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August/Water; or Who Listens to Sunny?
OMORI SPOILERS AHEAD - ANALYSIS OF BLACK SPACE AND BASIL AND SUNNY’S RELATIONSHIP
Hey all, I just had a bit of a theory/analysis of something that I noticed in Omori that hasn’t gotten a lot of attention, and it has to do with Black Space, and a few rooms in particular.
It’s not the main room that I want to talk about, but we should start with the Watermelon Area.
It’s the first and only mandatory Black Space area that involves Headspace Basil. From here, we can see that the Headspace Basils that appear in Black Space have memories that they shouldn’t, which is why they have been banished to Black Space and now killed as they bring these memories up.
This HS Basil, referencing the theme of the area, brings up watermelons, and specifically, how the group used to eat watermelons at the beach. After interacting with the seventh watermelon in the second part of the area, Basil breaks down rather than the watermelon. I’m sure there’s some kind of symbolism there, but it isn’t important for what I’m talking about.
What is important is that this Basil bringing up the trip to the beach and eating watermelon leads to the next area of Black Space, the Beach Area.
First, I want to acknowledge the parts of this area that I don’t see as especially relevant to this analysis. To paraphrase, Stranger’s dialogue is focused around if Basil and Sunny can truly call the others their friends, and about if there is any hope still left for them. In addition, there are photos scattered around the area that get scribbled out when you interact with them, giving another piece of foreshadowing that Sunny was the one that scribbled out the pictures in Basil’s photo album.
But what I really want to talk about in this area starts with it’s background music. The track for this area is one entitled August/Water. What really brought it to my attention was the fact that it was 1 minute and 43 seconds long. If you aren’t aware, 143 refers to the phrase, “I Love You”. It appears throughout the game, and is mostly related to Mari/Something, but it does appear in other places as well, for instance, HS Basil in the Boss Rush has 143 Heart at level 25, while Aubrey’s birthday (on non leap years) is the 143rd day of the year. It will also crop up again in the soundtrack in one of the later Black Space areas.
(edit: I also want to note that “143″ is not something that exists in any tangible ways to the characters of the game or within headspace. Outside of a few instances, it is almost exclusively found within character stats, damage amounts, and within the soundtrack. Instead, you should consider it as a way that the game conveys information to you without the characters “hearing” or “being aware” of what’s being said.)
What makes its appearance here so interesting, though, is that there is seemingly no one that it is referring to in the Beach Area. Stranger isn’t saying anything of note that would indicate any kind of feelings (though he definitely does elsewhere), and the only other NPC that can be interacted with is “BLUEGIRL”, who only appears as a WTF event. We’ll talk about her in a little bit.
So it’s important to acknowledge, since this area is so connected to the Beach Memory, that the trip to the beach is the last time chronologically that Sunny’s crush on Aubrey is depicted in the real world, via the Lost Library entry for the drive home, in which Sunny pretends to be asleep on Aubrey’s shoulder, so it’s possible that this is an Aubrey 143.
There’s just one problem with that. The trip to the beach, at least the one that is most relevant to what happens in the game, happens in June, while the song is clearly labeled August/Water. Now, it’s possible that they went to the beach more than once, and HS Basil in the watermelon room outright says that they did, but I think there’s more to it than that.
See, the group had a very busy August in the year that the photo album was made. On 8/4, they went beetle catching. On 8/14, they finished building the treehouse, and they hung out there again on 8/16, where everyone in the group is wearing the exact same outfits they were wearing two days ago. I don’t think that’s important, I just thought it was funny. Finally, on 8/18, at least Basil, Mari, Aubrey, and Kel went to Hobbeez to read the latest edition of Captain Spaceboy. Notably, none of these activities really involve water in the slightest. However, there is one big event involving water that we never actually get a date for, but had to have happened at some point over that Summer...
We know that Sunny almost drowning in the lake is something that must have happened at some point during the year the photo album was made, but we annoyingly don’t have an exact date, since Basil didn’t document his best friend almost dying, for some reason. Kel discovered the Lake Hideout in March, and they had to have used it enough that it ended up becoming their hideout in the first place. The incident also likely happened after the month of June, as I don’t see Mari agreeing to a beach trip if neither Sunny or Basil could go in the water. Now we never actually see Sunny in the water in this memory, but when you interact with Mari during this scene in Memory Lane, she mentions the heat as the reason Sunny wouldn’t want to be there, and not any fear of drowning keeping him from fully enjoying himself.
I do want to mention that there does exist a film from 1995 called August in the Water, which does feature a scene where one of the main characters is in a diving competition, falls incorrectly, and goes comatose for a bit, but I don’t really think this is intentionally referencing that movie, because there is a lot of stuff that happens in that movie.
Finally, in much the same way that the room before this referenced the trip to the Beach, the area after this, the Spider Area, references the incident at the lake.
So there we have it, right? August/Water is referencing the Lake Incident, so the 1:43 is a Mari 143, since Mari is the one that saved Sunny, right? Well... I don’t actually think so.
See, there’s a curious NPC in the Beach Area that only appears if your WTF value is 6 or higher.
“BLUEGIRL” is a very interesting NPC. All she does is move around the southern part of the Beach Area, and if you try to talk with her, she just says, “Don’t talk to me.” As this conclusion is different from my own, I would like to acknowledge that the wiki entry for BLUEGIRL draws similarities between her and Mari. I do feel that this conclusion is incorrect, because to me, this NPC looks just like Aubrey. Specifically, as she appears in this image, from the Final Duet:
Also, look! Sunny’s wearing the same outfit that he was wearing when Mari pulled him out of the lake! Isn’t that neat?
Obviously, Sunny was very much traumatized by the incident at the lake. It’s where he got his fear of heights, spiders, and drowning. He straight up didn’t even try to save himself, believing he was too weak and waiting for Hero and Kel to do so, but those two weren’t even the ones that pulled him out. If Mari hadn’t dove in, Sunny would be dead. Even after Sunny has conquered all of his fears in-game, interacting with the lake reveals that Sunny still sometimes feels like he has water in his head.
So, what do we make of all this?
The player isn’t supposed to really know about how Sunny would take the time to listen to Aubrey’s problems when they were younger quite yet. It’s only implied that it happened during One Day Left, and only confirmed by the dream version of Aubrey that appears right after Memory Lane. Even BLUEGIRL only has like a 50% chance of appearing.
What I believe is trying to be said here is that Sunny wanted to talk to someone about what he went through at the lake, and felt that he couldn’t do that with Aubrey. I don’t think Aubrey ever would have dropped a blunt “Don’t talk to me”, especially to Sunny before the timeskip, but the conclusion is the same. I think the emphasis on this being “BLUEGIRL” is important, because Sunny’s mind uses the color blue to represent sadness. I think that Aubrey would already have been going through a lot, and Sunny would have felt uncomfortable putting any more on her. Or perhaps, he did try to talk to her about it, and the conversation just didn’t lead anywhere.
In addition, on a more meta level, after the intro of the Beach Memory during Memory Lane, you actually can’t talk to Aubrey, as she is too busy fighting with Kel.
There are many reasons that Aubrey could have been feeling sad in August of the photo album. It’s likely that her parents’ marriage was already falling apart at this point. Her dad is still around by the time the recital comes around, but we also know that the reason she was going to have to wait to dye her hair pink was because of her dad being strict about that kind of thing. The picture of her and Kim that both have next to their beds shows that it likely wasn’t long after the incident that she went through with this, considering she still looks quite young.
However, whether Aubrey was going through a lot at the time, or Sunny just didn’t feel comfortable talking about something like this with his crush, we don’t need BLUEGIRL to tell us who Sunny didn’t open up to about the incident. Aubrey, Kel, and Hero don’t seem to know that the reason that Sunny fell into the lake was due to a spider, with Hero saying:
“Kel and I used to do tricks jumping off that statue, but when we asked Sunny to try it... he froze up and fell into the lake.”
And then, when you walk into Hero and Kel’s bedroom and find the spider, no one seems to find it weird that Sunny isn’t also freezing up at the sight of it. No one ever questions him for jumping in after Basil either, nor acknowledge any fear of drowning/inability to swim post-incident. We also have the present day swing set conversation in which Aubrey says this:
“Sometimes I think I was the one that should have been there for you.”
This is actually the first indication that Sunny ever listened to Aubrey in the same way he did for Basil, and it makes it clear that this interaction was one-sided.
So who did Sunny talk to about what happened? That brings us to the next room in Black Space...
Among the appearances of HS Basil, this one is unique. It is the first Black Space area that is optional, so many players never even see it. More importantly, the memory that HS Basil invokes in this area is one that the man himself seemingly was not involved with. He says:
“I remember a while back... You told me that a big spider fell on your shoulder just as you were about to dive into the lake at our secret hangout spot!”
Now Basil is actually the only person that is not confirmed to be present during the Lake Incident. It is completely possible that he wasn’t even there, considering he can’t swim. But considering the group did everything together, and Mari and Aubrey were seemingly not swimming at the time, I find it likely that he was there.
HS Basil talking about this does not necessarily mean that a conversation actually happened, as Sunny is definitely an unreliable narrator, especially within his own mind. However, Basil doesn’t just reference the incident, he references Sunny telling him about the incident. The previous HS Basil referenced the beach trip, which did actually happen, so I feel comfortable in saying that this HS Basil is referencing an actual memory that Sunny has of opening up to Basil about the Lake Incident.
In fact, even the Basil follow-ups during Boss Rush imply that they both listened to each other. While they are initiated by Basil, I would argue that this is only due to Omori already having his own set of follow-ups. The description for VENT isn’t “BASIL vents his anger to OMORI!”, it’s “BASIL and OMORI vent their anger!”. This is carried over to the other two follow-ups, it’s something that they’re both doing. COMFORT is them comforting each other, not Omori comforting Basil, and MULL is them mulling over their sad thoughts together.
I personally think this is an important thing to note when discussing Basil and Sunny’s relationship. The game makes a big deal about how Sunny would always listen to Basil’s worries, fears, hopes, and dreams, and also tells us that Sunny did the same for Aubrey, but this is the first indication that that relationship went both ways for either of them. In fact, I’d hazard to say that this probably was the first time Sunny would’ve opened up like this to Basil. Aside from the group picnic vision in Faraway, the only Faraway visions that feature Sunny and another character are Sunny and Aubrey on the swings, and Basil and Sunny on the dock overlooking the lake.
Even before researching this, I’ve always felt that the Lake Incident is a really underrated event that helps explain Basil’s mindset regarding Sunny, especially the day of the recital. After all, a few months before Sunny ever pushed Mari down the stairs, Sunny almost died in a manner that Basil couldn’t protect him from, due to his inability to swim. Sunny then opens up about his frankly extreme fears of heights, spiders, and drowning that came from the event, and possibly about how he didn’t even try to save himself due to believing himself to be too weak, and Basil’s protective view of Sunny, especially when colored by the trauma of watching Mari die, becomes a lot more understandable.
So. Anyway. August/Water. 1:43. I love you.
If it isn’t clear what I’m trying to imply here, I believe the game, through the details of these rooms in Black Space, is trying to tell us that in August, following almost drowning at the lake and struggling to find someone to talk about it with, Sunny’s relationship and view of Basil began to change. But is there any other evidence of this?
Taking a look at the photo album, there are a couple of choice excerpts that stand out regarding Basil and Sunny.
This picture is from 3/9, but I wanted to point out that Sunny and Aubrey are sitting at the table that is later noted for being the table that Sunny and Basil always sit at in the version of Sunny’s house before memory lane, which is implied to be from after the treehouse was finished. Aubrey’s looking at Kel, instead, who has pulled up his own chair. This is also the same weekend that Basil showed Sunny the book that he was reading.
On 8/16, Sunny is shown to have started reading the book that Basil recommended to him five months prior. What could have possessed him to do that now, with the recital two months away and school about to start, rather than at the start of the summer, or back in March when Basil first showed it to him?
Then, on 9/6, we get the Treehouse Memory during Memory Lane, along with those pictures. There are quite a few details that I would like to draw your attention to:
1. During the Rainy Day Memory in April, Basil calls out Sunny’s crush on Aubrey due to Sunny specifically always asking to look at his photos of Aubrey. The Treehouse Memory shows that by September, Sunny was asking to look at his pictures that include everyone except Aubrey.
2. Basil is wearing a flower crown, despite saying in April that “just a flower is okay.” We know that HS Basil is always wearing a flower crown, telling us that either Sunny really likes it when Basil wears a full flower crown, or that Basil would like to wear a full flower crown, but is too embarrassed to do so, so Sunny allows him to do so in his dreams. Either way, Basil wearing a full flower crown five months after saying that they were too much for him definitely parallels Sunny deciding to read the book five months after Basil’s recommendation.
(edit: Something that I noticed after originally writing this is that despite giving up on learning how to make flower crowns when the group did it as a group, one of the group picnics in headspace, at the playground, being the group making flower crowns implies that Sunny did go back at some point to learn how to make them. Considering that Basil didn’t seem interested in wearing a flower crown in the real world, it is completely possible that the flower crown that he’s wearing in this memory is from Sunny going back and learning, but this is definitely something that is up to your own interpretation.)
3. Sunny is playing cards with the group, but Basil doesn’t seem to see him as an opponent in his photo album entry. I don’t think this actually implies anything, I just think it’s funny, since Basil probably discounted Sunny due to him blatantly looking at everyone’s hands.
4. This is the only memory in Memory Lane in which the player has control of Sunny that does not include a reference to Sunny’s crush on Aubrey. You of course have the Rainy Day memory, where Basil calls out Sunny’s crush on Aubrey, but you also have Basil referring to Aubrey as cute in the Beach memory along with the implied moment on the way home, and then you once again have Sunny calling a sleeping Aubrey cute in the picnic memory.
Finally, on 9/9, Basil writes that Mari has been away from home until late due to taking cram classes to prepare for college. Chiefly, this entry also tells us that Sunny has been choosing to hang out with Basil more in the absence of Mari, which seems to have been going on for awhile, due to the phrasing that Basil uses. We even see this in the fact that the next (and last) day in the photo album is once again just Basil, Mari, and Sunny, along with Basil being the only one present on the day of the Incident, despite the fact that everyone is busy getting ready and even Sunny’s parents are seemingly not home.
Now I’m not saying you have to buy into all of this, and I’m definitely not saying that Sunny fully understands his feelings for Basil, if any exist in the first place. The setting of the game being a small religious community in the late 90′s United States would definitely not be conducive to that kind of interpretation. But I do think a lot of this information is worth considering. At the very least, there is evidence that Sunny opened up about the incident to Basil and not the others, which I think makes the fact that years later, Sunny dives in after Basil whether he wants to or not all the sweeter.
(edit: took out a lot of irrelevant stuff from the conclusion that I felt didn’t need to be there.)
If you’ve taken the time to read this post, thanks! I don’t see myself posting all that much, to be honest, I just really wanted to get this analysis out there. I’d like to leave off this post with a detail from another Black Space Area that didn’t quite fit in the main analysis.
“Back then... I wanted to save what was left. But even after everything... you left me, Sunny...
I waited so long for you to come back.
Even seeing you now... It’s hard to think straight. I can feel my heart hurting and I want to cover my face and hide.
There are so many things I want to say to you... but the words won’t come out.
I just... I waited so long for you to come back, Sunny... but... you never did.”
- Stranger, Fishbowl Area
BGM: 143 - White Pillars
#omori#omori analysis#omori sunny#omori basil#omori sunflower#sunnflower#sunflower omori#black space#little bit of music analysis#but not like the music itself#omori spoilers#i hope this also clears up why kel tells sunny to dive in after basil and never acknowledges that that was a bad thing to do afterwards#kel just didn't know about the fear of drowning
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Animation based on this gorgeous animatic that I kept rewatching for 2 months (and finally gave up) made by @wolfythewitch
#animation tag#I had no idea about the epic story#I did know plenty about it only because of the animatic artists and some others#But I dearly love the music itself creators behind it and all fan content that goes beyond imagination#epic the musical#I couldn't calm down before finish it and even then forgot to add some “shiny” on gold parts but bahhh#my hand is already burning too hard from this week#I keep rewatching some epic animatics like crazy#I keep rewatching a lot of animatics like crazy actually#I wish I had 10 clones of myself to animate them all
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REPLICA PLAYLIST
MUSIC UNDER CUT
I have been receiving requests for any songs that inspired Replica, so here, have my personal playlist. Sorry it’s not Spotify/Soundcloud but they don’t have some of these songs available so uh… guess you’re stuck with YouTube vids. For fun I'll include my personal titles for them (which might give a few hints of what to expect in the future/end).
Replica Main Theme - “Die for You” by Grabbitz Like Father Like Son Like Brother (Omega and Shelldon) - "As Above So Below" by Alistair Lindsay Mikey's Theme / The 1st Vision - "Suzume no Tojimari" by Nanoka Hara Military (Mad) Dogs / Central Park Colony - "Imperium" by Madeon Shanghai - "Icarus" by Madeon Boom Goes the Donnie-mite (Mikey/Donnie vs the Sweeper) - "The Red Zone" by Mitsuoto Suzuki The Day the Sky Bled Red - "7 Seconds Till the End" by Nobuo Uematsu Going Out Like a Boss (Raph and Leo) - "Agape" by Nicholas Britell Remembering the Right Way (Mikey and Leo) - "The Souls of Many" - by Alistair Lindsay Mystic Hands / The 2nd Vision - "Am I Dreaming" by Metro Boomin x A$AP Book 2 Trailer - "Sea Dragon" by Covet 7 Years Later - "Iron" by Woodkid Leo's Theme / Attack on the Labor Camp - "Ego Death" by Polyphia Omega's Theme - "Touch" by Daft Punk Flat Lines (Omega Alone) - "Die Toteninsel Emptiness" by 1000 Eyes Spear - "Monsters" by Tommee Profitt Final Protocol - "The Kraken" by Katie Dey Rise / Epilogue - "Close in the Distance" by Masayoshi Soken & Tom Mills
I will admit, it's a little embarrassing since you can easily see the patterns of what I've been listening to for the past year or two. I swear I listen to more than just videogame OSTs, these songs just jive well with the story and I often find lyrics distracting when brainstorming scenes. Regardless, the music I listen to is such an important part of my creative process and some of these songs really defined the scenes I now have locked in my head. So I figured it was only fair to give them the credit they're due.
I will continue to add to this playlist, and will note in comic updates when one of these songs is applicable!
#lofi Donnie anyone?#also sort of celebration for 19k followers wow#should I do something else for it?#I particularly like Leo's theme being titled Ego Death#very fitting#Also the final song makes me cry because the lyrics are just too dang perfect#I'd like to do an animatic with the song when this story is all done#check out the lyrics if you get the chance#in fact I'd like to do an animatic trailer for the Book 2 Teaser#we'll see though#i can't allow myself to get too distracted from the comic itself haha#replica#rottmnt replica#kathaynesart#playlist#music#spoilers? but like... you know how it ends in the movie so not really?#kind of?#did you see the rise movie?#then you’ve been spoiled sorry#posting again at an ungodly hour#I am tired#save rottmnt#rottmnt#TMNT#Donatello#casey jones
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i flew too high, please catch my fall
#trigun#vash the stampede#nicholas d wolfwood#vashwood#tsunosagun art#i struggled with this so bad omg but i like the ideas behind it#took inspo from solar flares for vash and used andean condor wings for ww#the pose isnt exact but the hand on the back.. u already know what scene i was thinking of#edit: added link to the song i took partial inspo from cuz why the hell didnt i do that in the first place tbh#i will say the inspo was mostly the lyrics and that the music itself isnt the vibe i was going for#side note i can see vash as icarus as well (see: icarus by bastille)#(and the idea of an ambition that will kill you wrt to his promise to rem and how his decision to break it is like falling to earth etc)#which makes me go oughhHGHHH
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Take to the skies
...and fly free
#trigun#trimax#trigun maximum#nicholas d. wolfwood#vash the stampede#wolfwood centric#raepliica_art#wolfwood birdliker is smth so personal to me#his fascination for their ability to move freely and unchained.... his desire to fly away from his burden and fears...#🧎#guys he's fine!!! he's with his bird friends now!!!👍👍#i was listening to 生きる懐かしさ from guile by Oblique Occasions and this idea descended upon me like a meteorite#🧍<- guy who looped that 4 min music track during the whole drafting process#i have so much to say but im terrible at putting my thoughts into words so I'll let this comic speak for itself. hopefully.
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You must absolutely hate me for what I did to you
#my art#revolutionary girl utena#rgu#juri arisugawa#shiori takatsuki#juriori#Guess who's been listening to Juri's songs from the utena musical way too many times lately 🧡#I had this sketched out since the first time I watched this scene in the black rose arc all the way back like june last year#it did something to me#the strong shadows and oranges and of course the characters and conflict in on itself it clawed at me and I immediately had to draw about i#she's an orange lesbian..... just like meee...#toxic yuri#my favorite
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currently obsessing over this musical these two make me INSANE!!
#like look at them#are they not the best ever#cinderellas castle#cinderellas castle spoilers#kinda sorta???#starkid#team starkid#starkid fanart#this musical has implanted itself into my brain#everyone say thank you starkid#crumb#sir hop a lot#art#fanart#digital art#illustration#cc spoilers
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Goddess of Wisdom *music*
#My Athena design is meant to look human but not quite#Like a great power is trying to mold itself into a human#but something makes it look off. Too powerful. Too perfect. The body strange and not really to human proportions#Also can you tell I don’t know how to draw owls#🦉#athena#epic the musical#the odyssey#tagamemnon#greek gods#pjo#odyseussy#odysseus
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nostalgia slapped me upside the head a little while ago so i had to draw my favorite dudes ft. the gecko effect
#wild kratts#chris kratt#martin kratt#okay the tokay :)#all my rat#i was gonna do more but i got distracted with another project (fish) so this one's going up by itself.. i wanna draw some cps soon tho#i was obsessed with wk as a kid#i reeeaaallllyyy wanted a creature power suit i even wished for one for christmas one year#this shit was the original formative media for me#it was the source of all of my concentrated righteous indignation about animals that i kinda never grew out of#anyways wild kratts is like really good#realistic (not sensationalized!!!!) depictions of animals‚ fun characters and plots‚ great animation‚ banging music‚ like it's STACKED#ive been rewatching it recently because why not and i keep getting excited when i see animals i really like#you know there's a cannon FLOUNDER power suit???!! that's a fucking dream come true for me i love that so much#daphnia keep making cameos in a lot of the ocean episodes and every time i point at the screen and go DAPHNIA like a 5 year old#i'm just happy my favorite microorganism is getting some screentime
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Okay, let's finally talk about EPIC's Apollo
I feel very compelled to say, first of all, that I do not dislike Epic. In fact, I am very fond of Epic and have been following its production and status very eagerly! I attend all the launch streams, I watch all of Herrans' update videos; I am, at the end of the day, a fan and I want it to be known that my words are spoken out of love and passion as much as they are spoken from a place of critique.
So really, what my problem with Epic's Apollo?
In the briefest possible terms; the choice to have Apollo be defined by his musical aspect in God Games is thematically strange. And not in the 'oh well in the Odyssey, Apollo was important to Odysseus and his family so it's weird that that wasn't kept in Epic' strange, strange in the sense that Odysseus' character arc since My Goodbye has been getting more and more obviously Apollonian and so it is positively bizarre that when we get to meet Apollo, the god seems entirely disinterested in him and his affairs. So much so that he is not even defined by any station that would indicate that he has been watching over and protecting Odysseus and his family.
What do I mean by 'Odysseus has been following an Apollonian arc'? I'm so glad you asked!
Remember Them is the last song in which Odysseus explicitly uses his sword until Mutiny where he must use it to defend himself against Eurylochus' blade. He uses it to help enact the plan to conquer Polyphemus and, due to Polites dying in that battle, Polites who wished for Odysseus to put the blade down entirely and embrace a post-war life, Odysseus also retires his sword. This is an action that symbolically separates him from Athena - and the image of Odysseus as a traditional warrior set for him in Horse and Infant - as much as My Goodbye physically separates him from the goddess and her war-ways - from this point onwards, Odysseus will no longer be leaning on Athena's wisdom or methods to solve his problems. Likewise, he will no longer be able to rely on her protection.
Odysseus thusly solves most of his upcoming problems through diplomacy and avoidance. He approaches Aeolus - a strange and ambiguous god (both in gender and in motivation) and appeals to them for help. Circe too, he approaches not with wishes to conquer or for revenge, but for the safe returning of his men and an alternate way forward. In all of these scenarios, there is some Apollonian element which is subtly interweaved alongside the influence of other gods; it is with a bow and arrows that Polyphemus' sheep is slain (and thus it is this Apollonian element which is at the root of Odysseus' spat with Poseidon), it is a vision of Penelope that warns Odysseus that his men are about to open Aeolus' wind-bag, Circe's peace offering to Odysseus is to refer him to a prophet of Apollo who has since died.
In this way, Apollo is walking alongside Odysseus for all of his journey after Athena departs - even in the Underworld, he is guiding him. It is Tiresias' proclamation that is the last straw for Odysseus, it is by the power of a mouthpiece of Apollo that Odysseus decides to embrace his ruthlessness. It is with the bow and arrow that Odysseus subdues the siren who sought to trick him, likewise, Odysseus does not attempt to undermine or escape the fate of paying Scylla's passage price - he knows of the doom about to befall the six men and quite unlike the rest of the journey until this point, he does not fight against it. This all comes to a head on Thrinacia where it is a blade which sacrifices the sun god's cow and brings destruction upon the crew once more.
My point with all of this is that when I heard the teasers for God Games years ago, it made perfect sense to me that Apollo would be Round One - he is not Odysseus' adversary and has no reason to oppose Athena's wish to free him. From other teasers about what will happen in the climax of Epic, Apollo will still be walking alongside Odysseus - it is Apollo's bow that Penelope will give the suitors to string. Likewise, it is Apollo's bow that will prove Odysseus' legitimacy and identity. That bow will be the power by which Odysseus hunts his adversaries and cleans out his palace - it is Apollo who is the avatar of Odysseus' ruthlessness, not Athena.
So tell me, truly, what was the point of having Apollo raise a non-argument in God Games? Why have him appear unconcerned, aloof and slightly oblivious? Why have him appear in his capacity as the Lord of Music at all?? And if the intention was never to make Apollo an active player in Odysseus' life like he was in the Odyssey, why keep Odysseus as a primary archer?
The answer of course is that Apollo is inextricable from the fabric of the Odyssey - his influence and favour exudes from Odysseus just as much as Athena's. In Athena's ten year sulk, it would have been Apollo who kept Telemachus and Penelope safe. It would have been Apollo protecting Odysseus from Poseidon's gaze as he travelled the seas (according to the Odyssey anyway)
Forgive me for not being excited about something that I thought was being purposefully set up. I was extremely ecstatic about all of the little Apollonian details that litter the sagas because I know where this story ends up (loosely) but all God Games did was reveal that maybe those Apollonian details were not intentional at all, but merely the ghost of the Apollo who persistently haunts those he favours, even if he cannot explicitly come to their aide in an adaptation.
#ginger rambles#apollo#odysseus#epic the musical#athena#This of course is not mentioning the whole 'in the Odyssey the suitors have been explicitly praying#for Apollo to kill Telemachus so they can have free reign and Apollo is just going 'what's that? I'm sorry I can't hear haters' thing#I'm actually so disappointed by Apollo in God Games because I truly did believe that it was leading up to Apollo and Athena#BOTH being by Odysseus' side in the end#I really like the fandom view that Apollo used the sirens as an excuse because he has nothing against Odysseus#but in order for me to give that any merit there would have needed to be something in the text itself to support that#And Apollo only has the three-four lines which like - in and of itself is crazy#I really wish Apollo and Hephaestus had full verses like Aphrodite/Ares#Or at least a back and forth like Hera#The milquetoast Apollo who is apparently upset about murder but then only took a light rebut for him back down#I'm sorry have you not seen Apollo when he's mad about murder before? He's not that reasonable I promise you#I'm just not going to talk about him being mad about the sirens specifically if I think about that too long I'll get hives#Looking very forward to when Penelope finally gets her song 😭😭😭#Cannot believe you still don't have your song debut my queen the Odysseus economy is also in shambles
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“Haven’t You Noticed (I’m a Star)” from Steven Universe works so ridiculously well for Leo
#rottmnt#rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles#rottmnt headcanons#rottmnt leo#rise leo#listen it’s morning now and I haven’t slept so bear with me for the sudden unwarranted lyric analysis haha#a lotttt of the lyrics work so well for him#not even just the overall theme the words just work great#first lyric is literally ‘I can’t help it if I make a scene’ which is one to one with ‘Leo’s makin a scene’ from the rottmnt opening like-#‘I’m turning heads and I’m stopping traffic’ -> Leo has not made it a secret that he values his looks a LOT#-not just his looks but also his ability to get people’s attention#‘when I pose they scream when I joke they laugh’ -> I feel like this speaks for itself#-posing and joking for the crowd and himself#‘I’ve got them dazzled like a stage magician’ -> works both with Leo’s canonical love of magicians and his aptitude with tricks in general#‘well everybody needs a friend and I’ve got you and you and you’ -> I just think it’d be cute to imagine his friends here just as his bros#‘I got you and you and you’ = ‘my brainy guy my smashing guy and eats peanut butter with his fingers guy’#‘haven’t you noticed that I’m a star?’ -> Leo loves attention and especially loves when his feats and efforts are acknowledged#+ he loves glam rock and sci-fi and being a champ and - listen he has a LOT of star symbolism with him#‘haven’t you noticed I made it this far’ - Leo is well aware of how dangerous situations get and thinks himself only a part of a whole#-so hey it’s notable that he’s survived this long yeah?#‘now everyone can see me burning’ -> self-sacrificing with his family bearing witness + all his star and flame symbolism in general#+ how attention naturally goes to him - including bad attention where his mistakes are highlighted and burn bright#also even the limo lyric-#obviously this boy has never and will never own a limo but one of his main secondary colors IS pink so even that#okay that one is just a joke but he would#(on that note though I think the other colors the boys gravitate to outside THEIR color are fun to notice)#I don’t actually know too much about Steven universe beyond the songs and some eps but I like the music#and this just came to my tired mind so here you go anyone who’s interested#may draw something with these lyrics dunno yet#it’s a good song in any case even though it’s super short
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some boygenius blinkies!
(made here & here)
#i made more but i can only post 30 at a time haha#also made some for their solo stuff but just doing this for now#you can have them/use them whatever u want!#boygenius music does not lend itself to the blinkie aesthetic like chappell roan's does lol i tried#boygenius#flashing tw#flashing gif#flashing warning#blinkies
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BANG!
#he should always look like the concept of musical theatre threw up on itself#every time i draw this dude i bring out the Little Lines idk why but! it is super fun#the joker#joker#jack napier#outletverse#dc#dc the joker#dc joker#batjokes#not explicitly shippy but hes def staring at batman from the stage#my art#artists on tumblr#weird fashion#dc art#batman#dc batman#batman art
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Lauryn Hill as Cyrus is such a good choice because like having a hip-hop legend and pioneer as the leader that everyone else looks up to and tries to model themselves after, it's just so thematically sound
#especially considering her impact on lins music and the hip hop genre itself#like she built the foundations that lins house is built on#warriors musical#lin manuel miranda#eisa davis#lauryn hill
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I wanted to make my own memory card so i scribbled a little skit leading up to the memory
And the card!
#teenage exocolonist#i was a teenage exocolonist#iwatex#marz#dys#sol#eudicot#aashi doodles#yeah the actual card itself looks messy but i got so lazy when i finally got to that part#heck i got lazy once i got the base colors down like i always do#one of these days ill actually shade things properly#if i really had the guts i would recreate the whole music video with sol playing the shitty recorder#i mean photophoner XD
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Watched the MLB movie and I just. I WANT to gush about it but the fact that Marinette’s regular voice actor and her singing voice actor sound SO different just took me out of it every time and left me feeling very disengaged;; At least Adrien’s singing voice kind of sounds like his speaking voice (and Gabriel’s is 👌 bc my king Keith Silverstein can actually sing and he can sing REALLY fucking well) but Marinette’s. The voices are COMPLETELY different and it threw me off every single time. Like obviously her singing voice is really good and I understand why they picked that person to do her songs but bro you could have at least TRIED to get someone that sounds similar to Cristina Vee. It drove me nuts every time she sang bc I was like “That is CLEARLY a different person entirely!!”
I’m realizing this might have been a dubbing issue but still 😭 I feel like I would have enjoyed the movie way more if it didn’t look like Marinette was lip syncing the entire time bc there was such a huge disconnect between her speaking and singing voice
#Also I can’t fucking believe they did that to my boy Plagg. They RUINED him#He did not deserve that#Miraculous Ladybug#MLB#MLB movie#ALSO. Also. Personally. I don’t think it needed to be a musical#Bc that was very jarring in itself I was not expecting it#Since Miraculous isn’t a musical normally anyway!!#They probably could have fit in a lot more plot and made the story flow better if they took out all the songs#And replaced them with actual character development and stuff.#Idk it just feels like they tried to make it like a Disney film. And it didn’t quite fit with the story#I WILL say tho the character models were top notch. Marinette with FRECKLES?? YES PLEASE#Anyway yeah lots of thoughts but I could not take it seriously bc of the awkward voice casting#It actually ruined a lot of the movie for me :’( Again it drove me nuts lmao#Shima speaks#Idk maybe I'll watch it in French next time. Maybe I'll like it better then lol
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