the famous journalist Dorothy Thompson, a columnist for the New York Herald Tribune, who had reported on the rise of Hitler, pointedly attended the Nazi rally. “I saw an exact duplicate of it in the Berlin Sports Palast in 1931,” she wrote.
When the film distributor of A Night at the Garden sought to buy time for a spot on Fox News, its CEO, Suzanne Scott, rejected it as “not appropriate for our air”. After the 2020 election, during Trump’s ramping up to the January 6 insurrection, she ordered that Fox News suppress factchecking his lies because it was “bad for business”.
Now, in his announcement of his night at the Garden, Trump advertised a clipped version of the replacement theory, declaring that New York was “reeling” from “Kamala’s reckless open-border policies”, “flooding” the city with criminal “illegal migrants”. For nearly a $1m contribution to attend the event, the top tier, donors are promised an “Ultra MAGA Experience”, details to follow.
Trump’s Maga rally will be the first time since the 1939 Nazi rally that the same themes of the replacement theory will echo in the Garden. But his closing argument is more than Nazi cosplay. He cannot help but reveal his deepest desire to be loved and then to fling the middle finger to the city whose unconditional admiration he has sought since he first crossed the Queensboro Bridge.
Trump’s permanent physical move to Palm Beach after his failed coup in 2020 has not transformed him into a contented Florida Man. To the inveterate New Yorker, the Sunshine state is strictly for snowbirds, God’s waiting room for shuffleboarders. Mar-a-Lago, his winter escape, has become his unnatural embittering palace-in-exile. Florida represents disgrace to Trump.
Trump’s emotional journey back to the White House must travel through New York. He has nothing but contempt and indifference for Washington. He despises policy, flaunts his ignorance and detests anyone who has ever tried to temper him, from four-star generals to Republican congressional leaders. He wants the pomp without the circumstance. January 6 played out Trump’s true view of the capital.
Trump plots his night at the Garden as the climax of his comeback tour. He may have been president, but never top of the heap. Roy Cohn could tell him how to skirt the law and ingratiate himself with the mob, but Cohn was not a Virgil to guide his protege to respectability. Trump’s lowlife publicity antics, tutored by Cohn, made him into one of the revolving cast of characters populating tabloid trash. The larger the headline of the sordid story about himself, the bigger Trump’s delusion that kitsch burnished his class. He was always crestfallen when his frolics did not win his admission into the club.
Trump has only been truly comfortable strutting in his old New York, conning and threatening, greasing the palms of the mafia, stiffing his contractors and workers, while trying to buy his way into society affairs. Time and again, the city spat him out. He was ridiculed and reviled. He went bust six times. He defaulted on the Trump Shuttle. The banks denied him loans. He had to sell his yacht named for his daughter, The Princess. His brutish father, who financed his wild ventures, throwing good money after bad, had to buy chips illegally to momentarily float his sinking Atlantic City casino. He dumped two wives. He allegedly sexually assaulted dozens of women. When he tried to lowball Frank Sinatra, an idol, Ol’ Blue Eyes told him, “Go fuck yourself.”
After Trump had plunged in what seemed to be his final bankruptcy, he was rescued by a TV producer, Mark Burnett, who created the reality TV show The Apprentice, which depicted Trump as a business genius reigning over the Manhattan skyline. The sheer fiction was the veneer that enabled his grubby lucrative product placement side deals. His motive for running for president was a branding scam gone haywire.
Now, he has returned to the city on his road to redemption. Yet, so far, he has been held accountable for his vast crimes only in New York. He has been found liable for defamation and sexual assault and termed an adjudicated rapist by the judge in the E Jean Carroll case, and ordered to pay $83.3m in damages plus continuing interest; found liable of widespread financial fraud and ordered to pay $364m for ill-gotten gains plus continuing interest; and convicted of 34 felony counts of financial fraud for hush-money payments, to a porn star and Playboy model with whom he had affairs, in order to affect the outcome of the 2016 election.
Once again, he intends to prove himself in the city that never sleeps, the city that will give him another shot at murdering someone on Fifth Avenue and getting away with it. A star is reborn.
These little town blues are melting away I’m gonna make a brand-new start of it in old New York And if I can make it there, I’m gonna make it anywhere It’s up to you, New York, New York
Trump now says that if he loses he will blame the unappreciative Jews – he hasn’t been “treated right” by the Jews and their support for Democrats is a “curse”. But Trump, who has picked up a few Yiddish words, uses them unconsciously like a native New Yorker. On 2 January 2021, he displayed his proficiency in his notorious telephone call with the Georgia secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, in which he sought to intimidate him into committing election fraud to switch the state’s voting results.
“So look,” said Trump. “All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have.”
Raffensperger resisted Trump’s strong-arming, the Georgia outcome stood, and four days later Trump incited the assault on the Capitol in a last-ditch effort to thwart the certification of the election: “Hang Mike Pence!” Trump has since been indicted in Georgia for election fraud, a case in legal purgatory until after the 2024 election.
Twice, during his call with Raffensperger, Trump derided the Republican governor, Brian Kemp, who refused to be complicit in Trump’s scheme, by calling him a “schmuck”. Perhaps the word was lost on Trump’s listeners. According to Leo Rosten’s The Joy of Yiddish, it carries several meanings, including “penis” and “a dope, a jerk, a boob, a clumsy bumbling fellow”. Rosten wrote that “few impolite words express comparable contempt”.
Now, New Yorkers can only wonder, what kind of schmuck holds a Nazi-esque rally in Madison Square Garden?
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I’m a hyper-self-conscious neurotic freak because I’ve been gaslit so many times about so many things that it’s almost second nature for me to keep thorough receipts & have a manila folder ready to go to back myself up, but sometimes I’m almost glad because it makes me super anal about fact-checking things before saying them publicly on the internet and
I momentarily misremembered something Chappell Roan said at the Gov’s Ball about “occupied territories” (possibly inclusive of Ukraine, potentially reductive if referring to Palestine, but not wholly inaccurate of Gaza & Area C) as something about “stolen land” possibly “no peace on stolen land” (the latter of which would’ve been a pretty clear incitement to violence, would weirdly cut out Ukraine since I’ve never heard anyone say that about Ukraine, and would be difficult to read as anything but a call to destroy Israel & remove Jews), but I wasn’t 100% sure so I doublechecked and yeah no she said “freedom for oppressed peoples in occupied territories”
both glad I have that habit of double/triple-checking before making big swings publicly (@ everyone who keeps libeling Jews: what’s your excuse?) & relieved that I don’t have to check off the “popular music artists who think people I love deserve to die” box for Chappell Roan
#pheww#I was *about to say* it’s real fuckin weird to quote the Mother of Zionism while saying that but what she actually said is def less weird#i/p
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Let me be very clear to all the anons I’m getting
I believe Palestinians deserve to be safe. I believe in a two-state solution one day, but understand why it’s impossible with the current governments of both nations. I believe Palestinians deserve to have their own land and a government that does not oppress them by restricting their access to education and basic amenities. I do not want war.
You can support Palestinians while not calling for the downfall of Israel (and, by proxy, the obliteration of roughly 7 million Jews). You can support Palestinians while condemning the governments (both Hamas AND the PA). You can support Palestinians while supporting the families of the 200+ Israeli hostages and 1400+ Israelis who lost their lives (not all were Jews, by the way).
Supporting Palestinians looks like supporting left-wing Israelis who organize supply drives and try to get as much aid to Gaza as possible. Supporting Palestinians looks like donating to the Red Crescent. Supporting Palestinians looks like believing them when they say they are oppressed by Hamas and not glorifying a terrorist organization.
Supporting Palestinians does not look like spreading misinformation online or chanting “gas the Jews! r*pe their daughters!” in protests. I’m not trying to “both-sides” this thing, but I don’t think it should be controversial to say that both Israelis and Palestinians have a right to be safe and not live in fear for their lives. If you think that statement is false, think about why you believe that. Remember that not all Israelis are Jewish. Remember the ethnic cleansing of Jews in the Muslim countries of the Middle East. Tell me again why you think all Israelis deserve to die. Tell me again why you think Israel should be destroyed. Tell me again why you think supporting Hamas is activism. Use your brain for more than 2 seconds and tell me why you think Israelis are evil.
I support Palestinians. I just also support the idea that Israelis should live, too. I call for peace. I call for safety. But somehow that’s controversial.
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sometimes it’s weird seeing the way people talk about israel, especially on tumblr — unorganized and just my own train of thought, coming from my own reaction to the way i see people discussing these matters on tumblr
the constant denial of the existence of israel as a state doesn’t really make much sense to me because like it or not, it *is* there. i can understand why the jews were placed there — where do you put a whole bunch of people that clearly aren’t safe where they’ve been previously that no one wants? back in their homeland i guess. doesn’t really make it great, especially not when you’re displacing people
logically speaking palestinians and people who are jewish by ethnicity are … from the same place geographically. as far as i know, at least
personally i don’t really think characterizing hamas as ‘freedom fighters’ or whatever the fuck is okay. i, personally, am not a big fan of islamist jihad! nor am i okay with some of their rhetoric! or the things they have done! i would agree with the characterization of hamas as a terrorist group!
however! i think benjamin netanyahu desperately needs to be put in prison! i genuinely feel that there are a whole lot more people that want peace over there than people believe, and while i can’t directly corroborate that, the people i know who have gone to israel/palestine have directly witnessed efforts to bring the groups together. id like to hope that that sentiment is much stronger than people internationally realize.
going back though, bibi has literally zero morals. he’s worsening and prolonging this war because the second it’s over, he’s probably headed to jail. innocent people are dying because of how power hungry he is. this man has moved further and further right, alining himself with the ultra orthodox israelis in order to stay in power, and as someone who’s really not a fan of religious extremism in any way, shape, or form, i *loathe* the ultra orthodox. netanyahu is an evil, evil, EVIL man. this war is on him. hell, october 7th is on him. what hamas did on that day was evil — without a doubt. but they could have done something to prevent it.
no one innocent deserves to die, and i don’t think the funding of israel, and more specifically, bibi, makes sense. however, whether you like it or not, israel does exist. those people have been placed there — what point is there to saying things like ‘isnotreal’ or ‘israhelli’ or whatever else? at this point, a lot of the people there were born after the establishment of israel. are they to blame for what the british did? what do you do with them if israel just… doesn’t exist? or you can say ‘it never existed!!’ which like. i feel like that’s kinda just a conversation stopper. it exists as an entity at the very least lol
anyways, i’m no genius, nor do i claim to omniscience. if anyone comes across this and agrees or disagrees, feel free to say whatever you’d like to me — but id rather you not automatically brand me a zionist or talk to me as if i’m evil, i have no interest in a conversation that’s going to get nowhere. if you have information you think ive missed or that might be relevant, feel free to comment it or smth. always willing to learn more.
#discourse#my own personal ramblings on this i gusss#guess#i don’t really like talking politics too publicly#i prefer to support politics more by doing and less by speaking#but idk i just had thoughts#israel palestine conflict is extremely painful and depressing to think about#but it’s important that we think about it nonetheless#there are innocent people dying and it’s entirely preventable#fuck bibi#but im still not rockin w shit like ‘isnotreal’ or wtv#i could be biased due to being raised jewish#but the only reason i haven’t eschewed that completely is out of respect for those in my family that were murdered in the holocaust
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Americas view of Jesus proves they trust the words of media and politicians more than their own God and holy texts via /r/atheism
America’s view of Jesus proves they trust the words of media and politicians more than their own God and holy texts Seriously. I’m sure we’ve seen those AI images all over Facebook of mostly MAGA people showing off Jesus as an ultra right wing, gun loving, all American hero. I’m sure we’ve all seen the same people complaining about “socialism” in America. I’m sure we’ve all seen these people proudly depict Jesus as a pasty white dude with blue eyes and silky flowing hair. I’m sure we all know how nonsense that depiction is. If Jesus is real, then he’s probably fuming in heaven right now at this false prophet that’s been created in his namesake. To be fair there isn’t any real clear description of Jesus in the Bible, but it does at least say he has “wooly snow white hair, eyes of fire, and feet of bronze.” That, and also the simple fact that he was born to a middle eastern woman - in the Middle East! The Bible and all the stories about him describe Jesus as a pacifist Jew born in the Middle East with extremely socialist views. If Jesus came back in a “second coming” he’d immediately turn to us Atheists and say, “come my children, I’m taking you to a better place,” before we all awkwardly point over to the “real” Christian’s who are busy worshipping a picture of Jesus that’s actually just Ewan McGregor while proudly chanting that they’d rather see children die than lose their weapons of war and rich people deserve tax breaks while the poor don’t deserve welfare. I’d happily be wrong about being an atheist if it means I could see the look on Jesus’ face. Submitted June 01, 2024 at 06:52PM by dpj2001 (From Reddit https://ift.tt/jq9ED4K)
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Through the Bible with Les Feldick LESSON 3 * PART 1 * BOOK 71 ANTI-CHRIST: THE BEAST, THE WICKED ONE - 1 Daniel 9:27 – Revelation 19:11 Okay, it’s good to see everybody in again this afternoon. As you know, we make four programs each taping, and this is the first of the afternoon. We just want to let you know how much we appreciate your letters and your phone calls. My, since we started over in Genesis, we can’t believe the response. We have to remember we’ve got new people coming in all the time and they have never heard our teachings in Genesis before. So we really do appreciate your phone calls, letters, and your financial help. And the prayers! My, how we love it when people write and say, “We pray for you every day.” That’s what has made the program go. All right, now for those of you here in the studio, you’ve probably already turned back to the reference on the board. We’re going to continue on with what we started four or maybe eight programs ago on “The Day of the LORD.” Those final seven years of Tribulation as we now call it. Today, for the most part, I’m going to be dealing with the personality, the individual, who will be heading up the world’s government and control during those seven years. We’re going to start getting a handle on that in Daniel chapter 9 verses 25 and 26. By the way, we’ve still got a lot of copies of the one and only book that our ministry has published. It is eighty-eight questions with the answers taken from our program material. Again, it is so well received that we want as many of these to go out as possible. It will be the best $11 you’ll ever spend. Okay, turn to Daniel chapter 9, and we’re going to find out as much as we can today about what most people realize is the anti-Christ. We’re going to chase all the Scriptures that we can find regarding this individual—Daniel chapter 9. I’ll have it here in a second. We’ll just drop in and read verses 26 and 27. Now remember, this whole series began back there in verse 24, where we have 490 years of a prophecy directed to the Nation of Israel. Now we know, from the breakdown and history and church history and biblical history that the 483 years culminated with the crucifixion. Then verses 26 and 27 introduce us to the final seven years and this man anti-Christ. All right, beginning at verse 26 of Daniel 9: Daniel 9:26a “And after threescore and two weeks (Now, that threescore is 60 and 2, so after sixty two weeks, or 483 years) shall Messiah be cut off, (That’s the reference to the crucifixion.) but not for himself:…” He didn’t die because of anything He deserved, we all know that. Now here comes the clue. Daniel 9:26b “…and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary;…” Now, that’s where you’ve got to stop and think a minute. The people of the prince – now what does that mean? The Empire from which this coming prince will be citizen. Now, I hope you all get that. It’s kind of in veiled language. But the “the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city (Jerusalem) and the sanctuary (the Temple),” which we know the Romans did in A.D. 70. So, this tells us that this coming prince will come out of a revived Roman Empire. Now, I’m going to take this slow today, because I know that since the rise of Islam these last 10-15 years, a lot of people are beginning to get kind of queasy on the fact that the anti-Christ is going to come out of the Roman Empire rather than out of the Muslim world. It’s a historical fact that when the Greek Empire disintegrated after Alexander’s death, the Syrian general who ended up in control of Jerusalem was a fellow by the name of Antiochus Epiphanes. This was back around 300 B.C. He had such a hatred for the Jews and their religion, that he purposely went into the Temple and just to infuriate the Jews sacrificed a hog in the Holy of Holies in the Temple. Some Bible scholars take that as a preview in type of the real anti-Christ, and there is a certain degree of believability in that.
But that doesn’t mean that he has to come from Syria. It doesn’t mean that he has to be Assyrian. There are other elements of all this that indicate, I think, that he has be at least part Jew. In other words, the people of Israel would never accept a pure Syrian, I don’t think. I don’t think they would accept a Muslim as their Messiah. But we’re going to be looking at all this as we go through the afternoon. So right now, in this verse, we understand that this coming prince—we’ve got the names on the board of what he is also called in other areas. He is called all of these and maybe some more. But these are the ones that I could just knock off the top of my head. He is the prince that’s coming here in Daniel. He is also referred to in I John as the anti-Christ. Paul refers to him in II Thessalonians as the Son of Perdition, that Wicked One. What else have we got? Oh, and then the beast, he’s referred to as the beast throughout Scripture because of his bestiality in his ruling the world. So, all of these terms are indicative of the same individual who is going to actually become the worldwide dictator for these final seven years. All right, so now we’ll come back to this verse, this “prince that shall come,” a reference to the anti-Christ who is going to come out of the environs of the Ancient Roman Empire, which we are already seeing being revived with the European Community. Daniel 9:26c “…destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, (in other words, devastation) and unto the end (of that period of time, the seven years that are left) wars and desolations are determined.” All right, now verse 27. Daniel 9:27a “And he (this coming prince, this coming world ruler out of the environs of a revived Roman Empire) shall confirm (or make a covenant or a treaty) with many for one week:…” Now of course, we’ve looked at this verse hundreds of times over the last 15-16 years. The many, I think now, will have to involve the whole Arab world as well as Israel. And it’s going to be a supernatural thing, because as we’ve witnessed, I guess since at least 1990, how many great men have tried to make peace between Israel and the Arabs? They can get ever so close and it falls apart. Well, it will never happen until God intervenes. It’s going to be a supernaturally done peace treaty. It would never happen without the providential intervention. This man is going to be the instrument. He is going to bring about a peace treaty between Israel and, not just the Palestinians, but it will include the whole, anti-Jewish Muslim area of the Middle East. Now that includes Jordan and Egypt and probably North Africa. It includes Lebanon and Syria, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and some of those other Muslim countries. They’re all going to come together with this peace treaty with Israel. Today that’s unbelievable. It just can’t be understood in the secular world that the Arabs will ever condescend to make peace with the Jews. But they’re going to when this thing takes place. Daniel 9:27a “And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: (or for that final seven years of this 490 year prophecy. All right, then it says--) and in the middle of the week (or at the end of 3 ½ years) he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,…” Or stop. Again I have to stop and get everybody in my listening area to just be logical. Look at it with common sense. We know Israel hasn’t had a temple since A.D. 70. But now all of a sudden there’s going to be temple worship. That’s what “oblation and sacrifice” indicate, that they’re going, as a result of this peace treaty, to be able to rebuild a temple. You know the Jew will never have a temple that’s not on the Temple Mount. This is unbelievable today that the Arab Muslim world will agree to the Jews building a temple on the Temple Mount. Yes, they’re going to. That’s the supernatural aspect of this treaty. So, with the Temple rebuilt and the peace treaty that is bringing about that kind of a scenario, now again, use your imagination.
What else is this going to involve? Well, just picture Israel for the last fifty years. They have been taxed to the limit. They have been taxed unmercifully. For what reason? To maintain their military. Now when you stop and think of how a little nation of less than five million, well, they’re about five million now. Think of how they have been able to bring about, probably next to America, the greatest military machine in the world. What does that take? It takes money. I know we have helped them, but they have paid their own dues. They at one time were paying as much as 70% income tax. Now that’s a burden. My, we think it’s awful at 30 or 35%. When this peace treaty comes about that is great enough and influential enough between Israel and the Arab world so that Israel can put a temple on the Temple Mount, what else is going to happen? It’s going to be an exploding financial restoration, to not only Israel but the whole Middle East. That’s why I’ve said for the thirty years I’ve been teaching, I do not look for a worldwide financial collapse like we had in the 30’s. I just can’t see it prophetically. Because as we’re going to see after a bit, this man is going to come in with flattery, which means he’s going to promise the moon. In the world we’re living in today, so materialistically minded, what’s the first thing the average citizen of the world today thinks about? Their bank account. Their billfold. That’s all that matters. My goodness, you even take our presidential elections. What is the primary reason for people to vote? The economy. And people are the same all over today. The whole world is on a financial binge. All right, so I think it’s going to continue right in past this peace treaty where this man is going to promise peace and prosperity, and it’s going to happen. All right, now in the midst of that financial euphoria, not only are they going to have the Temple, not only are they going to have financial security, but when you’re in that state of affairs, what do you do with your military? Get rid of it! Don’t need it. So they’re going to dismantle that tremendous military machine faster than we did after World War II. Now, for those of you that are as old as I am, and that’s getting up there, how many people did we have in the military at the end of World War II? Who wants to venture a guess? Fourteen million. See, Ike is well read. We had fourteen million people in our military at the end of World War II. How long did it take us to discharge them and send them all home? A few months. Just a few months. All right, now I use that as an example. Israel is going to do the same thing. The moment this peace treaty is signed, Israel is going to just simply park their fighter aircraft. They’re going to park their tents. They’re going to discharge their military people, and they’re going to get busy getting rich! Enjoying life. They’ve finally got the peace that they’d been looking for. All right, that in turn brings us back to Ezekiel 38. Now, I’m just projecting. I’m not guaranteeing that this is all right out of Scripture. But with Scripture as a background, I can make a projection that this is what could logically happen next. All right, if Israel is going to dismantle their military, they’re going to wait upon the Western European Nations, and America will probably be involved. They, too, are going to guarantee Israel’s peace and safety. And they dismantle their military – now, what’s happened to their defense system? It’s gone. All right, now back to Ezekiel 38, the chapter that we’ve looked at over and over, where we have the big northern invasion of Israel headed up by Russia. Now, if you watch the news at all, what’s happening more and more between Russia and Iran? They’re coming closer and closer together. As much as we try to stop Iran from their nuclear activity, the Russians undermine us. They’re just going to pour whatever the Iranians need in order to keep the thing going.
All right, in Ezekiel 38 it comes to a head. I have taught, for as long as I’ve been teaching prophecy that this will be in the first year or so of the seven. I’ll show you why. First, before we get into that part, let’s see how that this Russian confederation, which will include most of the Muslim world—the Lord says in verse 8. Ezekiel 38:8a “After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years (This is at the end time.) thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword,” Well, that’s a reference to the little land of Israel. After all the wars that Israel has fought to maintain their nation’s statehood, and they have been having to fight for it almost constantly since they became a Nation, including just this past summer. Ezekiel 38:8b “…and is gathered out of many people, (Now we know that there are Jews in Israel from almost every nation under heaven today.) against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: (Because when Israel was out of the land, it became a desolation.) but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.” Ezekiel 38:9-10 “Thou (this Russian coalition) shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou and all thy bands, and many people with thee. 10. Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:” Now, here’s my key verse, the next one. Ezekiel 38:11a “And thou shalt say,…” In other words, the military planners up there in the Kremlin are going to be looking at all the details, and they’re going to just be exuberant. These Jewish people are sitting there with no military capability. They’ve dismantled everything. But that isn’t the language of about 600 B.C. What’s the language? Walled villages. Ezekiel 38:11 “And thou (the Russian leadership) shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages, (Now, in language of antiquity, that just simply means they had no defense. They’re sitting there like ducks on a pond.) I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, (My goodness, militarily I guess they’re at rest. They’re too busy making money. They’re too busy having a good time because of that peace treaty.) all of them dwelling without walls, (They’ve been guaranteed that no one will be able to hurt them.) and having neither bars nor gates,” To keep the enemy out. Russia is going to say, we go— Ezekiel 38:12a “To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited,…” Well, that’s Israel. It was a total desolation until after World War II. I’ve used it over and over where old Mark Twain was traveling over there in the 1860’s and he said he would never want to live here. It’s a desolation. Not even the weeds of the desert will grow here! He saw no living thing. Nothing! Why? It was totally desolate until the Jews started coming back after World War II. So, all of this indicates, then, if I can bring you back now to Daniel 9, that when this peace treaty is signed at the very opening days or hours of this final seven years, this humongous personality will start all of this. I have to think of my early years on the television program. In the early 90’s, we were on the big six-foot dish. Where’s Gary? Is he around here? I’ll never forget when I was still taping over in the old studio and on the way out Gary said, “Les, come in here.” He was office manager. And he said, “World Harvest has just signed up for a satellite with those big six-foot dishes and we’ve got to get you on there!” So we did. We got on the big six-foot satellite fairly early. One of my first responders was a Jewish young man out in California who picked us up on that six-foot dish. Come to find out, he was a student in a yeshiva. Now, if you know what yeshiva is, that’s where they teach young Jewish men. And we had quite a few conversations there for a little while, but we had one that always stuck with me.
He said, “Now, Les, you’re talking about a Messiah that’s going to be Deity.” And I said, “Well, yeah, it’s going to be the Son.” He said, “No, that’s not what we think at all.” I said, “Well, what do you think?” He said, “He’s just going to be a superman. He’s going to be super intelligent. He’s going to have super military capability. He’s going to be a super economist. He’s just going to be a superman, but he’s going to be a man.” All right, who was he really thinking about? The anti-Christ. That’s what he’s going to be. He’s going to be a superman. All right, now let’s finish Daniel 9 verse 27, again. Then we’ll look at a few more verses here in Daniel. Daniel 9:27b “…in the middle of the week…” That will be at the end of the first three and a half years. After we’ve had all this euphoric activity in Israel, especially, rebuilding the Temple and reestablishing Temple worship. Their economy is just roaring, and they are living life to the full. You know, I’ve got to give the Jews credit. Do you know of any race or nationality of people that can enjoy life more than the Jews? Huh-uh. They have always had the capability of living life to the full, even when they were under persecution. Well, can you imagine what it will be like when the Nation comes under the prosperity and the peace treaty that guarantees their safety? Why, it’s going to be unbelievable! All right, so in the middle of the week, this super-man anti-Christ is going to go into that Temple and do much like Antiochus Epiphanes did three hundred years before Christ. He’s going to one way or another desecrate and defile Israel’s Temple. It’s whatever you want to think, but it’s something that’s just reviling. It’s rotten to the core. It’s awful. That’s what he’s going to do to the Temple. Daniel 9:27c “…in the middle of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, (He’s going to so completely defile it that a Jew wouldn’t even think of stepping inside ever again, and it’s going to stay that way.) even until the consummation, (or the ending of that last three and a half years, or the seven) and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.” It will remain desolate until the seven years are completed. All that has been determined in prophecy as we’ve been looking at the last several programs, and we’ll look again this afternoon…all that has been determined will be poured upon the desolator, This man anti-Christ and the wrath of God will one day be poured upon him. All right, now let’s just get a few more descriptions of this fellow here while we’re in Daniel. Turn up to Daniel chapter 11, if you will. Daniel chapter 11 and come on over to verse 36. Now again, Daniel, like most of the writers of prophecy, will skip periods of time and then leap clear to the end of time. All right, now here in verse 11 we feel that he is referring to this man anti-Christ at the latter days, at the end of the seven years. Daniel 11:36a “And the king (Another reference to this man anti-Christ, he’s the world ruler.) shall do according to his will; (He won’t listen to a parliament or a congress. He’s going to be a total dictator.) and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god,…” In other words, all the religions of the world that may have their particular object of worship, he’s going to put himself above them all. And he’s going to do it with force. Daniel 11:36b “…and he shall speak marvelous things against the God of gods, (In other words, the God of Scripture, the God of Israel) and he shall prosper (In other words, he’s going to succeed at everything he does. He’s a superman, remember?) until the indignation be accomplished: (Which is another word for the seven years, he’s going to get away with everything until those seven years come to an end.) for that which is determined shall be done.” All the things in this seven years are going to come to pass, now verse 37.
Daniel 11:37a “Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers,…” Now, this is another reason I feel he has to have some Jewish blood, because I cannot understand the Nation of Israel accepting this guy as a Messiah if he were not a Jew. Now, I haven’t got time now in this half-hour, but in the next half hour I’m going to show you why I think they’re going to accept this man as the true Messiah. I’ll show you a verse of Scripture. But for now, just take my word for it that they are recognizing this man as their God-sent Messiah even though he will not regard the God of Israel. Daniel 11:37 “Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, (That about tells you what he is.) nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.” What does that tell you? The guy has all the earmarks of a total dictator. He has nothing but pride for himself.
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I think there are definitely some valid perspectives here even if i don’t 100% agree with all of the points here, i do want to give my 2 cents because idk I’m an annoying Jew who talks a lot
i do very much agree that the left’s fetishization of revenge and vengeance killing is very very frightening, especially as a Jewish person who knows the history of justifying violence against minorities in the name of “justice”. (Look at the entire history of antisemitism, and if you don’t care about jews,,,, well first off fuck off but second off look at the history of every minority out there and you will see countless lawless murders justified by the fact that the victim was “bad” in some way)
At the same time I disagree with the idea that this attack was a senselessly expression of frustration and anger
I did already make a post loosely discussing why I and so many others find this assassination to be justified (and I do think it’s important to differentiate that this wasn’t a random shooting it was a targeted assassination)
But it’s also a complex topic and i think it’s really important to bring up concerns about everyone celebrating deaths of the “bad guys” with no internal reflection.
Personally i believe emotions are inherently morally neutral, even distasteful emotions like the desire for violence or revenge. Actions have morality not feelings. Expressing those kinds of feelings isn’t inherently immoral but if left unchecked can lead to a dangerous echo chamber where people start to internalize and validate dangerous ideas about who “deserves” to die
Im starting to talk in circles a bit here, one because I think there’s valid points on both sides of the at and two because the truth is we won’t know the results of this killing for a long time. It’s a butterfly effect, and we can’t really predict how it will affect and inspire people. It could lead to protests that finally manage to change laws or it could lead to something much more frightening. All we can really do is check our biases and encourage the people around us to do the same, and just keep moving forward
I don’t think laughing at the memes is wrong nor is feeling a sense of vindication, but I do think it’s important to make sure you’re not falling into dangerous thought patterns of “bad people deserve pain and suffering and it’s my right to exact that vengeance”
I feel like maybe i should actually say what i think about the shooting. Idk
First off. I can understand the shooter's motive. And im not going to pretend like I don't. But i dont think that empathy in this situation isn't an immoral thing. Empathy has no morals.
But he still murdered someone and murder in any way, shape, or form is bad. The action is unjust. It does not bring people back, it only satiates a primal urge to see a man suffer and die.
It's the left's obsession with death. Whether it be killing yourself or killing someone else. No one, nobody, no matter who you are deserves to die. And that includes evil evil people like the ceo of an unjust insurance organization.
You do not solve structural inequality with one act of violence.
And so, even though I have empathy for the shooter, I do not idolize him. I do not like him. I wish to see him tried fairly in a court of law. Because guess fucking what, your actions have consequences. I don't care if he pulled the trigger on big insurance. He's still a murderer and that supersedes any empathy I have.
Things he could have done instead of murdering someone:
1- taken his anger out on a fake target at a shooting range
2- taken some deep breaths
3- not murder someone
If you believe this is a justified act, i can't convince you otherwise. But I believe you are wrong
Violence for the sake of violence does nothing in terms of direct action
And, on top of that, the only reason why the shooter had means and motive are structural problems in the us, neither of which will be solved by one jackass with a gun
Insurance has no federal regulations, shooting one insurance ceo will not create federal regulations
The us cares more about guns than safety, shooting one insurance ceo with a fucking gun does not help in terms of gun regulation
And the only reason this is big news is because it was the shooting of a ceo. If the shooter decided to open fire on any other civilians in the area, just normal dudes, this would not be news in the slightest. It would be normal
I hope the shooter is apprehended. I hope he receives a fair trial. I hope he receives a punishment that is just for the crime he committed. And I don't want that punishment to be the death penalty because as I said before
Murder is always wrong
The murder of a ceo is wrong, and the murder of the shooter after the fact is wrong
#long post#I’m trying to have like an open and respectful conversation here so if my tone is super off or offensive please let me know#i think it’s important for people with different perspectives on this sort of thing to discuss it#I also am running out of time to write this so I tried to put as much nuance as I could in the like 15 minutes I had to type this up#but if there’s any huge holes or things i need to clarify lmk and I’ll explain a bit better#also OP I’m not trying to start drama and if you want me to delete this I will
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I deleted and reported this because I didn’t want to give this Nazi any space on my platform, but I want people to know that I’m not kidding when I say this is the kind of shit Jews get on the daily. Online or in person.
I really honestly don’t think this person is in the RWRB fanbase because I also use some Jewish and Jew tags and they probably came from there. (I really hope, because otherwise this is a fan of RWRB)
This is why I fight for Jewish representation in media and stand up against antisemitism wherever I can. Until Jews are seen as worthy by everyone, all of our lives are at stake all the time. If someone has never met a Jew in their life and they only know Jewish people from what they read or watch, they’re going to think all Jews are penny pinchers who want their pound of flesh (Merchant of Venice) or loud, annoying New Yorkers (Seinfield), or bagel eating bankers who fuck up their clients lives (How I Met Your Father), or as nonexistent people because they all died out (All Holocaust movies and books). Jews deserve more roles where they can show the world that they are just fucking real people, so then maybe people will stop trying to fucking kill us all the time. Show Jews onscreen so young Jewish girls stop wanting to die because their noses don’t look like the ones they see on TV. Show Jews so Nazis like this can start feeling inferior whenever they want to watch something. That’s why Nora being Jewish was so important, she was just a normal girl who was loved by her friends who happened to be Jewish, because we deserve to just be seen as normal and loved once in a while.
Anyway that’s it. Fuck this guy. I reported this, and something else that I’m not even gonna post because it’s just idiotically racist towards Black people and it’s too stupid to give a single sentence to, the second I saw them. I’m pretty sure I blocked the IP address too so he shouldn’t be coming back anytime soon.
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Hi, be careful what information you post on the conflict as it’s not as one sided as you’re making it out to be. Israel is being attacked as well. I’m not saying everything Israel is doing is correct, by no means is that true. But innocent people are getting hurt on both sides and that’s not okay. A lot of the posts I’ve seen have just been thinly valid antisemitism, so be careful the ones you reblog as well. You can be anti Israel without being vitriolic to the innocent people who live there. Palestine is not as innocent as everyone claims they are, but they don’t deserve to be kicked out of there homes either. Israel is complicated but innocents don’t deserve to be killed either. A lot of people post about Palestine blindly, I just encourage you to look into both sides a bit more and not make it out to be a situation with one right answer. If it was then this problem would have been solved a long time ago.
~ A Very Stressed American Jew
blah blah blah both sides blah blah blah Palestine isn’t innocent blah blah.
For the stuff about anti-semitism: yeah I agree. People can be posting things that are anti Semitic while pretending to be anti-Israel. I’ve reblogged stuff abt that fact, too. And I always try to make sure what I’m reblogging is talking abt Israel’s cruelty and doesn’t mention anything anti-Semitic. If you see something that I’ve reblogged and you feel it’s anti-Semitic, then let me know.
Second of all: the only 2 sides there are is the oppressor and the oppressed. Palestinians are the fucking oppressed, and I say this as a Palestinian (and an American!) If you want to see how “complicated” this problem is then go onto Twitter and watch the videos Palestinians are sharing and THEN tell me we aren’t innocent. Like bro, throwing rocks or rockets in SELF DEFENSE is 1000000% justified and something I will always defend. Don’t go to Israeli media (which, anyway, doesn’t mind showing you the gang beat-ups of Palestinians lol)
Also, while you are saying there are Israeli citizens that are innocent (which yes, 100% true) you seem to ignore the Israeli citizens out in the streets calling for lynching of Palestinians, entering homes to kill fathers in front of their children, raping the women, forcing themselves into Palestinian homes, and calling for the death of all Arabs, all with the help of the IDF and police. Don’t fucking tell me the citizens are all innocent, many of them are part of this and have been for generations. They are just as complicit as their government in this. I don’t care if they were brainwashed into all the hate they feel, they still are out there adding more fire to the problems. (And NO, I am not referring to IDF soldiers who are forced into duty in this).
The US has brainwashed you into thinking that Palestinians are horrible, that there are two equal sides, that it is a very complicated mind-boggling situation that can’t be solved! That’s all false. I implore you to look at Palestinan sources, both videos, pictures and websites like decolonizepalestine dot com. You already have some awareness of the reality from your ask, but you telling me there’s “both sides” is telling me you have some more work to do. This has been a 73 year old war. Simple. Israel, when attacked, has the Iron Dome, their citizens have bomb shelters, they have a million other protections Palestinians don’t. Palestinians, when attacked, have none of that. They suffer. They die. They get raped. We always pay the larger cost in whatever rocket fire is expelled. Netanyahu said he will bomb Gaza until there is silence. Yeah, that totally sounds like a complicated situation!
No. That simply won’t do. And if you do want to do your readings, do not read Zionist powered publications like the New York Times and the New York post and the like. I repeat that I agree that there is a lot of anti-Semitism in anti-Israel posts, but none of my posts have reflected that, and if they have let me know and I will take them down. This isn’t a religious matter and I understand that, there are Palestinian Jewish ppl as well! They are also suffering under this racist colonial rule
But Palestinians are innocent. We are. We one MILLION percent are. Just because we are fighting back after generations of colonialism, abuse, murder and rape doesn’t make us any less innocent. It makes us fucking fighters for our rights, because a lot of people don’t give a fuck about us and haven’t for 7 decades. Don’t forget that Israel is the instigator of the violence, all the way from 1948. Israel is being attacked because we’re fed up, and it’s not like we’re making much damage anyway, so don’t try to make it out to be that there are both sides that are equal here. Because that isn’t true.
#tala gets asks#anon#palestine tag#plus theres a lot of islamophobia in both pro israel posts & israeli propaganda#also read articles from previous idf soldiers that are now palestinian activits#activists* i have a few if u want them#and also i have BEEN to palestine a handful of times#ive BEEN to jerusalem#ive seen some of this crap with my own eyes#so dont u dare come here and tell me we arent innocent#we are#i have family in the middle of this conflict rn#my aunt who is a doctor is sheikh jarrah who is seeing all this horror#i know how one sided it is#do u?#free. palestine.
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𝕋he 𝒫rophecies o𝒻 𝔐other 𝒮hipton
𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕻𝖗𝖔𝖕𝖍𝖊𝖈𝖎𝖊𝖘 𝖔𝖋 𝖀𝖗𝖘𝖚𝖑𝖆 𝕾𝖍𝖎𝖕𝖙𝖔𝖓, 𝖓é𝖊 𝕾𝖔𝖚𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖎𝖑; 𝖜𝖍𝖔 𝖜𝖆𝖘 𝖐𝖓𝖔𝖜𝖓 𝖆𝖘 𝕸𝖔𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖗 𝕾𝖍𝖎𝖕𝖙𝖔𝖓; 𝖂𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍 𝖔𝖋 𝕶𝖓𝖆𝖗𝖊𝖘𝖇𝖔𝖗𝖔𝖚𝖌𝖍, 𝖆𝖓𝖉 𝕻𝖗𝖔𝖕𝖍𝖊𝖙𝖊𝖘𝖘. 𝕾𝖍𝖊 𝖕𝖗𝖔𝖕𝖍𝖊𝖘𝖎𝖊𝖉 𝖙𝖍𝖗𝖔𝖚𝖌𝖍𝖔𝖚𝖙 𝖍𝖊𝖗 𝖑𝖎𝖋𝖊, 𝖆𝖓𝖉, 𝖘𝖚𝖕𝖕𝖔𝖘𝖊𝖉𝖑𝖞, 𝖇𝖊𝖋𝖔𝖗𝖊 𝖍𝖊𝖗 𝖉𝖊𝖆𝖙𝖍 𝖘𝖍𝖊 𝖉𝖎𝖈𝖙𝖆𝖙𝖊𝖉 𝖙𝖍𝖎𝖘 𝖕𝖔𝖊𝖒. 𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝖋𝖎𝖗𝖘𝖙 𝖕𝖚𝖇𝖑𝖎𝖘𝖍𝖊𝖉 𝖛𝖊𝖗𝖘𝖎𝖔𝖓𝖘 𝖉𝖆𝖙𝖊 𝖙𝖔 𝖈𝖎𝖗𝖈��. 1641, 𝖆𝖓𝖉 𝖆 𝖓𝖚𝖒𝖇𝖊𝖗 𝖔𝖋 𝖛𝖆𝖗𝖎𝖆𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓𝖘 𝖊𝖝𝖎𝖘𝖙.
𝒜nd now a word, in uncouth rhyme Of what shall be in future time
Then upside down the world shall be And gold found at the root of tree All England's sons that plough the land Shall oft be seen with Book in hand The poor shall now great wisdom know ... Great houses stand in farflung vale All covered o'er with snow and hail
A carriage without horse shall go Disaster fill the world with woe. In London, Primrose Hill shall be In centre hold a Bishop's See
Around the world men's thoughts will fly Quick as the twinkling of an eye. And water shall great wonders do How strange. And yet it shall come true.
Through towering hills proud men shall ride No horse or ass move by his side. Beneath the water, men shall walk Shall ride, shall sleep, shall even talk. And in the air men shall be seen In white and black and even green
A great man then, shall come and go For prophecy declares it so.
In water, iron, then shall float As easy as a wooden boat Gold shall be seen in stream and stone In land that is yet unknown.
And England shall admit a Jew You think this strange, but it is true The Jew that once was held in scorn Shall of a Christian then be born.
A house of glass shall come to pass In England. But Alas, alas A war will follow with the work Where dwells the Pagan and the Turk
These states will lock in fiercest strife And seek to take each others life. When North shall thus divide the south And Eagle build in Lions mouth Then tax and blood and cruel war Shall come to every humble door.
Three times shall lovely sunny France Be led to play a bloody dance Before the people shall be free Three tyrant rulers shall she see.
Three rulers in succession be Each spring from different dynasty. Then when the fiercest strife is done England and France shall be as one.
The British olive shall next entwine In marriage with a german vine. ... Men walk beneath and over streams Fulfilled shall be their wondrous dreams.
For in those wondrous far off days The women shall adopt a craze To dress like men, and trousers wear And to cut off their locks of hair They'll ride astride with brazen brow As witches do on broomstick now.
And roaring monsters with man atop Does seem to eat the verdant crop And men shall fly as birds do now And give away the horse and plough.
There'll be a sign for all to see Be sure that it will certain be. Then love shall die and marriage cease And nations wane as babes decrease
And wives shall fondle cats and dogs And men live much the same as hogs.
In nineteen hundred and twenty six Build houses light of straw and sticks. For then shall mighty wars be planned And fire and sword shall sweep the land.
When pictures seem alive with movements free When boats like fishes swim beneath the sea, When men like birds shall scour the sky Then half the world, deep drenched in blood shall die.
For those who live the century through In fear and trembling this shall do. Flee to the mountains and the dens To bog and forest and wild fens.
For storms will rage and oceans roar When Gabriel stands on sea and shore And as he blows his wondrous horn Old worlds die and new be born.
A fiery dragon will cross the sky Six times before this earth shall die Mankind will tremble and frightened be for the sixth heralds in this prophecy.
For seven days and seven nights Man will watch this awesome sight. The tides will rise beyond their ken To bite away the shores and then The mountains will begin to roar And earthquakes split the plain to shore.
And flooding waters, rushing in Will flood the lands with such a din That mankind cowers in muddy fen And snarls about his fellow men.
He bares his teeth and fights and kills And secrets food in secret hills And ugly in his fear, he lies To kill marauders, thieves and spies.
Man flees in terror from the floods And kills, and rapes and lies in blood And spilling blood by mankinds' hands Will stain and bitter many lands
And when the dragon's tail is gone, Man forgets, and smiles, and carries on To apply himself - too late, too late For mankind has earned deserved fate.
His masked smile - his false grandeur, Will serve the gods their anger stir. And they will send the Dragon back To light the sky - his tail will crack Upon the earth and rend the earth And man shall flee, King, Lord, and serf.
But slowly they are routed out To seek diminishing water spout And men will die of thirst before The oceans rise to mount the shore.
And lands will crack and rend anew You think it strange. It will come true.
And in some far off distant land Some men - oh such a tiny band Will have to leave their solid mount And span the earth, those few to count, Who survives this (unreadable) and then Begin the human race again.
But not on land already there But on ocean beds, stark, dry and bare Not every soul on Earth will die As the Dragons tail goes sweeping by.
Not every land on earth will sink But these will wallow in stench and stink Of rotting bodies of beast and man Of vegetation crispt on land.
But the land that rises from the sea Will be dry and clean and soft and free Of mankinds' dirt and therefore be The source of man's new dynasty.
And those that live will ever fear The dragons tail for many year But time erases memory You think it strange. But it will be.
And before the race is built anew A silver serpent comes to view And spew out men of like unknown To mingle with the earth now grown Cold from its heat and these men can Enlighten the minds of future man.
To intermingle and show them how To live and love and thus endow The children with the second sight. A natural thing so that they might Grow graceful, humble and when they do The Golden Age will start anew.
The dragon's tail is but a sign For mankind's fall and man's decline. And before this prophecy is done I shall be burned at the stake, at one My body singed and my soul set free You think I utter blasphemy You're wrong. These things have come to me This prophecy will come to be.
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I know I go - I know I'm free I know that this will come to be. Secreted this - for this will be Found by later dynasty
A dairy maid, a bonny lass Shall kick this stone as she does pass And five generations she shall breed Before one male child does learn to read.
This is then held year by year Till an iron monster trembling fear eats parchment, words and quill and ink And mankind is given time to think.
And only when this comes to be Will mankind read this prophecy But one mans sweets anothers bane So I shall not have burned in vain.
#dont tell me it was a hoax ive been to her cave#many spurious passages i know but i think her spirit probably guided the works written in her hand#as they do
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@supeshouse phrased things better than I can. I don’t know any of these folks really, and I’m a white American goy, but I would really like to second:
“If you truly think my allyship is worth a glass of piss than I’ll offer it simplistically: I want a world where no more Jews have to die. I want a world where no more Palestinians have to die.”
Every Jewish and Palestinian person “deserve[s] to be safe. …deserve[s] to be loved. To have every single person you meet look you in the eye and see the infinite complexity of mankind reflected back at them.”
I also offer myself as “support and shield.” If we are a global world than we are a global community. We stand together against the authoritarians and others who commit violence against our communities.
For real though y’all gotta stop harassing random Jewish folks online and use your apparent infinite troll energy for things that might actually help the Palestinian people you profess to care about.
Shut up you genocide supporter
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
So, just to be clear, I made a post specifically explaining that I hear this phrase as a call for my death personally. I hear this phrase as a call for the death of all Jews to be murdered and denied burial and to be shoved into the sea and provided examples as of why. And I received this in my inbox less than a minute later.
I also explained explicitly that I believe Palestinian people have a right to use this phrase and reclaim it from terrorists who took it from them. I explained that my ultimate goal is peace for Palestinians and for Jews. I explained that I wish for Palestinians to live as full and equal citizens in their homeland. I explained that anything that does not contribute to this goal of peace is causing active harm to Jews as well as deepening the conflict going on right now.
Given that information, you chose to send me this.
So you want me to die? You want to kill me, a Jewish person who does not live in and has never been to Israel? You want to kill all Jews?
Hmmm…it sounds like only one of us actually supports genocide, and it sure isn’t me.
Next time you want to tell me that you want me dead and want to kill all Jewish people, you can just say that. There’s no need to pretend you’re helping Palestinians at the same time.
PS: to all the goyim who replied to my recent posts that they support Jews and abhor antisemitism—now would be a good time to show support.
Jews cannot continue to receive this kind of targeted harassment in the name of people who claim to support peace. Standing up to antisemitism means loudly and clearly denouncing this. And if you don’t do so, I’m just gonna assume you stand with @pata-hikari, who wants me dead.
I have made it abundantly clear that I don’t support the violent response to the 10/7 attacks. I have made it abundantly clear I want freedom and equality for Palestinians. It’s time for y’all to make it abundantly clear that you understand that this message was a death threat. That people are using a phrase coined to promote hope and peace and liberation to threaten (another) mass Jewish slaughter. Do you care about me or not? Stop fence sitting or choosing sides. Fight for peace or stop pretending to be my friend and ally. An ally doesn’t stand idly by while someone they claim to support gets death threats.
Again, I don’t want ANY violence. I don’t want anyone to attack this person. What I want is to stop having to deal with this shit every day. What I want is for people to be as loud in their opposition to antisemitism as they are for Palestinian self determination. What I want is to stop having to be regarded as a good guy or a bad guy. I just want to be a fucking person and I want PEACE ONLY.
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Ok wtf why is everyone hating on Israel-
Hamas is a terrorist organization???
People are supporting it?? People are supporting killing Jews?? They support the Palestinians, and that by itself isn't a bad thing, but they also encourage the death of Jewish people. They want me dead. THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES SUFFERING.
WHEN THEY ARE SUPPORTING TERRORISM AND A SECOND HOLOCAUST, THEN IT BECOMES A PROBLEM.
THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES WHO HAVE CHILDREN DYING. THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES WHO LIVE IN FEAR.
I'm very sorry, but seeing people hating on me and my family and my friends all over the world, with absolutely NO knowledge about what is going on, and encouraging terrorism, violence and hate, is something that disgusts me.
Like, literally shut the fuck up, go suck a dick, and stop encouraging this war.
Sure, not all of the people from Palestine are bad, and not all of them are supporting the Hamas, but people seems to forget that Israeli people did nothing wrong.
Not all of us deserve to die.
I don't.
I don't wanna die.
I don't want my family to die.
I don't want my friends to die.
And I'm scared, because when more than half of the world is encouraging terror and violence, it only makes things worse.
And YES! of course we attack Palestine back, the send rockets at us! What do you expect us to do?? Let them?? When they burn houses and farms, do you expect us to just ignore it??
At this rate, we're gonna have another holocaust.
And I. Dont. Want. To. Die.
#literally just let us live#and people all over the world are like:#free palastine!! UGA BUGA FREE PALESTINE with literally no knowledge about this subject#Israel#Palestine
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The solution to the Israeli–Palestinian conflict
Woke up today and heard about John Oliver’s monologue. First of all, you are welcome to watch those two answers to the monologue: ONE AND TWO. I also woke up today and thought about all the hate messages I got - a lot of them centered around the fact that people think that Israel doesn’t have the right to exist as the Palestinians, according to them, were here first. There is nothing more amazing then European or American telling me that I stole a land from people.Let’s recap shall we? About 70 years ago Israel was declared a country by the United Nations and from there to now people refuse to acknowledge this fact. I want you to go on a journey with me to remember why the United Nations suddenly decided to give the Jews a country? Well, the Jew’s hope for a country did not start only 70 years ago. A guy named Theodor Herzl dreamed and fought for a country in the 19’s century. You know why Tehader, Austro-Hungarian journalist dreamed of a country for his people? Because Jew’s hate was always there and he saw that fact in Dreyfus affair. Theodor tried to find places for the Jews to live in, spend his whole life and money but doing so. Fortunately he did not succeed but the idea of a country where Jews could live freely, without being afraid to be who they are, stayed. We go forwarded to WW2 - Hitler is rising in Germany. Most of the Jews accept the new laws upon them because they think it just a faze, that nothing is going to happen to them in the country they love and grow up in. But let’s forget about Europe for a second, we all know what happen to those who thought that by staying they would be fine (if the The Holocaust does not ring a bell please do read about the genocide of the Jewish people) and talk about the Arabs country where Jewish were living in that time. I’m going to talk about my family - half of it is from Iraq and the other half from Europe (Russia, Romania, Poland).My grandma and grandpa were from Iraq. My grandma came from a rich family - they had a big house with servants and house keeper, practically royalty. But, when Israel became a country and they could leave Iraq they did it without thinking twice. You know why? Because the people in Iraq did pogrom in which they killed, raped or beaten the Jewish population. My grandma was in the underground organization to help and protect the Jewish people. My grandma and great grandma were told by the government of Iraq that in order to get to Israel they need to leave everything behind - they were only allowed to take a small suitcase which later, before the flight to Israel, the people in Iraq took every valuable thing my family had there. They got on the plane and arrived to a new country that had nothing in it. They lived in tents without nothing, they left everything behind without a choice. My grandpa and grandma worked all their life to have money to support her children. My family in Romania had a big factory which again, made them very rich. When Hitler came to rising my great-grandpa had no choice but to abandon the factory in order to survive. He did not make it in time for Israel as at some point the borders closed and the British did not allow everyone to the country. He survived the Holocaust and came to Israel with a small suitcase and never talked about what happened to him - till this very day, we do not know how he survived it or what had he seen. Some of my family from Poland stayed. While my great-grandpa joined the British army and fought in WW2 alongside them, his sisters with their children stayed in Poland. My great-grandpa only knows that at some point they tried to run for Russia - they never made it. The most logical thing that happened is that the Nazis caught them and shot them in the woods. My family which included innocent children were murdered and I will never know how or where their bodies are. Now you may ask me - what does it anything to do with Palestine? Well, when you so cleverly post #freepalestine what you are basically saying is - Jewish people don’t deserve a country and they all need to be killed. Now you would say that I confuse anti-Israelis with antisemitism. Someone wrote me that if Israel would not be a country anymore Palestine and Jewish will live side by side with each other. Sorry fam, no. What would happen and already happen in the course of history is that the Palestinian would fight the Jews in Israel. How do I know that? Because that’s what happened in 48’: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947%E2%80%931949_Palestine_war)So, what am I getting at? Israel is the only Jewish country in the whole fucking world. Do you know how many Muslim countries the world has? About 50. So why does Israel doesn’t have the right to exist? Why do we need to prove again and again that it’s okay to defend the only country that Jews do not need to feel unsafe? Because Palestinian insisted they want that piece of land and they have the right to it. And that’s the point ladies and gents that’s killing me - instead of moving forward, instead of accepting that Israel is a state and there is a reason for it they fall back to “this was mine first” which may or may not be true, and the rest of the world back them up. Do you know what happened to a lot of Jews after WW2 ended? they came back to their houses and found other people living there. Some of them were killed when they returned to their home country. So how come you don’t hear Jews from Europe asking to give their homes back? How come my grandma and others like her rose from the ashes and never looked back? Because the Jewish people have lost so much already and they know to pick their battles. They try to make the most from a bad situation and rise from that. How would all the Europeans and Americans feel if the natives (which lived there first) would tell them to back the hell off from the land? An English wrote me he wishes I would die for living in a country. Where do you want me to go? If the Palestinian would try and move forward from trying to take over that small piece of land I promise you the Israeli-Palestine conflict would be over and the two sides would live in happiness.
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