#but like. the blatant homophobia
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lunar-years · 8 months ago
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One day on the Bridgerton side of twitter has been so unbelievably rank and vile I almost miss Ted Lasso twitter
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midnightcatharsis · 2 months ago
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I've been kinda trying to ship meljayvik for a week and I'm officially giving up. I'm too weak for this shit. I've started shipping them for several reasons mostly: 1. I like all 3 characters 2. Meljayvik art is beautiful 3. the jokes about Jayce being in love with 2 magical beings are great 4. Jayce has a type 5. Many members of the arcane team have been open about shipping meljayvik 6. While I do believe there are not enough Mel-Viktor interactions, I believe the ship has big potential and I've stumbled upon several ideas for fics that I find charming as well as interesting. 7. Toks (Mel's VA) is a great, talented person, she makes me love Mel and crave more Mel content.
That being said, I'm giving up. Almost every single time I search through tags and Mel or M3ljay* (if you wonder why it's censored look at the end of the post) are mentioned alongside Viktor and Jayvik 95% of the content is just pure hate, insults, harassment, and vitriol. The hate comes from both ways of course and perhaps some m3ljay fans have encountered some from jayvik fans but, personally, I have seen much more hate directed at viktor and people shipping jayvik or even meljayvik. People say "don't erase and vilify Mel for jayvik" (which I agree with) only to in the same comment or post vilify Viktor and hate on him making sometimes ridiculous claims. Innocent jokes referencing what c.l. said, about how if Jayce sees Viktor as a brother then his relationship with Mel is also "sibling-coded" are treated as a war crime by some M3ljay fans even if you ship both. Joking about Mel's actress liking jayvik posts, shipping them or referencing her doing that in any way is a crime and any person who has ever dared to consider Jayce and Viktor as romantic, post any art or joke about jayvik (which also includes Mel's VA) is insulted, harassed, slandered and called "racist". Even shipping meljayvik is treated as an insult because "only m3ljay is ok"). And don't even let me start on Mel because she can only ever be perfect and anytime somebody dares to say that while she is not perfect she is still a complex, interesting character it's treated as hating on her... Saying that she is skilled in manipulation, politics, intrigues, schemes, and playing people is somehow an insult despite it being her job and despite her achieving so much while at such a young age on her own being a testimony to how good at it and skilled she is. Saying that she was on the council for many years and the council has done awful things to Zaun is not permitted. Mentioning that her relationship with Jayce, while real, started as her trying to use and manipulate him because he was an investment - which is even an important theme in the show and the reason why they have a falling out in s2 - is somehow a hate crime. A lot of these people don't even care about Mel and often say stuff suggesting that if she doesn't end with Jayce she is somehow useless and disposable while, in reality, she is a strong, independent, and complex character who has her own story and who would be interesting even if her break up with Jayce in s2 marked the definite end of their relationship (same for Viktor, except maybe having his own story because he and Jayce are intertwined in all universes in that regard). A lot of people are just using Mel (and Sky) to hide their ableism, homophobia, and sheer disgust for gay, bisexual and queer people... Perhaps there is also some hate and toxicity (that shouldn't be there) on the jayvik side of fandom towards M3ljay, but during my limited time as a new meljayvik shipper and looking through tags, I have not encountered people openly hating on Mel at all. Things that get labeled as "hate" are mostly people saying she was manipulative at the beginning (which yes, she was), is good at manipulation (again, she is, like every politician, and it doesn't even make her evil) or is not a saint; people comparing Viktor and Mel's scenes or using the m3ljay tag while also shipping meljayvik; occasionally people saying why they prefer jayvik while also being polite and not hating on Mel (which also happens in reverse)... But never open hate, insults, and harassment that the other side directs towards jayvik fans and viktor. (Screens below - most from tumblr cause I'm lazy, but there are much more of it on other platforms, and the comments are often even worse) I'm too weak to deal with all this toxicity and hate. I still kinda like the ship and the all the characters but I'm going back to jayvik only.
*(I'm censoring this so that m3ljay fans who probably don't want it in their tag won't have to interact with this post because I consider it basic human culture. Would be lovely if m3ljay fans who love to shit on jayvik in jayvik fans did the same for once)
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lights-at-night · 4 months ago
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i might be shot but tbh i think fiction podcasts have an issue with racial representation
#monstrous agonies n travelling light have allegory but allegory is still just allegory#mabel n wolf 359 r the only fucking podcasts ive seen in which where someone is from actually affects them#not to mention how many popular audio dramas are made by white people? might just be my experience idk#and they still seemingly have representation bc the fandom draws the characters as poc even if the actor isnt#which would be completely differentif it was tv or smthn#like ofc ppl can draw whatever they want but theres something to that disconnect that is strange to me#also the penumbra approach of actively avoiding race as a theme in the podcast#magnus in general?? they might be improving a little with protocol but i have not seen people addressing it a lot#and of course the cecil palmer effect#this is in large part due to the audio only medium#but its weird to see a medium praised for queer rep have race almost entirely ignored in favor of setting the world in somewhere w/o racism#maybe its bc so much is set in less irl settings so people feel like its more ok to distance themselves from these issues#but still?? for example hallowoods (havent finished it so dont come at me if this changed later in the podcast)#theres the blatant evangelical christianity allegory and all the transphobia n homophobia is dealt with but not white supremacy?#which seems lacking if its trying to criticize that particular sect of christianity#n malevs complete ignorance of lovecraft#and if youre going to set it in the 1920-1930s america why arent you dealing with the time period#just a rant i havent done deep research into this or anything. dont kill me#podcasts
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str8upspam · 2 months ago
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Dude why are genshin players lowkey the most homophobic + racist ppl I’ve ever seen
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justacrazylilguy · 1 year ago
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To The Metal Gear Fandom
Okay so silly question but i see a lot of yall on here and you say all the homoerotic stuff in mgs is canon right? Especially otasune, bbkaz, bosselot. Not to sound like a hater but the first game came out in 1998. You know what age hideo Kojima was back then? 36 with a wife and kids. So what's his real purpose for making a whole game series about a buncha gay guys? That's what leads me to believe it's unintentional but idk. If he said why then lmk cause I dont get why he would? I've been thinking about this a lot recently because I've been seeing a lot of people saying it's deliberate. Anyone can answer btw my askbox is open because i Need an explanation. More in tags cause im insane.
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cicelythereaper · 9 months ago
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mannnnnnn i never thought i'd miss the dark days of 2011 ff.net but at least back then the narnia evangelical christians(TM) had the decency to announce themselves via homophobic statements in their bios. now you see a suspiciously vague tag on ao3 and you have to do a whoooole detective routine
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bijoumikhawal · 6 months ago
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this isn't the pervasive problem people pretend it is to justify transmisogyny (especially because most of the time the person doing this is a cis man), but it is weird when you're in a "progressive" space and someone says something unironically effemiphobic because they think GNC men either don't actually exist or deserve to be insulted for doing Gender Bad which makes us inherently bad. Or both? Somehow?
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amphibifish · 7 months ago
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one of the craziest heimdall maloki moments i think abt sometimes are like when those lesbians committed joint suicide cause of him and he was like "see i did a good thing can i have my eye back now" and loki was like "wtf heimdall" like he didn't do jackshit in trying to stop it
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science-lings · 2 years ago
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okay so im actually reading the messages from this christian conservative lu server and these people are actually fucking vile 
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emotional-moss · 2 years ago
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i literally cant believe jk rowling tricked everyone into thinking she was a good character and world designer
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lab-trash · 2 years ago
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I've never been one for crossover fics, but I just...
When I first started watching Supernatural, I kept calling it Stranger Things, and having watched both of them, I still make that mistake.
So I need to see that. I especially need to see Dean and Eddie and what their dynamic would be like.
The only problem is, are we setting Supernatural in the 80s, or are we setting Stranger Things into current time
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flatstarcarcosa · 1 year ago
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actually now that i think about it so many of the one liners in the first predator movie that rewired my brain are also on the cusp of some of the most blatantly sexist/homophobic shit you've ever heard.
i often forget 'A GODDAMN SEXUAL TYRANNOSAURUS, LIKE ME' is on the heels of that same character calling everyone else a bunch of faggots lmao
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98gaybugs · 2 years ago
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Saw a twitter post of some tiktok video asking the “gay son or thot daughter” question and a couple ppl in the comments were like “why are they saying gay son like thats bad” man wait until i tell you about this thing called homophobia
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emofrog69 · 2 years ago
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religious trauma is real it quite literally gave me OCD lmfao
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butterscotch-brigade · 2 years ago
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when i was like 11-12 years old i used to love content where ppl would read and make fun of "bad" fanfics in the style of mystery science theater or whatever (a practice commonly known as "MST3King/MSTing" or "sporking") and one time i saw some ppl MSTing a gay pinky and the brain mpreg fanfiction and at one point during the fic brain calls pinky "my dear" and i disntinctly remember one of the commentators being like "you know, i have nothing against gay couples and i support gay marriage, but i think calling each other things like 'my dear' is a bit too much" and im somehow just NOW realizing how fucked up that whole entire mess of an ordeal was
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ceratedfish24 · 1 month ago
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I literally can’t make these kinds of derogatory jokes about myself because half my posts are “stop being homophobic/misogynistic in my fandom. This is a safe space for those who aren’t being mean to queer people for all the same reasons they love the straight people” posts. It would just take away from the credibility of what I feel is an important message.
you guys HAVE to take “is dumb” off the end of your username. you have to take “my shit rambles” out of your talking tag. you have to stop apologizing for existing. I get so sad for every url I see like “[name]’s-stupid-reblogs” and every blog I open with a title like “pointless posts” and every opinion post I see tagged something derogatory by op!! speaking as someone whose post tag used to be “makes bad posts.” stop actively putting up roadblocks for yourself!! why do we always say bullying is bad but never when we’re bullying ourselves
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