#but like. the blatant homophobia
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One day on the Bridgerton side of twitter has been so unbelievably rank and vile I almost miss Ted Lasso twitter
#I said ALMOST#!!!#but like. the blatant homophobia#fighting to the death over the book versions of characters who are blatantly bad people#ship wars but between entirely different unrelated ships from ppl who do not seem to understand the concept of the show#weird irl shipper territory#body shaming#blatantly calling characters they don’t like ugly ?#as using that as justification for certain seasons worse?#because they personally don’t find the characters as attractive as others?#throwing a hissy fit over like. the existence of all of 4 lgbtq people in Jane Austen roleplay regency era#saying queer women can’t want children WITH THEIR WHOLE CHESTS?#like godddd it’s unbelievably disgusting#I am going to quietly enjoy the first episode of part 2 tonight on my own#and never participate in that fandom ever 💚#Bridgerton
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I've been kinda trying to ship meljayvik for a week and I'm officially giving up. I'm too weak for this shit. I've started shipping them for several reasons mostly: 1. I like all 3 characters 2. Meljayvik art is beautiful 3. the jokes about Jayce being in love with 2 magical beings are great 4. Jayce has a type 5. Many members of the arcane team have been open about shipping meljayvik 6. While I do believe there are not enough Mel-Viktor interactions, I believe the ship has big potential and I've stumbled upon several ideas for fics that I find charming as well as interesting. 7. Toks (Mel's VA) is a great, talented person, she makes me love Mel and crave more Mel content.
That being said, I'm giving up. Almost every single time I search through tags and Mel or M3ljay* (if you wonder why it's censored look at the end of the post) are mentioned alongside Viktor and Jayvik 95% of the content is just pure hate, insults, harassment, and vitriol. The hate comes from both ways of course and perhaps some m3ljay fans have encountered some from jayvik fans but, personally, I have seen much more hate directed at viktor and people shipping jayvik or even meljayvik. People say "don't erase and vilify Mel for jayvik" (which I agree with) only to in the same comment or post vilify Viktor and hate on him making sometimes ridiculous claims. Innocent jokes referencing what c.l. said, about how if Jayce sees Viktor as a brother then his relationship with Mel is also "sibling-coded" are treated as a war crime by some M3ljay fans even if you ship both. Joking about Mel's actress liking jayvik posts, shipping them or referencing her doing that in any way is a crime and any person who has ever dared to consider Jayce and Viktor as romantic, post any art or joke about jayvik (which also includes Mel's VA) is insulted, harassed, slandered and called "racist". Even shipping meljayvik is treated as an insult because "only m3ljay is ok"). And don't even let me start on Mel because she can only ever be perfect and anytime somebody dares to say that while she is not perfect she is still a complex, interesting character it's treated as hating on her... Saying that she is skilled in manipulation, politics, intrigues, schemes, and playing people is somehow an insult despite it being her job and despite her achieving so much while at such a young age on her own being a testimony to how good at it and skilled she is. Saying that she was on the council for many years and the council has done awful things to Zaun is not permitted. Mentioning that her relationship with Jayce, while real, started as her trying to use and manipulate him because he was an investment - which is even an important theme in the show and the reason why they have a falling out in s2 - is somehow a hate crime. A lot of these people don't even care about Mel and often say stuff suggesting that if she doesn't end with Jayce she is somehow useless and disposable while, in reality, she is a strong, independent, and complex character who has her own story and who would be interesting even if her break up with Jayce in s2 marked the definite end of their relationship (same for Viktor, except maybe having his own story because he and Jayce are intertwined in all universes in that regard). A lot of people are just using Mel (and Sky) to hide their ableism, homophobia, and sheer disgust for gay, bisexual and queer people... Perhaps there is also some hate and toxicity (that shouldn't be there) on the jayvik side of fandom towards M3ljay, but during my limited time as a new meljayvik shipper and looking through tags, I have not encountered people openly hating on Mel at all. Things that get labeled as "hate" are mostly people saying she was manipulative at the beginning (which yes, she was), is good at manipulation (again, she is, like every politician, and it doesn't even make her evil) or is not a saint; people comparing Viktor and Mel's scenes or using the m3ljay tag while also shipping meljayvik; occasionally people saying why they prefer jayvik while also being polite and not hating on Mel (which also happens in reverse)... But never open hate, insults, and harassment that the other side directs towards jayvik fans and viktor. (Screens below - most from tumblr cause I'm lazy, but there are much more of it on other platforms, and the comments are often even worse) I'm too weak to deal with all this toxicity and hate. I still kinda like the ship and the all the characters but I'm going back to jayvik only.
*(I'm censoring this so that m3ljay fans who probably don't want it in their tag won't have to interact with this post because I consider it basic human culture. Would be lovely if m3ljay fans who love to shit on jayvik in jayvik fans did the same for once)
#jayvik#meljayvik#jayce talis#viktor arcane#shipping drama :P#I'm strongly temped to use that ship tag because they post most hate under jayvik or meljayvik but I won't lower my standards#why tf can't people even learn basic rules like not tagging blatant hate in the other fandom#but also not to insult or harass people who disagree with your ship#Should also tag M3l because there's literally nothing offensive to her and it's not a M3l hate but I won't even do that#I said what I said#too often people hide their raging ableism homophobia or biphobia behind M3l#If you somehow managed to still ship all three of them together for longer than several days you're stronger than me :/
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i might be shot but tbh i think fiction podcasts have an issue with racial representation
#monstrous agonies n travelling light have allegory but allegory is still just allegory#mabel n wolf 359 r the only fucking podcasts ive seen in which where someone is from actually affects them#not to mention how many popular audio dramas are made by white people? might just be my experience idk#and they still seemingly have representation bc the fandom draws the characters as poc even if the actor isnt#which would be completely differentif it was tv or smthn#like ofc ppl can draw whatever they want but theres something to that disconnect that is strange to me#also the penumbra approach of actively avoiding race as a theme in the podcast#magnus in general?? they might be improving a little with protocol but i have not seen people addressing it a lot#and of course the cecil palmer effect#this is in large part due to the audio only medium#but its weird to see a medium praised for queer rep have race almost entirely ignored in favor of setting the world in somewhere w/o racism#maybe its bc so much is set in less irl settings so people feel like its more ok to distance themselves from these issues#but still?? for example hallowoods (havent finished it so dont come at me if this changed later in the podcast)#theres the blatant evangelical christianity allegory and all the transphobia n homophobia is dealt with but not white supremacy?#which seems lacking if its trying to criticize that particular sect of christianity#n malevs complete ignorance of lovecraft#and if youre going to set it in the 1920-1930s america why arent you dealing with the time period#just a rant i havent done deep research into this or anything. dont kill me#podcasts
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Dude why are genshin players lowkey the most homophobic + racist ppl I’ve ever seen
#I keep hearing ppl complain about genshin players being too woke and heterophobic or something but it’s like totally the opposite#I haven’t seen such blatant racism + homophobia until I downloaded hoyolab#Like yall know that company has cannon lesbians right…?#Ik every fandom has rlly bad ppl but goddamn
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To The Metal Gear Fandom
Okay so silly question but i see a lot of yall on here and you say all the homoerotic stuff in mgs is canon right? Especially otasune, bbkaz, bosselot. Not to sound like a hater but the first game came out in 1998. You know what age hideo Kojima was back then? 36 with a wife and kids. So what's his real purpose for making a whole game series about a buncha gay guys? That's what leads me to believe it's unintentional but idk. If he said why then lmk cause I dont get why he would? I've been thinking about this a lot recently because I've been seeing a lot of people saying it's deliberate. Anyone can answer btw my askbox is open because i Need an explanation. More in tags cause im insane.
#mgs#Metal gear solid#solid snake#Otasune#Bosselot#Vkaz#Bbkaz#Don't come at me mad btw im literally a gay guy so it's not like I mind it ��#Its just I get confused when mgs is praised for like . rep? its not rep if it's ambiguous really..And like why would he even care#Enough to make it his lifes work when he's straight. Mayb closeted but its so weird to speculate on anothers sexuality 😭 I see people do it#Idkkkk im thinking the ppl that point out the blatant homophobia have it right. Only villains being explicitly queer and raikov well. exist#My friend says the beach date w kaz is mocking his admiration like Ooh hoooo someone has a big ol crush on Big Boss. Ocelot too#Hes also gay btw but neither of us could come with a good reason other than hes closeted but that seems unlikely. Infact he said so I think#It makes more sense in my mind that Kojima accidentally made the gayest series ever. He's an ally though thanks Kojima 👍
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mannnnnnn i never thought i'd miss the dark days of 2011 ff.net but at least back then the narnia evangelical christians(TM) had the decency to announce themselves via homophobic statements in their bios. now you see a suspiciously vague tag on ao3 and you have to do a whoooole detective routine
#cicely speaks#this is a vent post to be clear#digging through someone's blog like. i'm in the Bad Take Mines and brother i am hitting paydirt#you know i used to complain about the blatant homophobia but i really do kind of miss it. it is of course great progress#that they can no longer say this stuff on a public website without it being An Embarrassment#but apparently they can say stuff like 'genocide is a meaningless concept if you don't believe in god' which is uh. Worse!#so all in all i miss the homophobia. it was a great Bad Take Mines canary#truly trawling the narnia tag as a heretical catholic is a job for god's strongest soldiers [salutes]
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this isn't the pervasive problem people pretend it is to justify transmisogyny (especially because most of the time the person doing this is a cis man), but it is weird when you're in a "progressive" space and someone says something unironically effemiphobic because they think GNC men either don't actually exist or deserve to be insulted for doing Gender Bad which makes us inherently bad. Or both? Somehow?
#cipher talk#Like there's a specific kind of cis gender conforming queer man dying to tell you he thinks a gay man wearing a skirt is like.#The worst homophobia ever and personally destroying his life#Or whining about how people assume effeminates are LGBT and how we should consider how unfair that is to straight men#(Ignoring that if someone is openly effeminate they either are queer or don't care if they're assumed to be. Because of how social violence#Functions under patriarchy... amd how those things being linked arent the responsibility of queer people)#Complete and utter fear of being associated with fags and women on that front#The other group that does this is trans people of all kinds who are Uncomfortable with people they consider Weird#Trans men who draw those comics about guys who don't bind and have colored hair are a blatant example#But a lot of people do that but are more subtle about it and present it progressively enough to get away with it#Also egg jokes aren't effemiphobic imo unless you think being called a woman- or more specifically a trans woman- is an insult itself#As are any other similar comments
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one of the craziest heimdall maloki moments i think abt sometimes are like when those lesbians committed joint suicide cause of him and he was like "see i did a good thing can i have my eye back now" and loki was like "wtf heimdall" like he didn't do jackshit in trying to stop it
#fish.txt#gays have never been buried harder than this chapter#maloki#the blatant homophobia here combined with the only other queer rep being vali who was like a freak abt heim is really awesome and epic hefe#love that for you kinoshita (i hate it here)
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okay so im actually reading the messages from this christian conservative lu server and these people are actually fucking vile
#it's not just homophobia and transphobia but blatant racism and misogyny#like these people are nasty#im so glad we can call them out and block them instead of just letting them hide in the walls
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i literally cant believe jk rowling tricked everyone into thinking she was a good character and world designer
#none of it made sense?#apart from the blatant racism misogyny homophobia etc#like#just cause she was the first person to have the idea#of modern wizardry#doesnt mean it’s good#that is if she even was the first person#emo moss talks#jk rowling slander
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I've never been one for crossover fics, but I just...
When I first started watching Supernatural, I kept calling it Stranger Things, and having watched both of them, I still make that mistake.
So I need to see that. I especially need to see Dean and Eddie and what their dynamic would be like.
The only problem is, are we setting Supernatural in the 80s, or are we setting Stranger Things into current time
#supernatural#stranger things#dean winchester#eddie munson#destiel#steddie#crossover#like they like the same music#and eddie is pretty fuckin metal#but also eddie is a blatant flirt#to men#and deans got that patented interalised homophobia#oh also cas#i need to see cas getting on with these people#i think he and robin would get along#is that weird?#sammy and the party just riffing#and like tfw meeting el#what would that shit be like
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i reread some fic recently that i wrote for harry potter in like, 2012????
i think whats really striking is just how much of jkrs prejudices and biases bled into my work because I was emulating her style. her style is marked by fatphobia, underhanded ableism, barely-examined prejudice against people of other races and backgrounds. and fatphobia. fatphobia, so much fatphobia. and like this is kind of standard for a centrist brit in the 90s but if anything it just shows that its really high time ppl let go of her work and stop bringing her back to relevance. especially with the whole new game being basically an antisemitic slaughterfest thing. this woman has not felt the need to examine her views and prejudices since like 1992 and it fucking shows
#harry potter#jk rowling#antisemitism#fatphobia#ableism#racism#the fatphobia is the worst btw#you can say plausible deniability about the racism and ableism and even the homophobia and antisemitism. to a point#but the fatphobia is blatant and disgusting on basically every page. at every point JKR equates thinness to goodness and virtue#something which I unthinkingly adapted into my fanworks because I had barely examined my own fatphobia at that point#i just think its striking#just how fucking blatant it is#the fact that i felt the need to write fatphobia into my fanfic because it is SUCH a hallmark of her entire style#anyway the screencaps of her writing a polish character have been going round and i have to say i am super not surprised#shes always written like this it's barely concealed in hp#if she sees a chance to get some bigotry and stereotypes in there??? she absolutely fucking will#and that is much more of a reason to make her irrelevant#than any individual missteps or transphobia on twitter
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that moment you're watching a video and they throw in a ship you dislike (even though you read all warnings in the video itself and in the description and no ships were listed so you assumed it was a 'no ships' video) and you go to the comments to leave a nice comment about the quality anyways (and suggest for the creator to leave a note in their description in the future when their videos have ships) only to find people bashing on the ship you DO like for literally no fucking reason
#*stares into camera*#deep sigh#im so fucking done with this shit man#like#how the hell am i supposed to enjoy anything remotely izuocha related when a huge majority of izuocha fans bash on others for no reason#not to mention the blatant homophobia#“why can't characters be straight anymore”#get the fuck out of here susan you have every other anime/manga in existence to indulge in straight ships#fuck yourself to hell#rant#ramble#mha fandom problems#fandom problms#will i delete this later? who knows#its a good thing i've never gotten anons or assholes in my asks after i critisize the toxic izuochas for how they treat other ships#mizismiz
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actually now that i think about it so many of the one liners in the first predator movie that rewired my brain are also on the cusp of some of the most blatantly sexist/homophobic shit you've ever heard.
i often forget 'A GODDAMN SEXUAL TYRANNOSAURUS, LIKE ME' is on the heels of that same character calling everyone else a bunch of faggots lmao
#txt.txt#slurs tw#it's okay though i forgive jesse ventura because he also went ape on jericovid's podcast about how he would have straight up#murdered the jan 6th insurgents so like. we stan a problematic king.#also fwiw again: i think some of this shit is so over the top bc thats like. part of the point.#i can't take any of it seriously as being offensive because it feels intentionally satirical. even other action films of the era weren't#so blatant with it. ymmv of course just because i chose to view it this way doesn't mean everyone does#the reese really said 'a little homophobia is a small price to pay for alien cheeks'
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im rewatching 2gther and forgot drakefrank were in in the show lol and milk, film, view, gigie and khaotung as well??? guess since it was the first thai show i saw i didn't recognise any of the side characters but oh this show takes me back to when i first discovered QL (thanks to tumblr, which i had joined because of skam, which is also responsible for me discovering AO3 lmao, 2020 was a different time) and look how unhinged i am now
#2gether#i didn't like tine as much back then but i get the appeal now he's kinda cute#if we ignore some blatant misogyny and homophobia this show is kinda nice#i remember watching like ¼th of it normally and the rest of it on 2x because i can't not finish a show i start ksskks#and it took me another few months to properly get into the genre but 2gether was kinda like my gateway isn't it#and now that im used to the genre I'm kinda enjoying watching it EVEN AT NORMAL SPEED hehe#i miss drakefrank they were too cute even in that other show they were in as teemork#where IS frank now though has he left GMMTV?#and the true disservice of this show was to the ladies esp EarnPear#also why did green get back with dim when he said dim hit him was he lying or am I missing smth????#also mil was full on an asshole wasn't he#but sarawat is SO dear to me i love him#vi.txt
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What the fuck is wrong with these idiots in Indian pride parades trying to sacrilege and queercode Hindu objects of devotion every fucking year? I had worked sooo fucking hard trying to turn my mother be less homophobic but then these sad broken condoms made the headlines and all my hardwork hit the fucking gutter. Its like they want to make it tougher for us in the closet🤦🏻♀️
#Like stay tf away from religion if you don’t believe#What do you think this blatant disregard will bring?#You’re just fueling their excuses for homophobia
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